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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and New He scrugs.

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Speaker 1: All right. Here we are on a Friday, you know

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Speaker 1: a time, and there's time for the Players Lounge, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Hotels dot Com. All right, this show

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Speaker 1: was built around two former Dallas Cowboys players Safety's Danny

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Speaker 1: McCray and Barry Church. I am merely the person who

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Speaker 1: helps them get through this forty five minutes to one hour.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how long we go today. I'm new He's scrugs.

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Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, how are we doing on a Friday? Now?

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Speaker 1: Ohead go ahead, Dan Mac I'm doing good man. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know it's Friday. My pick was right last week,

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Speaker 1: you know, and let you go first. Unfortunately I don't

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Speaker 1: have any pomo because it's so cold outside. Nobody is

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Speaker 1: venturing I'm going to eat and doing all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: So y'all all stuck inside just like me. So I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy, man. I tell you, I should have never

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Speaker 1: let you go first. Man, it's cold. It's head out here. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's freezing outside, you know. So I thought I got

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Speaker 1: away from this when I came down to Dallas. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's cold outside. You can't golf covid out here. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, golf, you can't. I ain't no way

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Speaker 1: I'm going out there. Man, ain't no way. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: pay me to go out there to day. But you

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Speaker 1: know they won't run the planes dollars today, so you

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Speaker 1: know it's a good day. It's a good day. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we will dive into the super Bowl later on here

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Speaker 1: as Danny was the one who predicted Tampa Bay to win,

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Speaker 1: and like an idiot, I did not listen to De

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Speaker 1: Marcus Ware. De Marcus Ware was on Serious x in

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Speaker 1: radio that morning. I heard him when he said, hey,

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Speaker 1: look that those tackles are gonna be an issue. I

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Speaker 1: played against uh Mike Rhymers in the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: Von Miller and I had a day against him, So

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have listened to him. We'll dive into that

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Speaker 1: later time. Big wait oh wait wait wait wait wait

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Speaker 1: wait you said love you said the tackles, okay, because

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get back on the later said the tackles. Oh,

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Speaker 1: don't worry. I'm ready for you. I'm ready for you

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Speaker 1: to day. I don't think you're about to bring no

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Speaker 1: juice on me. And I ain't al ready for mikea lawyer.

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Speaker 1: I'm not about to talk about nothing I ain't ready

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Speaker 1: to come back with. So don't worry, young, We go

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Speaker 1: ahead and get that tackles all you want to on that?

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Speaker 1: All right? J J J. J. Watt asked for his

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Speaker 1: release from Houston, and he got it. I'm still waiting

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Speaker 1: on Brett Farr to say something that he should shut

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Speaker 1: up and play like he said about Sean Watson, But

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Speaker 1: so far Brett Farve hasn't said that. But JJ Watson

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Speaker 1: is a J J. Watt is a free agent, and

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Speaker 1: they're all whole bunch of people on Twitter, Cowboy fans

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Speaker 1: saying go get him, please come to the Cowboys. Tank

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Speaker 1: Lawrence Cowboys defensive tackle, highs paid player on the team

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Speaker 1: even put something out on Twitter saying, you know, with

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Speaker 1: a phone at J J. Watt like, come on down.

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you guys. Let's go to you first church.

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Speaker 1: Do you want JJ Watt on the Cowboys? Nah? I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't go down that that bunny hole. Man. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't venture down there with JJ Watt. First of all.

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Speaker 1: I mean he said he asked for his release, but

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, he was getting released, all right. I

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Speaker 1: mean the man had five sacks last year, seventeen mil

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Speaker 1: next year. He was getting released regardless. But anyways, I

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Speaker 1: just wouldn't venture down that bunny hole. Man. I think

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Speaker 1: don't think you need to do that. And with what money?

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Speaker 1: What money are we allocating towards JJ Wat? I mean

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna come in here for four or five mil.

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Speaker 1: And he said he wanted to go to a contender,

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Speaker 1: I'm not just say the Saints, right, the Saints have

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Speaker 1: cap problems, So that's going to be an issue for

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Speaker 1: you to go to a team like that. The Buccaneer

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Speaker 1: So would you sacrifice some millions of dollars to go

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Speaker 1: play with the Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady That that,

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Speaker 1: to me, is going to be where jj Watt has

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Speaker 1: what you said here, Danny, and looking at the jj Watt,

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Speaker 1: He's at one season of five and a half sacks

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Speaker 1: in the last five years. JJ Watt is an aging

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Speaker 1: football player who'll be thirty two years old, and I

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Speaker 1: think jj Watt has got a Hall of Fame resume,

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Speaker 1: three time Defensive Player of the Year. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: that I would be interested in from a defensive standpoint

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Speaker 1: in terms of getting to the quarterback would be Von Miller.

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Speaker 1: Von Millers do seventeen million dollars from the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: I don't see Von Miller getting it. He did not

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Speaker 1: His dad would love to see him with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And for me, I'm looking at Vaughn's leadership, a guy

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn, that I would want all my defense. Now

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Speaker 1: great question. Yeah, great question. But yes, I'm just he's

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Speaker 1: said the Cowboys were a team that you know that

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Speaker 1: there would definitely be interested in on his part if

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Speaker 1: he's not reack with the Broncos. I wouldn't do either

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Speaker 1: one of those. What like why Like we already talked

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Speaker 1: go get von Miller. But I don't think we need

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Speaker 1: Ten ten eleven, million dollars. I think Randy Gregory is

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Speaker 1: we're already paying a hunting me into the Marcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: I just think it doesn't make sense to even look

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Speaker 1: take a pay cut after they chopped this haircut on

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Speaker 1: Big Bend. Just go up there and play with your brother,

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Speaker 1: you know what's going there, going down on third down,

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Speaker 1: you know, and get those stats and then ride off

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Speaker 1: we've seen that Pittsburgh has has the team and they're

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Speaker 1: just missing a few pieces like our running game, but

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Speaker 1: just go do that. Stand away from detown man and

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Speaker 1: let us focus on the interior lignment and our secondary.

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Speaker 1: Gregory and all that, who who would you get there?

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Speaker 1: D Mac? Would it would it be why or would

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Speaker 1: it be you? Know von Miller, I would go. I

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Speaker 1: would go von Miller because I see, I see the

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Speaker 1: I don't see you you snatching Randy Gregory off the field,

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Speaker 1: not listen, I'm not paying no money for us to

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Speaker 1: go switch up this position at thirty two years old. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm going VIONN Miller, letting him rotate in and out

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Speaker 1: Von Miller's name is Alden Smith is still someone the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I hear considering bringing back man, And look, I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying before I'd bring back Olden Smith, would

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Speaker 1: I would go look into Von Miller speaking of free agents,

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Speaker 1: and Danny, you're hitting on another point that you and

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Speaker 1: I are are very much in agreement with the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have to fix this into your defensive line. And if

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Speaker 1: you saw how Vita Vella and Dominican Sue were so

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Speaker 1: should address themselves in free agency. Um for Dan Quinn,

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Speaker 1: who's whose background as in defenses with the D line.

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Speaker 1: So you got Leonard Williams of the Giants, Dalvin Tomlinson

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Speaker 1: got Shelby Harris of the Denver Broncos, who looks like

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Speaker 1: they have spent money all the D line, he may

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Speaker 1: picking up the phone and seeing what will it take

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Speaker 1: and Neville gallible or if he's able to keep it

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Speaker 1: they were stacked in the front seven. You're not stacked

426
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Speaker 1: in the front seven. Bro We already we listen. First

427
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Speaker 1: of all, ain't no Devin White in the draft, like

428
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Speaker 1: like like Church said in the text vession them linebacker

429
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: say to this draft, we already currently have our outside

430
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 1: rushers who are the ones who took advantage of the tackles.

431
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: So when you're talking about we already got that. If

432
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Speaker 1: we was in we were in the Super Bowl game

433
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Speaker 1: and you replace some of the players that they had

434
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Speaker 1: our we have d Law and we got Randy Gregen.

435
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 1: The dudes ain't going nowhere. So when you're not even

436
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: talking about drafting nobody at the position that that help

437
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: Tampa may win the game, I'm not picking no defensive

438
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: tackle in the first round because I don't. Let me see,

439
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: Nick Fairley didn't really work out that much and Oliver's

440
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: my guy. But I mean as far as being a

441
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: super an impact player hadn't happened. So you look at

442
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: the defensive tackles, Yeah he didn't he go first, didn't

443
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Speaker 1: go first round? Was he first round? Tacer? Now was

444
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: her first round tackle? Strip? Was Nick Fairley a first

445
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: round tackle? Yes? He was. And let me tell you

446
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: what the Detroit Lions did. First, they drafted and Domin

447
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: consue before and then they drafted fairly the next year.

448
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: Then when both contracts came up, they let the guys

449
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: go and Martin Mayhugh decided that instead of drafting Aaron

450
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: Donald to replace Nick Fairley, Ann and Domin consue he

451
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: would draft a tight end Eric Ebron. So they had

452
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go ahead and take a d tackle

453
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Speaker 1: just because Nick Fairy go out to be a dune

454
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: coming out of Auburn, And if you'd read the scouting report,

455
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: you know this dude had issues. Shouldn't have drafted the guy.

456
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: If you're the cat on saying you gotta taken a ten,

457
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: you could trade down, but it's one of the first

458
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: two rounds. Danny mcraig, you got to address this d

459
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: tackle need. Man, listen, do it in a second. I'm

460
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: sticking with my offensive tackle in the first. This is

461
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,479
Speaker 1: a need that we need. Like you said, we got

462
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: all the pieces of offense. The one thing that could

463
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: all set us having one hundred million dollars receiver, a

464
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: first round receiver, ninety million dollars running back is not

465
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: being able to protect the quarterback, which your left tackle.

466
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: That that's what that's what it set you back. Man

467
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: said that that that that will kill you. Dan Quinn

468
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: is gonna find a way to get his players in

469
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: the right position, because, like like I said during the

470
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Speaker 1: season last last last it's crazy. It's it's crazy because

471
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: you was with me last year and saying that the

472
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Speaker 1: biggest part of the failure of this defense was who

473
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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, all right, not necessarily the players. It

474
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: was there trying to come in. I knew it, knew

475
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: he was, knew it was and knew he was not

476
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: Church Me and k NEWI both agreed that the defensive

477
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: coordinator was the biggest issue on this team last year.

478
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Speaker 1: That we had some players that were trending in the

479
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: right direction before he got here, and then all of

480
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: a sudden, they digressed dramatically when when he arrived and

481
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: we ended up with the worst defense in the Cowboys history.

482
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: So now we have another guy in here who knew it.

483
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: You can keep saying that. What I'm saying is now

484
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: he's not focusing on trying to run his whole team.

485
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: He's focusing on what he's good at. Right, He's zeroed

486
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: in on what he's good at D line and defensive

487
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: coordinator with his guys in there helping him, and it's

488
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: gonna be a quick turnaround. I believe it. And what

489
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: did I say about dan Quinn. Okay, and now you're

490
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: telling the story, but you leave it out the other

491
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: part of what I said about it. You said he

492
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't coming here, That's what you said, and he here.

493
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: So I mean I was right about that. There's a

494
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Speaker 1: lot of contexts. There's a lot of contexts. Yes, yes, No,

495
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: I know. I didn't know. No, I didn't mention anything

496
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: you said about Dre. And I'm talking about what you

497
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: said about the defensive coordinator and the problems that we

498
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: had last year and going to say we need to

499
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: just draft all defensive players, which is not is not

500
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: the case because our defensive coordinator and what they were

501
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: teaching was horrible. Okay, And what I've said about dan

502
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: Quinn on this podcast is this, let's say one more time.

503
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: So make sure you listening. Get your both's headphone on,

504
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: make sure listening. The carpenter needs tools. Dan Quinn alone

505
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: just can't fix this without. You need players. Okay, you

506
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: need players, and they have issues with players. The D

507
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: line is an issue. These d tackles or an issue.

508
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: We watched the Super Bowl here. I don't see anybody

509
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: who can cover anybody in space like like like Tampa Bay.

510
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't see any corners. I don't see the safety,

511
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: don't see Antonine. They need some players here. They're not

512
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: enough guys for anybody to talk about a super Bowl

513
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: right now, all this defense. When I look at Dan

514
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Speaker 1: Quinn who went to a super Bowl with Atlanta and

515
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: went to a super Bowl, see, I don't see those

516
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: type of playmakers that he had here, especially at the

517
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: same position, especially at the d tackle position. Yeah, I

518
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: definitely need you definitely go ahead there, go ahead, but no, no, no,

519
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: you got it? Please, please please, I want to say

520
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: go ahead. I want to listen. You got to say

521
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: you're right. Okay, listen. If Earl Thomas is in this draft,

522
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: let me know if Cam Chancellor is in this draft.

523
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: For we already said, but Man Wilson is gonna be

524
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Speaker 1: compete for that spot because we've seen some stuff that

525
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: he was able to do to be impactful. So we

526
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: got we got one safety, we got one defensive tackle.

527
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: So we need one one defensive tackle, one safety, and

528
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: a free age of corner. We can do that with

529
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Speaker 1: I'm picking somebody in the first round of the draft.

530
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: We can get those players. The linebackers new as much

531
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: as you want to see Devin White and all those

532
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: guys out there covering linebackers. Laden vander ash and Jayleen

533
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: Smith are going to be our starting linebackers. So you

534
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: can keep dreaming about us picking somebody in the draft

535
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: in the first round or whatever, a high pick, it

536
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: ain't happening. Those two guys are going to be using

537
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: something field. What free agent corner. We ain't got the

538
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: bread we have, we don't have the money, We ain't

539
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: got the moola to go grab one of these top

540
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: tier free agent corners to help this defense come alive.

541
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: That's why I think in the first round we gotta

542
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: go corner we got. It's gonna be lockdown on the

543
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: opposite side of Trayvon Digs. There's gonna be some haircuts

544
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: given Church before before these there's gonna be some haircuts given. Yeah, listen,

545
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: we can be surprised. They are going to find a way.

546
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I have no I don't know, but

547
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: I know I know who does though, and that's Jed's

548
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: fall star. Man. No, I'm not I'm not wishing. I'm

549
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: not wishing. And the fact of the matter of this church,

550
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: we can talk about that preside all we want to

551
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: the man ain't got paid in two years, all right,

552
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: So we keep saying, yeah, we sure were sure Dak

553
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: Prescott Finn get paid, were sure all this, We sure

554
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: all that, We ain't sure. I'm not even gonna get

555
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: into what happened this week because I love I love

556
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: the big man. You know these podcasts of these shows.

557
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that alone. But Dak Presscote is not.

558
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: He is not one uh going to be on this

559
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: roster as a right now if you go one based

560
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: off what's happened in the history of his contract negotiations. Mmm,

561
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: y'all just leaving his defense out to drive. Man. I mean,

562
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: tell them Church, tell leave. We're gonna be telling we're

563
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: gonna be if we keep going down this path, this

564
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: offensive path, we're gonna be another seven and nine, eight

565
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: and eight squad and we're gonna be struggling. We just

566
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: don't have the pieces defensively right now. I mean, we

567
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: got d Law on one edge. If he can get

568
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: back to that twenty eighteen d Law, then sure he

569
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: could be that catalyst. But that's another guy that we

570
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: haven't seen really produced in the past two years. Randy Gregory.

571
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: He's coming off one of his better years. But can

572
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: he can he be consistent? So I mean we just

573
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: got we got pieces that we need. Both of our linebackers.

574
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: Were talking about cover linebackers. Both of those guys are

575
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: liabilities and coverage. I mean, yeah, they can, they can

576
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: run and hitting all that stuff, but when it comes

577
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: to coverage, both of those guys they're big time liabilities.

578
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: So we need pieces, we need pieces of offensive Church.

579
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: I love I love Church. I love Church talking about

580
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, picking these dudes all high in the draft,

581
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: and that's the way to win, especially considering that my

582
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: man was undrafted. You know said considering considering my man

583
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: was undrafted. All right, it was one of the top

584
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: safeties in free agency when he was playing. He started

585
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: on this Church. Who did you start next to? Church?

586
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: Who did you start next to? Who did you start

587
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: next to in the secondary? Who? Who? Who was the

588
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: safety opposite of you in the secondary? I don't know

589
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: what you're talking about exactly. I know he wasn't I

590
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: know he was in the first round pick. I know

591
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: it was in the first round pick. I know that.

592
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: I know that ain't what happened. So you can so

593
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: we can sit here and talk about this all we

594
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: want to about not being able to find these type

595
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: of players. Like you said, you can find a tackle

596
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: in the third round. You can find the safety in

597
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: the third round. You can find a safety in the

598
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: second I mean the corner of the second round like

599
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: we did last year. You can find players all over

600
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: the draft. You could do this as a matter of fact.

601
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: You can find them after the draft. Ain't that right? Church?

602
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: You can find um after the drafting you need to.

603
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: That's a lot of pressure though. You can find offensive

604
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: tackle after the draft. Cowboysn't done ye the offense time?

605
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: Listen Dolls? Yeah, yeah, listen, you ain't what happened with

606
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: Lion Collins before the draft, the pre draft and all

607
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: that was his first round getting draft picked. Great, that

608
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: ain't happening again, all right, it ain't. And also he

609
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: didn't play last season either. While we're talking about Lion

610
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: Collars like he was out there last year. Oh man,

611
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: we knew what was gonna happen. We knew season started

612
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: coming up, people are gonna start talking about offense, and

613
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: we need to. We need to one of our strengths. Now,

614
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: I knew this was gonna happen, man, offensive And that's

615
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: why we've been past a couple of years. Church, I'm

616
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: waiting on Danny to just break out some magic beans.

617
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: That's how this defense is gonna get good. Danny goes,

618
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: then he and Dan Quinny gonna go out there at

619
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: say even sprinkles sprinkles some magic beans, and it's gonna

620
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: be a bean stock. And after being stock, there's gonna

621
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: be a goose who just starts laying down defensive players

622
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: golden eggs. And that's how the cowboyd defense gonna get good.

623
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: While don't stop anybody for running last year, might as

624
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: well get the Infinity Gauntlet as well. They might as

625
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: well get the Infinity Stones, get than those and all

626
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: that to play defense, because we we we're gonna be

627
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: landsome eggs. Man, don't you know on this defense, we're

628
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: gonna be landsome eggs. You know. I'm gonna go back

629
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: and listen to the podcast from last year about the

630
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: draft when NEWI was pick picking this first guy, and

631
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about Diggs and going defense, and we

632
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: did that and we ended up with the worst defense

633
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: in the history of the Cowboys already anyway, so you

634
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: can talk about picking these players as much as you

635
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: want to, all right, we saw what happened to Diggs

636
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: as a result of not having the correct and defensive

637
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: coordinator and secondary coaches out there. All right, the coaches matter.

638
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: You can find these guys and the second third off,

639
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm not saying don't pick defense at all. I'm saying,

640
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: look for you a veteran guy in free agency, and

641
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: then find you a safety. Keep talking about these linebackers

642
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: not being at being able to cover. Dan Quick will

643
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: have to figure something out with the players that he got,

644
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: because once again, those two guys are going to be

645
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 1: the starting linebackers out there. If you, if you can

646
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: look in that camera and tell me that you believe

647
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: that lv E won't be starting and Zalen Smith won't

648
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: be starting for this team next year, then please go ahead,

649
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: and I might have to call you after the show

650
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: so you can explain to me why you believe this

651
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: is true. Man, Look, I'm I'm just I don't know.

652
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: We're trying to win an argument here. None of us

653
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: suceeding our ground. So so Church and I can be

654
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: right and we're just gonna let you, you know, continue

655
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: to believe what you're gonna believe, Danny, so we can

656
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: do um every time you go to church. Every time

657
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: you go to church, you get the same result. Well, okay,

658
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: now not in the draft, church is not gonna be right. Um,

659
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: So one of the things. Let's just take another topic here,

660
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: all right. Another thing that kind of I laughed at

661
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: because I got a text from a friend that said, so,

662
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson coming to Dallas. Do you believe it? And

663
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: I had to just kind of educate him. I said, Okay,

664
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: this happens all the time when they players disgruntled. Somehow

665
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: his name gets connected with the Cowboys. Russell Wilson came

666
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: out and basically said something that's true. Hey, I get

667
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: sacked a lot. I'd really like to not get sacked.

668
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: I wish my team would address this. And so now, oh,

669
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Russell wants out of Seattle and you need to trade

670
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: him to the Cowboys. And I'm just sitting there shaking

671
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: my head. I like Russell Wilson. And something fans don't

672
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: do enough of, guys, is look at the current contract

673
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: they just paid Russ. So to get rid of Russ

674
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: it would cost you a thirty million dollar cap hit.

675
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do a thirty million dollar cap hit

676
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: if you're trying to win, You're not gonna do it.

677
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: So this whole premise of eating training, of even training Russell,

678
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: to me, is a non starter in Seattle and the

679
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: whole Dak Seattle Russ coming to Dallas thing. I think

680
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: it's dead on arrival. What do you think? I think?

681
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: You know, I think that you know that they're not

682
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: getting rid of him, Like you said that capit is

683
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: too crazy. I mean, he's too much. He's Seattle. He

684
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: is Seattle. So the gonna let him go. I mean,

685
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: there's a franchise, he's the head of the head of

686
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: the room. He's the guy. They're not gonna let him go.

687
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: But the bigger story to me, I think is why

688
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: is he gonna throw us old line under the bus?

689
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: Like that's wow to be like how you and this

690
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: what's like out of nowhere? Just yeah, man, you know,

691
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: I just would I would just like to not get

692
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: sacked as much. Like that's something you keep in house,

693
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: that's something you you let your old line know. Like, man,

694
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: look after that, after the season's done, y'all break it

695
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: down over dinner, like man, look y'all got to step up,

696
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: y'all play. I'm not I'm not feeling protected out there.

697
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm running from my life out there. I need y'all

698
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: to step it up. You don't go out there and

699
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: put it out and put a story out there like that. Man,

700
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: Now you got your whole offensive line looking around like man,

701
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: that's how he feels about us, Like he couldn't come

702
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: and tell us. He had to tell the media about it.

703
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: Lad to me, it was out of pocket. And I

704
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: think it's that's the biggest story here, Ay Church, I

705
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: can guarantee you this the offensive lineman that he was

706
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: talking about. They know exactly who they are. It ain't

707
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: the whole old line. They know specifically the one or

708
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: two people that Russell Wilson was talking about. And I

709
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: think it's crazy that we just finished talking about this

710
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: topic and all of a sudden you got a quarterback

711
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: out here say hey man, I need I need helping

712
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I don't care about none of that stuff.

713
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: Some help, but yeah, listen at A lot of stuff

714
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: is outlanders that be getting floated on Twitter and Facebook,

715
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: and this is just another one of those. It makes

716
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: absolutely no sense for Russell not to be in Seattle.

717
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: What they're going to do is they're going to listen

718
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: to them, and I bet they go and pick them

719
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: up some guys to show up the offensive line, because

720
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: this isn't the problem that they've had just recently in

721
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: this year. They've had this for the last few years

722
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: of him being having a run around and create all

723
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: these plays, all the highlight plays that you see in

724
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, he has scrambled and running for his life

725
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: and making these deep passes the title locket and DJ Metcalfs.

726
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna address this year, especially with

727
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: him going out and expressing this publicly. I can't remember

728
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: what website had it, maybe it was Warren Sharp Sharp

729
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: Football Annalysis, but they spoke about the resources in terms

730
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: of draft picks and free agents that they put towards

731
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: their offensive line the last five six years of Russell

732
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: Wilson his career and it's and it's one of the

733
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: worst in football. And then the draft picks they have.

734
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: Remember they took kid out of A and M a

735
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, a Feddie and he was terrible,

736
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: just didn't work out. So they when they tried it,

737
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: they've whipped. And this dude is getting hit. I mean

738
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: what he said, and I and I and Barry. I

739
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: understand when you say you don't want to throw people

740
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: under the bus, but you get to that point in

741
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: time when, especially you know, guys only have so many

742
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: hits in them. Yeah, hey man, I'm getting killed back here.

743
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's told them this. This is just me.

744
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure guy like Russell Wilson has said it and

745
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: said it, and they've just gone on and done whatever

746
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: they wanted to do. And finally and like, hey man, look,

747
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm in my thirties. I only have so many years

748
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: to do this. Can I not get killed? Can I?

749
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: Can I live like Tom Brady? I mean, if you

750
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: ever see an example of how you want to get

751
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: it done. Tom Brady went down into tamp and they

752
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: displayed what you want, Tom, and they said yes, yes, yes.

753
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: And while some people will say, well, hey it's Tom

754
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: Brady and guy came there were six super Bowls. He

755
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: should be able to ask what he wants. But when

756
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: he think about Russell Wilson and what they've done with him,

757
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 1: and he has been a part of the Super Bowl

758
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: winning team, two teams that went to the Super Bowl,

759
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's out of pocket for rus to

760
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: sit up here say that management, You know what, this

761
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: is what I need because clearly I'm not able to

762
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: be my best if I'm running for my life and

763
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: the guys you keep going out here getting me aren't

764
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: any good. I agree with that, you know, but it

765
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: comes to think, you know, how much power you know,

766
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: should should a quarterback have? Should he be you know,

767
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: part GM if he's bringing Like if you're Tom Brady

768
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: and you go down to Tampa and basically he was

769
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: part GM right there. He brought in you know, for

770
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: nett Antonio Brown. I mean, he brought in all these

771
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: pieces and he was basically part GM and it ended

772
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: up working out. So, you know, as as a quarterback goes,

773
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: if you're you know, you got that VET status and

774
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: you're up there and you're you're proving to be an

775
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: elite quarterback, should you have as much power as a

776
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: GM to bring, you know, as many people as you

777
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: want to to feel the need to to compete as

778
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: you need to do. What y'all think about that? Should

779
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: they get those GM powers? Yeah? I'm not with it.

780
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: I think it depends on what situation the GEM is

781
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: walking into. Right. So in Deshaun Watson's case, with all

782
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: the stuff that they're going through. And you promised him that,

783
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: you know when he signed his contract. Absolutely, he shouldn't

784
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: have as much power as a gym, but you should.

785
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: You should be able to put you know, have your

786
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: input and they should be able. I have to take

787
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: it seriously. Um, Tom Brady, you know the same thing,

788
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: right He winning there, and he essentially is a gem.

789
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: He's seen it all, done it all, and he's played

790
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: with all these players and he knows he knows what

791
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: they can do and how they can help him specifically

792
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: and winning and we saw that happen. All quarterbacks do

793
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: not deserve the right to uh to have to have

794
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: say so right because they just haven't proven it. And

795
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: I think it goes team by team basis. I think

796
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: you hit it right there, Danny. It's a team by

797
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: team basis. And you guys have been in the locker room.

798
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: You know what quarterbacks have real respect. You know what

799
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: guys actually are the straws to story the drain an organization.

800
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: I think what Tom Brady went down to Tampa and said, hey,

801
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: you got me here. This is what I need and

802
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: he said, I need grunk. They went and got grunk.

803
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: They needed to get a tackle. They used the first

804
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: round pick on Tristan Works, who was sensational, and he

805
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: helped him. He said, I want to Antonio Brown, even

806
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: though Bruce Andrison came out and said Nana's guys, difa,

807
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: I don't want him. Tom Brady said, I need Antonio Brown.

808
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: I've worked with Antonio Brown. I know how to get

809
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: it done with Antonio Brown. And he was right. I

810
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: think Russell Wilson and what he's done in Seattle and

811
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: then you give him that type of contract, I think

812
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: he's earned the right to say to them, hey, look,

813
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: can I get some protection. I mean, it's what people

814
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: are asking for. I think also matters in this. I

815
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: think what Russ was asking for it wasn't crazy. Aaron

816
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: Rodgers wanting some help with another receiver in Green Bay.

817
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: I think that is legitimate. Hey, I don't need a

818
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: quarterback as much as I need. You gonna give me

819
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Tonia Romo asked Jerry Jones for a

820
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: little more help up front, and they drafted Travis Frederick.

821
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: I thought they were crazy to draft Travis Frederick, but

822
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: you know what, that turned out to be a dog

823
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: on good pick and that was done. Listening listening to

824
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Okay, I was there listening to the quarterback.

825
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman went to Jerry Jones and was like, I

826
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: don't like Chan Gailey and he fired Chan Gaily. Um.

827
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: I think it all depends on how much juice do

828
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: you want to give a quarterback. When Drew Brees was

829
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: bitched for Tom Brady, Drew Bree and Drew Brees Drew Bledsoe,

830
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: Bledsoe went to Robert Craft and said, hey, man, I

831
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: don't like what's going on, and Bob Kraft sending him

832
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: downstairs and said you gotta work it out with Belichick,

833
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: and eventually they traded him. So I think it all

834
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: depends on who's your quarterback, what it is you want

835
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: from the guy. When I was in Cleveland, Bernie Kosar

836
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: was used to trying to control things. He did it

837
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: with Marty Schottenheimer and when he was with Bill Belichick,

838
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: he tried to run things with Bill Belichick. Belichick sent

839
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: in the play Bernie changed and scored a touchdown. You

840
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: know Belichick did after the game, he cut it. He

841
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: cut him because he's like, you're not We're not doing

842
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: this here in Cleveland. And then Bernie came to Dallas

843
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: and ended up helping the Cowboys win a Super Bowl.

844
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: So I think it all depends on the guy and

845
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: your organization and what it is you want. So Danny,

846
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. It's a case by case basis. Well, hey,

847
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: what did you na against Travis Frederick? Oh? I just thought, well,

848
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: at the time, they had the big differensive tackle who

849
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: ended up going to Minnesota think was Sharif's, the big

850
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: kid out of Florida. I thought they needed a defensive

851
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: tackle and they passed on. They traded down. I believe

852
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: they got Frederick at the end, and I raised my hand.

853
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: You know, Travis Frederick was a good player, but it

854
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: wasn't anything against him the player. I just thought they

855
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: needed to go with a defensive tackle at that point,

856
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: and in the draft that was my I knew, he knew.

857
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: I knew that. Just just to let you know I

858
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: knew it. Uh, thanks for letting me know though, that

859
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: you that you want to go defensive tackle over over

860
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: offensive linemen in that year. And then Jarvis Fredrick end

861
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: up being one of the best pictures that you Okay,

862
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: I just you know, I think I think his name

863
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: was Sharif Floyd, but I think with Sharif Floyd was

864
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: his name. At the end of the day, you know,

865
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: you just saw Tampa Bay win a Super Bowl by

866
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: dominating and holding Kansas City without a touchdown. They had

867
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: a good defense. The defensive line was really good. They

868
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: went up against Aaron Rodgers, they won in Green Bay.

869
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: They went they went up against Drew Brees and they

870
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: won there. Down in the New Worlds. You know, defense

871
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: does matter, Danny, I'm just you know, call me crazy. Oh,

872
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: look at the five I look at the five Super

873
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: Bowl championships. If this team is won, they won it

874
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: with great defenses. I look at the two coaches who've

875
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: won won Super Bowls here, there's three of them, but

876
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: that the two of them that built them. They were

877
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: defensive guys. So you can ignore the defense if you

878
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: want to. But I'm sorry, I just don't believe Kella

879
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: Moore's going, Keller Moore's gonna design enough place for you

880
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. I'm not going. I'm not

881
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: going against the defense, man. I just when you look

882
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 1: at Tampa Bay's defense, they were like that. They played

883
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: complimentary defense because they had stars on every level of

884
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: the defense. Just because you draft a defensive tackle don't

885
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: mean that you're gonna find a guy like Devon White

886
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: to be out there, who, to me, was one of

887
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: the most supported players throughout that playoff run. He literally

888
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: changed the game every time he was on the field,

889
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 1: pick sacks, interceptions, force phones, whatever it was. You draft

890
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle, it's not gonna make you look like

891
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay defense. You drafted. The safety is not

892
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: one of the all of a sudden, make you look

893
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: like the Tampa Bay defense. They built that defense off,

894
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: drafting Devin White in the first round, picking up guys

895
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: like JPP and free agency. They built that defense a

896
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: different way. We are not turned into that the invader

897
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: was a defensive tackle they drafted the first round. Yeah,

898
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying they built the defense like they drafted him

899
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: in the first round, and then they drafted Devin White

900
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: in the first round, and then they picked up guys

901
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: in free agency as well. Us this year, it's not

902
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: going to turn into Tampa Bay's defense by you saying late,

903
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: then let's go pick up a defensive tackle in the

904
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: first round. Then, yeah, that's what Tampa Now we got

905
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: that Tampa Bay style of stuff. We don't have those guys.

906
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: How are you gonna stop the run? Danny? They can't

907
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: stop the run. Now they kind of start to address

908
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: stopping the run that people are throwing over their heads.

909
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: They got to fix that too. But you want to

910
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: take okay, they got they got rid of that defensive

911
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: coordinator and those defensive coaches who could not teach cover three.

912
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: All right. They also got ridd of Warley and you

913
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: got Digs going into his second or second year of

914
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL. Like we know exactly what them

915
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: getting the ball thrown over the top of their head was.

916
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: Like Warley was out there looking like a total It

917
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: was a mistake to have him out there, and I

918
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: couldn't leave they come him out there that long he

919
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: was he was getting beat like a drum come coming

920
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: coming close to the end of the year. They weren't

921
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: getting beat over the top like that. But told you

922
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: they need somebody on the opposite side. It did. They

923
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: don't have anyone, and they got into free agency. But

924
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: you said, Anthony Brown, it got a real contract, so

925
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: he did no, No, he listen. I apologize for my

926
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: words on that because that was a mistake. I already

927
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: apologize for that. And now we said that Anthony Brown

928
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: is going to be the nickelback. We we agreed on

929
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: that in consisus that he was going to be the

930
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: third corner out the second The second corner will be

931
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: the guy from either Alabama or Virginia. Was named fairly Virginia, Virginia. Yeah,

932
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: fairly okay. And then you got a certain tan out there.

933
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: We got pieces right there, second round and listen to

934
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: a defensive tack You can you keep picking up these

935
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: keep picking up these Alabama dudes like you just hope

936
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: we don't play against your Marchason Justice Jefferson each week

937
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: because they went up there and ran and ran the

938
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: numbers up on them. Have a solid rookie season. The

939
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: Days have a solid rookie season. I mean he missed

940
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: some games, he got beat over the top at the end.

941
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: They played some quarterbacks that really weren't worth much, but

942
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: he played. Okay. I mean he gotta get better. Yeah,

943
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna get better. Yes, I hope so Church, I

944
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: hope he does get better. And then you bring curtain in,

945
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: who you know, he get his father playing in the

946
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: league for a while, so he got that pedigree coming

947
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: in about how to play in the NFL. So you

948
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: got that on the side. You get you you get

949
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: you a better safety back there who can control everybody,

950
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, put everybody in the right places and can

951
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: control the defense. I think you're set, man, and they

952
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: just plus, Like you said, Quinn's gonna make these guys.

953
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: He's gonna elevate their game. You know Nolan, he had

954
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: them down and they didn't know the defense like that.

955
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: So Quinn's gonna elevate you know, LV and Jalen Smith's game.

956
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: So I think we got a solid defense. We just

957
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: need them two pieces. All right, fellas, let me do

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964
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson got into the Hall of Fame, and I'm

965
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: sure you all have seen the video by now of

966
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: Drew getting surprised by the big man, David Baker, the

967
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: president of Pro Football Hall of Fame along with Roger

968
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: Staubach's quarterback and the Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to two

969
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers welcoming Drew Pearson into the Pro Football

970
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame there. What were your thoughts when you

971
00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: saw that video, guys, Yeah, said, I thought it was

972
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: about town. We talked about this on the show multiple times.

973
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: You know, him getting looked over and passed up, being

974
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: the only person on the All Decade team to not

975
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: be in the not be in the Hall of Fame,

976
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: and we thought it was passed due. I'm glad that

977
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: he was. He was surprising and still as excited as

978
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: a guy who was being the first ballot guy. Right,

979
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: You saw how much it meant to him, and really

980
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: it just touched me to see him finally reached the

981
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: reach the height that he had been waiting on, you know,

982
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: pretty much for his entire career. That's that's what he

983
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: worked for it, that's when he worked to get to

984
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: He saw itself get passed over. You know, he stayed

985
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: the coursing and you know, he finally got in, and

986
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. Yeah, I'm extremely happy for him.

987
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: And like like you said, Mac, this was long overdue.

988
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that was a first

989
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: team All Decade team and he's the only guy that

990
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: that was on the first team that didn't make it,

991
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: and he should have made it. I mean, this guy

992
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: was a revolutionary receiver. And you just saw the emotion

993
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: and the just raw emotion in the video when he

994
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, he finally got that call to be in

995
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Long overdue. This guy should have

996
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: been in there, and like you can guess, said, man,

997
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: we're just happy for him that he's finally able to

998
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: experience that and get into the Hall of Fame. All right, Um,

999
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: last thing on Tampa, because I want Danny to be

1000
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: able to soak in all of this his correctness in

1001
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: picking the pick. Tom Brady seven super Bowl championships more

1002
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: than any other franchise out there. Someone raised the question,

1003
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: is he the greatest player of all time in any sports?

1004
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Church you? First, I

1005
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: gotta say, Man, if we're if we're going accomplishments, championships,

1006
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: just overall winning, I gotta say it's him. I gotta

1007
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: say Tom is the goat man overall over MJ over

1008
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: all those I know you got Bill Russell out there

1009
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: with eleven championships. But I mean he was going against

1010
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: substitute teachers out there. I mean, if if we're being real,

1011
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: the athletes and that day he was going against or

1012
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: nowhere near and compare into what these guys are going

1013
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: through now. So I have to say his seven championships

1014
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: overall is just unbelievable. He has more rings than any

1015
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: other organization in the National Football League, and that's just

1016
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: crazy in itself. And he went to Tampa Bay, a

1017
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: team that has been known for just being a losing organization.

1018
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: He went there off a no no training camp, no OTAs,

1019
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: no mini camp. He went there, got a new offense,

1020
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: new players all around them. Brought in a few few

1021
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: a few familiar pieces with him, but overall they're all

1022
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: new players around him. And he took that team not

1023
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: only to the playoffs, but he went to the Super

1024
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: Bowl and won. And then and the people he went

1025
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: through to get to the Super Bowl. We're talking Breeds

1026
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: Rogers and then Patrick Mahomes and the defenses he had

1027
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: to go through. I mean, this guy is unbelievable, and

1028
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I gotta say he's the goat

1029
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: of all time and that don't matter what sported in it.

1030
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: I think he's the goat, absolutely, and and he's forty three,

1031
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: so he did all that forty three years old. And

1032
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm going with Church on this one. Yes, he's to go.

1033
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm a football player, so I'm biased to me. I

1034
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: think it's much harder to win the Super Bowl than

1035
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: it is to win an NBA championship, a World Series,

1036
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: any of the other stuff. So I'm going to to one.

1037
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: I'd say for every ring that Michael Jordan got, I

1038
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: mean that Tom Brady has, Michael Jordan has one. So

1039
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: if you if you tally ended up basketball turns Tom

1040
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: Brady has fourteen NBA championships. So yes, he's he's the

1041
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. It's just it's really hard to

1042
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: be that consistent, you know, with that one team for

1043
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: that many years. The Patriots is a dynasty. Then you

1044
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: have all these questions when he leaves at Belichick guards

1045
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: at Brady. The guy went out there, changed teams forty

1046
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: three years old, improved that he is the guy. He also,

1047
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: like you said, like we talked about earlier, he had

1048
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: input into players that came in. He lets you know,

1049
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: we need this, we need that we need this. He

1050
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: showed you how methodical and strategic he is is on

1051
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: top of being the top player in the game. So

1052
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: I think he's done it all. He's shown. He showed

1053
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: a different way. I think the game will change when

1054
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: you see some of these quarterbacks change the teams and

1055
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: having the input of bringing guys from their past teams.

1056
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: I think you'll start seeing this one. So he's changed

1057
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: the game. He had seven championships and he switched and

1058
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: let you know that it was him and not just

1059
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. So many things you said about Tom, I echo,

1060
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: he's fantastic. I look at a guy like Michael Jordan,

1061
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: and obviously I saw Michael play from from college and

1062
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: to see what the NBA was. I mean, I remember

1063
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: when the NBA was having the finals on tape delay.

1064
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: You know, they were showing that thing live that Michael

1065
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: Jordan changed. He changed the league, He changed the culture,

1066
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: and I think that's something that that while Tom has

1067
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: been great at his sport, Tom didn't change the culture

1068
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: of the NBA or and even just you know, hey

1069
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: buying Jordan's shoes. You know, you got football players out there.

1070
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: And I noticed that during the Super Bowl game where

1071
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Jordan cleats on a football field. That's the legacy

1072
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: of what Michael Jordan has left and what he's done.

1073
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: And that's not something Tom is doing. And while you

1074
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: know everything you said about him as a football players, great,

1075
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: But to me, when I think about Michael Jordan's a

1076
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: a cultural icon which is transcended sports different sports, it's

1077
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: just a different deal for what he did. And I

1078
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: remember when Michael retired from the NBA where NBA reratings

1079
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: just went downsh he was just a different deal man.

1080
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like Michael Jordan in his ability

1081
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: to connect. I mean, just remember this what we saw

1082
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: this summer during the pandemic, the Last Dance. I mean,

1083
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: people sitting around here wanting to watch something that happen

1084
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: twenty years ago and the amazing ratings that it got.

1085
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: That's how legitimate that guy still is today. Luca don

1086
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Mavericks, he's got it. He's got a

1087
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: Jordan count. He never saw Jordan play, but this guy,

1088
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: you know, it's being twenty one years old. I want

1089
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: to be with Michael Jordan's company. I want to wear

1090
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: his shoes. Um, that's that's a tremendous impact on the

1091
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: sporting landscape, cultural landscape to the United States, or if

1092
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: you're talking, you know, polarizing athletes and just like the icons,

1093
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: you definitely got to put Mike Jordan up there. I mean,

1094
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: he's up there with Michael Jackson as far as just

1095
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: people around the world recognizing this guy. So I wouldn't

1096
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: put Tom Brady in that type of gad glory. But

1097
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: if we're talking about just winning and just winning, like

1098
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: just being just a winner all around, I mean, I

1099
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: don't know, it's kind of hard to beat what Tom

1100
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: has done so far. I mean, I know Jordan was

1101
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: undefeated in the finals, but I mean Brady went to

1102
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: ten of them things. I mean, this is I don't

1103
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: know as unprecedented. Man, I'm not sure where you put it.

1104
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: But this is why this is why I say, to me,

1105
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: football it's a lot, it's a lot. The difficulty level

1106
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: of doing what Tom Brady did in his sport is

1107
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: I think higher than what Michael Jordan did in his sport.

1108
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: I just I just think it is. I think that basketball,

1109
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: so Michael Jordan's you know, five five guys on the

1110
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: court you shot go in whatever. He could just take

1111
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: over the game. These are things tough like as a

1112
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 1: football player of eleven guys are on the same page.

1113
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: They can't get done. Tom Brady can't just throw the

1114
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: ball down the field to itself and kept a touchdown

1115
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: like the It's different. It's different to me. I think

1116
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: it's harder, like taking another away from basketball and and

1117
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan what he's done. If you watch the game

1118
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: of football, single game eliminations in the playoffs, sixteen games,

1119
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: sixteen times to get it done, I think it's just

1120
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: totally different. The level level of difficulty is a little

1121
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: a little harder for a football Tom Brady has done

1122
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: this all the way up to forty three and won

1123
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl at the age of forty three after

1124
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: switching teams during the pandemic. And we sat up here

1125
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: we talked about Michael and I and and hit me

1126
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: and that I forgot to mention just Tiger Woods, the

1127
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: dominance that Tiger had and taking it out, taking a

1128
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 1: sport that was on if he had a ten page

1129
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: paper that was on page nine and put it on

1130
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: the front page. So so for me, Danny, when I

1131
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: when I think about your greatest of all time, it's

1132
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: your sport, but also just what else you did within

1133
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: it to take your sport to a whole different level.

1134
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: And Tom's fantastic, but I mean Michael took basketball worldwide

1135
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: when and I remember when Dirt retired, how how he

1136
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: I mean, they brought out Larry Bird, they brought out

1137
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen and Charles Barkley. Those guys all spoke about

1138
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: that dream team in nineteen ninety two when they went

1139
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: to the Olympics, and that was the first time they

1140
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, they really took pros and they put them internationally.

1141
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: And now you look at what we have today, Luka

1142
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: Donci and all the great player Janis at a ten kopo.

1143
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: This spawn from Jordan. When you watch when you watch golf,

1144
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: guys go out there with Jordan Cleats. I mean, that's

1145
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: that's crazy, man. When you think about that football players

1146
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: wearing Jordan's baseball players, you know, David probably rolling Jordan

1147
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: Cleets out there. I mean just Tom Brady, has he

1148
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: has he become that worldwide icon? Has he become that

1149
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: that's you know, I think those are two different categories. Yeah, yeah,

1150
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: because if there's there's not gonna be on international football,

1151
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: like like overseas. Basketball is a thing like football is

1152
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: an American sport, right, So you can say, like Jordan

1153
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: went over there and changed the game, and you saw

1154
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: this and did all this. Football ain't never going outside

1155
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: of America the way that basketball is. No matter how

1156
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: many Super Bowls Tom Brady wins, and no matter how

1157
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: culture changing he was, that is going to be an

1158
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: American sports. So I think it's that that's different. Yeah,

1159
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: basketball had the opportunity to go do that and being

1160
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: the Olympics and all that stuff, and it ain't gonna

1161
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: Football is not gonna be an Olympic sport because that's

1162
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: something we do here in America and really specifically in America.

1163
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: But that's what I talk about the greatest of all time.

1164
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: What you're able to then take what you do and

1165
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: spread it. I think that that to me, to me,

1166
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: when I think about that, that's what the kind of

1167
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: criteria I put in. And when you talk about the

1168
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: say of Michael Jackson, you talk about the Beatles, people

1169
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: that were able to just change fundamentally change the way

1170
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: what they do is and how it's done. Did you've

1171
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: rewritten and you said, okay, there's okay, here's here's I'll

1172
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 1: go with what Howard Bryan once wrote about Hank Aaron

1173
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: versus Barry Bonds, how Barry Bonds became the all time

1174
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: home run leader. He said, there is a record holder

1175
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: and then there's a standard bear. And when I think

1176
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: about the greatest of all time and what you've done,

1177
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: I think of standard bears like a Muhammad Ali and

1178
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: Michael George, people that are taken and it become really

1179
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: some of the most famous folks in the entire world

1180
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: across the planet. That's what I think of him. And

1181
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: I think Tom Brady's sensational in the NFL. You can

1182
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: make the argument he's the greatest football player of all time.

1183
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: But when I think about the greatest athletes of all time,

1184
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: I think about how they've gone beyond their sport and

1185
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: that's that's something that I think Jordan did and even

1186
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: Ali did. I can't say that Tom Brady's done that.

1187
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: If you put it in that category, then I would

1188
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: have to agree with you on that. If we're you know,

1189
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about icon status and how he you know,

1190
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: how people I've reached, you know, other cultures across the world,

1191
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: I would definitely have to put you know, Jordan up there,

1192
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Tiger Woods of the world, the Muhammad Ali.

1193
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: I would have to put him up there in that category.

1194
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: But um so, But to me, like I said, I

1195
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: go back to it thinking, you know, I think it's

1196
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: two different, separate categories. I think if we're talking about

1197
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: specifically just winning and the championships and being that guy

1198
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: for that long, for twenty some years after, you go

1199
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: with Brady. But if you're talking about a world right now,

1200
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, icon polarizing athlete just going off just athletics

1201
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: and what he's been to the game, then I would

1202
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: I would have to go Michael Jordan on that one. Listen, hey, listen, hey,

1203
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: don't fool y'allselves now, right because it sounds like you're saying, uh,

1204
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is not internationally recognizable, all right, That ain't true.

1205
00:58:50,880 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: People say people recognize Tom Brady. But listen, I understand

1206
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Nuie. I just think, you know, you know,

1207
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: to to Tom Brady and in the NFL, I think, man,

1208
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: it's such a domestic sport that I don't see it

1209
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: ever being changed the way that basketball is and some

1210
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: of these other sports to where you could take this

1211
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: stuff to to to the UK and all that and

1212
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: then get other players and other leagues and be able

1213
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: to do the same thing that the NBA has done.

1214
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you'll ever see anybody be

1215
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: able to change the NFL that way. But I think

1216
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: Tom Brady has changed the way that some of these

1217
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and free agents will will be looking at how

1218
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: they change teams and how they bring their players to

1219
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: the team with them and having a little bit more

1220
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: say so and what they do when they do swiss

1221
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: these teams because they see Tom Brady do it, just

1222
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: like Lebron James changed and when he went to Miami.

1223
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: I think that Tom Brady just did the same thing

1224
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, and I know we we we

1225
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: spoke about Bill Russell a little bit, but it's pretty

1226
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: amazing when you think about how Bill Russell became the

1227
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: first black head coach in the end yay, and was

1228
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: the coach of the self. That's why he was playing

1229
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: as a player. Coaching it went to championship any sport.

1230
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm gonna become the first black

1231
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: dude to do it, and I'm gonna get all these

1232
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: white guys to say it's cool you can tell me

1233
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: what to do and you can dictate my time, and

1234
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna go win the championship. Um Man, that's some

1235
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: trailblazing right there. That's some trailblazing right there. But but

1236
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: it is, it's it's pretty and that's my DEFINITIONES is

1237
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: different than other people's and that's why I kind of

1238
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: brought it there. And like I said, you guys are

1239
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: younger than I am, and I remember when I grew up,

1240
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: the NBA was not you know, the NBA wasn't bigger

1241
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: than the NFL, wasn't bigger than baseball, it wasn't bigger

1242
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: than college football. And for it to become as big

1243
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: as it is today, um, it was Michael Jordan really

1244
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: helped take it Sky Magic and Michael saved the league,

1245
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean magic and Larry Bird saved the league and

1246
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: then Michael took it to a whole nother stratosphere which

1247
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: it operates today and it's it's absolutely loved. All right, Hey,

1248
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: that's an hour, Um boy, Blue Bosun is always is

1249
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: who back? Yeah I don't see yeah, I don't see him. Well, okay,

1250
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: his chair is empty. I got nervous, all right, So

1251
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: we'll be back next week to have our disagreement somewhere.

1252
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: But we're all in agreement that JJ Watt to the

1253
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,959
Speaker 1: Cowboys is not something they should do, right. Nah, absolutely, Okay,

1254
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: we agree. Okay, yeah, okay, so we agree no jj Watt.

1255
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: We it's two verses. One on what to do with

1256
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: the tenth pick in the draft. Danny wants an offensive

1257
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: tackle Church and I believe it should be a different

1258
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: defensive player. So we'll continue to mine through that. And um, Danny,

1259
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to give me a name at some

1260
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: point in time or who you want to see at ten.

1261
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: Penei Seul from Oregon is not going to be there

1262
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: at ten. So if you want to from nor stop it.

1263
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: We got we got CD dam last year, so I mean,

1264
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean, so it's not impossible. Well, nobody thought seen

1265
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Speaker 1: Lamp was gonna be there when we picked them. Is

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Speaker 1: We should have went back to back defensive. That's that's

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Speaker 1: another thing. That's a story for another day. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: we need we should have went back to back defense,

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