1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod, which Teddy Mellencamp and cam 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Ridge Edge. 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: All right, so I am back with my co host 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: of Today because Tam is still in the dang hospital, 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: still doesn't need surgery, so that's great. But Emily and 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: I will be Emily and I. Who am I right? 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: That's correct, Emily and Okay, Emily and I will be 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: recapping Real Housewives of New York and Real Housewives Assault 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: Lake City. 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: Let's start with New York. Yes, So it starts off, 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: which it's pretty much. I love these episodes where it's 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: everybody just recapping people on what they missed because they 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: had COVID or they were in Scotland or whatever it is. 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: So that was the first half of the episode. But 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: Jessel tells Jenna that she and Pavitt finally did the 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: deed Side tells Aaron on FaceTime that it took Jessel 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: twenty five minutes to warm up down there. Okay, My 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: question for you is, are the women too invested in 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: Jessel's sex life? How much interest would you have if 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: you were on the cast? 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I do find it interesting, and I do 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: feel like when you're on a show, you're on a cast. 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: You're talking about your life, you're talking about your sex life. 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: I feel like you're opening the door for other people 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: to comment and have conversations about it. So I don't 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: have a problem with that. I guess my real question is, 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: did she really not have sex for that long and 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: then when she's filming a TV show they finally had sex? 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: Like I just have a hard time wrapping my brain 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: around that. 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: Well, I just kind of think she should get shirts 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: made for all the women that say Jessel and Povet 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: And all I got was this T shirt. 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah that's good. 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: I mean I like that too, Like or I just 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you can start to suspend your belief 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: and be like, Okay, maybe it just forced them to 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: start talking about it, because I'm sure when she first 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: brought it up, it wasn't a fully planned that it 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: was going to have such a big reaction, and then 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: once it did, yea, it became this whole to do. 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: So basically they got like pressured into having sex. They 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: were like, we have to, like it's tough for the 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: season's over, Yeah, for the finale episode, we have to 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: have sex. 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: Yes, They're like, in some way, somehow you're going to 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: get it in, but also which leads me to the 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: next question about warming up down there? 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 4: What does that mean? I don't. 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: Some people really need a lot of foreplay. I am 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: not necessarily one of those people. As long as you're 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: just nice to me and we're connected in some capacity. 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, whata'ts your foreplay? You just want like like 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 4: a candy bar and like you look pretty and you're 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: good to go like this, bring me a package of 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 4: twizzlers and tell me I'm hot. 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: Like like I don't like I Essentially, I just don't 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: want you to just stick it in, but I don't 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: need much more than that, like you look hot today, 60 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: or like something as simple as. 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: I found my iPad. Yeah, so like hot, Yeah. 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: That's so hot, or like Teddy, thanks for finding my iPod, 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: iPad I wrote my iPod. It's now eighteen years ago. 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: Thanks for finding my iPad. I appreciate you. I love you. 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: Good to go, let's go. So I do wonder what 66 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: kind of warm up one takes, Like is it a 67 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: fitness warm up? 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: Is it is it like callis tenex where you're like stretching, 69 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: you're like doing squads or does. 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: It mean that he had to like go down on 71 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: her for twenty five minutes. 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't even picture that because he 73 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: seems very interested in just like sandwiches and champagas. 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't picture him like putting in that kind 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: of work and for twenty five minutes. Like like my playlist, 76 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: My sex playlists are like eighteen minutes long, and those. 77 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: Wait, what's on your sex playlist? Like what songs? 78 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: I already gave so much? They're like the world's cheesiest 79 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: songs like party and say oh, I like like guns n' roses, 80 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: like every rose has a thorn. 81 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, like the eighties like ballads, 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: like eighties rock ballads. Yeah, that's good sex music. 83 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: And like, I'm pretty much fine with anything as long 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: as it's not super emotional, I'm good to go. But 85 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: then Side tells Aaron that Pavit is going to Vietnam 86 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: for twenty four hours to rack up his flyer points. 87 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 3: Aaron says, when you add that to the lack of sex, 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: it makes things strange. 89 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: Do you think it? 90 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: Cy and Aaron are trying too hard to insinuate the 91 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: pavits cheating. 92 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 4: You know, I honestly previous to this episode, was kind 93 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: of on board with the whole like that's weird that 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: he's flying to Vietnam and they haven't had sex for 95 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: two years, and it kind of makes things seem strange, 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 4: and maybe he's getting a happy ending or something in Vietnam. 97 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. But then after this episode, 98 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 4: they just reminded me so much of Shane and me, like, 99 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: I think Pom, it's just like Shane, Like I feel 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: like he's just like he doesn't really feed into the 101 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: whole filming or the other women. I don't think he 102 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: really cares, and I think they have a really solid relationship. 103 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: I actually really liked them this episode, and I thought 104 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: that they have such a grounded and good relationship that 105 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: I was like, she doesn't care that he's falling. I 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: wouldn't care if Shane wanted to fly somewhere and get 107 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 4: a sandwich. Like he's not cheating on me. I'm one 108 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: hundred percent sure of that it's not happening. I mean, 109 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: there are certain things. 110 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: That I care about, Like there are certain trips that 111 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: I would not particularly love, like I think it's this well, 112 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: it's not even trips like if Edwin picked up golf, 113 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: I'd be really freaking annoyed because not because of cheating, 114 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: but because golf is a really long sport. And I 115 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: think it, I mean because he's gone all day, all day, 116 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: like on a Sunday, Like men who play golf are 117 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: not like, that's not. 118 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: My love language. 119 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: So you like, he needs like a short hobby, a 120 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: short hobby like like air hockey. 121 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: Yes, if he wants like in and out, if he 122 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: wants to go play an hour and a have pickleball game, 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. But if he wants to do 124 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: a full golf game. 125 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: You know what, that's a lot of hours and you 126 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 3: already work a lot. 127 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: That's an annoying. But if he wanted to fly to 128 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: go get a sandwich, I and I also think the 129 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: sandwich thing is taken out of context. I do think. 130 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: I mean as I said, and watch what Happens live 131 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: like they are trying to do something with the mileage. 132 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: It does come up. 133 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. 134 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm not rich enough for that. I even have that 135 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: type of mileage. I'm just like flying Spirit airlines. 136 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: All right. Well, he did make a reel to explain 137 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: the airline situation, because I didn't really understand it, and 138 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: I kept asking Shane questions last night. I was like, 139 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 4: I don't get it. It's a voucher, Like if there 140 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: was COVID, he has to use it. It was fifteen 141 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: thousand dollars, but he got it for nine hundred. I'm confused. 142 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: So apparently Pobitt made a reel explaining it, and it 143 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: was just basically like something like he got a deal 144 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 4: on a first class flight that's normally fifteen thousand, but 145 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 4: he paid nine hundred with any got canceled because of COVID, 146 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: but now he can use it, but he doesn't know 147 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: exactly when he can use it. It's just whenever there's 148 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 4: like an extra seat, so you're just kind of waiting, 149 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 4: like on standby. It's like a. 150 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: Groupon for a flight to Vietnam. Yeah, like something like that, 151 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: And so it's going to expire at some point, right. 152 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: And so he has to use it. And I think 153 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: that's why she didn't really know the date, Like he's 154 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: probably like, Oh, if a seat opens up, i'll go 155 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: next week. So then she kills her friends, Oh he's 156 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: going to go next week. But I don't think she 157 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: was lying. I think she just really didn't care. 158 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, whenever he's gonna go, he's gonna go. Then Aeron, 159 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: of course, is hosting a couple's night and the group 160 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: asks Pavit why he's going to Vietnam. Pavit says he 161 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: likes to get away and uses miles. Jessel says she 162 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: has never had friends so invested in her husband's travel schedule. 163 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: Do you think the husbands are getting too involved with 164 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: Pavit in Jessel's relationship the. 165 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: Husband, yeah, like because they're all now saying like, well, 166 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: that would mean that I'm this, that would mean I'm 167 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: doing that. 168 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: I think these husbands in this episode may have been overserved. 169 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: Touch. 170 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. I just the way I took it was I 171 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: thought they were just having fun and making jokes, and 172 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: I felt like he was just playing along with it too. 173 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't really think they think he's cheating 174 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: on her or anything like that. So I just felt 175 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: like they just had some drinks and they were just 176 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: making fun. 177 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: Like Also, I'm not I didn't take it. 178 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: I don't think it's that deep, Like it's it's not 179 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: that deep. 180 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: But then Si tells Jessel that she was offended at 181 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: their lunch when she brought up PSI's mom. Jessel says 182 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: she thought her experience with her uncle would relate to Si. 183 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: Si says she wants Jessel to be real and honest. 184 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: Jessel says she has never lied. SI says, you lied 185 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: when Paven was going to Vietnam. Jessel says she is 186 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: over this mean girl shit. SI says, you make no 187 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: sense when you speak, and you never answer questions. Do 188 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: you think that SI's frustrated with Jessel is like unwarranted 189 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: or do you think SI's just irritated that she brought 190 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: up her mother in the first place and is having 191 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: to re talk about it over and over again. 192 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: I really don't think it's justified. I actually felt badly 193 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: for Jessel. I felt like Si was just trying to 194 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: find any opportunity to jump on her and jump down 195 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 4: her throat. And then she kept saying, I didn't want 196 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: to go to lunch with you anyway. I didn't want 197 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: to be there. And I don't know, I just thought 198 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: it was I thought it was mean. 199 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: I you know, I did I find myself missing when 200 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: Si just complained about food. 201 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I liked that better. I don't know. I felt 202 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: badly for Jessel. I felt like she did want to 203 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: have lunch. She showed up forty five minutes late. She 204 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 4: didn't want to have lunch on time, but she didn't 205 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: want to have lunch. No, but she's like, I was 206 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: just like fifteen minutes late. 207 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: But Si saying she doesn't put it air after bringing 208 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: up the subject. 209 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: Is very much the same as like a troll who 210 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: comes on to post on like your Instagram and then 211 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: says nobody cares. 212 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: Well, clearly you do because you're here. 213 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you follow me idiots? Yeah, Like so I 214 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 4: like the people that always like like, they'll comment something 215 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 4: like you're irrelevant, and then I'll look and they follow me, 216 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: and I'm like, you're stupid. Then why are you following me? 217 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 4: Why are you following me and commenting and then telling 218 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: me I'm irrelevant? 219 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: It makes no sense. But then then they're at this couples, 220 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: which I found also interesting that this couple's place was 221 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: called Swingers. I didn't realize at first when they said swingers, 222 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: I was like, I got all perked up, and then 223 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, it's like a golf reference. Yeah, 224 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: mini golf, Uba says. 225 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: Ask the guys why they thought their wife was the one. 226 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: But the part that I also found confusing was everyone's 227 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: real rapped up about Pavitt's answer. But Pavitt's answer was 228 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: kind of the same as Abes. I actually thought it 229 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: just seemed yeah, I did one extra line in, but 230 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: pretty much like I want to live a good life, 231 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: have fun with my person. 232 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 4: Blah. I don't know. But after here, I took it 233 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: as I thought it was very I thought it was 234 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: a compliment. I thought he made a I mean, he 235 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: didn't say his best friend, but the way I took 236 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 4: it was like he married someone who was like his 237 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: best friend that he has fun with. They have children together, 238 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 4: and she lets him. And when he said she lets 239 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: me do what I want. I didn't take it as 240 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: like she like, I go out and cheat on her 241 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 4: and she ignores it. I took it as she doesn't 242 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: try to make him into someone he isn't like. She 243 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: lets him be him. He's a little quirky, he's a 244 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: little odd, but she she lets him be. 245 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: That, you know. 246 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: And then I also I've realized in this moment when 247 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: you see like Aaron's face with Abe and also Siz's husband, 248 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 2: like they're all at this point, they're all tuned in 249 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 2: and I feel like all their intends are up and 250 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: they're so excited to point out that Pavet and Jessla 251 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: are having issues, so like there's not going to be 252 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: any conversation about, you know, hearing from Aaron an Abbe 253 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: that they are considering threesomes or any of these other 254 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: things that have been discussed. 255 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: Well, poor Papa, he was just in a position where 256 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: it was a lose lose. I mean, he could have 257 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: said Jessel's the most beautiful woman I've ever seen, and 258 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: they would have been like, oh, he's making that up. 259 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: He's just saying that to cover up for the fact 260 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: that he's flying to Vietnam. 261 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: But he's not wearing his wedding ring, even if he 262 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 2: hasn't worn it since after three weeks after they got married. 263 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 4: And Shane's never worn a wedding ring either, Just to 264 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: throw that out there, not one time in the fifteen 265 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 4: years we've been married. And I'm not worried the least bit. 266 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: Well Edwin lost his when we first got married. 267 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: He threw it. 268 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 2: He was throwing a folk at you. No, he was 269 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: throwing a football at my dad's house and the ring 270 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: fell off, and I cried and thought it was bad luck. 271 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: And then my little brothers had to go out with 272 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: like a little like gold minder and find the ring. 273 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: Like so, I'm weird about the wedding rings. I want 274 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: a wedding ring on. 275 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: But I think it's one thing if you wear a 276 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 3: wedding ring for a year and then you decide. 277 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: Not to, I think, yeah, that's you know, that's different. 278 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: But I think if you if your husband has never 279 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: worn a wedding ring, that's a decision that you make 280 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: from the beginning. 281 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, he never has. It's never been an issue. But 282 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: what was povits? He had it and he lost it. 283 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: He lost two weeks after they got married. 284 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and how long have they been together? 285 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. They've been best friends forever. 286 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: But do you think that this is the same that 287 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: Aaron that got pissed that Brend used the words divorce 288 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: at her Valnule is the Aaron who is insinuating someone 289 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: else's marriage is in trouble. 290 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I thought Aaron was the instigator. Like I 291 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 4: liked how she was. I mean, no, I didn't like, 292 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: but I found it interesting how she was listening to 293 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: the whole conversation, but then she just kept saying like, 294 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: I agree with Cy, I'm sighting with Cy. I'm like 295 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 4: she was team Sigh, no matter what happened or what 296 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: anybody said. 297 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then but then we get to we get 298 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: past this this meal which Uba is now showing Si 299 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: her boyfriend, which she's not showing to the other girls, 300 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: and just to show what a good secret keeper Siah 301 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: is or whatever it is. And then we have to 302 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: sit down between bren and Jenna and Jessel and Povet, 303 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: which is the recap because of the COVID in the 304 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: Scotland's and Povett just immediately sits down and says something 305 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: a guy would would naturally just say, which is like 306 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: that she's bipolar. Yes, And then all the women panic 307 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: because they're like, oh, you can't say that. But then 308 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: Brenn says that Aaron told her that Povet wasn't wearing 309 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: his ring. Jessel's you know all of it. I mean, 310 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: if you were on this cast, what would your response 311 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: be to Aaron in sized constant involvement in Jessel's marriage. 312 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: I think they just don't like Jessel. 313 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: I agree, I think they don't like Jessel, and I 314 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: think they're just going hard for her at any opportunity 315 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: they can find to dig at it or to you know, 316 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: make it, try to twist it, make it look bad, 317 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: make it look like there's marriage problems. They just they 318 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 4: take it. But you know, I mean, Aaron was mad 319 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: about somebody mentioning divorce and she got so pissed about that. 320 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: But she's I mean, they're constantly, you know, trying to 321 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: tear down Jessel's marriage, which I think is worse. I'd 322 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: rather have someone just make it, make one comment, like 323 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: a joke, like ha ha, let me know when you 324 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: get divorced. I mean I would take that over someone 325 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: consistently repeatedly tearing down my marriage every time I'm around them. 326 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you in this moment, you actually see 327 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: Jessel get emotional, like it's starting to hit her like 328 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: as much as she's And I think that Jenna is 329 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: being a good friend to Jessel, like she's saying to 330 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: her things like listen, you don't have to find things 331 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: to relate to these other girls about like you're trying 332 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: to find a connection where there's not a connection. And 333 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: I think all she's. 334 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: Trying to find a connection and the other person has 335 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: to reciprocate or there's no there's no connection, right, And 336 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: if they're not gonna reciprocate, you're never gonna make a connection. 337 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: So at some point you have to just back out. 338 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: You have to just back out. And and I think 339 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: Bred made a good point. She's like, I guarantee if 340 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: one time Jessel stood up for herself in a dramatic way, 341 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: then Cy would probably start kissing Jessel's ass. But the 342 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: fact that she knows she can string her along and 343 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: make her feel like shit is you know, well, that's 344 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: pretty much. That's that's New York. Let's take a little 345 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: break and then we'll come back and we'll talk about 346 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. All right, so we are back to 347 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: talk about all things Salt Lake City. I recently just 348 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: saw Angie when I was at the horse show and 349 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: she was there. 350 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: She was there her daughter rides. So she had on 351 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: the goggles, the pink ones. 352 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: Yeah it's her welding. Yeah, her like she's going to 353 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: put together a steel building. Later, she had them on. 354 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: She said she was going to send us some for 355 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: the pod. And I was like, well, don't sleep on that, 356 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: because we need them. Before this wearon's over, we will 357 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: wear them. 358 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 3: It starts off, where Angie pulls Meredith aside to address 359 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 3: the rumors about her husband. Meredith says she has no 360 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: idea what Angie is talking about, but there are rumors. 361 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: Angie says that Meredith has gone after every marriage in 362 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: the group, but she is the only one spreading her 363 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: legs outside of her marriage. Heather says she's heard the 364 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: rumor before, and you taught people always say male hair 365 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: dresses are gay. 366 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: If a guy wears a cart again, they think he's gay. 367 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: How do you feel about how so I'm using a 368 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: gay husband. 369 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: Rumor on the show. That was a lot of questions 370 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: in there, and that's okay. First of all, I like 371 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: Meredith's statement. What was it? I didn't hear any rumor 372 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 4: or No, what did she say? I didn't say any rumors, 373 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 4: but I heard this or something. I mean, she could 374 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 4: contradict say it again. Essentially, what mereth is saying is 375 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: I said I heard rumors. I didn't say what they were, right, Yeah, 376 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 4: which is worse. Which is always worse to me. I know, 377 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: I told you we talked about this before. I can't 378 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: stand that, you know, I had to deal with that 379 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: last season, with the whole someone said something about you, 380 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: but I'm not going to tell you what they said, 381 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: because you know, I just keep it in the vault. 382 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: But it's like, then you've got two choices, either say 383 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: what it is or shut up, Like I hate that 384 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: middle intermediary. I'm still a good person because I'm not 385 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 4: telling you exactly what it was. So I guess that's 386 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 4: Meredith's position, is like I just threw it out there 387 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 4: to everybody that there's rumors, but I didn't actually say 388 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: what the rumor is. But Monica had no problem saying 389 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: the rumor over and over, and that reminds me what 390 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: you said about Sutton, where like her face lights up 391 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: when she says something I felt like that was Monica. 392 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 4: She's like, well she I heard, Well let me tell 393 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 4: you what it was. I mean, how many times did 394 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: you repeat it? I mean she must have said it 395 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 4: four times. 396 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think it essentially went like this. It's like 397 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: Mereth said that when she was the rumors, and she 398 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: was all, I like how she says rumors. I know, 399 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: so Meredith set it up. But then Whitney took the 400 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: ball and essentially went gave a little softball to Monica, 401 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: and then Monica headed out of the ballpark, like I 402 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: think it okay, but then the effort it was. 403 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: It was the team effort on everyone's part, except for 404 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: Lisa Barlowe, who's just happy that everybody's there having a 405 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: good time. She's like, but okay. So how did Monica 406 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: know the rumor? Did Meredith tell Monica or is this 407 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 4: just something Monica heard on her own in Salt Lake, 408 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: just independently, not from Meredith. That's my question. 409 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: All I know for certain is what's not a rumor 410 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: is that Mary is so rude to all service staff. 411 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: I can't even take it. 412 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: I know, you know know what I'm over Mary. I 413 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: found her slightly amusing in like the first couple episodes 414 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 4: and now when she wanted pizza and it's a go 415 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 4: box at somebody's party and she didn't understand why they 416 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 4: didn't have a box, and then they were trying to 417 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 4: explain they didn't want to touch it and said, you're 418 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 4: just like lazy, what a root? Oh man? Can they 419 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 4: just get rid of her already? And then she wasted 420 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 4: an outfit and then she wanted to know where the food. 421 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: She's just terrible. 422 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: It really is getting me to a bad place. There's 423 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 2: always going to come up when a guy is a 424 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: hairdresser that they're going to be gay. There's always going 425 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: to be And I don't. 426 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: Think I don't think that's mutually exclusive to Utah either. 427 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: I think people just always. 428 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: It's a generalization. 429 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: It's just a it is a generalization. Yeah, but no 430 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: matter what state you live in. 431 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: Right. 432 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: But I think the scene between Angie and Sean where 433 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: she tells him, I think this was actually a brilliant 434 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: scene and the fact that Sean didn't get upset that 435 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: somebody called him gay. He got upset at the infidelity portion. 436 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: And this is where this couple really won me over 437 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: because it really was about, like you are saying that 438 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: I am not. 439 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: Being faithful to my wife, right, And that's the root 440 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 4: of the issue. It's not someone questioning my sexuality, because 441 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 4: let's be honest, every housewife, every house husband that comes 442 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 4: on a housewife. Shane's gotten called gay so many times. 443 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 4: He's gay, I see it constantly. But the issue is 444 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 4: is when you're insinuating that he's having extra marital affairs, 445 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: regardless of sexual identity, that has nothing to do with it. 446 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 4: He's hurt and upset because someone's making rumors that he's 447 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: cheating on his wife, and that's the problem. 448 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: And that's what the other women are so out of touch. 449 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 4: They're not even getting no, they're just making about they 450 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: just they're just happy to say men, it's with men, 451 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 4: it's men. They're emphasizing the men part. 452 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: But I do. 453 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: I love that scene too. And he actually cried, and 454 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 4: I felt for him because their family's so tight and 455 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: so close, and they're so worried about their daughter. And 456 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: his concern was he doesn't want anyone to think that 457 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: he would ever cheat on his wife, and he doesn't 458 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: want his daughter to ever think that he would ever 459 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: do that to his wife or to his family, And 460 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: that was It was such a profound moment. I really 461 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 4: enjoyed it too, and enjoyed it in a very deep 462 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 4: heartfelt way, Like I really felt for him. 463 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: And then I also appreciated like when they gave us 464 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: a little bit more backstory on them, like we saw 465 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: pictures of them when they first started out, and like 466 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: it just gave us a more like three sixty view 467 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: of them as a couple, where I feel like when 468 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: you come in, I think it's different when you come 469 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: in as a full housewife versus when you come in 470 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: originally as a friend of you don't get much backstory 471 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: on the friend us that then turn into housewives. So 472 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: the fact that we got a little bit more was 473 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: helpful to me. 474 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't I don't know much about I 475 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: actually I don't know anything about Greek Orthodox or Greek 476 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: Orthodox religion. I don't know anything about that. But I 477 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 4: do like that they explained how that was central to 478 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 4: their marriage and their life and their family and their 479 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: extended family, and that they would they they wouldn't partake 480 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: in any type of infidelity because it's is not it's 481 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 4: not accepted within their you know, traditional roles and their religion. Yeah, 482 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 4: and I liked that they explain that too, and they do. 483 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 4: I thought that added a layer of depth. 484 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: And they do seem like a good couple, like they don't. 485 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: They seem like they have a good mutual respect for 486 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: one another. They seem to be on the same page. 487 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: Okay, I do have I did have one problem with 488 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 4: that scene though. My only problem with that scene was 489 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 4: that she was waking up out of bed with a 490 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: robe on, getting a cup of coffee with full glam. 491 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: I know. 492 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 4: I was like, girlfriend, you did not just wake up. 493 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: I know, but I think that it's and I'm saying 494 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: this in a loving way, Angie, but when I saw 495 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: it at the horse show, she's like, she said one 496 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: of those things like, oh, I'm I'm I'm embarrassed that 497 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: you're seeing me without makeup on, and I was like, 498 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you look beautiful no no matter what, 499 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: and look at me like I've been up for like 500 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: eighty hundred and twenty hours. I think there's something when 501 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: you first get on the show that pressure to look 502 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: a certain way and regardless of how beautiful you are 503 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: naturally or without glam but especially. 504 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: When people are so brutal online. 505 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: They are. But I guess to me, it was like 506 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 4: it felt that much made it feel fake. I know, yeah, 507 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 4: it was like the moment was so real, and the 508 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: moment with the husband was so real, But then I 509 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: just couldn't get past the fact that she sat in 510 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 4: a chair and had her makeup done before I know 511 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: she had that with her husband. That was it. 512 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: I was like, I just felt like it should have 513 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: just been especially when the one part that the part 514 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: that I've loved Monica the most this entire season has 515 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: been the part with her kids where she doesn't have 516 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: a lick of makeup on. She's a hot mess. Express 517 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: she's picking up socks. Her little kid says boner like 518 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: that scene, Yeah, and another kids like that's a really 519 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: bad word, and like, yeah, you can see the relationship 520 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: and you just kind of appreciate her as a mom 521 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: in that moment. 522 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 523 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: And I liked that she had no glamor on. 524 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: I like that, Like she looked exactly the way we 525 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: all look going to carpool. 526 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And I appreciate women and housewives and you know, 527 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 4: I don't I wear makeup on camera and I don't 528 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: wear makeup on camera. I do both, but you know, 529 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: I don't feel the need to always have it on. Yeah. 530 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 4: I think it's just me. 531 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: I think it just depends on the person. And so 532 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: you know, you do you, but we are able to 533 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: clock it when somebody's glammed. Well, I was gonna say 534 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: going back to that scene though with Meredith. Meredith drove 535 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: me nuts though, because she ran away from every conversation 536 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: she always does. 537 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: It's just like as soon as someone goes to talk 538 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 4: to her and confront her that she doesn't even get 539 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: like a full sentence out. She says like, I did 540 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 4: not spread the rumors, and then she splits, and then 541 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 4: she splits again, and then she leaves and she puts 542 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: on her big cape and she exits the building. It's 543 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 4: like every time. 544 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: The line she said one of this a couple of 545 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: seasons ago was like, I'm disengaging, and so then she 546 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: just leaves everything. And it drives me nuts because you 547 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: can't throw a little log on the fire, watch it explode, 548 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: and then leave every time when it comes back at you. 549 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: Then we get to. 550 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 3: The Lisa Barlow scene where Lisa makes it all about it. 551 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: You gotta love Lisa Barlow. I she's she's she's I lovely, 552 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: She's a character. Of course. I love how she was 553 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 4: so triggered, like she was like she went from like 554 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: zero to one hundred. Like I felt like, was there 555 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: like thirty minutes of filming in there that they cut 556 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 4: out that led up to that or do you think 557 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 4: it was just like that? My question? 558 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: I was actually trying to decipher how much was on 559 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: that charcoterie board to see like how much time had 560 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: actually pass to get to your level. But the way 561 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: it looked was like that Andrew was just starting to 562 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: tell her story and then Lisa was like. 563 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 5: Damn, which She's like, wait, you you were at Heather's house. Yeah, 564 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 5: you went to like you were at her house. And 565 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 5: then she did this to me, and she did that 566 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 5: to you know, all of it. And then Lisa. 567 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: And her son and they're talking about the missions, and 568 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: all I could think during the pedicure portion of this was, Oh, 569 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: Lisa hasn't gotten kicked out of the petticure place yet, 570 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: like the tanning not. 571 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: That one that might have been a No, that was 572 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: the tanning salon she got kicked out. 573 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm sure she's been kicked out of other places. 574 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 4: Let's let's be serious, Lisa, how many places in Salt 575 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 4: Lake City have you been kicked out of? True? 576 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: Let's we need a list. Then we get to Linda. 577 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: Monica's mother says Monica's daughter needs Jesus. Monica tells Linda 578 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: that she apologized for raising her in the church. Linda 579 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: says it's important to go to church every Sunday. Monica says, yeah, well, 580 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: your daughter still got pregnant at night. Teen Monica tells 581 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: Ben tells Linda to not say nasty things when she 582 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: thinks Monica is not listening. They started talking about how 583 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: they thought that they had hung up the phone, and 584 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: then Linda starts yelling, Monica's a bitch. 585 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 4: Made her get her out of my life, cause that 586 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 4: was horrible. I mean, the whole thing was horrible. 587 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: And if I were Monica, my mom would instantly be 588 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: on the Junot call list and I'd be returning that 589 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: Louis Vaton scarf that I obviously bought her when I 590 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: got my one bag for filming. 591 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 4: I know, I saw the scarf too, and I was like, 592 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 4: clearly she got that when she went to Louis Vauton 593 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 4: and cried, bought her one bag, she got her mama scarf. 594 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 4: She was like, here, wear less when we're. 595 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: Filmed, but maybe don't wear it with that headband. 596 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: Maybe not. I might want to rethink that. 597 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: But I did love the grandma. 598 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 4: I like the grandma too. The Grandma's funny. 599 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: She's like, don't talk. 600 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: Dirty in here, no dirty talk. 601 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: And I also didn't really understand that card game. It's 602 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: just you have the card and if you do, you 603 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: just throw it in the middle. 604 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's like GoFish or something. Maybe they 605 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 4: just made it up. 606 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: It seemed like that. But I do appreciate that Monica 607 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: is trying to like share her life. But the problem 608 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 2: is Linda is trying to show us an obviously a 609 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: fake version of what their life is. Monica's not having it. 610 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: She's not having it. I actually really like Monica on 611 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: her own, when she's with her kids and family. It's 612 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: when she's with the other women that she turns me 613 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: off slightly because I feel like she's so interested in 614 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: just being an instigator. She's a tryo, which, yeah, I 615 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 4: don't know where she's spinning in. I don't really know 616 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: who she's friends with. I don't really know what relationship 617 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 4: she has with any of the women. I can't tell. 618 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: Well, on Watch What Happens Live, the way they've led 619 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: this up to it is we all thought that she 620 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: was close with Angie, but Angie said on Watch What 621 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: Happens Live she had only met Monica one time prior 622 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: to filming. Oh. 623 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, they made it like they were good. 624 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but one time. Come on, that's not friend, that's 625 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: not friends. One time. 626 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: No, I'm better friends with you know, the guy at Starbucks? 627 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one time, I guess one time. Jinshaw, 628 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: Monica and Angie made like a TikTok video together, and 629 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: that's the time they met, and they obviously saw at 630 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: that time that Monica is going to make good television. 631 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: And here we go. 632 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: The rest is history. Then we get to the end 633 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: of the episode where Whitney tells Heather about Lisa's reaction 634 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: to Heather inviting Angie over. Whitney says Lisa was jealous 635 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: and hurt. Heather says, if Lisa wants a genuine friendship, 636 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: she should tell her about Jack's mission. Do you think 637 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: Lisa should have told Heather about Jack's mission? And why 638 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: do you think Lisa cares that Heather invited Angie over? 639 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: Well, the whole mission thing. Like, I had a that 640 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 4: was an interesting episode, or I mean seen for me 641 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: because I actually I'm married to a Mormon who went 642 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 4: on a mission, and I also have a stepdaughter who 643 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 4: just went on a mission. So I guess maybe what 644 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: I want to clear up about a mission just because Heather, 645 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 4: I felt like she made it very one dimensional, where 646 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: it's like you just go around and knock on doors 647 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: and try to convert people to mormonism't I just I 648 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 4: feel like it's more complex than that. I mean clearly, 649 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: they do a lot of they do a lot of good, 650 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 4: They do a lot of work, they. 651 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: Do a lot of volunteering. 652 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 4: There's a lot more to it than just work. Yeah, 653 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: I mean clearly. And I asked Shane about it and 654 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 4: he said, it's not selling, it's just trying to open 655 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 4: people up to an opportunity and then they they make 656 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: a choice their own free will. So I felt like 657 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 4: that was a better way to say it, maybe less 658 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: judgmental way to say it, but I know, why wouldn't 659 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: list the tell Heather she wrote a book called Bad Mormon. 660 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's I don't like, why would she 661 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: go to her and be like, oh, by the way, 662 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 4: my son's going to go on a mission when clearly 663 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 4: Heather has serious problems with missionaries and the church, and 664 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: you know, she had a bad experience. I don't take 665 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 4: anything away from that. Everybody has their own experience, their 666 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: own thoughts, their own you know, experience. I don't know 667 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 4: what else to say besides experience, like that was her 668 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: personal experience, but it doesn't. I mean, why would Lisa 669 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: want to tell someone something that they know they're going 670 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: to have a negative reaction to, and especially when it 671 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: comes to your kid, you don't. 672 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: You just want to keep it clean, right. 673 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 3: Well, that's the end. 674 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: We've completed another two episodes. We are looking forward to 675 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: doing more recaps with you guys in the future. Let 676 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: us know your thoughts, questions, and concerns and I'll be 677 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: back in a couple of days with all things Real 678 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: Housewives of Orange County exciting. 679 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 4: Oh goodness, have fun with that, lucky me, good luck. 680 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: Thanks Jane,