1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Now get ready for another 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: episode of Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. The thoughts 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts and opinions only, 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: and do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a Out, employees of 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: premier networks or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: to do the proper amount of research yourself, depending on 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: the subject matter and your needs. You are listening to 10 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with Me, Heidi Hollis on the I 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M Paranormal Podcast Network. 12 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to my show from member each week, this is 13 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: the place you go to hear about your stories, what's 14 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: going on out there in the world of the mysterious, 15 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: the paranormal, anything and everything out of the ordinary that 16 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: is going on. This is the pulse of it all. 17 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: I try to take in whatever it is that you 18 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: guys are experiencing and filter it through the filter that 19 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: we all have, placing our own contemplations, placing our own 20 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: opinions or insights. And I've been researching and exploring strange 21 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: topics for a very long time, and I've written several 22 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: books on everything from angels to aliens, trying to get 23 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: to the bottom of what's going on, what are these 24 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: different layers that we experience and why? And of course 25 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: my specialty of shadow people and hat Man. No one 26 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: can say on this green and blue and polka dotted 27 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: earth that they have discovered, named and coined to whole 28 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: paranormal phenomena out there in the world. No one but 29 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: that's me got him trademarked. But does it really make 30 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: a difference. Well, let's talk about that today, because boy, 31 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: oh boy, I've been getting a lot of messages and 32 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: emails from people just like yourself who are observant in 33 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: this world of the pure normal and realizing where have 34 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: I heard the topic of shadow people from? Huh? Where 35 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: did the hat Man phenomena get presented to the world? 36 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, man, I am once again at this very 37 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: very strange position of having to tell people the latest 38 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: that's out there when it comes to television, film, uh, anime, 39 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: video games, books, all on this work that I've been 40 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: working on for more than two decades. It's not my 41 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: work or they aren't my projects. I should say, yes, 42 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: they took it from me. Um, they got the information 43 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: from my work, but these are not my projects. I'm 44 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: getting people saying, did you put that out there? I mean, wow, 45 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: you're just everywhere. I'm like, yeah, my work is everywhere, 46 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: and yeah it's trademarked and protected. But yeah, not not 47 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: getting that that that slap of my name with it 48 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: or anything. And I'll tell you a lot of times, 49 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: these different productions, they'll reach out to me and what 50 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: not to and be like, hey, um, we know this 51 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: came from you so and I'm like, yeah, it's trademarked, copywritten, 52 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: all that good stuff. So what's what are you reaching out? 53 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: Are you asking for permission? Oh no, no, we're gonna 54 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: make this thing. Oh you're going to make something great, 55 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: it's protected. How do you want to work together? Oh no, see, 56 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: we're going to make this thing. They're telling me they're 57 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: going to be making something. So guys, I understand. There's 58 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: a new series that's out and there are several of 59 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: them actually, and they're touching on subjects that I cover. 60 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: I've put my blood, sweat and tears into and I 61 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: still do on a very very big scale. Personally, No, 62 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm not the one profiting off from all of that. Um. 63 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: So it's it's been a weird time over these years. 64 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you guys a little bit 65 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: how this started. Um. You know, I have been essentially 66 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: hoofing it straight out of college and still in college, 67 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: packing as many friends as I could into a van 68 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: and going to conferences I wasn't invited to speak at, 69 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: renting a table with my little self published book, and 70 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: doing my best to warn people of the problem that 71 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: is about to strike in the homes across the world. 72 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, it was really interesting because the challenge was, well, 73 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm not invited to speak, I'm here, what am I 74 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: gonna do? Well, open mic time is what I did. 75 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: And I think I've mentioned it here a couple of 76 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: times at least. So open mic time. It gets up 77 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: on the stage, starts talking, and uh, you know, the 78 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: audience very receptive people who put on these conferences. Not 79 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: always it was like who is this little girl? Who's 80 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: this getting up there talking? And I wouldn't stop. And 81 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: then uh, George Norri was very generous and gracious and 82 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: gave me a platform to talk and talk. I did 83 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: for the past two decades. Literally not a little girl. Um. 84 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: But one thing that I think a lot of people 85 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: don't realize. Again, you know, women don't get the recognition 86 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: always for doing something unique or different, and not always 87 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: either when it comes to those who are minority, and 88 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: a lot of times people overlook that fact. I'm both, 89 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: and um, it's given me different challenges. Now, why would 90 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: somebody just keep stepping on what's clearly and knowingly somebody 91 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: else's material and just keep doing it anyways, reaching out 92 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: to me, even letting me know. I have signed books, 93 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: two producers that say thanks, I'm going to go make 94 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: a film now. I'm like, you can't, that's my work, 95 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: and they did it anyways. So yeah, it has been 96 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: something else. And I'll tell you what's really really aggravating 97 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: to me is I get folks who reach out and say, hey, 98 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: that film that you did, they said this, and it's 99 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: supposed to go this way, and I tried it, and 100 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, now this thing is even more angry, and 101 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not my it's not my phone. Uh 102 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know what they've said fully 103 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: in these things. Only to know that people are referring 104 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: to me about it and thinking I did this, Like 105 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: this is causing harm out there. It's not something that's 106 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: for sheer entertainment to strike horror into the hearts of people. 107 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: What's important is it is a phenomenon and there is 108 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: a way and there is a method to push through this, 109 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: and you know, one way or another, and with the 110 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: help of people like yourself who inform me of all 111 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: of this going on out there one way or another, 112 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to take it up with some 113 00:07:54,080 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: folks to get this cleared, um, because it does harm, 114 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: and it harms myself and it harms me to even 115 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: know some of this stuff that's going on out there. UM. 116 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: And you know, it's nothing that I would even go 117 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: looking for personally, Like I'm not going to sit there 118 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: and do a search on hat Man movies or Shadow 119 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: People movies, because I would think that people would have 120 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: decency to reach out all the time, but they don't always, UM, 121 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: But sometimes they do, and I would think the warning 122 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: would stop them, but no it does not. UM. So yeah, 123 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: it's been crazy, and it's like, you know, people have 124 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot of personal experiences and and things out there. 125 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: I understand. UM, it's it's been quite the ride. Um. 126 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm aware of quite a few new series 127 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: and films that are referencing various things, and uh, you know, 128 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your opinions of about it. Please 129 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: do write me, let me know what's going on. What 130 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: are what are your thoughts on what's going on out 131 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: there and diluting and entertaining folks with the horror and 132 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: the threat upon the very lives and souls of many 133 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: of you who have experienced these things. How do you 134 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: feel about it being made into entertainment just to give 135 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: the US and OZ about it. I'm really really curious 136 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: because I'm very protective of people who have gone through 137 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: some of the things that I've personally gone through and 138 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,359 Speaker 1: I had new where to turn. I'm seeing and experiencing 139 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: something that I know is wrong and horrifying and harming, 140 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: and then to see it going after friends, family, co workers, 141 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: anybody who was in touch with me, and to now 142 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: have it be put out as oh, this is the 143 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: good time, everybody, let's go get our popcorn and woo. 144 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'd like to if I have my wish 145 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: in my dream, I'd like to put together something that 146 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: actually addresses the attack, the phenomenon, and how to take 147 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: it down and to hand it the mic se could 148 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: drop it on their head, because taking the stuff down 149 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: is what is the deal for me, the fear of 150 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: the horror. Yeah, the stuff is real. Stuff is going on. 151 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: That's important for people to know that. That is a 152 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: big part of it. But there is a very very 153 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: good possibility that we can take the steps on our 154 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: own to kick it out the door and out of 155 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: our lives. Sometimes there are those other possibilities where people 156 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: are met with so much horror that it's made too 157 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: much of a dent and too much of a market. 158 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: We might need help from others. There's no shame in 159 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: that we don't always know what's going on. I didn't 160 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: know what I was experiencing. I didn't know what was 161 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: going on. Luckily for me, I was able to find 162 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: a route get some help from powers that be higher 163 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: ups not quite part of this planet. Uh and uh, 164 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: godly inspiration with some encounters with Jesus. I mean, I'm 165 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: always very out of it to say about the topic 166 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: of Jesus and people like, oh, here she goes again. 167 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about the devil hat man for 168 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: crying out loud. There she goes again. Yeah, I've talked 169 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: about the devil because that's what he is and that's 170 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: what he says. And if you didn't hear my other 171 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: show speaking of hat Man and who he really is 172 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: and the name I know he has, oh, you have 173 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: got to tune in to the episode called number eleven. 174 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: It says the big reveal, and it is a big reveal. 175 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: But his name is Ariman. If you don't know that name, 176 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,479 Speaker 1: you will after you listen to that and Rudolph Steiner's 177 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: work on it just mind blowing. I would recommend listening 178 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: to episode number eleven and also episode number fifteen about 179 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: the eighth Sphere. 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You are listening 216 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the 217 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal 218 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: podcast network. Just before the break, I was discussing all 219 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: of these multitude of shadow people and hat Man television, film, 220 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: anime book projects, all these different things that are going on, 221 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: and they're not lying. Okay, Yes it's my material. Yes 222 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: it's my work. Yes it's all mine. Yes it's trademark, 223 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Yes it's copywritten. People do crappy things out there, Okay. Um, 224 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: so hey, I appreciate all of you that reach out, 225 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: and I welcome still keep the emails and messages coming. 226 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate it because the heads up. It's interesting to me, 227 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: and it's infuriating, and I think it's harmful to not 228 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: just myself, reputation, and the people who are experiencing these things. 229 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: It's hurtful soul wise for a lot of different reasons. 230 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: And it's not always easy to express and explain that. 231 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: But for those of you who know my background, who 232 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: know the work that I've put into all of this stuff, um, 233 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: and the warning that comes with all of the work, Um, 234 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: there's a big problem out there. It's a huge problem. 235 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope to do a project that corrects 236 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the things that have been set out there, 237 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the projects that have been done just 238 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: for the thrill and yeah, you know, to say what 239 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: parts do they get right and what parts don't they 240 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: After twenty plus years, Um, I haven't been looking at 241 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: these things. I tend to trip up into them myself, 242 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of you who are reaching out, and 243 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, are you serious? It should just really 244 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: throw that in there. Wow. Um, So yeah, I don't 245 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: anticipate it. Um. I don't go searching for it either, 246 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: because I just silly me. I suspect people will respect 247 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: trademarks and copyrights, but no, they don't. Um, it's been terrible. 248 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: It's been terrible. Um. But you know what, there's a 249 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: process of things and uh, you know, God willing the 250 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: right message will be put out there. Um. So with 251 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: the right people looking for the right people, well we'll 252 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: see what happens. Um. You know. I wanted to uh 253 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: address also what I was saying in the last segment 254 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: that the problem with this whole thing shadow people happen? 255 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: What is this thing? What's going on? We live in 256 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: the solid world, right, we're here. I'm sitting in a 257 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: nice chair. It's a gaming chair. Um, I'm sitting at 258 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: a nice desk. It's nice and glass and pretty things 259 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: on the walls, my comics, Um, I have you know, 260 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I have a pretty good grip on this reality myself. 261 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: And and then something walks through the wall. Okay, something 262 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: walks through the wall, and I'm like, like you what 263 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: did that just happen? What is going on? All day? 264 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: I thought I knew this reality and then something just 265 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: comes along and does that. What is going on here? Now? 266 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: Imagine that thing that walks the wall can take it's 267 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: fist and go into your chest and pull at something 268 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: that feels funny that I don't know. It feels like 269 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: your soul and then it pulls your soul of you 270 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: to its face and it laughs and it says, where's 271 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: your God now? So, yeah, if I tend to talk 272 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: about the devil hat Man air them on. If I 273 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: talk about that guy, I'm going to talk on the 274 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: positive in Hallo Jesus Christ. For me, I don't know 275 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: what others feel could be their warrior to take on 276 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: something so utterly evil, But that's for everybody to decide 277 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: for themselves. So we are waging a war book of revelations. 278 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: Everybody's like, oh, the end of the world's coming. We 279 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: are in so much trouble right now, and yeah, this 280 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: is this world is pretty awful right now, but guess what, 281 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: it's been through some awful things in the past, and 282 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: we always seem to pull through, not always better, but 283 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: we struggle, and then we get a little bit further ahead, 284 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: and then we get another war, and then you know, 285 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: and another plague or something happens, meteorite hit, some dinosaurs die, 286 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: a lot of horrible things that happened to this planet. 287 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: The planet persists, but the people, what about the people? 288 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: A lot of technology has been lost in the past, 289 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: We've we've learned that Atlantis, right, what we're talking about, 290 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: what's this rumor of Atlantis whatever? This this aliens visiting 291 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: that the government is suddenly coming forward to say, oh, yeah, 292 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: by the way, that's real. Oh thank you, Mr government man, 293 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: for helping me to realize what my own eyes have 294 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: already seen. And I've been talking about forever. What's the 295 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: difference between a guy in a fancy building and a 296 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: fancy suit sitting in Washington, d C. And the dude 297 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: sitting on his couch with his laptop propped on his belly. 298 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: What's the difference. None, We can decipher for ourselves what 299 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: this reality is. That's it, and we have to trust ourselves, 300 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: so we don't need an official dude in a suit 301 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: to say, hey, dude over there on the couch, your 302 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: eyeballs were correct, abundo. And you know how you have 303 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: those scars and those things that happened to you and 304 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: all those things that you've been saying, You know how 305 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: you divided your family and your beliefs because you know 306 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: that you've been adducted by aliens, or you've had a 307 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: lot of contact, or you're hunting big foot. You know 308 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's true. Yeah, we just decided to 309 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: have a conscience whoopded you? You know, So I'm sorry. 310 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: I've got I've got this thing against the slough, inclined 311 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: to them to want to tell us a little bit 312 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: a bit of information that we have known for a 313 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: very long time. But anyways, getting back to shadow people 314 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: hat man stuff, there is a threat. It is such 315 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: a threat that I stutter in my mind on how 316 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: best to push this forward, because it's that big of 317 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: a deal. Is that important people's souls are being threatened. 318 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: I don't find that very entertaining. I find it very, 319 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: very disheartening. I find it very devastating. I love the 320 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: fact that people are reaching out to me and trusting 321 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: me with their stories and seeking any kind of insight 322 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: on these topics, because sitting alone and dealing with it 323 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: alone is never healthy or good. Because these negative things, 324 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: whether they're negative alien beings or or these demonic creatures 325 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: or the devil, they like to isolate people. So we 326 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: have got to talk, we have got to reach out, 327 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: and I encourage people to do that. I have a 328 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: website called paranormal pledge dot com. Or you raise your 329 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: right hand essentially and say look, I'm gonna at least 330 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: tell one person about what it is that I've experienced. 331 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: And I've got a group on Facebook as well called 332 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: Paranormal Pledge, So I encourage you to join. It's easy 333 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: conversational stuff because we have got to take that pledge. 334 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: We've got to. I mean, we can't sit here alone. 335 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: Do you think the government Do you think the government, 336 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: out of the kindness of their souls, got a conscience 337 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: to say they're going to put this stuff out there 338 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: just because No, it's because of people like you, like me, 339 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: like the guy down the street, like the lady and 340 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: the hair salon. We've been talking about what has been 341 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: going on in our lives. We shared, we spoke, we researched, 342 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: we held conferences, we had get togethers, We formed all 343 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: of these cool groups all over the country, and then 344 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: we went online. We have been harping away saying, when 345 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: are you guys in the fancy suits just going to 346 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: cough it up already? So again, when it comes to 347 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: the paranormal, when it comes to these especial actually these dark, 348 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: demonic pieces of crap, we have got to start talking. 349 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: We got to talk more about it. Memes and all 350 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, I get it. It helps to spread 351 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: messages and it helps to help others connect the dots, honestly, 352 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: it does. But there's got to be these these deeper, 353 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: longer conversations about well, why do you think that thing 354 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: looked at you? Why did it come closer? Why was 355 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: it even allowed to rip your soul from your body? 356 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: What's going on? Why did it get so close? There 357 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: could be good and it could be bad reasons. Whatever 358 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: it is, it is helpful to figure it out. Is 359 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: it always necessary? Not always, but sometimes? Yeah, And again 360 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: the topic of Erman happen in. I've just connected the 361 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: two that this is what is going on, that this 362 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: is Arman, somebody something that was rumored a hundred years 363 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: ago by Rudolf Steiner to be rearing his ugly head 364 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: at this time. And when I saw the sculpture of Ariman, 365 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: I knew it was hat Man. Didn't know the story 366 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: behind it, like whoa who did a sculpture of hat Man? 367 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: And to have this a hundred year mystery ago? What? 368 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: And the two are one and the same. So to 369 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: have this guy showing up the way that he does, 370 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: the way he has been for some time, and to 371 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: be picking the pace up the way that he is. 372 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: We have really got to be better about protecting ourselves, 373 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: protecting those around us, and realizing the game what is 374 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: Erman about. He is about creating a false reality, virtual reality, 375 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: a false place that souls go to, so they're not 376 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: quite recycling and reincarnating the way they're supposed to. Some 377 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: of the things that I experience and people that experience 378 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: very spiritual things and whatnot that shouldn't be so rare 379 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: out of the ordinary, should be actually more commonplace and 380 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: more understood and more accepted. And that's part of the 381 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: limitations that can place by this Aramon guide too. So 382 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: let's get their number and let's show them the door. 383 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: Realized that the power of the human potential is something else, 384 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: Otherwise it wouldn't come like a thief in the night. 385 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: All right, up next, we are going to get to 386 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: your emails. I've got some doozies you guys are going 387 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: to really really find interesting and I hope it's helpful. 388 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: All Right, you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 389 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis and the I Heart Radio and Coast 390 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: to Coast am Carenibal Podcast Network, and we will be 391 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: right back. 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That's 433 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am dot com. Welcome back. You are 434 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on 435 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast am Paranamal 436 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: podcast network. Just before the break, I've mentioned how we 437 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: are going to tackle some of your emails, and wow, 438 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: I've got some major ones that have been sent in 439 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: that are rather in depth. And again, I welcome you 440 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: to go to Heidi Hollis dot com and send me 441 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: an email detail as much as you'd like saying what 442 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: you're experiencing, from angels to aliens, shadow people to hat man. 443 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: All of it is welcome, even if you just want 444 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: to share, if you want some insight, that's what this 445 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: show is all about, all right, So this one says 446 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: Hi Heidi. I first tried to call in about my 447 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: experience on October. I was able to call to Coast 448 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: to Coast on February five to talk to George Nori 449 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: on the air. Love George. He asked me a few 450 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: questions and then referred me to you because of your 451 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: expertise in this area. Well, thanks, George. The reason I 452 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: reach out is that I heard a woman talking about 453 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: shadow people on his show sometime last year, and when 454 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: she started to describe the entity that she saw. It 455 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: gave me the chills because she was describing something that 456 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: I saw in my house many times when I was 457 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: around eight years old. I only told the story to 458 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: a few people. My mother knew because she became upset 459 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: that I would come into her room every night, but 460 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't something that we mentioned or spoke about after that, 461 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: and she passed away in It has taken me a 462 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: while to write you because it is an experience that 463 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: I try to suppress and don't want to think about. 464 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: They were the most frightening times and feelings I have 465 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: ever felt. Although I am much braver and more courageous 466 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: at forty years than I was at that time, the 467 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: memory affects me in ways still. For example, since those 468 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: nights at eight years old, I have never been able 469 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: to be asleep in a house that has no lights. 470 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: Oddly enough, though I have come to enjoy nighttime, I 471 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: also have wanted to write you when it is light 472 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: outside because it makes me nervous to think that if 473 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: I even think about the entities that I would make 474 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 1: myself noticed and receive unwanted attention. I would like to 475 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: copy and paste the email I sent to George that 476 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: evening instead of breaking it all down again right now, 477 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: I used a different name on air, and the producer 478 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: Tom helped pick the name Gladys, and that's the name 479 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: I'll use. No worries. I mean, it is the strangest 480 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: experience ever, and it happened to me for many nights 481 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: on end. It felt like weeks. I remember it all 482 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: so vividly, like it happened yesterday. I just want to 483 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: know why the two shadowy figures came to me and 484 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: what was their intention. They watched me from my bedroom 485 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: door for hours during the night, and I'm surprised I 486 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: did not lose my mind and end up in a 487 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: psych ward. Now that I look back, I might not 488 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: be so lucky today. Thank you for your time and 489 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: I would love to communicate further with you as to 490 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: how I can expand in the experience and know a 491 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: little more about your theory of what they are. I 492 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: am very much into spirituality, grew up a Methodist. Now 493 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: I am non denominational Christian and do believe there are 494 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: many layers or planes all coexisting simultaneously. So here's the 495 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: email with my spelling corrections, a summary. I hope to 496 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: find some peace of mind with your help. I never 497 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: thought anyone else had seen what I did those nights 498 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: at eight years old. I have other memories of it also, 499 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: but I wanted to finally get the message to you know. 500 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: It's so so wild, how so many people are realizing, 501 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: all the years later, there's somebody out there who's experience 502 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: what I have. I had no idea, guys, that others 503 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: were experiencing anything when I put my book out, The 504 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: Secret War. So it's always fascinating to me when people 505 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: like Gladys here has come to realize they weren't alone 506 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: this whole time. Alright, So gladysas email says, Hi, I'm Gladys, 507 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: and I had a frightening experience when I was around 508 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: eight years old. I woke up every night to thirty 509 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: or three am to see two shadowy looking silhouettes peering 510 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: in my room. Scariest thing in my life. I still remember. 511 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: The one on the left look like Abraham Lincoln to me, 512 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: tall and slender with a hat. Maybe the one on 513 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: the right, for some reason, reminded me of Marcus Garvey. 514 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: Why I thought that at eight years old, I don't know. 515 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: It happened for what seemed like weeks. My mom stopped 516 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: allowing me to come into a room after I woke 517 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: one night, I was lying on her floor, looked under 518 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: the door and saw two red eyes staring at me 519 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: from the other side. I kid you not. I am 520 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: still affected by this and haven't told anyone because I 521 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: didn't want anyone to be afraid to come to my house. 522 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what made it all go away. Finally, 523 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: thanks Gladys Well, Gladys, I appreciate you taking the time 524 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: to write George and then myself trying to seek answers, 525 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of people have similar situation as yourself. 526 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: They saw these things peeking in at them, had this 527 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: horrible feeling of being watched, only to find them being 528 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: the culprits. But then you got that extra added ikey 529 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: factor to look under the bedroom door. Oh I got 530 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: chills and seeing glowing red eyes peering back at you 531 00:35:53,800 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: no fun. Oh man, that is a characteristic of shadow people. 532 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: And yes, hat man, so I'm not surprised that you 533 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: would see their true ugliness. You said that you felt 534 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: the one looked like Abraham Lincoln and the other as 535 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey. I had a look up who Marcus Garvey is. 536 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: Of course, I know who Abraham Lincoln is. Um, but 537 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey. So he was a Jamaican political activist, publisher, journalist, entrepreneur, 538 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: and orator. And he was a founder and first president 539 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: general of the Universal Negro Improvement Association and African Communities League. Okay, 540 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: that's according to Wikipedia. And so he is a black 541 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: guy with the beard, and he has this general like 542 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: hat he tends to wear. Okay, Um, I don't know 543 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: if it was the hat or that he was a 544 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: black man. I'm not sure what made you feel it 545 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: looked like him or not. Um but Abraham Lincoln. Now, 546 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: on my book the hat Man I have on the 547 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: back of the book, I have a rendition of hat 548 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: man with a top hat and a long trench coat 549 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: or cape. Sometimes he wears two. But on the back 550 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: of the book I had him with the top hat 551 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: because that is the second more common hat he prefers, 552 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: and interesting enough, when he has the hat, he tends 553 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: to wear a cape. When it's a top hat. When 554 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: he has his zoro like gaucho hat, he tends to 555 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: wear a trench coat. And some people are like, well 556 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: are they one and the same? Are they exactly the same. Now, 557 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 1: I've had people tell me hat Man, you know, he's 558 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of in the shadows. Sometimes he steps out of 559 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: the shadows, and when he does, he smiles ear to ear, 560 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: and the same type of description, the same type of feel, 561 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: the same type of ominous presence, with the same abilities 562 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: and the same patterns. So I tend to think, yeah, 563 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: because he doesn't always wear a hat either. Uh he 564 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: doesn't always have glowing red eyes. Sometimes they're solid black 565 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: if you see his skin. So it's interesting to me 566 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: that he is still he hangs around with the same 567 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: type of crowd. I don't know who this Marcus Garvy 568 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: guy is, um if that hat was something different or what. 569 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: But hat Man tends to have others work for him. 570 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: He does, and uh, so I'm not surprised that there 571 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: was somebody else or something else standing with him. Sometimes 572 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: this grim reaper looking thing stands with him, or sometimes 573 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 1: it's the old Hag, or sometimes it's just a troop 574 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: of shadow people. So he tends to have his minion 575 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: that work with him, but he always seems to be 576 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: the one in charge, unfortunately. But it's just interesting to me, 577 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: and I know I've said it here but the hat, 578 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: the top hat, and the grin in the teeth or 579 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: the eyes. Is he clean shaven or not? Um? Yeah, 580 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: these things can help or confuse a person to be 581 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: curious if it's the same dude or not. But you 582 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: wanted to know why he was possibly there hanging out 583 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: with this Marcus Garvey looking dude. And there are no 584 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: clear answers. I don't know what was going on in 585 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: your life at that time. Was somebody sick, is anybody depressed? 586 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: Did your family renovate the house? Did you just move there? 587 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of different things that when people 588 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: write me is so very helpful to hear all of 589 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 1: the details of what was taking place at the time 590 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: when these things popped up. There can be triggers. It's 591 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: like a flag that's like hello, come visit me. Gladys 592 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: is right here. Um, so it's it's odd, but yeah, 593 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: there could be triggers. And other times it could just 594 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: be that your light was too bright, your personal self 595 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: were too bright, and it attracted like flies to a flame. 596 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: They want to see, well, who is this, Let me 597 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: fill them out, let me see what's going on here. 598 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: And you know you said that you're raised methodist, and 599 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: that makes you spiritual, it makes you Christian. So it's 600 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: interesting I mentioned this too. Oftentimes we tend to say spiritual. 601 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: I used to say spiritual because it just felt less 602 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: quote religious. And it's like, if you believe in the 603 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: one faith that makes you this, that makes you that. 604 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: So I think it's good and wise to stand behind 605 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: exactly how we feel versus this global accepting title ways 606 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: of being quote spiritual, so as not to insult or 607 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: seem weird or too religious, because nowadays, these dark things 608 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: are placing bets on us to not stand behind where 609 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: we are. So I understand the fear you still have. It. 610 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: This happens because you saw something out of your reality, 611 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: So it is definitely going to put a dent in 612 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: how do you sleep? 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Just before the break, when we were 643 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: reading over a very fascinating email that was sent to 644 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast first, and then George Nor referred them 645 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: over to me. Very fascinating case. And again I'll say it. 646 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: I always have some source of light on because I 647 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: personally know these dark things do not like light figuratively 648 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: or actually does it absolutely ward them off? No? Does 649 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: it help? Yeah? And it also helps me to be 650 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: able to spot them out because I don't like surprises. 651 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: It's weird. I don't jump, I don't scream because I've 652 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: experienced so many things. I'm just like, I don't know. 653 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: I don't have a great startle response. Perhaps I need 654 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 1: to work on that. I don't know. Um, I guess 655 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: if it's fight or flight, I'll figure it out. But um, yeah, 656 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: So I understand. And there's no shame in having a 657 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: light on. In fact, it's something I recommend to people 658 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: to keep a light on somewhere close hitting your body 659 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: because these dark beings do not like it. They just don't. 660 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: Um So, anyways, continuing, so, I oftentimes I engage in 661 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: chat with folks on Facebook, Instagram. It doesn't matter, and 662 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: I will welcome it. So if you spot me, send 663 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: me a message, it's truly welcomed. If you want me 664 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: to address what it is that you've experienced, please submit 665 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: it through Heidi Hollis dot com so I can deal 666 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: with it more in detail here on the show. Uh So, yeah, 667 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: definitely welcome that. But sometimes I get into these conversa 668 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: nations with folks and things get brought up. And one 669 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: of them that got brought up that very disturbing to me. 670 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: And it's not the first time, it's not the second time. 671 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: It's been several times that I've had this brought up 672 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: to me. And you know, I like to find out 673 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: what causes a person to reach out to me. It's like, oh, well, 674 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: I googled man in a hat, or I googled shadow people, 675 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: or directly my name because somebody mentioned, uh, you know 676 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: where the two topics first got introduced to the world. 677 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: Um so, yeah, so I like to ask, you know, 678 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: how did you come across and uh So, I was 679 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: chatting with this person and they're like well, yeah, I've 680 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: experienced a lot of things. And and I was over 681 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: here and I was talking about these things, and I 682 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: was telling somebody else about your work. And then that 683 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: person said, this is after they said the name hat Man. 684 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: The person goes, that's what I saw. That's what he said. 685 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: His name was hat Man. Oh Man. I don't even 686 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: know how to put into words what it's like to 687 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: have something so utterly evil repeat the name that you 688 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: personally gave him, that you gave him. When I hear 689 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: these stories, it strikes me very oddly. It really does, 690 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I know he hears me. I know 691 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 1: he hates my guts. Feelings are mutual. I know these 692 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: dark things hate my guts too, and again, feeling it's mutual. 693 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: I take it as a compliment when they get angry. 694 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: But when they I don't know how to put that. 695 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how the words. It's not um, it's 696 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: an acknowledgement. When they acknowledge that I've done something that 697 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: is disturbing. Am I the one putting him on the map? 698 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: I have been trying to point the finger at him 699 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: to get people to wake up to his presence and 700 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: what he's doing. So if you move into a place 701 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: and you're a happy, go lucky family and all of 702 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, you guys are fighting, like just cats and dogs, 703 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: threatening things and doing things and horrible stuff, getting possessed. 704 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: Even ah, that that right there should give you a 705 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: sign that something's not right, especially if you start seeing 706 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: things out of the corner of your eye and you're like, hey, hey, hey, 707 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm experiencing here, but something's not right. 708 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: I feel something. Trust that gut, Trust that gut. It 709 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: is there for a reason. So I've and trying to 710 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: point the finger to the problem so we can all 711 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: overcome the problem. Not to worship it, not to glamorize it, 712 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: not to make the coolest video game on it or 713 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: totally exploited and have that just be the thing of 714 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: Ooze and oz. It needs to be respected. I mean, 715 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: different film franchises out there, they talk about spooky things 716 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: and specific things that are spooky as a way of 717 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: notifying people that this is going on and it really 718 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: did happen. There's a there's a different vibe when he 719 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: does this, when he brings up, hey, Hidi, heard you 720 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: called me this here. I'm going to tell them my 721 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: name is so and so. So you'll look up Heidi, 722 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: let them know I told you, or let her know 723 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: that I told you what my name was. Now he 724 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: used to go around saying his name was Scratch and 725 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: other funky names. He'd say Sam sometimes or whatever it is, 726 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: but scratches, of course, the old Norse term for the devil, 727 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: old scratch. So okay, he acknowledged what he was. You know, 728 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: in the beginning, when I started getting these crazy emails 729 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: of his presence, what he was doing, what he was saying, 730 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: how he was abusing people, people would always follow up 731 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: who is he with He's the devil, isn't he like? 732 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: Just say it? High he just say it, just say it, 733 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: just say it. So yeah, I put that he is 734 00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:01,240 Speaker 1: the devil. Now he's saying he's hat man. Now he's 735 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: he's going in this direction. Now I say, I want 736 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 1: to crash a wedding party. Okay, do I want anybody 737 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: there to recognize me, to say, hey, Heidi, you go 738 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 1: get out. You know, I know, I know who you are. 739 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: Just get out. I mean, he is stepping into people's 740 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: lives having the same m O and often same clothing 741 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: or something similar because he wants you to say you again, 742 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: you're here, you're the one threatening, You're the one causing 743 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 1: the chaos, and he's sitting there. That's right, it's me. 744 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: It's me. Point your anger at me, show me how 745 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: I make you feel, and make sure you're pointing it 746 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: right here. Don't go to the left. It's me to 747 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 1: do with the hat over here. Oh yes, give me 748 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: that fear now. People have been giving him this fear 749 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: for a long time. For I came along and spotted 750 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: him out and what he was doing to people. They've 751 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: been doing that for a long time. And I'm talking 752 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: this out while I'm you're on this show. So for 753 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: me to spot them out and to say, you've been 754 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: given him that fear already. But let's let's flip the 755 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: table a little bit. Let's throw it like the housewife. 756 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 1: Let's throw that table and say, ha ha, I know 757 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: how to get rid of you. I've seen you around here, 758 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: I know what you've been up to. But I'm a 759 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: sprinkle a little Jesus on you. How about that? It 760 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: instead of fear, it's defiance, it's faith, and it's having 761 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 1: no doubts in those things. Okay, So sometimes I get 762 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: people saying Are you sure you're not glorifying him? Oh? No, 763 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: that would be those who are making all these different projects. 764 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: Those are not mine. Okay, when mind comes out, you'll 765 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 1: hear me talking about it. Okay, but none of these 766 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 1: are mine. I hate to point out the track record 767 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: of the society ripping off people like myself, a lady minority, 768 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: but it is what it is. And to know that 769 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: these people who are doing it, no, they're doing it. 770 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: But I have to tell you we can put our 771 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: foot down. I could put my foot down and all 772 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: of these things moving in the positive, good direction can 773 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: turn it around. And that's what we all need to do. 774 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 1: That's what I need to do. So we've got to 775 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: turn these things around and make it for the better 776 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: in this world. So the right message is given to 777 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: hat Man, shadow people, demonic dark things like not going 778 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: to tolerate it, not going to tolerate the wrong message, 779 00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: the wrong anything. We know where we're going. I know 780 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: where I'm going. So let's keep that focus and let's 781 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: sprinkle positive light on the whole thing. It is so 782 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: utterly necessary, especially at this time. People are sick, people 783 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: are dying, people are losing their homes. It's a hard time. 784 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: I hear people saying, gosh, I hope it's the end 785 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,919 Speaker 1: of the world, because this place sucks right now. It's like, oh, 786 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: it sucked a lot worse before, and let's just hope 787 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: it's a time of change, because the time of changes 788 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot more important than doom. Okay, So we could 789 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: build this thing up, we could turn it around and 790 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: make it for the better. I think what would be 791 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: really really cool, and this is one of my goals 792 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: is to have these demonic things shadow people hat Man 793 00:53:52,560 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: fund building a better tomorrow. How about that things build 794 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: a better church to the light, that's my goal. How 795 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: about that? Well, that will really take him off. And 796 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, I can't say that I purposely try to 797 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: take him off, but I do a great pride, would 798 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: I do? Because you know when he tries to spin 799 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: it and he tries to say yes, send that back 800 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: to Heidi and let her know I'm taking the name on. 801 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 1: Oh well, buddy, keep it going, because I'm gonna point 802 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: it right back at you. And glorified got a little 803 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: bit more, so you'll just be a little bit more angry, dude. 804 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, so you guys come to the bottom of 805 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: another show. I hope you've enjoyed it as much as 806 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 1: I have. Please go to Heidi Hollis dot com send 807 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,760 Speaker 1: me anything out of the ordinary that you're experiencing, Questions 808 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 1: or comments, You're welcome to send it there. You have 809 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: been listening to Dark Becomes with me, Heidi Hollis on 810 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio at Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 811 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: Podcast Network, and we will catch you next time. Goodbye, everybody, 812 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 1: stay sick well. 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