1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal holl that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Edith Steak, is that whoo whoo? And then and tie 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Den Rubstin is ball season? My friend, bull season is here. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: It's great. 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: What a time, What a time to be alive with you, Ty, 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: What a. 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Time to be alive with you, my friend. Welcome one, 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Welcome all, What a time to be alive with you 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: for baller hood. Sure, great to have you back with us. 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading, for sporting what Dan and I do. 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Don't forget to hit follow or subscribe if you're listening 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: to this episode. On today's show, we are doing a 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: big old batch of Bowl previews. Dan. We split them 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: up into two batches of seventeen. We're gonna preview thirty 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: four games over the next week or so. So this 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: is part one. Am. On Tuesday, you're going to hear 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: our playoff preview for those four big games. We're gonna 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: give it it's due, talk about it on its own show. 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: And then on Thursday we're going to do the next 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: batch of Bowls Okay, we've got a part one a 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: part two. I resurrected an old sound that I'll save 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: for a little bit from now. We are going to 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: go through interesting things in each of these games, give 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: you enough information to feel dangerous. That type of thing 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: we put a lot into, I think trying to harvest 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: the interesting nuggets. If you will, ooh, nugget harvesters. I 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: like that, Yes, absolutely so, we're going to do that 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: in just a little bit. We also have some news 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: that we did not have a chance to discuss on 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: any of our previous episodes. We will do that today 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: as well. Don't forget if you are listening to this 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: play bowlbingo dot com. It is now up. It is running. 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: All you got to do is go there and fill 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: in your email address. You may go to that page 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: and find that you can start making selections. Oh. I 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: will talk through what that means here as we start 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: previewing games. Just oh that this is going to be 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: almost a working session between you and I. That's true. 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: This episode, we're going to figure out build up that bank. Yeah, 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna figure out what our answer bank looks like. 44 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: That's cool with you couldn't be happier to do it. 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: We should start though, with the news of kind of weird. 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: We've got a little bit of breaking news. Happened a 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: few days ago. Now Bill Belichick gonna be the next 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: coach at North Carolina. Great, can't miss next item. 49 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how you actually want to do 50 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: this because we have coaching movement big, medium, small, we 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: have portal movement. Like I just saw people think Billy 52 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: Edwards might be the bridge quarterback to Bryce Underwood at Michigan. 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: Like there's just Jackson Arnold's visiting some SEC schools. Like 54 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: how do we actually want to go about are we 55 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: just going to do like save portal thoughts for We'll 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: grab Max Olsen in two three weeks when more dust 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: has settled, Like how intense do we want to have 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: this news segment? 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: Let's start with the coaching moves, because that's all always 60 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: moves the needle, and we do have some major breaking news. 61 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: I guess it's not breaking at this point. It sort 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: of broke the news from being honest. We could talk 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: about those and then, since I know we're both pretty 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: interested in the portal stuff, if there are any interesting names, rumors, 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: what have you that you have seen. If we want 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: to talk about those, we can do that sure, before 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: we get into the bulls. The big one, though, is 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick, after I guess a brief period 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: of foot seas with North Carolina, has decided that not 70 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: only does he want to coach them, but they want 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: him to coach in Chapel Hill as well. It was 72 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: a very kind of backwards news cycle, I think with 73 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: respect to Bill Belichick. Usually we're used to hearing about 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: a school is targeting, the school is fishing to try 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: and get the best targets. In this instance, the news 76 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: that actually broke first was that Bill Belichick had agreed 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: he had agreed to coach at North Carolina and we 78 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: were waiting to hear if they would accept his terms, 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: which is a new one for me. We've been doing 80 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: this since eight In fact they did this, of course 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: set off an incredible shockwave around all of sports, not 82 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: just college but the NFL. He had tried last season 83 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: to try to get an NFL job, didn't work. He 84 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: is now going to be in the college ranks for 85 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: some period of time. Maybe we can discuss that. He's 86 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: sort of notably mentioned on the Pat McAfee show. What 87 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: his vision is for a college program, it amounts to 88 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: an NFL pipeline. He wasn't talking a whole lot about 89 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: championships in the interview that I saw, was talking a 90 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: lot about how he wants to structure this after a 91 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: pro program. He wants it to be an NFL pipeline. 92 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: Hints light notes of what Herm Edwards said back in 93 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: the day before the Arizona State thing. I'm not equating 94 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: the two, but it's not that as well. I know, 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: just because you and I have talked about this that 96 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: we sort of differ on this hire and whether or 97 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: not it's a good thing, but talked about it at 98 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: length on our bonus episode that's out on Patreon averbowlers 99 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: dot com. Right now, can you summarize that for the 100 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: for bowler hood here. 101 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: I have a lot of doubts and even after we 102 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: finished recording that Patreon episode where we talked about rich 103 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: Rod and Bill Belichick accepting head coaching jobs at a 104 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: not surprising places, I guess in terms of rich Rod 105 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: and Bill Belichick's I think Dad played and went to 106 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: North Carolina, so there was some connective tissue there. But 107 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: I saw that the buyout drops to a million dollars 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: after June something, twenty twenty five. Right, Yes, it drops 109 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: from ten million to one million dollars. And so it 110 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: could be looked at as a one year bridge to 111 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: his son. It could be looked at as like, hey, 112 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: let me give myself the option, but I'm planning on 113 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: being here for as long as they'll have me type thing. 114 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: It seems that the NFL, in some front office circles, 115 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: have soured on the idea of Bill Belichick at seventy one, 116 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: seventy two years old moving forward as their head coach. 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: He interviewed with I think the Falcons and they went 118 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: with Raheem Morris. And so maybe he's grown sour on 119 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: where the NFL is. Perhaps they've grown it's a mutual 120 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: souring tie. Yeah, but this opportunity came up. He had interest. 121 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: He has a vision, which you mentioned. Apparently the four 122 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: hundred page Bible manifesto thing sounds like it's not true 123 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: according to Bill Belichick. 124 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: That makes me sad. I want that to be true. 125 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: I know, love, a good love, a good manifesto and 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: not a problematic manifesto alas always. Yeah, so my thought 127 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: is that it is going to be extraordinarily challenging for 128 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: an outsider, no matter his legendary status in the NFL, 129 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: to come in and shift from being a coach to 130 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: a person who has to oversee students, right to oversee 131 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: nineteen year olds, who has to golf with donors, who 132 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: has to deal with kids floating their names into the 133 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: portal because they're unhappy with playing time. And you know, 134 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: perhaps things are going to change in the next couple 135 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: of years in terms of how this sport is administered 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: and how rosters are administered, and revenue sharing obviously becomes 137 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: a thing, and roster size becomes a thing. But at 138 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: their core, you can say, you're gonna run it like 139 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: an NFL organization, You're gonna structure, You're going to bring 140 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: in Mike Lombardi from now Vsen Yeah, so that's where 141 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: he was to run your college program front office. But 142 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: at their court, these are teachers. These are teachers teaching 143 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: dbs how to roll into coverage, teaching linebackers how to 144 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: diagnose the outside zone. Whereas in the NFL you are 145 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: coaching more than your teaching. You are saying, this is 146 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: what our game plan is, this is what they're doing, 147 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: and it's a different job, it's a different gig, and 148 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: at seventy two, do you have the patients to not 149 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: necessarily learn on the job, As a weird way of 150 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: putting it, for somebody who's had as much success as 151 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: he's had, but he's in a different stage of his 152 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: coaching life and to sort of build up the patience 153 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: muscle that's not patients TSCEE that you know having patients 154 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: with you know, a transfer coming in from Tulane, a 155 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: transfer coming in from Grambling, a transfer coming in from 156 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: cal at the same time, recruiting at the same time 157 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: figuring out your plan for the twenty twenty seven class, 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty eight class. He might be shielding himself 159 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: from a lot of those granular decisions and offloading it 160 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: to front office types or assistants or his son whatever. 161 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: But it's very difficult to see when ideally, any program 162 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: hiring new coach is saying we're bringing in this person 163 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: with a vision and energy and that if all works out, 164 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: we are five six years down the road of them 165 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: building this program into something special, and maybe we lose 166 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,239 Speaker 2: them if we're a program the size of North Carolina, 167 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: or maybe we sign them to a lifetime deal, or 168 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: maybe it goes up in years three and four, then 169 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: down in five and six with no end insight to that, 170 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: and we move on. But it's hard to see any 171 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: of that fitting in with Bill bella check that like, 172 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: maybe he's there for a year to get things right, 173 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: two years to get things right, he's there as his 174 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: retirement for seven years until he's again. My math is 175 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: not my strong so it's seventy nine. It's just it's 176 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: hard to see the exact path to success for me, 177 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: inasmuch as you can see why it could work, But 178 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: I also don't see the little the boxes being checked 179 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: everywhere with somebody with this little experience on this level. 180 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: If any I am all in on this move, I 181 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: know you are. I am all in. I think it's 182 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: a splash hire I think there is also a high 183 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: probability of failure, but I don't think that should stop 184 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: anybody from trying. It shouldn't have stopped North Carolina from trying. Now, 185 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: the one caveat I have is they are obviously making 186 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: some concessions here. One thing that was not refuted is 187 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: that Steve Belichick is basically the coach at waiting. Okay, 188 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: this could prove to be a very bad deal for 189 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: that university. But as I said to you when we 190 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: did our bonus episode yesterday, as part of this, as 191 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: part of them agreeing to his terms, they are upping 192 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: the spend significantly on the football side. And though that 193 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: can go away at some point in the future under 194 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: a different coach, I just feel like in the big 195 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: money era of college football, where everybody's trying to get 196 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more money and get a little bit 197 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: better and a little bit more notoriety, and now with 198 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: the rise of like revenue sharing and like you have 199 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: to put money into this machine to make it truly 200 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: profitable for you, I don't see them easily going back 201 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: on that commitment at some point in the future. Not 202 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: to say they can't, and it certainly has happened elsewhere, 203 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: But once you get a university like North Carolina to 204 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: commit full bore to going in on football the way 205 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: they are with Bill Belichick, at a minimum, I think 206 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: that outlives the Belichick era, and I don't think that's 207 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: a bad thing just from a football standpoint. There's a 208 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: whole ethical conversation around how much you should be spending 209 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: on football. I'm not going there, but in terms of 210 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: football and providing the resources, presumably they have made that 211 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: commitment to do just that here. Okay, so he doesn't 212 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: really have many excuses. He has presumably everything he needs 213 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: in order to make this work. The second thing I 214 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: would add, and this is kind of the I guess 215 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: sticking point for me. I don't know how this vision 216 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: and this quote unquote NFL pipeline he wants to set 217 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: up compares to other such programs around the country. How 218 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: does it compare to Georgia or Ohio State or Texas? 219 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: There's some of these other what amount of football factories Alabama? Right, 220 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's not the only one with this idea. There 221 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: are other schools around the country who have done a 222 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: pretty good job of it. How unique is this going 223 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: to be? Somebody could do the reporting on that. I 224 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: don't know. And furthermore, how long does it take to 225 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: spin that up? You know, like he's got the one 226 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: year buyout. I think you said twenty twenty five. I 227 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: think what you mean is twenty twenty six, right, just 228 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: one see the twenty twenty five season. After that, I 229 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: saw twenty twenty five, Like, okay, okay, well that would 230 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: be as I saw wrong, that would be about either way. 231 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: Either way it regardless of a twenty twenty five or 232 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. The point holds that there's an out 233 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: for him if he decides he wants to go back 234 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: to the NFL and try to win that games record. Okay, 235 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's going to be able 236 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: to spin it up that quickly. You're talking about a 237 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: lot of new people coming in with different ideas, turning 238 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: this program upside down into something it's never been before. 239 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: My hunch is that you can't just snap your fingers 240 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: and make that so okay. So that's what I am 241 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: watching first and foremost. But I think aside of all 242 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: of that, there is real marketing, real recruiting value if 243 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: you are putting the greatest NFL coach of all time 244 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: in charge of your program. Because which kid coming out 245 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: of high school, which quarterback doesn't want to be Tom 246 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: Brady right now? As somebody pointed out to us online, 247 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: and I think it's a very valid point. This stint 248 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: for Belichick may be the best way to measure up 249 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: whether it was him or whether it was Brady responsible 250 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: for all that success in New England. I think that's 251 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: a great point that I haven't heard mentioned a whole 252 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: lot of places. 253 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's a commonly held take. 254 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: Oh, no, it is. Yeah, I don't even know if 255 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: it's a take. Okay, Brady won when he went elsewhere, 256 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: But I'm curious to see how much pull that has 257 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: with the recruits the youth of America in the Year 258 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: of Our Lord twenty twenty four and beyond, because it 259 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: seems to me like that would be a pretty effective 260 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: marketing pitch if he's able to get talent in there. 261 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: I have no doubts that he'll be able to coach, 262 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: he'll be able to win games, because I think he 263 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, and I think we'll surround himself 264 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: with people who know what they're doing. For me, it's 265 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: more a question of how long is it going to 266 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: take to boot up this operation, and will it take 267 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: so long that it's going to be the kid running 268 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: it and not Bill. 269 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: And maybe maybe Bill transitions to like an advisor, consultant 270 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: something like that, and so he's not gone after two 271 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: three years or whatever. Right. 272 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: The part that skees me out a little bit is 273 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: that this is a Steve Belichick Trojan horse of course, 274 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: just to sneak the kid in through the bat I say, 275 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: the kid right, just to sneak his son in through 276 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: the back door to get him a coaching gig. And 277 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's just cool with that. It's not generally 278 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the best way to get your job, whether in coaching 279 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: or elsewhere. That part, to me is a little bit weird. 280 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: But I think just on the surface, putting a guy 281 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: with such name brand authority in the football world in 282 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: charge of your program, I kind of think that's a 283 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: good idea. We saw he's not Dion. I know he's 284 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: not Deon. I don't want to equate the two, but 285 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: there's at least enough similarity there to prove that this 286 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: can be successful on some level. 287 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: Did you see clips of Tom Brady and Gronk and 288 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: Julian Edelman laughing at the aspect of Bill Belichick. 289 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: They all said unequivocally, no, can you see him coaching 290 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: in college? No, no, no. 291 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: The players who spent the most time around him are like, 292 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: not a fit for that sport. 293 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: And Brady had a great quote too, you know, can 294 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: you see him in someone's living room saying, well, we 295 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: don't really want you, but I guess you could come 296 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: and if you're good enough, we'll play. It's not amazing. 297 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: It's not an amazing, no way, in from the players 298 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: who spent so much time around him. And here's the 299 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: other thing you talk about, and I think you're right 300 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: about this. You talk about the ability as a recruiter 301 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: to say, you know, look what I've done in this 302 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: sport and you can come play for me and learn 303 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: under me and my staff. First of all, the staff 304 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: has not been an incredible performing staff throughout the years. 305 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: It's you know, largely been an eye for specific talent, 306 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: obviously Tom Brady being the quarterback that he was. I 307 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: don't care who you are if you're hiring a coach 308 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: that's seventy two. And let me be clear, I love 309 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: early generations. Okay, let's be absolutely clear. This is not 310 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: an agist comment or it's not agist intent. But if 311 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: anybody hires a coach in their early seventies, mid seventies, 312 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of years into the tenure, that's 313 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: the easiest way to recruit against a school. Yeah, how 314 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: long is this guy going to be coaching? 315 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: Right? 316 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: How long is this guy going to be run? You're 317 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: committing to him. Now it's a different world because everybody 318 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: is very quick to enter the transfer portal. And that's fine, 319 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: But I think one of the big selling points of 320 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: a lot of these places is security of like Dan 321 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: Lanning putting out the video, how long Kirby's been there, 322 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: how long Dabo's been at Clemson, how long James Franklin 323 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: and now Ryan Day have been at their respective places. 324 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: And Ryan Day hasn't been around too long. But in 325 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: the world of you know where college football is now, 326 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: he's an old, tenured coach. So to say to hire 327 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: somebody at that age and to fire mac Brown for 328 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: being that age not the reason why if you were 329 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: winning at that age, but to say, like, there was 330 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: uncertainty about mac Brown's future in retirement at seventy three, 331 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: and now you hire a seventy two year old, and like, 332 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: where's it gonna be in two years? Right when he's 333 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: seventy four, which is not particularly young for being a 334 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: major college football. 335 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: Code it is. It is a very big swing from 336 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: unc reportedly a very big commitment that the board had 337 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: to agree to. We will see if it works. I 338 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: remain optimistic. I'm also the same guy who is a 339 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: little bit more optimistic about the Dion project when we 340 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: talked about it back back in the summertime, just as 341 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: like a proof of concept, like if this works, If 342 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: this works, and it did work this year, I don't 343 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: know what about it's gonna happen next year, but well 344 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: that's time. 345 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: We don't know what's gonna happen next year with anybody, but. 346 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Now it's happened next year. But if it works, it's 347 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: It's an interesting way to go about roster construction. And 348 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: I think a guy like a Kurtzignetti when a step 349 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: further with it. They're eleven to one in the playoffs. 350 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: It is a brand new team. It is Indiana in 351 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: logo only. As you have said before, Yes, you can 352 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: boot things up much quicker in this day and age. 353 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: And so let's see what he can do. Kurt Signetty 354 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: brought players with He brought players with the we're not 355 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: bringing like Julian Edelman. 356 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: Dan Sanders brought a likely top ten draft quarterback at 357 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: and heismansability situation at corner and receiver. Bill Belichick can't 358 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: bring Tom Brady, you can't. 359 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: We need to see if he can trade on that 360 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: reputation again just as he did here to strong arm 361 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: North Carolina into upping its commitment to paying him ten 362 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: million dollars. Can can that reputation sway some recruits, sway 363 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: some transfers. They don't have a whole lot of time 364 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: to get this thing up and running. The transfer portals 365 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: open right now, right, and there are guys, so I'm 366 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: sure will be interested in hearing more about what North 367 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: Carolina's got planned playing for Bill Belichick. They're going to 368 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: need to rely on some transfers in order to do that, 369 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: so we'll see what they can do. I don't know 370 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: why don't we talk about very quickly some of the 371 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: other ones here Place, Place place, because we didn't have 372 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: a whole lot of an opportunity to talk about the 373 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: rich Rod hire which dropped at the same time as 374 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: the Belichick hire, that Scott Frost hire which happened before 375 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: both of them, and the Dan Mullen hire. So Rich 376 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: Rod going back to West Virginia, Scott Frost going back 377 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: to UCF two retreads in that sense, and Dan Mullen 378 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: getting back in the college game taking over for Barrio 379 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: to me at UNLV. 380 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: Just the erasure of Casey Keeler going to Temple, by 381 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: the way. 382 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: I brought that up. Actually, as we get into our 383 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: bowles here, because Sam Houston is one of the games 384 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about. Totally good. Okay, what are 385 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: your opinions. I had heard that the rich Rod hire 386 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: was mostly to energize boosters, and I don't not nothing, 387 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: not nothing. I don't necessarily think that's the worst idea. 388 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: I also think to the point that you have been 389 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: making about Belichick and like others that have been rumored, 390 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's been a successful college 391 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: coach is is a good thing. Rich Rod's never really 392 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: been out of the game. He didn't leave on great 393 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: terms with West Virginia, so that's kind of its own 394 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: deal altogether. Nor Michigan or Arizona. Yeah, yeah, there's the 395 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: there's that whole side of it that he's gonna need 396 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: to find a way to heal up. But I don't 397 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: mind the higher I probably would have preferred sort of 398 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: a newer name in that neck of the woods, but 399 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: at least it's somebody that if the boosters can get 400 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: comfortable with him, and if he's able to assemble twent like, 401 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: it's not going to be the Pat White era. Again, 402 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: college football is not going to be a Big East era. No. 403 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: College football's changed a great deal since he was there 404 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: the last time, and generally I'm kind of leary on retreads. 405 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: So that being what it is, if it will energize 406 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: the base, that's okay. I like the mull and higher 407 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: I like Dan Mullen getting back in on it. I 408 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: think with the way that college football is structured, and 409 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: you've probably heard me say a thousand times, but there's 410 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: real value in being a genuinely good G five team, 411 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: especially in this day and age, and especially in a 412 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: year like we just saw, Like there were conversations you 413 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: and I had week eleven where it was unclear it 414 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: was unclear that there would just be one G five team. 415 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: We were talking two lane maybe could find a way 416 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: to sneak in and knock somebody else out. I mean 417 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: that these are real things that are possibilities, I think 418 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: in this day and age, especially in a year like 419 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: this where there was so much or more parody that 420 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: we're accustomed to. So Dan Mullen, I think he's got 421 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: an interesting quarterback provided there isn't a transfer who could 422 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: run the Mullen system in Hodgemen League Williams. Oh, my god, 423 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: huge winner. Yeah, I like that. I think codde leagu 424 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: Williams is a huge winner in all this. He should 425 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: stay put. The Scott Frost hire, I have no idea 426 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: what to expect there. It went so poorly at Nebraska 427 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: that I'm inclined to say that I don't like this 428 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: hire at UCF, even if he's a familiar name there 429 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: who won the quote unquote and it's been out of 430 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: the sport a couple of years. Yeah, yeah, reputation not 431 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: great behind this scenes. Yeah, no, So I think generally 432 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: speaking that's for amount of those three. 433 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: The Dan Mullen hire is super interesting now. He also 434 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: was somebody who talked about getting you know, financial commitments 435 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: behind the scenes given you know where the sport is 436 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: right now, which is very reasonable and obviously, given where 437 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: UNLV was with the Matt s Luca situation, wanted clarity 438 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: on how NIL would be run and get everybody on 439 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: the same page there. UNLV is also in a unique position, 440 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: not unlike where UCF Houston Cincinnati BYU, where as this 441 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: sport consolidates and being in a place like Las Vegas, 442 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: yep U and LV turned down the PAC twelve whatever, 443 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: the fake Pac twelve, that's reconstituting itself, right, sure call it, 444 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: call it names mean something, but I guess just call 445 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: it whatever you want. They're really well positioned geographically in 446 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: Vega as a growing major sports town with you know, 447 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: the Raiders and the Nights all in a cool stadium, right, 448 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: they play in a cool stadium that you know was 449 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: talked about as hosting more major college games. They're like, 450 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: it wouldn't surprise me that Dan Mullen also had a 451 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: conversation with UNLV Brass that centered around like, you know, 452 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: we're having like these early conversations, like maybe the Big 453 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: twelve will come around in a couple of years, three 454 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: or four years, something like that as the sport you know, 455 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: consolidates even more. I U and l VISA can be 456 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: a pretty good job, as Barry Odom showed on the 457 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: verge of winning a pretty significantly talented conference in the 458 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 2: Mountain West. So like, I think it's good. The only 459 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: thing with Dan Mullen is he's always peeking around for 460 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: the next job. 461 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: Peeking around and recruiting was a big time issue towards 462 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: the end of his stay at Florida, and you know, 463 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: being a G five school. That's just a challenge I 464 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: think they all have to deal with. 465 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: But he he's in a nice position where at UNLV 466 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: you can look around the West Coast schools and if 467 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: they win a little bit, the Dan Mullen reputation is 468 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: such where you're like, yeah, we'll take this UCLA quarterback, 469 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: We'll take this Oregon backup quarterback, We'll take this Washington 470 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: backup quarterback. Or like, UNLV is an attractive enough place 471 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: geographically and with what they've done recently on the field 472 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: that you're just like, oh, that's in a good enough 473 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: place to pick off a bunch of transfers, maybe buy 474 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: low types and run a largely successfully proven offensive system, 475 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 2: and they'll have a fun identity in a conference that 476 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: is gettable. 477 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: Now, he could be there for two. 478 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: Years, like Barry otom and then just take you know, 479 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: an Arkansas or something like that. 480 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: Well we'll see. I think he's got an interesting pool 481 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: of talent to work with. I don't hate the hire. Okay, 482 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: any interesting transfers that you have seen, anyone's to jump 483 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: off the page to you. 484 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: Darien Mensa to Duke, I think is fascinating. I don't 485 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: know the exact Thomas Castellanos. Is that official Florida State 486 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: Florida State. Yeah, I mean the quarterback portal is probably 487 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: the most interesting, just because of what an immediate impact 488 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: can look like. Fernando Mendoza is going to be interesting. 489 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: I think I saw his name pop up with like 490 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: schools like Georgia. 491 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: I saw Georgia. 492 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so bigger type programs look at Fernando Mendoza as 493 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: a not a by low, but a quarterback who perhaps 494 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: wasn't surrounded with the most talent at cal and that 495 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: you could you could project interesting things for him. There's 496 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: like a Jackson Arnold story with you know, Mississippi State 497 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: and Jeff Levy or Auburn. There's a lot of Auburn's 498 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: being very active, Syracuse is being very active. So yeah, 499 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: quarterback is the most interesting. I mentioned the Billy Edwards 500 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: thing with Michigan as they look to find a bridge 501 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: quarterback between Davis Warren and Bryce Underwood potentially by the 502 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: end of next year. Like DJ Lagway came in in 503 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: the middle, So Billy Edwards I think would be another 504 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: not by low, but by medium. Because the line at 505 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: Maryland was pretty bad, the running game was pretty bad, 506 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: and so you the best of Billy Edwards was interesting 507 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: with good receivers. Obviously, ty Felton went over a thousand yards. 508 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 2: So who else, I say, Zach Pyron to Minnesota, Zack 509 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: Pirate of Minnesota. He's going to be presumably a backup. 510 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: I'll talk about that when we right built some depth. 511 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: Go through our our. 512 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 1: Our games here and get the Georgia Tech Connor Wigman 513 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: going to Houston. 514 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: I think that's that's an interesting fit they needed. They 515 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: needed all the help they can get on offense, fresh start, 516 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: but in the same obviously specific geographic area. 517 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: YEP. I guess a little bit of clarity on who's 518 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: going to be playing quarterback for Utah this year? We 519 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: see that, is it? Devin Dampier decided New Mexico from 520 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: New Mexico up to Utah after a bunch of the 521 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: Utah guys transferred out. 522 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: Wisconsin's down to everybody on TVD Brandon Locke and. 523 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: I think it's is Cole LaRue would be the third 524 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: sent the name that I'm very interested in amid all 525 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: of this, and it should not is any great surprise. 526 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: He just entered the portal, I guess on Wednesday night, 527 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: HM Michael Van Buren in the portal from Misssippi CBB. Yeah, 528 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: they decided that they were going to take a transfer 529 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: and as such it's going to be MVB looking elsewhere. 530 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of promise. I'm interested 531 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: to see where he ends up. He could play a 532 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: really big role in some interesting systems. 533 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: Saw Chip lindsay to Michigan it's a new offense, new coordinator. 534 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 535 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was decent at North Carolina, but not incredible. 536 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: I think they peaked it around in the twenties in 537 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: terms of points per drive. Yeah. Yeah, the coordinator movement 538 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: will be fascinating. Quarterback movement will be fascinating. I saw 539 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: Nebraska got the big edge rusher from Miszoo. Yeah, he's 540 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: the five star. We shall see. Receiver is going to 541 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 2: be usually the deepest because everybody wants more targets. Everybody 542 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: wants a little bit more thrown their way. So we'll 543 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: see on that front. But yeah, lot of active teams 544 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: in the SEC right now, and it's going to be 545 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: super fascinating to see with playoff teams post playoff losses 546 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: or with right that's portal entries and. 547 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: Rumors about too. Yeah, Queen yours rumors running am up 548 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: that Quinn viewers maybe has an offer on the table. 549 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: It was from quote unquote some big ten team to 550 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: transfer out and stay another year. Can take guesses as 551 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: to who that is if you look at the standings. 552 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: I mean, if he's not going to the NFL, I 553 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna sit Arch three years. So we'ds 554 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: either Arch starting or leaving. Yeah, Texas, Yeah. 555 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: We'll see. I don't know. I don't think it would 556 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: be a bad move for him to come back. I 557 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: also don't think he will. 558 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: Miami's looking for a quarterback, Indiana's looking for a quarterback. 559 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: Colorado's looking for a quarterback. Presumably a lot of big teams, 560 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: a lot of. 561 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: A and M. Maybe not they got Jacob Zeno. 562 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: Baby, I think A and M will be looking for 563 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: a quarterback still. 564 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: Jacobs, you know, Oh my gosh. All right, more to 565 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: come on this front. We will do our best to 566 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: keep you up to speed on all of this action. 567 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: The main thing that we are doing here, though, I 568 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: must say, we're previeum bulls Dan. The bulge with the 569 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Bulls is here. Do you remember the bull Barge series 570 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: we did about four years ago. I was still in Brooklyn. 571 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: So yes, yeah, we did the bull Barge. We broke 572 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: it up into four's. It was a different day and age, 573 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: different world altogether. To me, bull season, though, is like 574 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: the white whale of prognostication. It's obviously always been very 575 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: difficult to predict postseason exhibition games, which is what the 576 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: amount to. But now with all the transfer, portal movement 577 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: and all the other distractions opt outs, I mean, it's 578 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: kind of impossible. So this is a so much a 579 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: prediction show today. Hopefully we're just looking to give you 580 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: some nuggets that will make you care or if you 581 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: are in some sort of bullpool, make you a little 582 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: bit more informed. So my advice on that front, because 583 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: I do this every year. We're not doing the confidence pool, 584 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: but if you are doing one, my advice is load 585 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: up on your points early. That's the East Coast Elliott 586 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: rule that I have spoken into this microphone more times 587 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: than I can remember. Yeah, my heart and fast rule 588 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: is if the team lost its coach or a couple 589 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: key contributors, either to the portal or opt outs, whatever, 590 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: pick the opponent. 591 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: So pick all of the opponents in all of the games, 592 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: because everybody's losing coaches and portal guys. Yeah, except Ohio, 593 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: except for I lost the coach, but no portal guys. 594 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: I'll talk that through. Yeah. And then the final thing, 595 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: And it's the most relevant I think when it comes 596 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: to bull season, trying to figure out what the hell 597 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: is going to happen. Try to pick the team that 598 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: wants it more, whatever that means, whatever that means. This 599 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: team this part of the season is less about the 600 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: team that you think is better, and it's much more 601 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: about the team that just cares more because of all 602 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: those distractions. So, uh, this is not me saying to 603 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: try and like play amateur psychologists or anything like that, 604 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: but I kind of try to play amateur psychologists and 605 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: figure out which team I think gives a damn that. 606 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: We have seen more than a few occasions where a 607 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: team goes into a bowl game and it's just they're 608 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: there for the field trip. It's one, two, three, kik. 609 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: It's not a good showing, right. So that's where I'm 610 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: at with this. 611 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: Do you remember my rule, my one golden rule in 612 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: picking ball games. It's been a year, you've gotten older. 613 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it jotted it down somewhere in my 614 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: notes here and I already forgot it. 615 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: My one central rule pick against the. 616 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 1: Mac, pick against the Mac. That's right, I do have 617 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: that pick against the Mac. 618 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: I guess I said that before because I was just like, 619 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: the Mac is just constantly losing these games. They were 620 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: pretty good last year, but in the Portal era, all 621 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: of these Mac rosters and it's not something I liked, 622 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: but they're being. 623 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: Stripped Bear pick clean man. 624 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: And so if you're asked, like all than Ohio, which 625 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: you mentioned, you have as well, uh oh I lost 626 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: their coach finished the season, super strong won the MAC. 627 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: We'll see what that means in bowl season. 628 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: If you're a big Parker Navarro. 629 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: Parker Nabarro, yes, yeah, yeah, if you're a Parkingabarrow guy 630 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: or gal. 631 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: But big against the Mac, big against the Mac. Okay, yeah, 632 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: timeless words here, We're going to start with the Scooters 633 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: Frisco Bowl. We're going to run all the way through 634 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: on this episode. Let's do it up until the twenty 635 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: seventh of December, which is the Friday game, the Las 636 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: Vegas Bowl. Dan. As we go through here, I will 637 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: tell you when we get to the point where we 638 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: need to start identifying items for our bulbingo answer bank. Yes, okay, 639 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: this is where the collaborative part comes into this episode. 640 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk through just some zags that we 641 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: can include as part of our answer bank. These are 642 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: things that you can pick as you're going to playbowlbeingo 643 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: dot com, signing up for our Patreon for free, and 644 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: getting your name in the hat. These are items that 645 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: you can pick. You get like a choice of six 646 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: things that you think are gonna happen. Okay, yes, things 647 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: that you think are going to happen over the span 648 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: of time that our first week's game runs, and then 649 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: afterwards we do it all over again we started. 650 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: These are not abstract items, no, these are definitive items. 651 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: So definitive items. These are point spreads, These are player props. 652 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: And then these are things like will there be a 653 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: successful fake punt? Right? 654 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: I mean it could be it could be abstract, but 655 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: it has to be definitive, like will there be a 656 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: lightning delay? 657 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: That's a yes or no? That's right? Will there be 658 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: a hell Mary winning play that's right? Yes or no? Right? 659 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: It is not necessarily a fantasy. Things like no, will 660 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: a male and female pop tart consummate their love at 661 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: midfield and produce baby pop tarts on the fly. I 662 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: guess that would be definitive, right. If that either happens 663 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: or doesn't. 664 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: We can have a fun pop tards bowl prop. I 665 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: don't I don't want that one, but okay, suffice it anyway. 666 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: I will let you know when the time has come. Okay, 667 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: let's get a few under our belt first. Here done 668 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: before we get into things. The other thing I must confess, 669 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: and this is only because I did this at about 670 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: five in the morning, going through and looking at these 671 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: seventeen games, I have identified a new fascination, a new 672 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: kink for me with respect to Bowl season. No kink 673 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: shaming here. Okay, Uh, you know how there's like an 674 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: official UNI Watch guy who just grades all of the 675 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: new uniforms across all the sports. 676 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the uni Watch blog is legendary. 677 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: It's an institution. Yeah. I may want I may want, Yeah, 678 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,959 Speaker 1: Paul Lucas, I may want to become the trophy guy. Hmmm. 679 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: I like this. I kind of want to be the 680 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: guy that grades all the trophies? 681 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: Are there some odd balls? 682 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: I have gone through so in exhaustive detail. I spent 683 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: an inordinate amount of time this morning at five point 684 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: thirty I have thoughts on all seventeen of the trophies 685 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: that are in the bowl games that we're discussing today. 686 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 2: Do you know what my you know what nibbles on 687 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: my ear during ball season? Awkward CMO commercials of the sponsor, 688 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: like I'm I'm Stephanie Johansson here on behalf of the 689 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: Idaho Potato Commissions. 690 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: Stuff, the stuff that they throw into you because you're 691 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: a sponsor. Yes, you get like thirty five seconds of airtime. 692 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: Use it however you want that type of thing. As 693 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: proud as we are of the young men competing in 694 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: this bowl game, we're even more proud of the starchy 695 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: goodness that comes out of the state of Idaho each 696 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: and every year, filling our hearts and stomachs. Oh I 697 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: love it all. 698 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: I love that awkward thirty second Like, hey, everybody, we're 699 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: so proud to be involved in the Oh yeah, Scooters 700 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: Frisco Bowl. 701 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: Let's see if we can rip through these in thirty 702 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: five I have forty minutes, all right, seconds continue seconds. Tuesday, 703 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: nine pm, December the seventeenth. They call it the Scooters 704 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: Coffee Frisco Bowl. It is between Memphis at ten and 705 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: two it is West Virginia at six and six, Dan, 706 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: West Virginia fire Neil Brown, their offensive coordinator is going 707 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: to be the interim for the most part. On the 708 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: Memphis side, looks like a full boat. We might have 709 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: an opt out from Mario Anderson, the running back. He 710 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: potentially could opt out, which would obviously be a hit 711 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: to the offense. But I would say in terms of watchability, 712 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: both teams are giving up a ton of big plays 713 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: this season. On paper, this is a matchup that looks 714 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: to me to favor Memphis because they like to throw 715 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: and West Virginia doesn't really like to stop it. So 716 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: I think, Eileen Memphis here. 717 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, I'm leaving Memphis as well West Virginia And 718 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 2: even like West Virginia fans like, you're you're not super 719 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 2: hyped about this game. You're hyped about rich Rod coming back? 720 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Are you you hyped about Scooters coffee? 721 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 2: Though? 722 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with Scooters cough? I had to look 723 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: it up. 724 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: There's apparently some locations near me. Big on the like 725 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: we created coffee out of a cookie. I'm like, what 726 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: can we just get a. 727 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: Cup of cough? No? 728 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: Okay, it doesn't look appetizing to me, but I should 729 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 2: try it before making any sort of concrete statement you. 730 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: Don't like to drink your cookies. 731 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 2: It was just a lot of like, hey, we threw 732 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: a bunch of sprinkles around, like why why are you 733 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: doing this? Just serve really good coffee. That's great by me. 734 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 2: So no, I've never been to a Scooters coffee, but again, 735 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 2: I'll try it before forming my final opinion. Frisco Bowl 736 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 2: in Frisco, Texas. I'm going Memphis. I like Memphis more. 737 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: This is the Swan song I believe with Seth Henigan. 738 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. 739 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: And we'll see on West Virginia and they's still play. 740 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: When West Virginia can run the ball, they become kind 741 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: of fun and interesting. 742 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: I can I tell you something interesting I found about 743 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: West Virginia because I was going through and I was 744 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: doing like the post warnem on some of these teams, 745 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: my preseason notes. I went back and like, I've just 746 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: been comparing where some of these teams finished and checking 747 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: to see how far off I've been. Yeah. One of 748 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: the notes that I mentioned in the preseason about West 749 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: Virginia was how last season their defense, though not horrible, 750 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: was pretty bad on first and second down, and there 751 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: was a seventy percent rate of an opposing team getting 752 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: a first down on first and second down, which means 753 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: that the defense wasn't good enough to get to third 754 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,959 Speaker 1: down like thirty percent of the time, which is pretty bad. Again, 755 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: and now they were able to kind of navigate that 756 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: get Neil Brown, like, you know, a temporary boost. But 757 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: my note was they need to improve upon that. This season, 758 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: West Virginia gave up a first down on first or 759 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: second down seventy point three percent of the time, which 760 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: is comically high and almost identical to last season. It 761 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: did not get better. 762 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 2: This is also the worst blitzing team in America. Yes, 763 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 2: they don't blitz often, but when they do, it goes 764 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: super wrong. 765 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: From West Virginia oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm with you. 766 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: On Memphis, it's a veteran team. Their offense was let 767 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: down by their defense this season. I had hoped that 768 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: it would be different, but it wasn't. Still a very 769 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: very good team, they're ten and two. The trophy situation 770 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: for this game is an abomination. Oh no, what are 771 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: they doing? It's an abomination. There are a handful of 772 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: games here in this crop in this first batch that 773 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: are in effect the Lombardi Trophy with a different shaped pedestal. Okay, 774 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: everybody's seen it. Everybody. If you've ever looked into buying 775 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: a fantasy football trophy for your league, it's the football 776 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: a top some form of a pedestal. It's either gold 777 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: or silver or some cheap knockoff. It's just painted that color, yes, 778 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: and then there's a pedestal underneath it, and in this 779 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: case there's a Scooter's plaque. Try harder. You're making coffee 780 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: out of cookies, you can make a better trophy than this. Well, 781 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: you could just have a golden coffee mug or something 782 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: like that. Full stop, full stop. This is going to 783 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: be a recurring theme. Don't get me going now. I'm 784 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: going to get worked up later. Okay. I'm just saying, Scooters, 785 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: if you're paying all this money for this game, you 786 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: need a better trophy. 787 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 2: I agree, or an outline of the state of Texas, 788 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: something that is specific to this. 789 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: Game, not even that it just okay, moving on anything. Wednesday, 790 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 1: December the eighteenth, five point thirty. It's the Boca Ratone Bowl, 791 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky eight and five. James Madison eight and four, Dan, 792 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: what do you got for me? 793 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: James Madison very fun running team, good defense, Western Kentucky 794 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 2: weird team. Yeah, very weird team this year they are. 795 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: TJ. 796 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: Finley got hurt early on, but the offense still wasn't great. 797 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 2: I think I like James Madison here. I think I 798 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 2: like the upside of what they can do offensive. I mean, look, 799 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: they it was running in defense is what got James 800 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 2: Madison's a good place. Obviously lost a couple games they'd 801 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 2: love back, but first year coach and Bobby Chez, I 802 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: think I like jam You. 803 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: You're burying the lead, which is Western lost its left 804 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 1: tackle to injury a week ago. Okay. Also the following 805 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: players are currently in the portal. Oh yeah, starting quarterback, 806 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver, linebacker, defensive end, nose tackle, defensive tackle, safety, 807 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: and kicker. Also their backup TJ. Fanley, who you mentioned, 808 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: as well as their third stringer. 809 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: A Downtree quarterback. Was it Caden Belcamp Who's Western Kentucky 810 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,959 Speaker 2: starting quarterback or who became their starting quarterback after TJ. 811 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 2: Finley got hurt early on this season? 812 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: Believes I don't think it's Caden bell Camp. It is 813 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: Caden Ville caden Vell Camp. Okay, whatever, I'm getting my 814 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: notes mixed up. You're good. This does not mean they 815 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: are not playing because Portal guys have actually played in 816 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: bowl games before for Tyson hurw. It's just a pretty 817 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: big distraction, I think against a JMU team, as you said, 818 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: running in defense. Right, how's the trophy? Winners of this 819 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 1: game get the Howard Schnellenberger Championship Trophy. That's pretty cool. 820 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: What do you think the design is? It's throw it 821 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: out there. What do you think the design is for 822 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: this cool name for a trophy? Right? Schnellenberger like a 823 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 1: popular name, a historic name in college football. 824 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 2: Wait, you think the sharp dresser, big mustache? 825 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: What do you think the trophy? Just tell me, what 826 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: do you think? It looks like? Gold? 827 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 2: A mustache, a golden mustache. 828 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: It's a golden football on a pedestal with an inscribed 829 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: plaque of Schnellenberger's face. Why not mabel the face the trophy? 830 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: Why do we got to do the gold football thing 831 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: that's already been done. Give me a big old Schellenberger 832 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: face and give that to the winner who is not 833 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: playing for the schnelly face. 834 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: I agree, it's a weird thing to display potentially in 835 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 2: your school's trophy cabinet. 836 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But that's kind of cool to me. Okay, 837 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: both seasons fun, make it fun on the trophy. Don't 838 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: cut corners here, Boca ratone travel Commission. Whatever this is. 839 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: I had good Ramin and Boker tone a long time 840 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 2: like for you. I think it was called ramen Lab 841 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 2: free plug there. 842 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: It was good. If you're going to this game, romen Lab, 843 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: we agree on James Madison. By the way, Yes, Wednesday, 844 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: December eighteenth, nine pm. It is the bowl game with 845 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: the most modifiers. If you were diagramming the name of 846 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: this game. Bowl is the nouned art of sport is 847 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: the prepositional phrase acting as an adjective. La is a 848 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: single adjective modifying Bowl and hosted by Gronk, is the 849 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: participial phrase that also modifies bowl. As they look at you, 850 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: thank you, Dan, I was good at this in a 851 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: high grammar hammer thank you. This is the Art of 852 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: Sport LA Bowl hosted by Gronk formerly the Jimmy Kimmel 853 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: Boll formerly Jimmy Kimble Yeah Cal six and six, UNLV 854 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: ten and three. 855 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 2: I think, man, this is tough because you have a 856 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 2: COUNT team without their starting quarterback, UNLV team without their 857 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 2: starting head coach. 858 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: I jotted down this one is like picking between freezing 859 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,959 Speaker 1: to death and burning alive. I'm gonna go CAL. Why. 860 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 2: I think they still have enough weapons on offense. Defensively, 861 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: they got enough stops. It's not I mean, it's not 862 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 2: a big travel situation for either one of these teams. 863 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 2: I think top to bottom there's a little bit more 864 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 2: talent depending on what happens. 865 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: In the portal. 866 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we could see more UNLV guys now. UNLV 867 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: probably as the single best offensive healthy offensive weapon perhaps 868 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: and Ricky White. 869 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: If he doesn't opt over, if he doesn't if he 870 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: doesn't opt out, if he doesn't opt out, And that 871 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: was my note here. It's mostly a full boat. 872 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 2: I do like the running back room for CAL, though, 873 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna get going. 874 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: Cal is down Fernando Mendoza, who he's mentioned earlier. Chandler 875 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 1: Rogers got hurt in the last game of the year, 876 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: so it could be CJ. Harris in their quarterback, who 877 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: I believe transferred from Ohio. You mentioned that earlier, but 878 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: I don't know yet who's playing and who isn't. They're 879 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: also down there leading receiver in Azaiah Hunter, who I 880 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: think is in the portal. He's in the portal. Yeah, 881 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 1: they're left tackle got hurt. They have some other guys 882 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: who are nicked up and questionable as well. On the 883 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: cal side. If this game were in Week nine, I'd 884 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 1: be fired up to watch it. Yeah, I'd be super 885 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: fired up. With both of these teams kind of at 886 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: full strength. As such, I'm going to UNLV here. I 887 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: just I have too many questions on the calside right now. See. 888 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 2: I feel similarly about pick I picked. I think UCLA 889 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 2: against Boise State last year. Yeah, with all the changes, 890 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna go cal here. I just think 891 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 2: there's enough still enough there on that roster. 892 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: Trophy is a championship belt. Dan Oh, that's right, I 893 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: remember that. Who doesn't like a good strap? Well? 894 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: Is that because of the gronk element? I have no 895 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 2: idea trophy belt? 896 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I think I as far as I can tell, 897 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: they have persisted with this trophy. Now, I don't know how. 898 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: This is a relatively new bowl. Yeah, but they're given 899 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: out straps. It's a little bit of pro wrestling. You 900 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 1: do it for your teammates. You do it for your college. 901 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: You do it to win the Straps, Dog, you do 902 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 1: it to win the Straps. This is in the upper tier, 903 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: upper tier trophies. I totally agree. 904 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing I don't love about it 905 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 2: is it just feels kind of turnovery. 906 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: It does. It's a little bit overused, but it's still 907 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: it's a cool concept. 908 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: It's a cool concept they're trying, and we appreciate swings 909 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 2: here on the solid verbal. If you're going to this game, 910 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 2: let me know, I'll help you out with west side food. 911 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: Let me know. Let me know. December nineteenth, seven pm 912 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 1: to Thursday, the RNL carriers New Orleans Bowl Georgia Southern 913 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: at eight and four. Sam Houston at nine to three. 914 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: Sam Houston, you mentioned earlier lost Casey Heeler, their coach. 915 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: He took the job at Temple. Actually really like that 916 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: higher for Temple, do I. He's got roots here on 917 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 1: the East Coast, particularly in Delaware, not far. I will 918 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: save some time otherwise and just say that most of 919 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: Sam Houston's defense is in the portal. It's unclear if 920 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: they'll play or not predictably, Yeah, but most of them 921 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: are in the portal probably as a result of this 922 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 1: looks like a rock fight to me, Dan, Like, we're 923 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: not talking about a potent Georgia Southern offense either. This 924 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 1: is a team that was mostly led by defense. If 925 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: Sam Houston is down to backups, that will benefit their 926 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: offense for sure. I just don't know here, I don't know. 927 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: I think I saw the point spread was seven in 928 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: favor of Georgia Southern. I would be inclined to go 929 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: points just because this feels very rock fighty to me. Yeah. 930 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 2: Georgia Southern won three of their last four. You remember 931 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 2: they opened the season with that shootout against Boise State. 932 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: They scored forty plus against Boise State, moved the ball 933 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 2: through the air, but gave up a ton obviously, as 934 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: everybody did to Ashton genty. They haven't been a great 935 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 2: Bowl team under Clay Helton, but I think in this 936 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 2: situation they're more advantaged by the continuity. 937 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: So I'm going Georgia Southern. What do you think the 938 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: trumphy is for a game like this? RNL carriers like 939 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: a big trucking about, like a Nation trucking company. 940 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 2: Jazz Instruments, Golden Jazz Instruments or something like that. I'm 941 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 2: gonna go generic Lombardish. 942 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: We've got another silver football top a pedestal dance. Yeah, 943 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: it's a silver football atop a clear octagonal base. Okay, 944 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 1: isn't that great? Yeah, let's get something. 945 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 2: We're in New Orleans, could you not? You're in New Orleans, 946 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 2: one of the world's great cities. 947 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: Great, do like a golden like Louis Armstrong trumpet or something, sure, 948 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: or RNL carriers. You're paying for the bowl again, this 949 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: is my call to my PLEA golden tire. How about 950 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: a big eighteen wheeler man okay, gearshift? Yeah, a big one, 951 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: like a three foot long one that everybody can hold 952 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,879 Speaker 1: up as a team afterwards. Golden mudflap, something like that. 953 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: Something that's steers, something that steers. Get into it. 954 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: Ah, what are we doing here, guys? The gold football? 955 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: Come on, that's tough. You shouldn't even have a bowl 956 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: if this is your trophy. I'm sorry, I don't mean 957 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: the RNL tiers, but. 958 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 2: This is the time to steal year in two what 959 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 2: you are so I'm talking about. But yeah, if it's 960 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 2: New Orleans, they're so have a golden riverboat. Do anything. 961 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be the coolest looking trophy in 962 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: the world. It does need to have some heart behind it, 963 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: some effort behind it, and that is what our next 964 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: bowl game has. The Golden Gumbo. That is what our 965 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: next bowl game has. A right, Okay, good? We are 966 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: now moving to December the twentieth, Dan we are not 967 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: talking about playoff games. There is one playoff game on 968 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: the twentieth. That night, we're going to be doing a 969 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: live stream for Notre Dame Indiana. 970 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: Canoodlewtie dot com. We do not have to buy it. 971 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 2: I're have to You're going to need to buy that. 972 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 2: Did I ever tell you that I worked in the 973 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 2: business affairs office DreamWorks for like seven months. And one 974 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 2: of the things this is true of all TV shows, movies. 975 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 2: Anytime a URL is mentioned that's made up. Like if 976 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 2: it's a movie about a kid who starts a website 977 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 2: called like by Time Eilerstoys dot com or something like. 978 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: That, they have to buy it. 979 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to buy it ahead of the movie 980 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: coming out or else it's a disaster. 981 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: So were you the dude going on GoDaddy dot com? 982 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 2: So I wasn't the one doing it, but I just remember, 983 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 2: like I had to comb through scripts and if there 984 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 2: was any like URL mentioned that I had to to 985 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 2: flag it. 986 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: That's all. This game is on December the twentieth. We've 987 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: got two games on December the twentieth that we're going 988 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: to talk through here. The Bowl Bingo game. This is 989 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:34,720 Speaker 1: when it's officially gonna lock and you can start scoring points. 990 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: So from this point forward in the episode, Dan, yeah, 991 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: I want you to think. I want you to comb 992 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: the depths of your brain, all right, for any kind 993 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: of odd or not odd circumstances, things, situations that we 994 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: can put on the bingo card. 995 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,240 Speaker 2: Okay, from this point forward, this point with the point forward, 996 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 2: daph I wanted to say, I almost said Staff Dena No, 997 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 2: Staff DNA Cureball. This is a trophy with some heart Okay, 998 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: is it a double helix? The Cure Bowl is named 999 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 2: to promote awareness and research of breast cancer. Okay, and 1000 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 2: so yeah, the trophy is like that three D pink ribbon. 1001 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's cool or a hewett. I don't know, but 1002 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 2: it's no. The helix was in reference to the DNA, Yeah, 1003 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 2: double helix of Watson and correct DNA. Yeah. 1004 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: This, I believe this trophy is mainly in the shape 1005 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: of that like it's like a three D version of 1006 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: the pink ribbon that you see during Breast Cancer Awareness 1007 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: Month and what So Cool Trophy. This one is obviously 1008 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: up there near the top of the power ranking given circumstances. 1009 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: Ohio ten and three, Jacksonville State nine and four on 1010 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: paper a good matchup. Also, both coaches are leaving for 1011 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: other jobs. We got rich Rod going back to West Virginia. 1012 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: We talked about Tim Albin going to Charlotte. At the 1013 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 1: time of recording, I have no way of knowing right now, 1014 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: we're recording this on Friday, what the transfer situation is 1015 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 1: going to look like for both of these teams. It 1016 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: looks pretty good on the Ohio side Jacksonville State, there's 1017 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: a chance there's an exodus, so I don't know. I 1018 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: don't know at time of recording. You mentioned it earlier, 1019 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: though I am incline to Ohio. I'm inclined to go 1020 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: Ohio here. I think there's less likelihood that we're going 1021 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: to see like transfer mayhem. It is a mac team though, 1022 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: and that's what gave me cause for pause, our favorite 1023 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: pet charity, right. 1024 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Jacksonville State, that you know, a healthy, full 1025 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 2: roster of Jacksonville State ran the hell out of the 1026 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 2: ball this year. Yeah, defense was okay, but they ran 1027 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 2: the hell out of the ball. Ohio's lost nobody beyond 1028 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 2: once again. Tim Alvin, starting head coach. I'm inclined to 1029 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: say Ohio just because I do want to make an 1030 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 2: exception if the roster is intact and the vibes are 1031 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 2: as strong as they are with their their drubbing in 1032 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 2: the the MAC Championship game. So I'm going Ohio circumstantially here. 1033 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's this is one of the 1034 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 2: more watchable games, just to see if Ohio can can 1035 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 2: build on their their win over Miami. 1036 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm adding Ohio money line as one of our choices 1037 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: on the Bingo card. Okay, Ohio money line just straight up, 1038 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 1: no point spread, just Ohio's got to win. Right now 1039 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: as I'm looking at it, it's Ohio minus one and 1040 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: a half, so they're slightly favored, but points spreads don't 1041 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: mean anything this time of year. I'm going to add 1042 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 1: that to the Bingo card. Okay, that's one of our options. 1043 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 2: So Jacksonville said had two thousand yard rushers, their quarterback 1044 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 2: and their running back. Anything you want to do with 1045 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 2: not necessarily this game, but this first week. That like 1046 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 2: a prop with a rushing attack, a team goes over 1047 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,760 Speaker 2: three hundred yards rushing. 1048 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 1: I like that. I like, let's put that. Let's put 1049 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: that on. So a game goes over three hundred, goes 1050 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: over three hundred yards rushing. That's also a great bet because, 1051 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: as you know, some of these teams are fully depleted 1052 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: and you're going to get some weird results. 1053 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 2: I like a lot of exercise happening. 1054 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I like this one, Dan, I like where your 1055 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: head's at. I'll zoom in, you kind of zoom out 1056 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: and give me that bigger picture. Okay, Okay. Friday, December 1057 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: the twentieth, three point thirty Union Home mortgage gasperiable, Dan 1058 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: guess Brilla. Yeah, Tulane nine and four Florida seven to 1059 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 1: five Florida at time of recording, a thirteen point favorite 1060 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: over Tulane. It's a big number. Tulane's gonna be down. 1061 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: Darien Mensa, who, as you said earlier, committed to Duke. 1062 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: Big get for Duke after Malik Murphy decided he was 1063 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 1: going back in the portal. Tulane's second and third stringers 1064 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 1: also in the portal. Although your guy ty Thompson said 1065 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: he's gonna stick around and play the game. Okay, Tulane, Yeah, 1066 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: he's your guy. He's an Oregon guy. And on the 1067 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: Florida side, not a whole lot of consequence in the portal, 1068 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: like potentially a few opt outs here. But Florida seems 1069 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: like they're in a pretty good spot. Obviously, they had 1070 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: a ton of momentum going into the latter half of 1071 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: its season. Tulane, I believe, lost its last two. I 1072 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know if they're winning by thirteen. That seems like 1073 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: a big number against a pretty decent Tulane team. But 1074 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 1: I also shudder a little bit to go tu lane 1075 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: because of the momentum being a lot on Florida's side, 1076 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna care about this game. It's 1077 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: relatively close. They played in it's in Tampa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. 1078 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 2: I think this is a limb from limb situation for Florida. 1079 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: I think there's a great opportunity to close a year 1080 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 2: that had already ended with very good vibes for Florida 1081 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 2: with a nice Bowl win, not traveling too far, a 1082 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 2: lot of family in the stands. 1083 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: In terms of interest, right, it's just DJ Lagway should 1084 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,280 Speaker 1: put on a show. How much of a show? Should 1085 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 1: we add this to the Bingo card? 1086 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 2: DJ Lagway two fifty over under yardage Because here's the thing. 1087 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 2: If if it's Limb from lim they're gonna pull them. 1088 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 2: They don't want DJ Lagway to get her. 1089 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 1: See, I think we got to go lower than that 1090 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: to twenty five to twenty. Let's go to let's go 1091 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: two o one. No, let's go one ninety nine and 1092 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: a half and a half to get to two. Yeah, 1093 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: just to get to two. Oh man, I just think 1094 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: that's such an easy call. But okay, one ninety nine 1095 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 1: and a half. 1096 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 2: He can do that in the first half if he's 1097 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 2: on and two lanes emptied out. Okay, one nine and 1098 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 2: a half total passing yardage for totally lay. 1099 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I want to add that one to the cards. 1100 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: Anything else that jumps out to you here, it's hard 1101 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 1: on the two lane side because we don't know who's 1102 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: all playing. 1103 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 2: Right Mkai Hughes obviously was quite good. We'll see his situation. 1104 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: Okay, this trophy, friggin' rules. This is maybe one of 1105 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: the best ones all Bowl season. It is a wooden 1106 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,760 Speaker 1: pirate chest that's propped open with the Gasparilla logo inside 1107 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: of it. Gasparilla, of course, is the annual Pirate festival 1108 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: they have down in Tampa with a parade and other 1109 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 1: community events and such. This trophy's freaking awesome. I love 1110 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: this trophy. One of the best all ball season. Well, 1111 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: good job, guys, we love our pirate theme. Let's go 1112 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: ahead in time then to Monday, December the twenty third, 1113 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: eleven am Eastern early game, early game for you, ten 1114 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: am Central on a Monday, on a Monday. 1115 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 2: This is right at my wheelhouse. I got the TV 1116 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 2: right here. It'll just be on in the background. Continue 1117 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 2: Myrtle Beach. 1118 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: No, I'll be I'll be in Mexico, won't I may 1119 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: call yes, yeah, okay, sure, this will be all over 1120 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: Mexican television. Continue. Coast of Carolina six and six. UTSA 1121 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: also six and six and favored by six and a 1122 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: half points. 1123 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 2: Probably rightfully so. Coastal is down two quarterbacks, both the 1124 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 2: best quarterbacks. 1125 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 1: Both of their quarterbacks are in the portal. Also, it 1126 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: looks like they're going to start a guy named Tad 1127 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: Okay Richard freshman Tad Hudson. He's never taken a snap 1128 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: before there's a freshman behind him. Per the Action Network, 1129 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: Tim Beck joked that he is quote taking reporters out 1130 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: for tryouts end quote. 1131 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 2: If you told me Tad Hudson regularly pitch complete games 1132 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 2: for the Washington Senators in nineteen twenty seven, I'm like 1133 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:06,439 Speaker 2: that sounds right. 1134 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 1: Good job, Ted. They've got a bunch of other guys 1135 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: in the portal, notably one of the great names we've 1136 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: ever seen in this sport, Matthew McDoom the corner. 1137 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Is he related to Eddie? 1138 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 1: He must, he has to be. There's not a lot 1139 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: of mcdooms out there. No, they're also kind of nicked up, 1140 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: kind of hurt. Let me just get out in front 1141 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: of this. Don't pick Coastal Utsa is not perfect, but 1142 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: they they and they may not be at full strength, 1143 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: they're still better. 1144 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 2: They finished stronger. Yeah, they finished their offense. 1145 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think we should go both sides of 1146 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: this one. I think we should give people the option. Okay, 1147 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: since we seem pretty adamant about this, one of our 1148 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: Bingo card items can be UTSA minus the points. The 1149 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: other can be Coastal plus the points. Okay, seems fair enough, 1150 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: especially since we don't know who's playing where, right, that's true. 1151 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: Just keep this one simple. Maybe you feel strongly about 1152 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: one of these versus the other. This trophy here is 1153 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 1: your standard Isshue gold football top a rectangular pedestal dan 1154 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: actually more of a cong cave rectangular pedestal, so it 1155 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: sort of curves in. See. 1156 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 2: The big problem here is when you go to these 1157 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 2: trophy cabinets in the whatever and the administrative building, you 1158 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 2: just you want stuff that tells a story. 1159 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: This you can buy online for like one hundred and 1160 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: fifty bucks. Yeah, this is it's so forgettable. I have 1161 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: not done the full second batch. We're going to do 1162 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 1: that again on Thursday, right right now. In my Power 1163 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: rankings one through seventeen, this is number seventeen. This is 1164 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 1: the worst trophy that we are talking about today. It's 1165 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach one. It's horrible. It is the football, the 1166 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 1: con cave pedestal, and they just have like a very 1167 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 1: chinzy looking Myrtle Beach Bowl logo on it. You gotta 1168 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: be better. I mean, there's so much going on at 1169 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,959 Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach. You named it after a tourist. Hot put 1170 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: golf clubs on there put like you're next to the ocean. 1171 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Like all of this stuff, you can do put a 1172 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 1: put a wave on and do something. This is just brutal. 1173 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 2: This is a Myrtle Beach has has many ghost stories, 1174 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,479 Speaker 2: including the tales of Alice Flagg and the Gray Man. 1175 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 2: Crazy to put the Gray Man on there? 1176 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Do it? Well, not before we research what the grave is, 1177 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: not before he could be? Is he problematic? He could be. 1178 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I can't say one way 1179 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 2: or the other. There's an aquarium, there's nice gardens there. 1180 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 2: There's a great Christmas light show in Myrtle Beach. Apparently 1181 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 2: you can make a better trophy than this. Guys, you're 1182 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 2: paying for the game, pay more for the. 1183 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Trophy seaside golf. 1184 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 2: It'd be weird to put golf clubs on a football 1185 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 2: trophy that I can understand. I'm staying away from. 1186 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Monday twelve, twenty three December the twenty third, 1187 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: two three pm. The famous Idaho Potato Bowl. Now we're talking. 1188 01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm Stephanie joyans On, behalf of the Idaho Potato Commission. Yeah. 1189 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 2: Continue, Northern Illinois seven and five, Fresno State six and six. 1190 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 2: Now this is a wheelhouse matchup for you, Ty, let's 1191 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 2: get that Northern Illinois deep dive from mister Notre Dame. 1192 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: No, I'm not doing that. It still hurts, Dan. 1193 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Pass defense one of the best in America. 1194 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Still hurts. Still hurts. Yeah, they were right there. Notre 1195 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Dame was right there. They were right. There's Northern Illinois. 1196 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: Fresno was hiring Matt Intz to be its next coach. 1197 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: He was with USC last year this season before that, 1198 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: won two championships in five years, North Dakota State, something 1199 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: like that, Right, I have a sawce spot for hiring 1200 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 1: the North Dakota State guys. Ever since we were up 1201 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: there for that playoff game. Sure, so curiously how that 1202 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: ends up working out. Fresno is hollowed out a bit 1203 01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 1: on offense, though we got Mikey Keene back in the 1204 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Portal Macdalena, their wide receiver declared for the draft. Got 1205 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: a handful of other losses out wide and really at 1206 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 1: all three levels of the defense. My gut says Fresno anyway, 1207 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: because and I use in the mac and I try 1208 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: to abide by your rules if it makes sense, But 1209 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm not too confident in that one, Dan and. 1210 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 2: I you is down a ton of dudes in the portal, 1211 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 2: as is Fresno. So then it becomes like, do you 1212 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 2: trust and I use coaching staff. I mean it's Ethan Hampton, right, 1213 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 2: then I use that's that's quarterback in the portal. Yeah, 1214 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 2: Fresno quarterback mikey Kem in the portal. 1215 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: Correct. 1216 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 2: So I don't think it's a rock fight as much 1217 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 2: as it is like dueling second baseman pitching in the 1218 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 2: twenty fourth inning. I guess Fresno. I guess with a 1219 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 2: little more firepower in the backups, I would assume more firepower. 1220 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: With for Fresno's backups. So I'm will Fresno. I think 1221 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: we agree. Yeah, I think we agree on that one. 1222 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on this? I have maybe a trophy, bet, 1223 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: a trophy bet Okay. There have been different variations of 1224 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: this trophy over the years, but it's one of it's 1225 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,959 Speaker 1: one of the few that I think are legit great. 1226 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 2: It's one of the I mean, it's the easiest trophy 1227 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 2: to make because the what should be on the trophy 1228 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 2: is right there in the name. 1229 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: They're pulling an orange bowl. They're given the winner a 1230 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: big old bull of spuds. Great, some good meaty Russets 1231 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: in there, Dan, I love it. So I'm just wondering, 1232 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: can we fashion a bet around like somebody spilling the 1233 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: potatoes out of the bowl as they put as they 1234 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 1: pick it up. Is that it might be too abstract, tie, 1235 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 1: too abstract? Okay, we need something for the famous side 1236 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: hohoed Potato Bowl, though. We got to have something here 1237 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: for this that we put in. 1238 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 2: Hmmm, so blue turf, blue turn Fresno State. 1239 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Like it kind of feels like this could be a 1240 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: very very ugly offensive game. To me, I would say, 1241 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: can't does it? 1242 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 2: It's a it's a plus minus either team scoring twenty 1243 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 2: nine and a half total points. 1244 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. Potato Bowl one team 1245 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 1: over twenty nine and a half points. 1246 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, total not It doesn't have to be offensive total points, 1247 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 2: just total points. 1248 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: One team scoring twenty nine and a half points. Correct. 1249 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 1: By the way, shout out. 1250 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 2: My college roommate is from Boise, and when I was there, 1251 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 2: the fun fact I learned is like the Idaho Potato 1252 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 2: baron has like a compound in Boise and it's kind 1253 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 2: of on a big hill and there's some sort of 1254 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 2: annual event where people ride potato sacks down Old man 1255 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 2: Simplot's Hill. 1256 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: He might be he might be like. 1257 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 2: The McDonald's seller, like he might sell potatoes to Idaho. 1258 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 2: The other thing I learned about famous Idaho potatoes, I 1259 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 2: think they export far more, Like nobody eats Idaho potatoes 1260 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 2: in Idaho really, because it's such a huge export that 1261 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 2: they just. 1262 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 1: Where do they come? Where do they come from? Then? 1263 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 2: Well, I know, I think they grow the potatoes in Idaho, 1264 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 2: but because they had the reputation of being such good potatoes, 1265 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 2: like ninety nine percent of them are shipped out, so 1266 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,439 Speaker 2: they have to bring in potatoes from elsewhere or there's 1267 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 2: just not in a lot of people in Idaho. 1268 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: So potatoes, well, that's probably more the case. Yeah, Tuesday. 1269 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: This one's on Christmas Eve, eight pm. It's the Hawaii 1270 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 1: Bowl between USF and San Jose State. Dan. This is 1271 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 1: an excellent trophy game, and I'm going to tell you 1272 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 1: how they came up with the idea. Okay, they've been 1273 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: playing this game since two thousand and two. I cannot 1274 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,919 Speaker 1: confirm this, but this is my assumption, having been deep 1275 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: in the underbelly of corporate America for many years. At 1276 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 1: some point in the aughts, there was a meeting and 1277 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 1: probably an intern who said, hey, you know, a football 1278 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: does kind of look like a pineapple. It totally does. 1279 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 1: Why don't why don't we make the trophy a football 1280 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 1: dressed up as a pineapple? 1281 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 2: How does how does a football dress up like a pineapple? 1282 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you just like put like football stuff on a pineapple? 1283 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 2: They just didn't. 1284 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 1: Kind of, it's more of the it's more of the 1285 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 1: other way around. It's it's a football, and then they 1286 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 1: just kind of have like the pineapple like roots coming 1287 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: out of Okay, like it's got it's like a football 1288 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 1: with like a mohawk kind of thing. God, I like that. 1289 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 2: It's great. It's pineapple with laces. Probably would have been cool. 1290 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, just I mean, it does have laces. 1291 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: It's a football with the little pineapple thing, right right, Okay, 1292 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: but again, this is what I'm talking about New Orleans, 1293 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach, even Scooter's Frisco Ball, Like, come on, guys, 1294 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Just keep it simple, stupid, 1295 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: that's all you gotta do. Owai did it well? Usf 1296 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 1: San Jose State, Dan who you got? First of all, 1297 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: it's called a crown, the crown, thank you. The pineapple Crown. 1298 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I had to look it up. 1299 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 1: That's what I meant. You know what I meant. 1300 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm won in San Jose State here. Both for geography, 1301 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 2: there's like this weird subplot with USF football that any 1302 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 2: week now Byron Brown is coming back and that still 1303 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 2: hasn't happened. Maybe he'll suit up for the Hawaii Bowl. Also, 1304 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 2: Kenya Modalolo is a Hawaiian high school quarterbacking legend. I 1305 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 2: just don't think there's any way that they lose this game, 1306 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 2: that they leave the Islands with an l So with 1307 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,320 Speaker 2: this offense, I'm won in San Jose State here. I 1308 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 2: feel good about them. I don't know what's Nick Nash's 1309 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 2: status unclear, unclear, unclear unclear at time of recording. 1310 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, hmmm, let me think if there's anything on the 1311 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: line here passing wise, because it's such a new thing 1312 01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 1: for Kenyu Mondololo teams to pass like they do, what 1313 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: would be I feel like we may need a bet 1314 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 1: if we're going to get some ken Nea Modalolo tiers. 1315 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 1: Now that might be a little too subjective. Now, let's see, 1316 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: it's it's unclear because coming back to Hawaii, right where 1317 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 1: there's obvious roots, and as you said, was a legend. 1318 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 1: I think we might get that. I kind of kicked 1319 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: around the idea of like will there be a gatorade 1320 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 1: dump on ken Neia Modaloo. The problem is you don't 1321 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 1: always see that stuff win and you don't know if 1322 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 1: they're going to win, right, So you're kind of going 1323 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 1: a step further. I think I am inclined to go 1324 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 1: San Jose State minus the number as one of the bets. Okay, 1325 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: just to keep it simple, just you know, maybe you 1326 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 1: feel strongly as you do for San Jose State. And 1327 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,559 Speaker 1: then I want to go total yards in this game. 1328 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 1: And here's why I want to say this. There is 1329 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: some portal action on the us F side, mostly on defense. 1330 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: That's not to say that this has been a shutdown 1331 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 1: defense at all this season. It's not really their calling card, right, 1332 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: But I'm curious. This feels to me like a game 1333 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: that could end up being a random shootout. And so 1334 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 1: not only would I put San Jose State minus three, 1335 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 1: but I want to go over under total yardage at 1336 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 1: four fifty both teams four hundred. 1337 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 2: For both teams four hundred, Like you think it's gonna 1338 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 2: be a crazy shootout. I think it could be a 1339 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,320 Speaker 2: creat Let's go five to fifty total yards both teams, 1340 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,799 Speaker 2: so six fifty. Let's go higher, six fifty six fifty 1341 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 2: both teams. Yeah, total yardage, but add up both their 1342 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 2: total yardage? Does it go over six fifty? Oh oh, 1343 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 2: I thought, Look, so it is a shootout. They would 1344 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 2: both go over five hundred probably higher shootout. 1345 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 1: What should we go eight hundred? Both teams each go? 1346 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 1: If the each go over four eight hundred should clear? 1347 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 2: Yes, come combined eight hundred total yards. 1348 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 1: You'll make it seven ninety nine and a half, just 1349 01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: to kind of seven. 1350 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,559 Speaker 2: Here's the other thing you gotta remember the tie ball 1351 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 2: season Alex Goulish forty five nothing over Syracuse. We went 1352 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 2: and whooped that ass, didn't we? 1353 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 1: That's right? That's right. 1354 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 2: So maybe our confidence San Jose State shouldn't be as 1355 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 2: high as it is. 1356 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 1: So I'm saying weird Christmas Eve shootout? 1357 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 2: I think so too. Seven hundred ninety nine and a 1358 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 2: half total yards over under. 1359 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,600 Speaker 1: What you got? Thursdays day after Christmas seven of the 1360 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 1: twenty six two PM the game above Sports Bowl? What 1361 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: is that? What is game above? I looked this up? 1362 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 1: Did you not look it up. Game. I did not 1363 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 1: look this up. 1364 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 2: No, I think it's a Okay, I have this in 1365 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 2: my Google game above is this? It sounds like entertainment 1366 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 2: seven to twenty okay? 1367 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 1: Game above. 1368 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 2: It is a successful multifaceted brand that includes charitable giving, 1369 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 2: capital investments, sports, entertainment, and media ventures. It was started 1370 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 2: in Ipsel, Annie, so just outside of ann Arber. It's 1371 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,600 Speaker 2: I think associated with Eastern Michigan. Okay, I don't know 1372 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 2: exactly what any of those. 1373 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 1: What do they do? I looked at the logo for 1374 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 1: this game. It looks like a canvas special. I'm a 1375 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,680 Speaker 1: little bit worried about what. I have no idea what 1376 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 1: the trophy looks like. Their website for the bowl game 1377 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,640 Speaker 1: is part of the Detroit Lions team website because this 1378 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 1: used to be the Qui Quick Lane Bowl, which they 1379 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 1: play at Ford Field, HM. Used to be the Little 1380 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 1: Caesars Pizza Bowl before that. Right, I don't know what 1381 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 1: the trophy is. All I can go on all inside. 1382 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 1: All I can go on is the logo, which to 1383 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 1: me leaves a lot to be desired. I agree this 1384 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,080 Speaker 1: is pitt. This is Toledo. Both teams are seven and five. 1385 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 1: Pit's a pretty healthy favorite. I am not crazy about 1386 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 1: Toledo here, and it's really got little to do with 1387 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 1: your rule and more to do with me just thinking 1388 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Pitt's better. They're more injured, but I think they're better. 1389 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:56,799 Speaker 1: I don't know about Eli Holstein. 1390 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 2: Nate Yarnell in the portal, right. 1391 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about you. It looks like Desmond 1392 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 1: Reed is gonna be good to go the running back 1393 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 1: for pick. But you're right, Yarnie's in the portal. If 1394 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 1: it's not Holstein, they may be turning it over to 1395 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 1: a red shirt freshman and David Lynch, but again, great name. 1396 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 1: Just unclear to me where things stand for Pitt on 1397 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback position and with some of the injury stuff. 1398 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 1: I think I'm still on pit though, because I think 1399 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,680 Speaker 1: they're just a better team. But they may what does 1400 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 1: that come? They may not be able to cover that 1401 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: night in the Game Above Bowl. Yeah, I don't know 1402 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 1: where are you at here? I'm just thinking about Game 1403 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:48,679 Speaker 1: Above more than anything else here. Ty, multifaceted brand, storyteller, poet, actor, writer, mother. 1404 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Pitt as well. I'm gonna go 1405 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,640 Speaker 1: with Pitt as well. I don't know what again, Toledo's 1406 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 1: status in the portal because all these Mac teams. 1407 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, hit pretty hard. Toledo is down not that many plays, 1408 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 2: it does it work? Is down more players. Yeah, it 1409 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 2: doesn't look horrible to me. I'm gonna go Toledo here, 1410 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,080 Speaker 2: you're going zips. I think pit on a slide. 1411 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 1: Rockets when end of the year, I'm thinking acron Excuse me, 1412 01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 1: I did a video in the Rockets and Rockets. 1413 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1414 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well in Toledo Gamebo Sports Bowl, Dan. I think 1415 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 1: there are opportunities here for interesting bets. Okay. I want 1416 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 1: to look at Desmond reid rushing yardage. It sounds like 1417 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 1: he will be good to go. He may not be 1418 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,920 Speaker 1: good to go, but that's part of the bet. I 1419 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: would go over let's say one hundred and ten rushing 1420 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 1: yards for Desmond Reid. I like that. 1421 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,680 Speaker 2: Okay, how about this. It could be Desmond Read or 1422 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 2: whoever has the most carries for pitt a pit running back, 1423 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 2: a pit running back hundred and nine and a. 1424 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,760 Speaker 1: Half over one oh nine and a half yards. I 1425 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 1: like that. Okay, that's fabulous, fabulous the ambulus on the 1426 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 1: Toledo side, on the Rocket side, Yes, I think it's 1427 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,439 Speaker 1: a question of passing offense for me personally, and I 1428 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of confidence in it. So 1429 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 1: let's say over one seventy five a Toledo quarterback goes 1430 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 1: over one hundred and seventy five, one hundred and seventy 1431 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 1: four and a half. Okay, your rd's passing. Okay, we'll 1432 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 1: keep this one more player Proppy, Okay, fair enough. I'm 1433 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 1: switching my pick to Pitt. Gotta go. 1434 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm going back to pet. I'm swinging back in the 1435 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:35,799 Speaker 2: pit direction. 1436 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,639 Speaker 1: Also on Thursday, five thirty pm, it's the Rate Bowl. 1437 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 2: You used to be guaranteed, right, Apparently it's not guaranteed anymore. Sorry, guys, 1438 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 2: we made a bunch of promises there is all right, 1439 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 2: not guaranteed. 1440 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 1: They give out a two dimensional silver cactus that is 1441 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 1: shaped like a goalpost and it's got a football going 1442 01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:56,640 Speaker 1: through it. 1443 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 2: Hm. 1444 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: They play this this one in Arizona, which is why 1445 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,200 Speaker 1: they're doing the whole cactus thing. But it's not the 1446 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: Arizona Bowl because that's a different game, right, I don't 1447 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 1: this is This is a piss poor effort from the 1448 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 1: guaranteed Rate folks. Dan, it just is, Well, you can 1449 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: tell me why you could have a very creative spin 1450 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:23,120 Speaker 1: on something other than the standard issue cactus shaped like 1451 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,160 Speaker 1: the goalpost with the ball going through it. It just 1452 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,600 Speaker 1: seems like this is AI generated. To me, this is 1453 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 1: a pisspoort. There's no creativity in this whatsoever. 1454 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:36,840 Speaker 2: If it were me and it's not. I have the 1455 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 2: golden mangled skycam that fell during this game, and like 1456 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,360 Speaker 2: two thousand oh, I don't even know two thousand and nine, ten, 1457 01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,000 Speaker 2: I think I always in that game. That was when 1458 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 2: it was either the Insight or Insight dot Com right 1459 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 2: was this I'm on the site right now it was. 1460 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,240 Speaker 2: Was it ever the Micron PC Bowl or was that. 1461 01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,639 Speaker 1: A different gosh? I have no idea. Okay, the finally 1462 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 1: the family trees on a lot of these bowl games 1463 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: are preposterous. Oh my god. 1464 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 2: Okay, Copper Bowl nineteen eighty nine, Domino's Pizza, Copper Bowl, 1465 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 2: wiser Lock Copper Bowl, Standard Copper Bowl, Insight dot Com, Insight, 1466 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 2: Buffalo Wild Wings, Ticket City, Cactus Motel six, Cactus Straight 1467 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,559 Speaker 2: Cactus Cheese at Bowl, Guaranteed Rate Bowl Rate Bowl. 1468 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's it? I remember the coppera ble love the 1469 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 1: Copper Bowl. I don't like this trophy is a lousy trophy. 1470 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 1: Rutgers seven and five, Kansas State eight and four. I 1471 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 1: am watching specifically both running backs here. Sure, I want 1472 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 1: to see if we get any opt outs. We could 1473 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 1: see an opt out from the heel Monster Kylemanan Gai. 1474 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 1: We could see an opt out from DJ Giddens for 1475 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 1: Kansas State. I think k State's the better team, full stop, 1476 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 1: better team. There's a reason why they're favored here by 1477 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 1: this metric. And I don't know about seventeen or seven points. 1478 01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Excuse me. Yeah, I don't see a whole lot of 1479 01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 1: transfers right now to their name. Seems like they are 1480 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 1: healthy enough. We know that they've been somewhat inconsistent, but 1481 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 1: they should be better than Rutgers. 1482 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 2: Don't you think they lost at least and offensive lineman 1483 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 2: starting offensive lineman Kansas State. I wanted to Carver. I 1484 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 2: think his name is Carver, Yeah, Carver Willis Yeah. I 1485 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 2: think he's off to Washington. I'm gonna go Kansas State 1486 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,240 Speaker 2: here as well, though I should know. I don't know 1487 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,760 Speaker 2: the status Kamanong guy, I don't know if you mentioned that. 1488 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,320 Speaker 1: I apologize if you did. 1489 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 2: Rutgers was like two and a half minutes away. From 1490 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 2: being ten and two. Now, winning is a skill that 1491 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 2: they did not possess. But you look at the UCLA game, 1492 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 2: Nebraska game, obviously the Illinois game with Pat Bryant. Not 1493 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 2: to bring up painful memories for Rutgers fans, they were 1494 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,720 Speaker 2: led by their offense weirdly enough, which wasn't great, but 1495 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 2: their defense kind of fell off this year. I mean 1496 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,479 Speaker 2: client to take Rutgers, I'm going Kansas State just because 1497 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,519 Speaker 2: I think they have a higher ceiling here, less travel, 1498 01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 2: so I'm going case State here. 1499 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:05,640 Speaker 1: Interesting thing to note, Yeah, the over under here is 1500 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 1: fifty one and a half points. Okay, that feels very 1501 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,000 Speaker 1: high to me. I want to put over under in 1502 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 1: this on this bingo card. Okay, on one side you've 1503 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 1: got over fifty one and a half. On the other 1504 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 1: you've got under fifty one and a half. The lines 1505 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,639 Speaker 1: may change by the time you gets to your bingo card. 1506 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 1: But the points, the total in this one, to me 1507 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,599 Speaker 1: is something of interest. I could make a case for both. 1508 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I can make a case for a lot of points. 1509 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 1: I can make a case for just a rock fight 1510 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,720 Speaker 1: that they score like twenty three in total. Sure, So 1511 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 1: I'm going to add the over under to our bingo card. 1512 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,639 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, No, Avery Johnson prop two and a half 1513 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 2: total touchdowns running and Pa. 1514 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,400 Speaker 1: Do you want to do that? We could do that too, 1515 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 1: Avery Johnson. 1516 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,120 Speaker 2: Two and a half, three and a half. What do 1517 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,759 Speaker 2: you want it to be? Two and a half anyway 1518 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,719 Speaker 2: he gets if he catches a fake pass for a touchdown, counts. Yeah, 1519 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,479 Speaker 2: two and a half total touchdowns, Avery Johnson. We're going 1520 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 2: to keep the over under in here and the Avery 1521 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 2: Johnson bed as well. 1522 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 1: Yes, okay. Also on Thursday, getting here to the bitter 1523 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 1: end of our bull batch. We've got about five six 1524 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,920 Speaker 1: games left to go. Throw them, try to zip through them. 1525 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 1: The sixty eight Ventures Bowl, Dan, Okay, this was the 1526 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,479 Speaker 1: website you went on last year and noticed that some 1527 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 1: of the executives sound like sec quarterbacks. Do you remember 1528 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:27,600 Speaker 1: I remember that? 1529 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,640 Speaker 2: Yes, It's like some kind of like insurance company or 1530 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 2: something real estate company in Birmingham. 1531 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,680 Speaker 1: It's sort of like a real estate development issue a 1532 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 1: company from what I could gather the money quote on 1533 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 1: their mission statement is or in their mission statement quote. 1534 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,760 Speaker 1: Our culture is heavily influenced by the military and athletic 1535 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 1: experiences of many of our team members, to which I 1536 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 1: say they may be SEC quarterbacks. Yeah, there may be 1537 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 1: some truth to that. We've got Arkansas State at seven 1538 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 1: and five. We've got Bowling Green at seven and five. 1539 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,839 Speaker 1: Dan Harold fannin gonna play. 1540 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,960 Speaker 2: Man, of course, of course he is gonna prove all 1541 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 2: those MACKI voters wrong once again, like he did all 1542 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:09,800 Speaker 2: season long. 1543 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 1: All starters are reportedly playing for Bowling Green. Hell yeah, 1544 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:21,679 Speaker 1: I think we gotta go Falcons here, right? I where's 1545 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 1: this game? 1546 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:26,760 Speaker 2: Where's the sixty eight Ventures Bowl located Birmingham. That's a 1547 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 2: tough sell. I think Arkansas State might travel somewhat well 1548 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 2: to this one. This is the fourth team I believe 1549 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 2: Butch Jones has taken to a bowl game. 1550 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,519 Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, Mobile Alabama? Excuse me, I was close. 1551 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to Arkansas State here. I don't know why, 1552 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,679 Speaker 2: I don't know how, but if I'm gonna say, well, 1553 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:48,759 Speaker 2: Harold Fannon could single handily do this. Arkansas State's defense 1554 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,880 Speaker 2: this year was awful. Yeah, they're very bad. They weren't 1555 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,559 Speaker 2: great to end the year. They lost to ODU five 1556 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,960 Speaker 2: and seven. But I'm gonna go with Arkansas State neverthe 1557 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 2: less to take down a MAC team, and I'm gonna 1558 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,480 Speaker 2: stick with my ethos. 1559 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,000 Speaker 1: I want you to think up a Harold finn In 1560 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,720 Speaker 1: centric bet while I rant about this trophy. Okay, I 1561 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,920 Speaker 1: already have it one hundred and twenty five. Well do 1562 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 1: you want it? You? Yardage? Touchdowns catches up to you. 1563 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 1: You're the phanoma of this show, So why don't you 1564 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,360 Speaker 1: tell me what you think? Uh? Six and a half catches, 1565 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,800 Speaker 1: Harold Fannin. Wow, is that low? It feels kind of low, 1566 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 1: but it you don't know. You just don't know. Six 1567 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,439 Speaker 1: and a half catches. Okay, now we'll go six and 1568 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:34,160 Speaker 1: a half. Is good enough? 1569 01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,640 Speaker 2: Eaten and a half, eight and a half. Let's go 1570 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 2: seven and a half, seven and a half. 1571 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 1: There. It is this trophy, Dan, for a company that's 1572 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,679 Speaker 1: doing as well as the sixty eight Ventures website would 1573 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 1: lead you to believe. This trophy looks like it's something 1574 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 1: influenced by that crystal bowl that you may have in 1575 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 1: your pantry that a lot of people have in their pantry, 1576 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 1: the thing that you use once a year and you 1577 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 1: maybe put fruit punch or shrimp cocktail in it. Okay, 1578 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 1: that's what this trophy is. That's the triph. No, no, 1579 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,200 Speaker 1: not okay, it's like a wooden peasant. Anything in the 1580 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 1: bowl is Are there not even shrimp? No? No, there's 1581 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,800 Speaker 1: nothing in the Alabama golf shrimp. No, no, nothing in 1582 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,479 Speaker 1: the ball. It'd be better if they put the golf 1583 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,599 Speaker 1: shrimp in it. I agree. This is a crystal bowl. 1584 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,439 Speaker 1: That's it. That's all. There's nothing in the bowl. Nothing. 1585 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,439 Speaker 1: This is the second year that sixty eight Ventures has 1586 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 1: had this bowl game. They're giving out a crystal bowl. 1587 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 2: In their defense, it is the most it is literally 1588 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,559 Speaker 2: the most literal thing that they could give away in 1589 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,479 Speaker 2: a bowl game, a ball, I guess, you know. 1590 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough, so they they I don't know, 1591 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 1: but put something in it, inscribe something on it. This 1592 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,519 Speaker 1: it's this trophy comes across to me like, oh hey, guys, 1593 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,680 Speaker 1: we could use this as a tax right off things. Right, 1594 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 1: of course. Gotta do better, guys, you just gotta got 1595 01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,600 Speaker 1: to do better than a bull Harold fannin seven and 1596 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 1: a half catches. I think on the flip side of 1597 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: this one, we're gonna do Arkansas State money line just 1598 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 1: in case. Okay, just in case, just in case, something 1599 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:17,200 Speaker 1: to counter your herald phantom fan fiction. 1600 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:21,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, fan whatever, Okay, Friday twelve, twenty seven, 1601 01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,839 Speaker 2: high noon, it's the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl Dan Okay, 1602 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,719 Speaker 2: Oklahoma against Navy. 1603 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 1: Interesting matchup on the surface, Okay, this trophy does not 1604 01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 1: look like anything special. I did the research. I went 1605 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:44,679 Speaker 1: below the surface on this. Lockey puts some money into 1606 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 1: this thing. 1607 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how much. Soccer the world's biggest 1608 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 2: defense contractor. Shocker, I know, I don't know how much 1609 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 2: this thing costs. That's what I was looking for and 1610 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 2: I could not find it. 1611 01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. There is a five and a half minute vide 1612 01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 1: on the website for this Bowl game showing how they 1613 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:09,439 Speaker 1: made it. Yeah. Quote. The trophy contains decommissioned pieces of 1614 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 1: Lockheed Martin aircraft, spacecraft, and weapons that are field tested 1615 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,800 Speaker 1: and battle ready, like the armed forces that inspire it, 1616 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,839 Speaker 1: representing each of the six branches of the US Armed Forces. 1617 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 1: Each piece that goes into this trophy is an iconic 1618 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:30,280 Speaker 1: symbol befitting of those who answer the call of duty. 1619 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,599 Speaker 1: Dog Ah, I think. 1620 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give opinions on our our Patreon show continue. 1621 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 1: If that sounds heavy. Yeah, it's also sixty five friggin pounds. 1622 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate that there is some weight, there. 1623 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,760 Speaker 1: Is some girth to this, so it's it's a foot. 1624 01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,200 Speaker 1: It's like a Matt Black football kind of has like 1625 01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:58,800 Speaker 1: a little pedestal holding it up. You watch the video 1626 01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 1: and at some point it hit you like a ton 1627 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,879 Speaker 1: of bricks. This thing's gonna be heavy, sixty five pounds, 1628 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 1: sixty five pounds. So I commend them for the at least, 1629 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,880 Speaker 1: if nothing more of the story behind it. I cannot 1630 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,160 Speaker 1: verify that all the things are in the trophy, the 1631 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 1: DNA of the trophy the way they claim, right. But 1632 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 1: if nothing more, I'll take a good story from where 1633 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm sitting because I got to deal with the Myrtle 1634 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,920 Speaker 1: Beach Bowl here and this ain't that right? What do 1635 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,599 Speaker 1: you got from me? Oklahoma versus Navy. 1636 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:33,280 Speaker 2: Oklahoma versus Navy, weird matchup right right? Yes, Oklahoma down obviously, 1637 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 2: key pieces whatever you want to call a piece when 1638 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,120 Speaker 2: you go six and six right is where Oklahoma fished six, 1639 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 2: six and six nyve disappointing end to their year. Oklahoma 1640 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,639 Speaker 2: strength is their defense. This will be a Michael Hawkins game, 1641 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:48,680 Speaker 2: I believe for Oklahoma. 1642 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,559 Speaker 1: Yes, so Jackson, Arnold, JJ Hester, Jalil Farouk all in 1643 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 1: the portal, Nick Anderson, Danny Stutsman could opt out their 1644 01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,320 Speaker 1: stud defender Navy. Of course, there is nobody in the 1645 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,200 Speaker 1: portal as you might expect, right, and it is a 1646 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:09,680 Speaker 1: Michael Hawkins game. Yeah, I'm still going to go Oklahoma 1647 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 1: in this one. How about that. 1648 01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,040 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna run well. I think the Navy 1649 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,680 Speaker 2: defense is gonna struggle and there's still there are still 1650 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 2: enough key pieces on this Oklahoma defense that they get stopped. 1651 01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm going Oklahoma. Here is the question for the bingo card. Okay, 1652 01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,040 Speaker 1: how many yards rushing does Navy come away with against 1653 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 1: a good Oklahoma defense? How many yards rushing? 1654 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,040 Speaker 2: What was Navy's I'm putting on the spot here. What 1655 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,920 Speaker 2: was Navy's average output in a game rushing yardage? I 1656 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 2: can tell you right now. I can you can be 1657 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 2: like five seconds five. 1658 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,760 Speaker 1: If I if I had to take a guess, I 1659 01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:50,719 Speaker 1: would say average output two forty two. 1660 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 2: To forty seven per game. 1661 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:54,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 1662 01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 2: In the American it was two thirty eight, So you 1663 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 2: were right in the middle there. So why don't we 1664 01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,080 Speaker 2: call it two hundred even or one ninety nine and 1665 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:02,519 Speaker 2: a half. 1666 01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 1: Against one nine and a half. I like it, Okay, 1667 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,880 Speaker 1: I like it. Do we want to do anything against 1668 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 1: the other way for Oklahoma? Something with the Oklahoma offense 1669 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 1: because for the Navy side of things, obviously the rushing 1670 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,559 Speaker 1: offense was kind of like the biggest show in town. 1671 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 1: H but Oklahoma the offense was very much in question 1672 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,080 Speaker 1: for a good chunk of the year, the Michael Hawkins 1673 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold roller coaster ride with something else It has 1674 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 1: since now driven Jackson Arnold out right? Is there a 1675 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,679 Speaker 1: prop bet a touchdown bet for Michael Hawkins junior? 1676 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:45,880 Speaker 2: So longest touchdown pass over under for Oklahoma fourteen and 1677 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:51,719 Speaker 2: a half yards? Oh not, that could be comically low. 1678 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 2: That could be comic. 1679 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,240 Speaker 1: It's got to go higher. I think it's got to 1680 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:54,719 Speaker 1: go higher. 1681 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:56,679 Speaker 2: Longest touchdown I watched. 1682 01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:01,200 Speaker 1: I watched Navy against Notre Dame that I watched Oklahoma 1683 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,360 Speaker 1: against South Carolina. South Carolina plays defense, though. 1684 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,759 Speaker 2: Okay, so fine, you want twenty four and a half 1685 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,559 Speaker 2: longest touchdown pass I'm. 1686 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 1: Going to jot down twenty four and a half. I 1687 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,400 Speaker 1: want to see what the actual line is. 1688 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,160 Speaker 2: People have come up with the line that ridiculous. 1689 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,120 Speaker 1: Somebody's got that line. Okay, we will have some version 1690 01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 1: of this Okay, some version of this will be on 1691 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 1: the bingo card, Michael Hawkins or just overall touchdown Pat. 1692 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 1: We'll come up with something. Okay, okay, okay, we got 1693 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,519 Speaker 1: four left. Let's buzz through. Here we go, coming to 1694 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,360 Speaker 1: the end. Long show. But this has been fun. Birmingham Bowl, 1695 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,920 Speaker 1: George Tech minus two and a half, Vandy squaring off 1696 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,479 Speaker 1: against Tech. They are six and six Tech finish a 1697 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: real year, fun matchup. Yeah, this is, as Bill Connolly said, 1698 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:53,880 Speaker 1: two of the leading characters this season Dan, Yes, strong 1699 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:59,799 Speaker 1: trophy game and they took a chance here. Not gonna lie. 1700 01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 1: This is a trophy inspired from a Vulcan statue that 1701 01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,800 Speaker 1: sits atop the nearby Red Mountain. It's been there since 1702 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,920 Speaker 1: before World War Two. I had no idea this was 1703 01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:14,160 Speaker 1: a thing. Awesome. This guy's a Roman god. Also, of note, 1704 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 1: he is not wearing pants and in the trophy his 1705 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:23,960 Speaker 1: bare ass is fully exposed. I appreciate this. I pray 1706 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 1: we appreciate all of it. Very strong trophy game here, 1707 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:27,560 Speaker 1: very strong. 1708 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,400 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech down some key pieces to the portal, notably 1709 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:35,479 Speaker 2: what Eric Singleton yep, Eric big play receiver yep. I'm 1710 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,960 Speaker 2: still going to go Georgia Tech here. I'm still going 1711 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,400 Speaker 2: to go Georgia going Vandy. 1712 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,400 Speaker 1: Really see now, if Georgia Tech were to win, does 1713 01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:48,600 Speaker 1: that indirectly validate SMU over Bama? Maybe? 1714 01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,320 Speaker 2: I think it's a huge referendum referendum on the SEC 1715 01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,400 Speaker 2: as a whole. I think there might be no bigger 1716 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:59,439 Speaker 2: bowl game that can stand in as a referendum on 1717 01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 2: what the SE see is or isn't that Georgi attack bandy? 1718 01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,200 Speaker 1: All right, we need to have a Haines King versus 1719 01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:06,439 Speaker 1: Diego Pavia bet here. 1720 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:11,040 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do total yardage since they're both dual threats 1721 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:11,800 Speaker 2: something like that. 1722 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,439 Speaker 1: Do you want to do Haines King total yardage? I 1723 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:19,559 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be all on Haines King, I think. Okay, 1724 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,120 Speaker 1: And for Diego Pavia, why don't we do touchdowns? Total touchdowns? Oh? 1725 01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:24,760 Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna have head to head. Who's 1726 01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,160 Speaker 2: going to have more total yardage? 1727 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Oh? Do you want to do that? Yeah? Okay, Haines 1728 01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 1: King more. 1729 01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:34,200 Speaker 2: See what the status was Haines King's shoulder, Yeah was 1730 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,639 Speaker 2: what was ailing him this year? 1731 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Haines King more total yards and Diego Pavia Pavia 1732 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 1: more total yards than Haines King. 1733 01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah great, I can hear. I can tell you what 1734 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 2: they're what yards not yards from scrimmage, that's running back 1735 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:55,840 Speaker 2: in uh total offense right yeah yeah, total offense. Haines 1736 01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:02,720 Speaker 2: King versus Haines King total yardage was two forty eight 1737 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 2: point eight in every game. Diego Pavia two thirty seven 1738 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,960 Speaker 2: to four. Right there, not bad. 1739 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,599 Speaker 1: I like it. I like training, your training, your thought 1740 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 1: here Friday Getting the Zone twelve twenty seven, seven pm 1741 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 1: AutoZone Liberty Ball. Yes, Texas Tech against Arkansas. This could 1742 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,680 Speaker 1: be a fun game. This why I jotted down this 1743 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,200 Speaker 1: feels like max chaos to me. M hm. We got 1744 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Arkansas banged up along the line. They've got six healthy 1745 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,320 Speaker 1: scholarship offensive lineman left. Three of their linemen are in 1746 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 1: the portal. They've also got a starting wide receiver their 1747 01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:43,120 Speaker 1: star tight and Luke has Lucas Excuse me, I'm watching 1748 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Armstrong as well, their wide receiver, to see what 1749 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,599 Speaker 1: he ends up doing. On the tech side, Tech lost 1750 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:53,439 Speaker 1: Zach Kittley, their offensive coordinator. He's now the head coach 1751 01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:57,680 Speaker 1: at Florida Atlantic, and they fired Tim Ruder, the defensive coordinator. 1752 01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea in this game. I have no 1753 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,719 Speaker 1: idea what to expect in this football game. 1754 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 2: I mean two very strong rushing attacks. Yes, I don't 1755 01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,479 Speaker 2: know about Alan Green dual threat. We'll see who's playing. 1756 01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see who's playing. I don't know if we're 1757 01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 1: gonna have like an opt out for Toaj Brooks. It's possibility. Hmm. 1758 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,879 Speaker 2: I like Arkansas here, I do too. Taylor Green announced 1759 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:29,280 Speaker 2: he's coming back, right, It's correct, yep, two very volatile 1760 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,320 Speaker 2: teams this year. But if TAJ Brooks is a maybe 1761 01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:36,519 Speaker 2: in this one, I think I lean Arkansas. So is 1762 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,559 Speaker 2: there a bul bingo item to be had here? 1763 01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 1: I just I think the thing I'd like to play 1764 01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:48,160 Speaker 1: into is max chaos. Okay, so can we do something 1765 01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,800 Speaker 1: like total points in the game, maybe, just like in 1766 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 1: a classic over under or how if you really truly 1767 01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,040 Speaker 1: believe this game is chaotic? I believe this is max chaotic. 1768 01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So why don't we do number of lead changes 1769 01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:01,080 Speaker 2: in this game? 1770 01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,920 Speaker 1: Oh? Ten and a half? Ten and a half is 1771 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,160 Speaker 1: a lot, It's like a seven and a half. Come on, 1772 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,640 Speaker 1: that's way too many. Ten and a half is like 1773 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,320 Speaker 1: a basketball game, dude, No, that's not. If it's back 1774 01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:15,880 Speaker 1: and forth in a football game. 1775 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:20,120 Speaker 2: No way, Okay, five and a half, four and a 1776 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:24,479 Speaker 2: half negative seventeen, ty, give me an indicator of where 1777 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:25,080 Speaker 2: your brain is. 1778 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,559 Speaker 1: We'll do five lead changes. 1779 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,280 Speaker 2: So is that four and a half or five and 1780 01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 2: a half. 1781 01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,679 Speaker 1: More than four five and a half? 1782 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,640 Speaker 2: Okay, five and a half lead changes? Lead changes in 1783 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,960 Speaker 2: this specific game? Yeah, less than five and a half 1784 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:40,759 Speaker 2: lead changes? 1785 01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,320 Speaker 1: Oh? I like this, Dan, this is good. 1786 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,280 Speaker 2: Hold on, can we define lead changes though? Does the 1787 01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 2: first score count as a lead change? Like, if a 1788 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,760 Speaker 2: team goes up from zero zero to three zero, is 1789 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:51,920 Speaker 2: that a lead change. 1790 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,559 Speaker 1: I think that's just a lead that's just a start. 1791 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so excluding the first score, yeah, excluding the 1792 01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 2: first score shifts in lead change. 1793 01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,960 Speaker 1: That's right. Okay. I just want to be clear. I 1794 01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:08,720 Speaker 1: forgot about the trophy here. What do you think the 1795 01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:14,040 Speaker 1: trophy is for the autozoned Liberty Bowl A muffler. This 1796 01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:15,880 Speaker 1: is one of the oldest bowls, been around since about 1797 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:20,640 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine. This is Memphis to Memphis, but this 1798 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:25,360 Speaker 1: is the giveaway. It was started originally in Philadelphia Memorial Stadium. Oh, 1799 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,040 Speaker 1: it's the Liberty be sell the bell. It's the bell. Yeah, 1800 01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,880 Speaker 1: and interestingly enough, the bell is cast right down the 1801 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,760 Speaker 1: road in Sellersville, Pennsylvania, place I know extremely well and 1802 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,360 Speaker 1: have very strong family ties. I could go down there 1803 01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:39,920 Speaker 1: and watch them make this thing if I really wanted. 1804 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,280 Speaker 2: Well, hold on, they made the trophy or they made 1805 01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:44,400 Speaker 2: the actual letter bell. 1806 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 1: They make a authentic to scale quarter sized Liberty bell 1807 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 1: and that's the trophy. Okay, so they didn't know. They 1808 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,439 Speaker 1: didn't make the actual Liberty bell, but they're making like 1809 01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,439 Speaker 1: if you go on the website, they talk about the 1810 01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:03,080 Speaker 1: craftsmanship that this place you know, puts into building this trophy. 1811 01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,200 Speaker 1: There's a story here. They put a lot of heart 1812 01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,400 Speaker 1: and soul into it. It's an authentic like replica of 1813 01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,120 Speaker 1: Liberty Bill, but it's shrunken down to a quarter of 1814 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:12,639 Speaker 1: the size. 1815 01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:17,400 Speaker 2: Am I saying this right? It's Penridge High in the Sellersville. 1816 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,280 Speaker 1: Penridg Yep, that's correct. How do we feel about Penridge High? 1817 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:21,760 Speaker 1: I had a pretty good football team this year from 1818 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:22,439 Speaker 1: what I understand. 1819 01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,800 Speaker 2: Okay, well there you go. Yeah, that's all I need 1820 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:25,040 Speaker 2: to know. 1821 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 1: Friday twelve, twenty seven, eight pm Direct TV Holiday Bowl. 1822 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,120 Speaker 1: Holiday Bowl is usually kind of weird, isn't it? Kind 1823 01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,479 Speaker 1: of fun? Usually good match, it's traditionally pretty fun and weird. Yes, 1824 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,400 Speaker 1: Syracuse nine to three, Wazoo eight and four. This year 1825 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,200 Speaker 1: we got a cylindrical football atop a slotted cylindrical or 1826 01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:46,800 Speaker 1: excuse me, a silver football a top a slotted cylindrical 1827 01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,880 Speaker 1: pedestal for a great bowl game. And I want to 1828 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 1: spend a little more cash on the trophy. 1829 01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 2: It's also San Diego, so you have like the Navy 1830 01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,320 Speaker 2: presence you have, I mean, SeaWorld sucks, but you have 1831 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:03,400 Speaker 2: ocean life available. Yeah, man beach culture, Yeah, Mexican food. 1832 01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:05,719 Speaker 1: Put a golden taco up there, come on. 1833 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,760 Speaker 2: I agree, or even a golden satellite dish or a 1834 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,800 Speaker 2: reef or a point setia something to like. 1835 01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:17,200 Speaker 1: Speak to a sponsor or the name of the nothing Hollo. 1836 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:19,679 Speaker 1: So fun. It's one of my favorite things about college 1837 01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,439 Speaker 1: football is the holiday. I have so many good memories 1838 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,120 Speaker 1: down in San Diego. Was was this the game that 1839 01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:25,280 Speaker 1: was flooded out that one year? 1840 01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,800 Speaker 2: That may have been the San Diego County Credit Union 1841 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,160 Speaker 2: point Sedia boot Okay, but. 1842 01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,280 Speaker 1: It was at the stadium. It was at whatever it is, 1843 01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:38,800 Speaker 1: Qualcom whatever they call it now. Yeah, and that was 1844 01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,759 Speaker 1: a Navy game. I remember enjoying that the United States 1845 01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,080 Speaker 1: Navy was playing in a flooded Bowl game, and that 1846 01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 1: might have been the year that had wave Rider on 1847 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,880 Speaker 1: the team too, if memory serves. 1848 01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:49,960 Speaker 2: That's at all computes for me. 1849 01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you catch what the f animal had to 1850 01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,280 Speaker 1: say about this game? No? They asked the f animal 1851 01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,400 Speaker 1: Fran Brown, Syracuse coach, whether any of his guys were 1852 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,800 Speaker 1: going to opt out. Quote, we don't opt out around here? 1853 01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:05,120 Speaker 1: Do they have any opt outs? They don't, not that 1854 01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:08,120 Speaker 1: I could subsequently, No, not that I could see. I mean, 1855 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,680 Speaker 1: not really anybody of substance. Wazu does have a few 1856 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,280 Speaker 1: guys in the portal, the big one. We're waiting on 1857 01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:17,920 Speaker 1: his Jommetir and Wazoo is supposedly trying. 1858 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,719 Speaker 2: To think there's some other schools waiting on John Matier 1859 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:20,120 Speaker 2: as well. 1860 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:21,800 Speaker 1: There are, there are. He's a good player, he's an 1861 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:25,280 Speaker 1: exciting prospect. Wazuo is trying to put something together to 1862 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,479 Speaker 1: keep him in pullman. I hope they can do it, 1863 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 1: but unclear at this point if that's yay or nay. 1864 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,280 Speaker 1: That's been going on for a couple of days. I'm 1865 01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,160 Speaker 1: on Qus here. I think Q's is the better team. 1866 01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,200 Speaker 1: I think this could also be backs chaos, but that's 1867 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:43,360 Speaker 1: pretty dependent on John Mateer playing. Vibes are good. 1868 01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:47,080 Speaker 2: Travel is extensive, but I will say to even enhance 1869 01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,840 Speaker 2: the vibes. It's not warm in Pullman, Washington right now, 1870 01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,160 Speaker 2: twenty seven degrees currently in Syracuse, New York with perhaps 1871 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,519 Speaker 2: another foot of lake effects snow coming. Oh Man, and 1872 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,720 Speaker 2: you've got San Diego on the horizon. 1873 01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm going good vie here. I got Kyle McCord over 1874 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:07,679 Speaker 1: under over three and a half touchdown passes for one bet, 1875 01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:12,760 Speaker 1: and we should go Wazu money line on the other one. 1876 01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,800 Speaker 1: Wazu money line. Yeah, what is the money line? It's 1877 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,639 Speaker 1: just picking Wazu outright. Oh okay, So either picking Wazu 1878 01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:25,559 Speaker 1: outright or one of your other options. Here is Kyle 1879 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:27,760 Speaker 1: McCord over three and a half touchdown passes. 1880 01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,479 Speaker 2: Gotcha okay, and Wazuo down there starting like very good 1881 01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:36,479 Speaker 2: freshman running back. That's right way, Shaun Parker. Yeah, final game, Dan, 1882 01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:42,240 Speaker 2: we made it man full way through Friday, December twenty seventh, ten. 1883 01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,720 Speaker 1: This is the Las Vegas Bowl. This is Texas A 1884 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,800 Speaker 1: and M, this is USC and. 1885 01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:51,880 Speaker 2: This is no longer at Sam Boyd Stadium. It's in 1886 01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:53,040 Speaker 2: like Allegiance State. 1887 01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:58,720 Speaker 1: It's an Allegiant stadium. Ah, so this is Texas A 1888 01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 1: and m USC the SRS distribution Las Vegas Bowl. Correct. 1889 01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,800 Speaker 2: So this is typically like an old PAC twelve team 1890 01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,519 Speaker 2: that's disappointed to be there, losing to an excited Mountain 1891 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:11,120 Speaker 2: West team. 1892 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:15,679 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, But that's not the case this year. USC, 1893 01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:20,280 Speaker 1: A and m USC down key contributors. Down key contributors. 1894 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,320 Speaker 1: I think the portal A and M could have opt 1895 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:27,200 Speaker 1: outs from Nick Gorton, Shamar Stewart, maybe some others. Right, obviously, 1896 01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:33,240 Speaker 1: Conor Wigman already transferred out. I still think A and 1897 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:35,479 Speaker 1: M's the better team, though I'm going to go with 1898 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:36,840 Speaker 1: A and M as well. I still think A and 1899 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:40,000 Speaker 1: M is the better team. This is a white bejeweled football. 1900 01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:42,920 Speaker 1: It's held up by like three curved prongs. D and 1901 01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,600 Speaker 1: more colorful, I would say than most. I think it 1902 01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,080 Speaker 1: takes inspiration from a slot machine. I don't hate it. 1903 01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,280 Speaker 1: There was at least some effort here. I feel like vibes. Yeah, 1904 01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:54,840 Speaker 1: I feel like this is a trophy that should light 1905 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,720 Speaker 1: up like you're in Vegas. Do something crazy. They have 1906 01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,000 Speaker 1: lasers coming out of it or something something nuts up. 1907 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,000 Speaker 1: So there. There's room to grow here. But it's not 1908 01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,240 Speaker 1: This is not the Myrtle Beach Bowl. It's not the 1909 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,880 Speaker 1: Sixty Adventures Bowl. This is okay, we need a bet 1910 01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,840 Speaker 1: here for this. M. 1911 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,200 Speaker 2: A and M is down two quarterbacks, right, it's also 1912 01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:19,640 Speaker 2: Jalen Henderson's done for A and M in addition to 1913 01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 2: Connor Wagman. 1914 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:24,920 Speaker 1: I believe. So I'm gonna say, is there something that 1915 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,840 Speaker 1: we can do in this game like a USC blown 1916 01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:29,000 Speaker 1: fourth quarter lead? 1917 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go USC blows fourth quarter lead? 1918 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:34,640 Speaker 1: All right, So look, we're going to add more to 1919 01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,920 Speaker 1: this bingo card. This is not the total list of bets, 1920 01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,120 Speaker 1: but you've got how well people have to choose. People 1921 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,759 Speaker 1: will have to choose I believe six okay, six items, 1922 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:46,519 Speaker 1: six of these that you think are going to hit. 1923 01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,080 Speaker 1: And we will give you more details on the prize 1924 01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,679 Speaker 1: for the first week as well as the overall prize. 1925 01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:53,760 Speaker 1: We're working on that right now. 1926 01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:58,280 Speaker 2: What happens if we have a tie like five, there's 1927 01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:01,200 Speaker 2: a tie breaker? I don't there will be tiebreakers time record? Yeah, absolutely, 1928 01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:03,960 Speaker 2: all right, that does it. 1929 01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,639 Speaker 1: Dan. This is a very long show, much longer than usual. 1930 01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:07,240 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1931 01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,240 Speaker 2: We're giving away, we're giving away a crystal bowl. Crystal No, 1932 01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:12,439 Speaker 2: we're not one. No, we're not. 1933 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,320 Speaker 1: I will custom design a trophy for the This is 1934 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,840 Speaker 1: what Actually, this is exactly what we're going to do. Okay. 1935 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:21,200 Speaker 1: I will custom design a trophy that we will send 1936 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:25,240 Speaker 1: you that will be worth it, that you can put 1937 01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,680 Speaker 1: in your in your home somewhere, maybe behind you if 1938 01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 1: you work from home, and if you got like a 1939 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,280 Speaker 1: zoom setup or something. I will make a custom trophy 1940 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,400 Speaker 1: that I think is befitting of this regal contest that 1941 01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:37,400 Speaker 1: we're calling Bulbingo. 1942 01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:41,600 Speaker 2: Okay, would you go as far as saying statement piece? Oh, absolutely, 1943 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,400 Speaker 2: conversation piece. This is an heirloom, Dan, what are we 1944 01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 2: talking about. You're going to pass this down to generations 1945 01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:47,240 Speaker 2: to come. 1946 01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,240 Speaker 1: A little Tommy in the year of our Lord twenty 1947 01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred is going to have this thing and he's 1948 01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:56,280 Speaker 1: going to tell stories about you winning it. Yeah. I'm 1949 01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,200 Speaker 1: building this myself. I will need some design input from you, 1950 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,840 Speaker 1: though design is not my thing. You know this, but 1951 01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,320 Speaker 1: I know a good design when I see it, and 1952 01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:06,800 Speaker 1: I think that's what's most important. Okay. It will not 1953 01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,639 Speaker 1: be a golden football atop of pedestal, nor a glass 1954 01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:13,559 Speaker 1: bowl or no uh the sixty eight Ventures Crystal Shrimp 1955 01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:22,000 Speaker 1: Cocktail Bowl. Right, Okay, okay, all right, who long episode? 1956 01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,640 Speaker 1: Thank you one, Thank you all. Hope this was informative. 1957 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,320 Speaker 1: Hope this was enjoyable. Playball todays people are traveling. 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Hope to see you there. 1976 01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,519 Speaker 1: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 1977 01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:26,679 Speaker 1: for myself Tye Hildebrand. Thank you so much. As always, 1978 01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,679 Speaker 1: you know the drill, Stay solid. Peace,