1 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: Well to night you're still in Australia for a short 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: period of time. It's a shame there was no men's champion, 3 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: but we have lots to talk about with the other 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: events A Rhenish Sablanca. 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 6 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: What do you mean there's no men's went on because 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: you didn't get up and watch it. 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: I just don't recognize the match that took place. I 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: don't recognize it. So I instead wanted to talk about 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: the things that I was excited about, which is pretty 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: much everything else. That said. If you feel like you 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: need you not me, but you need to have some 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: commentary on this our Australia Open recap episode, then I 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to stop you. 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Listen, here's the deal, like you gotta where it's credit 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: is to you. 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: And the fact that Novak Djokovic and everyone was like, 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: you know, who's the favorite? I'm like, are you guys 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: smoking crack? I mean, there's only one favorite going to 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: this strain and Open. I mean, let's face it, like 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: the French Open is owned and will be owned by 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: Raffia and Nadal until he breaks a leg or you know, 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: has a hip operation, which you know it doesn't look 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: good for him going into this year's French Open with 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: what's going on. But you know, Novak just came down 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: here with such vengeance to win everything one Adelaide one 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: Melbourne again, his tenth Grand Slam title. It's unbelievable. The 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: guy's are backboard. He doesn't miss a ball under pressure. 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 3: I mean two tie breaks that were just absolutely hollacious 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 3: from Stefano Sits a pass when he had a chance 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: to get back in the match, particularly the second set. 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: I thought maybe if he wins a second set, we 33 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: might have a match on our hands. It was like 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: a football arena. The entire match was crazy with the fans. 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: The only thing I'll say about this Serbian fans is 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: that I have been in the crowd at the austral 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: And Open next to Serbian fans when he was playing, 38 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: and it is not a fun environment. 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: And I say that, and I don't want to take. 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: Away like their enthusiasm for him, and I don't want 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: to take away the enthusiasm for it being there paying 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: money to watch him play. But it's so loud, and 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: it's every point and it's NonStop, and you know it 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: was when he played Andy Murray and it was that 45 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: time that Andy Murray was getting so pissed with them. 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: But it's like, guys, like you have to understand, like 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: I love the enthusiasm for your player, but you have 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: to understand there's other people around you too that it's 49 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: just like, oh, just trying to enjoy a tennis match. 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: And then so that's the only one thing I want 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: to say about it. I don't want to take. 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: Away the fact that they love the guy and they 53 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: support him, and he's, you know, going to go down as. 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: The greatest player of all the time. 55 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: This guy is going to win twenty seven or twenty 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: eight Grand Slams, there's no doubt about it. And he 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: was just phenomenal last night under pressure, and you got 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: to give credit where it's due. The guy just locks 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: in and doesn't miss a ball under pressure, and it's 60 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: an unbelievable thing to watch. 61 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: To be honest, I totally think you're right. I think 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: a couple of things. I think part of the Serbian 63 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: energy is this siege mentality, and I think this idea 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: that you're under siege, your culture is under siege, you're 65 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: under attack, you're surrounded by enemies. You know, it's a 66 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: really useful motivator for Novak Djokovic, and it has been 67 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: for the better part of his career, playing at least 68 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: the first chunk of it, while two other of the 69 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: Big three were dominant and he was sort of seen 70 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: as the enveloper. Right now, there's no doubt his head 71 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: to heads against both of those other guys was never 72 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: particularly compelling to make the case that they could have 73 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: held a candle to him, just in terms of, you know, 74 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: overall win, overall success rate, you know. But I think 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: the siege mentality is also what makes so much of 76 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: this so ugly, with the father posing in the crowd 77 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: with putin and war shirts, which is why everybody's talking 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: about what a battle he's been through these last couple 79 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: of years. Well, it's a battle that he created because 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: he wouldn't follow the rules, right Like, I don't have 81 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: a lot to say about his tennis, which is unimpeachable. 82 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he was better than the field by several 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: lords of magnitude, full stop period. I didn't think Jeff 84 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: was going to give him a match. Step didn't give 85 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: him a match. I didn't wake up for it. And 86 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: I don't love my matches, you know, lopsided and non compelling, 87 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: which is what I find a lot of the times 88 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: when there's not anybody who can really step to Novak. 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: But having done a couple of projects, notably a documentary 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: film about the Serbian genocide against the Bosnians, the idea 91 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: that the Serbian victim mentality has permeated into Novak Djokovic's 92 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: narrative is something that I just wholly am not interested 93 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: in as a dynamic in tennis. So people can love him, 94 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: people can enjoy him, and that's just not for me. 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: I also do think, especially because we're going to have 96 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: I think you're right, probably seven or you know, maybe 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: eight more Slams that he can win in the next 98 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: few years before age predictably will catch up with him. 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that we want to think 100 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: of the greatest of all time as the person who's 101 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: won the most slams. Are they the greatest of all 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 1: times at winning slams? 103 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: Sure? 104 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Are they the greatest of all time at winning all 105 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: the tournaments? Maybe that's Martine de Radalova, who's won all 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: three categories of tournaments by such a wide margin when 107 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: that mattered more, you know, So for me, like the 108 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: goat race. The slam race has never been that fun, 109 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: and I don't particularly want to watch him catching up. 110 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: But I was really disappointed in the men's side that 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: nobody really could make it much of an effort. My guy, 112 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: my pick Sinner, didn't do much. Runa pulled out with 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: an injury. Steph had an otherwise good tournament but kind 114 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: of couldn't get it done. Medvedev has completely disappeared, so 115 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: it's sort of like the guys who have been able 116 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: to push him didn't really show up to the tournament. 117 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: And unless I'm missing somebody, I don't know. 118 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: Guy that was ranked number number one going into tournament. 119 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: And Alcarez, I mean, of course, I think I think 120 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: the only player that really can go toe to toe 121 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: with Novak in these situations. And it would have been 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: really I've got to tell you, it would have been 123 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: really great to see Alcarez like at his very best 124 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: at the train and Open, because I think he has 125 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: the hutzpa and the and the you know, the cajones, 126 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: like go on the court with Novak and actually say, 127 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: all right, bro, I know you're the best. I know 128 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: you don't miss under pressure, I know all this other 129 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: of stuff. 130 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: And I am youthful and enthusiastic and I will bring it. 131 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: I mean, it would have been nice to see someone 132 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: like a Rune, for example, like get through and maybe 133 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: test him at least in a set or two, because 134 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: these young guys like Rune and Alcarez. 135 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: Actually believe that they physically can. 136 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: Match Novak now because of their youth and their enthusiasm 137 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: and there and their ability to play tennis. I mean, 138 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: look those two, those two guys in particular, really, I 139 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: think Sinner will get there. I really believe that Sina 140 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: will win a Grand Slam in the next few years. 141 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: I think he's so good. I think he's just got 142 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: to get that mongrel bit pissed off at attitude sometimes 143 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: on the court because he's such a nice guy. 144 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, and he did look a little soft, but 145 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: his game is totally there, And you're right, Alcarez would 146 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: have been an electrifying presence in the draw. And I 147 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: think for me, I'm just I've been so over the 148 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: big three for so long that I'm especially Novak, who's 149 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: tennis like, I just don't enjoy it's it's it's perfect, 150 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: it's it's very safe. In terms of his percentages, it's 151 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: extremely adaptable. He goes from offense to the defense unimpeachably. 152 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: It just doesn't really do much for me. And then 153 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: you add on all the other malarkey with, you know, 154 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: the unforced errors of all of his decisions and his 155 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: coterie and his politics and all this stuff, and it's 156 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: just like, no thanks, I will change the channel and 157 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: watch all of the other amazing tennis, which we had 158 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: so much of that it was so easy to ignore 159 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: the men's snoozefest of a draw because after the first 160 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: week in any Murray being out and Nadal being out, 161 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: and Bartini and the young guys not getting it done. 162 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: The women, we didn't need the a men's draw because 163 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: the women brought it. They brought it, Renee, this was 164 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: the final I wanted. This was the winner I chose, 165 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: But the pathway that they both took to get there. 166 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: You did pick Sabalanka. 167 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: I picked her because I thought maybe it was her time. 168 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: And I am so delighted to have been right. And 169 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: you know what, you don't want to know why I'm 170 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: so delighted to have been right, because now everybody with 171 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: her batshit photo shoot poses on the gondola, her crazy hysterics, 172 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: her just all of it, her joy, her drama has 173 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: now been amplified to the rest of the world, and 174 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: now everyone can join me in appreciating her. Because what 175 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: I love about her is not only her fearless tennis. 176 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: I love the fact that she's in a lot of ways, 177 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: Yolena Yankovic's spiritual inheritor, don't you think. 178 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: With a bigger game and a bigger serve. Yes, I 179 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: do agree with that, Like, yeah, you're right, Like that's 180 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: sort of the edgy crazy sort of like here I am, 181 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear like I'm going to be a model, 182 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: although I'm a tennis player. I want to be. 183 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: I mean, she said it on the pod with me 184 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: that she would like to do modeling and all this 185 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 3: sort of stuff. So she's embracing all this whatever comes 186 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: with fame. She loves every bit of it. She's got 187 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: the TikTok, she's got the you know, the Instagram, she's 188 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: got the model posts. 189 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: She's I mean, she's posing in her like cheap how 190 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: with the Chinese swords. Her crazy photo shoot where she's 191 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: on the gondola with her dog and she's in this 192 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: pink and the heels and the stuff. I mean, if 193 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: anybody has not seen it, who's listening to this, do 194 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: yourself a favor and google Arena Sablanca Australian Open Trophy shoot. 195 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: Because the photo shoot from this, I'm thinking about having 196 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: it commemorated in plates like they do with the Royal wedding, 197 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: and you get China like I want this as I 198 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: want this around my house. I want a painting of this. 199 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: It's so extra and nuts and it's what I thought 200 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: was in her heart all these years watching her play fearless, 201 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: big time scary tennis. And I mean that in both ways, 202 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: scary to be inside her head, but also maybe scary 203 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: to be on the other side of the net and 204 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: hearing her on the podcast you did with her. She's 205 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: just so much. She's so much of everything. 206 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: And I love that She's I think the best word 207 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: to describe her, as you just said, is extra. She 208 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, Okay, So I want to go 209 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: back to the match a little bit. I sitting, as 210 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: you know, courtside covering the match for ESPN, and I said, 211 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: on a couple of occasions, and I remember in the 212 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: third set, I sat there and I said, guys, I've 213 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: sat here for many many matches at the Austrail Open. 214 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: I've seen it all. 215 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: I've seen the last decade plus final women's finals on 216 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: that court, and this is the biggest hitting match I've 217 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: ever seen in my life. And you know, of course 218 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 3: we had big hitters. We had the lenars who could 219 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: you know, pop the ball pretty good. Of course, Kim 220 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: Kleister's Maria sharapovers you know as a Ranco heard her 221 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: very best. 222 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: But you know, of course Serena and Venus and all 223 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: these lindsay all of them. 224 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: But for me sitting courtside, I've seen the ones that 225 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: I mentioned win the tournament and oh my god, like 226 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: it was like the both of them, Rebakina and Sabalanca, 227 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: both of them, just if you laid the egg short 228 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: in the court, it was crushed. 229 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: It was scrambled, egged in like one second. 230 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: There was nothing that you could do if the ball 231 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: landed short. They just there was no mercy, There was 232 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: no I'm going to choke this, I'm not I'm not 233 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: going to hit it. They just like seaball hippo. It 234 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: was like, as our great friend Mary Carrillo coined and 235 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: I used it on the coverage, big babe tennis, both 236 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: of them at six foot tall. Saberlenca I think six 237 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: and Rebuking is like feels like six to one. I mean, 238 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: they were just they started the match with seven aces 239 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: in the first two and a half days. 240 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: I was we were like, what do we watching fucking 241 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: like sampress and like. 242 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, totally. 243 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. 244 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: They were clocking the ball one hundred and eighty something 245 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: case you know, which is almost one hundred and you know, 246 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty miles an hour, that their groundstrokes were 247 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: heavier and harder than the average of sits a pass 248 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,119 Speaker 3: and Djokovic. 249 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: We showed that stat We have such a and and 250 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: the thing that I loved there was no choking. 251 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: They just went for it from first point to last point, 252 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: even the last point when Saberlenka finally like I was 253 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: sitting next to Barbara Sheep, oh god, the. 254 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: Last couple observes with the double faults, and everybody was 255 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: on the edge of their seat knowing where she's been. 256 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: But we're sitting there, I'm sitting literally courtside with Barbara 257 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: shap because she was covering it for Eurosport. Next to 258 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: her was Laura Robson covering it for the World Feed 259 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: and TA and next to her was Casey de Lack. 260 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: We're covering it for the Australian Network. 261 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: And we're all looking each other after the third match 262 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: point loss and we're all like, oh my god. 263 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 2: We're all starting to sweat because. 264 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: We've all been there, right, We've all been there in 265 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: situations where we're like, oh my god, oh my god, 266 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 3: you can't lose the match now, surely, you know. We're 267 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: all like can she Is she gonna do it? Is 268 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: she gonna hold serve? And we're all like pretty confident. 269 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: We're like, yeah, yeah, she's gonna do it. She's gonna 270 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: do it. And then she starts out the you know, 271 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: I think, remarking a hit like a screaming winner on 272 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: the first point, and we're like, oh shit, you know. 273 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: And then she gets the match points and loses the 274 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: match points and can't get a first serve in under pressure, 275 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: and we're like, oh my god, we're all having hot. 276 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: We're all in like hives started breaking out in all 277 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: of us because we all felt, i mean, none of 278 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: us are served for a Grand Slam Singles title, but 279 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: we all know what it feels to have that moment 280 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: of panic, like, oh my god, it I can't lose now, 281 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: I've had match point on my serve. And then and 282 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: I'll tell you a funny story. So where we see 283 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: it is right with the photographers, and every time she 284 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: had a match point, there was a ball kid that. 285 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: Would run on the other side. 286 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 3: So they had one kid on one side, one kid 287 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: on the other and of course all the photographers were 288 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: yelling at the ball kid, bulkhead, go to the other side, 289 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: go to the other side, because they wanted like that 290 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: clear shot for the you know, the champions pose. And 291 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: every time on match point, bull kid in front of them, 292 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 3: and they were screaming and yelling. I've never heard any 293 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,359 Speaker 3: of it was so hilarious. 294 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: Right, and then sure enough. 295 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: She gets to the fourth I believe it was the 296 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: fourth match point, and sure enough the ball kid goes 297 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: on the other side. So there's this clear shot. And 298 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: I said to them, all guys and girls, get ready. 299 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: And I also was filming the match point, and I 300 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: decided not to film the last one. I said, the bubbsy, 301 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: you film it and just send me the footage. And 302 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: I said, this is it. You finally got your clear shot. 303 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: She's gonna win this point, right, And sure enough she did. 304 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: But she hits the serve. It's perfect serve, nails it 305 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: down the tee and Rebakeina smashes it back on her 306 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: weaker side on the forehand hits the back of the 307 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: line and we're all like, we thought it was going 308 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: out no. 309 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: Call because they're electronic. 310 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: I'm calling, and we're like, oh my god, she makes 311 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: the backhand. I don't know how she made. 312 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: That incredible, incredible picker. 313 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: That was such I mean, her strength is unbelievable. Then 314 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: Rebeccina hits her predictable forehand cross court and sabs runs 315 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: over and hits an amazing forehand cross She could have 316 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: choked that forehand because of what you know transpired just 317 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: before and the fact that she's probably thinking, you're fucking 318 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: kidding me. 319 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: I've just played the. 320 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: Best perfect serve. 321 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly everything you know, and she hits it great. 322 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: And then Rebeccina missus beforehand, and you know, we saw 323 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: the joy and. 324 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: She was palpably joyous in a way that was so wonderful. 325 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: To say it, Caitlyn, I said it on the on 326 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: the pod. I said it on the coverage. 327 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: I finally got to be able to say it, you know, 328 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: at some point, and I said, this girl lost her 329 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: father four years ago. You know, it was just not 330 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: not not that removed from when I did the podcast 331 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: with her, and her dad was a big influence in 332 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: her tennis life. He's the one that brought her her 333 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: first racket and took her first tennis courts and was 334 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: really her influence in getting into tennis. And I thought, 335 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: when is that going that moment going to hit her 336 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: that he's not there, you know, to experience this. And 337 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: we saw it when she won the match and started crying, 338 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: and then when she walked towards her player box and 339 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: she looked up and there's a great photo. I believe 340 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: it might be on her Instagram and she said she 341 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: she didn't acknowledge him in the speech, but she acknowledged 342 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: him in her in her Instagram feed and said, my 343 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: dad would have been really proud of me. And there 344 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: was that moment when she's walking and she looks up 345 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: to the sky and you know that she was thinking 346 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: about her father in that moment and everything she went 347 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: through last year she couldn't hit to serve in the 348 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: courts serving under Am twelve months ago and to step 349 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: up there and serve for the match and win her 350 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: first grandson title, it was just it was an I'm 351 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: like still speechless forty eight hours later. It was one 352 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: of the best and most incredible performances I've ever seen 353 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: in my life as a reporter, as a journalist, as 354 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: a court side person, and as a tennis fan. And 355 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: I was so happy for her. Incredible and Rebakena give 356 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: her her flowers. Man, what an amazing match she played 357 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: as well. And you know, she got screwed last year 358 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: not getting the points from Wimbledon, and now hopefully she's 359 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: going to be seated where she's supposed to be seated 360 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: because she's literally one of the top three players in 361 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: the world. 362 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: When we saw that matchup, and I think everybody who 363 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: watched the tournament as closely as you and I did, 364 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: in terms of the field that these two had to 365 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: go through to get into the finals, I mean, it 366 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: could not have been a higher caliber, could not have been. 367 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Rebacchina alone beat three former champions of the event, sorry, 368 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: three former Grand Slam champions and Sebolenka you saw in 369 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: that semi final. Even though Magdal Lynette really only pushed 370 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: her for a set. It was not an easy set, 371 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: and that is the exact moment that four times she 372 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: has wilted because with her great, fearless sort of total 373 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: id style play comes with and also like a submission 374 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: to that id and the baggage that her motions can 375 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: seize her in a bad way too, just the way 376 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: that she can, you know, be in this like incredible 377 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: headspace where she's fearless and hitting you know, the biggest 378 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: baalsiest shots you can imagine. And so for me to 379 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: see her relax her shoulders after that semi final win, 380 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: you could see it. She was past that hurdle. You 381 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: could sort of what you were describing with her looking 382 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: up to the sky. When she won match point hitting 383 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: that inside out fourhand against Lynette, she pumped her fists 384 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: and then let her shoulders relax because you could tell 385 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: she's carrying that because when she came onto the scene 386 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, I remember you and I 387 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: talked about her then. This was kind of when she 388 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: was in the middle of her tear, it seemed inevitable 389 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: that she would be raising so many Grand Slam trophies 390 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: over her head and then just kind of the mental 391 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: blockage that kept her and obviously to your point about 392 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: the serve kept her from really being in that late 393 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: stage of slam tournaments. Was really beautiful to see her process, 394 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: and I think for me watching not only the pathways 395 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: they took, the quality matches they had up to that point, 396 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: the incredible tension in a good way tension filled final 397 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: that was just about who seized the point first. To me, 398 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: you could show that match to people who don't necessarily 399 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: follow tennis and watch them be amazed by it. And 400 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: that was on TV where your commentary was excellent. I 401 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: thought the final commentary was unimpeachable, and in fact, I 402 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: learned so much about why both of them were having 403 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: a little harder time with their serves because they liked 404 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: to kick the ball out wide on the second serves, 405 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 1: which goes into both of their strengths with is their 406 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: high backhands, so they were both limited on what they 407 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: could do with the second serves. Like I really enjoyed 408 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: and kind of hung on a lot of the words 409 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: that you guys were saying, which was so illuminating, and 410 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: I really feel like you could use that as a 411 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: lesson and like this is tennis at its finest. I 412 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: would have loved to have been there just to understand 413 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: how much abuse these tennis balls got, because it looks 414 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: unbelievably ferocious in a way that it exceeded my expectations. 415 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: And I had really high expectations. You know. 416 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 3: I was pulling foot as a rank hit to win, 417 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: and for one reason, I wanted to see a different 418 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: matchup in the final. I want to see a player 419 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: that could make a lot of balls and a player 420 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: that would go for it. So I liked the contrasting finals. 421 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: I like the retrieving person that's not going to miss 422 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 3: a lot against a big hitter, you know that. 423 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: You know, I love when I say a Sabolenka would play. 424 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 3: I was Niaki for example, because you're getting that contrast 425 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 3: and you're always going to get good points for example. 426 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: Right. 427 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: So I was a little bit like, oh, this is 428 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 3: not this We're not going to have a rally over 429 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: two shots. 430 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: This is going to be a bit of a tough watch. 431 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be I'd admit it. That's kind of 432 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: what I was thinking. 433 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: And then the first couple of games, I was like, 434 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: oh no, oh, this is just going to be freaking 435 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: this is going to be, like I said it, big babe, tennis. 436 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: They're just going to. 437 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: Clock the ball and this is going to be who's 438 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: going to be standing at the end, And it was. 439 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: It's exactly what it was. And I have to just 440 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: refer to two things. 441 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: One, Sabolenka hit the scene really a bunch of years ago, 442 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: and the biggest match that she played, the first really 443 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 3: big match she played was on Rod Labor against Ash 444 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: Buddy about five years ago. And she was when Ash 445 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: was making her come back and she played against Sabolenka 446 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 3: and Sablenka had this you know, enormous grunt and it 447 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: was a bit over the top and she was, you know, 448 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: like she's now, but even worse, like really crazy and 449 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: screaming and yelling and carrying on like a bit. 450 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: Of a pork chop. 451 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: And the crowd and I was caught side for seven, 452 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: the seven network in Australia, and the crowd were relentless 453 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: against her, like kind of you know, mimicking the Grant 454 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: and you know, kind of giving her a hard time. 455 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: It was a bit embarrassing as an Australian. I was like, 456 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: come on, guys, I mean, she's just a tennis player. 457 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: She was probably like seventeen at the time, like or eighteen, 458 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: and it was just a lot and they gave a 459 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: lot of shit and Ash sort of said something about 460 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 3: it in the postmatch interview that I did with her 461 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: where you know, so so I felt really badly for her, 462 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: but that was her first real big match, and you know, 463 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: come to think of it, like, what is it five 464 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 3: years later or whenever it was. 465 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: She ends up winning the tournament with great support too. 466 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: The crowd was so interesting because they didn't really have 467 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: a favorite to pull for because they kind of were 468 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 3: just like enjoying the and it was so nice to 469 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: actually sit there, particularly after the year before watching you know, 470 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: Ash Party play Danielle Collins, where it was like Ash 471 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: would win a point, it was like. 472 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: Major clapping and cheering and. 473 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: Just over the top support, which, look, she's a nausey 474 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 3: trying to win Austrain Open for the first time in 475 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: a hundred years, right, not one hundred years, but a 476 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: long time. And then daniel Collins would play the most 477 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 3: amazing point. It was like crickets. There was like seven 478 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: people clapping for her in the box, so it was 479 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 3: like this really weird, you know, like cheering, no cheering, cheering, 480 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 3: no cheering. And then so in the final, it was 481 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: like every point was cheered because they were so enamored 482 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: with how good the tennis was from both of them, 483 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: Like honestly that there was no who's pulling for who? 484 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: Even in the last game, I mean, everyone felt sorry 485 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: for Sabalanca at some point, probably thinking hopefully she wins, 486 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: but their flip side was they wanted more of the tennis. 487 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: So it was such an enjoyable yeah. 488 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: And the last thing I want to say, the first 489 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: point of the match, she steps up to the line, 490 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: she wins to toash, she says, I'm going to serve, right, 491 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: think about this, this girl could not hit a serve 492 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: in the court twelve months ago. She goes up to 493 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 3: the line, she's served so well the whole tournament double fault, 494 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: and the whole crowd literally, Caitlin, it was just this, Yeah, 495 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: fifteen thousand people just go oh and it. 496 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: Was so funny. Turns around, God love her and gets 497 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: the ball and starts. 498 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: Laughing because she's just like, oh my god, what a 499 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 3: way to start the final. 500 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: Way to go, Arena kind of attude, get up, yeah, 501 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: and then. 502 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: She gets the ball steps up the line and goes 503 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: bang with an ace like you just and then I 504 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: think she aced like two or three times in that game, 505 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: and you and I said on coverage and we're talking 506 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: about maybe is it going to come back to Honda, 507 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 3: and I said, and I know she double folded a bunch, 508 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: but I think it was because she was trying not 509 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: to hit that kick. 510 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Serve and totally it's trying to go for a little 511 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 2: bit more. 512 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: And all looks like a problem kick serve. It looked 513 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: like she had to go for a lot because she 514 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: knew the return was going to be so good, which 515 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: is a totally different thing. And I know we keep 516 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: hoping on this, but for anybody who has not played 517 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: competitive level tennis, having the yips on any one of 518 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: your shots is a natemare. It's a living natemare. Having 519 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: the yips on your serve is hard to describe the 520 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: depths of mental anguish that it is, especially if it 521 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: is your weapon, as it is for Arena Seblinka, as 522 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: it was for you, and honestly as it was for me. 523 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Not being able to serve, not being able to know 524 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: that you're going to go up there and at least 525 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: be able to get it in and have a slow 526 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: decline of just fault after fault with the serve taking 527 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: an adventure is it's gut wrenching in an almost literal sense, 528 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: and it's hard to imagine coming back from that in 529 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: any way, much less the way she has done. 530 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: I had nightmares. I didn't have the yips on my swing. 531 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: I had the yips a little bit on my ball 532 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: toss for a period of time. And I can tell 533 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: you the night before my Wimbledon, first wimen and final, 534 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 3: I was having nightmares about it like that I wasn't 535 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: going to be able to get a serve in on 536 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: my you know center called at Wimbledon. I managed to 537 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: do it. It was fine, But you've got to fight 538 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 3: through those things. So yeah, it's pretty incredible to what 539 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: she's been able to do and in. 540 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: But one thing. 541 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: Sitting beside Barbara Schett and you know, we share information 542 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: sometimes when we're sitting there with each other because we're, 543 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, both so tennis orientated and we're true analysts. 544 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 3: She said, you know what, the good thing about her 545 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: serve being so shit, you know, and so unpredictable last 546 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: year is it made her a better player because she 547 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: couldn't rely on the free points on her serf, so 548 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: it actually made her play better tennis from the baseline. 549 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what, You're right, and 550 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: that is so yeah. 551 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean, she's still finished top five in the in 552 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: the world and made the Tour finals despite the fact 553 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: that she had double digit an average of double digit 554 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: double faults in a in matches, like it's hard to 555 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: imagine game away. You're giving half the game away every 556 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: single time, Like it's crazy. So I feel like for me, 557 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: the Arena seven Lanka story was just so so wonderful 558 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: and I loved Geary. In our newsletter this week, talked 559 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: about how she visited a biomechanical specialist and kind of 560 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: to your I want the person. How can I get 561 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: this guy from my forehand. I need that I watched. 562 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that could take a year or two's time. 563 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: I guess he worked on I can tell you in 564 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 3: Cincinnati when I was there with Sam, when I was 565 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: on the side courts, you know, off off a site, 566 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: there's an off site practice site. She was over there 567 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: working with him, and I mean they were tinkering with 568 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: their hand position, with their elbow. 569 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: Position, with the ball position. 570 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 3: That was unbelievable how much because she was just like, 571 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 3: what can I do to make this better? And was 572 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 3: not in Australia and I don't think she's working with 573 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: him anymore, but you know, because there's only so much 574 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: he can do paralysis by analysis, and you know, the 575 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: one thing that's notable is that her second serve kicker, 576 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: which she never had before. She would just go for 577 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: a slower or a little bitsally, and. 578 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: That that has really helped. 579 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: That really helped her, you know, get the serve in 580 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: the court and feel like she could do it. So anyway, 581 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 3: I just want to praise Arena Sabalanca and she's finally 582 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: through that nightmare semi final couple of losses to be 583 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: able to step up in the greatest of ways and 584 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: play one of the greatest matches I've ever seen by 585 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: two players. I want to give Rebarkina her flowers as well. 586 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: Just incredible a match from her. She's young, She's only 587 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: going to get better. Her forehand needs to improve. She 588 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: really struggles hitting it down the line, so it's a 589 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: you know, it's a work in progress with this young woman, 590 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: and she's. 591 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: Really excited to see her backing up her Wimbledon win, 592 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: which was deserved with a really really incredible tournament. Like 593 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: I love so much when players are able to put 594 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: it together that way and continue to improve and get 595 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: that experience under the belt, because what to me results 596 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: is you get good tennis. Like one of the things 597 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: I was so disappointed about it was phenomenal to watch 598 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: Ans Gibber last year. Phenomenal. My Syrian family were losing 599 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: their minds that a player from the Arab world was 600 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, just all the reasons. She's compelling, she's fun, 601 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: she's awesome. I do think her not having played a 602 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: final for a Grand Slam before going into that Wimbledon 603 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: final really hurt her because she freaked out mentally and 604 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: it took her a set to even show up against 605 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: Ega in the US Open. You know, she got out 606 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: played in the US Open. I don't want to take 607 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: anything away from Ega, but to me, Anz's lack of 608 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: experience in those Grand Slam finals was a result. The 609 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: result was nerves and her inability to kind of show 610 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: up and really play her best tennis. And I think 611 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: what I like about rebakin it and now hopefully Sablanca 612 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: is just this idea that they've been there, and so 613 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: what we get as a treat as viewers is we 614 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: get to see better tennis. Nothing is more dispiriting to 615 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: me than watching one player just be like fall apart. 616 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: It's tough. It's really tough to watch. I do want 617 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: to point out also, because we were talking about Novak 618 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: Djokovic and Serbian nationalism at the top, I think it's 619 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: awesome that fans travel, they're loud, they support their guy. 620 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: I have never loved the nationalism angle in tennis. I 621 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: don't love it. Most of these players live in Florida 622 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: or Monaco or you know, Switzerland or someplace that's sort 623 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: of neutral anyway, and the idea that like you would 624 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: cheer for a player. And again, I know Ashbarty having 625 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: not delivered an Australian Open title since Yvonne Goolagong is 626 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: a huge deal in front of a home crowd. So 627 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm not at all saying Australians shouldn't have their favorites 628 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: or US Open. It shouldn't be you know, sort of 629 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: American centric. I get that French whatever, but I do think, like, 630 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: what's amazing about a final like we just had and 631 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: the women's side is, like you said, people are cheering 632 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: for great tennis, and that, to me is really the 633 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: best part imaginable. It's you can't believe that you're watching 634 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: this match and these two players are just competing to 635 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: see who can play better and who's going to come 636 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: up with better shots, and that to me is like 637 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: the actual absolute pinnacle of what our sport can be 638 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: and do. And it doesn't have anything to do with 639 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: the flags that are next to their name or you know, 640 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: you know how loud the crowd is, you know what I. 641 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: Mean speaking of parochial crowds. 642 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: Yes, there was no I mean, the sabal Anca story 643 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: and match and everything was worthy of the story of 644 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: the tournament. But for me, the story of the tournament 645 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: was the absolute crushing of every top men's doubles team 646 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: by a team from Australia that have never played together before. Okay, 647 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: a twenty one year old Australian kid in Rinky Dinky Doo, 648 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: Okay Rinky Hitchikata playing with Jason Koobler, who has gone 649 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: through helen back with injuries, was a really talded young 650 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: player and he's starting to play really good singles again 651 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: and join up and get into the Australia Open, I 652 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: believe on a wild card and win the tournament. 653 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: And they beat everybody, and they thrashed everybody. 654 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: And if you don't like watching Rinky play, you are 655 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: there's something wrong with you, because this kid brings more electricity. 656 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: He was returning the. 657 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: Ball down the line, cross court, wherever you want me 658 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: to hit it, I can hit it. I've never seen 659 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: a kid play so good. And can we just go 660 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: back and if you speaking of you know, go back 661 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: and watch this and that, go back and watch the 662 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: match point of the men's doubles. It was the most crazy, 663 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: ridiculous point I've ever seen to win a Grand Slam. 664 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: Rinky's on his ass, hitting fourhands. Jason's like reflexing balls. 665 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: Back that he should have already won the point on 666 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: a volley on top of the net. 667 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: It was unbelieva. 668 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: And then to lose the match, the guy hits the 669 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 3: worst foehand chipper I've ever seen. 670 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: Long That match, to. 671 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: Me, was unbelievable, and that match point was truly one 672 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: of the greatest match points to win a Grand Slam 673 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: I've ever seen. 674 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: I'm going to see something a little bit unscharitable here 675 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: because I feel like we've given him lots of love, 676 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: like some some deserved feedback. Nick curious pulling out of 677 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: the tournament. Sure he's injured, he played an exhibition anyway, whatever. 678 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: I kept telling everybody that he's the only Bob Popcorn 679 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: draw in tennis and da da da da and being 680 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: a like clout cheerleader for Novak Djokovic is really deeply uncool. 681 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: Seeing another Australian pair win it this year was so 682 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: sweet and satisfying because it just got for me an 683 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: introduction to new I mean, Rinky want to set off 684 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: Nadal a couple of years ago and everyone was sort 685 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: of introduced to him. So I'm not trying to act 686 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: like he's not on some people's minds. But having that big, 687 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: amazing moment in front of a home crowd with Koogler, 688 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: to me, that was one of the best stories in 689 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: the whole tournament. I'm so glad you watched it. I'm 690 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: glad that you are calling it out to me. You 691 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: know dd Degreut winning in wheelchair singles, you know her 692 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: ninth straight slam, Like, there was just so many amazing 693 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: stories like that to me that were so. 694 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: And I want to just also put a little light 695 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: on the. 696 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: Mixed doubles because Stefani. Luisa Stefani from Brazil and her 697 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: Brazilian partner. 698 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: Won the mixed doubles. 699 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: Well done, beating Sonia Mersa in her last ever Grand 700 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: Slam appearance. Sonya Mersa has been a great player for 701 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: a long time and so it was nice to see 702 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: her back in another fight. It was kind of similar 703 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: to what Sam Stosa was doing the year before, making 704 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: you know, the Strain Open, Grand Slam Final. 705 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: And mixed and Wimbledon mixed doubles. 706 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: But Luisa Stefani did not play the women's doubles because 707 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: Katie McNally pulled out at the last minute, so she 708 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: was unable to find a doubles partner. So when you're 709 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: a doubles only specialist, you rely so heavily on the 710 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: money you're making a Grand Slam, and so when her 711 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: partner pulled out at the last second, there's a lot 712 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: of drama going on on that day and we actually 713 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: Sam Stows and I ran into Luisa Stefani when it happened. 714 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: She was really sad, I mean really sad, and felt 715 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 3: so sorry for her. 716 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: To go to win the mixed doubles was such a 717 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: great story. There's little things like that that people don't 718 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: know about. So to win her first Grand Slam title, 719 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: she's such a nice kid. 720 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 3: She had ACLS surgery a year and a half ago, 721 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: or maybe going at the US Open when she tore 722 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: it in the women's doubles and I think the quarters 723 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: of the women's doubles, and then was out an entire 724 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: year and came back last year, and there's won a 725 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: couple of tournaments. She's a great kid, great doubles partner 726 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: play out. So for her to win the mixed doubles, 727 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: well done to her. 728 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: And of course Krajikova and Shinyakova, I mean, come. 729 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: On, so dominant those check women are not who I'd 730 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: want to see in a dra shout out. I should 731 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: say it was very fun to see Shuko Ayama and 732 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: Ana Shubahara in the final against them, But I mean, 733 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: when you get to the finals of the women's doubles 734 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: slam match, you do not want to see those guys 735 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: across that review because if there's little check flags her name, 736 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: you don't have much of a chance. 737 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I know a little bit about playing 738 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 3: with you know, just predominant partnership you just they're so 739 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: in tune with one another. The way they play. They're 740 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: very strategic. They played the same point over and over 741 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: and no one's worked out how to break that code. 742 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: And they remind me a little bit of back in 743 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: the day of Pablo Soirez and Virginia Runna Pasqual who 744 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: were the first real doubles team that combined from the 745 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: back of the court. I remember Lisa Raymond and I 746 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: played them for the first time and we're like, oh, wait, 747 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: they played back. They got no chance, like we to 748 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: kill them, you know, And then we realized, oh no, they. 749 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: They're actually really good from the back of the court. 750 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: They use the lob, they do all these sorts of things, 751 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 3: and of course they dominated and they won many, many 752 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 3: many Grand Slams during my time, and they were the. 753 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: First to really do it. 754 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: And these guys play very similarly to them, but in 755 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: a little bit of a different way. But yeah, kudos 756 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 3: to them. This is just incredible run there. They're going 757 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 3: on the last few years and doubles, and they've been 758 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 3: playing doubles together since they're about thirteen. 759 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: So for them, they're like in the same brain. I mean, yeah, 760 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: make sense, Like they have such a wonderful Yeah. So wait, 761 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: we forgot to ask, and then I'll let you go 762 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: because I you got a flight to catch back to 763 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: America here in another little bit of time, and I've 764 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: got to go put somebody to bed. Who won the 765 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: old fots, who won the exhibitionion doubles? 766 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: Count who wins and loses? Caitlin, We just count who 767 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: didn't injure themselves? The most I know, they give a trophy. 768 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 3: They gave one to Danielle. I had to cover at 769 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 3: Agno Suga rod Ruanska. But what people need to do 770 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: understand is that we play on a we play on 771 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 3: a time line. So for example, they say you've got 772 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: to be off the court by x, so you know 773 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 3: who has a winning at that time, you kind of 774 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: throw a couple of games to make sure we're off 775 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: the court. 776 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: Did you get it? No? 777 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: My shoulders stuffed still. But I had a good time. 778 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 3: I got to play mixed doubles with the Pooh with 779 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: Filipoosis against one of my you know, I loved Marcus 780 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: Bagdatas and so to play against him and you know, 781 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: play again. Being back on the court with my old 782 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 3: double partner car of Black is just I don't know. 783 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: We just when we've let the competitive. 784 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 3: Spirit and the you know what, we all went through 785 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 3: playing together and playing against each other and we just 786 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 3: love seeing each other. So it was just a great 787 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: couple of weeks for all of us to hang out 788 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 3: and play some tennis together. So anyway, listen, it was 789 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 3: an amazing Austrain Open. It was so great to have 790 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 3: all the crowds back. It's the most people that have 791 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: come into the Strain Open ever in history and it 792 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: is the most attended, the most attended Grand Slam in 793 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 3: the world, okay ahead of all of the others, which 794 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: I know you find incredible, But Tennis Australia have done 795 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: so many amazing things. You would love it down here, Caitlin. 796 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: You should bring Peter down. They have this thing called 797 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: the Kids Ballpark where you have you know, they go, 798 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 3: They have water slides, they have like, you know, the 799 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 3: climbing trees. 800 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna say, if there's anything you could call a 801 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: splash zone, you've got them solved. And splash zone is 802 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: all I need to hear. That kid loves. 803 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: Splash zone climbing zones. 804 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 3: Like it's just like a fun park for kids. So 805 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 3: you can bring your kids. They can watch a bit 806 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 3: of tennis, then they can go and have a bit 807 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 3: of you know, you can go to a bar at 808 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 3: beach that they've set up. I mean, it's just the 809 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: Tennis Australia people and the Australian Open in and of 810 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 3: itself have done an amazing job to make this not 811 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 3: just a tennis event but an actual carnival of fun. 812 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: Well, I do want to tell you you did a 813 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: really phenomenal job. Your comentary was exquisite. Hearing you, particularly 814 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: in the women's final was a treat and they were appreciated. 815 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: And you're a missed here. So get back on a 816 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: plane and get back here so we can raise a glass. 817 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: Oh well, got to get back to my show, The 818 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 3: Power Out, which you hosted incredibly well for a week 819 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: and I appreciated that I was getting up at five point. 820 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: Fifteen in the morning to host it from here the 821 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 2: second week. 822 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 3: But I loved every bit of it because nobody loves 823 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 3: tennis like you and me, Ma Caitlin. So sure, everybody, thanks 824 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: for tuning into us. I hope you all aren't going 825 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 3: to be too sad. We've got about a few more 826 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 3: months to get to the French Open, which is Caitlin's favorite. 827 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 3: And we will be back on the Red clay. But 828 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 3: we will be back, of course, in the next few. 829 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: Weeks to tell you more stuff. Maybe I'll get a 830 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: couple of interviews. No thanks for joining, so everybody 831 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: All right, Bye bye,