1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, it's Sophia. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to Work in Progress. We're back for part two 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: with doctor B. Let's get back on stage. I know 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: for you, women's health is a big life calling. You 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: launched the White House Initiative on Women's Health Research. Why 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: was that the next right thing for you as the 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: first Lady? 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I was in the White House. I 9 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: was grading papers. It was a Saturday, I think it 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: was near Easter, and Maria Schreiver came in, First Lady 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: of California. I'm period and former first Lady, and so 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: we started talking about women's health. And she said to me, Jill, 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: do you realize that all the research until the mid 14 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: nineteen nineties has been done on men. No women in 15 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: those studies, no research men. So all the diagnoses we 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: would get, all the prescription medicines were based on men, 17 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: their you know, physiques, their weights, et cetera. Oh, and 18 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: even the mice were male mice. How can you, I mean, 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: how can you study menopause in a male mouse? 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean right, it's crazy. 21 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: So anyway, so I went to Joe after Maria and 22 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: I spoke. I went up to him and you know, 23 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: I said, Joe, there's a big problem. We have to 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: solve it. And he said, you're right. So, I mean, 25 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: this is what I love about Joe. He took a 26 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: problem in and he tackled it, and he, you know, 27 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: found an answer. So we started the White House Women's 28 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: Initiative on Health and in one year we put a 29 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: billion dollars into funding and research. 30 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: For women's health. Now, and you know, we. 31 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: Got to keep going. Women have to keep fighting for ourselves. 32 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: We do. I mean in all areas, which I'm sure 33 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: you agree, in all the social areas. We have to 34 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 3: keep fighting the things that have been taken away from us. 35 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: We can't give up. I'm a sixties girl. A lot 36 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: of you girls are women here who were in the sixties. 37 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: Look what we had to fight for, equal rights, equal pay, 38 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: women's sports. How about money for women's sports, and so 39 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: much that we fought for and we got to an extent. 40 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: But now it seems like it's rolling back. So we 41 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: have to say to the younger women, come on, take 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: up the mantle and move forward. I mean, I'm just 43 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: you can tell I'm passionate. 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: I'm with you, you know, and I think it's so 45 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: important that we all know the stats. 46 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean ladies, we need to know. But also like 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: shout out to all the guys here. 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: You're here to listen to you ladies, talk like you're 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: on the right side of history. 50 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: And you should know these facts. 51 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: You know. 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: You saw us through some of those fights. 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: I am part of the first American generation of truly 54 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: free women, the first nineteen seventy four you couldn't until 55 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four. 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Well, in nineteen seventy three, obviously, wrote which they took. 57 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy four was when you could finally lease an 58 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: apartment on your own. 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: I believe nineteen eighty eight was. 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: The first time a woman could get a bank loan 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: by herself. Nineteen ninety three it was the first time 62 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: we were included in a clinical trial. And guess what, 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: It's also the same year we could finally wear pants 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: on the floor of. 65 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: Congress, nineteen ninety three. 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: Like when you think about how it's been a hot second. 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, we couldn't even. 68 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: Get the era ratified because by the time we got 69 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: the forty eight state to sign it, all the bros 70 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: in the halls of government were like, m took too long. 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: We're not gonna let you have it. So the idea that. 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: We've even been totally free is a ruse. But what 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: we've made like just close enough to equal progress that 74 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: they're panicking And now the tradwives are on Instagram and 75 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: now they're like. 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: Women shouldn't vote, and I'm like, excuse you. We had 77 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: a revolution about this, Like yeah, what? 78 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: So that feels like everybody gets a little bit of 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: info to take home. You're welcome for your initiative. When 80 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: I saw you doing this investing work, I was so 81 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: excited about it because it's been an area of importance 82 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: for me. 83 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I am so lucky to be in. 84 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: A community of incredible women. I'm so lucky to have 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: intergenerational friendships with incredible women who've shared their stories. And 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: the disparities in healthcare, not just for women but for 87 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: women of color are insane and it only can happen 88 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: because there's so little money for us in general. So 89 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: just a few more things for you to take home. 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 91 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: Well, wait a minute, it was in nineteen seventy four. 92 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: That was about when I got my first teaching job. 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: Up do everything anyway, I got my first teaching job, 94 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: and I was telling you this or who anyway, I 95 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: forget who I was telling. But anyway, it's been a 96 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: long book toory. 97 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: You're doing it. 98 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: Okay. So the same week that I was hired, I 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: was hired in an English department. I got seven five 100 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: hundred dollars more nurse my first job. A man in 101 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: the same English department, same job. You know what, he 102 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: got ten thousand? Yes, yes, crazy. And I went to 103 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: buy a car. 104 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: Guess what. 105 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: They made my father's co sign. 106 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, they made my father co sign for this. 107 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: I mean, you know here, I had my own teaching job. 108 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: I was so proud. 109 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 3: And then they're saying, ah, get your father. 110 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's the thing. 111 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: The independence didn't matter because the policy hadn't caught up, 112 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: and the women's health investing in particular is honestly a 113 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: crisis we have to solve. Only one to three percent 114 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: of all private healthcare research and development dollars go to 115 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: conditions that affect women. 116 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: So we're fifty one percent of the population. There's literally 117 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: more of us. 118 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: Everyone came from us, and we get one percent of 119 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: the money. 120 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: The math is not mathing. Less than two percent. 121 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: Of private healthcare investments in capital target women's specific. 122 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: Conditions and only five percent of all. 123 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: Overall global R and D is dedicated to women's health. 124 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 2: So when you're hopefully signed up on the five calls, 125 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: app to bug your elected officials. 126 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Bug them about. 127 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: This also, and encourage them to continue the work of 128 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: the Biden's Healthcare Initiative on women. 129 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Because we should, we should, we should? Yeah? Yeah, now, Oh, 130 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: I have so many more questions. I'm looking at the timer. 131 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm starting to panic. Okay, We're gonna be fine. 132 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm curious because I know out of that I got 133 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: to see you guys talk about it at CGI a 134 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. 135 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: I know the cancer Moonshot initiative is so deeply. 136 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: Personal for your family, and I'm curious, in the years 137 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: since you announced the research funding and the moonshot, are 138 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: there any really exciting developments you want to share with people, 139 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: Because health hardship is terrifying, and sometimes when we have 140 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: good news, I feel like we should shout it from 141 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: the roof. 142 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean there are a lot of advancements in cancer. 143 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: I you know, cancer has been rampant really in my family. 144 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: Both my parents died from it. My sister had a 145 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: stem cell transplant with because of lymphoma and lived. She's great. 146 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: And then you know, our son Bo died of gliablastoma, 147 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: and which was really tough. I mean we did everything 148 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: we could, I mean everything, the diet, the I mean, 149 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: going to different trials, getting him on different medicines, and 150 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: you know, it was just one of those things that 151 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: I just as a mother, I mean I just never 152 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: ever ever believe that, you know, God would take him. 153 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 3: And now I mean there's this cruel irony that, with 154 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: the cancer Moonshot and all that we've done for cancer 155 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: and will continue to do that, my husband, you know, 156 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: ended up with stage four prostate cancer, which is bad enough, 157 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: but I want to tell the men here in the 158 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: audience that prostate cancer they do have a cure for. 159 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: I mean, you can be cured from that. Unfortunately, for Joe, 160 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: it metastasized to his bones and that just changed the 161 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: whole ball game. And so now Joe will live, I 162 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 3: mean his whole life will He will live with cancer, 163 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: which means that he's on really strong medicines that make 164 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 3: him really tired and you know, have such strong side effects. 165 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: And so we keep fighting and you know, and there's 166 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: so much that really that we're going to continue to 167 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: do and I you know, people cannot forget to go 168 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: get their screenings. I mean, I think in COVID everybody 169 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: was scared to death to go into a hospital at 170 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: doctor's office, and so the screenings went way down. But 171 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: I want you all to think about this, if you 172 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: can think about all of you who are should be 173 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: getting like a mammogram or a dexa, you know, the 174 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 3: bone skin. You just stick your hand in an X 175 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: ray machine. It doesn't hurt or anything. Prostate cancer, breast cancer. 176 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: You know you may not know this, but in the 177 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: early nineteen nineties, four four of my friends were diagnosed 178 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: with breast cancer and I thought, oh my god, what 179 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: can I do. I have to do something. And I thought, 180 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: I'm not a doctor, but well I am a doctor, 181 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: you're a doctor. So I developed a program. I went 182 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: into every school in the state of Delaware, and it 183 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: was so long ago. In Dover High School, they made 184 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: the girls have a permission slip because we were saying 185 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: the word breast. Honest to God, that's the truth. And anyway, 186 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: we went in with breast models and we showed women 187 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 3: what it felt like, you know, a lumpy breast or 188 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: if you could feel something in your breast, and we 189 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: taught them good health practices. And anyway, I did that 190 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: I think for twenty years. Wow, and then I you know, 191 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: I finally had to stop because I was a second lady. 192 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: But that was my beginning of work, you know, trying 193 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: to fight against awareness and prevention, which I think is 194 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: really where we should be focusing, is prevention with all 195 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: these cancers. Yeah. 196 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: So yeah, so think about it. 197 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: Think about getting your screening if you haven't. And I 198 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: know it's hard, and I know you're afraid a lot 199 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: of you, but you're going to be more afraid if 200 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: you get that negative diagnosis like Jogott. 201 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 202 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well we all wish him very well. 203 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: I know, please tell him. 204 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: Boston said, happy anniversar, and thank you. I mean, frankly, 205 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: we're very lucky. But he lent you to us on 206 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: your anniversary. It's like we got a gift. 207 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: So I hope we. 208 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: Can send some real positivity his way. And I think 209 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: it's a really amazing thing that you've chosen not only 210 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: to do the advocacy work, but so many of these 211 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: moments that are so devastating for families. As you've shared, 212 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: you as a family have shared with our families, and 213 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: you've made us all feel less alone in grief or illness. 214 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: And I'm guessing I can speak for everyone in the 215 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: room in this moment when I say thank you, because 216 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: to know you're not alone in that that also helps 217 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: save people. 218 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: Well, everybody's touched by cancer. I bet every person in 219 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: this auditorium has been touched by cancer by someone they 220 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: love or themselves. 221 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: I think there's. 222 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: Something about the presence with which and the frankness with 223 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: which you speak about it, though, that not everybody does. 224 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: And I want to give you your flowers for that. 225 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: You really you know, you've chosen to model not just 226 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: the good. And you talk in the book about how 227 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: sometimes the job of a first lady is to sit 228 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: with people in grief, whether that is a family who's 229 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: lost someone to cancer or mothers who've lost their sons 230 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. I mean you've made it universal in a 231 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: way when a lot of people want to put it 232 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: on the bottom shelf and not talk about it. 233 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: Do you see the willingness to sit with grief. 234 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: As a form of activism also, well I never thought 235 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: of it that way, but definitely for me. 236 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: And I'll just speak for myself as a former first Lady, 237 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: I felt that when Americans something tragic had happened, like UVOLDI, 238 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 3: horrible Maui, the fires in Maui, surfside in Florida. I mean, 239 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 3: there were so many times when Joe and I would 240 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: go and sit with families and just talk to them 241 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: and empathize and about grief, and I just think that's 242 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: part of the role of a first Lady and a 243 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: president to take care of people who are experiencing grief 244 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: and loss and so. 245 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:46,359 Speaker 2: But well, it's just such a gorgeous act of compassion. 246 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: We miss it. I miss compassion so much. You know, 247 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: you you. 248 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: Have spent fifty years together. You share wonderful pieces of 249 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: your really relationship. I love that he had to propose 250 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: five times. I'm like, good for you, doctor b. But 251 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: you also share about your female friendships. You know, you 252 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: talk about your sisterhood. You also talk about the peculiar 253 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: pressure placed on women in the first place. How you 254 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: write in the book about this, and I think most women, 255 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: while we've never been the first Lady, we get this part. 256 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: You say that being the first Lady could feel like 257 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: a catch twenty two because you're encouraged to use your 258 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: platform to do good, but not be too aggressive in 259 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: pursuing policy goals lest you be seen as overreaching. And 260 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: if you knew too little about what you were talking about, 261 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: or maybe pretended to to not be overreaching, I don't know, 262 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: then you're like some kind of embarrassment. So the balancing act, 263 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: you know, your story is specific, but the balancing act 264 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: I think is very universal for us. How have you 265 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: figured out how to do that? And are your female 266 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: friendships kind of the key? 267 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think they probably are the key. And I 268 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: think every first lady has done the role a different way. 269 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: I mean, if you remember roseland Carter sat in on 270 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: cabinet meetings, and I don't remember that she was criticized 271 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: for that. It was just like that was part of 272 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: their partnership, and so she did. God forbid I should 273 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: sit in it on a cabinet meeting because then it 274 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: would look I mean I was criticized. I went to 275 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: one in four years that I walked in to talk 276 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: about women's health for like ten minutes. And so it's true. 277 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: You can't know too much or know too little, or 278 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: be aggressive or not aggressive enough. So it is a 279 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: fine line, and you know it's nice to I mean 280 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: I always felt like so supported by really the women 281 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: in my friendships. I mean they've meant the world to me. 282 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 3: Of course, as you know, I have four sisters. But 283 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: the cool thing is like I've been supported like my 284 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 3: friends Mary Anne and her sister in laws here are 285 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: Annie and her parents are here, people that are just 286 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: have been, and people in my staff are in this 287 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: audience who work for me like yeah, BP. I mean, 288 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: you know, and I've always felt that support and it's 289 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: a really important part of my life. And I don't 290 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: know whether it came it stems from growing up with 291 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: four sisters and being so close to my mother and 292 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: my grandmother's I mean it just was. I mean, my 293 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: poor dad, honestly, God, he said, even that is a female. 294 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: But he felt overwhelmed. But he handled it, okay, he 295 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 3: could hold his own. 296 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: I love it. 297 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: Who when you think about inspirational women, who inspires you 298 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: these days? 299 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there are so many inspirational women today. 300 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 3: For instance, I just wrote a note to Billy Jean King. 301 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: Great Us. 302 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 3: Does anybody know why she got her college degree? Yes? 303 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: And she got her college It was in the paper. 304 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: You must have missed it, but I thought, good for you. 305 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 3: I mean, remember that tennis match and she was the winner. 306 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I love nineteen seventy three. 307 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I love female athletes and what they're doing because 308 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, having gone through the Title 309 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: nine and money for women's sports, that women's sports is 310 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: finally coming into its own and. 311 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I love that. 312 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: So they inspire me and the women I think, you know, 313 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: in women's in health research, I mean these young scientists 314 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: that are making all these discoveries for endometriosa, osteoporosis. I 315 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: mean some of you in here are maybe a little 316 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: bit older. And I know, is now this new and 317 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: hot topic no pun intended, is menopause. So now we're 318 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: centering on that. But I have to tell you, I 319 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: mean I'm past that. I'm like this next wave. And 320 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: I told my daughter, I'm in my last quarter and 321 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: she's like, Mommy, don't say that. But anyway, there are 322 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: all these women postmenopause who are like, is this normal? 323 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: I mean the things that we are now experiencing in 324 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: our sixties and our seventies and our eighties, like we 325 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: don't have answers. We don't have answers. 326 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Because the mice are men. 327 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: Yes, well, so there has to be a national conversation 328 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: about aging so that when something happens to you or 329 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: your spouse, you don't say, what the heck is this? 330 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: That we have facts and we know where we're going. 331 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: We got to start this as American. 332 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you think about you know this notion 333 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 2: that this is a country built on a dream, right, 334 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: the American dream doesn't stop because you retire. 335 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: That should be. 336 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: Your best life. 337 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: If you get to retire, you should be like living 338 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: it up. 339 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: I want you to be having a time, and you're right, 340 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: you shouldn't be looking around going what's happening to me? 341 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: And does anyone care? You know? It should shift? 342 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: It should. 343 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: I have a couple of just like quick little fun questions. Okay, 344 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: the last few minutes, if I may, you're not in 345 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: the fish bowl anymore. But there are still lots of 346 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 2: people with the badges around them. 347 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: Thank God for them. I had to honestly, God, thank god. 348 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 3: Oh they're so wonderful, so great. 349 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: I had to run back into my dressing room to 350 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: grab something and like four. 351 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: Dudes turned up. I was like, it's just me, just 352 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: hobgobbling around. I just needed my papers. 353 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: Please don't tackle me, honestly, so kind. I just can't 354 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: thank them enough, all of them, Thank you, Thank you 355 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 3: secret service. 356 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: Pretty incredible team you have. Yeah, what does a typical 357 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: day look like? 358 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: Now? 359 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 3: Like? 360 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: Can do you open windows? How often do you. 361 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: Wear for a walk? Actually we do have bulletproof glass 362 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: in the back of our house because now we have 363 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: to write because there's like a lot of craziness and 364 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: but a typical day. I'm an early riser. I love 365 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 3: the morning, and so I get up early. And we 366 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: have two new black lab puppies. Okay, so here's a 367 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: quiz question. Their names are Scout and Boo. Where does 368 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 3: it come from to kill a mockingbird? 369 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: Yes? 370 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: Good, some of you are readers. I love that. So anyway, 371 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 3: so I make sure the dogs and Willow are all 372 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: fed and taken care of, and then I just sit, 373 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 3: like you know, just sit and have quiet and just 374 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: appreciate really my life and what I've been given and 375 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 3: the opportunities. And then I go to exercise every morning. 376 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: And I went this morning to bar and if you 377 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: know bar three, wow, So I cycle, I do bar pilates. 378 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a big exerciser. And then I have 379 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: like a ton of things to do between women's health 380 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: and writing, and you know, Joe's writing his book. He's 381 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: always home. I always have to make him breakfast. He's 382 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: a terrible cook. 383 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: So the day is full. 384 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 3: You know. Usually my kids, my grandkids are in and 385 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: out of the house. They're bringing their friends. I mean 386 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 3: half the time, I don't even know who's sleeping in 387 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 3: my house, you know, because I just come with their friends. 388 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: And that's the way I want it. That's the way 389 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: it's always been, and everybody's welcome, and so anyway, that's 390 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: that's my life. 391 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: I love that. 392 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: I think a full house is kind of a. 393 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah true, yeah, yeah. 394 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: What as our exercise guru on top of all the 395 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: other things you do? What what's this phrase that you've coined, 396 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 2: soul cycle diplomacy. 397 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: Oh, this is so much fun. So when I would 398 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 3: go to foreign countries, I would still cycle because they 399 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: have soul cycle all over the world. And so it 400 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: was we were in England and and so I cycled there 401 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: with got to get Rishi. I'm thinking ahead of thank you, 402 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: and so anyway we cycled together. Sorry, I had that 403 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: just one of those moments. And then in Paris, I 404 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: went to the cycle center, and so I would always 405 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: invite people to cycle with me, I mean, leaders of 406 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 3: foreign countries, and sometimes they came and sometimes they didn't. 407 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: But it was so fun to go because even in France, 408 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 3: and you know, I don't really know French that well, 409 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 3: but you just followed the person ahead of you and 410 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: you just know it was just it was just funny. 411 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: So and it was fun and it was a way 412 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: to connect on a different level. And so and you know, 413 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: Sophie Trudeau and I, I mean just we just it's 414 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: another way to connect with people that isn't like stuppy 415 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: and you know that you just go have fun. So 416 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: that's what soul cycle diplomacy was. 417 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 2: Well, it strikes me as you bringing some of that 418 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: normalcy to an extraordinary situation, or perhaps it terrary is. 419 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: The word I should have used. 420 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: I have another little pop culture question, because I did 421 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: hear that you just went and saw Bono at the 422 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: sphere And I do know, because you know, you did 423 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: admit it once and now everything we've ever said is 424 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 2: on the internet. 425 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: I do Oh, he is your celebrity crush. 426 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: That's true, And I know, like in the world should 427 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: save this on my anniversary though. 428 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: Joe's not here. He's not here, I know in the world. 429 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: Like most people would say, I'm intimidated by a rock star. 430 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: But does a president get intimidated by a rock star? 431 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: No, not at all. 432 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: I didn't think so, but I needed to know. 433 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: No. 434 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: But can I tell you the Bono story? 435 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: Yes? 436 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: Please? Okay. 437 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: So it was so anyway, Joe and Bono started out 438 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: as friends, and so Bona would come to the White 439 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: House and when he's talking to you, like all he 440 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: does is speak poetry, Like he just recites poetry. I mean, 441 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: he's like so his soul is so beautiful, and he 442 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 3: does so many good things in the world. I mean, 443 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: he's a humanitarian. He's really a good decent man. So 444 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: Anthony took me to the Sphere for my birthday one year. 445 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: We were out there for something, probably campaigning, and so 446 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: you two was there and so Bono said, come on 447 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 3: backstage and meet the band and you know, meet my wife, etc. 448 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: This is the beautiful thing. So before they go on stage, 449 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: they get in a circle and they pray, and that's 450 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: what we did. We got in a circle, we held 451 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: hands and we prayed before they went out on stage. 452 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: Then they go out and they play this crazy rock 453 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: music and everything, and then the last song of the 454 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: night he dedicated to me, come on, I love it. 455 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: I love it now you see why? Yeah? I mean 456 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: we won't tell Joe. 457 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, you tell them tomorrow. 458 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: After everything you have experienced as a teacher, a mother, 459 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: a wife, a first lady, a memoirrist. 460 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: What I love that word memoir? 461 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: I know, isn't it? It feels it has a nice 462 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: mouth feel. 463 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: What's your favorite word? 464 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 465 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: My favorite word? I mean not to be cheesy, probably 466 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: love love. 467 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: Oh what a great answer. Yeah, Oh my god. 468 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: You know what other word though? 469 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: Has one of my favorite mouth feels? What My favorite 470 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: word in Spanish? 471 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: Esa eskierta. What does that mean? 472 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: Is it? It's a right or left? It is left right? Okay? 473 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 3: Great? 474 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: Left right now? No, By the way, I just started 475 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: nice Spanish lessons on due lingo. I did take fresh 476 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: and I'm not good at that either. 477 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: But like the word just saying it, I'm like that, 478 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: like I don't need it sounds sexy to me and. 479 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 1: It feels nice and it means left. But you know, 480 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: I think progressives are sexy. So maybe we're onto something here. 481 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: What's your least favorite word? Well, we all those, Wow, 482 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: we know. 483 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: I think I think it's I think we share it. 484 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: You've done so much, you know, you've like. 485 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: You've just lived this big, beautiful life, and you've set 486 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: an example for so many of us, and and you 487 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: know you've checked so many things off the list, the 488 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: bucket list, you've sol cycled with you know, foreign leaders 489 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: like that. 490 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: But I'm curious with all the things you've done and 491 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: everything you have to be so proud of. What in 492 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: your life still feels like a work in progress? 493 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: Oh? Everything, I mean everything is still a work in progress. 494 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 3: I mean I'm not giving up, and I don't know, 495 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: I still have a lot to do. I just, you know, 496 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: like I said my teaching, I want to I do 497 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: want to do stuff with women's self. I do want 498 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: to do prevention of cancer. I do you know going 499 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: into the prisons. I just I have a lot to do. 500 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Plus garden, plus garden me too. I don't know you 501 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: were a gardener. 502 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, we'll talk after we have a lot 503 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: of talk. 504 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: Flowers. 505 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need your tips because I've been a West 506 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: Coast gardener my whole life, and how I'm an East Coast. 507 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: Gardener, like, what is winter? Yeah, my plants? 508 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: I know, Okay, we can talk. 509 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: This will be, this will be for later, but for 510 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: now we're out of time and those are all my oh. 511 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: My gosh, we are I know. It's been so much fun. 512 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming, Thank you for coming me. Thank 513 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: you help me up, thank you, Thank you guys, thank 514 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: you for being here.