1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Wellchi wellgy wellichie. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Guess who's crawling back. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: They thought they could defeat us, but we are undefeated. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: It's episode one oh three, and guess what we're talking 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: about the Boston Celtics putting up I would say numbers 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: from another dimension that we are trying to process what 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: is happening with this team and are they going to go. 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: All the way? 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: And we'll also check in just just trying to ask 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: our office. 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: Is too good? 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 4: Now? 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: Are they just too good? Yes? Yeah, yeah, please and 14 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: make the basket smaller for the make the ball like 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: a weird shape so that they can't make it as good. 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, And we're gonna be doing all of that 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: with comedian Josh Gondleman on today's episode. 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 3: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and. 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: This is sorry, look as okay, there. 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: You be driving Spinny. 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: LNS got up with five? Is gonna try another three? 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 4: Mister hook On, James, be honest, look out show. 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Time, oh man, Josh Gondleman, thank you so much for 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: joining him. 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: A Gondan, He's a gondole. 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 4: Job. I'm always telling people that exactly makes sense the 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 4: way Jay Z says it, but not. 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: The way that doesn't work at all. 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 4: Man. 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: Uh. 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: For people who don't know, Josh has worked on everything 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: including last week tonight, Missus mays Well, Jesus and Marrow. 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: You got a new. 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Comedy special, people Pleaser that's out now, and you're yeah. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: On tour and I'm recording a new special in Brooklyn 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: in June. Yeah, I'm all over the place. I'm all 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: over the country and then walking down this hour in Brooklyn. 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: I'm very excited for our little do I need the 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: home field advantage. 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, such a people pleaser. He came back a second 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: time on our podcast. Yeah, and you've taken advantage of it. 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: We're thrilled to have you. 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Last time you were on, I felt like it was 44 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: in the postseason. 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: I think it was in the summer, so we didn't Yeah, 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: we only had a lot of like you know, looking 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: back to do and then a bit for But now 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: we're in the season. What are we about three fourths 49 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: of the way through now? Yeah, and uh, man, I 50 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: hate to say this, but I love to see it. 51 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: I guess your Boston Celtics are freaking me out. They're 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: soaking me out, man, freaking me out. 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: The Celtics are in the midst of what is being 54 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: described as quote, perhaps the most dominant eleven game stretch 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: in NBA history. Yeah, they have the largest point differential 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: over any eleven game stretch in NBA history, seven points 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 3: better than the next best, which was Bucks team with 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: lou Alsander on it, which I believe that that was 59 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: around the time they were like, we got to change 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: the rules. Man, this guy is like too good at basketball. 61 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: So that's like, you guys are better than that team 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 3: where everyone was like, what were I don't even want 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: to be here anymore? This guy is so good. 64 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: They're like, we're so racist. We need to make dunking Yeah. 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly should we just do that? What do we 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 3: do here? Yeah? What about that? Like, what do you 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: just pitches? What pitches were for? Rule changes? 68 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: New legal defenses? You can crouch in the paint and 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: push the offensive player over that guy's and. 70 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 3: That's just hilarious. 71 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: That's just good old, good old fashioned fun. 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know how how has this felt 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: from inside the head of a Celtics fan. 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: I am finally starting to like feel not confident because 75 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: I never feel confident, like as a person or a 76 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: sports fan, but I'm starting to feel like comfortable watching 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: these games and enjoying them and being like, oh, it's 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: been since they lost to the Lakers, who had none 79 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: of their starters playing that I was like, this, they 80 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 4: shouldn't have lost this game, right. They lost a couple 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: of close games, but most mostly they were losing occasionally 82 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: against good teams. And now they're doing the thing that 83 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: I need to do is just beating most good teams 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: and beating the hell out of bad teams. They've got 85 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 4: three fifty point wins this season, which is more than 86 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: any other team in NBA history. 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: Yes, too, that's too many. 88 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: I mean the beating up on the amount of that 89 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: the Celtics have enfranchise. 90 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: His his history, Yeah, and they have within the last 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: six unths. 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: They're beating up on bad teams. But they're also I 93 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: think our last episode, or maybe it was two episodes ago, 94 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: but we were talking about how the Warriors were resurgent, 95 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: yeah and looked really good. Last episode we were talking 96 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: about how the Celtics are like historically great. So the 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 3: Celtics what you know those two it was called the 98 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: Boosties Bowl, you know, the Mad Boostis Bowl. Everyone was 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: like the two teams they talked about in the most 100 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: recent episode what's gonna happen, Like one of them is 101 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: gonna have to win, and the Celtics beat them by 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: fifty two points. It was like, not fair. It just 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: seemed unfair. Again. I like back to the nineteen seventy 104 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: one Bucks. I was like, this, we got to do 105 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: something here about the rule in this an exhibition charity game. 106 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, in fairness to the Bucks, they didn't have 107 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: Brandon Pajemski, so like with him playing, it would totally 108 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: would have been a different game, right, Yeah, completely different, 109 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 4: totally different thing. Yeah, but that was I mean I 110 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: listened to it on the radio. I was baking brownies 111 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: for a little dinner party and I was listening. Yeah, 112 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: it was the next time. I actually I listened the 113 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: whole game on the radio. 114 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: At ESPN Radio dot Com. 115 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I did the local, the NBA l's 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: the local call. So I listened to Mike Gorman and uh, 117 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: Cedric Maxwell, Sewn Sean Grandy and Centric Maxwell. Like Gorman 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 4: did TV. He's about to retire. But it was so 119 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: fun and they were by the third quarter, they were going, well, 120 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: this is about to turn into a podcast, like they 121 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: were just saying that we got nothing more to say 122 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 4: about this. They were forty four at the half, and 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 4: I like, I know sometimes for when it is not 124 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 4: a team that you're interested in, you know, when you're 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: just like, oh, what game is on Thursday night or 126 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: Sunday afternoon, and it's a forty point blowed at halftime, 127 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 4: You're like, well, I guess I won't watch the second half. 128 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: And I kept the whole thing on and was just like. 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: More har right, yes, yes, of course. 130 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 4: Through you, which is like twiddling my fingers together, doctor evil, 131 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: pinky finger to the corner of the lips, just all. 132 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: The rings off the ground, right, Yeah, great, I had 133 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: a great time. Oh man, that's the best feeling in 134 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: the world. 135 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Was what about the expectation, right, because a lot of 136 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: times we're we're getting closer to the postseason, the Celtics 137 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: look amazing, and are you You're fully embracing You're like, 138 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: this is like does it feel different? Are you doing 139 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: the kind of thing You're like, I don't want to 140 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: like put too much, you know, expectation on this because 141 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't want if in case the thing doesn't fall 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: the way I needed to. 143 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: I don't feel you know, I'm not like we're doing it. 144 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: This is the year. But it does feel different in 145 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: the last couple of years. It feels like twenty twenty 146 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: two when they went to the finals, they had a 147 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: terrible first half of the season, great second half of 148 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: the season. This season, they've played uniformly pretty well, with 149 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: a couple bad losses and a couple close losses to 150 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: good teams and then one real blowout against the Bucks. 151 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 4: So it's just like they've they've played uniformly while they're 152 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: playing better than they have all season right now. And 153 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: I kind of feel like if you don't let yourself 154 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: believe at this point, like when do you get to 155 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: you know, and especially and I understand the answer to 156 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: that might be when you win the title, right, And 157 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: if that's your answer, like if you're a Warriors fan 158 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 4: or a Raptors fan that one time or whatever, then 159 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: you can say that. But like, I live around Knicks 160 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: fans and they'll talk, They'll go up ten in the 161 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: first quarter and just be like, this is the greatest 162 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: team of my life life. Yeah, it always a genius 163 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 4: in my biological father. 164 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: That's what I was saying last week. 165 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: Jack, my friend who was like, yo, Jalen Brunts is 166 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: the goat. I was like, that's just how Knicks fans are, like. 167 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: It's like something like. 168 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: This is it, this is it truly respected so much 169 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: as someone who has has lived in you. I've lived 170 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 4: in New York for about almost thirteen years, and I've 171 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: like really come to respect and admire the way New 172 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: Yorkers like anytime there's a glimmer of hope for any 173 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 4: of the teams, they're like, this is the year, right, 174 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: And the Yankees were like straight up bad this year, 175 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: and the Red Sox were worse, but the Yankees were bad, 176 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: and people at the beginning were like, yeah, they were 177 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: just so bad, and then like and they never learn. 178 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: It's like the next year they'll just be like, this 179 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: is the. 180 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: Well because they have like a propaganda TV network in 181 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: MSG and like the Yankee Network. There is a whole 182 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: television network that only shows wins. It just shows you, 183 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: like historic victories by the Yankees, so you could just 184 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: like live there, watch TV and assume the Yankees had 185 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: never lost a game. 186 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: Truly, like watching like the Vladimir Putin news exactly. 187 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have that for sports in New York it's 188 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: such an interesting thing. I don't think it like I 189 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: mean the Lakers like have you know, like there are 190 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: definitely some Laker biased channels and shows out here, but 191 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: there's not just like a closed universe where Yankees Yankee 192 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: Dumb reigns supreme. 193 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting because there's also like that happens in Europe too, 194 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: like Real Madrid and Barcelona to have their own TV 195 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: channels that are twenty four to seven. 196 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: Like Glory Days. 197 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, some teams are just like that, where they're like, 198 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: no man. Sometimes when you get stuck in a positive 199 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: feedback loop forever, which. 200 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: I again I respect because Knicks fans also will go 201 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: straight to despair. But as soon as there is like 202 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: one crumb of hope, they're just at eleven with confidence, 203 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: which I respect. The Knicks win two games in a row, 204 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 4: and every single person in New York City is just 205 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: walking around with the confidence of like Biggy free styling 206 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: and yeah yeah, yeah. 207 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: The guy in the Spider Man suit is out in 208 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: front of MSG Krick walking and stuff. 209 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: They're like, what, Okay, he's getting sturdy. 210 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 211 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: But I will say the Celtics are I think last 212 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: week we were marveling at the fact that the Celtics 213 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: had entered the top ten for not Peer net rating 214 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: of all time, of all time. They're on there with 215 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 3: like Jordan's Bulls, the seventy two win Warriors, like all 216 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: these historically great teams. Since we talked about that last week, 217 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: they've gone to like fourth, I think, or second, depending 218 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: on which net rating you're talking about. They are like 219 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: a historically great team at a time when like there, 220 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: this is not a this is not a year when 221 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: anyone was like, oh, there's not a lot of talent 222 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: in the league. This is like as talented as the 223 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: league has been. There are definitely some teams that are 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: you know that it's not there's not a ton of 225 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: parody like in terms of you know, there are some 226 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: pretty bad teams, but they are They're doing historically great 227 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: in a league that is as stacked as the league 228 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: has ever been. 229 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: And they've had a few games like I think they 230 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: beat the Wizards by four, and they beat they like 231 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: went to overtime and beat the Pistons by two to 232 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: barely extend their losing streak, Like yeah, they were gonna 233 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: be the ones they broke it against, and they barely 234 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: squeaked that game out and then they like close game 235 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: against less until the third quarter one by twenty eight. 236 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: Uh just absolutely ran away from the beginning. 237 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a Scers fan, and we were playing 238 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: you guys tight through the first half, and then it 239 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: was just it was like, oh, you guys were sprinting. 240 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, okay, we're gonna pull away now. But 241 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: that was just sorry, yeah, time to us, to time 242 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: for us, like the effortlessness with which you guys just 243 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: put us away, Like granted without Embiid, but I don't 244 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: know that it matters at this point. 245 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 4: I'm I like, really, I'm genuinely and I don't say 246 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: this in a condesce anyway, I'm genuinely sad that joe 247 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: El Embiid has been out for so long. Like it 248 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 4: I first of all, as a human person who's just 249 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,239 Speaker 4: like in pain every day, that must suck. Like my 250 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: my wife is doing some physical therapy on her knees 251 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: just from like general wear and tear, and like that 252 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: seems miserable. And for him to be like, I can't 253 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: go to work because my my knees are just like 254 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: I'm there's no flesh, I'm just skeleton under my skin. Yeah, 255 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 4: Like that sucks and it's like such a wonderful worthy adversary, 256 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 4: Like I love that clash. 257 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: I don't love that He's like, and I'm coming back 258 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: this year regardless of what a record is. Like, I 259 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 3: love that as like a professional wrestler move. Yeah, they're like, oh, 260 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: he's coming back. It doesn't but for the long term 261 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: health of the seventy six ers and him, I don't 262 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: love that. But I think this is good for the 263 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: NBA too, because I think the whole nation other than 264 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: Boston Celtics fans roots against the Celtics and now true 265 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: like the narratives structure, The narrative structure of this season 266 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: is rocky. For like, we have Ivan Drago in the 267 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: NBA right now. It's the team that everyone doesn't like 268 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: they have. They have actual Ivan Drago in this in 269 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 3: the middle for them, they're like historically like punching the 270 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: punch meter and it's like, you know, going to a 271 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: million pounds and scientists glasses are breaking, which. 272 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: I love that the Nuggets have Bizarro I've been dragging. 273 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: Right yeah yeah, right yeah, sure, like kind of the 274 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: Sylvester Stallone of the NBA like looks Funny doesn't really 275 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: seem to care that much. 276 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Sylvester are still don have like equally thick accents, 277 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: like you here when you're still in duck You're like, 278 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: are you like Italian from Serbia? 279 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: Want to be with my horses? 280 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 4: You know? 281 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: I want to do? Who are you? 282 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: Is there anyone you know looking? 283 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: You know? 284 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: Obviously getting to the finals is step one? 285 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 286 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: Is there anybody you think is going to give you 287 00:14:59,080 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: trouble at this one? 288 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: Because I'm I mean, I think you know Jackson been 289 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: saying for a while it's the Celtics versus the field, probably, 290 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: But is there I. 291 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: Mean, is it the Bucks? 292 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: Is? 293 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: Who is there anyone you look at? 294 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: Obviously you're not going to be cocky, but who do 295 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: you actually like? 296 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: This is one thing I am We really will have 297 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: to rise to the occasion and show a little bit 298 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: of a different dimension from past years to get through 299 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: and get it done. 300 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: I do think it would feel significant to beat the 301 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: Heat this season. I think like there is it feels 302 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: like there's a real narrative that the Heat have like 303 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: dominated the Celtics, which in the past three conference finals, 304 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: the heat of one that they played against each other, 305 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: the Heat of one two the Celtics of one one, 306 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: since it feels like legitimately a rivalry, but Miami Heat 307 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: fans are like, no, we're a yachts row boat. And 308 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: it's like like, let it be a rivalry, like we're 309 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, you guys ruled. It's like, no, 310 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: both can be good and let it that's that's like 311 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 4: what a clash of the Titans are right, you know, you. 312 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: Guys are bad at basketball. Actually turns like. 313 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, leave it alone. Yeah that sucks. 314 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: We're in seventh year in first leave it alone. 315 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well, I mean, and then there's the national 316 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: thing of like the Heats. The Heat have the league 317 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: right where they want them, right on top of them, 318 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: and it's like like, truly, it's what they accomplished last 319 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 4: season was great and I think that that it was 320 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: a pretty crushing Eastern Conference finals, and so I think 321 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: it would be nice to vanquish them. But I think 322 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: the Heat and the Bucks are tough. I like don't 323 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: and you know, famous last words, but like I don't 324 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: have a lot of fear of the Knicks, even at 325 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: full strength. I don't have a lot of fear of 326 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: the Calves, even at full strength at this point, and 327 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: I like can't believe we would live in in a 328 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: physical reality where Joe l Embiid's knee is sufficient to 329 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: like for a deep playoff run this year. 330 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's the Nuggets, right, like yeah, yeah, yeah, 331 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I like, I'm at the point where I'm 332 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: rooting for the Nuggets because I think They're the only 333 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: team that has a chance of beating this help. 334 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: I think the Nuggets have the best chance for sure. 335 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 4: I think it would be a real knockdown, drag out 336 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 4: series with with the Thunder and maybe the woll The Timberwolves, 337 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: I don't. I have a little less confidence in them, 338 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 4: But I just feel like shake Gill, just Alexander is 339 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 4: to this point in the season, he would be number 340 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: one if I had an MVP ballot. 341 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's perfectly fair. 342 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 4: And I will say on the record, I'm a huge 343 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: Jason Tatum fan. I think that, like, should he be 344 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 4: the MVP of the league? Conversation feels like a little manufactured. 345 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: He's just so good. But like, yeah, but I also 346 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: as a hater, as a true Bostonian and hater anyone 347 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: who votes Luka Doncic top two is just absolutely out 348 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: of their mind, Like you can't their team is too bad. 349 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, yeah, sure, the most valuable player. He 350 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: heroically brought the MAVs to a forty six win season. 351 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, with like a ninety eight percent usage, Like yeah, like. 352 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 4: He's amazing at basketball. But it's like, let's be serious. 353 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, amazing highlight reel though, one of the best 354 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: shot makers. Should we take a break and come back 355 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: and talk about how the league is too good and 356 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: we need to make it work good looking at it 357 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 3: so boring all these showing circle and we're back and 358 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 3: I mean just quickly around the league. Bucks also looking good. 359 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: It's kind of getting drowned out by the fact that 360 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: the Celtics have one in eleven in a row, but 361 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: the Bucks you're six and oh post in the Danilo 362 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: Gallinari era, fans are calling, Yeah the gall Lebron James 363 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: put in his forty thousandth point. There was a cool 364 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: computer graphic of every one, like a shot chart of 365 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: every one of his shots going out. That was kind 366 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: of fun to watch. 367 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: Chart. 368 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, more shot charts. 369 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: Might have been Kirk Goldsberg. Someone did a Kaitlin Clark 370 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 4: shot chart and I was like, I'll watch this still 371 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 4: it's done. 372 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, Kaitlyn Clark, I mean broke the 373 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: all time n C DOUBA scoring record topped Pete maravich 374 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 3: uh and is going into the draft this offseason. And 375 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 3: then on the other side of the spectrum, Washington, we 376 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: didn't nobody thought it was possible for somebody to catch Detroit, 377 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 3: but they are now. They now have a worse record 378 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: than Detroit. They're thirty nine and a half games back 379 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: Detroit only thirty nine games back from the Celtics. So yeah, 380 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 3: it's yeah, nine and fifty one versus nine and fifty two. 381 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: I think it's not their year. 382 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: There's still time, right, wasn't Kuzma saying Son is like, 383 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: you don't want to lose to that team. 384 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, it's like that team talking about 385 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: the Detroit losing streak. You're them Well yeah, well, well yeah. 386 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Jordan Poole is having an absolute laugh though. He's having 387 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: a laugh over there. 388 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: All right now the real question. Yeah. Tim Bo Temps 389 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: and Kevin Pelton over on ESPN explored the topic that 390 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: was on all our minds. Have offenses become too good? Yes? Yeah, right, 391 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: Like I come for the missus, I come for the 392 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 3: I come for the rebounding, the box outs. 393 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: My favorite thing, seeing the bag off the heel of 394 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: the rim. 395 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, just straight up. 396 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 4: In the air, when iron sound, when a rebound would 397 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 4: go past the three point line, if no one picked 398 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 4: up what I want to see rebound. 399 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, just like real stiff rebound that fly. 400 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 3: The miss is so much worse than anyone expected it, 401 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: and everyone just kind of like walks out with like 402 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: a little exasperation together. 403 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: Violation. 404 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: Oh man, now you're talking my language, you know, yeah, 405 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: second violations. Love it all. Love. The article is incredible 406 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: because they answer the question like repeatedly because at first 407 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: they're like, you know, some people say it's like a 408 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: rules change. The rules did change back in two thousand 409 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: and four, I think it was, so they've been for 410 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: twenty years, and like the changed. Yeah, well the thing 411 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: is changed, right, the thing that changed. They asked Mike Brown, 412 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: who's been coaching since two thousand and five, and he's 413 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 3: just like, no, everyone's just like way better now. Everyone's 414 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: gotten better, man. Like, the shot making is incredible and 415 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 3: we're getting great NBA players from literally like every country 416 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: on earth. Yeah, yeah, like. 417 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: It's it's also there were like twenty five years of 418 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 4: NBA history where it was just like uncouth to shoot 419 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: three pointers, right right right? 420 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: Oh, certain, yeah, for sure. 421 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: It was just like impolite for a long time, and 422 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: that's why the scores were low. And then people were like, 423 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: maybe we should practice these shots that are worth more points. 424 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: And now they're amazing at it, and it's like, yeah, 425 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: it's incredible. 426 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I don't know if there's anything that could 427 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: be done to like curb today's record scoring. Guys are 428 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: just so freaking good compared to back then that it 429 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: would be tough. It'd be tough. That's Mike Brown being like, 430 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: compared to when I was also an NBA coach, Like 431 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: you know, ten fifteen years ago, guys are just way 432 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: too good at scoring the thing that people come to 433 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: NBA basketball games to see. 434 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: People are shooting the best ever from three point range. 435 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: And these aren't like just open looks, these are like 436 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: contested shots. 437 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: Defense. 438 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're making more free throws. Turnovers are at 439 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: their lowest. 440 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: That's like again like turnovers, they're taking care of the ball, 441 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: they're doing all the things that your high school basketball 442 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 3: coach shouts at you to do, Yeah, make your free 443 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: throws and take care of the ball. They're doing both 444 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: of those things. 445 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: We're running ladders for every turnover. 446 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: No, I think the one proposal that I heard that 447 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: I was like, actually, this sounds kind of good is 448 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: to for the I forget who said it, it. 449 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: Was, it was me earlier, different rights. 450 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 4: For the reps to call games more like the playoffs, 451 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 4: so to let it get a little more physical, and 452 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: I think the one the good thing about that is 453 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 4: it empowers great defenders, because I do like watching great 454 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 4: defenders play defense. But also when there are fewer calls, 455 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: there are fewer replays, so you also thin out the replays, right, 456 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 4: because it's not just like, oh I called a foul. 457 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: Is it a fowl? Is it not? It's like it's 458 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: not a foul and you have no chance to say yeah, sorry, 459 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: yeah yeah. So I'm like yeah, sure, Like that's that 460 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: seems exciting. But outside of that, it's like, let's do 461 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 4: away with the corner threes. 462 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: Why, yeah, right, so that you just can't shoot them anymore? Yeah? 463 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: Why what? What would that even look? Like? The three 464 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: point arc would just end over it. 465 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 4: Just yeah, it would just stop it would be like 466 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 4: a map in the fourteen hundred that there's just dragons 467 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: made it on the corn here there at the end 468 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 4: of the loss. 469 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, like do not go there. 470 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, this is so silly. 471 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean also just on on a continuum. 472 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Like we've said, even from the start of the show, 473 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: players are getting better and better. It's fun to watch 474 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: people get better and better. And not only that, the 475 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: game is becoming more popular around the world and we're 476 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: getting there's just more people. There's just a larger sample 477 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: of people that are getting better and better at basketball, 478 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: and we just benefit from that. I mean, I get 479 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: the thing of like being like, hey, let them play, 480 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: because I do miss those, you know, like nineties playoff basketball, 481 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: But at the same time like seeing some of these performances, 482 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: just like what is going on and how. 483 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: I also think it's not like we're not seeing thrilling 484 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: defense played right, Like right numbers too high is like 485 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: a banana's complaint. Like you watch an All Star game 486 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: and you go, oh, that's what it looks like when 487 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 4: nobody plays defense. Yeah, exactly, Watch Victor wein Banyama play 488 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: and you're like, he's making defensive plays that I've never seen. 489 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: I just watch him play defense. I like pay attention 490 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: to only him on defense. 491 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: Because human body is capable of playing defense like that. 492 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, there there are examples, right, Like 493 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 4: there are teams that are worse at defense. So it's 494 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: not like defense doesn't make a difference in the league. 495 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: Does that make sense? Yeah, Like you watch the the Celtics, 496 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 4: you watch the Timberwolves, the Knicks when they're healthy, and 497 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, yeah, these teams can like lock down 498 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 4: when it's time to lock down. It's just that, like 499 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 4: the level of locking down has has gone up with 500 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: the the you know, the floor is a little higher, 501 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 4: the ceilings a little higher. But like if defense weren't 502 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: a thing that then you there wouldn't be teams that 503 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: were better at it. 504 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, there should be. Making has gotten so good 505 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: that they can lock down less than they used to. 506 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. 507 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 3: Like but they can still they'll still lock down and 508 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: the Yeah, the shot making is just at a different level. 509 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: It's a luxury that they have now. And like that. 510 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: The thing with the playoffs is, yeah, the refs call 511 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: it a little bit differently, but also people are playing 512 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: much more intensely, you know, at a higher level with 513 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: more physicality, because it's like one of you know, sevens, 514 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: it's not one of eighty two. And so it's just 515 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: a change of the mentality. Yeah, but yeah, I truly 516 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 3: I think the thing that people are witnessing is that basketball, 517 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: more than any other sport, is like everyone's getting better 518 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: every season. Like you can just see it, like the 519 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: like I remember watching like basketball in the nineties and 520 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: then like seeing a clip from the eighties and being like, 521 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: who are these guys out there just like running around 522 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: with like the mustaches, you know, guys like in short 523 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 3: shortes with like big knee pads, and like he's just 524 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: doesn't Yeah, there's no athleticism. And then the nineties it 525 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: got better. And now if you look at like today's 526 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: players compared to then, it's just a completely different level 527 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: of everybody being able to make shots, make like more 528 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: difficult shots. It's incredible and it's fun. Like that's what's 529 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: great about the Yeah, yeah. 530 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: Who's ever seen a made basket in the envy had 531 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 4: been like two eies. This is an affront in the 532 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 4: eyes of basketball fans. 533 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: Well, because you have like you know, like you know 534 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: Drew Holliday has said, like, just let us play a 535 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: little bit more physically, yeah, and then I can then 536 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: like you know, cause those are like that's sort of 537 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: like the level of dissent is like people, I don't 538 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: know if people are gonna put up he said, pe 539 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: quote people like to see people get sixty and seventy 540 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: and do all that. How are you going to do 541 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: that if somebody can be physical and be handsy and 542 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: be aggressive in that way. So I personally don't think 543 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: that the balance is there, And that's more of like 544 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: that's more level than people being like completely off balance. 545 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: This is the world's gone ay wire. Like yeah, that 546 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: that's a small tweak. 547 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: And Joe Dumars he's just saying like, yeah, man, a 548 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: lot of people are calling us saying like you need 549 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: to look into this, and he's saying for his sort 550 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: of defense here as quote, it's not to that point 551 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: yet in terms of like looking at what can be 552 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: done specifically from a rules standpoint. It's like, quote, we're 553 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: diving into the data right now, just a ton of 554 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: film and putting together ton of reels to be able 555 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: to look at this and go, okay, yeah, we do 556 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: have a problem, but you don't make changes like that 557 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: just on. 558 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: An anecdotal call, right, Yeah. 559 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: And to his point too, I think he said people 560 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: are like with all these high scoring games, people were like. 561 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: Did you see what Booker did? 562 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: Did you see what Embiid did? 563 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: Did you see? 564 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: Like? 565 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Those are those are the moments that I am texting 566 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: other people about because it is just so different. 567 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, there's some. 568 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: People who cause it don't play defense. 569 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time like, yeah, but I think 570 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: it's cool to see somebody just go out of body 571 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: like that. 572 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like Garl Anthony Town's scoring sixty in a loss, 573 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 4: and it's like they that that's like seventy to win. 574 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 4: There wasn't a Karl Anthony Towns twenty years ago. There 575 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: wasn't like, you know, until like Dirk Nowitsky started shooting 576 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: from distance at that size. It's like that that guy 577 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: just didn't exist in nineteen ninety two, whatever, thirty three, 578 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 4: thirty two years ago. They would have had him on 579 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: the block just like thumping against other guys and some 580 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 4: of them. It's like a beautiful style of basketball. 581 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: And it came from outside of the US, you know. 582 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: Direk was like, oh yeah, what And now we have 583 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: Embiid who's like, what if Shack had the touch of dirt? 584 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: Like shock, oh, Joel Embiid the what he does for 585 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: the myth of you can't shoot free throws because you're 586 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 4: a real. 587 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: Big they're too big. 588 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: So funny, we're just like someone should just make Shack 589 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 4: watch Joel Emband shoot free throws for like an hour 590 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 4: and be like and you couldn't have gotten half this good. 591 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: It's my wrist, okay, the same begands. Yeah, so silly. 592 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: It's it's such a goofy, like it's such an ESPN 593 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: pilled conversation, like you've gone through the looking glass. 594 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: To their defense. I think they knew that because the 595 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: article like just a very clear like has like five 596 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: great arguments. Like it turns out the biggest driver in 597 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: the NBA's recent residents scoring is team's getting smarter about 598 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 3: how to attack defense. It's just like, no, everyone's better 599 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: and smarter and doing exactly what they should do if 600 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: they want to score. 601 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Drew Holiday is also like exactly the guy 602 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 4: who would make that argument right of like, yeah, you 603 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: let me body a guy up and he's not going 604 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: to score seventy times. Yeah, I believe that from him. 605 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 4: He's a guy that like makes his money being just 606 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 4: like an incredible defensive player, and he would be more 607 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: incredible if the rules permitted. But like, do we want? 608 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 4: Is that what we want from. 609 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 3: The least what we need? Yeah? Ah, when you guys 610 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: got through Holiday, I was just like, we're all screwed. 611 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: Let's see, all right, maybe maybe five years. 612 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 4: I was so sad when they traded Marcus Smart. I 613 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: was in I remember where it was. I was in 614 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: Oklahoma City and I was like on a in a 615 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 4: hotel room and I was just like, oh man, I'm 616 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 4: sad about this team. It's it's like the end of 617 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: an era. And then they got through Holiday and I 618 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 4: was like, or he's really filled the Marcus Smart shaped 619 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 4: hole in my heart as they say where I'm from, 620 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: the Marcus Smart shaped hole in my hat? 621 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, smart shaped hole in the hot amazing. Let's uh, 622 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: should we take a break and come back and put 623 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: Josh through the gauntlet? Yeah the yeah, that's what you think. 624 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: And then already come at you. 625 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: Got some got some tough ones party, John. 626 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: We'll be right that. 627 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: Dan. 628 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: We're back, I've heard Miles say, And we're back before, 629 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: but not liking his chops. 630 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: Right, he's at playoff intensity. 631 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 3: Like this in a little right now. I've never seen 632 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 3: them like this. Josh. 633 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: We love you, man, We love you, but it's time 634 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: to cook you in the fourth quarter. It's the rapid 635 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: fire round of questions, the fastest question answer segment of 636 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,239 Speaker 1: all sports podcasting history on NBA Podcasts, hosted by two 637 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: guys who also do a daily show about news and politics. 638 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: Okay, very specific category, but we do in that category 639 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: top three. I mean to be fair, Yeah, exactly, that's right. 640 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: So we are too. Okay, So here we go. 641 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: In the league. It sounds just say South francey. 642 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: The south of Boston. 643 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm from the south of Yeah, south from 644 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 4: the south of Boston. 645 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: Now get ready, Josh, We're gonna ask you a question. 646 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: Just don't think respond, reply rapidly so we can maintain 647 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: our crown of being in the top three. Okay, here 648 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: we go. You've done it before, so I don't have 649 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: to tell you anything. But I do have to tell. 650 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 4: Brian start the clock. 651 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Brian, just do what he says. Yeah, got a 652 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: crazy all right, he did it, he did it, he 653 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: did it. He's got it. He's got it. Okay, what 654 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 3: do you want? Do you want to start first? You 655 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 3: want to start first? 656 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 4: Want to start first? 657 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, here's an easy one. 658 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 2: We're talking nineties throwback jerseys. 659 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: Okay, you can pick three of these nineties throwbacks to 660 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: preserve forever. What are your top three nineties throwbacks from 661 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: this image? 662 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: We are going Sonics obviously for posterity. 663 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: Then Gary Peyton Sonics yep, yep, Yah Friday Nineties yep. 664 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 3: We are in orbit around the Sonics logo. 665 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it rules. We are going Sons, incredible basketball sons 666 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: streaking across the jersey. Yes. 667 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 3: And this guy likes basketballs and his logos. 668 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. And then we're switching it up. Charlotte Hornets Classics 669 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 4: starter jacket colors. 670 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Larry Johnson Charlotte horn Its colors. 671 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: That was honestly such an iconic era, like aesthetically in 672 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: the NBA, like when that when that team was out, 673 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: I remember buying like every pair of Converse like I 674 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: used to be a Nike head. But Grandmama, that blew 675 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: my mind. I was like, Mom, I need cons with React. 676 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 4: Juice, cos I need cons with the React juice, the 677 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: regular ones, the juice in these cons What the heck? 678 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: This ain't react juice. 679 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 4: This is sunning here. 680 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 3: I know this one. 681 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: It's fits the fruit punch one. 682 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 3: We got purple stuff, react juice. What do you want 683 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: all about the react? Yeah? I never fully understood the promise, 684 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 3: the physics that were implied by react juice. It was like, 685 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 3: I go this way, the juice goes the other way. 686 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: It balances you out and allows you to react. Yeah, 687 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 3: don't worry, we were It's you know how you play 688 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: your best basketball when your shoes are wet? Yeah, just 689 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: imagine that the heaviness. Yeah, exactly. 690 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: You ever been in the rain and your your shoes 691 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: get soaked down to the insole and then you walk. 692 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 3: Out there in reaction juice converse, react juice. Just a 693 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 3: clip of Larry Johnson dunking with like a squaw sound? 694 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 3: Does he take? 695 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: So? 696 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: All right? We got some more likely to happen for you, 697 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 3: our patented more likely to happen. Second more likely to happen? 698 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: And why Orlando Magic Eastern Conference Finals run or the 699 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: Cleveland Calves Eastern Conference Final run. 700 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 4: Cleveland Calves Eastern Conference Finals run, But neither one's gonna 701 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 4: happen yeah. 702 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the correct answer. 703 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, okay, Thunder or Wolves Western Conference Final run. 704 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: I think Thunder, Yeah, I think is the best player 705 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 4: on either of those teams. 706 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, she is so good. 707 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 2: You see the loose to the Lakers. 708 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys got that what they 709 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: lost to the don't if you saw that to the Lakers. 710 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did think. And Miles, you were proposing 711 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: a rule. You were saying enough like the offense the 712 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: offensive defensive balance is fine? Yeah, world chance and just 713 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: a just an idea that you're spitball in here. But 714 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 3: do you want to pitch it to Josh. 715 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like it's it's called like the warrior logic 716 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: of the ancient times, which is you assume the position 717 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: in the standings of the team you beat. 718 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 4: Oh sure, kind of like Mega man, you steal their 719 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 4: power exactly. Thank you. I think that's fine. 720 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: I Rockaman for my Japanese listeners. 721 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: Yes, I thought you were going to say, any player 722 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 4: who is thirty nine and over, they get an extra 723 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 4: point five point every bad. 724 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, we don't need to encourage that. 725 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to say this and curse the Lakes. 726 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: But it is interesting to me that of all the 727 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 3: teams in the top net rating top ten, uh, the 728 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 3: only ones that didn't win the title were beat by 729 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 3: Lebron James. Jeames. 730 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you know, he's really good. 731 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: He's still pretty good. 732 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: He's good when he wants, he's good when you he 733 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: can be. Yeah, that's we just needed to be a 734 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 2: little more consistent. 735 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: Anyway, it's not about them, it's about you. Who's more 736 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: likely to happen? What's more likely to happened to? 737 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: Why? 738 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: Tatum finals MVP or Jokic second finals MVP. 739 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 4: Oh? I think Jokic second finals MVP because I think 740 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 4: that there's a better chance that if the Celtics win, 741 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 4: it could be one of a couple guys. And I 742 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: think if the Nuggets win, it's Jokic. Yeah, I see, 743 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 4: I see, okay, Okay, that's fair. The Celts are stacked. 744 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 4: How you say stacked? 745 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 3: How you say. 746 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 4: That's still yeah? 747 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 3: How you say, uh, what is the one moment or 748 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 3: game from NBA history you wish Twitter had been around for? 749 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 4: Oh man, that's a great question. One game from NBA history? 750 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 4: I think what's like a maybe the Rudy tom Janovic punch. 751 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 4: Oh my god, maybe that or or you know what, 752 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 4: I think the greatest. I think this would have sent 753 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 4: New York City, like New York City's power would have 754 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 4: gone out from all the tweets. Is Stark stunking over Jordan? 755 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, New York and just exploding. 756 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 3: It's been so long since they've been good that, Like, 757 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: I that's a really good point. Like that's gonna be 758 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 3: a whole social media event when they're making finals runs 759 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: like yeah, oh yeah, oh my god, yeah, insufferable. 760 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 4: Oh, it's gonna be so bad. 761 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: Who's the most underrated NBA social media follow. 762 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 4: Oh that's a good question. I'm not. I don't follow 763 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 4: a ton of players. I do think. I do love 764 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 4: both art, but maked sports and NBA. I think NBA 765 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 4: dats is great. Yeah. 766 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 767 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 4: I have the Jason Potato hat where it's Jason Tatum 768 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 4: as little Potato. I almost got my dad. The Derek 769 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 4: Walter white hoodie was just Derek front of the band 770 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 4: from Breaking Bad. 771 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 3: With the shaved head. 772 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 4: Now obviously I think this is pre shaved head. 773 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, Yeah that's a better yeah right ye, 774 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: just his little flat top with around it Eisenberg. 775 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it should they should have one of him chasing 776 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 4: down opposing player that says I am the one who blocks. 777 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 3: That would be pretty I'm in. 778 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: I like that. 779 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 3: I like that. That's I hope they're listeners. I mean 780 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 3: they probably are. We are the number two NBA. 781 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm already selling it on red Bubble now. I just 782 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: designed to what's for sale now? Yeah, look for my 783 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: red Bubble store. 784 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 3: All right, NBA player who is not Blake Griffin that 785 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 3: could have a comedy career. 786 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 4: You know who's been I'm trying. I've been really thinking 787 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 4: about whether this guy's funny or he's just on a 788 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 4: heater right now. Luke Cornett, Lake Cornett, he he like hit, 789 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 4: he hit a shot and then did this weird like 790 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 4: celebration where he was just kind of like karate chopping 791 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 4: his face and then he recently they talked about this 792 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 4: on No Dunks Today, but Celtics Twitter was a buzz 793 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 4: about it the other day that they were like favorite 794 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 4: movie villain, like one of those like in Arena pro 795 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 4: like Little Bumpers, and Luke Cornett went personal trauma from 796 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 4: Goodwill on Oh my God, She's so funny. 797 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 3: That's really good. 798 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm kindad. I made a mental note 799 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 4: today to be like, I get to reach out to 800 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 4: my sources to see if he's really funny, right right? 801 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 3: Oh man, okay, cents, well know uh, Boosty's listeners will 802 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 3: know Lou Cornett from the inventor of the Cornett Contest, 803 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 3: which I think I haven't seen as much of it 804 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 3: this season, but I feel like we're going to start 805 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 3: seeing it come back because web Bingama is going to 806 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 3: use it to actually blockshot somehow. 807 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, from the paint mister Burns blocking out the sun. 808 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 809 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: Houser did it in the game against the Warriors, I think, 810 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: and then shout it out Cornett after so funny. 811 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a thing. That's the thing. That's what you 812 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 4: showed when you say. 813 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 3: It used to be kobeb but now it's Cornette cold 814 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 3: straight up. 815 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 4: Okay. 816 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,919 Speaker 2: And this is a real important question, Josh. 817 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: You're on a life raft in the sea and you 818 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: come upon Jason Tatum and Bill Russell in the water. 819 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: They need help, but you. 820 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: Can only fit one more person in the raft. 821 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 3: Who are you saving? Look? 822 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 4: Bill Russell's playing dancer long behind him as wow as 823 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 4: he did pass away a couple of years ago. Wow, 824 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 4: he is an American civil rights icon, so I think 825 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 4: it has to be. And he's an older man, less 826 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 4: good at swimming somewhere, you go. It's assuming he's. 827 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 3: Still alive at all swim. Yeah. 828 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got that. 829 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 3: He's going to fight in him. 830 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 4: Yeh, he's playing those thirty eight minutes a game. You 831 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 4: can swim, Bill wrestle gets in the raft gets you 832 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 4: or nine rings in eleven years gets you in the raft, 833 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 4: or eleven and. 834 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 3: Thirteen gets you in the raft. 835 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. 836 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 3: That's fair. 837 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to design that question to really really 838 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: put a twist. How about this, What if it were 839 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: Twan or Paul Pierce? 840 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's I think I'm taking the truth. Yeah, okay, 841 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,959 Speaker 4: he's God, he's such a funny figure around the league 842 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 4: where he just goes to Celtics regular season games like 843 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 4: like a twenty two year old at his old high school. 844 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, you know where I am. Yeah this 845 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 2: was Paul Pierce. Yeah, yeah, that's me. 846 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like one of the best to ever play 847 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 3: for our team. Yeah yeah, I just wanted to make sure. 848 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 3: Yeah my jacket, yep, what was The best anecdote we 849 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 3: got from Doc Rivers' brief break from coaching was when 850 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 3: he was talking about how the Celtics coaches when Paul 851 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 3: would get on the team bus with the sunglasses on, 852 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 3: they would be like, oh, no, Pierre's here, which meant 853 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 3: like he'd gone out the night before, like he was 854 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 3: not going to be very good. 855 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 4: Pierre documentary about over called Pierre up there. 856 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 3: The Pierre up there. Josh gondle Man. Yeah, what a 857 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 3: pleasure in the books. Thank you so much for doing it. 858 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 3: Where can people have me? Where can people find you? 859 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 3: Follow you, see you all that good stuff. 860 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 4: I'm at Josh Gondleman across social media Josh Gondleman dot 861 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 4: com for tour dates. I'm going all over the country, 862 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 4: coming up Bloomington, Indiana, next to the New Orleans shooting 863 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 4: a special in Brooklyn June twenty first tickets so available 864 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 4: for LeHo and I do a weekly newsletter called That's Marvelous. 865 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 4: That is it's free, you can sign up for it. 866 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 4: It's full of pep talks and sometimes I talk hoops. 867 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 4: But I think a lot of people get bored when 868 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: I do that, So. 869 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, here, come back and do that with us because 870 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 2: I appreciate. 871 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 4: This is such a pleasure as allways, and make. 872 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: Sure you follow the hashtag mad boostis b w sd 873 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: I e s for show links updates. 874 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 2: You can follow me on Twitter at Miles of Gray. 875 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 3: I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien, and that's going to do 876 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,959 Speaker 3: it for us. Another one in the books. Many they said, 877 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 3: I mean more than anything. They said yes, they said 878 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 3: we couldn't make it to one hundred episodes. They definitely 879 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 3: said no chance one hundred and three. Well look at us. 880 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 2: Now and another banner, Doctor Carter, you were wrong all 881 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: right for us? See you next week or we'll hear 882 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 2: you next week. Take care, bye, yo, Kiah, you want 883 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 2: to come out here. 884 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: M