Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why bone look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness dang Dong
Speaker 1: lost culture Risa's calling. What a treat for everyone listening
Speaker 1: at home, but a tragedy for the first some out there.
Speaker 1: For my bow and Yang dary hearts because this is
Speaker 1: not Bow and Yang. This is my other sister who
Speaker 1: I knew to call on when boone was having technical differenties.
Speaker 1: Introduce yourself. Hi, My name is Joaki and Booster. This
Speaker 1: is really all. This is borderline problematic to be slotting
Speaker 1: in for bo and Yang. Shut it is you know
Speaker 1: the symmetry. People are gonna talk, people are gonna make
Speaker 1: their jokes, and I don't think so, honey. People making
Speaker 1: jokes like that, and you said you didn't know what
Speaker 1: you're I don't think so, honey, was gonna be And
Speaker 1: look at you already popping off. It can't be that.
Speaker 1: How boring people Literally at d C, a fan came
Speaker 1: up to me out of meat and green was like,
Speaker 1: bo and Yang, I love your word, and I was like,
Speaker 1: we are not still doing that in the year of
Speaker 1: our Lord. Stop Asian hate. No, this is fully ridiculous. Also,
Speaker 1: I will say this, I also hosted another podcast with you.
Speaker 1: The Legally Blonde Recap podcast was truly a moment in
Speaker 1: podcasting history that feels like ten thousand years ago. I
Speaker 1: cannot believe we did that, and I cannot believe we
Speaker 1: need you know, what we need to bring back for
Speaker 1: this this episode of Lost Culture, says cousin of the one,
Speaker 1: Cousin of the Week. We need to bring that Cousin
Speaker 1: of the Week by the end of the episode. After
Speaker 1: after I don't think so, honey, Before I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: we will do Cousin of the Week. Cousin of the
Speaker 1: Week was a segment on our jlan I's Legally Blonde
Speaker 1: recap podcast. By the way, we should say it was
Speaker 1: Legally Blonde the series, the musical of the series, and
Speaker 1: we did a recap podcast for that for the next
Speaker 1: to search for the Next Style Woods, which I believe
Speaker 1: it came out thirteen years ago, and soso that feels
Speaker 1: exactly right stylistically, thematically, aesthetically that from what we watched
Speaker 1: two thousand eight feels dead on. In fact, I think
Speaker 1: it is. And we did do a segment based on
Speaker 1: the contestants that we called Cousin of the Week. Which
Speaker 1: was something I created because I felt that at any
Speaker 1: given time, any of those contestants were giving cousin energy, right,
Speaker 1: and and it makes and it tracks absolutely, it makes
Speaker 1: complete sense when you watch the show. And it will
Speaker 1: make complete sense today when we name out of all
Speaker 1: the topics that we talk about, we will be naming
Speaker 1: a cousin of the week and you you won't ask it.
Speaker 1: There are no follow up questions to be asked. No,
Speaker 1: we're not available to answer any questions after we are
Speaker 1: we are we are actually abjectively unavailable. Isn't this funny?
Speaker 1: Because you actually texted me earlier you said what are
Speaker 1: you doing tonight? Sort of intimating that you wanted to
Speaker 1: hang out and the end because you're what are you
Speaker 1: in Manhattan now? Right now? Yeah? I love the other Manhattan.
Speaker 1: Actually like how much Number seven York the Silver Lake
Speaker 1: of New York, truly Brooklyn, think about it is the
Speaker 1: sixth borough of New York. Wow, you're just saying funk
Speaker 1: Long Island where I am right now? You are saying
Speaker 1: that I I um, and this is actually it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful stand And I want you to know I have
Speaker 1: had a full day. Earlier, I went into town to
Speaker 1: get Italian ices, which is something that people often do
Speaker 1: on Long Island. And I went into town on main Street,
Speaker 1: thank you, laden Hurst v. Main Street, and I went
Speaker 1: to my favorite Italian ice place growing up. It's called
Speaker 1: Patsy's Italian Ices. And I never knew this, but on
Speaker 1: the wall there is a plaque and I said, I
Speaker 1: texted you about this before in the group chat. But
Speaker 1: there's a plaque on the wall and it's a quote
Speaker 1: from Pat Benatar being asked about her hometown and highlight.
Speaker 1: It just says Patsy's serves the best Italian ices and
Speaker 1: then it's it's it's a lack on the wall. So
Speaker 1: this town, Lindenhurst, which is right right by where I
Speaker 1: grew up and where my parents grew up, is so
Speaker 1: proud that Pat Benatar just tossed off this Italian ice comment,
Speaker 1: that they plaqued it and put it on the wall.
Speaker 1: Highlight Okay, And it's across the church from Pat Benatar's church,
Speaker 1: our Lady of Perpetual the church, it's across. It's across
Speaker 1: the church. Now, I want to be I want to
Speaker 1: be fully upfront. I want to be real and raw
Speaker 1: with all of the readers. Tonight. That's what we do.
Speaker 1: I took a melotone in about fifteen minutes before you called,
Speaker 1: and so not only am I unprepared to talk about culture,
Speaker 1: not only have I not really ingested very much culture
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, I've ingested a little melatonin.
Speaker 1: So it might be feeling a little sleepy, sleepy by
Speaker 1: the podcast. I often feel that people are at their
Speaker 1: most raw and vulnerable when they've just when they've getten
Speaker 1: a little sleepy. So I'm happy to get you in
Speaker 1: this state. But it's actually good that you that we
Speaker 1: strike a little bit of a somber tone, because have
Speaker 1: you heard the bad news? What is the news? Megan
Speaker 1: mcain is leaving the View. No, this is old. Well,
Speaker 1: we do have to talk board member. She has resigned
Speaker 1: from the View to sort of I guess commit herself
Speaker 1: fully of being a board member of last Culture says,
Speaker 1: but that's not the bad news with which I speak
Speaker 1: of which I speak. The bad news is to Charlie
Speaker 1: Samuel's Monique's bird has passed. No, And she said on
Speaker 1: her Instagram that to Chola passed in a freak accident,
Speaker 1: and then she didn't go any further I think that
Speaker 1: probably it's too painful and potentially graphic and tragic, because
Speaker 1: when I hear freak accident, I don't think you know
Speaker 1: that the bird went peacefully? No, But like you know,
Speaker 1: funck birds. I've never met a bird that I cared
Speaker 1: if they lived or died, um, not even that bird.
Speaker 1: Freak accident with with birds, by the way, can mean anything.
Speaker 1: A freak accident for a bird can mean it flew
Speaker 1: out a window, which is not that freakish for a
Speaker 1: bird to do. Well, you know that bird once ran away,
Speaker 1: That bird has the history of flying the coope, so
Speaker 1: to speak, and you know that wasn't going on. What's
Speaker 1: going on in that household? What's going on in that household?
Speaker 1: Who's having that conversation? Who's having that conversation? All I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, look, and if anyone has ever had a
Speaker 1: pet like run away, I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on in that house? And
Speaker 1: who's having that conversation? Because the bird tried to run
Speaker 1: away and successfully or flew away as it were, and
Speaker 1: then flew back and now there's a freak accident. Again,
Speaker 1: not blaming her, And I know there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of drama in her life over the past year, but
Speaker 1: also shady of God to have this happened on the
Speaker 1: week of the Potomac premiere that she's not in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: really shady of God to have it happen during America's
Speaker 1: birthday too, of all things, like to give it and
Speaker 1: take it away, to remind to sort of it's just
Speaker 1: too much, I think, to be Monique Samuels right now,
Speaker 1: to sort of see the Potomac trailer, to sort of
Speaker 1: see like Wendy really sort of take her place, as
Speaker 1: it were, as like she's like narrating the trailer. You
Speaker 1: know that Wendy is going to be bringing the drama
Speaker 1: this season in a way. And to know that like
Speaker 1: her bird died on the week of the premiere as
Speaker 1: correctly or you are correct, but um, I just I
Speaker 1: it's almost proper for me that you come in here
Speaker 1: have sort of in having ingested melotonin because I never
Speaker 1: thought this would be like a yeah, last coach and
Speaker 1: I just sort of like flashed my hands like this
Speaker 1: sort of say fanfare, this is a sedate, this is
Speaker 1: a six D, this is a calm day of remembrance.
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna get about a third of the
Speaker 1: content at the exact same time stamp, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: pay the same year old dollars. Okay, so don't you
Speaker 1: fucking complain. Why did you tell me that you would
Speaker 1: not have been in the mood to do this two
Speaker 1: hours ago? Or is that an off camera comment? Um,
Speaker 1: it's sort of an off camera comment. I it's it's
Speaker 1: not important. It's not important now, Um. I was just
Speaker 1: I've had a whirlwind day, um, full of text messages
Speaker 1: and face times and um work related stuff, and it's been.
Speaker 1: It's it is. It is. Honestly, it is for you, Matt,
Speaker 1: as my friend to hear, which is why I wanted
Speaker 1: to go to dinner with you tonight as a friend.
Speaker 1: And it is not for you, Matt as a podcaster
Speaker 1: to hear. Now how differently, honestly it could be. It
Speaker 1: could happen on an Instagram live. Now that's the the
Speaker 1: liminal space between podcasting and a private one on one dinner.
Speaker 1: Is I would reveal all on an Instagram live, but
Speaker 1: not on this podcast where no, it's the the audience
Speaker 1: is too big, Oh Jesus, alright, fine, it does live
Speaker 1: on in perpetuity Wow, scary to think about things on
Speaker 1: this podcast. Living in Perpetuity. I believe I said on
Speaker 1: my very first appearance that St. Louis was the worst
Speaker 1: city in America. So you did, and that was that
Speaker 1: sort of calls back to your very first episode, which
Speaker 1: is called All Across America, where we talked almost exclusively
Speaker 1: about which American cities were bad and which ones are good,
Speaker 1: something I really hope no one listens to, but now
Speaker 1: that I said up there probably will. And I would
Speaker 1: like to say I have since visited Phoenix, Arizona, and
Speaker 1: I would like to say Phoenix, Arizona is far worse
Speaker 1: than St. Louis. Really, yeah, Phoenix, I don't know what
Speaker 1: it's offering nothing. I went to. I had a show
Speaker 1: in in historic Downtown Phoenix. They kept saying historic. It's
Speaker 1: the arts district, Historic Downtown Phoenix. It looks like a
Speaker 1: fucking Chipotle everything out there, because you you forget, like,
Speaker 1: at least St. Louis there's history there. It's an older city.
Speaker 1: You forget that. A lot of stuff on the West
Speaker 1: Brand thanking new. There is no history, there is no culture.
Speaker 1: It's just teal. It's just a big teal Chipotle. Oh,
Speaker 1: kiel not teal it's not great. Well, the thing too
Speaker 1: is like you just said that St. Louis has a
Speaker 1: lot of history, and I'm racking my brain and this
Speaker 1: is how you know I'm in my hometown of Long Island,
Speaker 1: New York, because I'm like, what's the history on Long Island?
Speaker 1: Mark McGuire, Hey, that's something, that's something. There was a
Speaker 1: time when Mark McGuire, he was I mean, look at
Speaker 1: me in my baseball hat. By the way, if you
Speaker 1: look behind me, look at all those trophies. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: so masks, so mask, it's incredible, how mask? I sort
Speaker 1: of I'm on Long Island and I'm telling you it
Speaker 1: comes out your your voice is deeper and deeper and darker. Yeah. Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's part of having the gay cold. I have the
Speaker 1: Gate cold. I got it. I caught the Gate cold
Speaker 1: finally over the weekend. So you are a believer, then
Speaker 1: in the Gate cold you would not sort of, Yes,
Speaker 1: I believe that when gay people party for five weekends
Speaker 1: in a row and get you know, no less than
Speaker 1: four hours of sleep for five days of those in
Speaker 1: a row, every single week, that you will develop a cold,
Speaker 1: especially especially after a iconic period of um immune system
Speaker 1: suppression and over hand sanitation. We were iconically separated this
Speaker 1: pride and Fourth of July weekend, So I don't know
Speaker 1: how yours was, and that's something I can hear about
Speaker 1: my pride. Yeah, well, how was your damn pride? How
Speaker 1: was your Fourth of July weekend? I don't I'm not
Speaker 1: even going to see you on my Fire Island trip,
Speaker 1: which feels stupid. My pride was sucking fantastic. I was
Speaker 1: in San Francisco for all of it, and it was,
Speaker 1: um it was a delight. And listen, I think people
Speaker 1: sleep on San Francisco as a pride city. It is,
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, there were plenty of people
Speaker 1: that were visiting there. But you know, from my entire life,
Speaker 1: since I was a child, since I was three years old,
Speaker 1: since I could stand up, I said, I do pride
Speaker 1: in New York, That's where I do it. Okay, That's
Speaker 1: where the Stonewall riots happened. That's where I need to be. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's where all the good floats are, all the all
Speaker 1: the good big floats, big banks. Yeah, but there was actually,
Speaker 1: um uh, there was a riot before stone Wall that
Speaker 1: happened um. In San Francisco. Um, it was called the
Speaker 1: Okay Professor. Yeah, God, you're an iconic professor. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: in fact, I think it's Um, it was more appropriate
Speaker 1: for me to spend my pride in San Francisco. I
Speaker 1: had a lovely time. I saw a lot of my
Speaker 1: friends there. Um, I UM, A lot of stuff happened.
Speaker 1: It is difficult because a lot of my friends who
Speaker 1: were there listened to this podcast. And so I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to want to. I don't
Speaker 1: want to docks. I don't want to docks them. Don't docks.
Speaker 1: You don't dock to them or yourself. It's actually who
Speaker 1: ess actually rule of culture number don't docks them or
Speaker 1: your or yourself. Don't do it? True or false? You
Speaker 1: like your San Francisco friends better than me? Yes? True?
Speaker 1: Absolutely true? Um, absolutely true. Is it because they're more fun?
Speaker 1: Is it because they're less fun? Why do you like
Speaker 1: them better than me? Because I know you do. Um,
Speaker 1: I would say I like them better than you because
Speaker 1: they're they're certainly kinder to me. Um, they're a kinder bunch. Um,
Speaker 1: they're more diverse. Um, you know that than you? Uh
Speaker 1: it does you know optically is a better look for me?
Speaker 1: Of course? Yeah, that's important to consul. I literally, I
Speaker 1: literally importivirta. Before San Francisco, I met a guy and
Speaker 1: was making out with him, and like the third thing
Speaker 1: I said to him was like, why did you have
Speaker 1: to be white? God? That is because if you're because
Speaker 1: why because if your photograph people will drag. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get dragged for it all the time. I get dragged
Speaker 1: for it all the time. I got dragged for it
Speaker 1: in San Francisco for hanging out with too many white
Speaker 1: gays yea, and two of them in the picture that
Speaker 1: I posted were Latino. So I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: can't I can't win in this town. I can't win
Speaker 1: in this town. I think you can win in this town.
Speaker 1: You just have to. Well, first of all, that's is
Speaker 1: that even that's something that you get a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: check my damns, babe, check how am I going to
Speaker 1: get in there? I knowsly is iron classed? Well, that
Speaker 1: disappoints me. You feel like you can't be in a
Speaker 1: picture with me because people are gonna say that guy's white.
Speaker 1: Fuck that I mentioned me upset? Well, I mean you
Speaker 1: are Greek and that is something you know, someone did
Speaker 1: look at me one time and say is he some
Speaker 1: sort of not white? And then someone that they the
Speaker 1: person they they asked that to turn to them and
Speaker 1: said no, and they were, of course right, I am
Speaker 1: exactly some sort of white. I am what we were
Speaker 1: talking to, because I've been wearing a lot of ribbed
Speaker 1: tanks formally known as wife beaters. Yeah, and thank you
Speaker 1: for speaking that out loud. It's actually really culture number
Speaker 1: one hundred and seven there, formerly known as the wife beaters.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for considence on that one as well.
Speaker 1: But somebody was like, why do they call them wife beaters?
Speaker 1: And I literally said, I think it's derogatory towards Greek people.
Speaker 1: Know it's you know who it's derogatory towards. Is the
Speaker 1: the sort of uh milk white asses, like your eminem types,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you're detroitters. I think that
Speaker 1: wife Peter pre dates that, though, Yeah, you know, it
Speaker 1: is really interesting. I think we've talked about this like
Speaker 1: the I was explaining that item of clothing to someone
Speaker 1: and the word wife beater just kind of flew out
Speaker 1: in my mouth, suggesting that it's been in my mouth
Speaker 1: for a very long time, and that we just accepted
Speaker 1: it a as what that item of clothing is called,
Speaker 1: and be that it was an acceptable thing to sort
Speaker 1: of conjure up that imagery when simply stating what someone
Speaker 1: was wearing. And I remember I said it, and I
Speaker 1: immediately was like, oh my god, can you believe that
Speaker 1: I just called it that? And that we all the
Speaker 1: the collective we called it that. Yeah, it's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things to be self righteous about. Actually these days,
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite things to be selfrighteous about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's well, it's actually interesting we just had eminem because
Speaker 1: I love to be self righteous about eminem too. So
Speaker 1: everything I think about you, every time I say I
Speaker 1: stand something, every time I say I stand something, And
Speaker 1: by the way, I have not changed the behavior. I'll
Speaker 1: continue to say it, but I think it constant everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I and I I was like leading the charge of
Speaker 1: being like, we can't do this. It's an eminem thing.
Speaker 1: And remember how painful he was. I love nothing more
Speaker 1: than to get on my soapbox about eminem. One of
Speaker 1: the coolest things about me, I'd say, is how upset
Speaker 1: and angry and righteous I get. And then the next
Speaker 1: day I turned around I stand, Ashley Simpson stand, how
Speaker 1: did you know how to hurt me? How did you
Speaker 1: know how to hurt me and expose me? I recently
Speaker 1: discovered I was talking with a friend about this. Ashley
Speaker 1: Simpson is the perfect pop cultural reference for almost all occasions,
Speaker 1: For almost all occasions, I was literally telling him. I
Speaker 1: was telling him about the Hollywood Bowl performance of Chicago
Speaker 1: and how which apparently she slayed. She slayed, She did slay.
Speaker 1: But I was like telling him about it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, they always cast it with like
Speaker 1: these weird C list celebrities like Chicago with Ashley Simpson,
Speaker 1: and he thought I was He thought I was fucking
Speaker 1: brilliant first of all, because he thought he was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: what an incredible improvised line, like these two references together.
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, babe, this is real. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying history. Okay, talk about me. Maybe it's the
Speaker 1: Glossary of St. Louis, because it's history, baby. It is
Speaker 1: fun to think about. It is fun to think about
Speaker 1: has beens in the Hollywood Bowl like uish has been?
Speaker 1: What is your combo C list celebrity And honestly, here's mine.
Speaker 1: Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin starring with Erica Jane in
Speaker 1: a Hollywood Bull version of Chicago. I want Rinna playing Velma.
Speaker 1: I want Erica Jane doing Roxy what she did and
Speaker 1: also Roxy. Of course. I mean Rinna famously would not
Speaker 1: stop talking about how she did Roxy. But I also
Speaker 1: think she's got Velma in her. We see the way
Speaker 1: she moved uptuous. And I think Harry Hamlin, I would
Speaker 1: like to see him do Billy Flynn. I think, um,
Speaker 1: that was Luan and there as the matron Mama Morton,
Speaker 1: because she was this close to booking that gig. So
Speaker 1: she says, so, she says, let's be real. She was
Speaker 1: out here like really saying it was happening. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing Chicago. That was my Countess Luin and
Speaker 1: I'm doing Chicago and I don't even think that was official. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to see, um, I want to see uh,
Speaker 1: Phil of the Future. Sure in next to Normal whatever
Speaker 1: that kid's name is. You want to see, Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: what is that kid's name? We're gonna call him Fellow
Speaker 1: the Future. Um, but you want to see sort of
Speaker 1: a bad next to normal. I don't want to see
Speaker 1: next to Normal done badly. See these other shows you
Speaker 1: can see done badly because it's the Camp Chicago. We
Speaker 1: can see done badly next to normal? Did I ever
Speaker 1: tell you about the time I saw next to normal?
Speaker 1: And B? But I'm I can't wait to hear about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I won the lottery, so you know how you could
Speaker 1: go likes put your name in the lottery. I won,
Speaker 1: and we got to sit in the Lincoln seats, which
Speaker 1: I call them because famously, you know, he's sort of
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I was in like that Mezzanian box,
Speaker 1: and um, I cried harder than I think I've ever
Speaker 1: cried in my life next to my friend Mackenzie, who
Speaker 1: who was like my my friend, like we were like
Speaker 1: sophomores in college, and we I literally I wept so
Speaker 1: hard at Alice Ripley sue anyway, I'm believing. I thought
Speaker 1: you'd like to know remember her like iconic? Did you
Speaker 1: see it with her? I didn't see it with her? No,
Speaker 1: you up? I saw. I saw. I saw a summer
Speaker 1: summer stock theater production of it. Who was in it?
Speaker 1: What did you even have a good nobody? Nobody was?
Speaker 1: My God? It was terrible? Did and what what I
Speaker 1: would give to go back and see some of the
Speaker 1: stuff that was on Broadwa when we were in New York.
Speaker 1: What we need to do is get Alice Ripley on
Speaker 1: TikTok because do you remember the YouTube videos. Do you
Speaker 1: remember the YouTube videos of Alice Ripley just completely losing
Speaker 1: her mind on a video blog. We need Alice Ripley
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Yeah, I mean I think all these all
Speaker 1: these actresses of a certain age that are like um
Speaker 1: sort of you know, aging out of their types on Broadway,
Speaker 1: they should go to TikTok because that's where it's happening.
Speaker 1: And I do think like that this the Zoomer generation
Speaker 1: would respond to them because they have the tricks, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, local tricks, and this is the
Speaker 1: sort of thing like you can you can get Alice
Speaker 1: Repley can get her tricks across and TikTok like that
Speaker 1: Shoshana Beam is flopping not being on TikTok. Well, you see,
Speaker 1: I was talking more about Al's Ripley's like spoken words
Speaker 1: sort of jet fields that sort of is she is
Speaker 1: she um? Is she a denier? You know what? That's
Speaker 1: the energy that she brings to those videos. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say. I don't want to say for sure,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say with certainty that she is
Speaker 1: a Denier, but that is definitely the energy, the vibe
Speaker 1: that she brings to those videos. Oh my god, how
Speaker 1: iconic to bring nine eleven denier energy. But she's got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are angels in this city. Yeah, angels in this city.
Speaker 1: And steel doesn't melt like that. By the way, speaking
Speaker 1: America drains, I haven't really gotten to download with you
Speaker 1: about the Housewives of it All. Well, let's do it.
Speaker 1: What are your fucking thoughts? She's absolutely guilty. Have you
Speaker 1: seen The Hustler and the and the and the and
Speaker 1: the Housewife? I was waiting to watch it with Sudi.
Speaker 1: Can you sort of download me? Well, there's really nothing
Speaker 1: new except like, they're both at fault, they're both staled,
Speaker 1: they're both evil. Um. It is worth watching the first
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes just to have Danielle Stob try to explain
Speaker 1: how she knows Erica Jane UM, because it's literally like
Speaker 1: she doesn't she doesn't know Erica Jane And it's she's
Speaker 1: literally like, yeah, we met um one time and I
Speaker 1: there was something about like and it's so clear. She
Speaker 1: has no idea, they have never they have no relationship. Um,
Speaker 1: but that's fun. Um it is. It is worth watching,
Speaker 1: like the first forty minutes for sure. I don't think
Speaker 1: you need the full hour and a half, but especially
Speaker 1: because daniel Stob is apparently quite a large part of it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you didn't think it was
Speaker 1: gonna happen, we already have our front runner for Cousin
Speaker 1: of the week, which is Danielle Stob and she especially
Speaker 1: here on Long Island where I am, that is a
Speaker 1: Long Island cousin. If I've ever seen one absolutely positive
Speaker 1: about information, she does not have that. And also just
Speaker 1: her entire state of being, you know what they'll also,
Speaker 1: I would say Alice is definitely in the running for
Speaker 1: cousin because she's that she's that older cousin that you
Speaker 1: still have to call aunt, even though she's not really
Speaker 1: your aunt, she's technically your cousin. Would call her aunt
Speaker 1: Alice anyways, because she's so much older than everybody else. Yes,
Speaker 1: because it would feel odd for her to be she's
Speaker 1: not one of the cousins. She certainly doesn't sit at
Speaker 1: the kid's table. No, no, no, no, no, childless has
Speaker 1: been less but related and around. I've told you though
Speaker 1: that like literally when I was younger. I didn't know
Speaker 1: this until I started watching Real Housewives in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: But Melissa Gorga is peak hot cousin energy. Like when
Speaker 1: you're a little gay boy on Long Island, you want
Speaker 1: to be Melissa Gorga more than anything else, at least
Speaker 1: in the past two seasons when she's got like her
Speaker 1: like sorr. But I mean she would admit to this,
Speaker 1: like she's got her work like all the way done
Speaker 1: and together and settled in and she's like dressing better
Speaker 1: than ever. She is peak cousin energy Gorgah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't see that. That's not my in the Midwest,
Speaker 1: it's not our culture to look like that. It's just
Speaker 1: not um yeah, I'm like, we're much more of a
Speaker 1: sweatpants tucked into an ug's like very platinum blonde, right,
Speaker 1: that's sort of sort of like a younger Sutton Strack,
Speaker 1: maybe even like Brandy Glanville. Oh tough, yeah, um well,
Speaker 1: but okay, So so Erica Jane. She is guilty as
Speaker 1: per She is absolutely guilty. She knew something. She absolutely
Speaker 1: knew something. I hate and Andy is protecting her. Andy
Speaker 1: is protecting her in a way on this show that
Speaker 1: I you know, he's my king, you know, he's my king.
Speaker 1: Let's tell me, let me sell you something. He's my
Speaker 1: king too. And it's going to be a race. Your
Speaker 1: way ahead of me right now, but it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a race. Okay, we'll see we'll see you. No, you
Speaker 1: know I love to share boys with you. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is fully true. U Um but anyway, hey king, if
Speaker 1: you're listening, Um, but wait, wait, wait, does the documentary
Speaker 1: alleged that Andy is protecting her or did you Jill
Speaker 1: Kim Booster he alleged that he's protecting her. You watch
Speaker 1: the documentary and then you watch the show and you're like,
Speaker 1: this show is protecting Erica Jane, Like they're giving her
Speaker 1: this narrative and who knows, who knows what turn it's?
Speaker 1: Who knows what turns it will take by the end.
Speaker 1: You know, I do think ourselves smells a rat. I
Speaker 1: do think that she is onto her a little bit,
Speaker 1: But um, I don't know that we're gonna get a
Speaker 1: ton of Eric Jane is guilty on the show itself. Well,
Speaker 1: Erica Jane does not like her at it. Did you
Speaker 1: hear about this? No Erica? And you know who's by
Speaker 1: the way, you know who's been curiously silent on the
Speaker 1: Erica Jane of it all? Is big? Is big? Erica
Speaker 1: Jane stand Megan McCain curiously silent now that it seems
Speaker 1: Erica Jane maybe go into the big house as they
Speaker 1: call it, Megan, she didn't want to comment time. She
Speaker 1: was like, I know this is going to become a
Speaker 1: top story and I have to leave now before it
Speaker 1: becomes um ubiquitous in the culture. Um no, no, no.
Speaker 1: But basically my thing is like, if Erica Jane is
Speaker 1: guilty and she doesn't like her edit because I guess
Speaker 1: they show her sort of flaunting her wealth in the
Speaker 1: early episodes like and and I think she's unhappy about
Speaker 1: it all, then does she continue on the show. And
Speaker 1: if she doesn't continue on the show, what happens? Does
Speaker 1: she go to jail? Is it like that bad? Or
Speaker 1: is it like, you know, non felonious, like attached to
Speaker 1: your like insanely you know, fell in husband. I don't
Speaker 1: know what is it? You know? Um something about me
Speaker 1: is that I'm not a legal expert. Um and I've
Speaker 1: been saying that this is why we need a Sonny
Speaker 1: hostin on the show. This is what we need a
Speaker 1: Sonny to cut too and go can you explain this
Speaker 1: to us? But I'm absolutely going to speak out of
Speaker 1: turn and say she flips, flips, she gets a plea guard,
Speaker 1: she gets a plea bargain, she flips, She goes back
Speaker 1: to waiting tables, She does Erthy Jane performances on the weekends.
Speaker 1: She loses Mikey. Oh, I want the scene where they were,
Speaker 1: where he had, where she has to fire him. I
Speaker 1: want the scene where she looks at her fucking books,
Speaker 1: realizes she can't keep Mikey and has to sort of
Speaker 1: call him over and in a much more dramatic breakup
Speaker 1: than anything she could have ever had with Tom Girardi,
Speaker 1: has to let Mikey go that and and it's just
Speaker 1: such a shame because I don't think he's done. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's done with the work that he wants
Speaker 1: to do, Like he came back. He's got those all
Speaker 1: star lips now. But I think he wants the teeth
Speaker 1: too big. I think he wants the teeth. I think
Speaker 1: he wants I think he's I think he's in this
Speaker 1: for a long time. I think he's in in this
Speaker 1: for an eventual eye lift. I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: think he's in this for a long haul. And I
Speaker 1: actually I think he's gotten more to say. I think
Speaker 1: Mikey has more to say creatively, and I want him
Speaker 1: on the team. Still, I'm just upset, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I guess I didn't realize I liked Erica Jane
Speaker 1: this much, but I really don't want her to be
Speaker 1: I don't want her to be a criminal. I'm so,
Speaker 1: I'm sort of I've been done with Erica Jane for
Speaker 1: a couple of seasons. Now. I don't need her on
Speaker 1: the show. She she gives nothing. Why is she given?
Speaker 1: In the last two seasons, she gives nothing. And we've
Speaker 1: now got to read Derek gives the looks, brings the
Speaker 1: drama to re brings her goofy little accent. We don't
Speaker 1: need Erica. Yeah, I forget that, that's true. And go
Speaker 1: back and watch, go back and watch that confrontation on
Speaker 1: the boat. I showed this to you over Quarantine. You're right,
Speaker 1: this was this was something. This is what kept us
Speaker 1: going in Quarantine. Was this confrontation on the boat where
Speaker 1: derrit says, you are cold and you bring nothing, and
Speaker 1: she was right to go back and watch that fight
Speaker 1: on the China boat. She was right, deret was right.
Speaker 1: Believe you actually are a percent right that Dorrits sort
Speaker 1: of handled Erica in that moment that I think and
Speaker 1: I think I think I said to you like and
Speaker 1: I think Dorit's response was not in Erica's playbook. It's
Speaker 1: like America doesn't get spoken back to like that. Like
Speaker 1: Erica says, when Erica Jane says to anyone, you're jealous
Speaker 1: of me, the response that she thinks she's gonna get
Speaker 1: is you're right, and I'm afraid of you two. And
Speaker 1: Derrett was like, hold on, wait, pause it all. I'm
Speaker 1: not jealous of you. I'm not afraid of you. I
Speaker 1: don't like you. Why what what is there to like
Speaker 1: about you? I find you to be really cold and
Speaker 1: not fun to be around, and you're a bully. And
Speaker 1: that was that was I think that's why there is
Speaker 1: still there today and Teddy is not. Because Teddy was
Speaker 1: shaking like a leaf the whole time, like a leaf,
Speaker 1: and and without the looks she you have to bring
Speaker 1: some column, make some column. B She had no calm,
Speaker 1: She had no columns. She was collapsed, tough about your
Speaker 1: Midwest cousin. That's talk tucked into an ug. That's Teddy Mellencamp,
Speaker 1: That's t Mellencamp. And we say that was all the
Speaker 1: love in the world for John Cougar Mellencamp. And where
Speaker 1: are we? Where are we? The re uh Sutton v Crystal? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: so I this is here's the thing. I am a slutton.
Speaker 1: I am a I am a sluton. Identify as a slutton.
Speaker 1: Um tell me that girl. Tell me you're that girl.
Speaker 1: But but I'm not that girl. And I was with
Speaker 1: Crystal the entire way throughout that entire thing, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Crystal to me, is killing it. She's crushing it.
Speaker 1: I think that she could eventually one day move to
Speaker 1: center couch because I think that she will be the
Speaker 1: one to start in old ly with Kyle or Jury.
Speaker 1: And I think she'll be able to handle herself because
Speaker 1: I think she's smart. I think she's rich in a
Speaker 1: real way. I think she can back up everything she says.
Speaker 1: And I think she's and I say this with all
Speaker 1: the love in the world for her. She's a bitch.
Speaker 1: She's a bitch and and and I I think it's
Speaker 1: like aspirational. She's like she genuinely believes in her heart
Speaker 1: of hearts, like ultimately, I could walk away from Sutton
Speaker 1: right now and she would think about it forever and
Speaker 1: I could get over it. And I kind of am.
Speaker 1: I just think she sort of overplayed her hand here
Speaker 1: re the Sutton walking into her bedroom of it all.
Speaker 1: I think that she is gonna learn from this because
Speaker 1: I think she went a little too far and gave
Speaker 1: them fodder with this thing of the violating of it all,
Speaker 1: like Crystal, like Sutton walked into my bedroom and I
Speaker 1: wasn't dressed, and it was a violation that language is
Speaker 1: going to give these white women who are like super
Speaker 1: concerned about cancelation and super like that's a very that's
Speaker 1: a very damning accusation. That's a very big word that
Speaker 1: you're throwing around their Crystal like she's going to give
Speaker 1: them ammunition to be like, shame on you for making
Speaker 1: Crystal seem to be this person. And actually even Garcelle
Speaker 1: thought it was too much and you and I was
Speaker 1: really hoping for an alliance there and it almost happened.
Speaker 1: Crystal would have been smarter to Harp. More on Sutton's
Speaker 1: I don't see race issue and less on the violation issue,
Speaker 1: it would have been a better play. I think it
Speaker 1: just got exhausting for her though that plotline. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to continue that plotline either. Would you like to
Speaker 1: be the one on the show that's having to handle
Speaker 1: someone that is so much like it's like this with
Speaker 1: Dr Tiffany and Moon on Dallas. I think she got
Speaker 1: so bogged down in the Brandy storyline, and then also
Speaker 1: with um what's her face? Cameron, and you're talking about
Speaker 1: men who are I'm sorry, but so much dumber than
Speaker 1: her that it's like, at a certain point you have
Speaker 1: to feel shitty for even like allowing yourself to continue
Speaker 1: the storyline because it's not gonna go anywhere because you're
Speaker 1: not playing with people with a full deck. And I
Speaker 1: think that Crystal saw the way that Sutton was responding
Speaker 1: to all of everything Crystal was saying about like just
Speaker 1: trying to walk it back and being like, you can't
Speaker 1: be a person that says I don't see race. That's
Speaker 1: not the way we do things anymore. Like understand that
Speaker 1: my situation is more different, is more and more difficult,
Speaker 1: and I think she just realized that Sutton was not
Speaker 1: operating at a level where she could get that in
Speaker 1: that moment or at all, so she kind of back.
Speaker 1: I mean, these women need Hazard pay. Every person of
Speaker 1: color on a show that is predominantly white, on one
Speaker 1: of these franchises, deserves Hazard Pay for the educating that
Speaker 1: they have. They are they're backed into a corner to do.
Speaker 1: They have no choice but to do it. But we can't.
Speaker 1: We have to, we have to start talking about Housewives. No,
Speaker 1: because the one thing I want to first of all,
Speaker 1: why do you say that to me? I'm just aware
Speaker 1: of people who listen to this show who don't watch
Speaker 1: them The Housewives? Oh why because they live in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: That I know people who don't live in San Francisco
Speaker 1: who also don't listen to the Housewives. I want to
Speaker 1: say one more thing, which is that I couldn't give
Speaker 1: a ship less about New York this season. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Leah really overplayed her hand. She really overplayed her hand.
Speaker 1: This this happens with second season. This happens all the
Speaker 1: time with girls who have good first seasons or good
Speaker 1: seasons even they go in high on their own supply.
Speaker 1: They think their ship, don't stink. They think they can
Speaker 1: get away with anything. They think they can say anything,
Speaker 1: including I'm not going to vote in election. And she
Speaker 1: lost me. She lost me. No, that was that was
Speaker 1: That was definitely a flashback to a very bad emotional
Speaker 1: time for all of us when we were dealing with
Speaker 1: people like Leah who were like these gorgeous, rich, white
Speaker 1: blond women who are like, I'm just so fucking pissed
Speaker 1: up the whole thing. I'm like, I'm probably not going
Speaker 1: to vote. I'm just like you. Oh it's tough. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's tough. And I think because she presents as so cool,
Speaker 1: she gets away with a lot of ship, a lot
Speaker 1: of ship. Yeah, and it's just but like the coolness
Speaker 1: of it all is like so manufactured that it just
Speaker 1: it's you can see the cracks are showing this season.
Speaker 1: The cracks are showing in a way where it's like,
Speaker 1: and also, just go fucking home. I'm so tired of
Speaker 1: her being like my grandmother is dying and I have
Speaker 1: to be on this vacation right now. Go home. Bit,
Speaker 1: just go home, all right? You know what? Moving away
Speaker 1: from this, how would you rate your excitement level from
Speaker 1: on a one through ten scale for Black Widow because
Speaker 1: I don't know about my own number. Really, I would
Speaker 1: have thought you would be an eight or I because
Speaker 1: I'm fairly I'm fairly an eight. I would say, and
Speaker 1: are you? But are you like are you like A
Speaker 1: are you a Black Widow fan? I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: lady fan, same, you know. But then I'm a prestige
Speaker 1: actress fan. So you would consider me three of them
Speaker 1: in one movie. That's true. That's true, And we did here.
Speaker 1: Louis did say that he felt the movie was not bad.
Speaker 1: But Louis that's huge, yeah, because he hates Marvel. But um,
Speaker 1: Rachel Weiss didn't have a lot to do. Florence is
Speaker 1: fun and Scarlett kind of just does what she does,
Speaker 1: which is honestly what I was expecting from this. I
Speaker 1: guess I think that maybe the Black Widow, I just
Speaker 1: don't find her to be the most compelling Marvel character.
Speaker 1: And I think that you kind of know what she's
Speaker 1: been through already, right, Yeah. I mean the thing is
Speaker 1: is she's sort of the utility player narratively, you know,
Speaker 1: like she they slap her in in a lot of
Speaker 1: spaces in the movie, and and she does she serves
Speaker 1: a function in each movie that is sort of like
Speaker 1: immaterial to her character, Like she plays a very specific
Speaker 1: role in UM, Winter Soldier, she plays much Ultron, she plays,
Speaker 1: She's she plays you know it? Does they do sort
Speaker 1: of like use her for whatever they need in that
Speaker 1: movie specifically? And I just think that like there is
Speaker 1: not a lot of there there yet because we haven't
Speaker 1: how a movie to focuses on yet. Here's the question
Speaker 1: I have for you, as someone who is a major
Speaker 1: and Marvel fan and someone that watches it very closely
Speaker 1: and knows it from different angles, not just the movies.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the character of the Black Widow
Speaker 1: is used movie to movie in a way that is
Speaker 1: truthful to her character because she's looking for connection and
Speaker 1: looking for a family. Or do you think that Scarlett
Speaker 1: Johanson is often placed in these movies because they want
Speaker 1: some sort of will veera won't they with whoever the
Speaker 1: male leaders of that movie? Because when I watched Winter Soldier,
Speaker 1: there's like a few moments like especially this moment in
Speaker 1: the car, It's like this actually kind of cool moment,
Speaker 1: and and for the Marvel movies, UM at that point anyway,
Speaker 1: in the Winter Soldier where um uh, Captain America and
Speaker 1: the Black Widow are driving in the car and it's
Speaker 1: really quiet scene. There's like this like sort of like
Speaker 1: slow song playing on the radio and they're having this
Speaker 1: conversation about like, um like where they belong in the world,
Speaker 1: and it's like sort of romantic, and I'm like, are
Speaker 1: are they intimating that that's a thing. And then also
Speaker 1: there's like a huge romantic plotline throughout the movies with
Speaker 1: the Hulk and Black Widow and they even kiss. And
Speaker 1: then in Avengers Endgame famously, her last scene spoiler alert
Speaker 1: is with Hawkeye played by Jeremy Renner, and it's intimated
Speaker 1: that they also have had a romantic history. I don't
Speaker 1: think that that that's quite as clear. I think that
Speaker 1: they have always. That's one of the consistencies I think
Speaker 1: from It's Very Charged, from from Age of Ultra is
Speaker 1: that they're very close like boot like what is it
Speaker 1: like Budapest or whatever They referenced a couple of times
Speaker 1: um in the movies, like this is just like Budapest
Speaker 1: or some ship like. I do think that they have
Speaker 1: like a closeness. I think that they have both similarly
Speaker 1: like dark pasts that only they are aware of. But
Speaker 1: I don't think, um, I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: that the the Endgame thing was supposed to be romantic.
Speaker 1: I don't think there was anymili No. I think it
Speaker 1: was familiar. I think it was completely familiar. Interesting because yes,
Speaker 1: Hawkeye in the movies is very much with Linda Cardelini,
Speaker 1: which CARLINI one of the biggest wats I would say
Speaker 1: second biggest waste of of a great actress in the
Speaker 1: Marvel universe. And you know what number one is Rachel McAdams.
Speaker 1: We we've I've said it on this podcast before, I'll
Speaker 1: say it again. We need to get her new agents.
Speaker 1: Who is repping Rachel McAdams. Yeah. I think that Rachel
Speaker 1: McAdams suffers from being I think she suffers from fifth
Speaker 1: choice syndrome. I think that this I've said this on
Speaker 1: this podcast before. I think that Rachel McAdams doesn't deserve
Speaker 1: this at all. But I think this is what happens
Speaker 1: with her. I think that she's so good at everything,
Speaker 1: and she had that breakout moment in like two thousand
Speaker 1: four where she was like the lead of the Notebook
Speaker 1: and the lead and and Regina George and she was
Speaker 1: in Red Eye, and she was so likable and amazing
Speaker 1: in um Wedding Crashers, and then she was in Family
Speaker 1: Stone and did this great character performance and I believe
Speaker 1: had supporting actress buzz for that and was just everywhere that.
Speaker 1: I think people didn't see her in a specific enough way,
Speaker 1: and I think they didn't know what movies to really
Speaker 1: either write for her or push her for or whatever.
Speaker 1: So what happened was she sort of became this person
Speaker 1: who was like on everyone's list, but not first. And
Speaker 1: she also sort of popped off in the Jennifer Lawrence era,
Speaker 1: and so this I just think what happened to her
Speaker 1: is there weren't enough good parts for women at that
Speaker 1: time in film, and she was specifically popping off in film,
Speaker 1: and it would it would be a few years until
Speaker 1: that was a little bit better. And it's still not
Speaker 1: that much better because now TV is Queen, TV as Queen.
Speaker 1: She had her opportunity on TV, though wasn't her I
Speaker 1: know it wasn't her fault, but like, why haven't we been?
Speaker 1: Where's her? Marathies Town? You know we tried. It's got
Speaker 1: to be coming, It's gotta be coming. It's gotta be
Speaker 1: coming because think about how on paper she's made every
Speaker 1: right decision in the world. It's true and and and
Speaker 1: and and if Mean Girls came out today, she would
Speaker 1: have been nominated for you know, we're so much kinder
Speaker 1: now to not only just comedic performances but also comedic
Speaker 1: performances from women. I mean, like that Melissa McCarthy nomination
Speaker 1: was like huge, and they always did this. I mean,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, like if there were going
Speaker 1: to be broad comedy performances honored, like it would happen
Speaker 1: in that category. I mean all the way going back
Speaker 1: to Cactus Flower with Goldie han Or like you know,
Speaker 1: Marissa Tomay and my cousin Vinnie like always yes, but
Speaker 1: high school never. I do think it would be It
Speaker 1: would be better now. I think you're right. And what
Speaker 1: we call the Hailey Steinfeld era and he had to
Speaker 1: ride a horse, she had to ride a horse. She
Speaker 1: had to do that goose the accent, I think, you know.
Speaker 1: And I just watched Clueless again today, Brittany Murphy, I
Speaker 1: have said this. I said this across the table from
Speaker 1: my friend, our friend, Matt Whittaker, and he scoffed in
Speaker 1: my face. I said, if Britney Murphy were alive today,
Speaker 1: she would have been nominated for an Oscar. She would
Speaker 1: have had a cross. She is. She was the moment
Speaker 1: and she continues to be the moment. You are a
Speaker 1: hundred percent right, jil Cam Booster, and it's why you've
Speaker 1: been on this podcast seven hundred times and why you
Speaker 1: were an Icon Award winner. UM, aren't you? Are you
Speaker 1: a Last Culture Kind Of Award winner? I don't think
Speaker 1: I think that's won it like three times. I don't
Speaker 1: think I have won. I have an announcement as of tonight,
Speaker 1: Joe Kim, you have won the Last Cultures Like Kind
Speaker 1: Award for coming in on the clutch and you are
Speaker 1: gonna get a gift. This is really exciting because for
Speaker 1: saying do you want to give a quick speech? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would like to thank UM, the WiFi in the
Speaker 1: Dominican Republic for keeping for keeping going off this podcast. UM.
Speaker 1: I would like to thank Matt Um for you know,
Speaker 1: needing to fill time, UM, and forgetting that I had
Speaker 1: hadn't won the award in the first place, and mistakenly
Speaker 1: believing that I had. UM. And I'd like to thank,
Speaker 1: of course Brittany Murphy for being sort of the launching
Speaker 1: pad of my greatest take on this podcast that I've
Speaker 1: probably said on the podcast before. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: been a year and a half since I've really needed
Speaker 1: to comment on culture. So please wrap up. Okay, they're
Speaker 1: playing me off. There really are do Do Do? Do?
Speaker 1: Do Do? Wow? That Oscar song is so iconic, isn't
Speaker 1: it that like do do do? We all know it? Um? Wait? Okay,
Speaker 1: So Brittany Murphy would have been at LEAs nominated for
Speaker 1: an Oscar at this point, and I really think she
Speaker 1: would be Prestige TV actress in the vein of Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Moss because I believe that she missed her moment to
Speaker 1: really show us what she could do when there was
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot more opportunity for her, because every
Speaker 1: single time she was in anything, she scored. Weren't you
Speaker 1: there when we just watched Dropped Ed? Gorgeous? Yeah, incredible
Speaker 1: in that and no one thinks of her when they
Speaker 1: think of that movie. No nobody thinks of Amy Adams either. Listen,
Speaker 1: we talked about kirst Ally. We talked, We talked, we
Speaker 1: really do. But what we do not talk about with
Speaker 1: Kirstily is Kirsti Ally turning to Amy Adams on the
Speaker 1: set of Dropped Gorgeous and saying, you need to move
Speaker 1: to l A. And here's the alley. Is the reason
Speaker 1: we have a rival, is the reason we have June
Speaker 1: Bug is the reason we have the worst parts of Julia,
Speaker 1: and Julia is the reason. She is the reason. And
Speaker 1: so yes, you're stale is a kook. Yes, she is
Speaker 1: a scientologist, but I think karmically she balanced things out
Speaker 1: by giving us say name. She also unfortunately turns that
Speaker 1: fucking movie all the way out. She's so good and
Speaker 1: she's also so good. And it takes two. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I fucking love it takes two. Steve Gudenberg and her
Speaker 1: hot also Steve Gutenberg hot? What the fuck is he? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: literally yes, look it up. He feels like the the
Speaker 1: only like the kind of hot that is only hot
Speaker 1: in the nineties though, like that men don't like don't
Speaker 1: men don't look like that, you know what. He's that
Speaker 1: type of like young Jerry Seinfeld attractive where you're like, sure,
Speaker 1: you bang these women, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you're attracted to him despite yourself, sort of because you've
Speaker 1: been conditioned to a big conversation in coming. You know
Speaker 1: who's sort of an analog to that. I would say,
Speaker 1: who's sort of the Steve Gudenberg of today, John Reynolds.
Speaker 1: John Reynolds has the very same vibe where I would
Speaker 1: I would suck the ship out of John Reynolds. But
Speaker 1: he does have that same Gutenberg Young Steinfeld, young Billy Crystal.
Speaker 1: I never got Billy Crystal until I saw when Harry
Speaker 1: met Sally. Oh yeah, you know what's funny. He's way
Speaker 1: out of his league in that movie, but you still
Speaker 1: get it, You really do still get it. And like
Speaker 1: you ever seen City Slickers. No, he is that kind
Speaker 1: of like like Blue Gene New York, like ker mudgeon vibe.
Speaker 1: Hair has been receiving probably since he was eight years old,
Speaker 1: that vibe where you're still like, I'd still fuck you.
Speaker 1: And I also think this isn't annoying to say. But
Speaker 1: like in the nineties, like whenever Jerry Seinfeld had those
Speaker 1: like hot girl friend, whenever he was dating like Terry Hatcher,
Speaker 1: like peak Terry Hatcher in the nineties, I didn't question
Speaker 1: a thing. I was like, yeah, for sure, they're fucking him. Um,
Speaker 1: but okay, wait, this is what I wanted to say.
Speaker 1: So speaking of Hailey Steinfeld and Black Widow so so
Speaker 1: so this is relatively to you and your interests. You
Speaker 1: know that Hailey Steinfeldt is m c U because you
Speaker 1: know she's the new Hawkeye. I did know that. Um,
Speaker 1: I think that's amazing is that Kate Bishop? Is that
Speaker 1: she k Bishop? And did you know that one of
Speaker 1: these sort of fun crossovers that's happening in the m
Speaker 1: c U series is Florence Pu is in the Hawkeye series.
Speaker 1: So this sort of lends to my point earlier about
Speaker 1: the Black Widow and Hawkeye connection of it all because
Speaker 1: you know that Florence p was gonna show up sort
Speaker 1: of I guess the long lost sister of Scarlett Natasha Romanov,
Speaker 1: And you know that Jeremy Renner is going to give
Speaker 1: his classic like steely eyed glances over at her, like
Speaker 1: why is this girl reminded me of someone from my past?
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope, I hope we don't get that.
Speaker 1: I hope that they make a better choice. But I
Speaker 1: can absolutely see that happening. And I think speaking of
Speaker 1: Hailey Steinfeld is speaking of Haley Steinfeld dot dot dot
Speaker 1: that's the front runner for title of app and that
Speaker 1: is how I know that you truly were the person
Speaker 1: to come here because you know, to offer the title
Speaker 1: of app speaking of Hailey Steinfeld dot dot dot parentheses
Speaker 1: with special with ultra special guest Jill Kim Booster. Can
Speaker 1: I congratulate you, by the way, I'm so excited for you.
Speaker 1: The Fire Island movie is going to be incredible. And
Speaker 1: can I say uh with a gentleman I'm singing. I
Speaker 1: recently just just watched Bride and Prejudice, Yes, and I
Speaker 1: loved it, and I almost I also ordered I ordered
Speaker 1: a special fresh copy of Pride and Prejudice, um, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch the Kira version as well, and
Speaker 1: I'm like watching I love and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: watch it again. And I'm just like really soaking into
Speaker 1: the story again. God damn, what a fucking classic that is,
Speaker 1: and how how well it works, um to map it
Speaker 1: onto the situation that you're mapping it on. I want
Speaker 1: to know, just like not to like really seriously interview,
Speaker 1: but like what made you think of that? Um? Honestly,
Speaker 1: it happened in like when we were there for the
Speaker 1: first time. It was the book that I brought to
Speaker 1: read and I was literally just in the midst of
Speaker 1: reading Pride and Prejudice, looking around at this island and
Speaker 1: looking at the ways in which, like our culture is
Speaker 1: sort of compressed in a very like specific way on
Speaker 1: the island. There are no straight people. There are no
Speaker 1: straight people except the teenage girls that work in the canteen,
Speaker 1: and which are my favorite girls. I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: see them next week. Oh my amandous. They need they
Speaker 1: need a Bravo reality show. Like I know it's insane
Speaker 1: to say, like Fire Island needs a show, but it
Speaker 1: needs to be about the straight girls who work in
Speaker 1: the pantry. But those of you who know, you know,
Speaker 1: those girls have seen it all. They've seen it all.
Speaker 1: You know. Those were all my girlfriends in high school,
Speaker 1: all my girlfriends in high school. I'm talking about Alison,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Alex, I'm talking about both Emily's. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Sam, I'm talking about Kate, I'm talking about Brittany,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Lorienne. All of them worked in the
Speaker 1: Ocean Bay Park market and they were those girls in
Speaker 1: the loose buns, their hair slopped up in a loose
Speaker 1: bun with an oversized sweatshirt. Pri Arianna wearing Nike slides
Speaker 1: looking looking like looking like green eminem every smilarly literally
Speaker 1: and also like sort of a little bit of makeup
Speaker 1: from the night before. And uh lacrosse shorts sleepy all
Speaker 1: day from six am when they get there to five
Speaker 1: pm when they leave, or switch over with another girl
Speaker 1: named the same name as them. I'm telling you so, yes,
Speaker 1: you are right, they are the only straight women there.
Speaker 1: Continue your point anyways, um no, And it just like
Speaker 1: listen Jane Austen, like if you read it again. I
Speaker 1: know many of us were forced to read Jane in
Speaker 1: high school and it didn't and many people didn't connect.
Speaker 1: I didn't connect with it until I was in college.
Speaker 1: But like her social observations are so prescient, and especially
Speaker 1: the ways in which we conceal the harm that we
Speaker 1: do to each other under social niceties. And it is
Speaker 1: so gay. It's just so gay, like she create, she
Speaker 1: clocked what shade is before we had a word for it.
Speaker 1: Bangley was the original, you know, lay laomi, that's a
Speaker 1: rule of culture nine. The original. God, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I just I literally I was like the ways
Speaker 1: in which class sort of map onto the way in
Speaker 1: which class not like exists in the gay community, not
Speaker 1: just class as we know it, like financially, but I
Speaker 1: think like looking a certain way is its own sort
Speaker 1: of class. Race is its own sort of class in
Speaker 1: our community, and like it. Just you know, it started
Speaker 1: as a joke. It literally started as a joke. I
Speaker 1: would joke about it constantly. And I'm going to write
Speaker 1: a movie about Fire Island that takes place on on
Speaker 1: that is a Pride and Prejudice remake, and I never
Speaker 1: meant to do it. And then a while ago I
Speaker 1: wrote an essay about Jane Austen and Pride and Fire
Speaker 1: Island and my agent and literally the only good thing
Speaker 1: my agent has ever done. David, I hope you're listening
Speaker 1: to this, and I hope you know that. I think
Speaker 1: you've done nothing from my career except for this one thing.
Speaker 1: But he read that essay and he was like, you
Speaker 1: should make this a show, and I was like, that
Speaker 1: is the dumbest thing you've ever said. Never talked to
Speaker 1: me again, nobody will ever read that. And then on
Speaker 1: a plane right to Japan, I wrote a sex script
Speaker 1: um for what was originally gonna be a show, and
Speaker 1: then eventually, um, you know, things happened and I sold
Speaker 1: it to Quimby, and the rest is history and the
Speaker 1: rest remember oh do I ever? Yeah? You know what's funny.
Speaker 1: It's like when when Quimby launched, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy were one of the first, and now I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: Joel really dodged a bullet by not being one of
Speaker 1: the first to launch with Quimby, because honestly, had you
Speaker 1: had this come out with Quimby, it doesn't get made
Speaker 1: at Hulu. It is incredible. I mean, yes, the pandemic
Speaker 1: did take my father, but did it give me a
Speaker 1: movie at Hulu? It did, absolutely, so it all really
Speaker 1: evens out me in um. Also, I recently went home
Speaker 1: with a guy and he turned on his TV and
Speaker 1: and the Roku thing came up, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you have Roku and I got I
Speaker 1: was actually I was not as excited as that about it.
Speaker 1: I was sort of like, oh my god, you have Roku. Um.
Speaker 1: But in the back of my head, I was like,
Speaker 1: we could watch the original one. You know what, you
Speaker 1: could have watched Game Show all episodes of season one
Speaker 1: streaming on Roku. But I don't think it's necessarily and
Speaker 1: singled out, yeah, I have to say like, um, I
Speaker 1: was one of those people that in high school, I
Speaker 1: believe in my ap compt isn't very much a genius.
Speaker 1: I was get this. I did win in my grade.
Speaker 1: I won the English Award, like I was the best
Speaker 1: English student in my class. Says the English department. Okay,
Speaker 1: says the English Department, not me. Don't get mad at me,
Speaker 1: don't make don't write me letters. Write the write the
Speaker 1: ap lit department or the English department, high school letters.
Speaker 1: Okay from from you know however, many years ago, as
Speaker 1: I shrivel and die, Um, but I did read Pride
Speaker 1: and Prejudice, and um, I kind of it kind of
Speaker 1: missed me. And then in reading your piece about it
Speaker 1: that you wrote, um, and then in in reading the script, honestly,
Speaker 1: I really like I saw it out again and I
Speaker 1: watched the movie again, which I of course watched when
Speaker 1: it came out, and enjoyed like I would watch any
Speaker 1: movie that has Oscar Buzz or any movie with Cure
Speaker 1: and Nightley. I do love her, um, but I've really
Speaker 1: found myself enjoying it more and more and more, and
Speaker 1: like your script too. I I've just enjoyed so much
Speaker 1: because what I love about it and what I'm so
Speaker 1: excited for everyone to see is that it's extremely truthful
Speaker 1: to the experience of being on Fire Island and the
Speaker 1: experience of being I think UM a gay man and
Speaker 1: a group of gay friends, and especially UM a gay
Speaker 1: man and a group of gay friends that's been a
Speaker 1: group of friends for a long time, and there's been
Speaker 1: changes to that. It does feel like that mapping of
Speaker 1: the forgive me but chosen family onto the actual family
Speaker 1: really tracks, and UM, it's just gonna be really fun.
Speaker 1: And I don't I just don't know that we've had
Speaker 1: like a definitive and not that it has to be
Speaker 1: definitive at all. It doesn't and it's not trying to be.
Speaker 1: But I think it will be really fun to have
Speaker 1: this movie take place here because there's history in the
Speaker 1: story that we're telling, and there's a so history and
Speaker 1: the place we're telling it. So I think it's really exciting, Jollie,
Speaker 1: And I'm really happy for you. I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. It is the it's the biggest thing
Speaker 1: to ever happen in my life. And I'm nervous and
Speaker 1: i'm scared, but I'm mostly I'm mostly really excited, you know,
Speaker 1: like I, this is the year of it is the year,
Speaker 1: and I refuse to accept otherwise I will get everything
Speaker 1: I want. I will get every single fucking thing that
Speaker 1: I want. Yeah, baby, you deserve it. Um. Well then
Speaker 1: right after that, you're gonna go, what shoot your fucking
Speaker 1: show loot with mya Rootolf? What is yes? Three three
Speaker 1: days after we wrap, I start shooting that show. Um,
Speaker 1: which is not Apple. It is on Apple. It is
Speaker 1: Stars my Rootolf, it's Alan Yang. Um. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm speaking out of turn when I say that they
Speaker 1: wrote the part for me, which is really awesome. Um.
Speaker 1: There's lines about being gay and Asian and from Illinois
Speaker 1: in the side. So I read it and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: if I don't book the then there's a problem. We
Speaker 1: have a bigger problem than you find out. Then everyone
Speaker 1: gets really mad. Um. But yeah it was it was
Speaker 1: a lot, and um, I really needed it because I
Speaker 1: was really coming down from a lot of molly when
Speaker 1: I found out, Um, I was coming down. Here's the
Speaker 1: fun peek behind the curtain. When I shot my episode
Speaker 1: of I Carli completely in a colmdown just actually I
Speaker 1: believe what what what was that? After? What what if
Speaker 1: that was that after because I think that was after
Speaker 1: that was after my friend Chris's thirtieth birthday in San Diego,
Speaker 1: which is the Florida of the US justice. It is incredible.
Speaker 1: We tried to play volleyball. We tried to play volleyball
Speaker 1: on the beach, and the straight reaction to a bunch
Speaker 1: of game men playing volleyball was such that it was
Speaker 1: like it was either people making fun of us or
Speaker 1: people being like, oh my god, yes, yes, go for it, Yes,
Speaker 1: it is okay. What you're doing is okay. So it's okay,
Speaker 1: we're playing fucking volleyball. You freeze just to drive home
Speaker 1: like that that San Diego is the Florida of the
Speaker 1: West coast, like are there jet skis there? Then then
Speaker 1: it might specifically be the Tampa of the West Coast,
Speaker 1: which higher praise I cannot give. Yeah, and the West
Speaker 1: Coast needs a Tampa, that's for sure. Every coast needs
Speaker 1: a Tampa, Every coast needs a Tampa. Well you know,
Speaker 1: actually famously, the Gulf Coast has a Tampa, and then
Speaker 1: I guess the East Coast really doesn't. What's the Tampa
Speaker 1: of the East Coast might be? By the time I
Speaker 1: get there anyway. You can make anything, Tampa, I truly can't.
Speaker 1: I've never been on a jet ski. What okay? Um,
Speaker 1: speaking of jet skis, have you been watching Loki? Okay?
Speaker 1: And this is this is this I wanted to touch
Speaker 1: on with you have not, but not only but that's
Speaker 1: only because I've sort of been traveling a lot, and
Speaker 1: like I don't have my I don't have Disney Plus
Speaker 1: on my computer. I guess I could obviously easily log
Speaker 1: onto it, but I kind of want to watch it,
Speaker 1: like in the comfort of my own home on my
Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus. Can you sort of explain to me
Speaker 1: in the readers about Loki being bisexual and how does
Speaker 1: this connect with the themes of the piece. I don't
Speaker 1: think why he by it is not connected. I think
Speaker 1: it just tracks with the character. He's, um, you know,
Speaker 1: a trickster god and as we know bisexuals trick people
Speaker 1: they are. It's actually should I make that real culture?
Speaker 1: But he's really Coach number fifty four bisexual sexual chat
Speaker 1: trickster um Ja. That's in the rule, Megan, Megan McCain,
Speaker 1: if you're out there, that's in the rule. Oh, I
Speaker 1: see I see her off screen. She's shaking her head.
Speaker 1: Now she threw her she threw her pen on the ground.
Speaker 1: It is not a pet, it's a quill anyway. Um, anyways, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have anything. It doesn't have anything to do
Speaker 1: with the plot. He mentions like fucking guys and girls
Speaker 1: and and it's that's that's it. That's that's literally it
Speaker 1: alright interesting and so I think it's one of I
Speaker 1: think texturally it feels much different than anything else in
Speaker 1: the m c U because you know, they have the
Speaker 1: house style. I think that like, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of fun um characters in it. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun performances in it. I think Owen Wilson
Speaker 1: is a lot of fun in it. I think there's
Speaker 1: there's an iconic character named Miss Minutes in it that
Speaker 1: is voice Miss Minutes, Babe, and she is voiced by
Speaker 1: one terror Strong. Like you've gotta get into it, Google,
Speaker 1: What how do you solve a problem? Like? I think easily.
Speaker 1: I think you just keep giving her parts because something
Speaker 1: is gonna work. And I actually think she was incredible
Speaker 1: on the Morning Show. And also, readers, if you haven't
Speaker 1: watched Beyond the Lights, you gotta watch Beyond the Lights
Speaker 1: incredible and beyond. If I love Gina Princepice, but I'll
Speaker 1: have everything she does very fun in Miss Sloan. If
Speaker 1: you've seen that, we have not found we have not
Speaker 1: found a home for Google. And I don't think it's
Speaker 1: low key. I don't think it's low key. We still
Speaker 1: need to try, like we are. She is the glass
Speaker 1: Slipper and we are traveling around the television landscape trying
Speaker 1: to find the correct genre and roll for Google. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe Google is just a character actress that we see
Speaker 1: plugged in places. I mean, there could be worse things.
Speaker 1: Laura Dern was that for many years and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden she became Laura Dern. Maybe we're just
Speaker 1: far away from the Google song's Yeah, I think we'll
Speaker 1: get there. I mean, she looks, she looks incredible, she
Speaker 1: looks like she has an aged today. She's she's a beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful woman, shocking. So what does she do in the show.
Speaker 1: She's sort of a boss. She's like the boss of
Speaker 1: Owen Wilson. She is, yeah, at a middle manager. She's
Speaker 1: a middle manager, which again feels like sort of a
Speaker 1: way so that she does get some action. It's fun
Speaker 1: to see Google in action. It's fun to see her,
Speaker 1: see her wheeled a sword. You know, you love to
Speaker 1: see Google wheel a sword. Sure, hate to pivot this
Speaker 1: harshly away from Google and maybe the fact that I
Speaker 1: am is telling. But um, would we fuck Owen Wilson
Speaker 1: in it? Absolutely? Yeah? I would. I would almost always
Speaker 1: fuck him. Yeah, depressed or not depressed, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I would. I would fuck Owen Wilson, And I thought
Speaker 1: that way. You know. A sexually formative memory for me
Speaker 1: is the bathtub scene in Shanghai. NW. I literally knew
Speaker 1: you were going to say that, because that was probably
Speaker 1: we You were what, uh fourteen? Um, if you were fourteen,
Speaker 1: I was slightly older, But I think I was younger
Speaker 1: than that because I had I had never seen myself
Speaker 1: reflected on screen an Asian, a hot Asian man in
Speaker 1: a bathtub naked with a hot white man, you know,
Speaker 1: and that is my experience, that is my lived experience,
Speaker 1: and it was so beautiful for me to see that
Speaker 1: reflected back to me. Honest. Do you think that Jackie
Speaker 1: Chan got um hate d M s um from being
Speaker 1: photographed filmed, even in a bathtub with a white man.
Speaker 1: I think he probably did. I think he probably did.
Speaker 1: I think he probably invented Instagram. People invented Instagram so
Speaker 1: that just so that they could d m Jackie Chan
Speaker 1: about that scene and Chann m hm m hm hm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Where is Jackie now? You know what? I don't know,
Speaker 1: too old for all of it. He he was in
Speaker 1: a movie recently called Like the Foreigner, which is unfortunate. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is not. It's it's sort of not where you
Speaker 1: want to see Jackie Chan now, but um he is.
Speaker 1: He's still kicking it. He's still He's still around, still
Speaker 1: kicking it. Yeah, like he kicks a cinder block right
Speaker 1: in half, and so many of his films. Anyway, what
Speaker 1: else are you watching? Can I tell you? This is
Speaker 1: one reason why I'm really upset that Bowen couldn't log
Speaker 1: on is because he has been getting really into in Treatment.
Speaker 1: And have you watched In Treatment? I saw this on
Speaker 1: Bowen Story and I thought to myself, I should watch
Speaker 1: in Treatment, but instead I turned on CBS is Evil instead.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I never want to watch something on CBS,
Speaker 1: even The Good Wife. The Good Wife, I would watch
Speaker 1: Slash get into and I would even do that with
Speaker 1: the Good Fight. But I just feel like it is
Speaker 1: too many episodes of too long. We have tied the
Speaker 1: point now where you tell somebody that is seven seasons
Speaker 1: and twenty two episodes per season, and it's untenable. It's
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? Unless there's another pandemic,
Speaker 1: unless there's an they shutdown there. No one's doing that,
Speaker 1: No one but the Baby. I can really, I can
Speaker 1: barely get through uh limited series ten episodes like and
Speaker 1: and that's long to me now now it's like I
Speaker 1: need things to be six or seven and in a
Speaker 1: hot forty six minutes like ms Mayer. But nowadays it's
Speaker 1: like and I could never I think The Good Wife
Speaker 1: is the last prestige show that was like on network
Speaker 1: twenty four episodes of a full length our show that
Speaker 1: people are like, you could still watch this and enjoy.
Speaker 1: No one's watching loss now. No, people are not doing it.
Speaker 1: No you do. You need to have Pat Regan on
Speaker 1: to talk about manifest But you know what, you know
Speaker 1: what really secured me of my attention span recently that
Speaker 1: I uh that I watched um is Stephen Universe. Have
Speaker 1: you seen what is that Stephen Universe is? It's a
Speaker 1: cartoon by Rebecca Sugar it is. The episodes are eleven
Speaker 1: minutes long, if that okay, And it starts out, it's
Speaker 1: seems very simple, it seems like very trophy. It is
Speaker 1: like you you watch the first episodes and they sort
Speaker 1: of drop you in to the middle of the story.
Speaker 1: It's about a little boy who is a gem and
Speaker 1: then his three like aunt figures who are also gems,
Speaker 1: and they protect the world. And it's like if you've
Speaker 1: seen sailor Moon, you you get the vibe almost immediately,
Speaker 1: and it just is so brilliant. How over the course
Speaker 1: of five seasons they layer in little bit by bit
Speaker 1: and you really you think you're watching a standalone show.
Speaker 1: You think you're watching sort of like an adventure time
Speaker 1: like nonsense, Like every episode is self contained and it's
Speaker 1: and it restarts and the steaks we started each episode.
Speaker 1: But you've slowly realized that this show is like building
Speaker 1: upon its own more until a point at which by
Speaker 1: the end of it it is one of It is
Speaker 1: one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen. And
Speaker 1: there's a movie, and there's music. The voice talent on
Speaker 1: the show, Patty Lapone, Nicki Minaj Amy Man, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: A cell is one of the main voice actors, and
Speaker 1: the show is queer as hell. There are so many
Speaker 1: trans allegories in it. There are literal lesbians on the show.
Speaker 1: Step and how do we watch the It's on HBO Max. Okay,
Speaker 1: I love that, know, And now you're talking my my
Speaker 1: language speaking go well, I was gonna say, speaking HB Max.
Speaker 1: I got to watch Space Jam two early what because
Speaker 1: to save our son, Joel, I screamed, you need to
Speaker 1: win this game and get our son back. I was,
Speaker 1: By the way, that is so Nicol Martin Green from
Speaker 1: Star Trek Discovery committing all the way. She's from the
Speaker 1: Sarah Paulson's school of bad script and full commitments. She
Speaker 1: serves every inch of this playing Lebron's life. So Space
Speaker 1: Gym two is pretty much exactly Space Gym one, but
Speaker 1: you drag and drop like all new references for the
Speaker 1: old one. So it's like the it's it's it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's just so funny because it's literally the same.
Speaker 1: But it was fun I guess, I mean. And the
Speaker 1: reason I watched it is because, and this is my
Speaker 1: announcement to the readers, um, I'm gonna be hosting HBO
Speaker 1: Max movie Club, which is a podcast presented by My
Speaker 1: Heart and HBO Max, which is going to feature me
Speaker 1: and some special guests. Perhaps we're even looking at one
Speaker 1: um talking about movies that are on the HBO Max
Speaker 1: platform that are coming out that are classic movies on
Speaker 1: the platform. I'm actually doing. Um do you like Keanu Reeves? Okay,
Speaker 1: so maybe you'll come on from my Kiano episode that
Speaker 1: I'm doing. Um. So they want to do an all
Speaker 1: key a new episode, so it's gonna be like Point
Speaker 1: Break Matrix speaking you know, all the girls that are
Speaker 1: on the platform. So maybe you'll come on from my
Speaker 1: Kiano episode because I was gonna have Joe Kim on
Speaker 1: to talk about the movie Freaky because one thing I
Speaker 1: said to these people. So basically, it's like I'm watching
Speaker 1: all these movies and then hosting with comedian friends of
Speaker 1: mine or like you know, people from that that actually
Speaker 1: made the movie. It's gonna be really really cool actors, directors, whatever,
Speaker 1: and it starts very soon. Um. But I told them
Speaker 1: when they asked me to do the gig, I was like,
Speaker 1: just so you know, it's like a thing. I cannot
Speaker 1: watch scary movies, like oftentimes even suspense thrillers like I
Speaker 1: can't really get through because it makes me too anxious.
Speaker 1: And I told them this and then they were like,
Speaker 1: it's fine, nothing on the list is too scary, and
Speaker 1: then they go, okay, so week two is going to
Speaker 1: be freaky. Flashback to when you and I were at
Speaker 1: Jared's house and you guys, I think, tricked me, like
Speaker 1: like by some bisexuals. It was always always, always in
Speaker 1: the plan, no specifically to watch well all all I
Speaker 1: know is it was on for I think about forty
Speaker 1: five seconds before I left the house. I was like,
Speaker 1: I cannot do this. You actually you were there for
Speaker 1: longer than forty five minutes. You got up and you
Speaker 1: second and behind the couch, behind the couch a distance away,
Speaker 1: several yards away, around a corner, and you watched the
Speaker 1: opening uh scenes of Freaky from around a corner. I
Speaker 1: got the funk out of there, despite the fact that
Speaker 1: both of them told me if you leave, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be really mad, and I was like, well, I'm it's
Speaker 1: it's worth it to get into fight with my friends
Speaker 1: then to sit here because I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is readers, I really and it's not like it's hasn't
Speaker 1: always been like this. I think just I just get
Speaker 1: really anxious watching scary movies. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: And you're talking to someone who loves haunted houses. I've
Speaker 1: been skydiving, like I do quote unquote scary stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm out here in the world, uh you know, and
Speaker 1: I just but I told him. I was like, I
Speaker 1: really can't dose scary movies. And then they were like, okay,
Speaker 1: well the second week is freaky, and I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I know exactly who to get on someone that's seen
Speaker 1: the movie and watched what happened to me when I
Speaker 1: tried to watch it. But now that episode is postponed
Speaker 1: and they want to do a Kiano episode instead. So
Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear that you love Kiano because you'll
Speaker 1: come up and we can watch much of You About Nothing,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite Kiana Reeves and it's complicated. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: little known Kanu vehicle. That would be really funny is
Speaker 1: if we did a Kiana Reeves episode, but we didn't
Speaker 1: do the Matrix or John Wick or any of his
Speaker 1: big nas. We did much Ado About Nothing, and it's
Speaker 1: and it's complicated. And this is like earlier in his
Speaker 1: career when he could like sort of and I say,
Speaker 1: this would love barely act and it wasn't like part
Speaker 1: of it yet. It was like there was like Kiano
Speaker 1: in the beginning, like they were giving him rolls and
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, he'll like learn to act, and
Speaker 1: then he never did and everyone was like, but now
Speaker 1: it's part of it. But in the beginning of his career,
Speaker 1: I remember he was in Dracula and he says the
Speaker 1: word Europe like you rope, and it's iconic. I watched
Speaker 1: it in high school and I loved it and I
Speaker 1: love Kiana. So but anyway, it's great that I get
Speaker 1: to tell you all that I'm doing this podcast, which
Speaker 1: I hope you listened to as well. It'll be really fun.
Speaker 1: Of course, I am qualified to do this as someone
Speaker 1: who was once told by Bowen Yang that I maybe
Speaker 1: should think about getting a letterboxed. So this is me
Speaker 1: now hosting um letter box. What is letterbox? I think
Speaker 1: it's just for for facts to sort of jump on
Speaker 1: and review ship. Okay, you know the reason I was
Speaker 1: talking about this was because the first episode is Space
Speaker 1: Gym two. That's why I was talking about it. So
Speaker 1: that's how I got to see Space Gem two early.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you found it. I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: was sick. Back to this. So at this point in
Speaker 1: the episode, about an hour and sixteen minutes is and
Speaker 1: is when I say Bowen, shouldn't we do? I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, and he usually says yes. So now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say to you ju Kim, should we do?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Um, yes, I guess. I'm
Speaker 1: still I'm still unclear about what mine is gonna be
Speaker 1: again melatonin. I was asked to do this at the
Speaker 1: last minute. I'm in a cold, I'm in a weird headspace.
Speaker 1: Everybody has to just chill out. Everybody just chill out.
Speaker 1: I don't think that you're going to get negative feedback
Speaker 1: for I don't think you possibly could. I mean, think
Speaker 1: about what a higher on you're doing. The movie, you
Speaker 1: got this show with Maya, you got um fucking you're
Speaker 1: You're You've survived the gay cold, You've got San Francisco
Speaker 1: friends who are cooler than the ones you had before.
Speaker 1: I mean, so much is going well for you, and
Speaker 1: you're also going to get to hear my I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, which, of course is going to happen first,
Speaker 1: as it always does. You know, I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Yes is one minute sort of rampt really fevered manner
Speaker 1: of speech where um Bowen and I and a guest
Speaker 1: and tonight Joel and I go off in quotes as
Speaker 1: the kids say, on an item of culture that we
Speaker 1: don't like very much. And today I was talking to
Speaker 1: some gaye in a group threat and I realized that, Um,
Speaker 1: there's something in the culture that's been happening since the
Speaker 1: beginning of live performance that I don't think, so honey,
Speaker 1: and so I'm thrilled to present it to you today. Okay,
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers, I don't think so honey. Time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, standing ovations which sit the
Speaker 1: funk down. I cannot see over your fucking head, which
Speaker 1: is now so high. You need to get in your seat.
Speaker 1: That's why it's there. What is that good that you
Speaker 1: need to stand for? I don't think so honey, standing
Speaker 1: up and like clapping because guess what not everyone around
Speaker 1: you wants to do that, and now you forced them
Speaker 1: to because it's custom. I don't think so honey. At
Speaker 1: the con Film Festival, whenever something is half good. It
Speaker 1: gets a ten minute standing ovation. That movie a Net
Speaker 1: with Driver and Marion Cotillard. It was reported that it
Speaker 1: got over six minutes standing ovation. Bitch Pierre's need to
Speaker 1: sit the funk down? Okay, if I wanted to see
Speaker 1: a bunch of racist clap I would go to a
Speaker 1: fucking Toby Keith concert, which is a joke. I said
Speaker 1: and said group Chat today, which got zero likes, which
Speaker 1: is a bummer because I actually thought it was pretty
Speaker 1: good and so were repeating it here on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, standing ovations. I want to sit.
Speaker 1: My thighs hurt, my calves hurt, and most importantly, my
Speaker 1: feet hurt. So I don't want to stand on him.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. And that's one. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I feel great about that. And
Speaker 1: you know, I love I love when it's about culture,
Speaker 1: you know, I love when it's of the culture. You know,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of notes when it's not. I
Speaker 1: do you know. I'm a purist. I think it should
Speaker 1: be something related to film television movies, dance. Dance is
Speaker 1: a big one film television movies, dance. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, what if someone slays a dance,
Speaker 1: you can stand ovation for them. But that's really all.
Speaker 1: But I think my I don't think so honey is
Speaker 1: not going to be directly related to you're gonna go
Speaker 1: against your own rules. Well, you know I famously did
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. When you far in, a
Speaker 1: little bit of calm comes out. Yeah, I remember you
Speaker 1: did that in front of my parents. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: was one of my most iconic I don't think so honeys,
Speaker 1: and it did not pass me through to the Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the iconic Readers. Some of you who have
Speaker 1: joined the process of listening to this podcast late and
Speaker 1: might not know that Bowen and I once didn't I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey competition at Clusterfest in San Francisco
Speaker 1: that was judged by Alaska thunder Fucking Drinks months soon,
Speaker 1: and I thought they really flopped in their decision making
Speaker 1: when they did not pass through ji Ki and Booster,
Speaker 1: who said I don't think so honey. When you fart in,
Speaker 1: a little bit of comm comes out in front of
Speaker 1: my father Richard, my mother Katrina, and my sister Chelsea
Speaker 1: Ryan who speaking of standing ovations, your dad stood up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that they all really liked it.
Speaker 1: I'm incredible with parents. Yeah, they love you. Um, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell them that you said hello, even though you didn't.
Speaker 1: I always say hello to Tina. Her name is Trina.
Speaker 1: I know I'm kidding. I'm kidding coaching Tina, coach and Trina. Um.
Speaker 1: Joel thinks I'm from New Jersey more than he thinks
Speaker 1: I'm from Long Island. I think he. I think he
Speaker 1: think right now. Yeah, okay, um, okay. So, on this
Speaker 1: episode of I Don't Think So Honey that has been
Speaker 1: so kindly saved by Joel Kim, Um, I am honored
Speaker 1: to sort of flip the phone in his direction, um
Speaker 1: and press start for what will be a thrilling I
Speaker 1: don't Think so Honey from one of the best um
Speaker 1: robbed on the Clusterfest competition of I Don't Think so Honey,
Speaker 1: and here he is everyone, It's Joel Kim Booster and
Speaker 1: his I don't Think so Honey starts now. I don't
Speaker 1: Think so Honey. Long text messages. I do not want
Speaker 1: to see a wall of text pop up on my phone.
Speaker 1: That little ding that my phone does it is for
Speaker 1: tiny little messages. Where are you b r B. What
Speaker 1: are you doing? You want to come over? That is it? Honey?
Speaker 1: If I have to scroll through my phone to read
Speaker 1: the entirety of the message, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Bring that wall down. Make it an email. Okay. If
Speaker 1: you have to put paragraph indentations in your text message,
Speaker 1: it is too long. Is I have to scroll? It's
Speaker 1: too long? If I even break it up, break it
Speaker 1: up into smaller chunks. Even it's less aggressive to see
Speaker 1: a smaller chunk of a text. These messages were not
Speaker 1: meant to be long, Okay. I am like the fucking Jericho.
Speaker 1: Bring the wall down, Mr Gorbachev. I do not want
Speaker 1: to see the wall. That is the quote, and I
Speaker 1: am leaving it there. Stop sending long test messages. Making
Speaker 1: a phone call, and that's one minute. I disagree making
Speaker 1: a phone call. I almost never want to get on
Speaker 1: the phone. I don't like talking on the phone. But
Speaker 1: but I will say this, you must love my texting
Speaker 1: because it's a lot of short things. Sometimes sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: just be like, I'll just like, if I were texting
Speaker 1: right now what I'm saying, it would be truly eight text.
Speaker 1: Like the word like will be its own text for me.
Speaker 1: So I'm really happy that that. I love seeing a
Speaker 1: cluster of of of white. I love or blue. I
Speaker 1: love seeing a cluster. I love seeing a cluster of white.
Speaker 1: Joel Kim Booster, fresh off of vacation, drag him. I
Speaker 1: love seeing a cluster of white. That um cluster of white.
Speaker 1: Has good news ever been communicated in a long text message? Edifying?
Speaker 1: Ever been? Ever been? It's usually someone who's like, I
Speaker 1: just want to be honest with you. Whenever I'm sending
Speaker 1: a a a something over text, it all has to
Speaker 1: be one because I don't want to give them the
Speaker 1: opportunity to interject. So I think that's why you see
Speaker 1: a long text message happened because I want all the
Speaker 1: information to come out before I get sort of derailed, sidetracked, misunderstood,
Speaker 1: um by someone interjecting mid text. But so I think
Speaker 1: that's why you sort of may receive like an email
Speaker 1: times them from people don't defend him? Is this maybe
Speaker 1: there is this what happened a couple of hours ago? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was professional. Oh well, I'm I'm trusting that you
Speaker 1: figured it out. Yeah, you have to meet people where
Speaker 1: they are period. Um. Well, listen, I've learned a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel we did exchange words on the culture. I
Speaker 1: have to say that this was edifying, educational. You taught
Speaker 1: people about um what did teach about before? Again, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not know its tone in bitch listen.
Speaker 1: I feel like you didn't make a catch phrase with me.
Speaker 1: I feel like you didn't use any of the catch phrases.
Speaker 1: We did so many rules of culture. I feel like
Speaker 1: you didn't say you understand. I feel like you didn't
Speaker 1: say you didn't create, You didn't create new vernacular with
Speaker 1: me like that, dragging me. I think that this episode
Speaker 1: is gonna be one of the best. I think people
Speaker 1: are going to be like wow, to know to know
Speaker 1: what what the girls are capable of when tragedy befalls,
Speaker 1: and let me just say what happened to Bowen? Bowen
Speaker 1: is often the Dominican Republic for reasons I don't think
Speaker 1: I can disclose, but but they're good reasons. They're very
Speaker 1: cool reasons, and good reasons. Um and wouldn't you believe it,
Speaker 1: the WiFi at his hotel in the d R not
Speaker 1: so great, and so he sort of hopped on and
Speaker 1: we sort of got very um uh sort of bow
Speaker 1: and Yang is frustrated energy with the with the WiFi,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I'm just gonna nip
Speaker 1: this in a bud right now and calls one that
Speaker 1: I know at least was available before because they asked
Speaker 1: me to hang out, and that was you, Joe Kim.
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that I did, because not only
Speaker 1: did I get to spend time with my sister, but
Speaker 1: I got to provide the readers with an excellent episode
Speaker 1: hosted by co mosted by one of our great minds.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you a story really quickly that the
Speaker 1: Dominican Republic just reminded me of because our friend, our
Speaker 1: friend Bowen isn't the Dominican republican the Jamaican Republic, and
Speaker 1: one of my friends, Sandra Bolick, is also in the
Speaker 1: Domaican Republic right now, and she somehow is now friends
Speaker 1: with one of our mutual friends who listened to Iowa
Speaker 1: Debury's podcast Iconic Class, where she listened to my episode
Speaker 1: of UM where I talk about Sandra Bolick and texted
Speaker 1: her a breakdown of what I said in the episode
Speaker 1: and whether or not it was right or wrong, all
Speaker 1: the questions I asked about Sandy and the one negative
Speaker 1: thing I said about Sandra Bullock. The one negative thing
Speaker 1: I said, I said, the only bad things Sandra Bullock
Speaker 1: has ever done is the millions millions. She should not
Speaker 1: do voice over work. And she said, in response to that,
Speaker 1: your friend Joel is absolutely correct. I fall apart in
Speaker 1: the booth, and I've never done it all apart in
Speaker 1: the booth. See that is so shocking at me. You
Speaker 1: think she'd come alive in the booth. No, she needs
Speaker 1: another person there. I see it for her, I see it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna say this about myself. I come
Speaker 1: alive in the booth. I do too. I love the booth.
Speaker 1: I love the booth. I think the booth is a
Speaker 1: great place. I think the booth is a place of
Speaker 1: great opportunity. So color me shocked to hear that Sandra
Speaker 1: Book doesn't like the booth. But maybe she just loves
Speaker 1: the camera just like it loves her. You know, she
Speaker 1: she loves the camera. I think she loves the tactile
Speaker 1: nature of acting. She's always touching something, you know. I
Speaker 1: think that's the problem. I think that's the problem. Yea.
Speaker 1: And what she's touching is our hearts, you know what?
Speaker 1: You know what she has that in common with you,
Speaker 1: and you were able to reach through the screen. Big
Speaker 1: things coming, Jolie, Big things can't wait. I've got a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. I I got a lot of big
Speaker 1: things waiting for me around New York City. Oh. I
Speaker 1: hope that's not um a euphemism. But I also I
Speaker 1: hope that's not it's not. I just I have a
Speaker 1: lot of belongings that I have left over the city
Speaker 1: in various storage units. Okay, well, Um, I'll suggest some
Speaker 1: people to help you pick those things up. Uh, Joel Kim,
Speaker 1: we end every episode with a song, and I want
Speaker 1: you to know that last week we sort of iconically
Speaker 1: ended with only Hope by Mandy Moore. I remember, um,
Speaker 1: and so I would sort of like to And that's
Speaker 1: the reason we did that is because we mentioned her
Speaker 1: during the episode, and so I'd like to sing the
Speaker 1: classic tune. Wait, wait, you have to name cousin of
Speaker 1: the week. Oh oh oh. The cousin of the week
Speaker 1: is really tight between three people. Okay, the cousin of
Speaker 1: the week is tight between Danielle stab for Um appearing
Speaker 1: in the Erica Jaye documentary and claiming to know information
Speaker 1: that we're not sure that she knows, and also resembling
Speaker 1: a Long Island sort of Tristate area girl that I
Speaker 1: know and and and this is the lost Coach, so
Speaker 1: I do get to sort of make the decision. And
Speaker 1: then the next nominee is um Google and bat Raw
Speaker 1: because we don't really know what to do with her,
Speaker 1: but we know we want her around at all times,
Speaker 1: and she is a welcome presence, not a sister, not
Speaker 1: a mother, no, something in the in the in between.
Speaker 1: And the third nominee for Cousin of the Week is
Speaker 1: of course Hailee Steinfeld because we always love speaking of her.
Speaker 1: She got accolades from her family and beyond for doing
Speaker 1: a goofy act and we're in a big hat and
Speaker 1: riding a horse, which you know if a cousin does
Speaker 1: that in the family, it's the most hilarious thing, especially
Speaker 1: when she's a cute girl voted for Trump and we
Speaker 1: end every episode with a song He'm gonna She's a
Speaker 1: cousin of the week. Yeah. Any time we do not
Speaker 1: have confirmation that Helly's find pubbled for Trump, it's a
Speaker 1: vicious rumor and that that will starting, that it will
Speaker 1: exist in Hollywood history. Goodbye, Goodbye,