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Speaker 1: Hey best friend? Or are you my best friend? Or

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Speaker 1: is this just for cameras? Do we do this for show?

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Speaker 1: Because this is our job, and our job is a business.

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Speaker 2: And I pay attention to my businesses. That is number one.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want people to be fooled by what

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Speaker 2: My name is Lily Muruda, and right now I am

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Speaker 2: recording at the world's foremost most popular and successful podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: When iHeartRadio. When I walk through the hallway today, I

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Speaker 1: I don't have the magnitude of Iheart's reach.

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Speaker 2: So it'd be like I want to dance with somebody

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Speaker 2: Oh honey, So Bethany being the how she says, late thirties, broke,

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Speaker 1: advantage of COVID because when other people are afraid, that's

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Speaker 1: when you need to be moving.

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Speaker 2: That says, so you all the time.

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Speaker 1: This is so me and as you know, like I

442
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Speaker 1: only put money in the market. When the market goes down.

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Speaker 2: I buy the deal, but it goes out, I buy

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Speaker 2: in the depp.

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Speaker 1: And like that is one of my favorite things is

446
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Speaker 1: to call my stockbroker and say when everyone else is crying,

447
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 1: that's when we're smiling. I want to give you money

448
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 1: when there's blood on the floor. So she talks about

449
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Speaker 1: how she was like all the people were like leaving

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Speaker 1: Manhattan and like buying up state, and like we all know,

451
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Speaker 1: like there's this huge real estate boom upstate. All these

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Speaker 1: prices went insane and people could all these insane deals

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Speaker 1: on Manhattan apartments because everyone was fleeing. But she takes

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Speaker 1: this opportunity to buy a house in Connecticut, which I

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Speaker 1: don't really understand. I'm like, I thought she was gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, oh, I found a great deal on like

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Speaker 1: a Soho apartment and flipped it, but like she doesn't

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Speaker 1: buy Manhattan real estate at that time, which I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of like, I feel like that's a huge missed opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I think it is as No, she wouldn't. She was

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Speaker 2: more pushing in that whole story that she saw it

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Speaker 2: as an amazing time to get her daughter into fancy

463
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Speaker 2: NYC private schools because everyone was so focused on washing

464
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Speaker 2: their groceries with Lyesol that no one was like focused.

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Speaker 1: On Dalton and Thera. She was just like, because of

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Speaker 1: my work with the Just B Philanthropy, which is the

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Speaker 1: most nearest and dearest bucket out of all my buckets.

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Speaker 1: To my heart, I know what it's like to be

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Speaker 1: a first responder on a crisis. So I attacked the

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Speaker 1: situation like a first responder. And you're talking about getting

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Speaker 1: brand into Dalton as being a first responder to Hurricane Marie.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually like because she actually is always like on

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Speaker 2: so many private planes to Puerto Rico, like delivering food

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Speaker 2: why she wasn't bragging about that more.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's done that on the show like to

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Speaker 1: an extent. I mean, I don't know if you've ever

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Speaker 1: seen the amazing episode where she brings Dirinda to Puerto

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Speaker 1: Rico and like Derinda is talking to some like international

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Speaker 1: aborder and she is like even for Derinda, she's so blackout,

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Speaker 1: it's like insane, and she's learn her word and she's

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Speaker 1: going to score and she's like being like super problematic

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Speaker 1: about her whal culture and society.

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Speaker 2: And just you don't say anymore, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and just like saying that just like no

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Speaker 1: one and Hadi is ever going to succeed in their life,

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Speaker 1: and her face is like falling into a playton. Bethany's

488
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Speaker 1: like so mortified. She's like, wait the fuck up because

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Speaker 1: she like thought she was going to expose Derinda to

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Speaker 1: all the amazing charity work that she's doing.

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Speaker 2: I love it. It's like that's choice. Like Luanne at

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Speaker 2: least would have been more countess about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she had mee the calculation that Derinda was

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Speaker 1: actually the more like real than like lu Anne or Sonya,

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Speaker 1: who are so in La La land and like romnobviously

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Speaker 1: it's not going to Haiti or Puerto Rico. She's gonna

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Speaker 1: be like completely freaked out.

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Speaker 2: So sketched. I want to get into skinny Girl numbers

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Speaker 2: and the swimsuit and the selling to HSN and kind

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Speaker 2: of all the different properties under skinny Girl.

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Speaker 1: Wait, could I just read at some point it just

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Speaker 1: started keeping a list of all the insane aphorisms that

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Speaker 1: she please keeps, and it just does read like a

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Speaker 1: beautiful poem and word of advice to anyone who is

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Speaker 1: starting a business. Let the chips fall where they may.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, You're only as good

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Speaker 1: as your weakest link. Go where the fish are. It's

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Speaker 1: better to keep your mouth shut, play the game, keep

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Speaker 1: it clean, and keep it nice. Know your enemies because

510
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: you do hold all the cards. I'm a straight shooter.

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Speaker 1: You have to understand where people are coming from. Get

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Speaker 1: your ducks in a row, put on your big girl pants,

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Speaker 1: kill them with kindness, and play the field because there

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Speaker 1: is a happy ending. I'm a warrior. Cracks become craters.

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Speaker 1: You're in it to win it for the long haul,

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Speaker 1: because integrity is what happens when no one is looking.

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Speaker 1: If you build it, they will come and like I say,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you have to jump to fly less is more,

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Speaker 1: shake the snow, globe, hunt and gather.

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Speaker 2: The big pants part. She was being so messy bun target,

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Speaker 2: run DNA dud, put on some gangster rap and get

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Speaker 2: your shit to Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She is the most like girl Boss Pultzer. She is

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Speaker 1: one of the adventresses of girl boss culture. And yet

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Speaker 1: she's like, I hate the term girl boss. I think

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Speaker 1: of myself as exceeding because I'm a woman. I've never

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Speaker 1: thought about the opportunities that have helped me back because

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Speaker 1: I'm a woman. I'm sorry, I just don't like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I was brought with the race strap.

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Speaker 2: She's like, sorry, as someone who is brought up at

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Speaker 2: the races, it's race life. And she's like, my mother

532
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Speaker 2: was giving me a fake idea of one of her

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Speaker 2: ow pairs so I can good Palladium an Area and

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Speaker 2: other NYC nightclubs.

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Speaker 1: And she's like, and I didn't agree with Cheryl Sandberg

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Speaker 1: when she came on my award winning podcast.

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Speaker 2: Bethany, which was a name that's my name. Actually, she's

538
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Speaker 2: always saying Bethany is what I use for my brand.

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Speaker 2: When it's about like innovative, elevated, cultivated wind.

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Speaker 1: And she talks about like the decision to make.

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Speaker 2: Something girl, which is kind of also the entire through

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Speaker 2: line of the book because it's always her coming up

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Speaker 2: with an invention, and the people who are buying it,

544
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Speaker 2: whether it's like a product or like a show, they

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Speaker 2: want to brand it under skinny girl because it's an

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Speaker 2: established brand, which I get. But I was thinking five

547
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Speaker 2: steps ahead, which I always do, and thinking five steps ahead,

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Speaker 2: I knew that with cancel culture being so big right now,

549
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 2: skinny and girl was not the thing to go with

550
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Speaker 2: my curvy swimwear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she definitely like figured that out eventually. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: and skinny girl does make sense for some products such

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Speaker 1: as low calorie cookies and energy drinks and single serving

554
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: premium used cocktails. She also says, which I invented.

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Speaker 2: She's like, you see a cookbook, oh, skinny pizza or

556
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: not trademark skinny girl. And she said she invented like

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Speaker 2: putting skinny before that, which I kind of actually will

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Speaker 2: give it to her a little, but also like not

559
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Speaker 2: like I'm gonna do it for fun.

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Speaker 1: I need like calling a product skinny because it has

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Speaker 1: less calories it's very obvious. B I think I've seen

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Speaker 1: that on diner menus even in the nineties, right, like

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Speaker 1: the skinny.

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Speaker 2: The skinny menu, it was like skinny yea cheese. It's

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Speaker 2: always cotta juice, which I'm still kind of afraid of,

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Speaker 2: even though I'm such a hound eats everything.

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Speaker 1: You're being like, sorry on popular opinion, I don't like

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Speaker 1: cottage cheese.

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Speaker 2: I feel like everyone's so obsessed with coudon juice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, welcome to TikTok twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: We can sorry is that too late for you? Sorry?

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Speaker 2: I don't like social media. I'm off my phone. I'm

573
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Speaker 2: not creating businesses. If actually you saw that on social media,

574
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Speaker 2: I wasn't a part of that, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Lily, It's actually really important to stay on top of trends.

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Speaker 1: Read the room, see where the ship is going, and

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00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: go where the fish are, because the fish are at

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Speaker 1: the Cottage Cheese Bar and they have been.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait. When she says that she hates plan stalkers,

580
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: she goes, look, I hate plan stalkers. If I make

581
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: a plan with you, with your my close friend, and

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Speaker 2: it happens, I stick to the plan unless something horrible happens,

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00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: I will be there. She's like, So, for example, a

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Speaker 2: friend of mine's wife was having a book event, so

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Speaker 2: I go to the book event. He thought it would

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00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: popularize his wife's book if I went there. My friend

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Speaker 2: was texting me, do you want to hang out after?

588
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: And I said, I don't know because I don't know

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00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: when the event will end. We get out of the event,

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00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: I say, I can have dinner. We make a reservation

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00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: in the NYC restaurant. Then she's blown up my phone.

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Speaker 2: She's blown up Paul's phone, saying where are you? I

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Speaker 2: call An. I had a serious talking with her, stop

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Speaker 2: plan stoking me.

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Speaker 1: She's weirdly like so protective over some stuff, and she's

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Speaker 1: just like, I will not give away the details of

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Speaker 1: my business or I will not tell you who I

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00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: just met with, because that is privileged information that you

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Speaker 1: could use against me in the field of business, because

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Speaker 1: business is war and it's personal.

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Speaker 2: In her rending, she's like, I'm obsessed with being in

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00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: pj's and like rolling in the dirt, like with my

603
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: daughter Brian, and like getting sushi and having movie nights,

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Speaker 2: and I hate schmoozing, and like when she says that

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00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, actually, my friends and I like, we're

606
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: so close and I love to connect with them, and

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Speaker 2: I love when my friends connect with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, who are your friends?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she goes, it's it tight ten to twenty people.

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Speaker 1: Sels I reveals that she's been snowboarding for twenty years.

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Speaker 2: It was insane.

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Speaker 1: I was like, excuse me, did you ever watch The

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Speaker 1: Big Shot with Bethany?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I mean, yeah, yeah, I guess I thought you

615
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Speaker 2: remember us talking about it.

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Speaker 1: It was like two years ago.

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Speaker 2: To be completely honest and transparent with you, I never watched,

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00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: like the Last Night. I didn't finish.

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Speaker 1: I didn't fit see who she picked. But that show

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00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: was so funny because the casting was so whack and

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Speaker 1: random and they'd just gotten these random, like forty year

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Speaker 1: old moms.

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Speaker 2: To be her assistance. She really goes. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: thought she broke it down very well of just like talking.

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Speaker 1: About how oh, I mean, she didn't shut up about

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Speaker 1: that show.

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00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: How like random it God, And she was trusting her

628
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: gut and she was ready to call it off because

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Speaker 2: she was like, these people are so random, the show

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Speaker 2: is random. And she was being like the crew wasn't

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Speaker 2: getting the real moments.

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Speaker 1: But the funny thing is there was such a weird,

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Speaker 1: like sort of solypsism to this whole description, and then

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Speaker 1: it was rounding me how the show was like that too,

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00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: because she was saying like they were kind of trying

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Speaker 1: to produce it and shoot it like any other reality show.

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00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: So it's like this competition where people are gonna work

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00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: for Bethany. They were at her Hampton's house and they

639
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: were like shooting late into the night and they had

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Speaker 1: all of these like women who had been sequestered, so

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00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: they like wouldn't know what's happening. And then they're coming

642
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: it's very like Bachelor style. They're coming to the mansions.

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00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: Like roses, and there's a happy hour. They would have

644
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: like happy hours in a Bachelor way, but it was

645
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: actually Bethanie watching people to make sure people didn't drink

646
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: too much, like work of friends and like checking them

647
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: just being like you should know you should have only

648
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: one to two drinks out of work event and not

649
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Speaker 2: get out of country.

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Speaker 1: It's actually way work into camera. And then like so

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Speaker 1: in this book she's talking about how she's waiting to

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Speaker 1: shoot and they have her up in like hair and makeup,

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Speaker 1: and she's thin and I'm sitting there, I'm really anxious,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, I bet that's where you are all

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Speaker 1: the time. And she's like, and I'm wondering, why don't

656
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Speaker 1: they have a camera on meet because this is the show.

657
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: This is the show getting ready to shoot it, and

658
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: this is the real thing, and this is how the

659
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: sausage just made. But then it's like when you watch

660
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: the show, the whole show is her saying this is

661
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: how the sausage is made, and it's like always collapsing

662
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: in on itself of her just being like, you need

663
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: to show this. You need to show me walking, and

664
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: you need to show me actually getting the mail and

665
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: realizing that me reading the mail and figuring out who's

666
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna go to you ps is how the sausage is made.

667
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: When I was reading that, though, I was a little

668
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: bit like, wait, if you had a competition show, that

669
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: would be kind of you. I feel like there would

670
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: be a director, but you would be like, are you

671
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: getting this because this is the show. You'd be like, actually,

672
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: me going to Honeymoon is the show. They're like, we know, babe,

673
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: Like let's let's move it along.

674
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: As I'm walking, I'm just being like and here it is.

675
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: People don't realize that part of the process that it

676
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 1: is to me is going and getting the coffee or

677
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: the macha.

678
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: She's like, at one point, I lost my keys and

679
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: they weren't filming that. They wanted me to find my

680
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: keys to film that, and I said, no, no, no,

681
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: this is the show. And then she tells this long

682
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: story about this girl like who was her assistant named Zoe.

683
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: She was like, she was a mess and I realize,

684
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: you know what, this girl's nice, so I moved her

685
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: to household manager. Unfortunately that job didn't work out either.

686
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: And sometimes you need to cut the link.

687
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: You're only as strong as your weaked thing, as she says,

688
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: a good messuse can only give one massage at a time.

689
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: When she talks about other amazing like female entrepreneurs like

690
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: Kathy Ireland, who Kathy Ireland's real.

691
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: Estate no the list, I had to go back and

692
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: rewind it because I was like, did you just say

693
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: what I thought you did? And when she was like

694
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: Kathy Ireland one of my favorite American models. She started

695
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: a sock business, which she grew into a HEMP insurance

696
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: and substance abuse center business, and then she was like what.

697
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: And then she was like Kathy Island, of course known

698
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: for her real estate company, and I was like, what

699
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: she goes? She pivoted because she realized the middle class

700
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: was growing, so instead of luxury houses, she made affordable

701
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: housing units filled with her like home shopping network, like

702
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: socks and furniture, And you're like, what are these scary? Scary?

703
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: First, it's like noticing an incredibly broad like general economic trend.

704
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: A poor means that you should have a business that

705
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: makes hemp products, socks, sells. Insurance opens up substance abuse

706
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: recovery centers, which are by.

707
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: Your affordable housing units that are filled with your like QBC.

708
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, I'll give it to Kathy Ireland.

709
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: I see Kathy Ireland's name on every pree damn thing,

710
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: and it's always some piece of shit. It's like some

711
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: flammable fleace blanket to pans.

712
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: And it's like Bethany pretends that her products aren't literally

713
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: so flammable. And remember there was that whole lawsuit about

714
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: it Skinny Skinny Girl because poisoning, and they literally even

715
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: in the lawsuit they couldn't actually say what was in

716
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: the drink because it's literal poison. Yeah, it is all

717
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: chemical poison.

718
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: It's their whole thing about skinny girls being I wanted

719
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: to make a low calorie drink for women who are

720
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: calorie conscious to drink at the bar that isn't sugary.

721
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: And if you have tasted, is Skinny Girl margarine.

722
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: So full of like next generation stvia that they are

723
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: actually putting in like.

724
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: Rockets, like the sweetest rocket fuel you have ever ever tasted.

725
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: It is the most discussing drink on planet e.

726
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: It's so metallic, it's so chemical, it's so unnatural, like

727
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: you feel like your insights are burning when you drink it.

728
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: And she's like, I was actually solving two problems which

729
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: no one had done before. It was low calorie and

730
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: it was also women ready to go cocktail. It was

731
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: pre mixed, which is convenient and saves you time.

732
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: No one has the problem.

733
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: No one has the problems. Like, I feel like half

734
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: of the trend actually in the cocktail industry is like

735
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: actually caking cocktails. Skining Girl was just like women need

736
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: like a full bottle that they're just gonna pour over

737
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: glasses while they're all getting together at their studio apartment,

738
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: and like covetching over their cookie business with each and at.

739
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: This like holiday party that Bethany has, like she gets

740
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: a full ice luge with Gray Goose and everyone is like,

741
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: now this is fun.

742
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: Now, this is fun, which is so gimmicky and instagram

743
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: right in it gets people talking. But there is the

744
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: thing with her where I'm just like, there's a really

745
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: contradiction to your own advice of saying that you should

746
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: be passionate about a product, I really care what you're doing,

747
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: because it's like.

748
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: The product is so bad, the product is a so.

749
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: Bad be there's ten of them. There's no way that

750
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: Kathy Ireland is passionate about HEMP insurance substance abuse and

751
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: is who she.

752
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: Talks about who is an amazing entrepreneur r R p R I.

753
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: P r R I p r R rest really rest

754
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: in power.

755
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Susanne Summers, who invented the Firemaster after she pivoted and

756
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: was fired from Three's company for.

757
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: Having the audacity to ask for too much money.

758
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know, I mean, you know.

759
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: She joins a long line of women like Catherine Heigel

760
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: and Kim Katrol who asked for too much.

761
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: For too much, Oh no, woman is just supposed to

762
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: sit down and drink her skinny drink. So she sells.

763
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: She claims, she's so passionate, this is an amazing contail.

764
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: She sells off Skinny Girl to gym.

765
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Beam Beam and she keeps.

766
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: Beam I knew would take care of the product. Beam

767
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: and she goes, but she goes. It went from seven

768
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: hundred fifty cases five hundred cases. Now they're only doing

769
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty. But it's like that it's.

770
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: Because the product is just dated, and like people want

771
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: better tasting things from their cocktails because the drink market

772
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: is only growing. So it's like, that's the product.

773
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: We don't even have time to go into her wine

774
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 2: journey where she might.

775
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: Be like, so, of course, if you're launching a wine product,

776
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: think about how you can integrate your different businesses. I

777
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: wore a pink dress with beautiful floral rooshes on it

778
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: to a friend's birthday party that I would be capturing

779
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: on social media with my assistant, the perfect dress for

780
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: integrating a wine launch into a friend's birthday.

781
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: And then she has a wine launch. She's not about

782
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: the dress during the big shot with Bethany, but she's

783
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: like my partner, he wasn't thinking five steps ahead, so

784
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: he didn't want to trademark our wine in thirty other

785
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: categories of patents. Well, and he said, you have to

786
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: blur the wine out. And I said, you're making a

787
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: huge mistake, huge mistake. And so then she talks about

788
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: how like she makes underwear and bathing suits and all

789
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: these like other skinny D products and she was like

790
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: and they weren't selling, so the buyer wanted to put

791
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: them in stores like TJ Max, j C Penny Marshalls. Now,

792
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: do not get me wrong, I love TJ Max. I

793
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: live at TJ Max. It's like we know you did,

794
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: Like she lives at the Bridgehampton TJ Max.

795
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: No, And because like whenever you say on their show

796
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: and like when they like go on like whatever one

797
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: of their trips, she's always like buying so much random

798
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: crap and so many more vests and hats and they're

799
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: all just like there goes Bethany again, like she's addicted

800
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: to mining like all the most rando muggers hit she

801
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: already has, and.

802
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: Like she was saying that like then she was mad

803
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: that like she wanted people to not even think TJ

804
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: Max was bad.

805
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: Well, she was like, no, and I love their products.

806
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: They sell great products, but these bathing suits were so

807
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: bad that she didn't even want them selling them TJ

808
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Max with her name on them. I appreciated this extremely

809
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: long section about the bathingsuit debacle, but I felt like

810
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: she wasn't taking responsibility because what happens is she's doing

811
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: this a baby suit line for all for all sizes

812
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: and swimwear. It's very difficult for all weeks women. She goes, thankfully,

813
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: I look amazing swims and so she's having all these meetings.

814
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: She's like, I only saw the samples on Zoom. Then

815
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: we were like one week away from it was like

816
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: the day of the social media launch, her free launch,

817
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: and it was the first time she had seen the sample,

818
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: and she was like, it didn't fit me. Well, it

819
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: didn't fit any of my staff. While like they were

820
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: shitty and the fabric was too thick, and she was like,

821
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: maybe should I have seen the samples, like before they

822
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: went into the production. That's possibly something we could have done,

823
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: but it didn't happen. It's like no, no, definitely something

824
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: you should have done it.

825
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: She acts like they didn't give her a chance. So

826
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: when they were.

827
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: Actual she was blaming the fucking factory that she parted

828
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: with them, Like, Babe, the fact that you didn't ask

829
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: to see the samples before it went to.

830
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: Production, literally the baby before it went out.

831
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: We do this notably small scale. We're not getting like

832
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of fucking baby from China.

833
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: We are seeing the shirt, We're seeing the sample, We're

834
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: seeing the shirt before we're putting it out.

835
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Because I'm not going to put my name on something

836
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: that I don't like that I don't think works, period.

837
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: And she's like, so I talked to the business and

838
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: they're ready to sue Bethany as honestly they should HSN.

839
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she had had this deal with them and

840
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: they were supposed to go live with all these products.

841
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, they actually only fixed the size

842
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: zero of the.

843
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: Bathing and they had put up some of the capital

844
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: for the initial production run. Yeah, that's why they were

845
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: going to sue her.

846
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: Basically, at any point, this is the problem you have

847
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: too many buckets, is things get lost and then you're

848
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: mad and you blame it on other people.

849
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: I just for me personally, I cannot imagine going into

850
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: large scale production without a bathing suit without seeing any

851
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: physical product, without seeing the samples in my hands, without

852
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: touching them with my own hands, period.

853
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: And especially if it was so bad the first time.

854
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, like there's already a bad track record

855
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: with the production.

856
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: And then of course she goes in the whole thing

857
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: about how it's like skinny girl branded, but like she

858
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: wants it to be called Bethany because.

859
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: She has a back and forth age and ten and

860
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: she read the room and she saw where the culture was,

861
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: and she went where the fish are, and she understood

862
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: that she couldn't call it skinny girl because literally girls

863
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: are not skinny and needs to be for the curve market.

864
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: And we love our curve girls. And she goes, oh,

865
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: and I hate the word plus size. I hate the

866
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: word plus size.

867
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: That is a trend in plus size clothing is.

868
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: Because plus size is so nineties and L and Brian,

869
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: you're supposed to say curvy.

870
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: Because curve is like it's actually also.

871
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: So condescending to me. I love the gym curve, I.

872
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: Know, but I also think curve is it's like, well,

873
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: what if you're not curvy. It's like you can be

874
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: large and not curvy. So then you're just curve. It

875
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: seems more like that's a shape, not a size.

876
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: No, I mean it's also the whole thing that we're

877
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: not talking about.

878
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: And you can and small.

879
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: Bethany obviously has a eating disorder.

880
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's I mean obviously, if you've ever

881
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: seen her speak for seven seconds, you can tell she's

882
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: an eating disorder.

883
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: And that's like her way of processing is always like

884
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: eating Chinese food on TikTok for thirty minutes straight. And

885
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: I used to watch them, but like at this point,

886
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: like they're honestly too long and two character and I

887
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: feel like I'm.

888
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: Like part of some stay of her recently where she's

889
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: scooping out of bagel and putting cottage. She's and hot

890
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: sauce on it, and it's like the most eating sort

891
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: of thing I've ever seen.

892
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 2: But then there was one where she goes to Red

893
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: Lobster and she talks about all of her employees and

894
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: she's like trying to get her like driver to like

895
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: dry the huge and she has this huge buttery bag

896
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: of like crab lits. She's like sucking out of them.

897
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: She's like, you want to try these? These are amazing?

898
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: I love read lobster. I love red Lobster, and he's like, no, okay.

899
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: Well all right, well should we move on to the

900
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: tasting portion of this episode. Yeah, we talked about her products,

901
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: but even though she sold it to Jim beIN, she's

902
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: still like obviously still associated with her. But I've seen

903
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: people criticism on Twitter and her respond to the criticism

904
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: by saying, I don't own that brand anymore and I'm

905
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: not affiliate with that brand. So it's like, half the

906
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: time she's not taking response it's ability for Skinny Girl,

907
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: but then half the time she's defending it.

908
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: She's defending and she also said she wants Skinny Girl

909
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: to become a Paul Newman's or like an.

910
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: A like will it become upon Newman's. Only time will tell.

911
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: I just kind of think like Amy's is over.

912
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 2: I feel like there are like the healthy grad school girls.

913
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of my sister who did subsist on Amy's.

914
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: Ye, but your sister's so like world I guess so

915
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: for the World music girls, they're having an Amy's in

916
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: the freezer. I have this one can of like emergency

917
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: like soup on my shelf that I've had for eleven years.

918
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: That I will only crack like when there's a fucking

919
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: Zombia pocaon.

920
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: I really, my girlfriend is like cracking an Amy's lentil,

921
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: like sometimes like on a cold day, Like girls out

922
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: here are still buying a.

923
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: No and amen, parents are still getting Newman's own, right,

924
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: So do you have like Newman's own rattling around?

925
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: I actually have no new and said rattling around.

926
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think buying salad dressing is one of

927
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: the insane, the.

928
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: Biggest scams in the world.

929
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: Because also I just making your own dressing is one

930
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: of the most satisfying things in the world.

931
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: Well, and it's so funny you say that, because I

932
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: brought us here some salad dressing, which I've been very

933
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: curious about because it's the most non needed product. And

934
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: I bought the most non k needed flavor, which is

935
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: just balsamic vinigrette because balsamica regret, say with me, it

936
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: should just be balsamic and olive them maybe a little salt,

937
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: little pepper. Yeah, And it says sugar free dressing, and

938
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: you're like, well, a balsamic finigret if you make it naturally,

939
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: you're usually not porn in the sugar but there's balsamic

940
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: naturally has so, which makes you think she's making a

941
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: diet coke balsamic.

942
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, can I see the ingredients on this bad boy?

943
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: The water cider vinegar, balsamic vinegar. Okay, so there is

944
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: balsamic vinegar in it, which is when vinegar concentrated, grape

945
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: must and camel color, dried onion, salt, dried red and

946
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: green peppers, xanthem, gun guagum, dry garlic, sucralose, natural Flavornalie

947
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: knows what that is, potassium serbian and calcium die sodium

948
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: E D t A. Now we're just getting into letters.

949
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: So there's actually no oils technically in it.

950
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like no olive oil. Huh.

951
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: So I brought a little arugula have it.

952
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: I'll look at that gorgeous fresh.

953
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: Kind of just if you want to do a little

954
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 2: mix up. What's on the.

955
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: Nose almost like a burnt a burnt affordable housing unit made.

956
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it does taste like just kind of like

957
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: dusty old parent balsamic that's been like left. Okay, it's

958
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: kind of thick and texture and.

959
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: Really dump it on there. Oh, what you're gonna do

960
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: the girl shake, inside girl shake.

961
00:44:53,520 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: Okay, oh my god, it's.

962
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: No sugar added why.

963
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: It has the tartness, But it's like instantly your tongue

964
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: hits it and it's like this stevia shake. It's like

965
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: why it's the biggest Why.

966
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, for me, there's something really like

967
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: off about it. There's like a tang that's not the

968
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: right now, the tang that they're saying this kind of

969
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: burnt flavor a little bit.

970
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: She's like inspired by definitely what balsamic is in there.

971
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: The's it gets near my mouth right wincing.

972
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you instantly are like, oh, kind of something a

973
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: little bit rotten.

974
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, so yet another disgusting I mean, I guess

975
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: to like get rid of the actual sugar and get

976
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: this down to five calories per serving, like she just

977
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: had to work some crazy evil chemical magic.

978
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: Sodium ninety milligrams. I would like to know if I

979
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: just made though olive oil and balsamic, like.

980
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: With the calorie probably significantly higher than five, Okay.

981
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: That would be like thirty thirty five, fifty.

982
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: Five, Yeah, maybe one hundred. Do you think one hundred

983
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: olive oil is famously clerk good fats I agree the

984
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: far when she talks about how she has a fear

985
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: of dying with unused points. Oh my god, with like

986
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: unused credit card points.

987
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 2: That is the worst fear in the world. And most

988
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: people out here they don't know how to use their points.

989
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: I mean when she was saying that, I was like,

990
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: she is right, Like, no one out there is really

991
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: trying to make it easy. Even the points guy, I

992
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: feel like, is being like, on every other Tuesday, call

993
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: Air Emirates and buy your Amazon or Easy.

994
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: There wouldn't be a point to it. You know. They

995
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: have to make them hard to use, otherwise they're just

996
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: giving you way too much money. If everyone was utilizing

997
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: their points correctly, these financial companies will go bankrupt.

998
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, you have to get a different

999
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: card for different points as five percent back on groceries,

1000
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: but this one works on shipping. So now that's one

1001
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: of my biggest fears. Oh wait, this one part maybe

1002
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: segue us into segments. Is how she got an agent.

1003
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: She was at NOBU and saw the host of America's

1004
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: Most Wanted, so she went up to him so she

1005
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: could talk to his agent. So I'm at NOBU, I

1006
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: see the host of America's most wanted, of course, and.

1007
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: No one was going up to him at the time,

1008
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: but I did. I did, and she was like, and yes,

1009
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: I was motivated to do something I probably shouldn't have done,

1010
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: but you know what, it worked. Light a fire, take

1011
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: the risk, shake.

1012
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: The globe, kill the pig, eat the fat.

1013
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: Listening to this today was making me so crazy. I

1014
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: was on the treadmill listening to this, texting with a

1015
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: friend of the pod who was asking me. He was like,

1016
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: how much should I charge like someone who wants me

1017
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: to create content for them? And I was just like,

1018
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: you are worth it. You need to be charging it

1019
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: at least one k prevent nothing.

1020
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: Less what you're thinking double it?

1021
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, depends on how much money you have.

1022
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: And then he told me the company and I was like, honey,

1023
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: they're drowning in cash. You better ask for a lot.

1024
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, and he was just being like, wow, thank you, Okay,

1025
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: you're right.

1026
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, bitch, You've always been kind of

1027
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 2: more Bethany where you're like asked for what you want.

1028
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm in Bethany mode.

1029
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: Bethany mode. I haven't given anyone business advice yet, but go.

1030
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: Through your Rolodex shaping the snow glob hunting.

1031
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: I hunted and gathered, and I'm actually currently supporting small businesses.

1032
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 2: That's kind of where my buckets and where my bullets.

1033
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: Are at Deisy's MTA.

1034
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: The mt A like buying rye bread from a coffee shop.

1035
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: What does she wear? Nothing? Cottage?

1036
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 2: She literally nothing, but at the same time like everything

1037
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: because that's holds a part of her thing where she's

1038
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: always voracious. She loves, which I do love. She's always

1039
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: doing like hack a Chinese order and she's being like

1040
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: eggfou young is actually the healthiest thing on the menu. Yeah,

1041
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: mushue pork, don't do.

1042
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: The rap, okay. So she wears like she's always in

1043
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: leather jaggames and a vest and like a pleathan.

1044
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: She's the most TJ max person. It's like her summer

1045
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: look is very like when TJ Max has like a

1046
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: display that's like Italy.

1047
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, she is that, but she also is like going

1048
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: to a random boutique in the Hampton's that sells that

1049
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: exact same shit and it probably is way more expensive,

1050
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: and she's like buying like this wide brimmed hat that

1051
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: is seven hundred fifty dollars and looks like a TJ.

1052
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: Max hut and then is like getting the.

1053
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: And the brand is just like Jay McLoughlin.

1054
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: That's that like brand that's is very Hampton's.

1055
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe I'm pronouncing incorrectly, but it's like J Yeah.

1056
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: It's Jay period mcglos.

1057
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like in kind of a I.

1058
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: Also think she's going. So she's getting the jacket at

1059
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: J McLoughlin or whatever, like in Bridgehampton. Then she she's

1060
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 2: going to the Bridgehampton TJ Max seeing a similar way

1061
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: cheaper leather jacket. She's bringing it home and being like, oh,

1062
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: I should return one of these.

1063
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: And then she's he says we need to return this.

1064
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: This is how the sausage is made.

1065
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 2: And she's been like, I can't have all this stuff

1066
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: in my house. Maybe one of the jackets this is

1067
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: gonna return, Maybe it's not. And then, as she claims

1068
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: in this book, she's always like what I want to be.

1069
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: I want to be no makeup, I want to be here,

1070
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: pulled back, I want to be impeaches.

1071
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: But I'm enjoying quality time with my daughter watching films swimsuit.

1072
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: How does she live? I mean, as she says in

1073
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: the book. She's the most anal personal life. She doesn't

1074
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: have a junk drawer.

1075
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: She's like some people do, I don't have a junk drawer.

1076
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: There's a space for everything. I mean, her style is

1077
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: very like glam girl Boss in the sense there's a

1078
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: lot of like chrome and gold and white and like

1079
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: fur pillows on white, like couch with like silver railings,

1080
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: Like everything has like a chrome or silver railing to it.

1081
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's like a Girl Boss that's

1082
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: halfway unpacked. But it's not like there are boxes. There's

1083
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: just not more stuff. Yes, she's like doesn't have a

1084
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: junk drawer, But I feel like it also doesn't really

1085
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: look like she lives there.

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00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: She's always just moving into a place where she's slipping,

1087
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: and it just looks like the whole thing was decorated

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00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 1: yesterday by someone who's staging the house to sell.

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00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 2: I think she's like a huge I think the couch

1090
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: is gray.

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00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's so gray, so very very grey. She's not

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00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: making big choices.

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00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: Who are you in the book?

1094
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I have been a Bethany for many years.

1095
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: Remain in a bethanyman.

1096
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: You ask for what you want and you get it,

1097
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: and if you don't get it, you pivot.

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00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to pivot more. Feel sometimes

1099
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: I've got enough pivoting.

1100
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: Pivot. Yeah, I think you need to sit in your bucket,

1101
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: in the buckets you have going right now.

1102
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: No, you're right, I've actually done so much pivoting.

1103
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, stop pivoting.

1104
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: I need to stop pivoting and like reduce my buckets.

1105
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, reduce the buckets. Sit in the buckets.

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00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

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00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: I think I'm the girl that like gets moved house

1108
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: manager and then gets fired because like and I'm like,

1109
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: why didn't you just like to work for Bethany like

1110
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: so much? Because I'm just like this is fun, But

1111
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: then it's like actually so stressful, and I'm like crying

1112
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: privately in my Honda fit, like after she yells at me,

1113
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: and she's been like, I'm not saying this to be mean,

1114
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest here because I'm Bethany. But you

1115
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: did a horrible job today.

1116
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: Didn't you like almost apply for a job with friend

1117
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: of the Pond missus Dowd Johns. And then she was like, Lily,

1118
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: I just don't think that you're right for this.

1119
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: You're that you're not right, and she being so Bethany

1120
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: about it, and she was being so like, and I

1121
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: want you to thrive and I want this for you.

1122
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what do I give this book? Just

1123
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: like I mean, it did like drive me insane, like like.

1124
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: Is this a book.

1125
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: It's not a book.

1126
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 2: It's not a book.

1127
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: It's her talking, which is all of her businesses are

1128
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: just her talking.

1129
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: And like I did it on Kindle for a little

1130
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: while and I was just like, what's the point of

1131
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 2: reading this and not listening to her voice?

1132
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not meant to be read, definitely not. Then

1133
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 1: you're kind of an extra episode of her past couple episodes. Yeah,

1134
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: so fuck it.

1135
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: Four point five disgusting, disgusting balsamic vinaigrettes out of five.

1136
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I give this like maybe as a book point

1137
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: five toxic shock syndrome Margarita's.

1138
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 2: But as spoken word piece, as.

1139
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: A spoken word piece to like rally the troops and

1140
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: shake the snow globe and hunt and gather. I give

1141
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: this a four out of five.

1142
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: Because of most business books are not giving tea and

1143
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: I just appreciate that she is giving the most Randy

1144
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: about Kathy Ireland's product line and her affrooms are just funny.

1145
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: There's so many. Because some people are issue You're like,

1146
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: oh this is so bland and like fake, but she

1147
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: has so many in there, Yeah, that it becomes performance.

1148
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: Push the wagon, tie.

1149
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: Up the horse, get in the chair, start driving. No map,

1150
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: draw map.

1151
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: As Bethany says, I'm an I dia Hamster, Run the wheel.

1152
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: Us.

1153
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: This podcast was produced by hard Worker Darby Masters. She

1154
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: gets it done, she shakes the globe. She knows her

1155
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: ps and her cues. She knows her ass from her face.

1156
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: And that's a lot more that I can say for

1157
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this business.

1158
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: Our supervising producer is Abu Zafar. We have had a

1159
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: very rocky business relationship. Right now we are doing amazing.

1160
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: I just sold him one of my spirits businesses for

1161
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: seven hundred million dollars.

1162
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: This podcast was produced by Head Bitch and Charge Christina Everett.

1163
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: Our original theme song was created by Steam Phillips Horust.

1164
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: He is someone that I can call any time of day.

1165
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: I trust him with my life in business, I do

1166
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: not trust him with personal information. It is very important

1167
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: to keep those boundaries separate between work and business. There

1168
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: are some people who are the canary in the coal mine,

1169
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: and usually it's women.

1170
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: Art work was done by Teddy Blakes. I started investing

1171
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: in art when I went to the South Beach Food

1172
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 2: and Wine Festival ten years ago. I found this amazing artist.

1173
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: No one knew him. He was actually living on the street.

1174
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: I bought ten of his paintings. I just flip them

1175
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: now for twenty million dollars. Trust your gut even when

1176
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 2: someone says, don't buy something.

1177
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: What I need you to do, because this is essential

1178
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: for our business. Get to go review this podcast. Okay,

1179
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: I need you to go over to the Apple store,

1180
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: to the iTunes store, iHeart and et cetera, and I

1181
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: need you to review this podcast and give it a

1182
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: or be honest. Give it one start, give it two starts.

1183
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: I want your honest feedback.

1184
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: Just be honest.

1185
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: But the honesty is really important because this is how

1186
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: we make our products better is through constant, three hundred

1187
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: seay degree solicited feedback. Please leave a review. I'm begging you.

1188
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: We need it.

1189
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: We originally co created this project with Prolout Projects. Ultimately,

1190
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: sometimes partnerships change.

1191
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: And they go separate ways. And that's okay. It's not personal.

1192
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: It's business except when it is personal, which is always.

1193
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: But sometimes I pick up the phone and I called

1194
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: Prolout Products and I say, I have a business idea.

1195
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: That's up your alley and we can talk.

1196
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: And it is so important to keep those channels of

1197
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: communication open no matter what happens.

1198
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: Grab the wheel, even if it's turned into two boats.

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00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: Buy the ticket, Take the ride. Sins a ship