WEBVTT - Ghosts of Bachelor Couples Past 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.280 Hell I Suck At Dating with the Nongler and Dared 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:10.559 Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone? 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.800 Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:20.040 At Dating. The date is Sunday, November. What is it? 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.560 What is it? November twenty nine, Sunday after Thanksgiving. That's 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.640 all I can remember. And everybody's had too much turkey 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.880 to remember what date it is. Yeah, the trip to 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.680 fan is kicked in. Um, Jared, what did you do 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:32.560 for Thanksgiving? So I flew down to Virginia to see 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.000 my in laws, including one that I named a coffee 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.000 shop afterwards, so they were very happy with that. Uh, 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.479 and it was it was, it was, It was nice. Listen. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.800 We went out to eat for Thanksgiving, which is something 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:48.600 that like my traditional traditional list that's a word traditionalist 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:54.240 heart did not enjoy. Not gonna lie. Um, But her 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.440 parents have been wanting to go out to eat for 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:00.200 Thanksgaping for years and since we've been together Ash and 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.319 I we've eaten at their their house, have had people over. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.400 So this year they won went out to a restaurant 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.280 and at least the restaurant had a Thanksgiving meal, you know, 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.160 so that was really nice. What was the cuisine, Well, 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:19.000 it's turkey stuffing, mashed potatoes. It was traditional, which was 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.240 very nice because originally the idea was to go to 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.640 a steakhouse, which, of course I wouldn't have said anything 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.000 because it's my in laws and I have to keep 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.400 my mouth shut. But little Jared would have been very 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.880 sad if he went to a steakhouse on Thanksgiving. Um. Yeah, 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.400 that's that's interesting. I don't think I've ever gone out 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.880 to dinner on Thanksgiving. I'm surprised that they're Well, I'm 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.360 not surprised, I guess, but you know, I feel like 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.800 Thanksgiving is one of those holidays where most things shut down. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:44.920 So I'm sure you're probably hard pressed to find an 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.200 open restaurant on Thanksgiving night, right. Oh yeah, Well the 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.680 problem is as well, someone like myself, who has worked 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.560 in the restaurant industry for the majority of his life. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.160 Anytime we were open for a holiday, anybody who came in, 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.480 I was like, screw these people, go home, go eat 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.200 at home. This is where that's where you should be. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.440 So now I am one of those people coming in 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:09.000 on a holiday and being like, hello, reservation seven people, 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.760 I'm here as long as you tip a little extra 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:13.920 and you're extra grateful and all that kind of stuff. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.079 I think it's totally okay as a you know, I 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.000 used to work in the hotel industry, um back when 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.840 I was in college and stuff, and I actually preferred 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.360 working holidays because people were more generous. You know, if 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.360 you work in a tipping business, people are bound to 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:27.840 tip more, a little more on the holidays. You get 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.680 paid time and a half, you make money. It was 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.280 it was nice. It was nice to make a little 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.320 bit of money and all that kind of stuff. Um, 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.680 I've always done, and I think this is a bit 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.639 of a tradition throughout America. Um More on Christmas time though, 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.360 Like Christmas dinner, you get Chinese food. Have you ever 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:48.720 done that before? Yes? Why is that? What a random thing? 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.040 It's super random. It's Christmas Eve, right, Christmas Eve. I'm 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.679 supposed to get uh, you know, Chinese food. It's it's 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.320 like Christmas even New Year's Eve. I don't know why 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.640 or how that became a tradition. The only thing I 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.120 can think of is if you've ever seen the movie 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:09.560 A Christmas Story, which is a Christmas classic, it plays 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:14.640 literally twenty four hours, twenty four hours straight from Christmas 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.280 Eve into Christmas Day, that's how popular it is. In 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:21.359 that movie, the Christmas dinner gets ruined because the next 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.280 door neighbors dogs break into the house and destroy all 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.120 the food on the table. So then they go out 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.360 to a Chinese restaurant because it's the only place open 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.280 on Christmas. I have no idea if the two are correlated, 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.800 but that's all I know from it. Um So, everyone 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.960 always talks about favorite Christmas movies, and since you're such 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.240 a movie guy, do you have a favorite Thanksgiving movie. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.040 I don't know if it's a Thanksgiving movie, but the 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.320 movie that I like to watch on Thanksgiving to kick 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.920 off the holiday season is Home Alone. I for some reason, 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.280 I think of Home Alone more as a Thanksgiving Day 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.560 movie rather than a Christmas movie. I think it's just 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.840 my childhood. I think it's when we started watching it. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.720 But there's nothing that gives my little Christmas heart more 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.240 joy than watching Home Alone on Thanksgiving night, And it 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.880 really just like kicks off the Christmas season in the 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.640 greatest way possible. I would agree. I would say Christmas 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.840 doesn't really start. Christmas season doesn't start until the day 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.360 after Thanksgiving. Maybe even someone argued December one, give yourself 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.640 some some time to adjust. But Kaylin actually just put 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.160 up our Christmas tree yesterday and I kind of had 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:27.640 a fighter on a little bit. I was like, do 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.600 you think it's a little too soon? Do you're putting 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.279 up this Christmas tree? And she was like, I don't 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.600 care what you think. I'm putting it up. I can't 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.080 wait till it's up. She's already decorated it and everything. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.040 So I guess, um, you know people who love celebrating 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.479 Christmas a little But I'm with Kylin on this one. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.960 Come on, it's only it's literally a month and a 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.400 half's first of all, If you don't start celebrating until 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.800 after the first, it's twenty five days and then it's over. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.039 So why not just put it up? What I think 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:57.000 should happen is I think that Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.839 should all be one holiday and it's just the whole 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.080 holiday season rate From Halloween, you go rain to Christmas 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.880 and it's two months worth of holidays. Could you imagine 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.520 if there weren't these holidays during this time of year? 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.800 The sun is just up for like six hours a day. 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.520 There's nothing to look forward to other than the day 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.280 is getting longer again. So like thank Goodness, there's Thanksgiving 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:23.320 and Christmas and Hanukkah, Kwanza, Halloween, all these holidays that 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:27.400 are to be celebrated this time of year because otherwise December, November, January, 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.479 it's pretty like I think about it. When January one comes, 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.960 the next holiday you can celebrate is like Thanksgiving, I guess, 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.520 and then after that you've got um MLK Day and 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.359 then Easter. I don't know, like like, yeah, you have Easter. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.560 I mean, then they have like listen, I'm not going 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.479 to call them dumb holidays because they're not dumb holidays. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.480 But I don't know. Actually I live Valentine's Day. I 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.160 think it's a dumb, hot, stupid. I don't get it. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.719 I don't care if I get heat for it. Actually 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.159 hates the fact that I don't like Valentine's Day just 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.160 not a big because first of all, it comes right 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:05.000 after Christmas, and then Ashley's birthday's March six, So it's like, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.840 how many gifts do I have to buy this human being? 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.200 I love her to death, she's my wife, but I 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.160 gotta get her gifts for Christmas. Then I gotta get 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:11.839 her gifts for Valentine's Day. Then I gotta get her 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:16.720 gifts for her birthday. And we're barely into March at 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.920 this point. I mean spread it out a little bit. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.640 So Valentine's Day not a big not a big fan. Yeah, well, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.000 at least you can just kind of like bang them 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.320 all out and you don't have to worry about getting 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.240 gifts about the entire year, you know, just three months. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:28.760 Like you said, we're in, we're out about a bing 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:34.520 bada boom YadA, YadA YadA. With my dumb guy brain 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.440 just forgets about things. So like I'm so I put 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.719 so much effort into Christmas that by the time valent 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.880 Valentine's Day rolls around, I'm like just coming out of 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.440 the Christmas coma and it's like I just got you 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:47.840 a gift, Now I gotta get you something else. So 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.039 I always get flowers, and then her birthday comes up, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.160 and I'm like, I'll that's try. I gotta get you 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.520 something else because it's your birthday. I've kind of adopted 0:06:54.560 --> 0:07:00.120 the idea of not giving uh material gifts anymore. Like 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:01.960 maybe if you like make something, I guess that's fine. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:03.919 But like I'm I I and This is like a 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.039 new concept that I'm just like starting to try out 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.160 this year, specifically for Christmas with my family. Um where 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:13.520 I'm just gonna be giving like experiential gifts. Hugs. Hugs, 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.320 They're fine, Uh, more like experiential things like you know, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.760 my family is coming out to us in Vegas this year, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.280 so I'm gonna like get us all tickets to a 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.040 Broncos game or go and see a Cirt Day Slay 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.680 show because or the Matrix comes out, We're gonna go 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.280 see the Matrix definitely. Are you a big Matrix fan? Uh? Yeah. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.520 My brothers are huge, huge Matrix fans, and I like, 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.480 I like the movie series quite a bit, so I 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:40.360 have your brother Matrix Resurrections. I'm counting down the days 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:41.920 we don't have to talk about the Matrix because we're 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.160 a dating podcast and no one gives about it. Well, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.040 you know, Trinity and Neo and we can talk about 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.280 that a little bit. It's a love story right there. Yeah. Um, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.360 so that's that's you know, if you're looking for some 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.920 gift giving advice, maybe take that into consideration too. Instead 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.040 of getting like a material thing, get more of like 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.720 a you know, I don't know, some sort of nice 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:04.480 little romantic experiencial gesture. Um, by the way, you didn't ask, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.960 but my Thanksgiving was really good. First of all, I 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:08.640 was waiting till you're done, and then I was about 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.320 to ask, saying, hey, how was your Thanksgiving? What did 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.280 you do? No, let's talk about yours a little bit 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.920 more hired, what did you do? No? Ours was fine. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.800 We just we went to Kaylin's grandparents house. Um, we 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.360 were a little worried because, you know, as we talked 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.280 about last week a little bit, I wasn't feeling super 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.120 super good at Ben's wedding. I had the flu, and 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.000 Caitlin started getting a little sick too, and uh, we 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:33.840 like didn't want to go to Caylin's grandparents house if 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.800 either of us are feeling ill at all. But I'm 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.560 fully recovered and Caylin woke up the day before Thanksgiving. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.960 Fee But yeah, so we went to Caylin's grandparents house 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.199 and her uncle came over with his new wife, and uh, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.520 just played some board games, you know, just kind of 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.400 like the more traditional Thanksgiving experience rather than going out 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.600 to dinner, which I don't I don't hate the going 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.800 out to dinner thing. I gotta say, like, you know, 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.520 you don't have to clean up after yourself. No one 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.120 has to worry about bringing dishes and like cooking ing 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.439 and all that kind of stuff. So I see the appeal, 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.199 but it sounds like you're never gonna want to do 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.200 it again, is that right? Yeah? No, I like it. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.040 I like being at home. That's where I want to be. Uh. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.120 And that's the bottom line. As they say, we do 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.800 have some hot topics. I guess we should start talking 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.079 about dating at some point besides our own lives before 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.160 we get to the hot topics though, because I'm looking 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.000 at the same run down as you. Yeah, and the 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.520 hot topics are great. I feel like a lot has 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.080 happened within the Bachelor world this past week that we like, 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.400 we can't not talk about those things. You know, Despite 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.520 the fact that we try not to be a bachelor podcast, 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.680 the fact remains that we, um, there were two guys 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.840 from the Bachelor franchise, both of which you're dating someone 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.360 who you met on Bachelor Paradise. I'm married and expecting 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.199 a kid who someone I met in Bachelor Paradise. Like, 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.559 let's be honest, we're a little bit of a Bachelor podcast. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.000 So we've got to talk about it a little bit, 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.400 and um, yeah, I think there's a lot of bad 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.200 news that came out recently within the Bachelor franchise dating 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.480 all the way back. Let's start like Dale and Claire 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:02.680 broke up, bad news. But and we see that Katie 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.680 and Blake broke up, and then not long after, we 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.440 see that Tasha and Zach broke up. So that's that's 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.040 the last three bachelorettes in a row that had just 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.920 broken up with their um final selection. Who's the bachelorette 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.080 before the Tassia and Claire season? Who the hell was that? 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.800 That wasn't Hannah, was it? I think it was John. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.400 Now I'm losing my mind. Now I have to figure 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.800 that out because now I'm curious who's the last person 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.120 to be Who's the last bachelorette to be the person 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.600 they picked? Because remember, for a while there, Bachelorette was 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.760 kicking Bachelor's ass in terms of couples that have lasted, right, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.920 But I think the last one was Rachel. Was my 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.880 bachelorette was Rachel and Brian who's now obviously married to Brian. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:49.520 I think she's the last successful bachelorette because it went Rachel. Oh, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:57.959 and I gotta look this up. Becca Rachel, Becca, Hannah, Claire, Tasha, Katie. Yeah, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.240 that's right. It's the last four in row. Now we 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.559 have got Michelle season airing, and obviously we don't know 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.319 who she chooses yet, but she's got a lot of 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.360 pressure on her shoulders. I feel like to make it work. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.560 I don't know. Did you have you followed the breakup 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.120 saga with any of these couples in the past couple 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.440 of like weeks or days. Yeah, I mean I've caught 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.600 up a little bit. The Tasia and Zach Juan is 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:23.360 obviously the saddest in my opinion, because one, I really 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.640 like Tassia. She is a sweetheart, and Zach seemed like 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.880 he probably is still obviously I'm super down to earth, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.839 easygoing guy. I just didn't work out between the two 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.480 of them, which really sucks because I liked them together. Like, 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.679 for example, Tasia FaceTime to Ashley and was crying when 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.319 we announced we were having a kid and it was 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.720 the sweetest moment ever. So I was like, oh, I 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.400 really wish that Tassia and Zach were gonna work out. Now, 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.600 all right, Well, so who did you say? So? Who 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:52.560 is the bachelorette before Um, Katie, Tassia, Claire, cla It 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.880 wasn't gonna Holy crap, Why does that feel like seven 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.320 years ago? And Becca, which I guess I didn't even 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:02.720 account in to that too. That's five in ourrow. Becca, Hannah, Tasha, Claire, Katie. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:07.600 All five of those bachelorettes broke up with their final selection. Wow. Yeah, 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.079 you're right, the last one with Rachel because there was 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.680 a hot streak going Caitlin with Sean and then Jojo 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.760 with Jordan's Rachel with Brian. I know, but then obviously 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.839 Sean and Caitlin broke up, so that doesn't count with 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.240 the hot streak. No, it doesn't. It was a hot streak, 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.960 no more hot streak. It ended, and then who desire 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:31.200 still with her guy man? So it was Andy before 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:35.040 Andy Dorfman picked Josh Murray. That's crazy to me. It's 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.960 so weird thinking about that. Now, Desiree picked Chris. I 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.000 remember that because I've become friends with Brooks. Brooks was 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.640 on that season and he left, long story. And then 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:50.160 the season before that, Emily Maynard picked Jeff Home that's 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:54.719 in sanity. And then now we're going way back. Wow, dude, Yeah, bachelorette, 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.520 what's going on? Why are these couples breaking up? Are we? Are? 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.439 We just not we? We don't believe in love anymore. 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.760 I think it's just a whole show thing because even 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.440 the bachelors haven't really been Matt and Rachel I think, 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:10.960 are still together, but like not engaged. Besides them who 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.160 are yeah, not not engaged. Um, there's also been a 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.400 pretty soury streak for the bachelors too, So I just 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.600 I feel like something's going on, something's in the in 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.360 the water. Maybe um, that they're feeding their contestants. Matt 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.240 and Rachel together all right, so hopefully they work out. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.679 We'll see they're just dating boyfriend girlfriend, so I don't 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:34.000 know how serious it is. Peter obviously did not work 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.400 out Colton. We all know what happened with there Ari 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.520 Pitt to Becca, but obviously made the switch and went 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.360 with Lauren. Are we counting that that counts? I count 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.400 that too? Uh? Nick? Obviously we all know half of that. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.880 Ben we all know just coming from his wedding. Chris 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.640 obviously did not work with Whitney. Wow, so Sean and 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.520 Catherine so the last guy because listen, if if we're 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.560 not if we're saying like Ari didn't pick, like he 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.200 he switched then the last guy to be still with 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:12.360 the woman he picked with Sean and Catherine from two 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:17.840 thousand and thirteen. Holy craps, I was I think I 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:19.520 was still in middle school in two thousand and thirteen. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.720 Got shot. I know you're worried. You're almost as old 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.440 as me. They're on. So I want to go through 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.720 Bachelor in Paradise couples now because I really think b 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.040 I P. That's where it's at. That's like the saving 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.800 grace for the couples of the franchise. I think let's uh, 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.720 let's let's exclude this most recent season. It's too recent 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.480 to include them in the list. Yeah, should we take 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.000 a quick break and then come back with the Bachelor 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.480 Paradise couples because we're already pretty good. Let's take a 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.000 quick break and then we're gonna come back and remind 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.960 everybody of who's still together from Bachelor in Paradise because 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.360 Bachelorette and Bachelor kind of sucking right now and they 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.120 need to step up the game. But rather than just 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.640 reminding everyone of the couples, I want to I want 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.760 to see if you've got any like juicy inside scoop. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.840 So stick around through the break and we'll see what 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.400 Jared and uh his wife have been talking about over 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:18.280 there in Rhode Island. So you're back, all right, Jared, 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.360 we're back. So tell us. So you're you're about to 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.120 get into the Bachelor in Paradise couples from let's go 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.280 like six and and earlier, because like I said, seven 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.080 is just a little too recent too, I think group 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.480 them into the conversation. All right, So we're not counting 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.680 this season, So Kenny, Maury, Kenny, Murray, Riley and Marissa 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.560 and Joe and Serena don't count. Okay, I'm good with that. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.040 So we have Dylan and Hannah who are still engaged. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.720 Do you know if they're planning? Are you friends with Dylan? 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:47.960 Are they like planning a wedding? I think so. Dylan, Um, 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.480 he's he's a bit of an uh an anomaly. Is 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.120 that the word I'm looking for? Yeah, he's he's a 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.240 weird guy. I like him a lot though. Oh he's yeah, 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:55.760 he's a nice guy. Um, but yeah, I'm sure they're 0:15:55.760 --> 0:16:00.600 planning something. Astrid and Kevin, who are in gauge but 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.480 are I just had a kid, so I'm assuming they're 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.160 planning to still get married. Oh um, congratulations to Kevin 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:12.200 and Astrid by the way, sure, Uh yeah, anyway, I 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.520 digress Number six on this list Dean anglerd and Kaylin 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.760 Miller Keys. Look at that. Look at that young Dylan Dylan. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.280 Look at that young Dean face right there. Oh yeah, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.640 that's why did you go Hannah Dylan as Kevin and 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.720 then me and Kaylin? You went season six to season five. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.360 I know, I'm sorry, I'm literally I'm just on what 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:35.360 article in my on Pure Wow the fifteen. Uh so 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.360 they're just going through bachelor and paradise couples who are 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.720 still together. I don't think there's really any rhyme or 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.680 reason as to why you guys are before or after them. Cool. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.400 I thought you were the one using the order, so 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.040 that makes sense, thinks you know what's cool? It says, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.440 you know, it gives like the next couple is you 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.440 and Kalin obviously, and it gives a status on everybody. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.840 For example, it says engaged for Dylan and Hannah, gauge 0:16:54.880 --> 0:17:00.800 for Kevin and Astrid, status married question mark. So even 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.200 this uh pure Wow doesn't know if you guys are 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.080 actually married or not. We love to keep it a mystery, baby, 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.359 it says. Dean low Key confirmed that he's a married 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.320 man during a promo for the Lovebirds movie. That was 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.800 Oh yeah, you were there with me. They told me 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.160 to say something about my wife or that I was married, 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.560 and I was like, yeah, sure, I'll say it. Why not, Yeah, 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:27.320 that'll be fun. Cool, let's do it. Um. Adam and 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:32.399 Raven obviously just married Adam. Raven is pregnant, so they're 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.280 doing very well, it seems, which is exciting to hear. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.760 The next couple on this list, Jared and Ashley. Oh 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.600 you guys, that's you. That's look at me. That's how 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.119 are they doing? They're doing all right. That was a 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.240 picture of me with my shirt off in Bachelor Paradise 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.560 season two when I had abs. Those were good days. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.840 Oh my gosh, it's funny. Jason Tardik posted a throwback 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.800 photo of like him and me and a couple other 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.840 guys in Vegas, like a couple of years ago, and 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.240 just saying like how he wished he could be at 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.000 Ben's wedding, but he in it and we were all shirtless, 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.080 and I was like, I literally had a six pack, 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:11.080 and that concept just seems so foreign to me right now. Mhmm, yeah, man, 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.359 it sucks like just four one out for the homies, 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:18.240 all six of them. Umm, Jaden Tanner married. No inside scoop. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.920 They're they're doing very well, very happy, three kids, beautiful kids. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.600 Emmy is just I love Emmy so much. I love 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.680 Brooks and Read too, obviously, but we have a very 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.960 close connection with that mean, she's the best. Uh. Evan 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:34.639 and Carly, that's an interesting one because I think that 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.480 they're not together still. Like I knew that they were 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:42.639 trying to work things out, and I I don't know 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.520 where the relationship stands now. I gotta be honest. I 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.800 think that they're not together still, And because then didn't 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.960 they announced they were finally. Yeah, in December two, the 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.200 couple announced that they're calling it quits. So I don't 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.320 think there's I think they're still not together. I mean, listen, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:00.840 if I was car really, I wouldn't want to be 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.400 with Evan either, So I totally get where she's coming from. 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.280 That's right, I forgot about you guys. Had that feud 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.960 well very imaginary. I'm just kidding. Evan seems like a 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.280 nice guy. I just gotta keep the feud alive. So, Evan, 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.920 you're definitely not listening to this. If you are listening 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:15.520 to this, d m Evan and tell him I always 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.240 talking a lot of crap about him on the Help 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.680 I Suck a Dating podcast? Is that it for the 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.440 couples that are together, because now all the rest of 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.280 the couples are ones that got together but are no 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.280 longer together, like, for example, in the next couple is 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.560 Chris and Crystal, which is really sad because I think 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.399 that's the only divorce in Bachelor Nation as of right now, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.040 because I don't think Evan and Carley are officially divorced yet. 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.760 I don't know yet. Um well, yeah, I mean it 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.080 sounds like they're well I guess maybe just Bachelor Paradise 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:44.680 is more recent than Oh, I guess that's not because 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:50.680 like Tasia, Katie Claire, who else? Like I'm just naming Peter, 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.080 I'm just naming leads that have been on the show 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:57.640 since both of us have been in relationship. I miss book. 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.320 I didn't mean. I didn't mean what I said. I 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:00.840 think you just have more time to spend with another 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.040 person on Bachelor in Paradise. See you kind of know 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:04.639 what you're getting yourself into a little bit better than 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.080 you do on the Bachelor and Bachelorette. But I guess 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.880 I got some questions for you about the breakups specifically, 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.960 so as we talked about a little bit, Tatian and 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.760 Zach broke up, Katie and Blake broke up. What do 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.360 you think lays ahead for all four of those individuals? 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:26.160 Like I could see Tasha dating um, like I don't 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:30.600