WEBVTT - Hard Sell: Ohio State vs. Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>And Dean and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal

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<v Speaker 2>as always over there in beautiful Chicago, Illinois, the one,

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<v Speaker 2>the only Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good man? One episode after I said you're going Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>you just flip it. You're really keeping me on my

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<v Speaker 1>edge of my seat. You got to keep it in

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<v Speaker 1>your toes. I love it. I'm pretty good. It's sunny day,

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<v Speaker 1>been playing some tennis. I find myself having to make

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<v Speaker 1>our washed List twenty twenty one, which can we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a plant of the show we can do

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<v Speaker 1>in July when like the Groza and Ray Guy and

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<v Speaker 1>Doku watch lists come out ahead of the season. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's plenty more on that bone in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>washed up things that people can submit and we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'll say washed being things that indicate that

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<v Speaker 2>you are washed up.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning and that we're going to get to our show.

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<v Speaker 1>should I make myself some eggs or something because I

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<v Speaker 1>take advil on an empty stomach. And that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>was this morning, scrambled eggs for advil. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show. I am tie. He is.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, yeah, what's the topic. We have not figured

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<v Speaker 2>please do leave a review. As we start pushing into July, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we're going to start. Talking preview content. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that we did a So Now What

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<v Speaker 2>series where we look back at twenty twenty, despite the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we're doing the Hard Cell mini series now

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<v Speaker 2>where we're comparing and contrasting some recruiting rivals. Before long,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be into the real teeth of the preseason,

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<v Speaker 2>talking all things preview time. I'm very excited for that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not there yet. Trying to contain myself, contain myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I do doing my best to not get excited about

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<v Speaker 2>what feels like is seemingly trending towards more of a

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<v Speaker 2>normal season. So fingers crossed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's what it sounds like. I did

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<v Speaker 1>see my home state fully opened up today. Dodger Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be fully open for a game tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, I'm feeling the vibes tie. However, many

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of miles away, I'm feeling good things in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>good favors we were not able to say for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time there. So I'm really excited and hopeful and

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<v Speaker 1>optimistic on that same page as you are. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to our show, all right, Dan, you know

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<v Speaker 1>we're calling this the hard sell miniseriies, No, you did

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<v Speaker 1>not score that, and wear your Phineas hat. What is

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<v Speaker 1>that from? Again? Super Nintendo College Football of some kind?

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<v Speaker 1>I found it? What was that game? Made me like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember, like, what was that game? Look it

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<v Speaker 1>up for you, SNS college football. Google dot com is

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<v Speaker 1>always your friend. It does not, Rea Bill College Football

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<v Speaker 1>USA ninety seven. Oh yeah. Or there's another one called

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<v Speaker 1>Ncuba Football. So it's one of those, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>an NCAA football with a year. It's you can have

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<v Speaker 1>it for between three and twelve dollars on eBay. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you inclined? I don't know, but wow, those are your options.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it looks like the NC double A one

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<v Speaker 1>has a license. I'm looking at, you know, Clemson as

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<v Speaker 1>a visiting team against South Carolina College Football ninety seven unclear,

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<v Speaker 1>but it looks like a maybe a Tommy Fraser on front.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a game A. Yeah, it's the precursor. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's fun fun to me, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>all that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is the deal, hard Sell is about you taking

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<v Speaker 2>a team, me taking a team, each of us recruiting

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of a school, trying to pull in a

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<v Speaker 2>fictitious player. Last time around, we had Gunner Simpson. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a five star quarterback recruit out of suburban Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the jury has spoken and Gunner Simpson is

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<v Speaker 2>the newest commit to the Georgia Bulldogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? I think that's what I'm finding out.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats to Gunner and his future transfer to wherever he

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<v Speaker 1>ends up. But that's awesome. Good for him. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people who wrote in said that they thought you

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<v Speaker 2>want They thought I did a good job. But they

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<v Speaker 2>did a more difficult spot. They could not get past

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you are in is just you just

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<v Speaker 2>have more to work with. And so with that being

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<v Speaker 2>said as the backdrop, I feel like I am in

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<v Speaker 2>a similar position today because we're going to be recruiting

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<v Speaker 2>an edge rusher, a defensive end. I'm going to recruit

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of Ohio State. You're going to recruit on

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<v Speaker 2>behalf of your beloved Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolverines, Dan Come Blue. Yeah, no, that's absolutely correct. The

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<v Speaker 1>only ground rule I want to get out ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>is in figuring out how to recruit against you and

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<v Speaker 1>to sell Michigan and to you know, bring up certain

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<v Speaker 1>things about Ohio State. I decided I'm not using anything

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<v Speaker 1>against you from what you said last episode, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not using anything you said in terms of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an important thing for Georgia, and now turning

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<v Speaker 1>around and saying, well, you said this was important for Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>but now you're not saying it's Ohio State. This is

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<v Speaker 1>completely independent. So I'm not doing that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a code you're living by, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>taking each episode in a total vacuum, taking life a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter mile at a time. Am I saying that because

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<v Speaker 1>our roles have been reversed? Who's to say? Who's to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I came into our last recruiting battle with the

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<v Speaker 2>reverse Michelle Obama, which I told you about.

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<v Speaker 1>When I go how, you go low.

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<v Speaker 2>And I try to do that. I think I did

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<v Speaker 2>it to great effect this time around. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>going to engage. Man, why should I bother with Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm Ohio State? Are you just gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>marshall about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? So you're just gonna be like, I'm just here

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't get fined. I'm just here because we're

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. Is that how you're going to retort everything?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've won the last eight meetings in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's getting to the point now, I hate to say this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting to the point now where it's almost not

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<v Speaker 1>even a rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they've got it on the wall of the

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<v Speaker 2>of the Woody Hayes Athletic Complex, but it's getting to

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<v Speaker 2>the point. A rivalry requires some give and take. There's

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<v Speaker 2>been no will take, should been a'll give. I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>to Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, So I don't feel the need to really go

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<v Speaker 1>low to negatively recruit Michigan. I think it's cute that

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<v Speaker 1>you are also in the market for our defensive and

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<v Speaker 1>who we've named him Chase Chase right, Chase Chase a

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<v Speaker 1>combination a portmanteau of Chase Winovich and Chase Young to

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<v Speaker 1>noted ed rushers of the past few years at both

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<v Speaker 1>of these schools. Do we go double Chas or just

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Chazz Nose Chaz is only for Charlie, Charles Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Chase. And also that's what ed rushers do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're quite literally defining our player's name by what

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<v Speaker 1>he does, which is chase down quarterbacks. It's a very

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<v Speaker 1>literal name. So Chase Chase. Where is he from? What's

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<v Speaker 1>his deal? Chase is from neither Michigan nor Ohio. Will

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<v Speaker 1>say he's from the Chicago burbs to be local to me,

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<v Speaker 1>has no allegiance to Illinois, has no allegiance to Northwestern Iowa, Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody in the Big Ten is sought after from teams

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<v Speaker 1>all over the country. And in terms of distance, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's like five hours to Columbus in maybe four

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<v Speaker 1>hours to Michigan. So nothing dramatically different and I can

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<v Speaker 1>answer any specifics about I don't know Niles High School

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<v Speaker 1>or Evanston High or Stevenson High or Deerfield High glen

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<v Speaker 1>Coe which I think glen Coe goes to New Trier.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can answer any of those questions if you

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<v Speaker 1>really want to get granular with the suburb. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no, He's not a legacy of either school. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have teammates going to one of those programs. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have some sort of connection to Ryan Day or

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Harbaugh or any position coach. He is being sought

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<v Speaker 1>out by the best and has narrowed it to two

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<v Speaker 1>of the big ten powers in Michigan and Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we know about him as a player and

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<v Speaker 2>he comps anything we should be aware.

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<v Speaker 1>Of about six four five kind of ideal size and

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<v Speaker 1>weight whatever going into college where you know he has

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<v Speaker 1>a great frame and can put on a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more muscle, put on a little bit more bulk as

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, ideally to get him up to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, between two sixty and two seventies, where I

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<v Speaker 1>think the NFL likes their ends and rush ends whatever

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<v Speaker 1>and outside linebacker edge types. So somewhere in there he's fast,

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<v Speaker 1>he's lean like good, he carries his weight well, has

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<v Speaker 1>some moves coming into college, but isn't you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>still a high school or he's not you know, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have counter moves and doesn't hasn't perfected his swim or

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<v Speaker 1>his rip and dip or anything like that. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can see the potential there because of what he is physically.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays on the basketball team, he runs track like.

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<v Speaker 1>He is everything you're looking for in an athlete of

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<v Speaker 1>that size entering into college.

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<v Speaker 2>Chase chase, chase, chase. He's sort of like amole or

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<v Speaker 2>a specimen, a five star from suburban Chicago, no allegiance

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody, and so that presents a very obvious opening

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<v Speaker 2>for the Ohio State Buckeys.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Look.

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State competes for a national championship every season. Every season.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go to Ohio State, you're all but guaranteed

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<v Speaker 2>the experience, at a minimum of being in the College

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<v Speaker 2>Football Playoff and to showcase your skills on the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>possible stage in the sport. It's undeniable. Ohio State has

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<v Speaker 2>been in the playoff four out of the seven years. Undeniable.

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<v Speaker 2>If you come to Ohio State, if you step foot

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<v Speaker 2>in the SeaBus Dan, there's an utter certainty that at

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<v Speaker 2>least once you're going to have an opportunity to play

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<v Speaker 2>on that big stage. Additionally, Ohio State in addition to

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<v Speaker 2>the pomp and circumstance and the great stadium, Ohio Stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Horseshoe, in addition to the great athletic facilities

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<v Speaker 2>where they've got sleep pods and cryogenic freezers and all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of exciting stuff. They have fifty players in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty players in the NFL. It's only six players behind Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>who everybody regards as the true football factory in college football.

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State's right there. They're getting close. Ohio State knows

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<v Speaker 2>how to get its top talent ready for the next level,

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<v Speaker 2>especially at the defensive end position. And I could talk

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<v Speaker 2>more about this later, but defensive ends defensive linemen under

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<v Speaker 2>the tutelage of one Larry Johnson senior, who had a

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<v Speaker 2>long story career at Penn State before moving west to

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State. This is a guy who knows how to

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<v Speaker 2>coach with his talent, get the most out of his talent.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're Chase, Chase, if you're six', four if

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking to put on some, muscle if you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to develop your, moods you're trying to get to the,

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<v Speaker 2>league and if you're trying to do so on a big,

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<v Speaker 2>STAGE i don't see how you could go anywhere else

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<v Speaker 2>else other Than Ohio. State your move is that the

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<v Speaker 2>full pitch for? Now there's more where that came. From

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<v Speaker 2>But i'd like interesting to give you an. Opportunity i'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to talk for eight minutes like you, did

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<v Speaker 2>and you're trying to Recruit Gunner. Simpson this is the

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<v Speaker 2>last Time i'll harken back to that previous, show but

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<v Speaker 2>continue after.

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<v Speaker 1>You my, Friend, NO i think that was it was

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<v Speaker 1>dripping with a little bit of arrogance that there's nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>else to go But Ohio's Confidence Confidence Chase chase says to,

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<v Speaker 1>HIMSELF i should check out all sorts of places and

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<v Speaker 1>compare them to each. Other and Here's Ohio state kind

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<v Speaker 1>of exuding a little bit of. Paranoia is that What

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<v Speaker 1>i'm sensing? Here that there's nowhere? Else you? KNOW a

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<v Speaker 1>confidence school, says go look. Around we're confident that we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to beat anybody out in terms of what we.

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<v Speaker 1>Offer but that's not WHAT i hear From Ohio. State that's. Wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Tie it's an interesting. Tactic i'll give you.

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<v Speaker 2>That fifty players in THE nfl exudes a lot of. Confidence,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan you sure we don't need to do a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of selling because the program essentially sells. Itself if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to go out and, look if you want

0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.079
<v Speaker 2>a window, shop, yeah you're gonna go to Ann, arbor

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<v Speaker 2>go to a, deli whatever whatever they do up. There, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>fine it's, fine it's. Fine but eventually we Know Chase

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<v Speaker 2>chase is coming back to the sea.

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<v Speaker 1>BUS i just really don't like you saying the sea.

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<v Speaker 1>Bus that's really this is Just dan editorializing. Here separate

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<v Speaker 1>from This michigan selling. Point, Okay, NO i, Mean Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>state has built up such a huge recruiting, department and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like a. Waste if the school just sells,

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<v Speaker 1>itself you know, it it appears there is some element

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<v Speaker 1>of you need to spend a lot of money and

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<v Speaker 1>compete with some of the best schools around the country

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<v Speaker 1>Because Ohio state needs to do more than just sell.

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<v Speaker 1>Itself they need the humans to. Sell. NO i think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a totally good. Point Ohio state has done a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic job developing, players finding themselves in position to get

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<v Speaker 1>slow ottered in The College Football playoff and normally IN

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<v Speaker 1>bcs championship. Games that's. Okay Ohio state is the premier

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<v Speaker 1>program at least for. Now at least for. Now but

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<v Speaker 1>What i'm saying right now in terms Of, michigan Because

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<v Speaker 1>i'm choosing not to go too, low at least not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet in terms Of, Michigan michigan's program is a proud

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<v Speaker 1>program that has a high standard for itself that it

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<v Speaker 1>has not met. Recently we are going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>first people to tell you that we have a high

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<v Speaker 1>standard and we have not met. It we are proud

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<v Speaker 1>of the players that we've developed along the defensive. Line

0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.600
<v Speaker 1>a great job you talk, about you know, upfront edge,

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<v Speaker 1>rushers defensive Lineman rashaan Gary, quitty Pay Taco charlton Josh

0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.600
<v Speaker 1>ucha was drafted pretty. Highly Like. Michigan if there's no other,

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<v Speaker 1>position it's the defensive, line it's the front, seven it's

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<v Speaker 1>the edge rushers that have gone on to THE nfl

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<v Speaker 1>and succeed. It, now one of the interesting things to

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<v Speaker 1>me is despite not hitting our, standard which we are

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<v Speaker 1>always striving to surpass our. Standard That michigan is fifth

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<v Speaker 1>in college football in terms of current players ON nfl, rosters,

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<v Speaker 1>fifth that's pretty. Good it doesn't match with our. Results

0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.480
<v Speaker 1>we're always looking to get. Better but we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>more Than, georgia more Than Penn, State, Miami, Clemson Notre, Dame,

0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:23.000
<v Speaker 1>OKLAHOMA Usc. TEXAS a lot of schools find themselves Beneath

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<v Speaker 1>michigan and there's a reason for. That we here At,

0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:30.280
<v Speaker 1>michigan we develop, players particularly along the defensive, line and

0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it just so happens that it's not just about football. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>yes we're bringing you here to play. Football yes we're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing you here to develop into a championship caliber defensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Lineman but at the same, time you're going to college

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<v Speaker 1>in Ann. ARBOR i would say it's the best college

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<v Speaker 1>town In. America if anybody's been to Ann arbor on

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<v Speaker 1>A saturday morning in the, fall they know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing quite like big time college football town, wise just

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<v Speaker 1>like Ann arbor is it's just a, fact And columbus is.

0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Not But columbus is a. City, columbus you're pushing a

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<v Speaker 1>million And arbor one hundred and twenty, thousand it's what you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want it's a, growing vibrant college. Town the, academics it's

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<v Speaker 1>the number three public university in the. Country, now NORMALLY

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<v Speaker 1>i wouldn't sell you too hard on academics because we

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<v Speaker 1>are recruiting you to play. Football i'm just, saying if

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<v Speaker 1>you come at it from a three sixty holistic, viewpoint

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<v Speaker 1>got to Be michigan's a no brainers gotta be. Holistic

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<v Speaker 1>now you look at some of the alumni that have

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<v Speaker 1>come From. Michigan, sure There's hall Of FAME nfl, players

0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.040
<v Speaker 1>there's all PRO nfl, players pro, bowlers you know, THEM

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<v Speaker 1>i know. Them but in terms of the complete package

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<v Speaker 1>of attending The university Of, michigan, again football is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Priority but even above that priority is football and football

0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and we want to. Win we have a high. Standard

0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.080
<v Speaker 1>we just changed our defensive. Coordinator Don brown is off To.

0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Arizona we Hired mike, McDonald one of the brightest young

0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.720
<v Speaker 1>minds for one of the best defenses in THE, nfl

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<v Speaker 1>coming in to rearrange and reshape. RESHIP i don't know

0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.520
<v Speaker 1>if that's a. Term our, defense and the focal point

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<v Speaker 1>is that edge rusher point this year Is Aiden. Hutchinson

0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and moving, forward it will be, You Chase. Chase you

0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.480
<v Speaker 1>will see the field, early you will get those invaluable game.

0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Reps but you're doing all of it in Ann, arbor

0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a college town's second to. None the, food the, culture

0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.959
<v Speaker 1>the nightlife once you're twenty, one the, bars the. Everything

0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a ton of attractive. People if you're into attractive.

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<v Speaker 1>People and, Listen, Ty i've got some names for you

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<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i mentioned that three sixty holistic alumni base has

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<v Speaker 1>to Be come, ON, ti we're talking about the founder Of,

0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Google Larry. Page we're talking about the guy who Started,

0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:35.800
<v Speaker 1>borders WHOSE nass name Is, borders it actually Is Louis

0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:40.159
<v Speaker 1>borders and his, Brother John, delaurian you might be familiar with,

0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.640
<v Speaker 1>him got HIS nba At michigan iggy, pop a punk rock,

0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:48.040
<v Speaker 1>legend Pioneer. Madonna Lawrence kasden wrote a couple movies by

0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the name Of Star. Wars Tie James Earl, jones who

0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.640
<v Speaker 1>was in Fact Darth, vader did the voice Of Darth.

0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Vader lucy Lou is in Every netflix romantic. Comedy Gerald

0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.240
<v Speaker 1>ford played For Michigan. Football Gerald ford is huge with

0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.639
<v Speaker 1>today's eighteen year. Olds everybody cannot get enough of Old Jerry.

0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Ford we know, This David Alan, greer all sorts of

0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.600
<v Speaker 1>names and all different types of industries and. Businesses michigan

0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:17.400
<v Speaker 1>is the place to go from becoming a boy recruit

0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:23.399
<v Speaker 1>into a man champion. Graduate now we need players Like

0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Chase chase to become champions because we have not again

0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.320
<v Speaker 1>gotten to our, standard but we are getting. There we

0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>are on the, way and we develop defensive. Linemen the

0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.359
<v Speaker 1>defensive linemen are the, core are the rock solid core

0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.359
<v Speaker 1>of What michigan football. Does and you will play, early

0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.439
<v Speaker 1>you will see the, field and you work, hard and

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you're going to get drafted, highly just like those who

0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.760
<v Speaker 1>came before. You did you know THAT. R. L stein

0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.280
<v Speaker 1>went To Ohio? STATE i have. THAT i HAVE. R.

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.399
<v Speaker 1>L stein And Richard. Lewis so you can be either

0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you can be in robinhood men in, tights or you

0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:59.879
<v Speaker 1>could be the Next, Goosebumper Kirk, Curvestreet Clark, Kellogg george st.

0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I'mbrender it's all just, sports, sports, sports. Sports there's more to.

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<v Speaker 1>Life tie all, Right, well look that was.

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<v Speaker 2>CUTE i appreciate where you're coming from with, that and

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<v Speaker 2>you are right In arbor's a fine college, town great

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.280
<v Speaker 2>place to spend your college. YEARS i do like the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that in your hard sell you openly acknowledged the

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.160
<v Speaker 2>fact That michigan has not been meeting its own.

0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Standard, no, really Because i'm you know, what we're. Not

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 1>i'm not here to blow. Smoke, Tie i'm going to,

0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.760
<v Speaker 1>You i'm not. Either i'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Either if you come To Ohio state where, again we've

0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:46.480
<v Speaker 2>had fifty players in THE. Nfl, sure where we've had

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:52.439
<v Speaker 2>three defensive ends drafted in the top three of the

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.399
<v Speaker 2>last SIX nfl, drafts And Joey, Bosa Nick bosa And

0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Chase young another, Namesake Chase. Young these are guys who

0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:04.040
<v Speaker 2>develop their skills under, Again Larry, Brown Larry. Johnson excuse, me,

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 2>SENIOR i Prefer Larry brown developing different. Coach, yeah don't

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:15.200
<v Speaker 2>have to blow. Smoke that's in the public. Record Ryan

0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.240
<v Speaker 2>day twenty three and two as a head coach is

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<v Speaker 2>only two losses were in the. Postseason, again these are.

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<v Speaker 2>Numbers this isn't stuff That i'm making. Up this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>anything other than cold hard.

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Facts. Right look at. Recruiting recruiting is a little bit more,

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 1>subjective but across the, board recruiting has been, very very.

0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Strong you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Learn what it's like to play with and AGAINST nfl

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:39.800
<v Speaker 2>talent every day in.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice every day in.

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<v Speaker 2>Practice you're not going to find that level of competition

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 2>on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>Team on other. Teams if you go to a school

0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 1>like A michigan Or Michigan state wherever Else Chase chase

0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:56.560
<v Speaker 1>might be, looking don't compare. That you can play for

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<v Speaker 1>a national championship every. Year AS i said, Earlier Ohio

0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 1>state has made the playoff for the last seven. Years

0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you can play for A Big ten championship seemingly every.

0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Year Ohio state's won four titles in a row and

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 1>five in the last seven, Years so you always have

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to compete for a bigger. Trophy, PLUS i

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:22.240
<v Speaker 1>KNOW i pooh poohed. It MAYBE i was being a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit over the. Top you can play in the

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.760
<v Speaker 1>biggest rivalry in sports and be on the winning side

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.919
<v Speaker 1>of that. Rivalry how good must that feel to be

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>on The Ohio state side to know that you've got

0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 1>eight in a row in the bag and seventeen of

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the last twenty against The Michigan. Wolverines.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan if you want to be part of the, RIVALRY

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<v Speaker 2>i can assure you it's better to be on the

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 2>winning side of that. Rivalry and no matter how Well

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 2>michigan does, Recruiting Jim harbaugh still can't Beat Ohio.

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 1>STATE i like that you you listed a number of

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 1>players who are drafted high because you're just you're going

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to be, next not a long, List and that's terrific

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.879
<v Speaker 1>if that's the place you want to. Be but AS i,

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>know having recruited a number of top flight players here To,

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.720
<v Speaker 1>MICHIGAN i see the same trait in all of, them

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's that desire to be the. Best and in

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>order to be the, best tie you have to beat the.

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Best and they. Haven't they just. Haven't they haven't. Beaten,

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 1>no we have not met our standard here At. Michigan

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 1>but What i'm doing Is i'm challenging, You, Chase, chase

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to be that difference maker for The Michigan. Wolverines the

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>feeling you get from becoming the next, guy maybe sitting

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.119
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years and you, know standing out in,

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>practice whatever it, is there's you, know there's all sorts

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>of reasons to Choose Ohio. State we're getting you on

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the field in this rivalry. Game you're not a rotation.

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Guy you're not a pass rush. Specialist if you show

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.200
<v Speaker 1>out in, practice if you work, hard you will. Play

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>if you beat out, guys there are open positions across the.

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Field we did not meet our, standard and every position is.

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Open that means you can come. In you learn the,

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>playbook you hit the, weights you listen to your. Coaches you're.

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Playing we're not guaranteeing you, anything but we're guaranteeing you a.

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Shot we're absolutely guaranteeing you a. Shot AND i did

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 1>happen to watch some of the tape on your basketball,

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 1>games on those track, MEETS i see athleticism THAT i

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>think we can find a place for you on special,

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>teams maybe running a fake, punt maybe getting into the red.

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Zone what about? Quarterback what about? Quarterback, no, no THAT'S i,

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>mean we here At michigan live in. Reality But i'm

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>saying you can get on the field for this. Offense

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and with your, length with your, height with your, athleticism

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 1>we got packages for you near the red. Zone we

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>absolutely can make use of your. Athleticism this is it

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>would be a no brainer to keep you on the.

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Field you get the best athletes on the team there those.

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Situations maybe that four minute offense at the end of.

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Games can use your athleticism and your, size your. Aggression

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a tantalizing amount that we can do with you to,

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 1>maximize provided you're, healthy provided you're, Willing we see, big

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>big Things in turn of your usage for The Michigan

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>wolf rains your.

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<v Speaker 2>Usage, yeah, usage great recruiting. TERMINOLOGY i, LOOK i appreciate your, Pitch, Dan,

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.159
<v Speaker 2>SURE i appreciate what we're trying to.

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Do but we're talking goosebumps. Potential, yeah you're punching up

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<v Speaker 1>a little. Bit you have, TO i get.

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 2>It i'm not going to do the novelty. Bit i'm

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 2>not going to do the novelty. Bit hey you could

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 2>play in the. Wildcat hey you could be in the,

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Backfield hey you could score a.

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Touch i'm not going to do. That, no it SOUNDS

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 1>i want to hasn't. Prepared do you want to play

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>for a championship and do you want to get paid

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to play in THE. Nfl that's my. Pitch if those

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>things are both, true then come To Ohio. State come

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>To Ohio. State not to mention all of the stuff

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>THAT i said earlier about how the proof is in

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the pudding with this, program how it can show, out

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 1>it can put guys in the.

0:25:55.240 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 2>League they've got premier, facilities the just a. Dated new

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 2>recruits love cool. Facilities The Woody Hayes Athletic center got

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 2>a seven million dollar renovation a couple of years. Ago right,

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:14.919
<v Speaker 2>there front and center a huge wall dedicated specifically to this.

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Rivalry it includes photos from past games of video highlight

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>reel like you know how we joke about things being

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 2>on loop all year. Long they have. That they built

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 2>that specifically to get folks ready for The michigan. Game

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>it's that big of a. Rivalry and of course it

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 2>has the. Countdown you need the countdown clock so that

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 2>everybody knows what they're playing. For you got that front

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 2>stage center to keep you focused on the task at.

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Hand not to mention all the state of the art training.

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 2>FACILITIES i mentioned the cryogenic. Chamber they've got a, Sauna

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 2>they've got anything you could possibly, imagine a golden tea

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 2>big buck, hunter like all the cool stuff that you

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 2>need to wind down after a hard day out on

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 2>the practice, field getting yourself ready for the task at.

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Hand so facilities are not an. Issue facilities are only

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>going to help amplify your. Abilities it's never going to

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>get in your. Way, obviously you're going to have an

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to play against the best every day in, practice

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>and then when you finally do get out, there guess.

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>What your facilities At Ohio stadium aren't any less, cool.

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Not even.

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Close The, horseshoe an iconic venue in college, FOOTBALL dan

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>a listed capacity of one hundred and four thy nine

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty. FOUR i understand that that's not as

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 2>much as The Big. House that's, Fine but the way

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 2>we see, it would you not rather have like one

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred and five thousand really, satisfied really happy fans who

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 2>cheer on a team that they know is going to,

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>win as opposed to one hundred and ten thousand disappointed

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>fans who know that every time they step foot in

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 2>the stadium they're probably going to come out wondering is

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>this another eight and four? YEAR i want to be

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>on the side of The. HORSESHOE i want to be

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 2>among the one hundred and five thousand screaming. Fans sometimes

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 2>they can pack it in with one hundred and ten

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 2>two sharing on the. GAME i want you to be

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 2>on that field when you've got that crowd cheering your,

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 2>name rooting you, on knowing that you're gonna be the

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>next great thing and that your team is pointed directly

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>towards the national. Championship i'm telling, you you step onto

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.919
<v Speaker 2>the field at The Big, House Michigan, Stadium you're going

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a difference. Maker and that difference Is you're

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 2>a player that we, need that we have, developed that

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>we will continue to develop to be a difference maker

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 2>in this rivalry. Game, now obviously we are dozens strong

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 2>At michigan pointing towards the same, goal which is winning every,

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 2>game Beating Ohio state into the. Ground but we need

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 2>difference makers because there has not been a difference in

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the results these past few, years which is unacceptable here

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>at The university Of. Michigan, NOW i hear a lot.

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>About, football this, facility this, horseshoe This i'm talking, football

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>And i'm talking football. Development i'm talking about the entire

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>college part of the college. Experience Jim harbaugh is big on. This,

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Now Jim harbaugh has not met his standard as a head.

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Coach Coach harbaugh has gone back to the drawing board

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to get back to his, standard renegotiated the, contract went

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>down a little. Bit so he is hungry like you are.

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Hungry he is hungry like the team is hungry to

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>change things and flip this car. AROUND i don't know

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>if that's a worthy. Analogy we are ready to flip

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the script on what was a disappointing twenty twenty and

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that begins not early on In, september doesn't begin in fall.

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Camp that begins on the recruiting trail to find players

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on the same, page those hungry players to flip that,

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>script who want to get into the weight, room who

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>want to get training In, January, February. March and that's

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:57.959
<v Speaker 1>what we see in. You we see a hungry player

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>desperate to be a difference make and to build his

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>own name at The university Of. Michigan that's what we.

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>See that's what we. See we're making. Changes you, Know

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Sean newis done a fantastic job along the defensive, line

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>helped to develop SOME nfl. Players you Mentioned Larry, johnson

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>another terrific. Coach we hear A michigan believe that you

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>are a great fit for. Us Jim harbaugh has coached

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>in A Super, bowl he has been a SUCCESSFUL nfl.

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Coach he has that ability to see in players what

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>they need to develop for the next. Level and it

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>keeps happening. Again michigan the fifth largest representative represented school

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>on the list of MOST nfl, players on the list

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of teams that have the most ACTIVE nfl. Players there's

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a reason for that those who Leave michigan have a

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>good shot at being difference, makers not just At michigan

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but the.

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Pros there are some rumors That Jim harbaugh is going

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>to go back to THE, nfl you, know nowhere else

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 2>he'd rather win if The university Of. Michigan if you've

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>paid any attention to The harbaugh story In Ann, arbor

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Sure michigan man back with much, fanfare much, excitement going

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to rejuvenate the. Program he has certainly done a good,

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>job AND i think there's and he denying the fact

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 2>that he's done a good. Job, right he has not

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 2>lived up to that. Standard and some of The michigan

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>community are starting to grow. Restless and SO i, mean

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>these aren't my, words this is just what people out

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 2>there in the, world on on The, twitter on The,

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 2>googles what they would say About Jim, harbaugh that perhaps

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 2>he's not long for an, Armor perhaps that if you

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>sign on with, him if you go hook line and

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>sinker into The horrball, way The harball, mentality The harbaugh,

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>plan if such thing does, exist that you could be.

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Left without him after year. ONE i, mean you're just

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about hot. Air we're just having a hot air,

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>dissertation WHICH i guess gets you a degree right At Ohio.

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>State but we got. It we have to give ourselves

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a standard as well here with. This and, yeah you

0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>can say that there are. Rumors you know why there

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>are robot rumors About Jim harbaugh in THE nfl because

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>he's a desired, coach because people want to work With Jim.

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Harbaugh people Want Jim harbaugh coaching his, team and he.

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Chooses he chooses to coach at The university Of. MICHIGAN

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>i don't see that Many Ryan day. RUMORS i JUST

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>i happen to not see the rumors involved With Ryan

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>day and the highest level of the, sport THE. NFL

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>i wonder why that. IS i wonder if people see

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>him as a one trick. Pony it's just. Conjecture it's

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>just conjecture that he doesn't have the ability to get

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to the next. Level but there is that desire For Jim,

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>harbaugh that, thirst that hunger For Jim. Harbaugh and he

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>chooses once, Again tyler to stay at The university Of,

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>michigan when according to, you he has his pick of

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the litter at the next. Level but he Sees michigan

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>as the, place and so should you the hut Should, No, hey,

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Listen i'm here for it as. Well there's just the

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>thing is you're selling me on or you're Selling Chase chase.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>On you, know This Ohio state defense and all these

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>guys that have developed and all these these all pro,

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>types these The bosa brothers And Chase, young all these

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>guys who have made a, difference you, know On draft

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>night and in THE. NFL i wonder Why Ohio state's

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>defense keeps moving in the wrong. DIRECTION i wonder why

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the results aren't. THERE i wonder Why Ohio state is

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>lit up by a school Like. INDIANA i wonder why

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the defense is lit up by a school Like. ALABAMA

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>a Great alabama, team but lit. Up This Ohio state

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>defense is trending into a. Direction now, Again i'll Tell

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>i'll be the first one to tell you The michigan

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>standard has not been met on. Defense after twenty. Twenty

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Coach brown did a fantastic job from TWENTY i believe

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen through twenty. Nineteen But i'm seeing trends with

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>This Ohio state defense that they are just they're not

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>getting the best out of their. Players they're not turning

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the of these blue chip players into actual. Production this

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>is a team led by its offense this past, year

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>to you a couple of. YEARS i just the trends are,

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>alarming AND i feel a responsibility to let you know

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that you should be paying attention to not getting to the,

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>quarterback and that the defense not communicating, well letting plays behind,

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>them you, know not being able to tackle. CONSISTENTLY i

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>hear all this stuff about DEVELOPING nfl, players AND i

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>watched The Ohio state defense last, fall AND i think to, myself,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>WELL i don't. Know, WELL i JUST i don't know

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:34.720
<v Speaker 1>what they're thinking.

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>HERE i still would Put Ohio state up against just

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 2>about anybody just. About, yeah Not, indiana, sir, respectively Not indiana,

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 2>necessarily but just.

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>About you can make that.

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Argument i'm going to go in a completely separate. Direction

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 2>one thing that you have not covered is the fact

0:34:56.480 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 2>That Chase chase is from Suburban, Chicago so perhaps he's

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 2>gotten used to that big city. Feel, Columbus ohio is

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the state, capital the Great state Of. Ohio town of

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 2>about a million, people you get access to all the

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 2>amenities of being in a big. City it's actually the

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 2>second most populous city in all The, midwest behind your Native, Chicago.

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Illinois so if you Like, alabama if you Like, clemson

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 2>if you like Ann, arbor but you want to live

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 2>closer to modern civilization how you're Describing, Columbus you want

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to have all of the amenities of a big, city

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>come To Ohio. State why strap, yourself give yourself as

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 2>many opportunities as you, can especially in this world of

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>nil sure where perhaps you're looking for some endorsements that

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>you can use, to you, know help pay some of the.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Bills columbus is a corporate haven all sorts of have

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and big corporations and big companies that are headquartered in

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>The columbus. Area can tell me more about all these

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 2>opportunities In, columbus be as detailed as possible and. SPECIFIC

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>i Think Chase chase would love to know about the

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 2>modern amenities Of, Columbus.

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Ohio, well what.

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 2>We do here At Ohio state is we set up

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>our student athletes in the best way. Possible we give

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 2>them marketing, training we give them media, training we give

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>them all the tools that they need to go on

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>to a website like An Open doors and figure out

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 2>what are the best things for my? Brand how CAN

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 2>i make sure THAT i am protected WHEN i am

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 2>entering into some sort of endorsement. Deal we do not

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 2>seek to be that. Broker all we can do is

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 2>provide the tools so that the players out there can

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>go out and make the best decision possible for. Them

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 2>but there's no denying the fact that when you play

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 2>for a premier institution like The Ohio State, university that

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 2>there will be plenty of marketing opportunities for.

0:36:56.320 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 1>You, Now I'm i'm fascinated to here to hear. MORE

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>i look At Columbus, OHIO i see big lots AND

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>i See. Kroger SO i suppose you can be A

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>ham spokesperson In. Ohio which is that's the full. List

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a, long, long long list of other companies you. Know,

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>PLEASE i look forward to it Because ham is the

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>fastest growing of the porky cold cuts continue TikTok. No

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>i'm Just i'm. Curious so you're Painting columbus like it's

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>some sort of combination Of La New york And Silicon.

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Valley and so that's why i'd like to. KNOW i, mean,

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously you look at the fortune five hundred companies that

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>have come out of an, arbor And google obviously founded

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>By Larry page who was, there and You're Domino's, pizza

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>who've done fantastic. RECENTLY i just you, know there's there's

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot to lovely.

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Arbors the headquarter of some sort In columbus. AREA i

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 2>believe Aber crombie And. Fitch, Whoa i'm.

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Sorry it's Case chase committing in the early two thousands

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>is also in the. Area, OKAY i. Understand is IS

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>lfo going to be on his recruiting trip on his official?

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Visit will they show? Up the light Funky, ONES, Jp Morgan.

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Chase they can't be head okay In, columbus can? They

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not headquartered. Nationwide they're on your. Side, OH i,

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>mean you know teenagers and their love of nationwide limited.

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Brands uh, huh, yeah look at. This this is Like

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>New York. City uh. Huh that's what people are. Saying

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>state farm people are that's that can't be the headquarters

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>For state. FARMED i was not as prepared for this

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>section of the argument AS i should have. Been but

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of companies In. COLUMBUS i know

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people live In. Columbus, now ALL i

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>can tell you is you you want to go to,

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.919
<v Speaker 1>college you want to be in a college. Town and

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the nice thing about getting away from The chicago

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>And chicago burgs is it's still a bigger college town

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and you have the ability to travel really easily throughout The,

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>midwest throughout the, country, internationally. Whatever but Ann arbor is

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>second to on you, KNOW i, mean talk About, zingerman's

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you talk about all sorts of, restaurants you talk about

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the culture of the, nightlife And arbor is. Fantastic you

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:09.760
<v Speaker 1>can be whatever you want to be in Ann. Arbor,

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>okay be whatever you want to be in Ann. Arbor

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>look at. That it's. True i've, Listened. Ty this is

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>this Is dan editorializing. Here this is not the recruiter Of. Chase.

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>CHASE i Think columbus is a pretty good. Place i've

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>been To columbus multiple. Times i've enjoyed myself. There but

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>putting My michigan. Recruiter hat back on and arborsh just

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>something special And Arbor. SCHOOL i was in Ann arbor one.

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Time never been To. COLUMBUS i was in Ann arbor

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>one time for A Penn State michigan. Game whether it was, awful,

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>rain the whole time is when it.

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Happens WHEN i Met Cameron Guy dave for the first,

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 2>time And i've told.

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>The story a million. TIMES i also saw an arcade,

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>burned a literal arcade. Fire.

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>LITERAL i saw the literal arcade fire as pinball piets

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>burnt down the ONE i Guess saturday NIGHT i was in.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:40:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Town but Ann arbor is a really cool. PLACE i

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>would love to go back when the weather doesn't, suck

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.879
<v Speaker 2>because that was. Great that was a disappointing experience due

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 2>to the. Weather, otherwise are really cool. Place i'd love

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to go to.

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>The to The.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Horseshoe i'd love to go see a game there as.

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Well And i've heard great things about The Ohio state.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Experience but.

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 2>It almost pains me to say these negative things about

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Ann arbor BECAUSE i really enjoyed my time.

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 1>There, okay hats back on and the other thing About michigan,

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>too is there's just an emotion About michigan. FOOTBALL i

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 1>mean the inner state rivalry With Michigan, state of Course

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>michigan and it's rivalry With Notreed. Aime there's just something

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 1>big time About michigan football and the teams that they,

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>play and the energy between those, teams the stages that

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>those games are played, on the history of those games

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>And Ohio state's. Fantastic but what emotion do you have

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>tied up In? Clemson what emotion do you have tied

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>up In? Alabama what do you know it's going to

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the playoff to, lose Whereas michigan is trending in that upward.

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Direction and it's trending that way because we are signed

0:40:59.920 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>up players like. You i'm.

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Earth have we Met michigan trending? Up is this? New

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:08.720
<v Speaker 2>is this? New SHOULD i play.

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>The breaking news? Sound michigan has a five star quarterback

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>entering the. Fold michigan has recruited, really really, well especially on.

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Defense you'll be playing with premier players from across the.

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Country you, know the Safety dak sales from all from excuse,

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 1>me From, oklahoma the linebackers that have been coming Through.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Michigan you look At Devin bush And Jake, ryan all

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 1>sorts of. Players you are playing, with FANTASTIC nfl caliber,

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>players no different than you are At Ohio. State but

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you're that difference. Maker you're that difference. Maker well let

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>me close on this. Please Ohio state has a long standing,

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>tradition as you, know the best damn band in the

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:53.879
<v Speaker 1>land goes out there and Write ohio in script out

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>on the, field and it's a. Tradition it's an, honor,

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:01.359
<v Speaker 1>frankly for one of the fourth or fifty your souzophone

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>players to go out there and dot the. Ie, sure you,

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>know on occasions sometimes it's a, celebrity an Rl, stein

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>an r L, stein if you, will.

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Who goes out there and gives crowd goosebumps by dotting the.

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Eye i'm not telling, You, chase that you're going to

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:21.959
<v Speaker 2>be able.

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>To dot the. Ie, Wow, oh here we.

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Go you are every bit is important to our defensive

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 2>line moving. Forward your every bit is important to our

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 2>defense moving. Forward you're every bit is important to our

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 2>national championship hopes moving.

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 1>Forward we need you to be on that. Line we

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>want you On what are you? Doing? Now what are you?

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Doing he needs you on that. LINE i JUST i

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>think this is a mixed, message is What i'm getting,

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>here because we owe you opened your pitch With Ohio

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>state eight sells itself and you were very, short a

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>very truncated approach to Recruiting Chase. Chase Where i'm Telling,

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Chase i'm telling you there's so many different things At

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>michigan for. You michigan is going to feel like home

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.280
<v Speaker 1>for you because you can find your pursuit in addition

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to thriving on the football. Field and you're telling, him,

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Well Ohio state sales, itself but also you're going to

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>be as important as a susophone. Player i'm just lost

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 1>in this. TIE i just am uh, right.

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Do we KNOW i take it all? In do we

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 2>know If Chase chase has ever won any state? Championships

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 2>because if he, hasn't he will feel at home at Miss,

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 2>SURE i feel.

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>RIGHT i don't have that information in front of. ME

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>i don't have his docket all right right in solid

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 1>verbal at gmail dot. Com let us. KNOW i was

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 1>going so good there until the very. END i just

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>lost my. Training oh, WELL i mean winnings for you,

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>know you fumble that message on the on the one yard.

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>LINE i don't know what can you count on With

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Ohio state solibt gmail dot. Com let us know who

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you let us know who did a better job, selling

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>not where you would. Go my question to, You tai

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>is would you have changed anything about my? Pitch DID

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>i omit anything THAT i should have included about WHAT

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>i was a prospect to go To? MICHIGAN i WAS

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>i was thinking as you were making the argument that it.

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Was it was definitely one.

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Approach it was a creative approach to steer into the

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 2>shortcomings Of michigan by. Awareness, yeah and THAT'S i think that's.

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Important by saying that we have not lived up to our.

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 2>STANDARD i don't know IF i would have chosen that

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.760
<v Speaker 2>phrasing for. IT i might have, said we know there's

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 2>room for. Improvement this is why we're recruiting. You maybe

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>not so much we haven't lived up to our, Standard

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 2>but the spirit of what you were DOING i thought was. Creative,

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 2>WELL i mean standard establishes that you, Know michigan is

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 2>a pl that expects to win on a national. LEVEL

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 2>i THOUGHT i thought that was a good. Approach it

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 2>could have been a little bit better word, smith but

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 2>all in, all pretty good, argument pretty good. Argument, yeah what.

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Do you think about The Ohio state? SIDE i would

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:22.800
<v Speaker 1>have gone bigger into the like we already Know Ohio

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>state is AN nfl. Factory we already know About Chase

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>young and The bosa brothers and all these defensive linemen and,

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:32.479
<v Speaker 1>linebackers and you Know Larry johnson being this legendary defensive line.

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>COACH i would have gone at it with a here's

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>what you don't know About Ohio state AND i you

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.399
<v Speaker 1>know they have the like real World, wednesdays, right isn't

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>that a thing At Ohio state where they like they

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 1>bring in speakers Because Ohio state gets. Pigeonholed is a football.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Factory we're so much more than a football. Factory were

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 1>looking out for you, know this is a forty year,

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>plan not a four year. Plan and you didn't go

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>into that as much because that's that's selling you, know

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 1>mom and, dad that's selling the family of. That, Like,

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>okay we're not just looking out for your sons as

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a four technique or something like. That we're looking out

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>for your son's. Brain we're looking out for your son's.

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Future that's LIKE i would have gone with the like

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 1>for LIKE i would have flipped literally flipped that script and, say,

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>look you've seen us on the national. Stage you know

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>what we're about from a football. Perspective we develop young

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>men to be excellent football players that thrive here and

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>at the next. LEVEL i would have gone into here's

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>what you don't see About Ohio state football THAT i

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 1>think is the. Move, now it's not difficult to out

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Recruit michigan Or Penn state or any Other Big Ten

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 1>challenge or even national programs you're competing, Against LIKE i,

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Mean Ohio state's going Into texas and plucking top. Guys

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>but THAT i think is a differentiator, potentially because you,

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Know michigan's going to sell academics and the recruit and

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the alumni network things like. That Here's Ohio state's ability

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to enter to that part of the. Conversation that's but,

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 1>again it's not difficult to Sell Ohio. State you look

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 1>AT i, mean just from a football it's not, no,

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>no all. Right but that's that's HOW i would have

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>rounded it out into like a a more broad selling,

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>point sales, pitch what is going to be our next.

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Pairing i'd like to dip into a different tier in

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>terms of rivalry or. Brand i'm Into Oklahoma. STATE, Tcu

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:39.959
<v Speaker 1>i'm Into are you going to make ME? Tcu aren't?

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>You you're? Sure why?

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:41.319
<v Speaker 2>Not?

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you want to do? That NEXT Tcu Oklahoma. State

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>this is going to.

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Reel me back INTO. Tcu i'm going to recruit myself

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 2>back to A.

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Schoolcu, Yeah i'm Selling Mike, gundy which is not SO

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>i think the better option IS tcu for sure in

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>terms of ease of. Selling But i'll dig Into Oklahoma

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 1>state And i'll see WHAT i can. FIND i, mean

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>we Love Pistol, pete so, YEAH i think that's going

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:12.879
<v Speaker 1>to be our next hard SELL tcu Versus Oklahoma. State

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and what? Teams what position? ARE i think wide receiver

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i think each of them have interesting alumni in

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>terms OF nfl, draft in terms of, systems in terms of,

0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 1>NAMES i think wide. Receiver but YOU i, mean if

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you want to do, safety if you want to wide, out,

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 1>okay do wide.

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Out it's a little bit of big metal from THE tcu,

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 2>side BUT i think.

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.360
<v Speaker 1>No Josh dockson was just drafted pretty, high was he?

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Not he was Drafted he went absolutely. Nowhere, well he got.

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Hurt jalen has been another disappointment thus. Far but these

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:55.280
<v Speaker 2>they got drafted, high got drafted. High that's life changing.

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Money well let's let's let's think a little bit more about.

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Name we will come armed on The tuesday show with

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 2>more names to pick from and to recruit to our

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<v Speaker 2>Respect pact.

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