1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: This is a headgun Podcastle book Club. I thought a fun, 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: super just fun way to loosen us up was just 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: for us all. This could be a cold open, or 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: maybe it will be so bad and we'll get put 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: in the trash, but for us to just all sing 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: scar tissue and just see what happens, that's a really yeah, 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: that's a fun idea. Just like y'all expect me to 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: harmonize on this too. I mean, I have a horrible singer, 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: so I think let's just see it's just that a wish, 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: so that a mist ship missing against the wall. Okay, 11 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: that makes sense because there's a lot of tits in 12 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: this book. Who's that knocking at the door. It's all 13 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: your friends, your filthy horror, your husband's gone, and we've 14 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: got books and a bottle of wine to kill. It's books, 15 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: it's gossip. I'm shook, it's memoir. It's more Teeny book 16 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Club can read it while it's hot. Celebrity book Club, 17 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys 18 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: are alloud. Celebrity book Club say it loud and cloud 19 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club. Buzz man I brought the queer Voe 20 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Hey best friend. What's up, you badass bitch. What's up, dude? 21 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: How are you doing right now? I don't know. Man, 22 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm coming off a six week high of just doing 23 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: it n of heroine and coke and speed with some 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: pretty awesome girlfriends in some pretty cool motels. So yeah, 25 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm feel a little crazy. Yeah. I actually just tried 26 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: heroin for the first time, and I had heroin sex 27 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: for the first time. And man, I will tell you 28 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: I had sex for twelve hours and didn't even come 29 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: till the eleventh hour. Oh that's so fucking cool when 30 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: you just don't come for ten hours. That's one of 31 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: my favorite parts about mixing drugs and sex. Of course, 32 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: we are being crazy drug addicts and making fun of addiction, 33 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: which I takes a serious issue. Because we read a 34 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: phenomenal memoir this week by a phenomenal rock and roll poet, rapper, 35 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: artist fucking spirit, Anthony Keatis, lead singer with the Red 36 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: Hot Shelie Peppers, and his book Scar Tissue, And so 37 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: of course, when you do a rock book by an 38 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: iconic rocker, you think we need to get a rock 39 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: and roll chick to come on the I mean, someone 40 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: who knows what it means to be in the East Village. Yeah, 41 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: maybe the Lowries Village, so I may say alphabets City 42 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: East Village. No, I fucking love the lorist. Someone who 43 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: rock saw some vintage T shirts? Yeah, I don't know. 44 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: Someone whose favorite letters of the alphabet are CBGB anyone 45 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: and just getting an also all around hilarious chick, because 46 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: this podcast isn't just about rock music, it's about comedy. Yeah, 47 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: you probably think of us as like just like ultimate 48 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: rockers who are always like storing coke and like shooting 49 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: coke and fucking but we also fucking loves to gag 50 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: each other up and do improv And there's nothing more 51 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: fucking rock and roll than improv. And that's why we're 52 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: so excited to have all around badass downtown writer, videographer, choreographer, chick, 53 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: actress Impressiario the Impressionists, Impressions La Video. Also fellow Italian American. 54 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, another Italian American from Upstate 55 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: New York who is not Kelly Catrone. Wow, that's me 56 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: feeling a little laughed out. He bullied, Well, I'm actually 57 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: not from Upstate New York. Well, but my mother now 58 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: lives in Upstate New York. So anyway, I grew up 59 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: in she did grew up in upstate York. You know what, 60 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: the let's out. End of details. Basically, two pisons are 61 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: on the pod right now. Thank you so much, Lauren 62 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: for coming on this little dirty, dirty room. Thank you 63 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: for having me. And I'm sorry I really pushed for this, 64 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: um realizing that it was almost five hundred pages, but 65 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: not fully realizing that it was almost five hundred pages. 66 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, was this the longest one you 67 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: guys have read? Or well, funny enough, we're actually you're 68 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: actually kind of keeping us going in this kind of 69 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: like hardcore like you're like this like rock and Roll 70 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: mentored us because we read a few weeks ago Ulyssis 71 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: Grants Personal Memoirs, which also clocked in around five hundred 72 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: and fifty pages. Yes, this is actually shorter than Grants, 73 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: and I will say this was a quicker read than Grants. Yes, 74 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Grants is a slog emotionally and physically because it's mostly 75 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: about true movements in the eighteen sixteen and this is 76 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: like more of a page. This is more of a 77 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: page shorter and just like there are there's no tits 78 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: in Grants Book. Well, I was gonna say, there's no 79 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: salacious details about anyone, like who did he hang out with? 80 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: Was there even anyone from the rowing? I don't even 81 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: know when he was alive, Like I just found out 82 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: that Bret Easton Ellis was alive. I thought he died. Like, 83 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: go ask me who's alive and who's dead? I mean, 84 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: there were parts of the Grand Book where I was 85 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: just being like, wait, so who does he know that 86 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: we know? What are our mutuals on friends Star? But yeah, 87 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: this Keytest Book obviously is a podge turner and there's 88 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: a lot of juice, and I feel like it is 89 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: thank you for suggesting this because it is iconic rock 90 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: memoir and I randomly feel like we haven't done a 91 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: male rock star. Yeah, even though that seems crazy to say, well, 92 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: we've done Steve Aoky, But is he a rock star 93 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: or just a mega awesome DJ? Okay, Well, the DJ 94 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: racer and the sort of a racial musicality that's required 95 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: to be a DJ is really apparent in that statement, 96 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: but I guess I'll let it slide. Okay, Yeah, I 97 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: am sorry to our DJ's Okay, Lauren, are you a 98 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: red hot? Are you a pepper? Am I a pepper? 99 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: Am I a pepper keeper? I M not hugely, but 100 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the summer, my boyfriend Emerson was 101 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: playing them a bunch. We both work from home or 102 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm like a layabout from home and he actually works 103 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: from home, and he was saying he just started playing 104 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: them a bunch, and I was like, what's what's going 105 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: on with this? Like why this? Why now? And he 106 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: was like, this is going to be a red hot 107 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: chili pepper summer. And no sooner did he say that did. 108 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I go to my grandfather's house and I had a 109 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: relative who lived with him for a bit who is 110 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: a former addict, who had like a bunch of who 111 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: McKenzie phillips. It was like every user memoir, do you 112 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like every former addict memoir on 113 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: her bookshelf. And then this one stuck out to me 114 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, huh, maybe this is the chili 115 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: pepper summer. And I was going to find an excuse 116 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: to read it anyway. And then that's that is, as 117 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: we say in the pod, that is an example of 118 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: spirit being present because you were introduced to the concept 119 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: of the RHC piece summer and then all of a sudden, 120 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: you see this book walked into your life. Yeah, it's 121 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: sort of like in the book where later he talks 122 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: about addicts are always interested in seeing all of these 123 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: like different you know, they have spirits come to them. 124 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: It's like an animal will show up when you need it. 125 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: Most oh, sort of thing which happened in Hunter Biden's book, 126 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: which is another attic memoir we read, But an owl 127 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: comes to him as he's driving to this like rehab 128 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: center in Arizona. I do now, I'm just a theory 129 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: is coming to me about animals and addicts. Is it 130 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: also this thing because a lot of rehabs are in 131 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: the desert and then you just do see like lizards 132 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, there's a big nature overlap because 133 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: I know there's a ton of rehab I mean, Florida 134 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: has a huge rehab program where people just who are 135 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: at their wits end of course, like ship their relatives 136 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: off there. It's just like factory of addicts and rehabilitated 137 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: people down there, and Florida's filled with like lizards and 138 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: mangoes and like all that shit. So I get it. Yeah, 139 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: I think your mangoes live mangoes gaiters not jump to 140 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: literally the last sentence of the book, but since we're 141 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: on the subject of animals, um, I'll just read it. 142 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is such an amazing sentence 143 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: to end the book. Well it's not, okay, sorry, do 144 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: you mind anyway? He's yeah, he's sober, and he's coming 145 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: to a new realization that you can't like just ignore 146 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: your wants for drugs and just kind of more live 147 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: in wanting the addiction. And then he says, I just 148 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: look over at my dog, and remember that Buster has 149 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: never seen me high mic drop listener. That is, those 150 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: are the last words of the h I was like, one, Buster, Yeah, 151 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: are we just going with that basic of a dog name? 152 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: But it was after Buster Keaton, one of his favorite comedians. Okay, 153 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: old timey, yeah, thank you, Okay, yeah, he's older. Then 154 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: I realized one thing that this book was kind of 155 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: surprising to me was it was a lot of it 156 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: was taking place in the eighties, and I was like, oh, 157 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: I guess they really got their start a little bit 158 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: earlier than I realized. Because so I will just say, 159 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: right after the bout my relationship with retent chili Peppers, 160 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: had a very intimate turn in high school. I listened 161 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: to Californication a lot. I bought it on CD at 162 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: Newbury Comics, and I would listen to it on my 163 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: computer in ninth grade while I secretly masturbated and what 164 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: to me? And this was back before there was porn videos. 165 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: Porn was just photos, so Californication was your porn. The 166 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: audio and I would look at just like photo these 167 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: like galleries. It would be like a thirty image gallery 168 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: of just like two Dutch guys, and I would like 169 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: go through all the pictures while listening to like Other 170 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: Side or Scar Tissue, and I would put on this 171 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: album because I guess the album was to me was 172 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: so like masculine that I was like, it almost counteracted 173 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: the faggotry of looking at gay porn. I was like, Oh, 174 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: it's not I don't have to feel as like guilty 175 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: about looking at gay porn if I'm listening to this 176 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: like Badass Rocks. I was shocked. There were little to 177 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: no mentions, no mentions of any sort of like opposite 178 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: sex interaction. I guess. I mean, we know pretty famously 179 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: outside of this book that he's like a womanizer. But 180 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: I was a little curious because you know, they'd go 181 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: out on the stage with their dicks and their socks. Sorry, 182 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: I was like trying to fay. I was like, do 183 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: I go like anatoma their penises inside of their socks? Yeah? Yeah, 184 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: I just figured something and there wasn't anything. At least. 185 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: There's the one kiss with David Navarro in that video 186 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: and he was just like and Dave was like, yea, 187 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kiss you, and he's like, yeah, man, okay, sure, 188 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: and to my surprise, it was a total open mouth 189 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: kiss and I was I didn't care either way. He's 190 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: like so weird about it, and then he's like and 191 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: then the record execs didn't like it. So that's what 192 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: I knew that it was awesome in punk rock and 193 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: we had to keep it in the video, right, and 194 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: they like fucking fought Warner Brothers on it, and it's 195 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: like but only this way of like right being and 196 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: he was just like, yeah, we lost some frat boyfriends 197 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: who called us to fag it, and we kind of 198 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: talked about it and they were like maybe felt regret 199 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: about it, but ultimately like we went forward and you 200 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: were kind of like, it sounds like it was kind 201 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: of a big deal to have this. Guess yeah, it 202 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: sounds like maybe you were a little nervous. And I 203 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: also thought it was interesting was every other book we 204 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: read that takes place in the eighties, Like there's a 205 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: lot of just like people's friends dying of aids, and 206 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: it's just like, there's definitely no, they're not having any 207 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: friends dynavade. So I just don't think that they were 208 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: hanging out with gay people very much, which is totally fine. 209 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: Not everyone has well there are someone there are some 210 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: by checks, some bye checks in the book on Sky 211 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: Reveal where he like had this sexual encounter later with 212 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: the girl who was in the relationship. Wait, let me 213 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: get this right, right, Yeah, so you get you say it. 214 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: I know I'm scared in my screwup, but just that 215 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: it was like the ex girlfriend of his ex girlfriend 216 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: was the net ye, Like it was like her suits 217 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: Cavia way to bury the fucking lead dude, Like, oh 218 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: my god, we've all been dying to know. I like, 219 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: I would have loved to have known that so much 220 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: earlier that she was by or just oh, I know, 221 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: it's like, let's go back two hundred pages and be 222 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: like because so he dates I owns guy who's Donovan's daughter, 223 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: and she's sixteen when they start dating. Yeah that's gonna be. 224 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: Is that gonna this book is fourteen? I have this dog, 225 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: I have this dog here to shit And ninety percent 226 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: of these flags right here are like actual literal red 227 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: flags of like he's let's just say this is a 228 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: very pre twenty seventeen book. Yeah, this is an sumremely 229 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and three book. And they're like, it's I 230 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: don't know. It starts out and there like and he 231 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: is like eleven and just like having so much sex 232 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: and doing so much drugs and like his childhood commute insane. 233 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: But then at a certain point you're like, aren't you 234 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: in your twenties now? And he's like, man, like this 235 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: girl was fifteen, but wow, she was really mature, and 236 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: you're like waiting because like hits were so fucking fluffy 237 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: or yeah, yeah, like Lauren, will you give us a 238 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: fire rapid rundown of all your red flags, like every 239 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: single thing in here? Some some of them you know, 240 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: you're famil One was how a stepmom made him go 241 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: to church five times a day or a week or 242 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: something that I thought was insane five times during the 243 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: week and three times on Sunday. Three times. I was like, 244 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: if you're going three times on Sunday, what do you 245 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: are you just leaving for lunch and then going back right, 246 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: we have like an eight thirty and nine thirty and 247 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: then a a midnight. I mean, his virginity last story 248 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: is in sane insane how he just asked. He passes 249 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: his dad a note whether her at like the Rainbow 250 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: Room on Hollywood Boulevard. He's eleven years old. He passes 251 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: and likes doing coke with his dad every day. Passes 252 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: dad a note saying, I'm really into Kimberly. Can I 253 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: try having sex with her? And the dad is like, okay, 254 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: son And then they go back to their house and 255 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: like puts him in a room with Kimberly, and he 256 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: was like, and my dad was a little too close. 257 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: Like looking back on it, yeah, he's like he's a 258 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: little too It's like sod was in that room slutely watching. 259 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: I got the vibe from that page. There's a lot 260 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: missing from this, including the fact that pretty early on 261 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, Sonny and Chair were like surrogate parents 262 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: to me, sort of like ubiquitous experience of every kid 263 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: that grows up in LA that there's like and think 264 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: about it too, because he's so old at the time. 265 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: That would have been like if I don't know, Lady 266 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: Gaga was babysitting you in two thousand and nine, do 267 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean that you can't exactly would 268 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: have passed their prime. They were on the Sunny and 269 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: Share show, like hell it was and he's like, yeah, 270 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: so it was like so at this time I was 271 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: hanging out. It's at Sonny's mansionne and he's like, so, Sharon, Also, Sonny, 272 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: you are already broken up. Sonny is with his dad's 273 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: ex at this point and when then and You're like, 274 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: Share is He's just watching Share like change in her 275 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: bathroom and just being like, damn. She had this slinky, 276 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: slanky body and I was watching her and then she 277 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: crawled into the bed with me and she was nude 278 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: and it was an erotic experience. But Sharon, I didn't 279 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: hook up when I was eight. Go bad for Share though, 280 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: because so much of the like, I feel like, there 281 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: was like a rumor that when this book got published 282 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: that it was Share that slept with him that took 283 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: his virginity because people know there's just so much and 284 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: so many fucked up instances in this book that it 285 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: got turned into share sleeping with him, which is not 286 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: true at all. That did not happen. I mean physically 287 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: they were like in the same room, but like she 288 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: did not take his virginity. And I got the vibe 289 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: that share was in maybe a slip of silk pg 290 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: and not fully nude. Okay, don't you think that share 291 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: is so sleeps nude and it's just so like Darling 292 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I just a woman's sleep roll. Yeah, like Maybecially back 293 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: then she was I think she was so oh natural 294 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: in the seventies and yeah, you think she was trying 295 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: to make a point about just like oh she was 296 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: so German public in her sexuality. Just like men and 297 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: children can be naked in a park together, it is 298 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: not sexual. Okay. Also his dad, he's like, my dad 299 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: had such an amazing manicured cokenail. But then I was like, dad, 300 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: why is your other fingernail so short? And he was like, 301 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: so it's ready to go inside the ladies away like 302 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: his cokenail, his fingering, his pussy finger, and then his 303 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: coke finger. I mean that did make me think about 304 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: the fact that, like, you can totally tell if a 305 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: gay hasn't been topping very much because then his nails 306 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: are long. Well, that's also very like a classic like 307 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: nineties gaitar, like how to tell if a woman's a lesbian, right, 308 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: check out her fingernails. But I think it's more I 309 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: guess I'm thinking any more on the top bottom were 310 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm just like, you can't have long finger nails and 311 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: like just not be fingering but still be into chicks 312 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: and right, you can be Ionn Sky and like Kim 313 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: and Right, and they're just like they're just like their 314 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: fans are always just like up when they're having sex, 315 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: like not like I don't know honestly that I owned 316 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm gonna say it. I think I owned 317 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: Sky and what's her name? I think they had some 318 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: wild bio sex. Yeah, Lisa, I was thinking about that action. Okay, 319 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: another celeb moment. Been talking about him and Channade. So 320 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: in Channade's books, so this is like such a our 321 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: podcast crossover. So we read Chanade's book and she says 322 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: she doesn't remember, she doesn't remember anything. I bet she 323 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: doesn't remember this at all. I mean, she also did 324 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: fully have just like a mental break mental she also 325 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: she had like a like a well she didn't actually 326 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: have what's it called electric chalk therapy, but like I 327 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: get the vibe that was by a train. Yeah, I 328 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: feel like Anthony does have a pretty good memory for chicks. Yeah, 329 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: well she got hit by her head got clipped by 330 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: a train when she was like nine. She thinks she's 331 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: always maybe had great damage from that, and it's like 332 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: really weird, Oh my god. But he has a pretty 333 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: like specific story that's also not really disparaging to anyone. 334 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of just like I do believe his 335 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: not to believe men um, but yeah, I'm there's nothing 336 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: in it that's very just like unbelievable. It's just like, yeah, 337 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: party stories. Yeah, he was like, we hung out a 338 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: few times. She wanted nothing to do with me, really, 339 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: she really it didn't seem like anything happened. But they 340 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: drove around a few times and then she was never 341 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: interested and then he was all but her and and 342 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: they did kiss. I think they kissed like made out once, 343 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: and then he was he wrote her that letter at 344 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: a show and since she was like and she was 345 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: like I kept it in my kitchen rol I don't know, 346 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: I kept yeah, and he's and he's like, damn you 347 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: kept it. And Joelsh she's and she's like a letter 348 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: like that, you don't throw away. I'm put it in 349 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: my lucky charms, boss, because the letter was just like 350 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: you're amazing and like I'm obsessed with you. Well, and 351 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: also it like corroborates. Is that the right word because 352 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: in hell yeah, in her she's like, oh yeah, I 353 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: fucked Peter Gabriel and I was like amazing friends with 354 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: Daniel day Lewis and he mentions both those yall with 355 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: her right, and she had taken Daniel deal it was 356 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: the Oscars instead of him. And then she like popped 357 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: out of a limo with Peter Gabriel and it gave 358 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: him this weird kind of like fake and they both 359 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: like fake small at each other, and he said it 360 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: was really sad. Yeah, awkward. It sounds so realistic. Yeah, 361 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: him just being like long hair and like being like 362 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: what's oh chinade And she's like, okay, I'm actually with 363 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: this different long hair and gentlemen, and Peter Grabriel is 364 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: still like cheesy, I think of I don't know It's 365 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: like I actually would think Channaide would want to hook 366 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: up with Antony keetas more than Peter Gabriel, But maybe 367 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: I guess not. I don't what else I'm now. I'm 368 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: curious about her memoir because I loved that piece on 369 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: her that wasn't like the New York Times or whatever. 370 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: I'm completely insane. It's coming highly yeah, um hell it's 371 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: it's really well. I mean, she is also like such 372 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: a punk badass, and she was becoming famous at the 373 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: same time that they were, and she was also just 374 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: like fuck corporations and like fuck the industry. But she 375 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: was more I would say, like true to her fuck 376 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: the industry ethos than they are. They're still being a 377 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: little bit more like we want the deal. Fuck yeah, 378 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: like let's make this money and like do a bunch 379 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: of drugs and like yeah, where did they go to 380 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: like the North Pole with like michelobe light or whatever? 381 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: So let me get it. There's there's just sometimes I 382 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: mean would yeah. The thing is you could tell like 383 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: they loved living lavishly, like they jumped from being these 384 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: super poor, like squatter kids that grew up with next 385 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: to nothing and then he didn't know what kind of 386 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, would to import from Thailand for his custom 387 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: like thirty six twenty four, thirty six fireplace dimensions that 388 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: you're like, you don't just like, especially in the nineties, 389 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: there's no Internet, like you have to be really worldly, 390 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: like you have to I don't know, you have to 391 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: call a Thai woodiest. Yeah, you know, dude, the dolly 392 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: Llama visit. This is the part toward the end of 393 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: the book. I gotta say, maybe you agree with me. 394 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: The whole book it is so clear that he lacks 395 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: self awareness, which okay, I mean he's a total rock star, 396 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: but I mean it's just like laughable the way he 397 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: just talks about women. At some point he's like, yeah, 398 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: it sucked. I was giving my mom like the hardest 399 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: time coming home for the fifteenth time to Michigan to 400 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: go to rehab, and you know, I'm sure that crushed her, 401 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: but you know Mom's are resili like yeah, like just nothing. 402 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: But then when he does the dolly Llama trip, and 403 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: it's like the dolly Llama was waiting maybe for Anthony 404 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: Keatis to get there was another thing that I was like, uh, 405 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: you know, do you know the part you know the 406 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: part well, you, um, I am listen. I don't exactly 407 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: remember this scene. I do remember the end being like 408 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: there I feel and I remember there's a point where 409 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: they start to get rich and famous and you do 410 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: start to see them like notice a little bit less 411 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: like what they're saying it like crazy childhood, and then 412 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: it's like drug sex, drug sex, and all of a sudden, 413 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: it's like and now we're spiritual and now like you're 414 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: shaking the hand with like your savior and he's been 415 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: like and I just wake up every day with so 416 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: much gratitude and so much macha and you're just like, 417 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: I guess, but like it's like now you're just like 418 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: so hawaii and just like yeah, beyond like eight hundred 419 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: matters as details about people, where I'm like, I feel 420 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: like you're not really noticing stuff in your life anymore 421 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: and you're just being kind of out of it, not caring. Also, 422 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: like when he starts like the part where he was 423 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: just like at this time, I was dating Sophia Coppola 424 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, what, yeah, I was like, and he 425 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: was like the amount of times He's also like she 426 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: was my favorite girlfriend, and I'm like, didn't you say that? 427 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: About just have a favorite girlfriend. I thought that that 428 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: would have really hurt my feelings. He actually he's someone 429 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: who picks favorites, like He'll be like, this was probably 430 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: the most enlightening sexual experience I've ever had with a woman. 431 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: This is my favorite girlfriend because she was found that 432 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: the most the girlfriend I was like the best of 433 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: friends with. And I was like, that would fucking hurt 434 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: if I was that girl I qualified for nothing, Like 435 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: if I put up with his misery and his bullshit 436 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: for all that time, that like I wouldn't at least 437 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: get a little like you know what, I appreciate you 438 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: get the favorite? Yeah, no fucking superlative, no nothing just 439 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: thrown out on the street. Could I read the part 440 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: about the time he has sex with a fat trick? 441 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Was so funny? Okay, but I do also want to 442 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: hear the Ali Lama party. But the fact let's let's 443 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: finish DOLLI Lama yeah, and then go back to col 444 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: And I gotta say, the only reason why I probably 445 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: remember it is because I had to quick finish this today, 446 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: I will say I thought I same very Copkily was like, yeah, 447 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: this is a memo I'm going to get through this 448 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: in like three seconds, because I do whenever it comes 449 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: to the memoir, I just Jessica Simpsons. That was ours 450 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: like when people would get the First Day Potter books 451 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: and I would they just devour it. It was like 452 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: Jessica's I was done before I even you know, the 453 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: writing in the Jessica Simpson book, it's like it's princh 454 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: is a little bit even bigger large, and it's bigger. 455 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't Yeah. I used to put like three spaces 456 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: after a period to make an essay longer in college, 457 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: just me. And then you're like, what if I instead 458 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: of double space? Will they notice if I do it 459 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: two point three two? Yeah? Wait? Can? I as a 460 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: crazy question? What was your major? It was journalism and 461 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: then I minored in women's studies at sunny freaking Albany 462 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: because I really wanted to work in like women's magazines, 463 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Oh for like Albany Women's Monthly. Yeah, I need to 464 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: go to the I need to go to the heart 465 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: of publishing, which is Albany. Yep. I was like, I 466 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: want to be the Helen Gurnie Brown of Albany. I 467 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: think that's how you say the Cosmopolitan like a way 468 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: like you wanted to write for Cosmo or like miss 469 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: or like Bitch Magazine. You wanted to beat Kate Hudson 470 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: and how to lose a guy in ten days, and 471 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: you're like demanding to your editor. You're like, actually, I 472 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: know I write about jewelry, but I want to write 473 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: about Afghanistan. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's exactly what it was. 474 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: It was around the time that like Rookie came to be. 475 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: There was that there wore renaissance and it was really 476 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: when tumbler feminism. Yeah, it was like it was the 477 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: true Tumbler feminism moment. And I was hugely oh like 478 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: a voyeur of that, and that deeply influenced me to 479 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: pursue that. Did I do that? Oh no? Did I 480 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: literally even touch a keyboard? As soon as I wrote no, 481 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: do I have? Absolutely not. We're sending you a keyboard 482 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: after okay, just a standalone big keyboard after this pod. 483 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you so much, thank you so much. 484 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: Just like Tom Hanks, You're welcome on us. Can I 485 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: read something that I dog haired or dog eared? Sorry 486 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: dogs m page one fifty eight. Um. One night I 487 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: ran into this girl from Nebraska. It was ironic because 488 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: Nebraska is a corn state, and she had pubic hair 489 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: that resembled the precise texture of corn silk. Oh yeah, 490 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: that stuck out, I remember. And he's like, I've seen 491 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: a lot of pubic hair my day, all sorts. But 492 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: and that next page, next page. The next day we 493 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: drove to Baton Rous and of course she came with us. 494 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: After we got off stage, she came up to me 495 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: and said, I have something to tell you. My father's 496 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: the chief of police, and the entire state of Louisiana 497 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: is looking for me because I've gone missing. Oh and 498 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: besides that, I'm only fourteen. Then the next sentence, I 499 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: wasn't incredibly scared fourteen fourteen year old. I'm also like, 500 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: you're publishing this book and being like, yeah, this fourteen 501 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: year old had corn silky pussy, which is reminding me. 502 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: I have so much corn at home that I need 503 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: to eat. And I'm just like almost I know. And 504 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: it's like my CSA, they keep in giving corn. They're 505 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of the corner. I'm like, how 506 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: many husks am I eating today? I couldn't If he 507 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: wasn't scared. I'm just like, if anyone's gonna murder you. 508 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: It's going to be the chief of police of Baton 509 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: Rouge for fucking his underrated daughter. Like literally, if anyone 510 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: would ever murder it was like, that is the person 511 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: who is going to murder you. But I think he 512 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: got that confidence from his father, who was such a 513 00:28:51,360 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: rebel rouser and a rebel rouser yeah Pett himself, little Pad. 514 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: That cycle did not get broken here, no, And it 515 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: was just like I'm sharing a fifteen year old with 516 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: my eleven year old son. Classic and then the dad 517 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: would never have The dad like gets mad every time 518 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: he asked his dad for one of his girlfriends. After that, 519 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: he was like, whoa, that was actually a one time thing. 520 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: That was your birthday present. Okay, that's not happening again. 521 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: Can you guys imagine writing a note to your dad 522 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: to be like can I fuck your girlfriend? Yeah? It's 523 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: got like backwards letters in it and shiite, I mean 524 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: it's like lemonades it with a backwards dead Yeah. Yeah. 525 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: Like what's fucked up is you should see Lily's handwritting 526 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: because it looks like it still looks like that, like 527 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: age thirty four, she hasn't gone past nine. It's still 528 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: really big and she has like a really bad way 529 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: of like figuring out how much how many letters need 530 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: to go on the line, so she's always running out 531 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: by the end of the word. Birthday cards are always 532 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: like to me, it's always that straight line and then 533 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: full right down. I went to the shittiest public school ever, 534 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: and it was like, if you missed it one day 535 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: shit like handwriting, you would be like out, like there 536 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: was nothing they could do to make up for it. 537 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: Like if you, like I missed one day of fractions 538 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: and I still can't figure that shit out. They just 539 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: never went back. They were like, I just never I 540 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: never got what a third is. I still can't read 541 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: an analog clock quickly miss that day. It's so unfortunate. 542 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: It's so sad. So I'm with you on the handwrite anything, 543 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: like I get it. That's fun though. You know your 544 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: life has some mystery. You go over you're in London, 545 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: you take a peek at Big Ben and you're like, 546 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what fucking time it is. I feel 547 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: like I actually, I was just thinking about that the 548 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: other day and I was, Wow, that's funny. I was 549 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: just thinking about Big Ben this morning. I'll tell you 550 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: why I'm going overseas for like the first time, and 551 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, they go on the twenty four 552 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: hour system, what other clocks look like. I really hadn't 553 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: thought about it. I revealing that here very publicly, but 554 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: it was like an early morning thought. I was like, no, 555 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: but big ben, No, that's like twelve, there's two hands, like. 556 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: I really was like breaking that shit down like a 557 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: You were like, maybe it's just a bigger circle. Yeah, 558 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: that's why such a big clock. Well, okay, I'm with you. 559 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: I was trying to make a RESI or strong to 560 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: the other day and the time was in Army Europe time, sure, 561 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, um, excuse me, military time Google. Damn. Yeah, 562 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: I should have gone to open table and I was 563 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: like yeah, And I was like I can't do this. 564 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: So I closed the window and went to another site 565 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: because I was like, I just can't do the math here. 566 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: Leave it on military time and start asking for the 567 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: veterans discount at places. I went to a causalata the 568 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: other day and I asked, I asked the kids strap, 569 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: I said, do you guys have a military discount here? Stop? 570 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: And he wasn't sure. 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It's just like the description of every 607 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: girl in the book is like tits first round tits. 608 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: She had these high, perky tits her tits walked into 609 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: the room. She was banging everybody with her tits. She 610 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: had these big softest wait are you were you going 611 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: to read that part? Where right? I still have that? Okay, okay, 612 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: let's do this. Okay. Sometimes I combined my passion for 613 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: drugs and girls. We had just played in South Carolina 614 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: and I was a little drunk, so I went straight 615 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: into a cocon. The bartender at the club found me 616 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: half a Graham, and I did it a hall too soon, 617 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: so I was horny beyond control role when this fat 618 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: girl approached me. She was probably about five to three 619 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: with an unusual chunky sheep. She had fairly large girth, 620 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: and her tits were like enormous missiles that projected out 621 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: from her elbows to the end of her hands. She 622 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: was kind of pretty, though not the type of girl 623 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: I'd ever hit on before. But she had her album 624 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: and she told me I was her favorite poet of 625 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: all time. And she gave me this letter that, among 626 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: other things, suggested my dick was like a dolphin and 627 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: her pussy was the ocean, and I had to go 628 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: for a swim in that ocean. She also wrote that 629 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: she worshiped the ground I walked on and that she 630 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: was my servant. She'd do anything for me. So then 631 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: the sex. Because she wasn't typically hot, it's like, we 632 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: get it, she's big. He's like, did I tell you 633 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: guys that she was fat and that I usually don't 634 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: fuck fat chip. There was no pressure. Whatever happened happened. 635 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: We went for all night with her big, beautiful, pillowy 636 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: breast and her crazy extra wide body shop i mean shape. 637 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: The whole time we were fucking, she was telling me 638 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: this was her dream come true, but not in a 639 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: way that made it unpleasant. Later I found out that 640 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: she had put twenty hits of acid in that letter me, 641 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: so I was able to barter in the next town 642 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: for some coke. Nice fat chock. And it's like he's 643 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: writing this truly thinking he's complimenting her, being like she 644 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: wasn't typically hot, but she got to experience my dish, 645 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: got to rid the cutest machine. Yeah this dolphins swim 646 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: all around her oceans. Oh, Lauren, No, sorry that kicked 647 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: off guys, hear me. Oh yeah, you got too horny. Yeah, 648 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: the power went out. Literally, the lights above me started 649 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: just like buzzing. Okay, Lauren now do share with us 650 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: what you had? Oh share, but I had kee up yeah, 651 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: page two fifty three. She was a five foot nine, 652 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: nineteen year old blonde Nordic goddess with big blue eyes, 653 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: a bowl cut hairty unbelievable smile. Plus she was wearing 654 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: a T shirt with a huge face of Woody Allan 655 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: on it, and her tits were poking out each of 656 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: Woody's eyeglasses so that his eyes seemed to be going 657 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: in different directions. I couldn't have put it in order 658 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: with God for a more perfect physical specimen the way 659 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: this paged, so more you're a pedophile without aphile. Her 660 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: kids were busting out of her Woody Allen like like 661 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: fucking God himself like away Adam pulled Eve out of 662 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: his own rim did this girl happen to being? Oh 663 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: my god? It was. I just I had to laugh 664 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: because it's like, sure, there's more egregious offenses than like, 665 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, participating. You know, he insists he'd had nothing 666 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: to do with groupie culture, but it's like, clearly you did. 667 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: He obviously has this narrative about himself where he's just 668 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: like and dude, once we started getting famous, like I 669 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to fuck the groupies because it was too easy. 670 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: It was about the chase. For me, You're just like, 671 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, it sounds just like you. There's a 672 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: different girl, and it's a different girl on every page, 673 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: and just like you are absolutely just like fucking your fans. Absolutely. 674 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: I wish I could have been. I mean I was 675 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: what like eleven or twelve, I think when the book 676 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: came out, and just it actually came out on my 677 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: thirteenth birthday, October six, two thousand and four, so I 678 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: think that was another part of me happy early bird 679 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: out to me. Yeah, it was like I wish I 680 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: could have known how it was received back then, Like 681 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I want to go into the New 682 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: York Times archive or like the New York or mag 683 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: archive to see with the writeups where at the time, 684 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: let's get out at micro Fish. I'm sure people were 685 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: just like, this is really an unflinching portray. Oh. I 686 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: bet it was a lot of like Super Frank Magazine 687 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: on front just being like raw inspiring me. This remains 688 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: a staple of like Hudson booksellers in the airport. Like 689 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: I feel like in my mind and you know, I don't. 690 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't hang around I know musical bone in my body. 691 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: I really don't hang around musicians. But like I do 692 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: feel like this is like the most I thought you 693 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: were about to say, I don't hang around Hudson News. No, 694 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: that's where I work. Yeah, that's I work at the 695 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: one aw that's actually do you work at the JFK? Okay, 696 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: because the security clearance to work at the airport even 697 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: just for you know, I work at every single one 698 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: at JFK, and I just have to run from terminal 699 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: a terminal. You open them and you closed them, so 700 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 1: you know you're an opener. When a new Hudson News 701 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: is opening, you got him, get them in the typical 702 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: New York way. You guys have been talking to me 703 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: this whole time, and then you find out that, like 704 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: my dad invented Hudson booksellers, I'm like the heiress to 705 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: the whole all that shit. I'm actually really rich. This 706 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: closet is just like of green screen. Yeah, like maybe 707 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: name is Laurie Hudson. Oh yeah. When I said I 708 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: was from upstate, I meant Hudson, New York because my 709 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: father and I'm the little marr. I'm little miss Junior 710 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: married one, two, three, four give say mcgivee, say mcgivene 711 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: a segment what does she lives where? Okay um? What 712 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: is she eats? What does she eat? Okay um? I 713 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: mean I get the vibe that maybe he's like vegan vegetarian. 714 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: So one thing he mentions rarely randomly in the book 715 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: several times is that he is a vegetarian. Um, because 716 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: there was one time who was like, man, like I 717 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: have I'm been a vegetarian for years, but like I 718 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: was so hungry after we had like we had been 719 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: lost in the part they're lost in Indonesia in like 720 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: the jungle for like two weeks. Oh yeah, and the 721 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: sharpers like bringing in the mountains and they're like, honestly, 722 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: we didn't know if we would survive. And we kept 723 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: looking for this river and we were searching over for 724 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: ten days and they finally found this river and like 725 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: somebody in a passing boat gave us a deer leg 726 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I'm a vegetarian, but I did tear 727 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: into that deer um. But yeah, so I feel like 728 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: he is. I mean, he's so celebrity. It's been so 729 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: rich for so long, so I just feel like he's 730 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: so going to squirrel, which is like a famous La 731 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: bowlerree and he's getting like such a kia remember the 732 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: one that was over here? Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes 733 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: in the East Village? Is that so open? Yeah? Okay, 734 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: that went the way of the dobt. I remember I 735 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: used to live in the angelicause we get the most 736 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: badass egg scrambless no bacon. Because he mentions like when 737 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: he was a hile of time getting like junk food 738 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: and he was like, man, Fleet knew I was high 739 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: because he saw that cheetos. I WoT. I would never 740 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: eat cheetos if I wasn't high. Yeah, he does have 741 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: a going back to his talking masculinity where he does 742 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: really because because he was like, yeah, it was a 743 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: crazy thing, more to a ton of coconhouen. And I 744 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: would also exercise a lot because like I'm still being healthy, 745 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,919 Speaker 1: like he still is being like gym at him. He's 746 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: all even the way he talks, he's always about the 747 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: fat girl experience. It's always like for me, I'm like, hey, 748 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: you know what, no one scrutinizes my body as much 749 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: as I do. And then you're like, wait, actually there 750 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: might be one man in the world who does actually 751 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: you notice and pick up on all of the things 752 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: that I hate about my own body. And it's Anthony 753 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: Keatis and he clearly he probably would be like he 754 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:18,959 Speaker 1: probably would order for you. She's gonna have, she's gonna have. Yeah, yeah, 755 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: she's gonna have the fish soup. And I could see 756 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: him so true, getting mad, like as go from for 757 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: like eating like a steak or just like something naught here, 758 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: He's like, why are you putting that shit? Oh my god, yes, yep, 759 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: oh my god. Read you read him to fill And 760 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: he's like, I mean, yeah, I mean, hey, do what 761 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: you want to do. But like you know, it's full 762 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: of hormones or whatever I do. I wonder whatever the 763 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 1: inside of his fridge looks like these days, it's definitely Arowan. 764 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: If there's a ton of Awander supplements. Yeah, there's powders. 765 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: I mean it's um big shake in the morning, Like 766 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: there's so many beet root powders, and then spillina powders. 767 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: There's probably spilina ice cubes in the freezer. And I 768 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: feel like there's a private chef who he imported like 769 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: from somewhere and was like and she makes like amazing 770 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: dope ass tie. She makes dope ass vietname, she makes 771 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: dope ass Mexican hall a good curries. It's probably the 772 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: same woman that was giving them oxygen, the one that 773 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: he mentioned at the end that it's like their lifeline, 774 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: the band lifeline who I feel so bad was like 775 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: both their oxygen dispenser and then like they're therapist. He 776 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 1: kind of was like not thinking her for a little messy. 777 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: Um what does she where she wear? I mean shirtless? 778 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I've never seen him in a shirt. 779 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of classic, like his songs very 780 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: seventies because he is like copying his dad in the savanies, 781 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: and I think he never got out of that. Just 782 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: like wearing like slightly belled jeans and like a button 783 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: downs that like are also slightly belled. It's just like 784 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: that kind of class. I get a sense of John 785 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: Varvados where it's like for the guy who doesn't need 786 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 1: to be wearing you know, those kind of like chic 787 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: rags like he can afford. More so they're like tailored 788 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: rags in a way that makes sense. But it's like 789 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: Lucy Tidy Tidy, Lucy Varvados, like, yeah, Linen for sure. Okay. 790 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: I also feel like you're so on there because the 791 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: John Varvados store New York is where used to be 792 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: so literally the anatomy of a sellout. It's like from 793 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: CBGBs to John Varvados, right, and it's like really good 794 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: black Dawn him good black. Do you know the watches 795 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 1: that are like made of like a bunch of leather bands, 796 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It has like the 797 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: watch I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, like fun where there's 798 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: six little leather chords that then attach at the watch face. Yeah, 799 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 1: that's accurato. But he doesn't have any piercinges. I'm like, 800 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: it's wait, we're draining because you would think he'd be 801 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: so plugs, but I guess it's just like he was 802 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: that's always been too gay an emo for him, and 803 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: maybe actually he's pre plugs culture. Yeah plugs again, think yeah, 804 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: And I don't see any pier stairs in anything, And 805 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: like piercing was just like straight up like a village people. Then, 806 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: so no earring. I feel like I feel like an earring. 807 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: Maybe again, I'm saying I'm gonna say no ring. I'm 808 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: pushing for knowing I feel like since he did the 809 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: long hair, Yeah, that was like good enough. That was 810 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: his earring, that was his that was his head accessory. Um, 811 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: you can only father that's such a bad name. Jennifer's feathers, 812 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: the Jennifer's Feathers. Ok, we're starting that band tomorrow. Even 813 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: though you don't have a musical bone in your body, 814 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: you will Now, I'll be the one in the I'll 815 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: be like the you know, like the one fan in 816 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: the audience. It's like your friend that wants to be 817 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, she's getting into the rest of 818 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: little do they know that. I'm like a plan just 819 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: swaying for hours. Man. She was at our show since 820 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: the fucking beginning. Yeah, no one was there, and so 821 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: we ended up giving her seven percent of a record 822 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: deal with so many dude, I would kill free of 823 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: probably their total earnings. They really have made so much money. Well, 824 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: they made money when you could still make money off 825 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: of like selling, because it was just like their CD's 826 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: probably sold like twenty million copies and they literally made 827 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: just like gazillion dollars off of the twelve ninety nine 828 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: for that Compactice Boom. It's kind of crazy. I never 829 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: like red Hot to me. It was always like it's 830 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: on the radio, I'm listening to it, liking it. But 831 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: I was never like I need to buy. I was 832 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: never that much fan that I bought the CD and 833 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: there you weren't jerking off it. I need I needed 834 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: I made in my jerk off soundtrack. I mean it's 835 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: a very I mean it makes sense because a very 836 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: sexual band I was. But I was. But you were 837 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: like anti Top twenty where I was pro Top twenty. 838 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: So I would go to Newark Comics and they would 839 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: have the top twenty CDs of the week, like in 840 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: the racks, and so you could like go pick and 841 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh hello, like number three, Hell yeah, 842 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 1: that's like American Idol compilation. Yes, they have the twenty 843 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: and it's like the many Husbands of Evelyn Hugo or whatever. 844 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: And I'm like all reason, like tell me what, you 845 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: tell me what to do? I am like merely a 846 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: cog in the machine. I'm with you, though, I'm pro 847 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: Top twenty, always pop till I die. Yeah, okay, how 848 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: does he live? You know? There's a lot of important 849 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: teak yes, liver like like this situate, like where you 850 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: like las very lavishly. It's really about like specific to 851 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: core choices that are happening, just like his bedside table lighting. 852 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: Is the bed high? Is the bed low? That's actually 853 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: a really good question, Like amenable to just like a 854 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: to having sex a lots of tantric crazy sex is 855 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: how I feel like the bed is low. I want 856 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: to say that bed is low too, because like that 857 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: feels more like easy to just like fuckt ending up 858 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: on like where she's on her like doggiesta on the bed, 859 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: but you're standing on the floor or whatever. Like I 860 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: imagine that's a popular one. Like, and I think a 861 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: high bed is like there's just too much acrobatics involved 862 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a little steps high bed. I 863 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: is the only reason I have that is living in 864 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 1: New York and you have to store shot under there. 865 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: Otherwise low bed makes so much. Yeah, But but some 866 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: people are really insane and they they are tasteless, and 867 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: they like think that their bed has to be such 868 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: a like throne, and so they're very just like Prince 869 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: Mattress pad box spring Prince, it's very Princess in the 870 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: pee and it's got a four poster or whatever. So 871 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: and and like some like rich people in their big 872 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: bedrooms have that as well, where everything is like everything 873 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: so oversized and like you need a ladder just to 874 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: get onto the couch, like that kind of vibe. I 875 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 1: don't necessarily think he is that. I think he is 876 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: definitely like no, I also go back to his days 877 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: of always having a mattress on the floor where he 878 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: was Mark. Just so you guys know, oh yeah, yeah, 879 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: well hanging another from four post bed. Dude actually talk 880 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: about like like battle of the two super LA musicians. 881 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: They're probably the most two most LA rocks are I 882 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: don't think of off the top of my head, honest 883 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: to god, most last bros. What's funny is that the 884 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: girl says she knows nothing about LA. Uh, your talk 885 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 1: has got holes and talk about Mark McGrath like you 886 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 1: know him. Hum, like you've maybe seen that four post bed, Oh, 887 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: Hollywood and Vine. I don't know that intersection. I have 888 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: no idea. I'm just a little girl from Iowa. Yeah, 889 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: I've just been lying time gas lighting already, a little 890 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 1: girl from i I feel like it's just Eastern vibes. 891 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: I am getting Eastern vibes. So it brings us to 892 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: the question we ask every episode. Is that's why you 893 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: guys ask on that because I was gonna sat in 894 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: the backyard. Yeah yeah, like PERI absolutely yeah, god on. 895 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 1: My grandmother's so excited that that's where you were going 896 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 1: with this because I was thinking about it. I'm so 897 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: glad you're right there with us and the Buddha. Okay, well, 898 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: I think we nailed it. I also want to say 899 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: Buddha infinity poure. Yeah. Also, this is just one house. 900 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: We already know that there's like six yes reds in 901 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: the house that like he hasn't been to in a while. 902 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: But we'll see what's happening over there. Posts and um um, 903 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,919 Speaker 1: who are you in the book? Wow? Who is the book? Okay? 904 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about us since I read this passage. 905 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: I think that I'm fleas slutty Australian sister Karen. Yeah 906 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: you're Karen, and like and I'm just like, comar Finny, 907 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: help me study. I've got a batist tomorrow and then okay, 908 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: and I've kind of think i'm fully in this way 909 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: where I'm telling people that my sister's really sexually active. 910 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: We're talking about your sister sex like way too much. 911 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm like dude, you could have her if you want. 912 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 1: I'm the one mention of Chris Farley coming to visit 913 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: him at Exodus that was so dark. He was like, 914 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: it was really good to see Chris. Okay, but also, 915 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: you have amazing style. You have Jennifer vibes a little, 916 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: But Jennifer, I could see you building a structurally sound 917 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: TV that could last the winter with the like seriously 918 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: coming to the boyfriend's parents and they're like, oh, this 919 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: girl's pretty every That's when he seems like you you 920 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: do that one time for your wife. He brought every 921 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: fucking girlfriend to cross the line with You don't share this. 922 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: We don't share a lot of the same values. I'll 923 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: tell you that. But that's why I wanted that, because 924 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: I felt like truly I was like, I know, we 925 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: talked about doing the Victoria Gatty one, but I was like, 926 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: it's a little too close to the sun, Like I 927 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: can I really can predict what's gonna happen here. I 928 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: was like, I like, I don't know my ass or 929 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,320 Speaker 1: my elbow when it comes to rockstar shit la living. 930 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: When it comes to someone who would bring every single 931 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: significant other home to their parents every summer, every summer, 932 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 1: every every Christmas. He was a big Christmas guy, and 933 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: he's like, oh my mom's the best. You're gonna love her. 934 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: Or I would say I could be the mom who 935 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: was just so so patient, just patient midwestern mom who 936 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 1: though did you go to LA and was funky for 937 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 1: a while. She was funky and she was also I 938 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean she I feel like, are you 939 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: for her though when you're like marrying someone named Scott 940 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: Saint Jude or whatever, and you're like caring for him 941 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: through his third triple bypass? Not saying you wouldn't care 942 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 1: for someone through their third triple bypass, but she seems 943 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: like she was more like I felt like her thing 944 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: was like and this was you know, women of that 945 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: era or whatever. It was like difficult, but it was 946 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 1: like she seems like she was always kind of like 947 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 1: at the mercy of the kind of husband she was with. 948 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: It was like she was having a rough time when 949 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: she was with the messy husband. She was just like 950 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: then she needed to get this new guy, and then 951 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 1: he was remember that she had like the next husband, 952 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 1: and it was like her kind of well being seemed 953 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: a little bit too tethered to a marriage and I 954 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: don't see that, and you as much like you're a 955 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 1: stronger defendentet woman. No, that's true, You're right. No, it 956 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: was Chris Farley final answer, just like correct Chris Farley, 957 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of I wonder where Jennifer also is 958 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: that I didn't go. I was gonna wait till after this. 959 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't spoil it. I really do 960 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: want to look up all of them, including Claire, who 961 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: of course got roasted the most because she was the 962 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: most recent girlfriend. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, 963 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: I could tell where he was being like umber, it 964 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: was an active annoyance where the rest of them were 965 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 1: obviously more passive and more time to be like a 966 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 1: little more generous, more just like and I do wonder 967 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: where that baton rouge girls chief fist. I wonder where 968 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: the fat trick the same? I know, can we get 969 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: like an amendment? Shi? Seriously? Yeah, that's I mean, now 970 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 1: very Pamela to bars like the girls of Scarton. Oh 971 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: my god, don't next on my freaking list. Um okay, 972 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,879 Speaker 1: random House take note for that. I know a little 973 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 1: Grottoes copy place. There's like five million copies in the strand, 974 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: trust me, every time I go to the Strand, I 975 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: just teck to make sure. I've been doing that for 976 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: years now. It seems like you spend a lot of 977 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: time in bookstores, which is fucking cool in old school 978 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 1: New York. I only go to masked books because I 979 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: can like only get art books and shit huge ar yeah, 980 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: hellic curated, like fucking like Mapplethorpe. Oh, just buying a 981 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: used three hundred dollars Mapplethorpe book today. Then a little 982 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 1: bit of I'm gonna buy some nuts and then matra 983 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,359 Speaker 1: and then go home. Oh my god, Lauren, this has 984 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: been epic. This has been such a yeah, such a 985 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: thrill ride. Thank you for having me. I do have 986 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: a question now, Um, what book are you guys reading next? 987 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 1: Are you allowed to tell me? Or oh, you know what? 988 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 1: Because it's you, I just run straight to do more 989 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: with his information. Yeah, you're just like, I know what 990 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: the book is? Book club next week? Ann? Please? You 991 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: would always say that's like it's always Ann. She's never 992 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 1: posting like your phone number, so it's fine, Like Kate 993 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: Hudson's not going to find out that you said her 994 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: sister was nice. She smelled good. No, but really what 995 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: are you reading. We're doing epic lesbian soccer player Abby Wombach, 996 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: us women's soccer team captain and her small volumes of 997 00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: a memoir forward what we've read because forward is a 998 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 1: position on it probably wasn't goes for. She probably wrote 999 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: it herself. Lauren, Yeah, do you have any amazing things 1000 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: that we should punk for you? Like? Yeah, any sort 1001 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 1: of like three episode arcs on any CBS Plus series 1002 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: or anything like that. I'm a peacock girl, easy fucking doesn't. No, 1003 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: I wish I had something. This is actually a call 1004 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: to anyone. I would love to work, I would love 1005 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: to act. I will do anything. I'm so desperate. I 1006 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: must have killed a casting director in my last life 1007 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: because um, they are allergic to me. You like poison 1008 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: someone at Metro Goldwin Films. Yeah that's yeoh yeah yeah 1009 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: yeah wait now, I like I hop off to do 1010 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: my other podcast, like you must remember this isn't that 1011 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: the one where they talk about like old Hollywood ship, Yes, 1012 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: because I gotta do that. Nope, nothing, Um, this is 1013 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: actually the only highlight of my life was being on 1014 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: this like this month only. Can we just say that 1015 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: you are on You must remember this I'm gonna start 1016 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: like seating that in things like my episode's coming out soon, 1017 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 1: and then like a year goes by and they're like, 1018 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 1: whatever happened to that? Check out Lauren on the Amazing 1019 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 1: podcast You Must Must Remember This episode two hundred and 1020 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: eighty six. She has so much knowledge about film and 1021 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: a whole dalty Wood and flappers. I bet you get 1022 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: at least one person just being like, oh, you were 1023 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: kick ass on that podcast you must remember this? Yeah, 1024 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 1: that was me. It was great to talk to the 1025 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: host about the you know, old Hays Coode stuff, the 1026 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: studio system. Can I also just piggyback to casting directors. 1027 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: This is this kind of for me. I would also 1028 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: like to be cast and yeah, and just sort of 1029 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: backflip off that. I would also ask casting directors to 1030 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 1: sort of shoot their little spectacles in my direction. Um, 1031 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, see if I'm right for something, I wonder 1032 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: if they were for like, no, we can till they 1033 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: want to be Indie darlings, So we're just gonna leave 1034 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: them out of every conversation about casting. However, I mean, 1035 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: it's like clearly we all want to be in a 1036 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: movie that's called just like thank you for not saying sorry, 1037 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, well we'll see you at the premiere. 1038 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: See it's the premiere. Okay, I'll be wearing got bye bas. 1039 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club is presented by Prolog Projects and head Gum. 1040 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: The show is produced by Mike Murnay, with the shorts 1041 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: part from Leonok Andrew turned bo Lynn Couplin. 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