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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, It's Jason Gibbs from Cleveland Browns Daily and

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Speaker 1: the University Hospital's Cleveland Browns Radio Network. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: post some audio in honor of our great friend and

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Browns, Jim Donovan from our pregame

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Speaker 1: show on Sunday morning before the Browns took down the

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Speaker 1: Ravens with the help in our eyes of the great

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Speaker 1: Jim Donovan from up above. We wanted to play some

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Speaker 1: of the pregame interviews because obviously the news came out

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Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoon. Sunday was the first chance for people

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Speaker 1: to really react, and as a broadcast family and the

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Speaker 1: Browns family, we wanted to honor him the best way possible,

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Speaker 1: and we had friends from all over the broadcast world

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Speaker 1: Famer to join us to reflect and honor the legacy

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Speaker 1: of Jim Donovan. First up, it's the head coach of

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Speaker 1: your Cleveland Browns, Kevin Stefanski. He wanted this win for

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Speaker 1: so many reasons, but the number one reason was to

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Speaker 1: be able to present Jim's family with that game ball,

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Speaker 1: which he and Andrew Berry did on Sunday night. Kevin

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Speaker 1: sat down with us once the news broke on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Here's that interview.

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Speaker 3: Well, Coach, you know, we lost a friend in an

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Speaker 3: icon and an institution in this community into this organization,

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Speaker 3: and Jim Donovan, I.

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Speaker 4: Know that you and he became very close.

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Speaker 3: You know, how can you kind of put into words

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Speaker 3: to this team in the city, this region and the

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think I can. I think that's too

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Speaker 5: hard to do.

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Speaker 2: Jim.

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Speaker 5: He will be missed. You know, it's a somber day,

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Speaker 5: and obviously I'm thinking about Jim. I'm thinking about his family.

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Speaker 5: I also, you know, I need to count myself among

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Speaker 5: the lucky ones to have known him and his spirit

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Speaker 5: the energy and the love that came from this man.

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Speaker 5: Like I am truly blessed. I'm honored to have known him.

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Speaker 5: I'm honored to have called him a friend, and and

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Speaker 5: we'll remember him throughout this season. We'll remember him, you know,

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Speaker 5: throughout all time, just for what he meant to this

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Speaker 3: Did you have a favorite moment or a favorite cat

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Speaker 3: or something as you look back on something that Jim

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Speaker 3: did in your tenure here.

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Speaker 2: I love them all.

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Speaker 5: I'm serious, I love them all. And as a I

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Speaker 5: used to do this as a young kid growing up

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Speaker 5: a fan of the Eagles, I couldn't wait to hear

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Speaker 5: Meryl Reese's call. You know, you watch it on TV

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Speaker 5: and then with the game's over, it's okay, I can't

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 5: It's the same thing with Jim and our fan base.

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Speaker 5: They could not wait. If you weren't listening on the radio,

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Speaker 5: the background. Whether you're in the car, you're at home

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Speaker 5: So I know that there's so many memories of this

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Speaker 3: I think that you know, for me, you think about

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Speaker 3: COVID and he gives what I considered to be the

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Speaker 4: All of you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously the not irony, but the sad truth

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Speaker 3: in recent memory, and getting to him say, you know,

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Speaker 4: Like looking back on it wasn't unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable, you know. I got to again blessed just to

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Speaker 5: And then in moments like those, special moments as fans

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Speaker 5: his voice throughout all that. Again, he'll be missed, but

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Speaker 4: He most certainly will not.

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Speaker 3: And one thing I know that I will always cherish,

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Speaker 5: It was, and I can remember, just having done many

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Speaker 3: When you think about last year, he comes back, he

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Speaker 3: and that is another one of those kind of iconic

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Speaker 3: And I know that your folks on the game, and

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Speaker 5: Well, it is, And just going back to that Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: and that's what we'll talk about to this team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that fight and I remember I think it was

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Speaker 4: Another just incredible moment.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that fight, and that is in many ways,

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Speaker 3: the hard work, the determination, and you know, you think

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this or not.

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Speaker 3: I didn't, and he would send those tapes to the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I count myself again, I get to

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Speaker 3: And we do play a game against the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 3: It's got to be a desperate team going against a

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Speaker 3: You know why it will be back and that's got

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Speaker 5: But it's all part of it when you're dealing with injuries,

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Speaker 5: your best five out there.

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Speaker 3: Jim Donovan and Nick Chubb so many iconic Nick Chubb calls.

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Speaker 3: Nick makes his return last week, we talked about that

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh game. Jim hits the guitar, Nick comes out and

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Speaker 4: I feel like we'll get a call from them.

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Speaker 5: Nick is emblematic and in a lot of ways of

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Speaker 1: Up next on Brown's Game Day. It was another great

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Speaker 9: if I'm not mistaken. I think he told me. I

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Speaker 9: may be wrong on this, and maybe it's because that's

441
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Speaker 9: early in the morning or in Vegas and I just

442
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 9: woke up. Did he not go to school with Howard sterned?

443
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Speaker 9: Or am I just dreaming that up? I think I

444
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 9: think I think he may have gone. I think he

445
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 9: may have gone to school with how Anyway, this guy

446
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 9: was a legend in the business, with the delivery that

447
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 9: was second to none, and a personality and a warmth

448
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 9: to him that you'll remember for the rest of your life.

449
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Speaker 8: Well, Kevin, I believe you are co wrecking your assessment

450
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Speaker 8: because I recall him telling the story of how he

451
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 8: had an internship where he did some type of work

452
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Speaker 8: with Howard at a radio stime.

453
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Speaker 9: I thought, so, yeah, I thought there was I knew

454
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Speaker 9: there was some connection in there, and I couldn't figure

455
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Speaker 9: out where it was. But anyway, I said, I passed

456
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Speaker 9: that their football the end of the brother Boston University the

457
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 9: other day and thought of Jim because I knew he

458
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 9: went there when he got to NBC, and I was

459
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 9: we're about four yards four years apart, five years apart

460
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 9: in age. I said, man, that guy is young to

461
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 9: be an NBC doing NFL games on network television. So

462
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 9: I and I always remember that that one facet about him,

463
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 9: that he went to Boston University. When I brought it

464
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,239
Speaker 9: up to him one time, I think he mentioned, Now

465
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 9: it's sort anyway, I'm getting off tangent, but it's it's

466
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 9: a day that that Cleveland fans, sports fans, people in

467
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 9: the community had been dreading and and and I just

468
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Speaker 9: I can tell you as one person in the business

469
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Speaker 9: that crossed his paths and had incredible, ultimate, unlimited respect

470
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Speaker 9: for his ability. It is a It is a tremendous,

471
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Speaker 9: tremendous loss, It certainly is.

472
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Speaker 8: And at the same time, as we honor his memory,

473
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Speaker 8: I appreciate your work ethic and what you do NBA, NFL,

474
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Speaker 8: and Jim was on that same level work ethic and

475
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Speaker 8: that he did a local TV radio shows filling in

476
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 8: and he also hosted shows as well as being the

477
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Speaker 8: voice of the Cleveland Browns. Can you just talk to

478
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Speaker 8: our listeners about the level of preparation that goes into

479
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Speaker 8: that to do what he did as such a as

480
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Speaker 8: well as you at such a tremendously high.

481
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Speaker 9: Level, Well, you're I appreciate your kind of where Jim

482
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 9: was was almost beyond what what any of us did

483
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Speaker 9: and do because he just, I mean, this was his

484
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 9: life and and he his attention to detail was always paramount.

485
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Speaker 9: And uh, when you do NFL Network games, you it's

486
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 9: it's a seven day a week job, like I'll be

487
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 9: working today, right up until kickoff. That's the way Jim worked.

488
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 9: He worked whether it was doing the Browns or back

489
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Speaker 9: in the day with NBC, he would work right up

490
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Speaker 9: until kickoff with his notes, and he would stop by

491
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Speaker 9: our booths. And I used to work with Len Dawson

492
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 9: he passed a couple of years ago when I was

493
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Speaker 9: doing and the Chiefs games, and Jim would always come

494
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 9: in and say hello, and he always asked Lenny. I

495
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 9: remember this specifically because Leon had worked for NBC as well,

496
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Speaker 9: so I think they had something in common. In fact,

497
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Speaker 9: I don't know if they even worked together. They may have,

498
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 9: they may have done a game or two together. But

499
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Speaker 9: my point is that they always went to lend for

500
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Speaker 9: just you know, a couple extra thoughts, notes he could

501
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 9: put on his boards about the Chiefs when he would

502
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 9: do a Chiefs game that afternoon. That always stuck with

503
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 9: me too. I mean, the guy was prepared.

504
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Speaker 7: He was.

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Speaker 9: He was, you know, such a wonderful delivery, and a

506
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 9: lot of guys, you know, it can get by with

507
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 9: just voice and delivery and passion and all that stuff.

508
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 9: But what he gave to it is he gave the

509
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 9: information you needed with that great presentation, and that always

510
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 9: made it wonderful. And then when you listen to a

511
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 9: Browns game, not only was he doing, you know, covering

512
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 9: them on TV and broadcasting the games on radio, but

513
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 9: when when you're the voice of a team, you know,

514
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 9: you become the unequivocal, unquestioned source about what's going on,

515
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 9: and that takes a whole other level of preparation, and

516
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 9: he certainly gave it every ounce that he had into

517
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 9: that made sure that Brown's fans knew that they when

518
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 9: they turned on the radio and heard that voice, or

519
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 9: turned on the TV and some one of his sportscasts,

520
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 9: they knew that he knew what was going on, and

521
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 9: they didn't really have to go anyplace else. I'm sure

522
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 9: Tony and Mary Kay could say the same things to

523
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 9: legends in the business on that side of the media line,

524
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 9: but in the broadcasting realm, if there was a comparable,

525
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 9: you know, Tony or Mary Kay. It was certainly jim

526
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 9: and just his attend Jimmy had an attention to detail

527
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Speaker 9: that we all envied.

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Speaker 6: Kevin, can you share with us because you've been able

529
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Speaker 6: to break through and really reach the viewer, reached the

530
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Speaker 6: listener on Westwood One.

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Speaker 2: How are people?

532
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Speaker 6: How did a guy like jim how was he able

533
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Speaker 6: to do it? How are you guys able to do that?

534
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Speaker 6: Is it something that takes time or is it something

535
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Speaker 6: that there's a realness to it, studying people, being with

536
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 6: people and not just call a game and seeing them

537
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 6: as they are objects on the field.

538
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 9: Well, well, I'll never remember talking about this particular aspect.

539
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 9: I know that this is something that he embraced, and

540
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 9: that was when you when you lose yourself in the game,

541
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 9: and your and your focus and your concentration is is

542
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 9: such that that you don't hear the noise, you don't

543
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 9: get distracted by anything at all. You're so immersed and

544
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 9: you're so lost in the game you're broadcasting that that

545
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 9: quick twitch response always comes through because you're not playing

546
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 9: from behind, like you're not trying to catch up in

547
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 9: the play. You're you're staying as a broadcaster ahead of

548
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 9: the play. He did it wonderfully. Jim did he He

549
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 9: always stayed ahead of the place, so he was never

550
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 9: caught off guard. And when things would come up and

551
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 9: just in the flow of the play by play call,

552
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 9: whether it was a Chubb call or whatever, you know,

553
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 9: he he had. It's just that's something you're you're kind

554
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 9: of a think it's it's it's organic, and you're just

555
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 9: it just kind of comes with the territory. The way

556
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 9: he was wired, the way some broadcasters are wired. It

557
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 9: just clicks, and it's like comedic timing. You never really

558
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 9: can say you know why it happens, but when you

559
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 9: hear it, it's right. And some can't do it. In fact,

560
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 9: a lot of guys can't do it. He was one

561
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 9: of those guys that could. It. Just he lost himself

562
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 9: in the game and because of the way his mind

563
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 9: worked and his passion for the game always came flowing out.

564
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 9: You could just sense that he was always on top

565
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 9: of his craft. And it's hard to do. It's hard

566
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Speaker 9: to stay to keep your concentration and anything for three minutes,

567
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 9: let alone three hours, and that's what a play by

568
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 9: play guy in radio has got to do. Joe Tate

569
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 9: did that so well. I grew up listening to Tate

570
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 9: on three. We you know, I grew up in Green Bay,

571
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 9: so that would come right across the Great Lakes, and

572
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 9: that signal at night with boom in So I listened

573
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Speaker 9: to Joe, Tate, Nev and Shan. I mean, like all

574
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 9: these great Cleveland voices. I remember them so indelibly in

575
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Speaker 9: my mind growing up as a kid, because geographically Cleveland

576
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 9: and Green Bay were not that far apart, and being

577
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 9: on the Great Lakes like that that signal would carry

578
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 9: and and I so, you know, Nev, I'm like, oh

579
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 9: my gosh, I got to go on and on about

580
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 9: Cleveland broadcasters. But Jimmy is right shoulder to shoulder with

581
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 9: these great voices from from your town. I remember listening

582
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 9: to Pete Franklin when I was growing up and were

583
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 9: sitting just lad, how can there be a guy like

584
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 9: this on radio. So Cleveland radio to me, has got

585
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 9: a very special place in my in my heart because

586
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 9: that as a kid, I'd fall asleep a lot of

587
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 9: times listening to games and broadcasts that would come from

588
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 9: Detroit and w JR, and certainly the Cleveland stations that

589
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 9: would carry right right in the Upper Midwest like they did.

590
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Speaker 2: Kevin.

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Speaker 6: We thank you very much for the time, enjoy the

592
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 6: day of best you can, and hopefully we see in

593
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 6: Cleveland again soon.

594
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, broadcast is going to going to Cleveland today. I

595
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 9: think it covers about half the country here in Vegas

596
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 9: with the Chiefs, and I'm going to make a mention

597
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 9: to jim but it's you know, it's a few times

598
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 9: in your life you get a chance to meet somebody

599
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 9: that in your profession that you really respect and enjoy

600
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 9: on the same level, respect what they do, but love

601
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 9: them as a person. And I think that's how I

602
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 9: and hundreds of others that are in this profession at

603
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 9: this level, and thousands in Ohio and certainly Cleveland think

604
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 9: of Jimmy and and remember him and what he meant.

605
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 9: And I know that that their heavy hearts and many broadcasters'

606
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 9: minds and feelings today with the loss of one of

607
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 9: the great voices in this league. And it's been my

608
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 9: privilege to be on with you and and and and

609
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 9: talk about a friend that we're all.

610
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Speaker 2: Going to miss, Kevin.

611
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 6: It's a pleasure, even under these circumstances. We thank you

612
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 6: very much for the time, Take care, Thank you guys.

613
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Thank you.

614
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 6: Kevin Harlan joining us in fl on CBS.

615
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: Up.

616
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Speaker 1: Next, two people that knew Jim Donovan as well as

617
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: any They've been ingrained here since the eighties with Jim

618
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Speaker 1: Donovan when Jim came to WKYC and became the lead

619
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Speaker 1: sports anchor in the eighties. Here's Tony Grossy from eight

620
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Speaker 1: to fifty ESPN Cleveland and Marykacabot from Cleveland dot Com

621
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Speaker 1: joining Kennon Gerard on the Browns Game Day pregame show.

622
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Speaker 6: Today, we remember the great Jim Donovan who we lost

623
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Speaker 6: yesterday at the age of sixty eight, and two of

624
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 6: his closest friends in Cleveland media have joined us to

625
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 6: share their stories of the great one, Jim Donovan. We

626
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 6: welcome in Tony Grossy of ESPN Cleveland and Marykacabot at

627
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 6: the Cleveland Plaindealer in Cleveland dot com. Mary, Kay, want

628
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Speaker 6: to start with you, the news happened yesterday, you were

629
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 6: close with Jim. Just your overall memories of a great

630
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 6: friend to Brown's fans again throughout the entire world.

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Speaker 10: Well, we all know what a great person, what a

632
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 10: great human being, Jimmy was, how funny he was. But

633
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 10: my fondest memories of Jimmy were sitting on that Monday

634
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 10: night set on Channel three with him every single week

635
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 10: for years and years and years and years. And we

636
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 10: had a lot of other people that would join us

637
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 10: on that set over the years. We had Bud Shaw,

638
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 10: we had Josh Cribs, we have Jason Lloyd, but it

639
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 10: was always Jimmy and I every Monday night, coming into

640
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 10: your living room. And I will always always cherish those

641
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 10: moments of breaking down the game before, of reliving some

642
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 10: of his amazing, amazing calls, of us trying to make

643
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 10: sense out of one and thirty one, out of Johnny

644
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 10: Manziel and Josh Gordon and Justin Gilbert and Hugh Jackson

645
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 10: and all the crazy things that have happened with this

646
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 10: football team. But everywhere I would go out in the community,

647
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 10: everyone would ask me all the time about Jimmy. People

648
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 10: have just been praying for him and wishing him well

649
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 10: all these years. But that will always be some of

650
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 10: the most treasured treasured moments of my career, is sitting

651
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 10: there on those Monday nights right next to Jimmy.

652
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Speaker 6: Tony, you were with jim for many years as well,

653
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 6: you know, Mary Kay was with him on Mondays. You

654
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 6: were with him, I believe on Tuesday on the Browns

655
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Speaker 6: Red Zone. Give us your memories of.

656
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Speaker 11: Jim Well, Jimmy was a great mentor to both Mary

657
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Speaker 11: Kay and myself as we shifted from you know, print

658
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Speaker 11: journalism to electronic media. I go way back really the

659
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Speaker 11: beginning of the expansion era when I did a program

660
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Speaker 11: with Jimmy called The Point After with me him, Doug

661
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Speaker 11: Deacon and Sam Atigliano, and from there it went to another, one, another,

662
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Speaker 11: one another one, and he just taught me so much

663
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Speaker 11: his professionalism, and he was the epitome of a professional,

664
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Speaker 11: so passionate about what he did and his love of

665
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Speaker 11: doing radio and calling Brown's games.

666
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Speaker 12: That was the high point of his career.

667
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 11: And this was a guy who could have done anything

668
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 11: he wanted in the career of broadcast journalism.

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Speaker 2: He was that good.

670
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 12: He could have been.

671
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Speaker 11: We know he's done Olympics World Cup for NBC. He

672
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 11: wanted to do the Cleveland Browns. My favorite memory of

673
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 11: Jimmy is one of my favorite is this. We had

674
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Speaker 11: so much time, so much good times on the road,

675
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 11: you know, Saturdays before games on the road, and we'd

676
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 11: often go to dinner, and I have a favorite place

677
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 11: in Indianapolis called Iria's. All right, So one we're playing

678
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 11: the Colts in Indianapolis and a lot of Browns fans

679
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 11: made that trip unbeknownst to us. But I told Jimmy, okay,

680
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 11: let's meet at Iris at whatever seven o'clock. And we

681
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 11: both saw each other in the parking lot. We both

682
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 11: walked in together, and there's so many Browns fans there.

683
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 11: They gave Jimmy a standing ovation when they saw him.

684
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 11: It was it was like it made their night, it

685
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 11: made our night. But it was just sensational. He was

686
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 11: so much fun to be around. Off and Mary Kay

687
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 11: and I were both dear friends of his, and I

688
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 11: know everyone who listens to Jimmy considers him a friend,

689
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 11: and he was. But it's deeper than that with the

690
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 11: two of us.

691
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: It certainly is.

692
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 8: And I had the opportunity to interact with you and

693
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 8: Jimmy on a set of a TV show, And it's

694
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 8: fair to say that.

695
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 11: Some of those off the A segues would that be

696
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 11: Golden TV or what.

697
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 8: Yes, it would be I was going right there, Tony

698
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 8: in that what we said in between the show. While

699
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 8: it wasn't being broadcast. And again, folks, it was nothing

700
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 8: that was ill and taste or whatnot. It's just that

701
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 8: you really got a great sense of Jim's wit and

702
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 8: his sarcasm and his humor in those interactions. And you

703
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 8: guys were very, very welcoming to me, let me into

704
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 8: your inner circle, if you will, and be.

705
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 2: A part of the gang.

706
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 8: And I appreciate that about both of you guys and

707
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 8: doing that for me man, So I can't say that enough.

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00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 11: Well, those are fun times, and you know that's what's

709
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 11: going to carry us through now. But it was tremendous

710
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 11: to be a party. It was a privilege that he

711
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 11: would and Draw I'm sure I could speak for you

712
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 11: on this.

713
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 12: It was a privilege that he would.

714
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 11: He would help us so much in what we did

715
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 11: to be with him on the air, and couldn't have

716
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 11: done it without him.

717
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 6: Mary Kay, when the Browns come back in nineteen ninety nine,

718
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 6: can you describe why Jim was the perfect person to

719
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 6: be the voice of this of this football team, not

720
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 6: only because of his knowledge, but also because of how

721
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 6: good he was with people and a guy who was

722
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 6: so dedicated to it. I mean, he was a guy

723
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 6: who called games on NBC nationally and walked away from

724
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 6: that to do the Browns on the radio, to provide

725
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 6: the pictures that people couldn't see and be that relationship

726
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 6: that people needed when this franchise came back.

727
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, he was a Clevelander through and through, even though

728
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 10: he wasn't born here. This city really stole his heart.

729
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 10: This town stole his heart. These Cleveland Browns completely stole

730
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 10: his heart.

731
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Speaker 2: One of the.

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Speaker 10: Things that stands out to me about Jimmy is the

733
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 10: fact that everybody trusted him. Everybody trusted him with so

734
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 10: much information. He knew everything. He knew where the skeletons

735
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 10: were buried, he knew what the controversies were behind the scenes.

736
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 10: And yet he always maintained his professionalism and he had

737
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 10: that perfect mix between reporting what needed to be reported

738
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 10: and not violating someone's confidence. He was phenomenal at that

739
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 10: and that voice. I mean, are you kidding me? Because

740
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 10: I'll tell you what. I have listened to every single

741
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 10: game that he has called in all of these years.

742
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 10: That's what I do. On Sundays. I listened to Jimmy

743
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 10: Donovan and Jimmy and Doug together. I Mean, those were

744
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 10: just such golden, golden years. That I know that we

745
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 10: will always always cherish and we were talking about what

746
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 10: it was like to be on the set, and I

747
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 10: know Tony can relate to this too. We would be

748
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 10: cracking up because I was on the Red Zone for

749
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 10: many years too. With these guys, we would be cracking

750
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 10: up while we were off the air, and then Jimmy

751
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 10: would somehow pull it together and we all had to

752
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 10: put on a straight face, and he could do that

753
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 10: because he was such a professional, and we would be

754
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 10: sitting there wanting to just continue to crack up because

755
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 10: he was so funny with his impressions that he did

756
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 10: of people, with impressions that he did of owners, of players,

757
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 10: of media members. I mean, he was just so hilarious

758
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 10: and he kept things so upbeat, and I'll never forget

759
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 10: all these times when you knew he was hurting, and

760
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 10: you knew that he had no business being in the booth,

761
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 10: and he would drag himself here sometimes sweating, just being

762
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 10: in various stages of on wellness, and he was always here,

763
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 10: and he was always prepared, and this is where he

764
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 10: needed to be and he wanted to be, and it

765
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 10: was truly truly a love affair.

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Speaker 6: Mary Kaycabot, The Cleveland Plaindealer, Cleveland dot Com, Tony Grossey, ESPN,

767
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 6: Cleveland folks, I can't thank you enough for the time.

768
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: And the memories.

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Speaker 2: Take care.

770
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Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you, Tony Grossy and Mary kay Cabot.

771
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Joe Thomas happened to be in town

772
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: for Browns and Ravens when news came of Jim's passing.

773
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: Joe was one of the first ones to reach out

774
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: to say, what can I do? And can I come

775
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: on to honor the great play by play voice of

776
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: your Cleveland Browns. Here's Joe with Andy Baskin and Tyvas

777
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: Powell on the Cleveland Browns Kickoff Show.

778
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 13: We are now joined by Pro Football Hall of Famer

779
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 13: Joe Thomas. Eleven years, one hundred and sixty seven games,

780
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 13: ten th three hundred and sixty three consecutive snaps, and

781
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 13: every one of those snaps connected you with the voice

782
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 13: of the Browns, Jim Donovan, who.

783
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 12: Passed away yesterday.

784
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 13: Joe, your thoughts and your reflections on really the only

785
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 13: play by play guy you knew outside of Wisconsin, My friend,

786
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 13: how are you?

787
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm doing well. I know it's a tough day.

788
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 14: For Brown's Nation with the loss of Jim Donovan, who's

789
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 14: been the only constant here since nineteen ninety nine, and

790
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 14: a guy that I was able to develop a relationship

791
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 14: when I got drafted in two thousand and seven because

792
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 14: of the amazing person that he is.

793
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 12: Right, he was always so warm.

794
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 14: And welcoming and allowing you when you're in the locker

795
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 14: room to have any conversation that you wanted. And I

796
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 14: think for the guys that were around for more than

797
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 14: just a couple of years, you developed that relationship with

798
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 14: him because I think he really valued the friendships and

799
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 14: the relationships in the locker room, and it made his

800
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 14: calls even better having that background with the players, and

801
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 14: you could feel the emotion when you heard him speak

802
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 14: and when you heard him call games. And I think

803
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 14: that was why Browns fans connected with him so much,

804
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 14: because the emotions that he felt up in that booth

805
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 14: were the same emotions that the fans had when they

806
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 14: were watching the game on mute and listening to him

807
00:40:59,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 14: on the radio.

808
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's definitely the way to go, right there. You know, Joe,

809
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 15: you've done You've called some Browns games yourself. You've heard

810
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 15: Jim called up was some things that you've taken away

811
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 15: from him that you have added or that you will

812
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 15: add to your game you call games.

813
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think with jim you know, he was such

814
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 14: a consummate professional, the best in the business, best play

815
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 14: by play guy on radio, and he made it look

816
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 14: and sound so easy and so smooth. And I don't

817
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 14: think people realized like the preparation that went into every

818
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 14: single game, the way that he built an incredible process

819
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 14: to get ready for a game. And I think as

820
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 14: a younger person in the media, with certainly not nearly

821
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 14: as much experience or practice as jim, you can learn

822
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 14: so much from how he approached the game, how he

823
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 14: took the same process every single week, so that when

824
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 14: he was in the booth, he was prepared. He was

825
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 14: ready to let the normal emotions of the game fill

826
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 14: him up and to fill up the airwaves with that

827
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 14: golden voice that he had. It was just so special

828
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 14: being able to watch him work, watch him prepare, and

829
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 14: then be able to listen to the incredible execution on

830
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 14: game day and the way he just connected fans to

831
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 14: being right there.

832
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 12: In the stadium.

833
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Speaker 13: Joe, There's another thing with Jimmy and with the players, too,

834
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 13: and you know this as well as I do. Like

835
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 13: when you come in as a rookie or you're around

836
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 13: a team of maybe the first year or something like that,

837
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 13: I think players are like, hey man, I got to

838
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 13: make sure I take care of my football stuff straight.

839
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Speaker 2: I better not be talking to the media. I may

840
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: not be able to do that.

841
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 13: Jim was able to break through all those walls and

842
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 13: as you said, build those relationships, and can you talk

843
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 13: about how he was able to do that and be

844
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 13: a part I mean, we'll talk about him like any

845
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 13: like Jim Brown right now. You know, if you think

846
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 13: about the legends of this and his ability to have

847
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 13: those relationships with players.

848
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: Especially in a world where a lot of times players

849
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: are guarded, well.

850
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 14: I think it starts because his personality was so disarming.

851
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 14: You walk up to him, it didn't matter who you were,

852
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 14: if you weren't Miles Garrett, or if you were just

853
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 14: a fan on the street. He was so engaging and

854
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 14: he just made you want to open up right away.

855
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 14: And I think with him and Doug Deacon on the

856
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 14: call for my career, it was great.

857
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 12: Having him in the locker room.

858
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 14: Like you said, like there's there's a little bit of

859
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 14: a wall between players and.

860
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 12: Media because you're always guarded, you're worried.

861
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 14: About what you're gonna say. Maybe it's it's going to

862
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 14: end up in the newspapers, you know, back when I played,

863
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 14: when they had newspapers. Now it's social media or on

864
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 14: any website. But you quickly learned as a player like hey,

865
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 14: Doug and Jim, like those are guys that they're on

866
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 14: our side, right and you could have those conversations. And

867
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Speaker 14: I think that's what built that radio booth to be

868
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 14: so special for me as a player and for fans

869
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 14: to be able to give them that peak behind the

870
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 14: curtain or what's really going on in Beria from a

871
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 14: fans perspective, because he did build those relationships. He spent

872
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 14: those times with the players, and the players trusted him

873
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 14: to be able to talk to him and Doug about

874
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 14: whatever's going on in their life, whatever was going on

875
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 14: in the locker room, in the field, and there was

876
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 14: always that level of confidentiality, so you felt like you

877
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 14: could openly talk around those guys, but they were able

878
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 14: to get that insight in that deeper relationship that I

879
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 14: think really helped build out the color of their broadcast.

880
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 13: I just kind of want you to close your eyes

881
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 13: for a second and think about being a player in

882
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 13: the locker room, and you know when those First of all, Joe,

883
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 13: you were always the best after the game because win

884
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 13: or lose. And this is while I'll always always respect you,

885
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 13: is that you were always willing to talk to anybody,

886
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 13: even if there were two or three waves of reporters

887
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 13: that would come in and want to talk to you.

888
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 13: But when Jim was on the other side asking those questions,

889
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 13: whether he was holding a Browns microphone or holding a

890
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 13: channel free microphone, you know the perspective, And I'm curious

891
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 13: your perspective on this too, that he always asked questions

892
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 13: that were about making fans smarter and also getting us

893
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 13: the ability to get to know you a little bit better.

894
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 13: Can you just kind of reflect on him as a

895
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 13: member of the media when you were a player here

896
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 13: and just kind of sitting on the other side of

897
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 13: those questions.

898
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, I thought he always asked great questions no matter

899
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 14: what role he was playing, whether he was asking the

900
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 14: question because he had some news hits to do, or

901
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 14: he was working for a sports or doing different shows,

902
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 14: or if he was just working on behalf of the

903
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 14: Browns Radio Network. I think he asked the right questions,

904
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 14: and it was never questions that put you on the

905
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 14: defensive as a player. But I think he realized that, hey,

906
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 14: sometimes the team's not going to be in the playoff

907
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 14: on it, But how do I make fans want to

908
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 14: still tune in and be part of this broadcast. Let's

909
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 14: teach him about their team, Let's teach him about the sport.

910
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 14: Let's ask the right questions so that he can really

911
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 14: be a conduit to what the players are thinking.

912
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 12: What they're talking about, what.

913
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 14: They're going to be experiencing on Sunday, and so he

914
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 14: can lean into that during the broadcast. And I think

915
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 14: his level of understanding of football certainly was great before

916
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 14: he even took the job, but I think the way

917
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 14: that he was inquisitive and curious and asked those right,

918
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 14: the correct questions when he was around players allowed him

919
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 14: to understand the game so much better and to be

920
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 14: able to then translate that to a fan and an

921
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 14: easy to understand way. So, Hey, the team's not playing

922
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 14: great year. I played on some teams that didn't win

923
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 14: a lot, but you still wanted to listen because he

924
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 14: was still educating you as he was entertaining you.

925
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: Up in the move.

926
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 15: You know, Joe, everybody, and I think everybody has a

927
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 15: heavy heart today, and I know that Jim Donovan's spirit

928
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 15: will be felt, especially by some of these players. One

929
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 15: of the players that really needs Jim spirit today will

930
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 15: be Dewan Jones, who's making his first NFL start at

931
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 15: left tackle.

932
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: What do you hope to see out of him today?

933
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 12: Well, I want to see consistent play. Right.

934
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 14: I think we all know Dewan has the ability to

935
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 14: be a great player, like one of the biggest, most

936
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 14: athletic offensive linemen in the league, and he's shown some

937
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 14: great performance over the years. But the question is, hey,

938
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 14: if you want to be a great starter in this

939
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 14: league on the offensive line, it's really about that consistency,

940
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 14: consistency in your set, consistency and figuring out the right

941
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 14: guys that you have to block, communicating with your guard with.

942
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 12: Your tight ends.

943
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 14: And so I think just watching him, which is always

944
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 14: where my eyes go is the left tackle position, just

945
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 14: seeing if him and Joel are in the same page,

946
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 14: making sure that he's picking up the right guys every time,

947
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 14: there's no confusion over there, and that he's getting off

948
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 14: the snap every time, consistently putting himself in good position

949
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 14: to win one on one pass reps.

950
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 13: Joe, one thing you were familiar with was having different

951
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 13: offensive coordinators, having different guys call plays. I'm just what

952
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 13: is a changing the person who calls the plays? How

953
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 13: does that affect an offense in the middle of the season,

954
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 13: and just your thoughts on you know, Ken Dorsey now

955
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 13: calling the places for this team.

956
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 14: I don't think it really affects what the offensive linemen

957
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 14: are going to do because you're still talking about running

958
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 14: the same plays, right, You're gonna just be calling maybe

959
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 14: different plays in different situations because every coordinator is going

960
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 14: to have a different fingerprint, going to want to lean

961
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 14: into different concepts at different positions and points.

962
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 12: In the game.

963
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 14: And I think that's one of the advantages the Browns

964
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 14: have is, you know, Ken was an offensive cordner in Buffalo,

965
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 14: but with different personnel and a little different scheme, and

966
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 14: every coordinator has a fingerprint and you've become for better

967
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 14: or worse, like those are the things that you lean

968
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 14: into in certain situations, and then you have your tendencies

969
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 14: and the other team, the defense, they know those, they

970
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 14: know those things, but with Ken, they don't know what

971
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 14: his tendencies are going to be with this group of

972
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 14: Cleveland Browns because nobody's ever seen it and nobody has

973
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 14: the stats on everything, and so I think there's an

974
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 14: element of surprise that the Browns are going to bring

975
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 14: to this game just because in those critical moments there

976
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 14: is no fingerprint on record. It's kind of like when

977
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 14: you have a quarterback plan for the first time rookie quarterback.

978
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 14: A lot of times they played pretty well right away

979
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 14: because teams don't have that playbook, that blueprint on that guy,

980
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 14: and they don't know exactly the right ways to attack them.

981
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 14: So I think it'll be an easy transition for us

982
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 14: because we're still running the same playbook, but it'll be

983
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 14: tougher for defenses to pick up on the tendencies to

984
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 14: call the right defense in the right moment.

985
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 13: Joe, as always, you know, we appreciate your time and

986
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 13: thank you for reflections on Jim Donovan today.

987
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 12: Thanks Joe, my pleasure, Thanks for having me on.

988
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: Guys, we will talk to you soon.

989
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: Finally, today, the executive vice president of your Cleveland Browns

990
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 1: and a partner in the Haslim Sports Group, a great friend,

991
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: J W. Johnson, Sat down with Andy and Tyvas to

992
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: reflect on the great Jim Donovan.

993
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 13: Obviously, you know, Tyvas and I as we sit here

994
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 13: in the Cardiac Club, very very heavy heart, as we

995
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 13: lost our teammate yesterday, Jim Donovan after an unbelievable battle

996
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 13: with cancer over the last I don't know, two decades

997
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 13: at least, and Jim fought the good fight. Let's get

998
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 13: a little bit more perspective on Jim, his life and

999
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 13: his legacy. We bring in Brown's executive vice president j W.

1000
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 2: Johnson.

1001
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 13: JW. It's always a pleasure to talk to you. Unfortunately

1002
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 13: is with a heavy heart today your thoughts, JW. On Jim,

1003
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 13: and thank you so much for taking the time to

1004
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 13: talk to us.

1005
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, first of all, really appreciate you guys having me on. Yeah,

1006
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 16: obviously you got the news yesterday, and you know, it's

1007
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 16: still hard to put into perspective what a loss this

1008
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 16: is not only for the Donovan family, but for Brown's

1009
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 16: fans around the world, and you know, obviously for your colleagues.

1010
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 16: You know, Jim, obviously we've been here for twelve years now,

1011
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 16: he's been here for twenty.

1012
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 17: Five years, and the calls that he made.

1013
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 16: Are iconic and I think we'll live forever in Brown's lore.

1014
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 16: And you know, there's so many calls that you could

1015
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 16: think of, but I think the one that resonates with

1016
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 16: me the most is twenty twenty. And you know, obviously

1017
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 16: we make it to the playoffs for the first time

1018
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 16: in a long time, and for him to say the

1019
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 16: only think of missing is all of you.

1020
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 17: I think we'll We'll live in my heart and my

1021
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 17: soul for for a long time. And you know, we're

1022
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 17: gonna do everything we can as an organization to honor Jim.

1023
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 16: We're gonna do some figure out a way to do

1024
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 16: something for him this year with maybe a patch or

1025
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 16: a sticker on the helmet, uh, and then you know,

1026
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 16: as we continue to go forward, we'll definitely do something

1027
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 16: bigger for Jim, whether that's in a new stadium. We're

1028
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 16: a current stadium, but we're gonna honor Jim for the

1029
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 16: rest of his life here for the Cleveland Browns.

1030
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, j W.

1031
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 15: I've seen in the press box that they have the

1032
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 15: couple of pictures out there, and then they got one

1033
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 15: in the radio booth.

1034
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: You know, that's a really nice touch.

1035
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 15: Just talk about some of the lessons that you've learned,

1036
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 15: you know, from dealing with you know, Jim Donald.

1037
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: You know, he's touched so many people.

1038
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 15: Is there any stories that come to mind, you know

1039
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 15: that makes you think about him?

1040
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 16: Well, I mean listen first and foremost. I mean, the

1041
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 16: guy was just such a fighter. I want to just

1042
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 16: touch on that. I mean, what he's been through, when

1043
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 16: his family's been through, the different phases of the cancer that.

1044
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 17: He had to fight and beat.

1045
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 16: And you know, I know that he was wanting to

1046
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 16: be here and calling games this year and unfortunately that

1047
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 16: wasn't the case because he had to take care of himself.

1048
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 17: But he was just the sweetest, kindest person.

1049
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 16: And I think you know, when you listen to Jim

1050
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 16: and him and the storytelling that he would get into

1051
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 16: in a broadcast, it.

1052
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 17: Was just like anything I've ever heard before.

1053
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 16: I mean, I've worked in television and worked with some

1054
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 16: great people, you know, hall of fame announcers, and I

1055
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 16: would say Jim is definitely in that class as far

1056
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 16: as a Hall of Fame announcer. And the way you

1057
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 16: felt like you were just talking to your best friend

1058
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 16: or your grandfather and you know, walking through the game

1059
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 16: or giving you advice, That's who he was.

1060
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 17: I mean he was a fighter, a huge hart and

1061
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 17: you know he.

1062
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 16: I think if you put into family faith in football,

1063
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 16: but I don't know Jim.

1064
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 17: Jim might have put football up there first with the Browns.

1065
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 16: So uh, you know, I mean it's truly gonna gonna

1066
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 16: be missed and unreplaceable.

1067
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 2: Jj I.

1068
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 13: Can you reflect back on maybe when the first time

1069
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 13: you met uh, that you met Jimmy, because I think

1070
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 13: about you and your career has kind of mirrored along

1071
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 13: with with broadcast television and network.

1072
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if everybody knows that.

1073
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 13: You know, your background goes heavily media too, and so

1074
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 13: the first time you met Jim and you know, you're

1075
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 13: that his impact that he had on.

1076
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 16: You, well, I mean listen obviously, just you know, listen

1077
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 16: to the highlights and the calls of him, and then

1078
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 16: you know, obviously spending the first little bit when we

1079
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 16: first got here, it was like wow, okay, a little

1080
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 16: starstruck because of him and how famous he was here

1081
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 16: locally and nationally. And again he was just very kind

1082
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 16: to me and worked very closely with him and Doug

1083
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 16: throughout throughout the you know the course of our time here,

1084
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 16: of my time here, and you know, like I said,

1085
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 16: there's there's not one thing I couldn't touch that that,

1086
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 16: you know, it's just what he meant to the family

1087
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 16: and the organization as a person, and clearly to.

1088
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 17: The fan base.

1089
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 16: I mean, I'm I'm sure the overwhelming support and love

1090
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 16: that we've seen out there from the fans about the

1091
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 16: loss is is unbelievable. And I know a lot of

1092
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 16: the guys on the team, and I know Kevin, you know,

1093
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 16: he wants nothing more to give Jim a game ball

1094
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 16: today and to his family, and I think we all

1095
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 16: want to win for Jim.

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00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 13: Can you also just talk about the I mean, Jim

1098
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 13: lived the life of that conduit between the fans and

1099
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 13: the team and how important that is from an ownership

1100
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 13: role to have someone that can, you know, tell the

1101
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 13: stories and be honest. And you know, Jim was able

1102
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 13: to do that and the importance of that position of

1103
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 13: being a play by play guy for the Cleveland Browns

1104
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 13: and making sure that you know, he he had to

1105
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 13: balance that that fan player owner relationship and it's not

1106
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 13: an easy job. And you know, coming from a team perspective,

1107
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 13: from your perspective, how great he was at that job.

1108
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1109
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 16: Well, I'll say jim was very honest, you know, so

1110
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 16: he was gonna tell you like it is good, good, bad,

1111
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 16: and different. And we appreciated that. And sometimes you know,

1112
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 16: whether that's players or people in the organization, you may

1113
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 16: not like that because it's just the harsh reality. And

1114
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 16: I appreciate him how honest he was with us and

1115
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 16: the fans and everybody, and you know, and and look,

1116
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 16: I know a lot of people sometimes want to hear

1117
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 16: from ownership when things are and going well, and sometimes

1118
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 16: that's appropriate and sometimes it's not. And I think having

1119
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 16: Jim or other people speak from the organization that's what's important.

1120
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 16: So and he did that with such class and grace.

1121
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 16: And like I said, we'll miss that.

1122
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: JW. Let me ask you this.

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00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 13: You know, Jimmy was inducted in the Legends, the first

1124
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 13: non player to be able to do that. How important

1125
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 13: was that for you in the organization. I had the

1126
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 13: honor of being the MC that night, and it was

1127
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 13: really touching. And to hear Doug and just like I

1128
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 13: want to cry just thinking about it, because you.

1129
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: Know, his relationship with Doug was unbelievable.

1130
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 17: Yeah, no, listen there, it was the right thing to do.

1131
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 16: I just wish it. He could have been there in person.

1132
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 16: I think we tried to get him to be there

1133
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 16: in person, but I think he just was in a

1134
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 16: place where he just knew we couldn't and that that

1135
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 16: was just the hardest. But you know, having Megan and

1136
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 16: the whole family be a part of it, and then

1137
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 16: especially on you know, the he and Phil Dawson going

1138
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 16: in together, and the calls that he had with Phil,

1139
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 16: you know, the two of them to go in together,

1140
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 16: and what a what a special treat, and yeah, that

1141
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 16: that was a great.

1142
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 17: Night, and well, we'll never.

1143
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 16: Forget and we're just happy that he is a legend

1144
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 16: and he is and he's where he needs to be.

1145
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 16: And then you know, look, hopefully we can figure out

1146
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 16: a way to get him into the Pro Football Hall

1147
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 16: of Fame here one day, because he definitely deserves a

1148
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 16: spot there in camp.

1149
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: Amen, Amen, thank you, j W.

1150
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 13: We appreciate the time and I always look forward to

1151
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 13: talking and thank you for talking to us under sad circumstances.

1152
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1153
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, thanks for having me on and have a great day,

1154
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 16: and obviously, big prayers to Jim and his family and

1155
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 16: let's let's win this for Jimmy today.

1156
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: There you go. Brown's executive vice president J W.

1157
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: Johnson, thanks everybody for taking a few minutes out of

1158
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: your day to listen for more coverage on the passing

1159
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: of Jim Donovan. From videos of the past to the

1160
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: great Jim Donovan calls, to interviews, to reactions from Sunday's

1161
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: game as they happened from the radio booth. Keep it

1162
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: locked to all the Brown social media channels. Also, keep

1163
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: it locked to Cleveland Browns daily all week long, as

1164
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: we have a number of Jim's friends, former co workers,

1165
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: and luminaries joining us to reflect and honor the great

1166
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: voice of your Cleveland Browns. Also our great friend Jim Donovan.

1167
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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.