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Speaker 2: And Dean and Tye welcome back to the solid verbal

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Speaker 1: I'm good man? One episode after I said you're going Illinois,

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Speaker 2: that's what we're going to start. Talking preview content. So yes,

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Speaker 1: we're calling this the hard sell miniseriies, No, you did

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Speaker 1: Dan, So I don't feel the need to really go

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Speaker 1: He plays on the basketball team, he runs track like.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State competes for a national championship every season. Every season.

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Speaker 2: If you go to Ohio State, you're all but guaranteed

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Speaker 2: Ohio State's right there. They're getting close. Ohio State knows

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Speaker 2: So if you're Chase, Chase, if you're six', four if

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Speaker 2: full pitch for? Now there's more where that came. From

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Speaker 2: But i'd like interesting to give you an. Opportunity i'm

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Speaker 1: You my, Friend, NO i think that was it was

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Speaker 1: dripping with a little bit of arrogance that there's nowhere

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Speaker 1: HIMSELF i should check out all sorts of places and

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Speaker 1: of exuding a little bit of. Paranoia is that What

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Speaker 1: i'm sensing? Here that there's nowhere? Else you? KNOW a

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Speaker 1: Offer but that's not WHAT i hear From Ohio. State that's. Wild.

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Speaker 1: Tie it's an interesting. Tactic i'll give you.

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Speaker 2: That fifty players in THE nfl exudes a lot of. Confidence,

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Speaker 2: Dan you sure we don't need to do a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of selling because the program essentially sells. Itself if

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Speaker 2: go to a, deli whatever whatever they do up. There, sure,

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Speaker 2: fine it's, fine it's. Fine but eventually we Know Chase

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Speaker 2: chase is coming back to the sea.

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Speaker 1: BUS i just really don't like you saying the sea.

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Speaker 1: Bus that's really this is Just dan editorializing. Here separate

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Speaker 1: Because Ohio state needs to do more than just sell.

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Speaker 1: it's a totally good. Point Ohio state has done a

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Speaker 1: Yet in terms Of, Michigan michigan's program is a proud

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Speaker 1: ucha was drafted pretty. Highly Like. Michigan if there's no other,

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Speaker 1: always striving to surpass our. Standard That michigan is fifth

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Speaker 1: we're always looking to get. Better but we're talking about

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Speaker 1: OKLAHOMA Usc. TEXAS a lot of schools find themselves Beneath

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Speaker 1: yes we're bringing you here to play. Football yes we're

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Speaker 1: bringing you here to develop into a championship caliber defensive.

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Speaker 1: in Ann. ARBOR i would say it's the best college

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Speaker 1: A saturday morning in the, fall they know that there's

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Speaker 1: like Ann arbor is it's just a, fact And columbus is.

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Speaker 1: Not But columbus is a. City, columbus you're pushing a

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Speaker 1: Want it's a, growing vibrant college. Town the, academics it's

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Speaker 1: i wouldn't sell you too hard on academics because we

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Speaker 1: there's all PRO nfl, players pro, bowlers you know, THEM

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Speaker 1: Priority but even above that priority is football and football

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Speaker 1: we just changed our defensive. Coordinator Don brown is off To.

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Speaker 1: coming in to rearrange and reshape. RESHIP i don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's a. Term our, defense and the focal point

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Speaker 1: is that edge rusher point this year Is Aiden. Hutchinson

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Speaker 1: and moving, forward it will be, You Chase. Chase you

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Speaker 1: will see the field, early you will get those invaluable game.

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Speaker 1: Reps but you're doing all of it in Ann, arbor

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Speaker 1: the nightlife once you're twenty, one the, bars the. Everything

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Speaker 1: BECAUSE i mentioned that three sixty holistic alumni base has

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Speaker 1: borders and his, Brother John, delaurian you might be familiar with,

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Speaker 1: him got HIS nba At michigan iggy, pop a punk rock,

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Speaker 1: legend Pioneer. Madonna Lawrence kasden wrote a couple movies by

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Speaker 1: Vader lucy Lou is in Every netflix romantic. Comedy Gerald

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Speaker 1: ford played For Michigan. Football Gerald ford is huge with

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Speaker 1: today's eighteen year. Olds everybody cannot get enough of Old Jerry.

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Speaker 1: Ford we know, This David Alan, greer all sorts of

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Speaker 1: names and all different types of industries and. Businesses michigan

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Speaker 1: is the place to go from becoming a boy recruit

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Speaker 1: into a man champion. Graduate now we need players Like

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Speaker 1: Chase chase to become champions because we have not again

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Speaker 1: gotten to our, standard but we are getting. There we

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Speaker 1: are on the, way and we develop defensive. Linemen the

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen are the, core are the rock solid core

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Speaker 1: of What michigan football. Does and you will play, early

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Speaker 1: you will see the, field and you work, hard and

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Speaker 1: you're going to get drafted, highly just like those who

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Speaker 1: came before. You did you know THAT. R. L stein

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Speaker 1: went To Ohio? STATE i have. THAT i HAVE. R.

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Speaker 1: L stein And Richard. Lewis so you can be either

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Speaker 1: could be the Next, Goosebumper Kirk, Curvestreet Clark, Kellogg george st.

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Speaker 1: I'mbrender it's all just, sports, sports, sports. Sports there's more to.

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Speaker 2: CUTE i appreciate where you're coming from with, that and

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Speaker 2: you are right In arbor's a fine college, town great

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Speaker 2: place to spend your college. YEARS i do like the

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Speaker 2: fact that in your hard sell you openly acknowledged the

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Speaker 2: fact That michigan has not been meeting its own.

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Speaker 1: Standard, no, really Because i'm you know, what we're. Not

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Speaker 1: i'm not here to blow. Smoke, Tie i'm going to,

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Speaker 1: You i'm not. Either i'm not.

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Speaker 2: Either if you come To Ohio state where, again we've

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Speaker 2: had fifty players in THE. Nfl, sure where we've had

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Speaker 2: three defensive ends drafted in the top three of the

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Speaker 2: last SIX nfl, drafts And Joey, Bosa Nick bosa And

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Speaker 2: Chase young another, Namesake Chase. Young these are guys who

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Speaker 2: develop their skills under, Again Larry, Brown Larry. Johnson excuse, me,

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Speaker 2: SENIOR i Prefer Larry brown developing different. Coach, yeah don't

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Speaker 2: have to blow. Smoke that's in the public. Record Ryan

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Speaker 2: day twenty three and two as a head coach is

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Speaker 2: only two losses were in the. Postseason, again these are.

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Speaker 2: Numbers this isn't stuff That i'm making. Up this isn't

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Speaker 2: anything other than cold hard.

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Speaker 1: Facts. Right look at. Recruiting recruiting is a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: subjective but across the, board recruiting has been, very very.

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Speaker 1: Strong you can.

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Speaker 2: Learn what it's like to play with and AGAINST nfl

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Speaker 2: talent every day in.

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Speaker 1: Practice every day in.

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Speaker 2: Practice you're not going to find that level of competition

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Speaker 1: Team on other. Teams if you go to a school

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Speaker 1: like A michigan Or Michigan state wherever Else Chase chase

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Speaker 1: might be, looking don't compare. That you can play for

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Speaker 1: a national championship every. Year AS i said, Earlier Ohio

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Speaker 1: state has made the playoff for the last seven. Years

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Speaker 1: you can play for A Big ten championship seemingly every.

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Speaker 1: Year Ohio state's won four titles in a row and

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete for a bigger. Trophy, PLUS i

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Speaker 1: KNOW i pooh poohed. It MAYBE i was being a

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Speaker 1: little bit over the. Top you can play in the

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Speaker 1: biggest rivalry in sports and be on the winning side

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Speaker 1: of that. Rivalry how good must that feel to be

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Speaker 1: on The Ohio state side to know that you've got

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Speaker 1: eight in a row in the bag and seventeen of

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Speaker 1: the last twenty against The Michigan. Wolverines.

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Speaker 2: Dan if you want to be part of the, RIVALRY

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Speaker 2: i can assure you it's better to be on the

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Speaker 2: winning side of that. Rivalry and no matter how Well

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Speaker 2: michigan does, Recruiting Jim harbaugh still can't Beat Ohio.

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Speaker 1: STATE i like that you you listed a number of

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Speaker 1: players who are drafted high because you're just you're going

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Speaker 1: if that's the place you want to. Be but AS i,

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Speaker 1: know having recruited a number of top flight players here To,

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Speaker 1: MICHIGAN i see the same trait in all of, them

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Speaker 1: and that's that desire to be the. Best and in

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Speaker 1: order to be the, best tie you have to beat the.

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Speaker 1: Best and they. Haven't they just. Haven't they haven't. Beaten,

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Speaker 1: no we have not met our standard here At. Michigan

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Speaker 1: but What i'm doing Is i'm challenging, You, Chase, chase

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Speaker 1: to be that difference maker for The Michigan. Wolverines the

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Speaker 1: a couple of years and you, know standing out in,

426
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: practice whatever it, is there's you, know there's all sorts

427
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: of reasons to Choose Ohio. State we're getting you on

428
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: the field in this rivalry. Game you're not a rotation.

429
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: Guy you're not a pass rush. Specialist if you show

430
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 1: out in, practice if you work, hard you will. Play

431
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: if you beat out, guys there are open positions across the.

432
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: Field we did not meet our, standard and every position is.

433
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: Open that means you can come. In you learn the,

434
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: playbook you hit the, weights you listen to your. Coaches you're.

435
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: Playing we're not guaranteeing you, anything but we're guaranteeing you a.

436
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: Shot we're absolutely guaranteeing you a. Shot AND i did

437
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: happen to watch some of the tape on your basketball,

438
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: games on those track, MEETS i see athleticism THAT i

439
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: think we can find a place for you on special,

440
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: teams maybe running a fake, punt maybe getting into the red.

441
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: Zone what about? Quarterback what about? Quarterback, no, no THAT'S i,

442
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: mean we here At michigan live in. Reality But i'm

443
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: saying you can get on the field for this. Offense

444
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: and with your, length with your, height with your, athleticism

445
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: we got packages for you near the red. Zone we

446
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: absolutely can make use of your. Athleticism this is it

447
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: would be a no brainer to keep you on the.

448
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Field you get the best athletes on the team there those.

449
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: Situations maybe that four minute offense at the end of.

450
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: Games can use your athleticism and your, size your. Aggression

451
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: there's a tantalizing amount that we can do with you to,

452
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: maximize provided you're, healthy provided you're, Willing we see, big

453
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: big Things in turn of your usage for The Michigan

454
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: wolf rains your.

455
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 2: Usage, yeah, usage great recruiting. TERMINOLOGY i, LOOK i appreciate your, Pitch, Dan,

456
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 2: SURE i appreciate what we're trying to.

457
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: Do but we're talking goosebumps. Potential, yeah you're punching up

458
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: a little. Bit you have, TO i get.

459
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: It i'm not going to do the novelty. Bit i'm

460
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: not going to do the novelty. Bit hey you could

461
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: play in the. Wildcat hey you could be in the,

462
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: Backfield hey you could score a.

463
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: Touch i'm not going to do. That, no it SOUNDS

464
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: i want to hasn't. Prepared do you want to play

465
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: for a championship and do you want to get paid

466
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: to play in THE. Nfl that's my. Pitch if those

467
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: things are both, true then come To Ohio. State come

468
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: To Ohio. State not to mention all of the stuff

469
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: THAT i said earlier about how the proof is in

470
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: the pudding with this, program how it can show, out

471
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: it can put guys in the.

472
00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 2: League they've got premier, facilities the just a. Dated new

473
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: recruits love cool. Facilities The Woody Hayes Athletic center got

474
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: a seven million dollar renovation a couple of years. Ago right,

475
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 2: there front and center a huge wall dedicated specifically to this.

476
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: Rivalry it includes photos from past games of video highlight

477
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: reel like you know how we joke about things being

478
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: on loop all year. Long they have. That they built

479
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: that specifically to get folks ready for The michigan. Game

480
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: it's that big of a. Rivalry and of course it

481
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: has the. Countdown you need the countdown clock so that

482
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: everybody knows what they're playing. For you got that front

483
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 2: stage center to keep you focused on the task at.

484
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: Hand not to mention all the state of the art training.

485
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: FACILITIES i mentioned the cryogenic. Chamber they've got a, Sauna

486
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: they've got anything you could possibly, imagine a golden tea

487
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: big buck, hunter like all the cool stuff that you

488
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: need to wind down after a hard day out on

489
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: the practice, field getting yourself ready for the task at.

490
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: Hand so facilities are not an. Issue facilities are only

491
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: going to help amplify your. Abilities it's never going to

492
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: get in your. Way, obviously you're going to have an

493
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: opportunity to play against the best every day in, practice

494
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: and then when you finally do get out, there guess.

495
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: What your facilities At Ohio stadium aren't any less, cool.

496
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: Not even.

497
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: Close The, horseshoe an iconic venue in college, FOOTBALL dan

498
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: a listed capacity of one hundred and four thy nine

499
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: hundred and forty. FOUR i understand that that's not as

500
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: much as The Big. House that's, Fine but the way

501
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: we see, it would you not rather have like one

502
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: hundred and five thousand really, satisfied really happy fans who

503
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: cheer on a team that they know is going to,

504
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: win as opposed to one hundred and ten thousand disappointed

505
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: fans who know that every time they step foot in

506
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: the stadium they're probably going to come out wondering is

507
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: this another eight and four? YEAR i want to be

508
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: on the side of The. HORSESHOE i want to be

509
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: among the one hundred and five thousand screaming. Fans sometimes

510
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: they can pack it in with one hundred and ten

511
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: two sharing on the. GAME i want you to be

512
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: on that field when you've got that crowd cheering your,

513
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: name rooting you, on knowing that you're gonna be the

514
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: next great thing and that your team is pointed directly

515
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: towards the national. Championship i'm telling, you you step onto

516
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: the field at The Big, House Michigan, Stadium you're going

517
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: to be a difference. Maker and that difference Is you're

518
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: a player that we, need that we have, developed that

519
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: we will continue to develop to be a difference maker

520
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: in this rivalry. Game, now obviously we are dozens strong

521
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: At michigan pointing towards the same, goal which is winning every,

522
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: game Beating Ohio state into the. Ground but we need

523
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: difference makers because there has not been a difference in

524
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: the results these past few, years which is unacceptable here

525
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: at The university Of. Michigan, NOW i hear a lot.

526
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: About, football this, facility this, horseshoe This i'm talking, football

527
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: And i'm talking football. Development i'm talking about the entire

528
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: college part of the college. Experience Jim harbaugh is big on. This,

529
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: Now Jim harbaugh has not met his standard as a head.

530
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: Coach Coach harbaugh has gone back to the drawing board

531
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: to get back to his, standard renegotiated the, contract went

532
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: down a little. Bit so he is hungry like you are.

533
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: Hungry he is hungry like the team is hungry to

534
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: change things and flip this car. AROUND i don't know

535
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: if that's a worthy. Analogy we are ready to flip

536
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: the script on what was a disappointing twenty twenty and

537
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: that begins not early on In, september doesn't begin in fall.

538
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: Camp that begins on the recruiting trail to find players

539
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: on the same, page those hungry players to flip that,

540
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: script who want to get into the weight, room who

541
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: want to get training In, January, February. March and that's

542
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: what we see in. You we see a hungry player

543
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: desperate to be a difference make and to build his

544
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: own name at The university Of. Michigan that's what we.

545
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: See that's what we. See we're making. Changes you, Know

546
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: Sean newis done a fantastic job along the defensive, line

547
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: helped to develop SOME nfl. Players you Mentioned Larry, johnson

548
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: another terrific. Coach we hear A michigan believe that you

549
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: are a great fit for. Us Jim harbaugh has coached

550
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: in A Super, bowl he has been a SUCCESSFUL nfl.

551
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: Coach he has that ability to see in players what

552
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: they need to develop for the next. Level and it

553
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: keeps happening. Again michigan the fifth largest representative represented school

554
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: on the list of MOST nfl, players on the list

555
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: of teams that have the most ACTIVE nfl. Players there's

556
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: a reason for that those who Leave michigan have a

557
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: good shot at being difference, makers not just At michigan

558
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: but the.

559
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: Pros there are some rumors That Jim harbaugh is going

560
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: to go back to THE, nfl you, know nowhere else

561
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: he'd rather win if The university Of. Michigan if you've

562
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: paid any attention to The harbaugh story In Ann, arbor

563
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: Sure michigan man back with much, fanfare much, excitement going

564
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: to rejuvenate the. Program he has certainly done a good,

565
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: job AND i think there's and he denying the fact

566
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: that he's done a good. Job, right he has not

567
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: lived up to that. Standard and some of The michigan

568
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: community are starting to grow. Restless and SO i, mean

569
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: these aren't my, words this is just what people out

570
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: there in the, world on on The, twitter on The,

571
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: googles what they would say About Jim, harbaugh that perhaps

572
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: he's not long for an, Armor perhaps that if you

573
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: sign on with, him if you go hook line and

574
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: sinker into The horrball, way The harball, mentality The harbaugh,

575
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: plan if such thing does, exist that you could be.

576
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: Left without him after year. ONE i, mean you're just

577
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: talking about hot. Air we're just having a hot air,

578
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: dissertation WHICH i guess gets you a degree right At Ohio.

579
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: State but we got. It we have to give ourselves

580
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: a standard as well here with. This and, yeah you

581
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: can say that there are. Rumors you know why there

582
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: are robot rumors About Jim harbaugh in THE nfl because

583
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: he's a desired, coach because people want to work With Jim.

584
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Harbaugh people Want Jim harbaugh coaching his, team and he.

585
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: Chooses he chooses to coach at The university Of. MICHIGAN

586
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: i don't see that Many Ryan day. RUMORS i JUST

587
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: i happen to not see the rumors involved With Ryan

588
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: day and the highest level of the, sport THE. NFL

589
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: i wonder why that. IS i wonder if people see

590
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: him as a one trick. Pony it's just. Conjecture it's

591
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: just conjecture that he doesn't have the ability to get

592
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: to the next. Level but there is that desire For Jim,

593
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: harbaugh that, thirst that hunger For Jim. Harbaugh and he

594
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: chooses once, Again tyler to stay at The university Of,

595
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: michigan when according to, you he has his pick of

596
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: the litter at the next. Level but he Sees michigan

597
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: as the, place and so should you the hut Should, No, hey,

598
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: Listen i'm here for it as. Well there's just the

599
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: thing is you're selling me on or you're Selling Chase chase.

600
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: On you, know This Ohio state defense and all these

601
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: guys that have developed and all these these all pro,

602
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: types these The bosa brothers And Chase, young all these

603
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: guys who have made a, difference you, know On draft

604
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: night and in THE. NFL i wonder Why Ohio state's

605
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: defense keeps moving in the wrong. DIRECTION i wonder why

606
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: the results aren't. THERE i wonder Why Ohio state is

607
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: lit up by a school Like. INDIANA i wonder why

608
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: the defense is lit up by a school Like. ALABAMA

609
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: a Great alabama, team but lit. Up This Ohio state

610
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: defense is trending into a. Direction now, Again i'll Tell

611
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: i'll be the first one to tell you The michigan

612
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: standard has not been met on. Defense after twenty. Twenty

613
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: Coach brown did a fantastic job from TWENTY i believe

614
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen through twenty. Nineteen But i'm seeing trends with

615
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: This Ohio state defense that they are just they're not

616
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: getting the best out of their. Players they're not turning

617
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: the of these blue chip players into actual. Production this

618
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: is a team led by its offense this past, year

619
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: to you a couple of. YEARS i just the trends are,

620
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: alarming AND i feel a responsibility to let you know

621
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: that you should be paying attention to not getting to the,

622
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: quarterback and that the defense not communicating, well letting plays behind,

623
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: them you, know not being able to tackle. CONSISTENTLY i

624
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: hear all this stuff about DEVELOPING nfl, players AND i

625
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: watched The Ohio state defense last, fall AND i think to, myself,

626
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: WELL i don't. Know, WELL i JUST i don't know

627
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: what they're thinking.

628
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: HERE i still would Put Ohio state up against just

629
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: about anybody just. About, yeah Not, indiana, sir, respectively Not indiana,

630
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: necessarily but just.

631
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: About you can make that.

632
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: Argument i'm going to go in a completely separate. Direction

633
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: one thing that you have not covered is the fact

634
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: That Chase chase is from Suburban, Chicago so perhaps he's

635
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: gotten used to that big city. Feel, Columbus ohio is

636
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: the state, capital the Great state Of. Ohio town of

637
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: about a million, people you get access to all the

638
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: amenities of being in a big. City it's actually the

639
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: second most populous city in all The, midwest behind your Native, Chicago.

640
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: Illinois so if you Like, alabama if you Like, clemson

641
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: if you like Ann, arbor but you want to live

642
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: closer to modern civilization how you're Describing, Columbus you want

643
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: to have all of the amenities of a big, city

644
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: come To Ohio. State why strap, yourself give yourself as

645
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 2: many opportunities as you, can especially in this world of

646
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: nil sure where perhaps you're looking for some endorsements that

647
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: you can use, to you, know help pay some of the.

648
00:35:53,719 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: Bills columbus is a corporate haven all sorts of have

649
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: and big corporations and big companies that are headquartered in

650
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: The columbus. Area can tell me more about all these

651
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: opportunities In, columbus be as detailed as possible and. SPECIFIC

652
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: i Think Chase chase would love to know about the

653
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: modern amenities Of, Columbus.

654
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: Ohio, well what.

655
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: We do here At Ohio state is we set up

656
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: our student athletes in the best way. Possible we give

657
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: them marketing, training we give them media, training we give

658
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: them all the tools that they need to go on

659
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: to a website like An Open doors and figure out

660
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: what are the best things for my? Brand how CAN

661
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: i make sure THAT i am protected WHEN i am

662
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: entering into some sort of endorsement. Deal we do not

663
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: seek to be that. Broker all we can do is

664
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: provide the tools so that the players out there can

665
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: go out and make the best decision possible for. Them

666
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: but there's no denying the fact that when you play

667
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: for a premier institution like The Ohio State, university that

668
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: there will be plenty of marketing opportunities for.

669
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: You, Now I'm i'm fascinated to here to hear. MORE

670
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: i look At Columbus, OHIO i see big lots AND

671
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: i See. Kroger SO i suppose you can be A

672
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: ham spokesperson In. Ohio which is that's the full. List

673
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: there's a, long, long long list of other companies you. Know,

674
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: PLEASE i look forward to it Because ham is the

675
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: fastest growing of the porky cold cuts continue TikTok. No

676
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: i'm Just i'm. Curious so you're Painting columbus like it's

677
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: some sort of combination Of La New york And Silicon.

678
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: Valley and so that's why i'd like to. KNOW i, mean,

679
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: obviously you look at the fortune five hundred companies that

680
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: have come out of an, arbor And google obviously founded

681
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: By Larry page who was, there and You're Domino's, pizza

682
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: who've done fantastic. RECENTLY i just you, know there's there's

683
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: a lot to lovely.

684
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: Arbors the headquarter of some sort In columbus. AREA i

685
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: believe Aber crombie And. Fitch, Whoa i'm.

686
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Sorry it's Case chase committing in the early two thousands

687
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: is also in the. Area, OKAY i. Understand is IS

688
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: lfo going to be on his recruiting trip on his official?

689
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: Visit will they show? Up the light Funky, ONES, Jp Morgan.

690
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: Chase they can't be head okay In, columbus can? They

691
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: it's not headquartered. Nationwide they're on your. Side, OH i,

692
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: mean you know teenagers and their love of nationwide limited.

693
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: Brands uh, huh, yeah look at. This this is Like

694
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: New York. City uh. Huh that's what people are. Saying

695
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: state farm people are that's that can't be the headquarters

696
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: For state. FARMED i was not as prepared for this

697
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: section of the argument AS i should have. Been but

698
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: there are a lot of companies In. COLUMBUS i know

699
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people live In. Columbus, now ALL i

700
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: can tell you is you you want to go to,

701
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: college you want to be in a college. Town and

702
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: that's the nice thing about getting away from The chicago

703
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: And chicago burgs is it's still a bigger college town

704
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: and you have the ability to travel really easily throughout The,

705
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: midwest throughout the, country, internationally. Whatever but Ann arbor is

706
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: second to on you, KNOW i, mean talk About, zingerman's

707
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: you talk about all sorts of, restaurants you talk about

708
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: the culture of the, nightlife And arbor is. Fantastic you

709
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: can be whatever you want to be in Ann. Arbor,

710
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: okay be whatever you want to be in Ann. Arbor

711
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: look at. That it's. True i've, Listened. Ty this is

712
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: this Is dan editorializing. Here this is not the recruiter Of. Chase.

713
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: CHASE i Think columbus is a pretty good. Place i've

714
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: been To columbus multiple. Times i've enjoyed myself. There but

715
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: putting My michigan. Recruiter hat back on and arborsh just

716
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: something special And Arbor. SCHOOL i was in Ann arbor one.

717
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: Time never been To. COLUMBUS i was in Ann arbor

718
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: one time for A Penn State michigan. Game whether it was, awful,

719
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: rain the whole time is when it.

720
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: Happens WHEN i Met Cameron Guy dave for the first,

721
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: time And i've told.

722
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: The story a million. TIMES i also saw an arcade,

723
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: burned a literal arcade. Fire.

724
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: LITERAL i saw the literal arcade fire as pinball piets

725
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: burnt down the ONE i Guess saturday NIGHT i was in.

726
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: Town but Ann arbor is a really cool. PLACE i

727
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: would love to go back when the weather doesn't, suck

728
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: because that was. Great that was a disappointing experience due

729
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: to the. Weather, otherwise are really cool. Place i'd love

730
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: to go to.

731
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: The to The.

732
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: Horseshoe i'd love to go see a game there as.

733
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: Well And i've heard great things about The Ohio state.

734
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: Experience but.

735
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: It almost pains me to say these negative things about

736
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: Ann arbor BECAUSE i really enjoyed my time.

737
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: There, okay hats back on and the other thing About michigan,

738
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: too is there's just an emotion About michigan. FOOTBALL i

739
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: mean the inner state rivalry With Michigan, state of Course

740
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: michigan and it's rivalry With Notreed. Aime there's just something

741
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: big time About michigan football and the teams that they,

742
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: play and the energy between those, teams the stages that

743
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: those games are played, on the history of those games

744
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: And Ohio state's. Fantastic but what emotion do you have

745
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: tied up In? Clemson what emotion do you have tied

746
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: up In? Alabama what do you know it's going to

747
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: the playoff to, lose Whereas michigan is trending in that upward.

748
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: Direction and it's trending that way because we are signed

749
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: up players like. You i'm.

750
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: Earth have we Met michigan trending? Up is this? New

751
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: is this? New SHOULD i play.

752
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: The breaking news? Sound michigan has a five star quarterback

753
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: entering the. Fold michigan has recruited, really really, well especially on.

754
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: Defense you'll be playing with premier players from across the.

755
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: Country you, know the Safety dak sales from all from excuse,

756
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: me From, oklahoma the linebackers that have been coming Through.

757
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Michigan you look At Devin bush And Jake, ryan all

758
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: sorts of. Players you are playing, with FANTASTIC nfl caliber,

759
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: players no different than you are At Ohio. State but

760
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: you're that difference. Maker you're that difference. Maker well let

761
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: me close on this. Please Ohio state has a long standing,

762
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: tradition as you, know the best damn band in the

763
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: land goes out there and Write ohio in script out

764
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: on the, field and it's a. Tradition it's an, honor,

765
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: frankly for one of the fourth or fifty your souzophone

766
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: players to go out there and dot the. Ie, sure you,

767
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: know on occasions sometimes it's a, celebrity an Rl, stein

768
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: an r L, stein if you, will.

769
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: Who goes out there and gives crowd goosebumps by dotting the.

770
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: Eye i'm not telling, You, chase that you're going to

771
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 2: be able.

772
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: To dot the. Ie, Wow, oh here we.

773
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: Go you are every bit is important to our defensive

774
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: line moving. Forward your every bit is important to our

775
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: defense moving. Forward you're every bit is important to our

776
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: national championship hopes moving.

777
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: Forward we need you to be on that. Line we

778
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: want you On what are you? Doing? Now what are you?

779
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: Doing he needs you on that. LINE i JUST i

780
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: think this is a mixed, message is What i'm getting,

781
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: here because we owe you opened your pitch With Ohio

782
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: state eight sells itself and you were very, short a

783
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: very truncated approach to Recruiting Chase. Chase Where i'm Telling,

784
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: Chase i'm telling you there's so many different things At

785
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: michigan for. You michigan is going to feel like home

786
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: for you because you can find your pursuit in addition

787
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: to thriving on the football. Field and you're telling, him,

788
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Well Ohio state sales, itself but also you're going to

789
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: be as important as a susophone. Player i'm just lost

790
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: in this. TIE i just am uh, right.

791
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: Do we KNOW i take it all? In do we

792
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: know If Chase chase has ever won any state? Championships

793
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: because if he, hasn't he will feel at home at Miss,

794
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: SURE i feel.

795
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: RIGHT i don't have that information in front of. ME

796
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: i don't have his docket all right right in solid

797
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: verbal at gmail dot. Com let us. KNOW i was

798
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: going so good there until the very. END i just

799
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: lost my. Training oh, WELL i mean winnings for you,

800
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: know you fumble that message on the on the one yard.

801
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: LINE i don't know what can you count on With

802
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: Ohio state solibt gmail dot. Com let us know who

803
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: you let us know who did a better job, selling

804
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: not where you would. Go my question to, You tai

805
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: is would you have changed anything about my? Pitch DID

806
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: i omit anything THAT i should have included about WHAT

807
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: i was a prospect to go To? MICHIGAN i WAS

808
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: i was thinking as you were making the argument that it.

809
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: Was it was definitely one.

810
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: Approach it was a creative approach to steer into the

811
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: shortcomings Of michigan by. Awareness, yeah and THAT'S i think that's.

812
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: Important by saying that we have not lived up to our.

813
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: STANDARD i don't know IF i would have chosen that

814
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 2: phrasing for. IT i might have, said we know there's

815
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: room for. Improvement this is why we're recruiting. You maybe

816
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: not so much we haven't lived up to our, Standard

817
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: but the spirit of what you were DOING i thought was. Creative,

818
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: WELL i mean standard establishes that you, Know michigan is

819
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: a pl that expects to win on a national. LEVEL

820
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: i THOUGHT i thought that was a good. Approach it

821
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: could have been a little bit better word, smith but

822
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: all in, all pretty good, argument pretty good. Argument, yeah what.

823
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: Do you think about The Ohio state? SIDE i would

824
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: have gone bigger into the like we already Know Ohio

825
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: state is AN nfl. Factory we already know About Chase

826
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: young and The bosa brothers and all these defensive linemen and,

827
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: linebackers and you Know Larry johnson being this legendary defensive line.

828
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: COACH i would have gone at it with a here's

829
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: what you don't know About Ohio state AND i you

830
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: know they have the like real World, wednesdays, right isn't

831
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: that a thing At Ohio state where they like they

832
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: bring in speakers Because Ohio state gets. Pigeonholed is a football.

833
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: Factory we're so much more than a football. Factory were

834
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: looking out for you, know this is a forty year,

835
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: plan not a four year. Plan and you didn't go

836
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: into that as much because that's that's selling you, know

837
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: mom and, dad that's selling the family of. That, Like,

838
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: okay we're not just looking out for your sons as

839
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: a four technique or something like. That we're looking out

840
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: for your son's. Brain we're looking out for your son's.

841
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: Future that's LIKE i would have gone with the like

842
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: for LIKE i would have flipped literally flipped that script and, say,

843
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: look you've seen us on the national. Stage you know

844
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: what we're about from a football. Perspective we develop young

845
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: men to be excellent football players that thrive here and

846
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: at the next. LEVEL i would have gone into here's

847
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: what you don't see About Ohio state football THAT i

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Speaker 1: think is the. Move, now it's not difficult to out

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Speaker 1: Recruit michigan Or Penn state or any Other Big Ten

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Speaker 1: challenge or even national programs you're competing, Against LIKE i,

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Speaker 1: Mean Ohio state's going Into texas and plucking top. Guys

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Speaker 1: but THAT i think is a differentiator, potentially because you,

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Speaker 1: Know michigan's going to sell academics and the recruit and

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Speaker 1: the alumni network things like. That Here's Ohio state's ability

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Speaker 1: to enter to that part of the. Conversation that's but,

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Speaker 1: again it's not difficult to Sell Ohio. State you look

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Speaker 1: AT i, mean just from a football it's not, no,

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Speaker 1: no all. Right but that's that's HOW i would have

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Speaker 1: rounded it out into like a a more broad selling,

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Speaker 1: point sales, pitch what is going to be our next.

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Speaker 1: Pairing i'd like to dip into a different tier in

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Speaker 1: terms of rivalry or. Brand i'm Into Oklahoma. STATE, Tcu

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Speaker 1: i'm Into are you going to make ME? Tcu aren't?

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Speaker 1: You you're? Sure why?

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Speaker 2: Not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah you want to do? That NEXT Tcu Oklahoma. State

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Speaker 1: this is going to.

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Speaker 2: Reel me back INTO. Tcu i'm going to recruit myself

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Speaker 2: back to A.

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Speaker 1: Schoolcu, Yeah i'm Selling Mike, gundy which is not SO

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Speaker 1: i think the better option IS tcu for sure in

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Speaker 1: terms of ease of. Selling But i'll dig Into Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: state And i'll see WHAT i can. FIND i, mean

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Speaker 1: we Love Pistol, pete so, YEAH i think that's going

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Speaker 1: to be our next hard SELL tcu Versus Oklahoma. State

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Speaker 1: and what? Teams what position? ARE i think wide receiver

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Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think each of them have interesting alumni in

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Speaker 1: terms OF nfl, draft in terms of, systems in terms of,

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Speaker 1: NAMES i think wide. Receiver but YOU i, mean if

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Speaker 1: you want to do, safety if you want to wide, out,

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Speaker 1: okay do wide.

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Speaker 2: Out it's a little bit of big metal from THE tcu,

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Speaker 2: side BUT i think.

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Speaker 1: No Josh dockson was just drafted pretty, high was he?

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Speaker 2: Not he was Drafted he went absolutely. Nowhere, well he got.

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Speaker 2: Hurt jalen has been another disappointment thus. Far but these

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Speaker 2: they got drafted, high got drafted. High that's life changing.

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Speaker 2: Money well let's let's let's think a little bit more about.

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Speaker 2: Name we will come armed on The tuesday show with

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Speaker 2: more names to pick from and to recruit to our

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Speaker 2: Respect pact.

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Speaker 1: Twelve you could do like A UCLA, asu or you

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Speaker 1: could DO Usc, oregon something like, THAT Usc oregan And

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Speaker 1: i'll TAKE. Usc how about? That oh? Man, OKAY i wanted.

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Speaker 1: TO i kind of wanted to Do Michigan Penn state

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Speaker 1: for this, one AND i would take you take Day. State, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah that would have been. GOOD i think that's more.

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Speaker 1: Interesting So i'm happy to TAKE usc AND usc Versus.

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Speaker 1: Oregon and in THE. ACC i don't know if we

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Speaker 1: Do Florida State miami THAT i think is potentially quite.

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Speaker 1: Interesting could Do North carolina And.

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Speaker 2: Clemson, well, look we've we've got a few more of

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Speaker 2: these that are. Planned, obviously if there is important news to,

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Speaker 2: discuss we'll do what we did On tuesday and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about that, instead and we'll come back to. This

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Speaker 2: we are building towards the twenty twenty one. Season we

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Speaker 2: start doing previews and start talking about games and hopefully

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Speaker 2: get back to some sense of. Normalcy, YadA, YadA. YadA

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Speaker 2: you know the drill, there but writ in let us

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Speaker 2: know your thoughts on which recruiting, rivalries either real or

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Speaker 2: focus on For.

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Speaker 1: I'm almost Positive Oklahoma STATE tcu are battling out for

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