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Speaker 2: You know, a little less than a week ago, Aaron Torres,

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Speaker 2: you and I were sitting in this studio saying, here's

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Speaker 2: the field of sixty eight. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: we'll be down to sixteen. We've got twenty four right now,

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Speaker 2: eight more games today, and I wonder after yesterday, is

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Speaker 2: today gonna be more chaos or are we gonna get

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Speaker 3: Great to be with you, Dan, It's interesting because this,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's some things that just become kind of

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Speaker 3: talking points, and I think, you know this one is accurate,

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Speaker 3: but you hear people say is like, you know, the

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Speaker 3: upsets are great and they give us the moments that

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Speaker 3: we remember, But do you really want a lot of

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Speaker 3: upsets because then you end up with the schools that

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Speaker 3: you never heard of, you know nothing about deep in

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Speaker 3: the tournament. Well, yesterday a one seed, three three two seeds,

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Speaker 3: and a three seed and two three seeds advance. So

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Speaker 3: we've had largely chalk into the sweet sixteen. Obviously a

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Speaker 3: lot coming today.

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Speaker 2: should be. Now, there are three one seeds playing today,

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Speaker 2: but to your point of what you're saying, of the

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Speaker 2: top three seed lines, only one team has been ousted

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Speaker 2: so far, and that would be Kentucky losing to Oakland

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. And so there's another conversation that comes with it,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about this bracket. But for as much

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Speaker 2: as we criticized the committee, did they get the top

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Speaker 2: lines right considering how these teams have advanced so far?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they did, And you know, we talked

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Speaker 3: about this last Friday, last Sunday. I'm far from a bracketologist,

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Speaker 3: but I do think, you know, it was pretty clear

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Speaker 3: who those elite of the elite teams were and that

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Speaker 3: was kind of one of my takes coming into the tournament.

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Speaker 3: And we'll see if it fully holds to fruition. But

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Speaker 3: I said, I don't see a lot of seven seeds

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Speaker 3: and nine seeds in a lot Evan seeds advancing deep, deep,

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Speaker 3: deep into the tournament. I thought that upper tier, the Houston's,

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Speaker 3: the Iowa States, the Yukons, the North Carolinas, the Arizonas.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were cut above everybody else. Now again,

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Speaker 3: we still have eight games today, and if if if

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Speaker 3: Marquette loses this game to Colorado and Houston gets upset

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Speaker 3: and Purdue gets upset, then it'll be a completely different conversation.

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Speaker 3: But I I do think, uh, the large the large

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Speaker 3: chalk is not totally surprising to me, even though again

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Speaker 3: we always say that we expect certain things and then

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Speaker 3: when it ends up happening, we we have surprised.

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Speaker 2: I am curious obviously how this is all going to

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Speaker 2: play out.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: It is funny because I'm also an idiot, Aaron, and

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Speaker 2: on the heels of what you're no completely an idiot.

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Speaker 2: These were my thoughts a week ago when we sat

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Speaker 2: here on selection Sunday.

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Speaker 3: And seeing the bracket. Gosh, I love the SEC.

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Speaker 2: I I I they are gonna the SEC is gonna

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Speaker 2: show everybody that they are the conference where the action

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Speaker 2: was this season. You are going to see the SEC shine.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I had multiple brackets this year and had

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Speaker 2: one where I called an SEC bracket where three of

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Speaker 2: the four schools were from the SEC.

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Speaker 3: In the final four Okay, so that would have obviously

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Speaker 3: been Tennessee. I would assume, yep, that's that's one. Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: You I've hit the road, Jack, Kentucky, don't tell me

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Speaker 3: it was Auburn. It was Auburn.

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Speaker 2: Why everybody's gonna big Yukon, right, everybody's going to Big Yukon.

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Speaker 2: So let's have Auburn and the Sweet sixteen upset and

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Speaker 2: oh no, yes, oh yes, oh yes, not only that, Aaron,

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Speaker 2: Not only that? Am I an idiot on the bracket

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Speaker 2: in deciphering and how things worked through championship week? And

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna say, because you and I

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Speaker 2: have talked about this. I thought the bid Steelers were done.

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Speaker 2: NC State. I was fun. Your five game run in

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Speaker 2: the ACC tournament. That's not gonna last. Texas Tech, You're

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Speaker 2: Not gonna work here A ten maybe not the NCAA tournament, however,

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Speaker 2: went of those three. I did like Oregon to win

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Speaker 2: was completely off base a week ago as we sat here.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I you know, I've told you this throughout

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Speaker 3: believe In other words, if they've been inconsistent, trust that.

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Speaker 3: So because of it, you know, the bracket would be

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Speaker 3: looking pretty good. Except the one team that I talked

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Speaker 3: they got so much talent and they actually were pretty

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Speaker 3: good down the stretch. I mean, listen, let's not overreact

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Speaker 3: to that one loss in the SEC tournament. They won

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Speaker 3: They're a good team. They won't let me down this

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was good for him, right that loss is

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Speaker 3: And they learned how fragile march can be. They learned

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Speaker 3: if they don't show up ready to play in the

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Speaker 3: opening round, they could lose. Oh wait, they didn't show

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Speaker 3: up in the opening round to play. Jack Golkie went

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Speaker 3: of time because Cali Perry couldn't get his guys going.

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Speaker 3: Is that the story of the NCAA tournament so far?

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Speaker 2: Is it Kentucky or we or do we branch out

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's Kentucky. It's really a worst case

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Speaker 3: right where there's years where it's like, well Kentucky, like

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Speaker 3: So I think it's really two things. Is I think

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Speaker 3: that this was the loss that broke the camel's back.

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Speaker 3: just bring it up because I think, yes, that is

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Speaker 3: Because honestly, all the other top seeds are winning. It

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Speaker 3: isn't that other team to poke at. Now again, maybe

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Speaker 3: now it's Kentucky taking all the bullets, all the strays

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Speaker 3: for all the highly ranked teams that haven't been able

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Speaker 2: And my whole point on the cal stuff is, I

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Speaker 2: just who are you, who are you going to get fair?

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Speaker 3: Tell me, tell me that, tell me who would be better?

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Speaker 2: And I from everything that I've gathered, and again, you're

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Speaker 3: Heck, you have a you have a book out, don't you.

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Speaker 3: I mean that that's a book.

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Speaker 2: It's celebrating John Calipari and how great he is, author

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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres. So you're you're more locked in on Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: My point is just it's not the well, who are

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years hasn't been great tournament wise,

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Speaker 3: They finished second in the SEC, and everybody was saying

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Speaker 2: And as they said on Friday, if Golki doesn't you know,

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Speaker 2: it could be a completely different story. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Oakland fared very well yesterday against NC State. Another conversation,

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Speaker 2: I think that they help themselves, but with Kentucky's demise

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Speaker 2: I think that's team wise, game wise, that's the story

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Speaker 2: what you wish for. You even mentioned this, I think

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Speaker 2: and I'm sorry if I'm putting words in your mouth,

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Speaker 2: but you hear Kevin Wyart say Dusty May is going

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Speaker 2: a five year deal. No clue at all if that

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Speaker 3: And I know they are.

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Speaker 2: Shot away from going to the National Championship Game last year,

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Speaker 2: but you were also shot away from being ousted into

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Speaker 3: And I think if you know, we want to do

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Speaker 3: the Kentucky thing. I'll say this, I didn't see the

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Speaker 3: other people's mouths. But apparently on the College Game Day

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Speaker 3: somebody said there are only two people that are built

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Speaker 3: that got smeared all over the internet. I do think

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Speaker 3: the number of people that are actually built that fully

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Speaker 3: probably not gonna happen. The realistic name is probably Scott

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Speaker 3: Drew at Baylor, He's won a national championship. But Scott

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Speaker 3: Drew has never felt a single day of pressure like

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Speaker 3: he would the second that he walks into that Kentucky job.

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Speaker 3: The first day would be the greatest day ever. Let's

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Speaker 3: celebrate you now, it's how are you gonna get us

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Speaker 3: number nine? How are you gonna get us another championship?

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Speaker 3: We have been to a Final four in a decade.

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Speaker 3: And so the only point that I'm trying to make

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Speaker 3: which confirms what you're saying is I think there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of great coaches out there, but there are certain

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Speaker 2: tournament of the perfect recipe for a tournament. When you

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Speaker 2: have too many cinderellas, it's not interesting at the end,

432
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Speaker 2: But when you don't have enough cinderellas at the beginning,

433
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Speaker 2: doesn't reel you in to bring you into the end.

434
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Speaker 2: But there's something interesting that happened yesterday that I think

435
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Speaker 2: like fed both worlds. And it happened with Oakland. Oakland

436
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: being competitive, Oregon basically playing two on five in a

437
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: double overtime game against Creighton because it was a two

438
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Speaker 2: man show at the end for pretty much the second

439
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: half of the game against Creighton. All of that was

440
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Speaker 2: intriguing in Oakland more so than Oregon, just because we

441
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: know Oregon and it's such a name brand. But here's Oakland.

442
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: They play a competitive game and there's drama up and down,

443
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Speaker 2: and in the end it doesn't work out for AMNCI

444
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: State ends up pulling away in overtime. But to watch

445
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: a game and to watch Oakland hang around, to watch

446
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 2: them have an opportunity. They had the ball with eleven

447
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: seconds left, score tied at the end of regulation, and

448
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: we'ren't even even able to set up a play to

449
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Speaker 2: get a shot after a deflection and a replay. But

450
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Speaker 2: all of that, Aaron gets you involved, It gets you into,

451
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Speaker 2: It keeps you interested. I looked back at last year

452
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Speaker 2: and there were so many upsets that were going on.

453
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Speaker 2: We kind of lost track a little bit of what

454
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Speaker 2: was up and what was down because everybody was losing sure,

455
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,239
Speaker 2: left and right. But I also remember sitting down on

456
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Speaker 2: Saturday morning of the first game of the second round

457
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Speaker 2: and watching San Diego State just destroy Furman, and Furman

458
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: was the story of the first day because they had

459
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Speaker 2: the turnover against Virginia and then they hit the deep

460
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Speaker 2: three and we're all about Furman. We got zero from Furman,

461
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: and it's okay. I'm not blaming Furman at all for

462
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Speaker 2: their performance in the second round.

463
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Speaker 3: But Oakland gave.

464
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Speaker 2: Us something yesterday. So for those two and a half hours,

465
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Speaker 2: they provided us with more drama and more of a story.

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Speaker 2: And the games were good yesterday. Outside of Illinois Duquine,

467
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Speaker 2: I think everything was fairly competitive. I know North Carolina

468
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Speaker 2: ran away, but if I'm missing one, they were pretty

469
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Speaker 2: good games. But even if Cinderella loses, as long as

470
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Speaker 2: they're competitive, as long as they don't just completely fall

471
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Speaker 2: off the face of the earth, it provides for compelling basketball.

472
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Speaker 2: And I think that's what's good and that's what worked

473
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Speaker 2: out yesterday. And yeah, now we're headed into a sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Well we're gonna have some really good freaking matchups coming

475
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Speaker 2: up on Thursday.

476
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Speaker 3: And no, and not to change the subject, but you

477
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Speaker 3: know you mentioned Illinois, like you talk about a team

478
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Speaker 3: that all of a sudden, now it's like, you know,

479
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 3: we were on during the Big Ten championship game and

480
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Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, they're good, but they haven't really had

481
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Speaker 3: that run under Brad Underwood. Are they really that good?

482
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Speaker 3: Is the big ten down? No, They're awesome. Now they

483
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Speaker 3: play Iowa State, you know, we could be looking at

484
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Speaker 3: a potential North Carolina Arizona matchup in the Elite eight

485
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Speaker 3: in LA just down the street from where we are.

486
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Speaker 3: Arizona will play We'll play uh Baylor the winner Baylor

487
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Speaker 3: potentially yea. So so you just talk. By the way,

488
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Speaker 3: we have Creighton Tennessee is already set. So I'm excited

489
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Speaker 3: because and that's like, like I'll be honest, like I'm

490
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: supposed to go cover the West Regional Final or the

491
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: West Regional Tournament next Thursday night. But I'm like, you know,

492
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Speaker 3: if we get Iowa State Illinois already set, because that

493
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Speaker 3: East region with Yukon and you know, either Yale or

494
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 3: San Diego State, we could have a Yukon San Diego

495
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: State rematch. We could we will have Illinois Iowa State.

496
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Speaker 3: It's like, we got a lot of really good matchups.

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Speaker 3: And I am one, and I don't know if I

498
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Speaker 3: speak for you know, Joe Public here, but I am one.

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Speaker 3: I would much rather see Iowa State Illinois in the

500
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Speaker 3: Sweet sixteen for the right to go to the Elite

501
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Speaker 3: eight than have seen Illinois get upset by Morehead State,

502
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Speaker 3: and now we're talking about Morehead State playing in the

503
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Speaker 3: Sweet sixteen. If that makes yeah.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll also say this, for as great as Cinderella is,

505
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: when you don't it, when you're not on Cinderella's side,

506
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Speaker 2: Like if you picked Kentucky, not as much fun as

507
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: people want to make it be like everybody else, everybody

508
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: else loves it, but when it's your bracket, you're like,

509
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: this stinks, you know, like I can't even I can't

510
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: even cheer for the story of the tournament right now.

511
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Speaker 3: Well, and it's funny, you know. I came out as

512
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: a guest of the Odd Couple on Friday and they

513
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: asked me about the Kentucky situation. I said, look, you know,

514
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: I think every cliche is absolutely true here. It's a

515
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: great story in the moment, and it gives everybody a

516
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: national talking point that they can easily wrap their arms around.

517
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Speaker 3: I mean, even if Mark Quett lost or Iowa State lost,

518
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: nobody's got a tj Otselberger take in the holster ready

519
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: to go if Iowa State loses. But if Caliperry and

520
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: Kentucky lose, and so it's great in that moment, but

521
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: then I also think that you miss out on so

522
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: many more Calipari conversations over the course of the tournament,

523
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: like let's do the inverse like that twenty four hours

524
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: after Kentucky lost. It was great for content, But you

525
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: know what else would have been great for content? If

526
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: Cali Perry did take those freshmen two a final four,

527
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: we got three more games out of them. You know,

528
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: does it work? Were we all wrong? What about the freshman?

529
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Speaker 3: Now America knows who Rob Dillingham is, who Shepherd is,

530
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: could read Shepherd be the number one overall pick. So

531
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Speaker 3: it's a push pull balance. And I don't want to

532
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: keep going back to Kentucky because there's sixty seven other

533
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: teams in this tournament, twenty four teams left. But it's

534
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: like that's the perfect example of in the moment, it

535
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: feels like, oh, there's so much to talk about, but

536
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: it's like, you know how much more they would have

537
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: been talk about if we want him? Sorry, no, no,

538
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: just keep going. It's totally fine.

539
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: I was the point I was just gonna make was

540
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Speaker 2: Kyla Pari's one of the faces of this tournament. No

541
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Speaker 2: doubt completely is watching North Carolina Michigan State yesterday. I'm sorry,

542
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: Like North Carolina has been awesome for how long and

543
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: the legends that have coached there, But it's different when

544
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: it's Tom Izzo against Hubert Davis, like it David's you know,

545
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: if it's if it's a Roy Williams North Carolina team

546
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: now in twenty five years, if Hubert Davis is still there,

547
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: completely different story. But for so long we talked about

548
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: coaches dominating the headlines of college basketball because that's.

549
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: Who who we know, coach driven sport.

550
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that that was even reflected in

551
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: yesterday where I felt like there was even a little

552
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: bit more cachet despite North Carolina being the number one

553
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: scene and playing in Charlotte, because you have hey, January

554
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: February is oh yeah, look at what Michigan State did

555
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: in Mississippi, you know, and hack Michigan State had North

556
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: Carolina for a while in the first half. But that, like,

557
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: that's part of it, and Calipari does bring that if

558
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: they continue to advance. His face is still a part

559
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Speaker 2: of the dance.

560
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Speaker 3: Well, and it's funny. Two weeks ago, so before the

561
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Speaker 3: bracket came out J Martin and I came on right

562
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Speaker 3: after Yukon won the Big East Tournament, and I said,

563
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: is Dan Hurley becoming the face of college basketball? And

564
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know that I believe that, but

565
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: I can tell you in that Northeast corridor, Yukon fans

566
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: love him. Saint John's fans hate him because remember he

567
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: had the beef with the Saint John's fan that was

568
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: Patino's friend. Whatever. Seaton Hall fans don't like him, Providence

569
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: fans don't like him. He got into the little skirmish

570
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: with Creighton fans, and I was like, that's good for

571
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Speaker 3: college basketball. And I'm not saying this is the Yukon guy.

572
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: I think a deep tournament run where Dan Hurley's dropping

573
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: f bombs on the sidelines. And again I'll keep using

574
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: Joe Public, Joe Middle America, that Iowa State fan that's

575
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: never cared about Dan Hurley once in his life, you know,

576
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: or the Purdue fan or whoever that's like, you know,

577
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: that guy's kind of a jerk. And I say jerk

578
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: lovingly because I love having him as my coach. But like,

579
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: I think it'll be good for college basketball if Yukon

580
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: makes another run, don't have to win a national championship,

581
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Speaker 3: But where Dan Hurley is on that stage where some

582
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: fans will say, I love that fire, I love that energy.

583
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: I wish that was my coach, because I've gotten a

584
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: lot of that too as a Yukon fan. But I

585
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: also could see a lot of people saying, you know,

586
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: that guy's kind of a loud and he's a breat

587
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 3: and he's fighting with fans and he's doing and it's like,

588
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: that's what more of college basketball needs. And so again

589
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: it speaks to where we are with this turn.

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00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: You're right and Mark Few and you mentioned Scott and

591
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: Drew earlier have been around for now seemingly forever.

592
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: Yep, not necessarily.

593
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: We know who Mark Few and Scott Drew are, but

594
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Speaker 2: it's not Roy Williams, coach k Jim Beheim, Tom Izzo,

595
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: Ish Hurley can John Caliparius.

596
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hurley could carve out his pass well. And the

597
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: last thing too. It's why the Gonzaga thing is interesting

598
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Speaker 3: because for so many years they were so good number

599
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Speaker 3: one seeds and it was polarizing like, well they only

600
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Speaker 3: got the number one seed because they're in a bad league.

601
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Speaker 3: Blah blah, blah. But now when they're like the five

602
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: seed kind of overachieving, it doesn't have that same feel.

603
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Speaker 3: So again, I always say, you know, whoever it is

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Speaker 3: in sports, whether it's your quarterbacks, your NBA stars, your

605
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: college basketball coaches, you want them to elicit emotion. I

606
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Speaker 3: just don't know that anybody does right now, and hopefully

607
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 3: this tournament helps build some of those guys. He's Aeron Tores.

608
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: Let's get an update of what's happening in the tournament

610
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Speaker 2: games men's and women's with Kevin Wyre.

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Speaker 3: What's going on, Kevin?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, around the thirty two action Marquette and Colorado. The

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Speaker 5: two seeded Golden Eagles shooting lights out at seventy two

614
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Speaker 5: point two percent thirteen to eighteen to start the game.

615
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 5: That's got him out to a thirty to twenty lead

616
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Speaker 5: over Colorado. They got eight twelve to go in the

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Speaker 5: first half. Coming up in just a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 5: actually a couple hours, I should say. Top seeded Purdue,

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Speaker 5: eight seeded Utah State will be the second game of

620
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Speaker 5: the day that will follow this one in Indianapolis. On

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Speaker 5: the women's side of things, we do have one game

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Speaker 5: underway already two seeded Ohio State, seventh seeded Duke and

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Speaker 5: the Buck Guy's running away with this one. It's twenty

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Speaker 5: six to twelve. They're in the second quarter, about six

625
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Speaker 5: and a half minutes ago, as the Blue Devils have

626
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 5: struggled mightily to begin the game three to fifteen shooting.

627
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 5: They've also turned the basketball over seven times, and they've

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Speaker 5: only played about thirteen and a half minutes so far

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Speaker 5: in this contest. Coming up in about twenty minutes, top

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Speaker 5: seeded South Carolina will face eight seeded North Carolina. Third

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Speaker 5: seeded LSU will face eleven seeded Middle Tennessee. That will

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Speaker 5: take place at three o'clock Eastern time. Basketball News College

633
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Speaker 5: basketball News University of Michigan has named Florida Atlantic head

634
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Speaker 5: coach Dusky May is the new leader of their program,

635
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Speaker 5: and he's been given a five year contract that will

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Speaker 5: pay him an average of three point seventy five million

637
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Speaker 5: dollars per season. In golf, it's the vals Bar Championship.

638
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Speaker 5: Keith Mitchell in the lead at ten under par. He

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Speaker 5: set the tee off about an hour and ten minutes

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Speaker 5: from now. Mackenzie Hughes is tied for second. There's a

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Speaker 5: three way tide, Mackenzie Hughes, Peter Malnaughty and a seamous Power.

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Speaker 5: They're all eight under parr Man in NASCAR coming up

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Speaker 5: at three point thirty Eastern time at the circuit of

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Speaker 5: the America's the NASCAR Cup Series race will be seeing

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Speaker 5: over on Fox.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Kevin I played in a program once with Mackenzie Hughes.

648
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Speaker 2: Hey Tory could not have been nicers. Yes, an absolute much.

649
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Speaker 2: Jem have a guy okay good Yes from Canada, Canadian

650
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: or Kent State, I believe, but made a name for

651
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: himself over the last couple of years on the PGA Tour.

652
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Speaker 2: So hope Mackenzie Hughes fares well today. Of course we're

653
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Speaker 2: focusing on hoops here. He's erin Torres. I'm dan Byer.

654
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: I got something to say about the Gonzaga story because

655
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Speaker 2: I actually think that team can play the role of

656
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Speaker 2: the villain once again. He's erin Tooris. I'm Dan Byer.

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00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: That's next to your Life from the TIREC dot Com

658
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Speaker 2: studios on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. He's erin Torres.

659
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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. Marquette's up seven on Colorado Aaron thirty

660
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: seven to thirty four minutes to go until halftime. I

661
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: wondered how much Colorado would have left in them considering

662
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: their high octane affair against Florida. There are a lot

663
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: of emotions that come out when you have a buzzer

664
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Speaker 2: beater can go one of two ways. Obviously, you can

665
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: continue that momentum or sometimes it takes a little audio.

666
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: Colorado seemingly got off to a slow start. Lots of basketball,

667
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: but Marquette right now up seven in that game. The

668
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: Golden Eagles and Tyler Kolloch's health was a topic of conversation.

669
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Speaker 2: Since you didn't play the Big East Tournament. I'm wondering

670
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: with Kansas being ousted yesterday, I just in terms of

671
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: how we looked at that four or five seed. And

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Speaker 2: there'll be more of a Gonzaga conversation that we'll have

673
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Speaker 2: coming up at the top of the hour in that

674
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: Midwest region, because I think that is there's a lot

675
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Speaker 2: of intrigue in what could happen if Purdue ends up

676
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: beating Utah State today. But Kansas did not look the

677
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: part of a four seed yesterday and deserve it, and

678
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: understandably so is the way to put it. When you

679
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: don't have your leading score. But when we're talking about seeding,

680
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: when we're talking about matchups, when you don't have Kevin

681
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: mccullor play in the Big Twelve Tournament, you don't have

682
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: Hunter Dickinson play in the Big twelve Tournament, I don't

683
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: know what you do as a committee. Maybe you make

684
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: him a four seed and feel that you know, Gonzaga

685
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: was your best option as a five. I've could have

686
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: been flipped maybe Gonzaga for Kansas to five. Then it

687
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. The point is is that Kansas version

688
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Speaker 2: for as hard as they played yesterday and even in

689
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Speaker 2: their game against Samford. I just don't know if they

690
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: were a four seed and we talked about seeding and

691
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: we're talking about you know, seed lines and stuff like that,

692
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: when you have significant injuries like this, I understand a

693
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: school wanting to play coy And I'm not saying Kansas

694
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Speaker 2: did that. It's just a point of if you're the

695
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Speaker 2: committee and you're saying, well, they just lost in the

696
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Speaker 2: Big Twelve Tournament and two of their best players are hurt,

697
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: how much.

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Speaker 3: Do we weigh into this.

699
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Speaker 2: I think that they gave Kansas the benefit of the doubt,

700
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Speaker 2: and in the end it didn't pay off because I

701
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: don't think that they were truly a four seed in

702
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: that version of the Kansas Jayhawks.

703
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's tough because you know, you listen

704
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: to some of Bill Self's pre tournament I don't I

705
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: don't think Bill Self actively lied to get a better seed.

706
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: And by the way, because I had a lot of

707
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: people hit me up right before the bracket came out

708
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Speaker 3: last week of like how is Kansas still you know?

709
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, they're one of three teams to

710
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: beat Yukon, They're one of four three teams to beat Houston,

711
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: they beat Tennessee. It's like okay, so they they beat

712
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Speaker 3: Yukon and beat Houston, beat Tennessee. I I don't know,

713
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Speaker 3: like they have the resume of a top seed. But

714
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Speaker 3: like I said, I just I don't think. I will

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Speaker 3: say I don't think that Bill self actively was trying

716
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Speaker 3: to fool the committee. I think he believed, in his

717
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Speaker 3: heart of hearts that that Kevin mccullor would maybe be

718
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Speaker 3: able to go, And so I had no problem with

719
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Speaker 3: them being misseeded. And you know, listen, they lost to

720
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Speaker 3: a good Kenzagga team. I think we all knew this

721
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: wasn't a vintage Kansas team, and so Kansas goes home.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the thing, and I don't I'm not saying

723
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Speaker 2: that Bill self lied either. What I'm just saying, if

724
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Speaker 2: you're the committee, though, how do you look into it?

725
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Speaker 3: Shure?

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Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with Marquette. Is Marquette a

727
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: two seed? If Tyler Kullak isn't there? No, absolutely, not

728
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Speaker 2: percent not. Even though they make a run, they're not

729
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: the same team he ends up playing. Seemed fine in

730
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Speaker 2: the first game, seems fine today, no harm, no foul.

731
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Speaker 2: And I think the committee took the same approach with Kansas,

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Speaker 2: and at least they were consistent, not being there's no

733
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Speaker 2: one to blame here. Yeah, in terms of I think

734
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Speaker 2: the committee thought that they did what was best, and

735
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Speaker 2: I think Kansas was in a situation where you're also

736
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Speaker 2: trying to improve and get the best scenario for you

737
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Speaker 2: to make a run. But in the end, that version

738
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Speaker 2: of Kansas, who's already lacking depth and now you're lacking

739
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Speaker 2: your leading score, just was not the four seed that

740
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Speaker 2: maybe you would have thought they were. With the resume

741
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Speaker 2: that you talked about because the resume that they had

742
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Speaker 2: in the latter part of the year when they were

743
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Speaker 2: dealing with these injuries also did not represent a four seed, no.

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Speaker 3: Doubt about it, and certainly interesting they go into the offset.

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you have any issues with Bill

746
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: self's comments of basically like I've been thinking about next

747
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: year for you know, I.

748
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Speaker 2: Heard it, and then I didn't hear the entire window

749
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Speaker 2: of it. If you do, it's not very controversial. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think so, and that's what I took it

751
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Speaker 2: as I and I did see some other entities just

752
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Speaker 2: taking that clip. I've seen people be outraged of thinking

753
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Speaker 2: about next year, and if that's what the point was,

754
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: then that's really too bad. But to your point, if that,

755
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Speaker 2: if it was completely taken out of context, then yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know the entire We have the full cut

758
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Speaker 3: and I won't make both play it because it's like

759
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: ninety seconds. But essentially he said, you know, because they

760
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 3: said like, well, how do you gear up for next year?

761
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: And he's like, honestly, I've been thinking about next year

762
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 3: for six weeks now or whatever he said, a month,

763
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: and he said, you know, he said, when we're in

764
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: the games. We're locked in on the games. But he's like,

765
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: we've only had eight healthy players for most of the year.

766
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: We only have six healthy players right now. And he

767
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: basically said, like, you kind of knew this just this

768
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: just wasn't gonna be our year, and so yeah, it was.

769
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Speaker 3: It got blown into something because it's Bill self nine

770
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: million dollar a year coach. I get it, but I

771
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: also when you listen to the whole context, it's not

772
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 3: as big of a deal as people make it out

773
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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 2: All right, to keep you updated, Marquette is up on

775
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Colorado thirty nine to thirty two, and that two ten

776
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: matchup Marquette right now, you're ready for this.

777
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: They've missed six shots.

778
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: Okay, all of those were threes, but they're five of

779
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: eleven from behind the arc. They have not missed a

780
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: two point fold in this game. Yes, they are twelve

781
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: for twelve from the floor in this game against Colorado

782
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: right now. That's probably not gonna last. But is it

783
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: going to go to the free throw line? But yeah,

784
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: right now, Marquette shooting seventy four percent from the floor.

785
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: Colorado's like, you know, we're shooting fifty percent and rinsitting

786
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: there trying to keep our head above water in a

787
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: pace that we felt was going to be.

788
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 3: The up and down.

789
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 2: Marquette's largest lead of the game twelve points. But yeah,

790
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: shooting seventy five percent from the field right now, have

791
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: not seventeen minutes in have not missed a two point

792
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: field goal in that two ten game winner? Has NZI

793
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: State waiting for them? So at NZ State being able

794
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 2: to put it together yesterday against Oakland quite the story

795
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: hit airon up at Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find

796
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: me at Dan Bayer on Fox and after this game

797
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, Marquette and Colorado Purdue in Utah State playing

798
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: the Midwest Region in a one to eight game, Ohio

799
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Speaker 2: States up on Duke and the women's tournament nearing the

800
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Speaker 2: end of the first half thirty six to thirty in

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Speaker 2: that one. It is Fox Sports Sunday, the Reach and

802
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: we all should be watching And why one school is

803
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: about to play the role of the bad guy. We'll

804
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 2: tell you why next year on Fox Sports Radio. Well,

805
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: Marquette finally missed a two point field goal, but they

806
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: still have a nice lead on Colorado by eleven is

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Speaker 2: aired Kevin Wired say welcome in. We are broadcasting line

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Speaker 3: The way tire By should be.

813
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: The Colorado basketball defense kind of like the Colorado football

814
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: defense non existence.

815
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah out here taking he's just trying to He took

816
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: enough strays this week by admitting that he hasn't done

817
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: any in home visits this year so well.

818
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: The no defense fairly runs through multiple athletic teams in Boulder, Colorado.

819
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: Because Marquette getting whatever they want, still have to go

820
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: though for Ted Boyle and his squad to try to

821
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: turn things around and pull it up. Set that this

822
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 2: game is in Indianapolis. It's in the South Region. Later

823
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: today in Indy in the Midwest region. After the conclusion

824
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: of this one. It's number one Purdue against number eight

825
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 2: Utah State. Utah State may pull the upset in this game.

826
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: Purdue is going to have the home crowd. We still

827
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: you know, even Grambling gave the Boilers a little worried

828
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: there for a little while. But I don't think anybody

829
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: is automatically advancing Purdue into the Sweet sixteen despite them

830
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: being a favorite. This is where I want to get

831
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: to my point. Aaron Torres, ok it, Purdue wins. Think

832
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: of this, Think of this Sweet sixteen. You've got perdue,

833
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: the number one seed. Yep, who's been wanting to go

834
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: back to the Final four for forty you know some

835
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: odd years. Tennessee, Oh, never been, never been, never been.

836
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: Creighton never been so close. Last year so close, getting

837
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: losing in the Elite eight to San Diego State, Oh

838
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: so close. And here you have a Gonzaga team. Then

839
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: a month ago I think I said to you are

840
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: are is z Eve was gonna make the tournament?

841
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Speaker 6: You know?

842
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: And then they end up having a couple of big wins.

843
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: They were like LeAnn, but it wasn't the guarantee that

844
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: we had come accustomed to. Now Goozega goes on a

845
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: run at the end of the WCC regular season, didn't

846
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: win the conference tournament, lost in the championship game. Now

847
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: Gonzaga there to be the villain, and that is what

848
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: is I want teams. I like it when teams reach

849
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: something that they haven't done before. That's what made Virginia

850
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: Purdue in twenty nineteen, so difficult because you knew someone

851
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: was going to have their heart ripped out.

852
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: And as Keya.

853
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: Clark is in the back court and there's three seconds left,

854
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I feel bad for Tony Bennett in Virginia.

855
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Sure they're so close, they're not going to get it.

856
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: This could have been their opportunity they had lost in

857
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: an Elite eight before trying to bounce back from that

858
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: lost the year prior. And then the amazing pass to

859
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: Diakite the bucket and then it's back on Purdue. Man,

860
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: how can Purdue lose that one so close? But you

861
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: think of these three schools and all of their opportunities

862
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: and fate has not been on their side in making

863
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: it to that finish line. And here would be Gonzaga,

864
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: the team that, by the way, had the same you

865
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: know bugaboo that these three schools are trying to overcome

866
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: standing in their way to prevent that from happening.

867
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: But couldn't you argue though, if Gonzagas somehow did make

868
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: the Final four, that you know, the dream of them

869
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: winning the national championship, the one thing that has eluded them,

870
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 3: would then be in play. Like I think It's one

871
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: that if you have no personal favoritism or bias like me,

872
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: Perdue fans hate me, so I kind of would revel

873
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: in them not making the final four. But I think

874
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: you could be happy for all four programs, right, Like

875
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: you look at some of these other regions, it's like, well,

876
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: I'll say it, like you know, like Yukon just won

877
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: it last year, Like Yukon's won five championship since nineteen

878
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: ninety nine, Like you know, Illinois hasn't been to a

879
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 3: final four since this or I guess it was, oh five,

880
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: Iowa State, I maybe they've been to a final four.

881
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: So the point I'm trying to make is like there

882
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: are teams in all these regions. You know, Carolina, they're

883
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: always in the mix. Let Arizona get their first Final

884
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: four in forever. I think you could legitimately be happy

885
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: for all four of those teams if obviously Perdue advance.

886
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: It's different, Oh, it is. It is completely different. Noted

887
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: Zag's hater, Dan. No, it's different because like, isn't Purdue

888
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: isn't the same as an Illinois team that hasn't been

889
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: there for twenty years. This is now. This is not

890
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: only Matt Painter's issue. This was Gene Katie's issue. Oh yeah,

891
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: this is a forty year thing. Plus you're also in

892
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: a state that is basketball crazed and for so long

893
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: had played as the little brother to Bob Knight in Indiana,

894
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: and now here you have an opportunity where you are

895
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: consistently one of the top teams in the country, but

896
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: you just kind of can't get out of your own way.

897
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: And so for Purdue it would just be enormous. And

898
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: it's funny as well, because you know, I went to

899
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: a Big Den school and my buddies they all follow

900
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: Big Ten basketball. They can't stand the Purdue fan base. Sure, No,

901
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm out here on the West Coast. I'm not as

902
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: not as affected by it as they are back in

903
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: the in the Midwest and feeling it. But they can't

904
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: stand them. But I'm sure the fan base is probably

905
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: that way because of the forty four years that it

906
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: has been and with Tennessee and Creighton and Creighton especially

907
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: Aaron considering you know, the success of the teams and

908
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: not like where they've they've built up to and it

909
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: comes so close as they did, like Rick Barnes has

910
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: been to a Final four, just not with Tennessee. Tennessee's

911
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: got their own issues. But also they would trade in

912
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: a final four if they could get their football team

913
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: in a playoff twelve team of four team, you know,

914
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: in a heartbeat, like there's there's there's no doubt about it.

915
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: But for that to be, for that to be Creighton's

916
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: opportunity in what that would mean, and that's an in

917
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, an elevator. Gonzega's been to Heck, they've been

918
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: to a couple of final fours. They've been to a

919
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: couple of championship games, were favored in a championship game

920
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: they ended up, you know, losing a couple of years ago.

921
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: Like there's so like they have been there them like

922
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: going back after a four year absence just to me,

923
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: isn't it's it's not even remotely close. Plus honestly, for

924
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: his good as Gonzaga has looked in these first two games,

925
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: I don't think they're good enough to win the national title.

926
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: So it's not even realistic where you could just take that.

927
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure for Gonzaga fans going to the final four

928
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: would be great, but I don't think it's going to

929
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: have a national spreading feel or a bigger sort of

930
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: feel good story as a Purdue Tennessee or Crayton going

931
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: to a Final four.

932
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could buy that because I think if you're Gonzaga,

933
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: the only way it becomes like a really cool story

934
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: is if you end up winning the national championships. So

935
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: if you had to pick one that you would be

936
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: most happy for, if you will, who would it be?

937
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: As far as those three in the Midwest.

938
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Tennessee out, So it would be down

939
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: to Purdue, my Tennessee out because of the football thing. Sure,

940
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: because Rick Barnes has been to one, and I know

941
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: it is a long long time ago, twenty one years ago,

942
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: but still he's been to a Final four. I'm taking

943
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee Tennessee out the per gosh he and again Purdue

944
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: has been to one.

945
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 3: Who's been the two?

946
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: The last one is nineteen eighty I I think I

947
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: think it would be perdue because of Zach Edy, because

948
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: of of for them to finally accomplish that, I think

949
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 2: that that would be the biggest story, especially after what

950
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: then what happened last year. Maybe similar to Virginia, but

951
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: it's tough. Do you have I know you just said

952
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: Purdue fans hate you, so I would assume that you

953
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: probably want to see Creighton then get that edge.

954
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 6: You know.

955
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I do think and I understand the Tennessee thing.

956
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: And even Tennessee fans would readily admit they care much

957
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: more about you know, they would they would trade a

958
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: final four in football in basketball for a final twelve

959
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: in football that they would even admit that. But I

960
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 3: do think the Rick Barnes narrative has been a little

961
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: bit overblown. You know. I put this out on Twitter

962
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: the other day. You know, Rick Barnes has now been

963
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: to the second weekend of the NCAA tournament three of

964
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: the last five NCAA tournaments that have played. Bill self

965
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: can't say that. John kel Perry certainly can't say that.

966
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: Tom Izzo can't say that. So I would be happy

967
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: for Rick Barnes. And I don't know, I I.

968
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: Were you catering to the Tennessee crowd? Were you catering

969
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: because they got it? Did get some run?

970
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? Yeah? They love they love that?

971
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: Because is that really like and I'm trying not to

972
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: diss Rick Barnes here, but is that what we're hanging

973
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: our hat on?

974
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: Like? Well, I do think you can't say that he

975
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: never has success in March when he's made it to

976
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: the second weekend at Tennessee. By the way, we're not

977
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: talking about Kentucky. We're not talking about Kansas. We're talking

978
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 3: about Tennessee. And I know they've had success before him,

979
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: but they haven't had a lot of high level success Perdue.

980
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: I'll say this really quickly on Perdue. I'm so torn

981
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: because one, first of all, I kind of feel bad

982
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: for Zach Edie because I've been critical of the way

983
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: that he is refereed. But that's not Zach Edie's fault.

984
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: And I actually think he's a good player. And I

985
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: think people parachute into college basketball and oh, look at

986
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 3: his big stiff. It's like, no, he's he's a really

987
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 3: skilled player. But I also do think he is unfairly refereed.

988
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: And I also think I said this on my show

989
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 3: last night, I think Matt Painter's turned into just a whiner.

990
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: Just every time he's at the podium he's complaining about something.

991
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, even the Zach edy stuff, He's like,

992
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: you know, I just don't understand why no one can

993
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: appreciate what he's doing. It's like, coach, if your team

994
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 3: was on the wrong side of a thirty eight to

995
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 3: nine foul discrepancy or whatever, you would be just as pissed. Stop.

996
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 3: And then last night he was complaining. I think he

997
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: was complaining about tip times. I'm gonna get into that. Yeah,

998
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: go ahead and finish your player. It's like, you're not

999
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: good enough to complain this much, okay, if you were

1000
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 3: freaking you know, Nick Saban or Kirby Smart, I don't know.

1001
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: I think he's getting to that one. You know, all

1002
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: these coaches, they have high level success, they never really

1003
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: get pushed back, especially in basketball. It's like, you know,

1004
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: at least Behi made like three final fours before he

1005
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: became the crankiest guy in the world. But go ahead,

1006
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: what were you saying.

1007
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: The point that made Matt Paynter so mad and made

1008
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: a lot of Purdue fans mad is something. And I've

1009
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: told this story and I'll just say it again because

1010
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 2: there are people who haven't heard it for the first time.

1011
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 2: When I was in high school, the thing that we

1012
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: would do was go to first and second round games

1013
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: of the NCAA tournament. And so it would be the

1014
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: Thursday and Saturday or the Friday and Sunday, So you

1015
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: have four games on the Thursday or Friday, and then

1016
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: you would have two on the Saturday and Sunday. What

1017
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: was normal before this current TV contract And this is

1018
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, Aaron Is. The first one we went

1019
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 2: to was in Milwaukee. So guess what tip time? Probably

1020
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: eleven thirty for game one? Sure, tip time two o'clock

1021
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 2: for game two, gets done at about four o'clock ish.

1022
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: Then you come back and seven o'clock, let's tip it

1023
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: off again. Well, now with all of the games that

1024
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: are kind of staggered start, so if you're at halftime

1025
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: a one game, you can go and check out the

1026
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: completion of another. Like they're moving it all around. The

1027
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: schedule is completely different. But when you buy tickets to

1028
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: these events, what happens is you don't get one ticket

1029
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: for four games. Yes, you get one ticket for a session,

1030
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: which is two games. So they had to clear out

1031
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: game Bridge Field House for the first session, which went

1032
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: super long because Colorado and Florida took forever to finish.

1033
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: So you have to get everybody out of the arena,

1034
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: do the cleaning or whatever you need to do, and

1035
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: then you have to bring everybody in so produce. Playing

1036
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: the late game, they probably have what twelve a thousand

1037
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: of the fans there, maybe even more filling in. So

1038
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: now you have all these people leaving, and now you

1039
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: have to accommodate jamming these twelve thousand people in like

1040
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: a thirty minute window because CBS wants you to tip

1041
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: off at seven twenty Eastern time. So that was his

1042
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: point about it. They delayed the game a little bit,

1043
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: but the TV scheduling so much was made. I know

1044
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz was talking about it earlier on the network.

1045
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: I think we may have mentioned it on Friday.

1046
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: But the early.

1047
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 2: Game yesterday was in Salt Lake City, they were tipping

1048
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: off at ten forty five local time. And then last

1049
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: time in Pittsburgh you had a tip off come up

1050
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: at about nine to forty eastern approximately. I think maybe

1051
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't until ten o'clock. It's the TV schedule that's

1052
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: screwing it. And what Painter was so mad about was

1053
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: they've got thousands upon thousands of fans that aren't in

1054
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: their seats because of the way that the NCAA does

1055
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: this in clearing out fans.

1056
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: That's what he was so mad about. It no, and

1057
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: I remember talking about this last night. Now, I just

1058
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 3: I think these are caviar problems. Wow, we're so good

1059
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: that they want us in primetime and we have so

1060
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: many fans they can't get in. It's just like I

1061
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: just don't want to hear it. It's just I don't know.

1062
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: I just I don't care. And by the way, like

1063
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: you said, I think Erazda's got him. I didn't hear

1064
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: Tommy Lloyd Whiney. Maybe he did, Maybe he did, I

1065
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 3: don't know. But it's just like their caviar problems is

1066
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: just like I don't know, I just don't want to

1067
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: hear this every time I hear him on the podium.

1068
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's because you've it's because your

1069
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 3: program's essentially been irrelevant forever. And I think that's what

1070
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 3: it is. Is like, you know, because Perdue fans whenever

1071
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, I, well, you're just doing this for clicks.

1072
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: It's like, well, if I wanted to disagree, if I

1073
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 3: wanted to fight a fan base over clicks, Perdue would

1074
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: not be the one that I chose. I'd probably make

1075
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: fun of Indiana, probably make fun of Kansas, Kentucky, Yukon whatever,

1076
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 3: I just truly believe what I believe. But he has

1077
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: become a little too whiny for my that's.

1078
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: The problem with you, because this this isn't a caviar problem.

1079
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: This is the NCAA saying like, not only do we

1080
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: want our TV money, We're gonna do it at the

1081
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: expense of teams and their fans attending the game like this,

1082
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: he could heat and him crying wolf about eight other

1083
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: things probably makes this sound at whiny is a really

1084
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: good point. And Tommy Lloyd and Arizona didn't have to

1085
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: do because they played in the early window on Thursday

1086
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 2: five tip off. Yeah, but all their fans got into

1087
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: the arena. Yeah, they also had to get up at

1088
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 2: probably five thirty as they did it, it's only twenty thousand.

1089
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 2: The point is you have to move to twelve thousand

1090
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: people the team did.

1091
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 3: The team probably for to get their meal in their

1092
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: pregame walk through, probably got up at six am. So

1093
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 3: did so did Dayton. Problem though, that's the only point

1094
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to make.

1095
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I think that you're piling I'm hat

1096
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 2: there a little bit, but that's nothing to expect.

1097
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 3: That's, you know, nothing else to expect.

1098
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: From noted Purdue hater Eron Torres get him at funny.

1099
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 3: By the way, I got it a very mean spirited

1100
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: DM yesterday with a lot of expletives and misspelled words

1101
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 3: from a Purdue fan telling me how you know everything

1102
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 3: was coming to me and he said when Purdue makes

1103
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 3: the final four, Da da da da. I was like, well,

1104
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: I I picked Perdue to play for the championship, so

1105
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: I hope they make it because I'm gonna win a

1106
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: lot of money. It's amazing how quiet and how you

1107
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 3: exp Tanner Flynn. I hope pretty makes the final four

1108
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: and you're in attendance when you hear someone calling you

1109
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: zach Edes B word, that'll be me. Hope we can

1110
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: have a convo, I said. I said, I hope you

1111
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: can get them on next segment. Can we get this

1112
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: guy on next time? I said, I hope they make

1113
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: it too. I have them playing you cut for the

1114
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 3: title and will win a lot of money. Appreciate your support.

1115
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 3: He saw that. He saw that twenty two hours ago.

1116
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: According to Instagram, he has yet to respond. He's Eric Sores.

1117
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm Dan Beyer.

1118
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: Just like in basketball, these success a successful game plan

1119
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,479
Speaker 2: starts with the right players the team. Attractor Supply brings

1120
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 2: hustle and heart, and that's what really sets them apart.

1121
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: So lace up your sneakers and make the winning play

1122
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: by heading to your local Tractor Supply store Today. A

1123
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: special edition of Easy As one, two, three four comes up. Next,

1124
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: Aaron's in the hot seat. He's going to have lifelines.

1125
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: I hope he uses them unless Bo Benson's being talked

1126
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 2: to by Steve Hartman and deems him ineligible. That could

1127
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: be the key. That's next. Plus, oh no, Iowa has

1128
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 2: done something with Caitlin Clark that I think every school

1129
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: should do.

1130
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: We'll explain what that is next year.

1131
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: On Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday Tournament rolling on.

1132
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Buyer, He's Aaron Torres, Steve Harbin and rich

1133
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: Orenburger take over at the top of the hour, and

1134
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: then it's more basketball, more basketball, more basketball. Calvin Washington

1135
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: Carry Rhodes after that, Mark Willardy from Salam I think

1136
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: Ephraim's gonna be on during the San Diego State game.

1137
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: That'll be interesting. Former as Tech footballer and hoopster for

1138
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: a little while, so that should be interesting. So keep

1139
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 2: it locked here on Fox Sports Radio all day long

1140
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: as the tournament continues.

1141
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: When I walked into the final four last year at Houston,

1142
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 3: first Face, I saw sal That's true story.

1143
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: When the brackets came out, we talked about this. San

1144
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: Diego State was put on the bracket like the physical

1145
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: bracket that you print out in the same exact spot

1146
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: as they were a year ago. And what ELSEO happened

1147
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: a year ago? Furman ends up having the upset, San

1148
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: Diego State ends.

1149
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: Up playing at the thirteen seed. What happens here?

1150
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: Yale gets the upset of Auburn. San Diego State takes

1151
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: on Yale in the bracket where you're facing the number

1152
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: one overall seed. Yeah, it's uh deja vous all over again.

1153
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: We'll see if the Aztec scan that's the last game

1154
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: of the night, I believe.

1155
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, really quick, because I know we

1156
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 3: gotta get some other stuff. Do you have any beef?

1157
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: Like I see a lot of the how do.

1158
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 6: We have one game at twelve fifteen about It's like

1159
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 6: I can't, Like there's just so much anger that I

1160
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 6: can have built up, and I don't know that I

1161
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 6: care that much, and I you know, I think most

1162
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 6: of the late games will be wrapped by about nine

1163
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 6: pm Eastern time.

1164
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 3: I think there's you know, San Diego State Yale is

1165
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: the late game. I just I don't care that much.

1166
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: I mean, but I you don't care that much because

1167
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: you will watch all day long.

1168
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, okay.

1169
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: The problem with it that I feel is I believe

1170
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: that they are trying to squeeze way too much juice

1171
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: out of the Orange. I get it on a Saturday,

1172
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: but there's a thing on some that when CBS used

1173
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: to have it just exclusively, you'd have to be done

1174
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: by sixty minutes. Yeah, so you would have you know,

1175
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: doubled up games in this window. And now you don't

1176
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: have to do that. You can have a game on

1177
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: a Sunday night. And I just think, for just and

1178
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: I use the casual viewer pretty broad outside of an

1179
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: absolute die hard die hard, I think it doesn't necessarily

1180
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: work for them because they're not putting in the twelve

1181
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: hours of Like this game tipped off for us here

1182
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: on the West Coast nine to ten local time, twelve

1183
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: ten Eastern, it's going to be twelve hours of basketball

1184
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: because at nine o'clock tonight, you know, San Diego State

1185
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: and Yale will likely be wrapping up. So that's that's

1186
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: the portion of it. Or I can see if you're

1187
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: a little frustrated, because you know what, some people have

1188
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: stuff to do. Some people may not want to watch

1189
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: a blowout. This is now becoming more of a game.

1190
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: Kevin's gonna give us an update here in thirty seconds

1191
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: and then we'll play our own game here on Fox

1192
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. But that's where I think the complaints are.

1193
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: I don't think people are complaining for the sake of complaining.

1194
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: My problem with yesterday outside from the Salt Lake City

1195
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: like early tip even though the early wake up call

1196
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: wasn't too bad for me, I just thought it's weird

1197
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: to have a game tip off in a ten o'clock hour.

1198
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: My problem was, how does Michigan State North Carolina not

1199
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: get the exclusive window?

1200
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1201
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 3: Where like that?

1202
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: Like, I thought that that was the marquee game, and

1203
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: I thought that that, you know, nothing against Dayton in

1204
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: Arizona or the Gonzaga Kansas game that followed. But I

1205
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: just felt that North Carolina Michigan State was the more

1206
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: compelling game, and that was the game that I would

1207
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: have liked to have seen, just stand alone by itself.

1208
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: That was my share with it. What was the other

1209
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: game in that bracket? Do we?

1210
01:00:59,080 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 5: Oh?

1211
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: It is Tennessee Tech. Yeah, so good to be Tennessee

1212
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: Texas into Carolina Michigan State and then into the Gonzaga

1213
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: and all that.

1214
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: And that would have been fine. Let's get an up

1215
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: date from Kevin Wired. It's going to be one of

1216
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Torres's lifelines as easy as one, two, three four.

1217
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 5: What's going on CP, Yeah, we got fifteen forty one

1218
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 5: to go in the first game of the day between

1219
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 5: two seed and Marquette, tenth seeded Colorado, and this has

1220
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 5: been a good game so far, a high scoring affair,

1221
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 5: fifty two to forty nine in favor of the Golden Eagles.

1222
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 5: And they've shot sixty four percent for the game, twenty

1223
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 5: two to thirty four, seven to sixteen from beyond the

1224
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 5: three point line. And Colorado started a heat up as well.

1225
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 5: They are twenty of thirty nine shooting, that's fifty one

1226
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 5: point three percent. Cam Jones leading all scores. He's got

1227
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 5: sixteen points for Marquette. Second game of the day won't

1228
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 5: get going until two forty Eastern No. Follow this game

1229
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 5: in Indianapolis, there'll be a matchup of top seeded Perdue,

1230
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 5: eight seeded Utah State. We've got two games going on

1231
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 5: so far in the women's side of things. Second seeded

1232
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 5: Ohio State seven a duke and after struggling for much

1233
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 5: of that first half, the Blue Devils on top.

1234
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: Right now.

1235
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 5: It's forty nine to forty seven. They've got one twenty

1236
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 5: two to go in the third quarter. Duke now up

1237
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 5: to fifty percent sary. They were in the low twenties

1238
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 5: for the first quarter and a half or so of

1239
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 5: this game, but I've really come on strong. Other game

1240
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 5: going on right now in women's college basketball, top seeded

1241
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 5: South Carolina running away with this one against eight seeded

1242
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 5: North Carolina. It's twenty eight to eight. They have reached

1243
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 5: the end of the first quarter. The next game coming

1244
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 5: up at two o'clock Eastern time. Fourth seed to Kansas State,

1245
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 5: fifth seed to Colorado, and then coming up in a

1246
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 5: couple hours it'll be third seeded LC eleventh seeded Middle Tennessee.

1247
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 5: And Kim Moulkie alleging that the Washington Post, an upublished

1248
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 5: story was quote a hit piece, and she has threatened

1249
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 5: a lawsuit. So we'll have to see exactly what the

1250
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 5: Washington Post has to say about her and what Molkey's

1251
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 5: response will be.

1252
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: The response is going to sell some newspapers. By the way,

1253
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: everybody want to know what.

1254
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it's getting published because they were probably

1255
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: trying to slander her, and I think that they know that.

1256
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: I don't think it gets published personally done, and if

1257
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: it does, it'll be the least interesting articlever. But it

1258
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 3: may sell some newspapers. As you said, you got more, Kevin,

1259
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 3: you get to go oh yeah.

1260
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 5: In golf with the vals Bar Championship as Keith Mitchell,

1261
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 5: he's a leader and he's about to tee off in

1262
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 5: the next twenty minutes or so. He's ten under par

1263
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 5: and then three way tie and Mackenzie Hughes set to

1264
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 5: a tee off in the under ten minutes. Peter Mulnaughty

1265
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 5: also set the tee off as Seamous Power, also tied

1266
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 5: at eight under. He will get going at one at

1267
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 5: fifty eastern time in NASCAR Circuit of the Americas. We'll

1268
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 5: get going a three thirty eastern on Fox.

1269
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 2: Bet you all right, Thank you very much, Kevin. You're

1270
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: gonna stick around. You may be needed by Aaron Torres.

1271
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: Hit him up at Aaron Underscore Torres found me at

1272
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: Dan Byer on Fox. Bow Benson, the executive producer, Chris

1273
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: purfets our technical producer. You three, Kevin Bow and Chris

1274
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: will serve as lifelines to Aaron Torres in a game

1275
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: we like to call easy As one, two, three four.

1276
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: Let's strike up the band for those that are unfamiliar

1277
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: because we usually don't play it in this timeslot. I

1278
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: give Aaron a topic four separate questions. He doesn't have

1279
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Speaker 2: to give me all of the correct answers, just some

1280
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: of them.

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01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 3: If you have.

1282
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: Any questions or want to use any lifelines, the guys

1283
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: are there available. You can workshop answers out. I'll ask

1284
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: for a final answer. And the goal is a perfect

1285
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: score of ten. But the real goal is to hit

1286
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: the over under. The over under today eight and a half.

1287
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: So yes, eight and a half. We've set the bar

1288
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: high for you, Aaron Torres.

1289
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 3: Those numbers, those are rookie numbers.

1290
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: Are you ready to play easy as one, two, three four?

1291
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: Let's do it all right, Aaron? Name one of two

1292
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: states that produced the most NCUBA tournament teams this year.

1293
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: There were two states that produced the most NCUBA tournament

1294
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: schools in the men's bracket. Wow, that's actually name.

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01:04:54,040 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: One of two. You can use a lot flying. I know,

1296
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: I'm trying to just think about the bracket really quick.

1297
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: I know we're a little tight on time here. That's

1298
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 3: all right. If anybody thinks they might have have an idea.

1299
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 2: You want Bowl, you want Chris, you want Kevin and

1300
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: he you need to call on first.

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01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 3: Stop bringing bow first. I have Bo Benson, Aaron.

1302
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 7: I've watched so much college basketball this year, so this

1303
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 7: is the last choice.

1304
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 3: This is like having billis J. Williams and uh Seth

1305
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: Greenberg here. So I really didn't know who to call it.

1306
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 7: So our initial thought was the state of Illinois because

1307
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 7: at least Northwestern Illinois and Marquette playing right now, Marquets

1308
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 7: and Wisconsin marketson Wisconsin. Never mind, how about this show?

1309
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 7: How much I know about college basket?

1310
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 3: Alabama had Alabama, Auburn and Samford and you, ay bet

1311
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: you know what Bo I like. Where your head's at?

1312
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: I think Alabama is once when I said Alabama for sure? Yeah, both,

1313
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 3: Thank you for your effort. The your final answer, yes Alabama,

1314
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: all right, show me Alabama?

1315
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: Yes, four schools in You're right, Obama, Auburn, UAB Sanford,

1316
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: Texas had six.

1317
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Texas Texas.

1318
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 7: I will say Steve Hartman did say Texas in here

1319
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 7: as well.

1320
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: Tech, TCU, Houston, and Baylor all making Steve Hartman.

1321
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: Could slide over next to Chris Prefett. Now that would

1322
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: be much appreciated.

1323
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: That would be cheating. That would be that Hartman is

1324
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: not allowed to play this game.

1325
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 3: All right, fet just give me a wink when Steve

1326
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: Hartman's FEGGI the information. Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

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01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: Next question, name two of three IVY League schools that

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01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: haven't made the NCAA tournament in the two thousands.

1329
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 3: I love how you teased that. Oh it's gonna be

1330
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 3: so easy.

1331
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: I think the next ones you'll get. But these are

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01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 2: just because they're first, does not mean they're the easiest question.

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01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So teams that have not made the NCAA tournament

1334
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 3: in the two thousands from the IVY League. Okay, so

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01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 3: I know there are three of them. I just need

1336
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 3: to know two of them. I know Yale has, Princeton has,

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01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 3: Harvard has Cornell has I think Dartmouth has. They're so

1338
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 3: busy unionizing, I can't keep up with what's going on

1339
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: over there. You got Kevin, you got Chris available. I'm

1340
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: gonna say, Chris, how familiar are you with the IVY League?

1341
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 8: I had to remember all I had to like the

1342
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 8: schools that are in the heartment.

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01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 3: This bothers Hartman so much. I had to wink and

1344
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: he is like running around the studio. So you can

1345
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 3: you can at least name all of the schools? Yes, okay,

1346
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: So Cornell, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, I know are off the board.

1347
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 3: So we got Columbia Brown, and then what are the

1348
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 3: other ones? Penn Pens off the board for sure?

1349
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 8: Yeah? Wait, how many do we have here? That's is

1350
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 8: that eight? Because there's only eight schools in the IVY League?

1351
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 3: We're missing one for sure, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Brown, Brown,

1352
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 3: and Dartmouth. Those are final answers.

1353
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: Show me Brown one of their stories when they made

1354
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: it to the championship team that they hadn't been since

1355
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, And show me Dartmouth nineteen thirty and

1356
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: the last time Dartmouth made it to the tournament. The

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01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 2: other school, Columbia nineteen sixty eight, was.

1358
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 3: Last missing a school? Or did we get all eight?

1359
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 3: I actually thought you got all all of that, but

1360
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 3: I think the only one you were missing was Penn

1361
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 3: and they had made it. It was the one that yeah, yes,

1362
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 3: all right, three for three.

1363
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 2: See you worked us out Ivy League, chrisp all right,

1364
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 2: Aaron Tora's name school didn't get into name three of

1365
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 2: four sites that will host a Final four in the

1366
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: following next four years, not including this year in Glendale, Arizona,

1367
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: but three of the four final four sites in the

1368
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 2: next four years.

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01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 3: All right, san Antonio is one next four years? Twenty five,

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01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 3: twenty six, twenty seven, and twenty eight? Was Vegas? Twenty

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: eight or twenty nine? Okay? So what did I say?

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01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 3: San Antonio's one? Okay, Indianapolis, I feel very confident is one.

1373
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 3: They like to host them. They do like to host them.

1374
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 3: I think Atlanta might be in the mix as well.

1375
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 3: So you said twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, Yep,

1376
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 3: I think Vegas is twenty eight. So my final answer,

1377
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna save wired for the final question is Indianapolis,

1378
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 3: san Antonio, and Vegas.

1379
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: All right, Show me san Antonio, yep, they get it

1380
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: next year, Show me Indianapolis they get it in twenty

1381
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: twenty six, and show me Las Vegas there it is

1382
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty seven Motown heading to.

1383
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 3: Back to Detroit. That I actually knew that.

1384
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: Perfet was just waiting in the wings to say twenty

1385
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 2: twenty seven.

1386
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 3: I actually didn't know that though, all right.

1387
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: Then he wasn't. Maybe Kevin Wyert was. He is the

1388
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: last lifeline for Aaron Torres if needed.

1389
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 3: Steve Hartman makes sure to make your way to the updates. Student.

1390
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: Well, I know Steve knows this one, and I'm actually

1391
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 2: pretty sure you know it as well. Aaron Torres named

1392
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: four of the five No name four of the five

1393
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 2: schools Duke has beaten in a national championship game.

1394
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 3: Why are you want to chime in at all? Yeah,

1395
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 3: I know they beat Butler. That was a great game.

1396
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 3: That was actually one I didn't think of, So yes,

1397
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 3: I will. Butler is an answer. Michigan is an answer

1398
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 3: in ninety two. Wisconsin, sorry, Dan is an answer from fifteen.

1399
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 3: And so we're talking about ninety one where they beat

1400
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: UNLV in the semi final and where they beat Kansas

1401
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 3: in the final. So that's my final answer. And I

1402
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 3: think one was Arizona, but I'm almost positive of on that.

1403
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 3: So final answer is Michigan, Wisconsin, Kansas and Kevin Wyrets

1404
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: Butler Bulldogs. Okay, show me Michigan.

1405
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: Yes, nineteen ninety two, the second leg of the back

1406
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: to back, show me Kansas. That was the first leg

1407
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 2: of the back to back in Indianapolis, famous Grant Hill

1408
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: dunk from the rafters, right, the Mark Randall led Kansas Jayhawks.

1409
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 2: Show me the Butler Bulldogs.

1410
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: Oh baby, Hayward and Brad Stevens. Yes, yep.

1411
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 2: And then show me the Wisconsin Badgers.

1412
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: I didn't get the bell. I got worried.

1413
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: Perfet mixes it up here. He's got a little different taste.

1414
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: There's also an applause. Yeah, there's a whole whole shebang.

1415
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 3: Yup.

1416
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 2: And they beat Arizona in two thousand and one. One one.

1417
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: I think kind of gets lost in the mix. And

1418
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: the reason I think he gets lost in the mix

1419
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: is because of what happened in two thousand and two.

1420
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 3: Jay Williams.

1421
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they ended up losing to Indiana and then

1422
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 2: Maryland ended up cutting down the nets.

1423
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: That was That was when Torres became a little bit

1424
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 3: of a college hoops officionado. Because I remember saying Jay

1425
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: Williams was like, so people make fun of Jay Williams

1426
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 3: as the talking head. He was such a good college

1427
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 3: basketball player, but he was like a sixty two percent

1428
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 3: free throw shooter, and I remember being like, at some point,

1429
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: little little teeny tiny Torres was like, at some point

1430
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 3: that free throw shooting is gonna cost him. I was

1431
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 3: probably sixteen at that point. But yes it did, Yes

1432
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: it did, and he missed him against Indiana, and Indiana

1433
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: has never been back to a Final four since. That

1434
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 3: is another that's easy, as you know, zero one, two, three, four, five,

1435
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 3: zero Final four appearances since so two for Indiana.

1436
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: I'll never forget Mike Davis pounding the you know, oh.

1437
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 3: What he done? Why would you follow? What are you doing?

1438
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 2: But Indiana survivor then made it, yeah, all the way

1439
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: to the championship game. So to your point of the

1440
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: Final four appearance, he's erin Torres, I'm Dan byer Buck,

1441
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: guys in Blue Devils in a tight one in the

1442
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 2: women's bracket, the Buffaloes and Golden Eagles a tight one

1443
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: in the men's bracket. Plus why every school should follow

1444
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: what IOWA did with Caitlin Clark. I think that this

1445
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: is really cool. I think it's really awesome.

1446
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

1447
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: About it next year on Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports Sunday.

1448
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. He's Aaron Torres. Marquette up five on Colorado,

1449
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 2: sixty nine to sixty four, eight minutes left to go,

1450
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: and that one was tied just a little bit ago,

1451
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: and Golden Eagles went on a little run here to

1452
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: retake the lead. Women's Tournament. Ohio State and Duke in

1453
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 2: a tight one. They're five minutes left in the fourth

1454
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: quarter and Duke has just taken a two point lead

1455
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 2: at fifty nine to fifty seven. Iowa, the top one

1456
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 2: of the top seeds in the women's tournament, picked up

1457
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: their first win of the tournament yesterday with a win

1458
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 2: against holy Cross. And I want to bring this point up, Aaron.

1459
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 2: The last time that we saw Iowa on that court

1460
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:01,480
Speaker 2: was against this Ohio State team in the regular season finale,

1461
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 2: and it was quite a game, Caitlyn Clark saying her

1462
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: swan song. And I don't know if they had it

1463
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: at that point, but I didn't notice it. But I

1464
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: noticed it yesterday that they have marked a spot on

1465
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 2: the floor at cover a Hawkeye Arena from where Caitlyn

1466
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 2: Clark broke the all time scoring record for NCAA Women's

1467
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: Division one basketball.

1468
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 3: That's cool.

1469
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: It is a really really awesome thing to do. And

1470
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: what I there's a couple of things that I love

1471
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: about it. And if you look, all they have is

1472
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: that they have a little number twenty two and I

1473
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: think it says Clark underneath it. It's not enormous, but

1474
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: if you look at the court, you will always see it.

1475
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: It doesn't stand out, it doesn't take up, you know,

1476
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 2: one eighth of the court. It's just this little square

1477
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: of where she hit the shot. And as someone who

1478
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 2: loves that part of like sports history, when you go

1479
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: into an arena and you look back and you say, oh,

1480
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 2: I remember when this shot was here and that shot

1481
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: was here, all of that stuff. I just thought it

1482
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: was really cool that IOWA put that on the floor

1483
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 2: and figured out a way to commemorate Caitlyn Clark's a

1484
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 2: record setting the shot that ended up breaking the record.

1485
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 3: As someone who's relatively anti Caitlyn Clark coverage, that is

1486
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 3: pretty cool. I'm not gonna lie so that is where

1487
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 3: that is actually very cool. Are there?

1488
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: Are you a history person at any point do you

1489
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: go into an arena or going to a Field and say, oh,

1490
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: this is where that happened.

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01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about that, but I am a historian.

1492
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 3: Like I went to fog Olan field House for the

1493
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 3: first time in December when you come played there, and

1494
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 3: it was I was there. I was the guy that

1495
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: was there five hours early. You know, you go to

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01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: the museum, Oh, go to the school store. Oh sure,

1497
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 3: my Kansas basketball shirt right now that I bought at

1498
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 3: the school store. Was funny when I when I went

1499
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 3: to the store, they have a store attached to the arena.

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01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 3: I met other I mean I was there to cover

1501
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: the game, but I met other Yukon fans and they

1502
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: were like, yeah, it's kind of weird buying the other

1503
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 3: team's gear, but your fog out of the fieldhouse, you

1504
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: gotta buy something. Yeah. So no, I am absolutely that guy.

1505
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 3: And you know it's been a minute since I went

1506
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: to Yankee Stadium, but you know, go to Monument Park,

1507
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 3: do that kind of stuff, like you know, so, yes,

1508
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: I am very much a historian of sports. And if

1509
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 3: I went to Iowa, I would probably go to whatever

1510
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 3: museum they have commemorating Caitlyn Clark, and I know they're

1511
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 3: really good at wrestling and da da da dah.

1512
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 2: So yes there when you believe that they still have it,

1513
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 2: I am not sure if because it, of course at

1514
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: times has been revamped. But at TPC Sawgrass where the

1515
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: Players Championship was last week, there have been a lot

1516
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 2: of There have been a lot of memorable things there.

1517
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: They have spots throughout the course. Little it'll be. It'll

1518
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: maybe bigger than a fifty, you know, like a you know,

1519
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: a silver dollar, bigger than that, but maybe the size

1520
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: of us just a sprinkler head would probably be Apropos

1521
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 2: where Hal Sutton hit his you know, be the right

1522
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: club today is in the eighteenth fairway. They had other

1523
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 2: spots and it's throughout the course. Ben Hogan's one iron

1524
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: at Marian there's a plaque there. A couple you know,

1525
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: golf courses like to do this from this spot. Someone

1526
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 2: hit the shot. Justin Thomas shot sixty three at the

1527
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: US Open in twenty seventeen eagle the par five eighteenth

1528
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 2: at Aaron Hills. Aaron Hills put just a little shamrock

1529
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: from where he hit his three wood, which was you know,

1530
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty, two hundred and seventy yards away.

1531
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 2: I love that sort of stuff. So in seeing where

1532
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark hit the shot, it just it's a it's

1533
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: a piece of history. And the two things that I

1534
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: just wanted to point out that we're I think it

1535
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 2: says a lot number one, when you actually see the

1536
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: location of the shot and how far away it is

1537
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: from the three point line, it's pretty ridiculous, sure, you know,

1538
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: and and that represents who she is. But they also

1539
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: so didn't put a spot at the free throw line

1540
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: when she broke Pete Maravich's like, there's no fake record breaking,

1541
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 2: which was something that I, you know, just kind of

1542
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 2: started to tire a little of it. It wasn't her fault,

1543
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: it was everybody else trying to piggyback and cash in

1544
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: on the Caitlin Clark thing. They put a spot where

1545
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 2: she broke the women's record and put a mark on

1546
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,799
Speaker 2: the floor, and I just thought that that was pretty cool.

1547
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 3: You know what's funny. And I saw a Doug Gottliepho

1548
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 3: I know you work with Monday through Friday, was really

1549
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 3: the first one to go in on the why are

1550
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 3: we comparing Caitlin Clark to Pete Marrivitch thing, And it

1551
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 3: didn't I didn't like it, but it didn't really bother

1552
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 3: me and I Doug was the first one that I saw,

1553
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 3: and I think it opened the floodgates for everybody else

1554
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 3: to be like, yeah, it's kind of ridiculous that, like,

1555
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 3: why are we comparing her to Pete Maravich. One has

1556
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 3: nothing to do with the other. They're not the same sport.

1557
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 3: There was no three point line. Pete Marrivitch only played

1558
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 3: three years because he wasn't eligible as a freshman. It's like,

1559
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 3: and so I just bring it up because I didn't

1560
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 3: know that would become a dish course. But I agree

1561
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 3: with Doug, and I don't want to speak for Doug,

1562
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: but I think you sound the same way as like,

1563
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 3: that was such a ridiculous thing to like, oh, I

1564
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 3: mean she broke Pete Merrivitch's record. She's like, no, no,

1565
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: she didn't, because she's not playing the same sport.

1566
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 2: We were on the Sunday that it was happening. I

1567
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: was doing the Sunday Show and I said as much

1568
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 2: then of that game, you were not like you weren't

1569
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: with me that day. But it just it felt like

1570
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: it was manufactured a great That's that's what it was,

1571
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: because there was a countdown to it and then she

1572
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 2: ended up breaking it. But I just even said it

1573
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: at the day, I said this the Michigan when she

1574
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: hit it against Michigan to break the record in the

1575
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 2: game that I believe was on Peacock, you know, like

1576
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 2: that's the true one. This one just seemed like trying

1577
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: to get more yea, you know, like Fox too, So

1578
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 2: like I mean, you know, even with that, it just yeah,

1579
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 2: to me, it didn't didn't necessarily feel right.

1580
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess you started the discourse. I agree

1581
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 3: with you.

1582
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 2: Just did not do it in the way that Doug

1583
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: Gottlieb was was feverishly. I just did it more in passing,

1584
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 2: like you know, and it just didn't feel organic, didn't

1585
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: feel like it was true to form, like everything else

1586
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: was all right. Marquette's up five six minutes to go

1587
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: in the matchup in Indianapolis in that two to ten matchup.

1588
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 2: Winner of that game gets NC State coming up on Friday.

1589
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 2: So for Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Beyer keep it locked

1590
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,920
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1591
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,639
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1592
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