1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why bone look 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness dang Dong 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: lost culture Risa's calling. What a treat for everyone listening 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: at home, but a tragedy for the first some out there. 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: For my bow and Yang dary hearts because this is 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: not Bow and Yang. This is my other sister who 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: I knew to call on when boone was having technical differenties. 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Introduce yourself. Hi, My name is Joaki and Booster. This 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: is really all. This is borderline problematic to be slotting 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: in for bo and Yang. Shut it is you know 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: the symmetry. People are gonna talk, people are gonna make 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: their jokes, and I don't think so, honey. People making 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: jokes like that, and you said you didn't know what 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: you're I don't think so, honey, was gonna be And 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: look at you already popping off. It can't be that. 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: How boring people Literally at d C, a fan came 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: up to me out of meat and green was like, 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: bo and Yang, I love your word, and I was like, 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: we are not still doing that in the year of 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: our Lord. Stop Asian hate. No, this is fully ridiculous. Also, 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: I will say this, I also hosted another podcast with you. 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: The Legally Blonde Recap podcast was truly a moment in 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: podcasting history that feels like ten thousand years ago. I 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: cannot believe we did that, and I cannot believe we 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: need you know, what we need to bring back for 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: this this episode of Lost Culture, says cousin of the one, 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 1: Cousin of the Week. We need to bring that Cousin 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: of the Week by the end of the episode. After 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: after I don't think so, honey, Before I don't think so, honey, 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: we will do Cousin of the Week. Cousin of the 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: Week was a segment on our jlan I's Legally Blonde 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: recap podcast. By the way, we should say it was 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: Legally Blonde the series, the musical of the series, and 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: we did a recap podcast for that for the next 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: to search for the Next Style Woods, which I believe 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: it came out thirteen years ago, and soso that feels 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: exactly right stylistically, thematically, aesthetically that from what we watched 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: two thousand eight feels dead on. In fact, I think 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: it is. And we did do a segment based on 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: the contestants that we called Cousin of the Week. Which 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: was something I created because I felt that at any 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: given time, any of those contestants were giving cousin energy, right, 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: and and it makes and it tracks absolutely, it makes 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: complete sense when you watch the show. And it will 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: make complete sense today when we name out of all 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: the topics that we talk about, we will be naming 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: a cousin of the week and you you won't ask it. 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: There are no follow up questions to be asked. No, 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: we're not available to answer any questions after we are 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: we are we are actually abjectively unavailable. Isn't this funny? 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: Because you actually texted me earlier you said what are 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: you doing tonight? Sort of intimating that you wanted to 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: hang out and the end because you're what are you 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: in Manhattan now? Right now? Yeah? I love the other Manhattan. 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: Actually like how much Number seven York the Silver Lake 56 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: of New York, truly Brooklyn, think about it is the 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: sixth borough of New York. Wow, you're just saying funk 58 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Long Island where I am right now? You are saying 59 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: that I I um, and this is actually it's a 60 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: beautiful stand And I want you to know I have 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: had a full day. Earlier, I went into town to 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: get Italian ices, which is something that people often do 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: on Long Island. And I went into town on main Street, 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: thank you, laden Hurst v. Main Street, and I went 65 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: to my favorite Italian ice place growing up. It's called 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Patsy's Italian Ices. And I never knew this, but on 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: the wall there is a plaque and I said, I 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: texted you about this before in the group chat. But 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: there's a plaque on the wall and it's a quote 70 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: from Pat Benatar being asked about her hometown and highlight. 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: It just says Patsy's serves the best Italian ices and 72 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: then it's it's it's a lack on the wall. So 73 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: this town, Lindenhurst, which is right right by where I 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: grew up and where my parents grew up, is so 75 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: proud that Pat Benatar just tossed off this Italian ice comment, 76 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: that they plaqued it and put it on the wall. 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: Highlight Okay, And it's across the church from Pat Benatar's church, 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: our Lady of Perpetual the church, it's across. It's across 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: the church. Now, I want to be I want to 80 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: be fully upfront. I want to be real and raw 81 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: with all of the readers. Tonight. That's what we do. 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: I took a melotone in about fifteen minutes before you called, 83 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: and so not only am I unprepared to talk about culture, 84 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: not only have I not really ingested very much culture 85 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, I've ingested a little melatonin. 86 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: So it might be feeling a little sleepy, sleepy by 87 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: the podcast. I often feel that people are at their 88 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 1: most raw and vulnerable when they've just when they've getten 89 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: a little sleepy. So I'm happy to get you in 90 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: this state. But it's actually good that you that we 91 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: strike a little bit of a somber tone, because have 92 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: you heard the bad news? What is the news? Megan 93 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: mcain is leaving the View. No, this is old. Well, 94 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: we do have to talk board member. She has resigned 95 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: from the View to sort of I guess commit herself 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: fully of being a board member of last Culture says, 97 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: but that's not the bad news with which I speak 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: of which I speak. The bad news is to Charlie 99 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: Samuel's Monique's bird has passed. No, And she said on 100 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: her Instagram that to Chola passed in a freak accident, 101 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: and then she didn't go any further I think that 102 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: probably it's too painful and potentially graphic and tragic, because 103 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: when I hear freak accident, I don't think you know 104 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: that the bird went peacefully? No, But like you know, 105 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: funck birds. I've never met a bird that I cared 106 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: if they lived or died, um, not even that bird. 107 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Freak accident with with birds, by the way, can mean anything. 108 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: A freak accident for a bird can mean it flew 109 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: out a window, which is not that freakish for a 110 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: bird to do. Well, you know that bird once ran away, 111 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: That bird has the history of flying the coope, so 112 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: to speak, and you know that wasn't going on. What's 113 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: going on in that household? What's going on in that household? 114 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: Who's having that conversation? Who's having that conversation? All I'm 115 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: saying is, look, and if anyone has ever had a 116 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: pet like run away, I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying, like, 117 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: what the hell is going on in that house? And 118 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: who's having that conversation? Because the bird tried to run 119 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: away and successfully or flew away as it were, and 120 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: then flew back and now there's a freak accident. Again, 121 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: not blaming her, And I know there's been a lot 122 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: of drama in her life over the past year, but 123 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: also shady of God to have this happened on the 124 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: week of the Potomac premiere that she's not in. Yeah, 125 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: really shady of God to have it happen during America's 126 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: birthday too, of all things, like to give it and 127 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: take it away, to remind to sort of it's just 128 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: too much, I think, to be Monique Samuels right now, 129 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: to sort of see the Potomac trailer, to sort of 130 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: see like Wendy really sort of take her place, as 131 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: it were, as like she's like narrating the trailer. You 132 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: know that Wendy is going to be bringing the drama 133 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: this season in a way. And to know that like 134 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: her bird died on the week of the premiere as 135 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: correctly or you are correct, but um, I just I 136 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: it's almost proper for me that you come in here 137 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: have sort of in having ingested melotonin because I never 138 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: thought this would be like a yeah, last coach and 139 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: I just sort of like flashed my hands like this 140 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: sort of say fanfare, this is a sedate, this is 141 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: a six D, this is a calm day of remembrance. 142 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: You guys are gonna get about a third of the 143 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: content at the exact same time stamp, and you're gonna 144 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: pay the same year old dollars. Okay, so don't you 145 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: fucking complain. Why did you tell me that you would 146 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: not have been in the mood to do this two 147 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: hours ago? Or is that an off camera comment? Um, 148 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: it's sort of an off camera comment. I it's it's 149 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: not important. It's not important now, Um. I was just 150 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: I've had a whirlwind day, um, full of text messages 151 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: and face times and um work related stuff, and it's been. 152 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: It's it is. It is. Honestly, it is for you, Matt, 153 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: as my friend to hear, which is why I wanted 154 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: to go to dinner with you tonight as a friend. 155 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: And it is not for you, Matt as a podcaster 156 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: to hear. Now how differently, honestly it could be. It 157 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: could happen on an Instagram live. Now that's the the 158 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: liminal space between podcasting and a private one on one dinner. 159 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Is I would reveal all on an Instagram live, but 160 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: not on this podcast where no, it's the the audience 161 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: is too big, Oh Jesus, alright, fine, it does live 162 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: on in perpetuity Wow, scary to think about things on 163 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: this podcast. Living in Perpetuity. I believe I said on 164 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: my very first appearance that St. Louis was the worst 165 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: city in America. So you did, and that was that 166 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: sort of calls back to your very first episode, which 167 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: is called All Across America, where we talked almost exclusively 168 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: about which American cities were bad and which ones are good, 169 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: something I really hope no one listens to, but now 170 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: that I said up there probably will. And I would 171 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: like to say I have since visited Phoenix, Arizona, and 172 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: I would like to say Phoenix, Arizona is far worse 173 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: than St. Louis. Really, yeah, Phoenix, I don't know what 174 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: it's offering nothing. I went to. I had a show 175 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: in in historic Downtown Phoenix. They kept saying historic. It's 176 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: the arts district, Historic Downtown Phoenix. It looks like a 177 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: fucking Chipotle everything out there, because you you forget, like, 178 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: at least St. Louis there's history there. It's an older city. 179 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: You forget that. A lot of stuff on the West 180 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: Brand thanking new. There is no history, there is no culture. 181 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: It's just teal. It's just a big teal Chipotle. Oh, 182 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: kiel not teal it's not great. Well, the thing too 183 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: is like you just said that St. Louis has a 184 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of history, and I'm racking my brain and this 185 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: is how you know I'm in my hometown of Long Island, 186 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: New York, because I'm like, what's the history on Long Island? 187 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: Mark McGuire, Hey, that's something, that's something. There was a 188 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: time when Mark McGuire, he was I mean, look at 189 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: me in my baseball hat. By the way, if you 190 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: look behind me, look at all those trophies. Oh my god, 191 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: so masks, so mask, it's incredible, how mask? I sort 192 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: of I'm on Long Island and I'm telling you it 193 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: comes out your your voice is deeper and deeper and darker. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, 194 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: that's part of having the gay cold. I have the 195 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: Gate cold. I got it. I caught the Gate cold 196 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: finally over the weekend. So you are a believer, then 197 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: in the Gate cold you would not sort of, Yes, 198 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: I believe that when gay people party for five weekends 199 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: in a row and get you know, no less than 200 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: four hours of sleep for five days of those in 201 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: a row, every single week, that you will develop a cold, 202 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: especially especially after a iconic period of um immune system 203 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: suppression and over hand sanitation. We were iconically separated this 204 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: pride and Fourth of July weekend, So I don't know 205 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: how yours was, and that's something I can hear about 206 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: my pride. Yeah, well, how was your damn pride? How 207 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: was your Fourth of July weekend? I don't I'm not 208 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: even going to see you on my Fire Island trip, 209 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: which feels stupid. My pride was sucking fantastic. I was 210 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: in San Francisco for all of it, and it was, 211 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: um it was a delight. And listen, I think people 212 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: sleep on San Francisco as a pride city. It is, 213 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, there were plenty of people 214 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: that were visiting there. But you know, from my entire life, 215 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: since I was a child, since I was three years old, 216 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: since I could stand up, I said, I do pride 217 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: in New York, That's where I do it. Okay, That's 218 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: where the Stonewall riots happened. That's where I need to be. Okay, 219 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: that's where all the good floats are, all the all 220 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the good big floats, big banks. Yeah, but there was actually, 221 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: um uh, there was a riot before stone Wall that 222 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: happened um. In San Francisco. Um, it was called the 223 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: Okay Professor. Yeah, God, you're an iconic professor. Yeah. So 224 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: in fact, I think it's Um, it was more appropriate 225 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: for me to spend my pride in San Francisco. I 226 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: had a lovely time. I saw a lot of my 227 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: friends there. Um, I UM, A lot of stuff happened. 228 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: It is difficult because a lot of my friends who 229 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: were there listened to this podcast. And so I don't 230 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to want to. I don't 231 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: want to docks. I don't want to docks them. Don't docks. 232 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: You don't dock to them or yourself. It's actually who 233 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: ess actually rule of culture number don't docks them or 234 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: your or yourself. Don't do it? True or false? You 235 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: like your San Francisco friends better than me? Yes? True? 236 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely true? Um, absolutely true. Is it because they're more fun? 237 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: Is it because they're less fun? Why do you like 238 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: them better than me? Because I know you do. Um, 239 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: I would say I like them better than you because 240 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: they're they're certainly kinder to me. Um, they're a kinder bunch. Um, 241 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: they're more diverse. Um, you know that than you? Uh 242 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: it does you know optically is a better look for me? 243 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: Of course? Yeah, that's important to consul. I literally, I 244 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: literally importivirta. Before San Francisco, I met a guy and 245 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: was making out with him, and like the third thing 246 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: I said to him was like, why did you have 247 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: to be white? God? That is because if you're because 248 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: why because if your photograph people will drag. Yeah, I 249 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: get dragged for it all the time. I get dragged 250 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: for it all the time. I got dragged for it 251 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: in San Francisco for hanging out with too many white 252 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: gays yea, and two of them in the picture that 253 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: I posted were Latino. So I don't even know. I 254 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: can't I can't win in this town. I can't win 255 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: in this town. I think you can win in this town. 256 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: You just have to. Well, first of all, that's is 257 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: that even that's something that you get a lot. Yeah, 258 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: check my damns, babe, check how am I going to 259 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: get in there? I knowsly is iron classed? Well, that 260 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: disappoints me. You feel like you can't be in a 261 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: picture with me because people are gonna say that guy's white. 262 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Fuck that I mentioned me upset? Well, I mean you 263 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: are Greek and that is something you know, someone did 264 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: look at me one time and say is he some 265 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: sort of not white? And then someone that they the 266 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: person they they asked that to turn to them and 267 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: said no, and they were, of course right, I am 268 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: exactly some sort of white. I am what we were 269 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: talking to, because I've been wearing a lot of ribbed 270 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: tanks formally known as wife beaters. Yeah, and thank you 271 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: for speaking that out loud. It's actually really culture number 272 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and seven there, formerly known as the wife beaters. 273 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for considence on that one as well. 274 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: But somebody was like, why do they call them wife beaters? 275 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: And I literally said, I think it's derogatory towards Greek people. 276 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: Know it's you know who it's derogatory towards. Is the 277 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: the sort of uh milk white asses, like your eminem types, 278 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you're detroitters. I think that 279 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: wife Peter pre dates that, though, Yeah, you know, it 280 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: is really interesting. I think we've talked about this like 281 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: the I was explaining that item of clothing to someone 282 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: and the word wife beater just kind of flew out 283 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: in my mouth, suggesting that it's been in my mouth 284 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: for a very long time, and that we just accepted 285 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: it a as what that item of clothing is called, 286 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: and be that it was an acceptable thing to sort 287 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: of conjure up that imagery when simply stating what someone 288 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: was wearing. And I remember I said it, and I 289 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: immediately was like, oh my god, can you believe that 290 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I just called it that? And that we all the 291 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: the collective we called it that. Yeah, it's one of 292 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: my favorite things to be self righteous about. Actually these days, 293 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite things to be selfrighteous about. Yeah, 294 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: that's well, it's actually interesting we just had eminem because 295 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: I love to be self righteous about eminem too. So 296 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: everything I think about you, every time I say I 297 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: stand something, every time I say I stand something, And 298 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: by the way, I have not changed the behavior. I'll 299 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: continue to say it, but I think it constant everything. Yeah, 300 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: I and I I was like leading the charge of 301 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: being like, we can't do this. It's an eminem thing. 302 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: And remember how painful he was. I love nothing more 303 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: than to get on my soapbox about eminem. One of 304 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: the coolest things about me, I'd say, is how upset 305 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: and angry and righteous I get. And then the next 306 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: day I turned around I stand, Ashley Simpson stand, how 307 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: did you know how to hurt me? How did you 308 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: know how to hurt me and expose me? I recently 309 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: discovered I was talking with a friend about this. Ashley 310 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: Simpson is the perfect pop cultural reference for almost all occasions, 311 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: For almost all occasions, I was literally telling him. I 312 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: was telling him about the Hollywood Bowl performance of Chicago 313 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: and how which apparently she slayed. She slayed, She did slay. 314 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: But I was like telling him about it, and I 315 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: was like, you know, they always cast it with like 316 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: these weird C list celebrities like Chicago with Ashley Simpson, 317 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: and he thought I was He thought I was fucking 318 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: brilliant first of all, because he thought he was like, Wow, 319 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: what an incredible improvised line, like these two references together. 320 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, no, babe, this is real. I'm 321 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: just saying history. Okay, talk about me. Maybe it's the 322 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: Glossary of St. Louis, because it's history, baby. It is 323 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: fun to think about. It is fun to think about 324 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: has beens in the Hollywood Bowl like uish has been? 325 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: What is your combo C list celebrity And honestly, here's mine. 326 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin starring with Erica Jane in 327 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: a Hollywood Bull version of Chicago. I want Rinna playing Velma. 328 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: I want Erica Jane doing Roxy what she did and 329 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: also Roxy. Of course. I mean Rinna famously would not 330 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: stop talking about how she did Roxy. But I also 331 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: think she's got Velma in her. We see the way 332 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: she moved uptuous. And I think Harry Hamlin, I would 333 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: like to see him do Billy Flynn. I think, um, 334 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: that was Luan and there as the matron Mama Morton, 335 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: because she was this close to booking that gig. So 336 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: she says, so, she says, let's be real. She was 337 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: out here like really saying it was happening. She was like, yeah, 338 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: and I'm doing Chicago. That was my Countess Luin and 339 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing Chicago and I don't even think that was official. Yeah. 340 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: I want to see, um, I want to see uh, 341 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: Phil of the Future. Sure in next to Normal whatever 342 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: that kid's name is. You want to see, Yeah, wow, 343 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: what is that kid's name? We're gonna call him Fellow 344 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: the Future. Um, but you want to see sort of 345 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: a bad next to normal. I don't want to see 346 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: next to Normal done badly. See these other shows you 347 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: can see done badly because it's the Camp Chicago. We 348 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: can see done badly next to normal? Did I ever 349 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: tell you about the time I saw next to normal? 350 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: And B? But I'm I can't wait to hear about it. Well, 351 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: I won the lottery, so you know how you could 352 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: go likes put your name in the lottery. I won, 353 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: and we got to sit in the Lincoln seats, which 354 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: I call them because famously, you know, he's sort of 355 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I was in like that Mezzanian box, 356 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: and um, I cried harder than I think I've ever 357 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: cried in my life next to my friend Mackenzie, who 358 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: who was like my my friend, like we were like 359 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: sophomores in college, and we I literally I wept so 360 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: hard at Alice Ripley sue anyway, I'm believing. I thought 361 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: you'd like to know remember her like iconic? Did you 362 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: see it with her? I didn't see it with her? No, 363 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: you up? I saw. I saw. I saw a summer 364 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: summer stock theater production of it. Who was in it? 365 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: What did you even have a good nobody? Nobody was? 366 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: My God? It was terrible? Did and what what I 367 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: would give to go back and see some of the 368 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: stuff that was on Broadwa when we were in New York. 369 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: What we need to do is get Alice Ripley on 370 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: TikTok because do you remember the YouTube videos. Do you 371 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: remember the YouTube videos of Alice Ripley just completely losing 372 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: her mind on a video blog. We need Alice Ripley 373 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: on TikTok. Yeah, I mean I think all these all 374 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: these actresses of a certain age that are like um 375 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: sort of you know, aging out of their types on Broadway, 376 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: they should go to TikTok because that's where it's happening. 377 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: And I do think like that this the Zoomer generation 378 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: would respond to them because they have the tricks, you 379 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean, local tricks, and this is the 380 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: sort of thing like you can you can get Alice 381 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: Repley can get her tricks across and TikTok like that 382 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: Shoshana Beam is flopping not being on TikTok. Well, you see, 383 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: I was talking more about Al's Ripley's like spoken words 384 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: sort of jet fields that sort of is she is 385 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: she um? Is she a denier? You know what? That's 386 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: the energy that she brings to those videos. I don't 387 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: want to say. I don't want to say for sure, 388 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to say with certainty that she is 389 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: a Denier, but that is definitely the energy, the vibe 390 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: that she brings to those videos. Oh my god, how 391 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: iconic to bring nine eleven denier energy. But she's got it. Yeah, 392 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: there are angels in this city. Yeah, angels in this city. 393 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: And steel doesn't melt like that. By the way, speaking 394 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: America drains, I haven't really gotten to download with you 395 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: about the Housewives of it All. Well, let's do it. 396 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: What are your fucking thoughts? She's absolutely guilty. Have you 397 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: seen The Hustler and the and the and the and 398 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: the Housewife? I was waiting to watch it with Sudi. 399 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Can you sort of download me? Well, there's really nothing 400 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: new except like, they're both at fault, they're both staled, 401 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: they're both evil. Um. It is worth watching the first 402 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes just to have Danielle Stob try to explain 403 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 1: how she knows Erica Jane UM, because it's literally like 404 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: she doesn't she doesn't know Erica Jane And it's she's 405 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: literally like, yeah, we met um one time and I 406 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: there was something about like and it's so clear. She 407 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: has no idea, they have never they have no relationship. Um, 408 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: but that's fun. Um it is. It is worth watching, 409 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: like the first forty minutes for sure. I don't think 410 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: you need the full hour and a half, but especially 411 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: because daniel Stob is apparently quite a large part of it. 412 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you didn't think it was 413 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen, we already have our front runner for Cousin 414 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: of the week, which is Danielle Stob and she especially 415 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: here on Long Island where I am, that is a 416 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: Long Island cousin. If I've ever seen one absolutely positive 417 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: about information, she does not have that. And also just 418 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: her entire state of being, you know what they'll also, 419 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: I would say Alice is definitely in the running for 420 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: cousin because she's that she's that older cousin that you 421 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: still have to call aunt, even though she's not really 422 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: your aunt, she's technically your cousin. Would call her aunt 423 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: Alice anyways, because she's so much older than everybody else. Yes, 424 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: because it would feel odd for her to be she's 425 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: not one of the cousins. She certainly doesn't sit at 426 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: the kid's table. No, no, no, no, no, childless has 427 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: been less but related and around. I've told you though 428 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: that like literally when I was younger. I didn't know 429 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: this until I started watching Real Housewives in New Jersey. 430 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: But Melissa Gorga is peak hot cousin energy. Like when 431 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: you're a little gay boy on Long Island, you want 432 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: to be Melissa Gorga more than anything else, at least 433 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: in the past two seasons when she's got like her 434 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: like sorr. But I mean she would admit to this, 435 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: like she's got her work like all the way done 436 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: and together and settled in and she's like dressing better 437 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: than ever. She is peak cousin energy Gorgah. I mean, 438 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't see that. That's not my in the Midwest, 439 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: it's not our culture to look like that. It's just 440 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: not um yeah, I'm like, we're much more of a 441 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: sweatpants tucked into an ug's like very platinum blonde, right, 442 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: that's sort of sort of like a younger Sutton Strack, 443 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: maybe even like Brandy Glanville. Oh tough, yeah, um well, 444 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: but okay, So so Erica Jane. She is guilty as 445 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: per She is absolutely guilty. She knew something. She absolutely 446 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: knew something. I hate and Andy is protecting her. Andy 447 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: is protecting her in a way on this show that 448 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: I you know, he's my king, you know, he's my king. 449 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Let's tell me, let me sell you something. He's my 450 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: king too. And it's going to be a race. Your 451 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: way ahead of me right now, but it's gonna be 452 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: a race. Okay, we'll see we'll see you. No, you 453 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: know I love to share boys with you. Yeah, that 454 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: is fully true. U Um but anyway, hey king, if 455 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: you're listening, Um, but wait, wait, wait, does the documentary 456 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: alleged that Andy is protecting her or did you Jill 457 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: Kim Booster he alleged that he's protecting her. You watch 458 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: the documentary and then you watch the show and you're like, 459 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: this show is protecting Erica Jane, Like they're giving her 460 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: this narrative and who knows, who knows what turn it's? 461 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: Who knows what turns it will take by the end. 462 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: You know, I do think ourselves smells a rat. I 463 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: do think that she is onto her a little bit, 464 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: But um, I don't know that we're gonna get a 465 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: ton of Eric Jane is guilty on the show itself. Well, 466 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Erica Jane does not like her at it. Did you 467 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: hear about this? No Erica? And you know who's by 468 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: the way, you know who's been curiously silent on the 469 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: Erica Jane of it all? Is big? Is big? Erica 470 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: Jane stand Megan McCain curiously silent now that it seems 471 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: Erica Jane maybe go into the big house as they 472 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: call it, Megan, she didn't want to comment time. She 473 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: was like, I know this is going to become a 474 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: top story and I have to leave now before it 475 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: becomes um ubiquitous in the culture. Um no, no, no. 476 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: But basically my thing is like, if Erica Jane is 477 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: guilty and she doesn't like her edit because I guess 478 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: they show her sort of flaunting her wealth in the 479 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: early episodes like and and I think she's unhappy about 480 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: it all, then does she continue on the show. And 481 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: if she doesn't continue on the show, what happens? Does 482 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: she go to jail? Is it like that bad? Or 483 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: is it like, you know, non felonious, like attached to 484 00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: your like insanely you know, fell in husband. I don't 485 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: know what is it? You know? Um something about me 486 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: is that I'm not a legal expert. Um and I've 487 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: been saying that this is why we need a Sonny 488 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: hostin on the show. This is what we need a 489 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Sonny to cut too and go can you explain this 490 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: to us? But I'm absolutely going to speak out of 491 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: turn and say she flips, flips, she gets a plea guard, 492 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: she gets a plea bargain, she flips, She goes back 493 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: to waiting tables, She does Erthy Jane performances on the weekends. 494 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: She loses Mikey. Oh, I want the scene where they were, 495 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: where he had, where she has to fire him. I 496 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: want the scene where she looks at her fucking books, 497 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: realizes she can't keep Mikey and has to sort of 498 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: call him over and in a much more dramatic breakup 499 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: than anything she could have ever had with Tom Girardi, 500 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: has to let Mikey go that and and it's just 501 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: such a shame because I don't think he's done. I 502 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: don't think he's done with the work that he wants 503 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: to do, Like he came back. He's got those all 504 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: star lips now. But I think he wants the teeth 505 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: too big. I think he wants the teeth. I think 506 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: he wants I think he's I think he's in this 507 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: for a long time. I think he's in in this 508 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: for an eventual eye lift. I mean, I think I 509 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: think he's in this for a long haul. And I 510 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: actually I think he's gotten more to say. I think 511 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: Mikey has more to say creatively, and I want him 512 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: on the team. Still, I'm just upset, like I don't know, 513 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: Like I guess I didn't realize I liked Erica Jane 514 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: this much, but I really don't want her to be 515 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't want her to be a criminal. I'm so, 516 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: I'm sort of I've been done with Erica Jane for 517 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: a couple of seasons. Now. I don't need her on 518 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: the show. She she gives nothing. Why is she given? 519 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: In the last two seasons, she gives nothing. And we've 520 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: now got to read Derek gives the looks, brings the 521 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: drama to re brings her goofy little accent. We don't 522 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: need Erica. Yeah, I forget that, that's true. And go 523 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: back and watch, go back and watch that confrontation on 524 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: the boat. I showed this to you over Quarantine. You're right, 525 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: this was this was something. This is what kept us 526 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: going in Quarantine. Was this confrontation on the boat where 527 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: derrit says, you are cold and you bring nothing, and 528 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: she was right to go back and watch that fight 529 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: on the China boat. She was right, deret was right. 530 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: Believe you actually are a percent right that Dorrits sort 531 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: of handled Erica in that moment that I think and 532 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: I think I think I said to you like and 533 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: I think Dorit's response was not in Erica's playbook. It's 534 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: like America doesn't get spoken back to like that. Like 535 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: Erica says, when Erica Jane says to anyone, you're jealous 536 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: of me, the response that she thinks she's gonna get 537 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: is you're right, and I'm afraid of you two. And 538 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: Derrett was like, hold on, wait, pause it all. I'm 539 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: not jealous of you. I'm not afraid of you. I 540 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: don't like you. Why what what is there to like 541 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: about you? I find you to be really cold and 542 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: not fun to be around, and you're a bully. And 543 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: that was that was I think that's why there is 544 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: still there today and Teddy is not. Because Teddy was 545 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: shaking like a leaf the whole time, like a leaf, 546 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: and and without the looks she you have to bring 547 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: some column, make some column. B She had no calm, 548 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: She had no columns. She was collapsed, tough about your 549 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: Midwest cousin. That's talk tucked into an ug. That's Teddy Mellencamp, 550 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: That's t Mellencamp. And we say that was all the 551 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: love in the world for John Cougar Mellencamp. And where 552 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: are we? Where are we? The re uh Sutton v Crystal? Um? Okay, 553 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: so I this is here's the thing. I am a slutton. 554 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: I am a I am a sluton. Identify as a slutton. 555 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: Um tell me that girl. Tell me you're that girl. 556 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: But but I'm not that girl. And I was with 557 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 1: Crystal the entire way throughout that entire thing, and I 558 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: was like, Crystal to me, is killing it. She's crushing it. 559 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: I think that she could eventually one day move to 560 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: center couch because I think that she will be the 561 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: one to start in old ly with Kyle or Jury. 562 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think she'll be able to handle herself because 563 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: I think she's smart. I think she's rich in a 564 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: real way. I think she can back up everything she says. 565 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: And I think she's and I say this with all 566 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: the love in the world for her. She's a bitch. 567 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: She's a bitch and and and I I think it's 568 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: like aspirational. She's like she genuinely believes in her heart 569 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: of hearts, like ultimately, I could walk away from Sutton 570 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: right now and she would think about it forever and 571 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: I could get over it. And I kind of am. 572 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: I just think she sort of overplayed her hand here 573 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: re the Sutton walking into her bedroom of it all. 574 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: I think that she is gonna learn from this because 575 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: I think she went a little too far and gave 576 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: them fodder with this thing of the violating of it all, 577 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: like Crystal, like Sutton walked into my bedroom and I 578 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: wasn't dressed, and it was a violation that language is 579 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: going to give these white women who are like super 580 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: concerned about cancelation and super like that's a very that's 581 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: a very damning accusation. That's a very big word that 582 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: you're throwing around their Crystal like she's going to give 583 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: them ammunition to be like, shame on you for making 584 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: Crystal seem to be this person. And actually even Garcelle 585 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: thought it was too much and you and I was 586 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: really hoping for an alliance there and it almost happened. 587 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: Crystal would have been smarter to Harp. More on Sutton's 588 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't see race issue and less on the violation issue, 589 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: it would have been a better play. I think it 590 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: just got exhausting for her though that plotline. I wouldn't 591 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: want to continue that plotline either. Would you like to 592 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: be the one on the show that's having to handle 593 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: someone that is so much like it's like this with 594 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: Dr Tiffany and Moon on Dallas. I think she got 595 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: so bogged down in the Brandy storyline, and then also 596 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: with um what's her face? Cameron, and you're talking about 597 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: men who are I'm sorry, but so much dumber than 598 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: her that it's like, at a certain point you have 599 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: to feel shitty for even like allowing yourself to continue 600 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: the storyline because it's not gonna go anywhere because you're 601 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: not playing with people with a full deck. And I 602 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: think that Crystal saw the way that Sutton was responding 603 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: to all of everything Crystal was saying about like just 604 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: trying to walk it back and being like, you can't 605 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: be a person that says I don't see race. That's 606 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: not the way we do things anymore. Like understand that 607 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: my situation is more different, is more and more difficult, 608 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: and I think she just realized that Sutton was not 609 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: operating at a level where she could get that in 610 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: that moment or at all, so she kind of back. 611 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, these women need Hazard pay. Every person of 612 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: color on a show that is predominantly white, on one 613 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: of these franchises, deserves Hazard Pay for the educating that 614 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: they have. They are they're backed into a corner to do. 615 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: They have no choice but to do it. But we can't. 616 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: We have to, we have to start talking about Housewives. No, 617 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: because the one thing I want to first of all, 618 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: why do you say that to me? I'm just aware 619 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: of people who listen to this show who don't watch 620 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: them The Housewives? Oh why because they live in San Francisco. 621 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: That I know people who don't live in San Francisco 622 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: who also don't listen to the Housewives. I want to 623 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: say one more thing, which is that I couldn't give 624 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: a ship less about New York this season. Yeah. Yeah, 625 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: Leah really overplayed her hand. She really overplayed her hand. 626 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: This this happens with second season. This happens all the 627 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: time with girls who have good first seasons or good 628 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: seasons even they go in high on their own supply. 629 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: They think their ship, don't stink. They think they can 630 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: get away with anything. They think they can say anything, 631 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: including I'm not going to vote in election. And she 632 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: lost me. She lost me. No, that was that was 633 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: That was definitely a flashback to a very bad emotional 634 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: time for all of us when we were dealing with 635 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: people like Leah who were like these gorgeous, rich, white 636 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: blond women who are like, I'm just so fucking pissed 637 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: up the whole thing. I'm like, I'm probably not going 638 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: to vote. I'm just like you. Oh it's tough. Oh, 639 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: it's tough. And I think because she presents as so cool, 640 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: she gets away with a lot of ship, a lot 641 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: of ship. Yeah, and it's just but like the coolness 642 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: of it all is like so manufactured that it just 643 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: it's you can see the cracks are showing this season. 644 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: The cracks are showing in a way where it's like, 645 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: and also, just go fucking home. I'm so tired of 646 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: her being like my grandmother is dying and I have 647 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: to be on this vacation right now. Go home. Bit, 648 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: just go home, all right? You know what? Moving away 649 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: from this, how would you rate your excitement level from 650 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: on a one through ten scale for Black Widow because 651 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about my own number. Really, I would 652 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: have thought you would be an eight or I because 653 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm fairly I'm fairly an eight. I would say, and 654 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: are you? But are you like are you like A 655 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: are you a Black Widow fan? I'm a I'm a 656 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: lady fan, same, you know. But then I'm a prestige 657 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: actress fan. So you would consider me three of them 658 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: in one movie. That's true. That's true, And we did here. 659 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: Louis did say that he felt the movie was not bad. 660 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: But Louis that's huge, yeah, because he hates Marvel. But um, 661 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: Rachel Weiss didn't have a lot to do. Florence is 662 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: fun and Scarlett kind of just does what she does, 663 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: which is honestly what I was expecting from this. I 664 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: guess I think that maybe the Black Widow, I just 665 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: don't find her to be the most compelling Marvel character. 666 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: And I think that you kind of know what she's 667 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: been through already, right, Yeah. I mean the thing is 668 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: is she's sort of the utility player narratively, you know, 669 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: like she they slap her in in a lot of 670 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: spaces in the movie, and and she does she serves 671 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: a function in each movie that is sort of like 672 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: immaterial to her character, Like she plays a very specific 673 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: role in UM, Winter Soldier, she plays much Ultron, she plays, 674 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: She's she plays you know it? Does they do sort 675 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: of like use her for whatever they need in that 676 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: movie specifically? And I just think that like there is 677 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: not a lot of there there yet because we haven't 678 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: how a movie to focuses on yet. Here's the question 679 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: I have for you, as someone who is a major 680 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: and Marvel fan and someone that watches it very closely 681 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: and knows it from different angles, not just the movies. 682 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: Do you think that the character of the Black Widow 683 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: is used movie to movie in a way that is 684 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: truthful to her character because she's looking for connection and 685 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: looking for a family. Or do you think that Scarlett 686 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: Johanson is often placed in these movies because they want 687 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: some sort of will veera won't they with whoever the 688 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: male leaders of that movie? Because when I watched Winter Soldier, 689 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: there's like a few moments like especially this moment in 690 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: the car, It's like this actually kind of cool moment, 691 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: and and for the Marvel movies, UM at that point anyway, 692 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: in the Winter Soldier where um uh, Captain America and 693 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: the Black Widow are driving in the car and it's 694 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: really quiet scene. There's like this like sort of like 695 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: slow song playing on the radio and they're having this 696 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: conversation about like, um like where they belong in the world, 697 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: and it's like sort of romantic, and I'm like, are 698 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: are they intimating that that's a thing. And then also 699 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: there's like a huge romantic plotline throughout the movies with 700 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: the Hulk and Black Widow and they even kiss. And 701 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: then in Avengers Endgame famously, her last scene spoiler alert 702 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: is with Hawkeye played by Jeremy Renner, and it's intimated 703 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: that they also have had a romantic history. I don't 704 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: think that that that's quite as clear. I think that 705 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: they have always. That's one of the consistencies I think 706 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: from It's Very Charged, from from Age of Ultra is 707 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: that they're very close like boot like what is it 708 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: like Budapest or whatever They referenced a couple of times 709 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: um in the movies, like this is just like Budapest 710 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: or some ship like. I do think that they have 711 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: like a closeness. I think that they have both similarly 712 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: like dark pasts that only they are aware of. But 713 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't think, um, I don't think. I don't think 714 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: that the the Endgame thing was supposed to be romantic. 715 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there was anymili No. I think it 716 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: was familiar. I think it was completely familiar. Interesting because yes, 717 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: Hawkeye in the movies is very much with Linda Cardelini, 718 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: which CARLINI one of the biggest wats I would say 719 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: second biggest waste of of a great actress in the 720 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: Marvel universe. And you know what number one is Rachel McAdams. 721 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: We we've I've said it on this podcast before, I'll 722 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: say it again. We need to get her new agents. 723 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: Who is repping Rachel McAdams. Yeah. I think that Rachel 724 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: McAdams suffers from being I think she suffers from fifth 725 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: choice syndrome. I think that this I've said this on 726 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 1: this podcast before. I think that Rachel McAdams doesn't deserve 727 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: this at all. But I think this is what happens 728 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: with her. I think that she's so good at everything, 729 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: and she had that breakout moment in like two thousand 730 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: four where she was like the lead of the Notebook 731 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: and the lead and and Regina George and she was 732 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 1: in Red Eye, and she was so likable and amazing 733 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: in um Wedding Crashers, and then she was in Family 734 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: Stone and did this great character performance and I believe 735 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: had supporting actress buzz for that and was just everywhere that. 736 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: I think people didn't see her in a specific enough way, 737 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: and I think they didn't know what movies to really 738 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 1: either write for her or push her for or whatever. 739 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: So what happened was she sort of became this person 740 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: who was like on everyone's list, but not first. And 741 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: she also sort of popped off in the Jennifer Lawrence era, 742 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: and so this I just think what happened to her 743 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: is there weren't enough good parts for women at that 744 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: time in film, and she was specifically popping off in film, 745 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: and it would it would be a few years until 746 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: that was a little bit better. And it's still not 747 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: that much better because now TV is Queen, TV as Queen. 748 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: She had her opportunity on TV, though wasn't her I 749 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: know it wasn't her fault, but like, why haven't we been? 750 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: Where's her? Marathies Town? You know we tried. It's got 751 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: to be coming, It's gotta be coming. It's gotta be 752 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: coming because think about how on paper she's made every 753 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: right decision in the world. It's true and and and 754 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: and and if Mean Girls came out today, she would 755 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: have been nominated for you know, we're so much kinder 756 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: now to not only just comedic performances but also comedic 757 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: performances from women. I mean, like that Melissa McCarthy nomination 758 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: was like huge, and they always did this. I mean, 759 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, like if there were going 760 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: to be broad comedy performances honored, like it would happen 761 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: in that category. I mean all the way going back 762 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: to Cactus Flower with Goldie han Or like you know, 763 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: Marissa Tomay and my cousin Vinnie like always yes, but 764 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: high school never. I do think it would be It 765 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: would be better now. I think you're right. And what 766 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: we call the Hailey Steinfeld era and he had to 767 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: ride a horse, she had to ride a horse. She 768 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: had to do that goose the accent, I think, you know. 769 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: And I just watched Clueless again today, Brittany Murphy, I 770 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: have said this. I said this across the table from 771 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: my friend, our friend, Matt Whittaker, and he scoffed in 772 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: my face. I said, if Britney Murphy were alive today, 773 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: she would have been nominated for an Oscar. She would 774 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: have had a cross. She is. She was the moment 775 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: and she continues to be the moment. You are a 776 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent right, jil Cam Booster, and it's why you've 777 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: been on this podcast seven hundred times and why you 778 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: were an Icon Award winner. UM, aren't you? Are you 779 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: a Last Culture Kind Of Award winner? I don't think 780 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: I think that's won it like three times. I don't 781 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: think I have won. I have an announcement as of tonight, 782 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: Joe Kim, you have won the Last Cultures Like Kind 783 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: Award for coming in on the clutch and you are 784 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: gonna get a gift. This is really exciting because for 785 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: saying do you want to give a quick speech? Yeah. 786 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: I would like to thank UM, the WiFi in the 787 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: Dominican Republic for keeping for keeping going off this podcast. UM. 788 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: I would like to thank Matt Um for you know, 789 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: needing to fill time, UM, and forgetting that I had 790 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: hadn't won the award in the first place, and mistakenly 791 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: believing that I had. UM. And I'd like to thank, 792 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: of course Brittany Murphy for being sort of the launching 793 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: pad of my greatest take on this podcast that I've 794 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: probably said on the podcast before. But you know, it's 795 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: been a year and a half since I've really needed 796 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: to comment on culture. So please wrap up. Okay, they're 797 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: playing me off. There really are do Do Do? Do? 798 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,479 Speaker 1: Do Do? Wow? That Oscar song is so iconic, isn't 799 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: it that like do do do? We all know it? Um? Wait? Okay, 800 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: So Brittany Murphy would have been at LEAs nominated for 801 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: an Oscar at this point, and I really think she 802 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: would be Prestige TV actress in the vein of Elizabeth 803 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: Moss because I believe that she missed her moment to 804 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: really show us what she could do when there was 805 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot more opportunity for her, because every 806 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: single time she was in anything, she scored. Weren't you 807 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: there when we just watched Dropped Ed? Gorgeous? Yeah, incredible 808 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: in that and no one thinks of her when they 809 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: think of that movie. No nobody thinks of Amy Adams either. Listen, 810 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: we talked about kirst Ally. We talked, We talked, we 811 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: really do. But what we do not talk about with 812 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: Kirstily is Kirsti Ally turning to Amy Adams on the 813 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 1: set of Dropped Gorgeous and saying, you need to move 814 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: to l A. And here's the alley. Is the reason 815 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: we have a rival, is the reason we have June 816 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: Bug is the reason we have the worst parts of Julia, 817 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: and Julia is the reason. She is the reason. And 818 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: so yes, you're stale is a kook. Yes, she is 819 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: a scientologist, but I think karmically she balanced things out 820 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 1: by giving us say name. She also unfortunately turns that 821 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: fucking movie all the way out. She's so good and 822 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: she's also so good. And it takes two. Oh my god, 823 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,439 Speaker 1: I fucking love it takes two. Steve Gudenberg and her 824 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: hot also Steve Gutenberg hot? What the fuck is he? Yes? Yes, 825 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: literally yes, look it up. He feels like the the 826 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: only like the kind of hot that is only hot 827 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: in the nineties though, like that men don't like don't 828 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: men don't look like that, you know what. He's that 829 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: type of like young Jerry Seinfeld attractive where you're like, sure, 830 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: you bang these women, you know what I mean, Like 831 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 1: you're attracted to him despite yourself, sort of because you've 832 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: been conditioned to a big conversation in coming. You know 833 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: who's sort of an analog to that. I would say, 834 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: who's sort of the Steve Gudenberg of today, John Reynolds. 835 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: John Reynolds has the very same vibe where I would 836 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: I would suck the ship out of John Reynolds. But 837 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: he does have that same Gutenberg Young Steinfeld, young Billy Crystal. 838 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,479 Speaker 1: I never got Billy Crystal until I saw when Harry 839 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: met Sally. Oh yeah, you know what's funny. He's way 840 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: out of his league in that movie, but you still 841 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: get it, You really do still get it. And like 842 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,439 Speaker 1: you ever seen City Slickers. No, he is that kind 843 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 1: of like like Blue Gene New York, like ker mudgeon vibe. 844 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: Hair has been receiving probably since he was eight years old, 845 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: that vibe where you're still like, I'd still fuck you. 846 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 1: And I also think this isn't annoying to say. But 847 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: like in the nineties, like whenever Jerry Seinfeld had those 848 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: like hot girl friend, whenever he was dating like Terry Hatcher, 849 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: like peak Terry Hatcher in the nineties, I didn't question 850 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: a thing. I was like, yeah, for sure, they're fucking him. Um, 851 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: but okay, wait, this is what I wanted to say. 852 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: So speaking of Hailey Steinfeld and Black Widow so so 853 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: so this is relatively to you and your interests. You 854 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: know that Hailey Steinfeldt is m c U because you 855 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: know she's the new Hawkeye. I did know that. Um, 856 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: I think that's amazing is that Kate Bishop? Is that 857 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 1: she k Bishop? And did you know that one of 858 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: these sort of fun crossovers that's happening in the m 859 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,720 Speaker 1: c U series is Florence Pu is in the Hawkeye series. 860 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: So this sort of lends to my point earlier about 861 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: the Black Widow and Hawkeye connection of it all because 862 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: you know that Florence p was gonna show up sort 863 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: of I guess the long lost sister of Scarlett Natasha Romanov, 864 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: And you know that Jeremy Renner is going to give 865 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: his classic like steely eyed glances over at her, like 866 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: why is this girl reminded me of someone from my past? 867 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope, I hope we don't get that. 868 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: I hope that they make a better choice. But I 869 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: can absolutely see that happening. And I think speaking of 870 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: Hailey Steinfeld is speaking of Haley Steinfeld dot dot dot 871 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: that's the front runner for title of app and that 872 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: is how I know that you truly were the person 873 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 1: to come here because you know, to offer the title 874 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: of app speaking of Hailey Steinfeld dot dot dot parentheses 875 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: with special with ultra special guest Jill Kim Booster. Can 876 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: I congratulate you, by the way, I'm so excited for you. 877 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: The Fire Island movie is going to be incredible. And 878 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: can I say uh with a gentleman I'm singing. I 879 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: recently just just watched Bride and Prejudice, Yes, and I 880 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: loved it, and I almost I also ordered I ordered 881 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 1: a special fresh copy of Pride and Prejudice, um, and 882 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to watch the Kira version as well, and 883 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm like watching I love and I can't wait to 884 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 1: watch it again. And I'm just like really soaking into 885 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: the story again. God damn, what a fucking classic that is, 886 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 1: and how how well it works, um to map it 887 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: onto the situation that you're mapping it on. I want 888 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: to know, just like not to like really seriously interview, 889 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: but like what made you think of that? Um? Honestly, 890 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 1: it happened in like when we were there for the 891 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: first time. It was the book that I brought to 892 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: read and I was literally just in the midst of 893 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: reading Pride and Prejudice, looking around at this island and 894 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: looking at the ways in which, like our culture is 895 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: sort of compressed in a very like specific way on 896 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: the island. There are no straight people. There are no 897 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: straight people except the teenage girls that work in the canteen, 898 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: and which are my favorite girls. I'm so excited to 899 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: see them next week. Oh my amandous. They need they 900 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: need a Bravo reality show. Like I know it's insane 901 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: to say, like Fire Island needs a show, but it 902 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: needs to be about the straight girls who work in 903 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: the pantry. But those of you who know, you know, 904 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: those girls have seen it all. They've seen it all. 905 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: You know. Those were all my girlfriends in high school, 906 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: all my girlfriends in high school. I'm talking about Alison, 907 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Alex, I'm talking about both Emily's. I'm 908 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 1: talking about Sam, I'm talking about Kate, I'm talking about Brittany, 909 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Lorienne. All of them worked in the 910 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: Ocean Bay Park market and they were those girls in 911 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 1: the loose buns, their hair slopped up in a loose 912 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 1: bun with an oversized sweatshirt. Pri Arianna wearing Nike slides 913 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: looking looking like looking like green eminem every smilarly literally 914 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: and also like sort of a little bit of makeup 915 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: from the night before. And uh lacrosse shorts sleepy all 916 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 1: day from six am when they get there to five 917 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,919 Speaker 1: pm when they leave, or switch over with another girl 918 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,919 Speaker 1: named the same name as them. I'm telling you so, yes, 919 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: you are right, they are the only straight women there. 920 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: Continue your point anyways, um no, And it just like 921 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 1: listen Jane Austen, like if you read it again. I 922 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: know many of us were forced to read Jane in 923 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: high school and it didn't and many people didn't connect. 924 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: I didn't connect with it until I was in college. 925 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 1: But like her social observations are so prescient, and especially 926 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: the ways in which we conceal the harm that we 927 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: do to each other under social niceties. And it is 928 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: so gay. It's just so gay, like she create, she 929 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,399 Speaker 1: clocked what shade is before we had a word for it. 930 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: Bangley was the original, you know, lay laomi, that's a 931 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: rule of culture nine. The original. God, I don't know, 932 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 1: and I just I literally I was like the ways 933 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: in which class sort of map onto the way in 934 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: which class not like exists in the gay community, not 935 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: just class as we know it, like financially, but I 936 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,879 Speaker 1: think like looking a certain way is its own sort 937 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,399 Speaker 1: of class. Race is its own sort of class in 938 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 1: our community, and like it. Just you know, it started 939 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: as a joke. It literally started as a joke. I 940 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: would joke about it constantly. And I'm going to write 941 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: a movie about Fire Island that takes place on on 942 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: that is a Pride and Prejudice remake, and I never 943 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: meant to do it. And then a while ago I 944 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: wrote an essay about Jane Austen and Pride and Fire 945 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: Island and my agent and literally the only good thing 946 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: my agent has ever done. David, I hope you're listening 947 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: to this, and I hope you know that. I think 948 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: you've done nothing from my career except for this one thing. 949 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: But he read that essay and he was like, you 950 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: should make this a show, and I was like, that 951 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: is the dumbest thing you've ever said. Never talked to 952 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: me again, nobody will ever read that. And then on 953 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 1: a plane right to Japan, I wrote a sex script 954 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 1: um for what was originally gonna be a show, and 955 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: then eventually, um, you know, things happened and I sold 956 00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 1: it to Quimby, and the rest is history and the 957 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: rest remember oh do I ever? Yeah? You know what's funny. 958 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,399 Speaker 1: It's like when when Quimby launched, I was like, I'm 959 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: so happy were one of the first, and now I'm like, God, 960 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: Joel really dodged a bullet by not being one of 961 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: the first to launch with Quimby, because honestly, had you 962 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: had this come out with Quimby, it doesn't get made 963 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 1: at Hulu. It is incredible. I mean, yes, the pandemic 964 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: did take my father, but did it give me a 965 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,479 Speaker 1: movie at Hulu? It did, absolutely, so it all really 966 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: evens out me in um. Also, I recently went home 967 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: with a guy and he turned on his TV and 968 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: and the Roku thing came up, and I was like, 969 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, you have Roku and I got I 970 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: was actually I was not as excited as that about it. 971 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,959 Speaker 1: I was sort of like, oh my god, you have Roku. Um. 972 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 1: But in the back of my head, I was like, 973 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: we could watch the original one. You know what, you 974 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: could have watched Game Show all episodes of season one 975 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 1: streaming on Roku. But I don't think it's necessarily and 976 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: singled out, yeah, I have to say like, um, I 977 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: was one of those people that in high school, I 978 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:12,240 Speaker 1: believe in my ap compt isn't very much a genius. 979 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: I was get this. I did win in my grade. 980 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: I won the English Award, like I was the best 981 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: English student in my class. Says the English department. Okay, 982 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: says the English Department, not me. Don't get mad at me, 983 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: don't make don't write me letters. Write the write the 984 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,439 Speaker 1: ap lit department or the English department, high school letters. 985 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: Okay from from you know however, many years ago, as 986 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 1: I shrivel and die, Um, but I did read Pride 987 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: and Prejudice, and um, I kind of it kind of 988 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: missed me. And then in reading your piece about it 989 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: that you wrote, um, and then in in reading the script, honestly, 990 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: I really like I saw it out again and I 991 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: watched the movie again, which I of course watched when 992 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: it came out, and enjoyed like I would watch any 993 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 1: movie that has Oscar Buzz or any movie with Cure 994 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,720 Speaker 1: and Nightley. I do love her, um, but I've really 995 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 1: found myself enjoying it more and more and more, and 996 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: like your script too. I I've just enjoyed so much 997 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 1: because what I love about it and what I'm so 998 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: excited for everyone to see is that it's extremely truthful 999 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: to the experience of being on Fire Island and the 1000 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: experience of being I think UM a gay man and 1001 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 1: a group of gay friends, and especially UM a gay 1002 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: man and a group of gay friends that's been a 1003 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: group of friends for a long time, and there's been 1004 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: changes to that. It does feel like that mapping of 1005 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: the forgive me but chosen family onto the actual family 1006 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: really tracks, and UM, it's just gonna be really fun. 1007 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,399 Speaker 1: And I don't I just don't know that we've had 1008 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: like a definitive and not that it has to be 1009 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: definitive at all. It doesn't and it's not trying to be. 1010 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 1: But I think it will be really fun to have 1011 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: this movie take place here because there's history in the 1012 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: story that we're telling, and there's a so history and 1013 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 1: the place we're telling it. So I think it's really exciting, Jollie, 1014 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: And I'm really happy for you. I'm proud of you. 1015 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. It is the it's the biggest thing 1016 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: to ever happen in my life. And I'm nervous and 1017 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 1: i'm scared, but I'm mostly I'm mostly really excited, you know, 1018 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: like I, this is the year of it is the year, 1019 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,280 Speaker 1: and I refuse to accept otherwise I will get everything 1020 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: I want. I will get every single fucking thing that 1021 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: I want. Yeah, baby, you deserve it. Um. Well then 1022 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: right after that, you're gonna go, what shoot your fucking 1023 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: show loot with mya Rootolf? What is yes? Three three 1024 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,800 Speaker 1: days after we wrap, I start shooting that show. Um, 1025 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: which is not Apple. It is on Apple. It is 1026 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: Stars my Rootolf, it's Alan Yang. Um. I don't think 1027 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm speaking out of turn when I say that they 1028 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: wrote the part for me, which is really awesome. Um. 1029 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: There's lines about being gay and Asian and from Illinois 1030 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: in the side. So I read it and I was like, well, 1031 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: if I don't book the then there's a problem. We 1032 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:08,280 Speaker 1: have a bigger problem than you find out. Then everyone 1033 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: gets really mad. Um. But yeah it was it was 1034 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: a lot, and um, I really needed it because I 1035 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: was really coming down from a lot of molly when 1036 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: I found out, Um, I was coming down. Here's the 1037 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: fun peek behind the curtain. When I shot my episode 1038 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: of I Carli completely in a colmdown just actually I 1039 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 1: believe what what what was that? After? What what if 1040 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,919 Speaker 1: that was that after because I think that was after 1041 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: that was after my friend Chris's thirtieth birthday in San Diego, 1042 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: which is the Florida of the US justice. It is incredible. 1043 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: We tried to play volleyball. We tried to play volleyball 1044 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: on the beach, and the straight reaction to a bunch 1045 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: of game men playing volleyball was such that it was 1046 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 1: like it was either people making fun of us or 1047 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: people being like, oh my god, yes, yes, go for it, Yes, 1048 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: it is okay. What you're doing is okay. So it's okay, 1049 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: we're playing fucking volleyball. You freeze just to drive home 1050 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: like that that San Diego is the Florida of the 1051 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: West coast, like are there jet skis there? Then then 1052 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 1: it might specifically be the Tampa of the West Coast, 1053 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 1: which higher praise I cannot give. Yeah, and the West 1054 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: Coast needs a Tampa, that's for sure. Every coast needs 1055 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: a Tampa, Every coast needs a Tampa. Well you know, 1056 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: actually famously, the Gulf Coast has a Tampa, and then 1057 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: I guess the East Coast really doesn't. What's the Tampa 1058 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: of the East Coast might be? By the time I 1059 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: get there anyway. You can make anything, Tampa, I truly can't. 1060 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: I've never been on a jet ski. What okay? Um, 1061 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: speaking of jet skis, have you been watching Loki? Okay? 1062 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: And this is this is this I wanted to touch 1063 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 1: on with you have not, but not only but that's 1064 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: only because I've sort of been traveling a lot, and 1065 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: like I don't have my I don't have Disney Plus 1066 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: on my computer. I guess I could obviously easily log 1067 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: onto it, but I kind of want to watch it, 1068 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: like in the comfort of my own home on my 1069 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus. Can you sort of explain to me 1070 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: in the readers about Loki being bisexual and how does 1071 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 1: this connect with the themes of the piece. I don't 1072 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: think why he by it is not connected. I think 1073 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: it just tracks with the character. He's, um, you know, 1074 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: a trickster god and as we know bisexuals trick people 1075 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: they are. It's actually should I make that real culture? 1076 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:48,600 Speaker 1: But he's really Coach number fifty four bisexual sexual chat 1077 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 1: trickster um Ja. That's in the rule, Megan, Megan McCain, 1078 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: if you're out there, that's in the rule. Oh, I 1079 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: see I see her off screen. She's shaking her head. 1080 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Now she threw her she threw her pen on the ground. 1081 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:11,919 Speaker 1: It is not a pet, it's a quill anyway. Um, anyways, Yeah, 1082 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't have anything. It doesn't have anything to do 1083 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 1: with the plot. He mentions like fucking guys and girls 1084 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: and and it's that's that's it. That's that's literally it 1085 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 1: alright interesting and so I think it's one of I 1086 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: think texturally it feels much different than anything else in 1087 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: the m c U because you know, they have the 1088 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: house style. I think that like, there are a lot 1089 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: of fun um characters in it. I think there's a 1090 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 1: lot of fun performances in it. I think Owen Wilson 1091 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun in it. I think there's 1092 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: there's an iconic character named Miss Minutes in it that 1093 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: is voice Miss Minutes, Babe, and she is voiced by 1094 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 1: one terror Strong. Like you've gotta get into it, Google, 1095 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 1: What how do you solve a problem? Like? I think easily. 1096 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: I think you just keep giving her parts because something 1097 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: is gonna work. And I actually think she was incredible 1098 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: on the Morning Show. And also, readers, if you haven't 1099 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: watched Beyond the Lights, you gotta watch Beyond the Lights 1100 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: incredible and beyond. If I love Gina Princepice, but I'll 1101 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: have everything she does very fun in Miss Sloan. If 1102 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 1: you've seen that, we have not found we have not 1103 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: found a home for Google. And I don't think it's 1104 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: low key. I don't think it's low key. We still 1105 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: need to try, like we are. She is the glass 1106 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: Slipper and we are traveling around the television landscape trying 1107 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: to find the correct genre and roll for Google. You know, 1108 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: maybe Google is just a character actress that we see 1109 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: plugged in places. I mean, there could be worse things. 1110 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Laura Dern was that for many years and then all 1111 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden she became Laura Dern. Maybe we're just 1112 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 1: far away from the Google song's Yeah, I think we'll 1113 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: get there. I mean, she looks, she looks incredible, she 1114 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: looks like she has an aged today. She's she's a beautiful, 1115 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 1: beautiful woman, shocking. So what does she do in the show. 1116 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 1: She's sort of a boss. She's like the boss of 1117 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 1: Owen Wilson. She is, yeah, at a middle manager. She's 1118 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: a middle manager, which again feels like sort of a 1119 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: way so that she does get some action. It's fun 1120 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: to see Google in action. It's fun to see her, 1121 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: see her wheeled a sword. You know, you love to 1122 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: see Google wheel a sword. Sure, hate to pivot this 1123 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 1: harshly away from Google and maybe the fact that I 1124 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: am is telling. But um, would we fuck Owen Wilson 1125 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: in it? Absolutely? Yeah? I would. I would almost always 1126 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: fuck him. Yeah, depressed or not depressed, it doesn't matter. 1127 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 1: I would. I would fuck Owen Wilson, And I thought 1128 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 1: that way. You know. A sexually formative memory for me 1129 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 1: is the bathtub scene in Shanghai. NW. I literally knew 1130 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: you were going to say that, because that was probably 1131 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: we You were what, uh fourteen? Um, if you were fourteen, 1132 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: I was slightly older, But I think I was younger 1133 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: than that because I had I had never seen myself 1134 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: reflected on screen an Asian, a hot Asian man in 1135 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: a bathtub naked with a hot white man, you know, 1136 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: and that is my experience, that is my lived experience, 1137 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: and it was so beautiful for me to see that 1138 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: reflected back to me. Honest. Do you think that Jackie 1139 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Chan got um hate d M s um from being 1140 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 1: photographed filmed, even in a bathtub with a white man. 1141 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 1: I think he probably did. I think he probably did. 1142 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: I think he probably invented Instagram. People invented Instagram so 1143 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: that just so that they could d m Jackie Chan 1144 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: about that scene and Chann m hm m hm hm hmmm. 1145 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Where is Jackie now? You know what? I don't know, 1146 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 1: too old for all of it. He he was in 1147 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: a movie recently called Like the Foreigner, which is unfortunate. Um, yeah, 1148 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 1: it is not. It's it's sort of not where you 1149 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 1: want to see Jackie Chan now, but um he is. 1150 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 1: He's still kicking it. He's still He's still around, still 1151 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: kicking it. Yeah, like he kicks a cinder block right 1152 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: in half, and so many of his films. Anyway, what 1153 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: else are you watching? Can I tell you? This is 1154 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: one reason why I'm really upset that Bowen couldn't log 1155 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 1: on is because he has been getting really into in Treatment. 1156 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: And have you watched In Treatment? I saw this on 1157 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,479 Speaker 1: Bowen Story and I thought to myself, I should watch 1158 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: in Treatment, but instead I turned on CBS is Evil instead. 1159 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Oh God, I never want to watch something on CBS, 1160 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 1: even The Good Wife. The Good Wife, I would watch 1161 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Slash get into and I would even do that with 1162 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 1: the Good Fight. But I just feel like it is 1163 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 1: too many episodes of too long. We have tied the 1164 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 1: point now where you tell somebody that is seven seasons 1165 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 1: and twenty two episodes per season, and it's untenable. It's 1166 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? Unless there's another pandemic, 1167 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: unless there's an they shutdown there. No one's doing that, 1168 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 1: No one but the Baby. I can really, I can 1169 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 1: barely get through uh limited series ten episodes like and 1170 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 1: and that's long to me now now it's like I 1171 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: need things to be six or seven and in a 1172 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 1: hot forty six minutes like ms Mayer. But nowadays it's 1173 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 1: like and I could never I think The Good Wife 1174 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 1: is the last prestige show that was like on network 1175 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: twenty four episodes of a full length our show that 1176 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 1: people are like, you could still watch this and enjoy. 1177 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: No one's watching loss now. No, people are not doing it. 1178 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: No you do. You need to have Pat Regan on 1179 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: to talk about manifest But you know what, you know 1180 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: what really secured me of my attention span recently that 1181 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: I uh that I watched um is Stephen Universe. Have 1182 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: you seen what is that Stephen Universe is? It's a 1183 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 1: cartoon by Rebecca Sugar it is. The episodes are eleven 1184 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 1: minutes long, if that okay, And it starts out, it's 1185 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: seems very simple, it seems like very trophy. It is 1186 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,919 Speaker 1: like you you watch the first episodes and they sort 1187 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: of drop you in to the middle of the story. 1188 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 1: It's about a little boy who is a gem and 1189 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: then his three like aunt figures who are also gems, 1190 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 1: and they protect the world. And it's like if you've 1191 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 1: seen sailor Moon, you you get the vibe almost immediately, 1192 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 1: and it just is so brilliant. How over the course 1193 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 1: of five seasons they layer in little bit by bit 1194 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 1: and you really you think you're watching a standalone show. 1195 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: You think you're watching sort of like an adventure time 1196 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 1: like nonsense, Like every episode is self contained and it's 1197 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 1: and it restarts and the steaks we started each episode. 1198 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 1: But you've slowly realized that this show is like building 1199 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: upon its own more until a point at which by 1200 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: the end of it it is one of It is 1201 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,440 Speaker 1: one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen. And 1202 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: there's a movie, and there's music. The voice talent on 1203 01:06:54,480 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 1: the show, Patty Lapone, Nicki Minaj Amy Man, this is crazy. 1204 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 1: A cell is one of the main voice actors, and 1205 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,439 Speaker 1: the show is queer as hell. There are so many 1206 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 1: trans allegories in it. There are literal lesbians on the show. 1207 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: Step and how do we watch the It's on HBO Max. Okay, 1208 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: I love that, know, And now you're talking my my 1209 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: language speaking go well, I was gonna say, speaking HB Max. 1210 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 1: I got to watch Space Jam two early what because 1211 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 1: to save our son, Joel, I screamed, you need to 1212 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: win this game and get our son back. I was, 1213 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 1: By the way, that is so Nicol Martin Green from 1214 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: Star Trek Discovery committing all the way. She's from the 1215 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Sarah Paulson's school of bad script and full commitments. She 1216 01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 1: serves every inch of this playing Lebron's life. So Space 1217 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 1: Gym two is pretty much exactly Space Gym one, but 1218 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 1: you drag and drop like all new references for the 1219 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 1: old one. So it's like the it's it's it's just 1220 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 1: it's it's just so funny because it's literally the same. 1221 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 1: But it was fun I guess, I mean. And the 1222 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: reason I watched it is because, and this is my 1223 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,639 Speaker 1: announcement to the readers, um, I'm gonna be hosting HBO 1224 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,760 Speaker 1: Max movie Club, which is a podcast presented by My 1225 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Heart and HBO Max, which is going to feature me 1226 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: and some special guests. Perhaps we're even looking at one 1227 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: um talking about movies that are on the HBO Max 1228 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: platform that are coming out that are classic movies on 1229 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: the platform. I'm actually doing. Um do you like Keanu Reeves? Okay, 1230 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 1: so maybe you'll come on from my Kiano episode that 1231 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing. Um. So they want to do an all 1232 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 1: key a new episode, so it's gonna be like Point 1233 01:08:55,479 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 1: Break Matrix speaking you know, all the girls that are 1234 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 1: on the platform. So maybe you'll come on from my 1235 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Kiano episode because I was gonna have Joe Kim on 1236 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: to talk about the movie Freaky because one thing I 1237 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 1: said to these people. So basically, it's like I'm watching 1238 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 1: all these movies and then hosting with comedian friends of 1239 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 1: mine or like you know, people from that that actually 1240 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: made the movie. It's gonna be really really cool actors, directors, whatever, 1241 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: and it starts very soon. Um. But I told them 1242 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 1: when they asked me to do the gig, I was like, 1243 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 1: just so you know, it's like a thing. I cannot 1244 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 1: watch scary movies, like oftentimes even suspense thrillers like I 1245 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: can't really get through because it makes me too anxious. 1246 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,560 Speaker 1: And I told them this and then they were like, 1247 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 1: it's fine, nothing on the list is too scary, and 1248 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,880 Speaker 1: then they go, okay, so week two is going to 1249 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: be freaky. Flashback to when you and I were at 1250 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Jared's house and you guys, I think, tricked me, like 1251 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 1: like by some bisexuals. It was always always, always in 1252 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 1: the plan, no specifically to watch well all all I 1253 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,719 Speaker 1: know is it was on for I think about forty 1254 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 1: five seconds before I left the house. I was like, 1255 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,840 Speaker 1: I cannot do this. You actually you were there for 1256 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 1: longer than forty five minutes. You got up and you 1257 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: second and behind the couch, behind the couch a distance away, 1258 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 1: several yards away, around a corner, and you watched the 1259 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,760 Speaker 1: opening uh scenes of Freaky from around a corner. I 1260 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,600 Speaker 1: got the funk out of there, despite the fact that 1261 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 1: both of them told me if you leave, we're gonna 1262 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 1: be really mad, and I was like, well, I'm it's 1263 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 1: it's worth it to get into fight with my friends 1264 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 1: then to sit here because I don't know what it 1265 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 1: is readers, I really and it's not like it's hasn't 1266 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 1: always been like this. I think just I just get 1267 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 1: really anxious watching scary movies. I don't know what it is. 1268 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,599 Speaker 1: And you're talking to someone who loves haunted houses. I've 1269 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 1: been skydiving, like I do quote unquote scary stuff. I mean, 1270 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm out here in the world, uh you know, and 1271 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 1: I just but I told him. I was like, I 1272 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 1: really can't dose scary movies. And then they were like, okay, 1273 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 1: well the second week is freaky, and I was like, okay, well, 1274 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 1: I know exactly who to get on someone that's seen 1275 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 1: the movie and watched what happened to me when I 1276 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: tried to watch it. But now that episode is postponed 1277 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: and they want to do a Kiano episode instead. So 1278 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear that you love Kiano because you'll 1279 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 1: come up and we can watch much of You About Nothing, 1280 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:24,840 Speaker 1: one of my favorite Kiana Reeves and it's complicated. Oh yeah, 1281 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,560 Speaker 1: little known Kanu vehicle. That would be really funny is 1282 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: if we did a Kiana Reeves episode, but we didn't 1283 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 1: do the Matrix or John Wick or any of his 1284 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 1: big nas. We did much Ado About Nothing, and it's 1285 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 1: and it's complicated. And this is like earlier in his 1286 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 1: career when he could like sort of and I say, 1287 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 1: this would love barely act and it wasn't like part 1288 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 1: of it yet. It was like there was like Kiano 1289 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,640 Speaker 1: in the beginning, like they were giving him rolls and 1290 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, he'll like learn to act, and 1291 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: then he never did and everyone was like, but now 1292 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,679 Speaker 1: it's part of it. But in the beginning of his career, 1293 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 1: I remember he was in Dracula and he says the 1294 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: word Europe like you rope, and it's iconic. I watched 1295 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,560 Speaker 1: it in high school and I loved it and I 1296 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,160 Speaker 1: love Kiana. So but anyway, it's great that I get 1297 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 1: to tell you all that I'm doing this podcast, which 1298 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 1: I hope you listened to as well. It'll be really fun. 1299 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 1: Of course, I am qualified to do this as someone 1300 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 1: who was once told by Bowen Yang that I maybe 1301 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,600 Speaker 1: should think about getting a letterboxed. So this is me 1302 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: now hosting um letter box. What is letterbox? I think 1303 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 1: it's just for for facts to sort of jump on 1304 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: and review ship. Okay, you know the reason I was 1305 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,599 Speaker 1: talking about this was because the first episode is Space 1306 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Gym two. That's why I was talking about it. So 1307 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 1: that's how I got to see Space Gem two early. 1308 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you found it. I'm so glad that 1309 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:57,160 Speaker 1: was sick. Back to this. So at this point in 1310 01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 1: the episode, about an hour and sixteen minutes is and 1311 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: is when I say Bowen, shouldn't we do? I don't 1312 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 1: think so, honey, and he usually says yes. So now 1313 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say to you ju Kim, should we do? 1314 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Um, yes, I guess. I'm 1315 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,640 Speaker 1: still I'm still unclear about what mine is gonna be 1316 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 1: again melatonin. I was asked to do this at the 1317 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: last minute. I'm in a cold, I'm in a weird headspace. 1318 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 1: Everybody has to just chill out. Everybody just chill out. 1319 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that you're going to get negative feedback 1320 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 1: for I don't think you possibly could. I mean, think 1321 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: about what a higher on you're doing. The movie, you 1322 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 1: got this show with Maya, you got um fucking you're 1323 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: You're You've survived the gay cold, You've got San Francisco 1324 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,559 Speaker 1: friends who are cooler than the ones you had before. 1325 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, so much is going well for you, and 1326 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,639 Speaker 1: you're also going to get to hear my I don't 1327 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: think so, honey, which, of course is going to happen first, 1328 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,639 Speaker 1: as it always does. You know, I don't think so honey. 1329 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 1: Yes is one minute sort of rampt really fevered manner 1330 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,759 Speaker 1: of speech where um Bowen and I and a guest 1331 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: and tonight Joel and I go off in quotes as 1332 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: the kids say, on an item of culture that we 1333 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,400 Speaker 1: don't like very much. And today I was talking to 1334 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: some gaye in a group threat and I realized that, Um, 1335 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 1: there's something in the culture that's been happening since the 1336 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,200 Speaker 1: beginning of live performance that I don't think, so honey, 1337 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 1: and so I'm thrilled to present it to you today. Okay, 1338 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,240 Speaker 1: Matt Rogers, I don't think so honey. Time starts now. 1339 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, standing ovations which sit the 1340 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 1: funk down. I cannot see over your fucking head, which 1341 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 1: is now so high. You need to get in your seat. 1342 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 1: That's why it's there. What is that good that you 1343 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 1: need to stand for? I don't think so honey, standing 1344 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 1: up and like clapping because guess what not everyone around 1345 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,240 Speaker 1: you wants to do that, and now you forced them 1346 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 1: to because it's custom. I don't think so honey. At 1347 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 1: the con Film Festival, whenever something is half good. It 1348 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,559 Speaker 1: gets a ten minute standing ovation. That movie a Net 1349 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 1: with Driver and Marion Cotillard. It was reported that it 1350 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,680 Speaker 1: got over six minutes standing ovation. Bitch Pierre's need to 1351 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,400 Speaker 1: sit the funk down? Okay, if I wanted to see 1352 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of racist clap I would go to a 1353 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,679 Speaker 1: fucking Toby Keith concert, which is a joke. I said 1354 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 1: and said group Chat today, which got zero likes, which 1355 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 1: is a bummer because I actually thought it was pretty 1356 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,839 Speaker 1: good and so were repeating it here on the podcast. 1357 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,679 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, standing ovations. I want to sit. 1358 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 1: My thighs hurt, my calves hurt, and most importantly, my 1359 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,360 Speaker 1: feet hurt. So I don't want to stand on him. 1360 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. And that's one. How do 1361 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,880 Speaker 1: you feel about that? I feel great about that. And 1362 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, I love I love when it's about culture, 1363 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, I love when it's of the culture. You know, 1364 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 1: you have a lot of notes when it's not. I 1365 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: do you know. I'm a purist. I think it should 1366 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 1: be something related to film television movies, dance. Dance is 1367 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 1: a big one film television movies, dance. Yeah, I agree, 1368 01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, what if someone slays a dance, 1369 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 1: you can stand ovation for them. But that's really all. 1370 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 1: But I think my I don't think so honey is 1371 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,560 Speaker 1: not going to be directly related to you're gonna go 1372 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 1: against your own rules. Well, you know I famously did 1373 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. When you far in, a 1374 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 1: little bit of calm comes out. Yeah, I remember you 1375 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 1: did that in front of my parents. Yeah, and that 1376 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 1: was one of my most iconic I don't think so honeys, 1377 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: and it did not pass me through to the Yeah, 1378 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 1: that was the iconic Readers. Some of you who have 1379 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 1: joined the process of listening to this podcast late and 1380 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 1: might not know that Bowen and I once didn't I 1381 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 1: don't think so honey competition at Clusterfest in San Francisco 1382 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 1: that was judged by Alaska thunder Fucking Drinks months soon, 1383 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,680 Speaker 1: and I thought they really flopped in their decision making 1384 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 1: when they did not pass through ji Ki and Booster, 1385 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: who said I don't think so honey. When you fart in, 1386 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of comm comes out in front of 1387 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 1: my father Richard, my mother Katrina, and my sister Chelsea 1388 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,719 Speaker 1: Ryan who speaking of standing ovations, your dad stood up. Yeah, 1389 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,720 Speaker 1: I think that. I think that they all really liked it. 1390 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm incredible with parents. Yeah, they love you. Um, and 1391 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,759 Speaker 1: I'll tell them that you said hello, even though you didn't. 1392 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,839 Speaker 1: I always say hello to Tina. Her name is Trina. 1393 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:18,640 Speaker 1: I know I'm kidding. I'm kidding coaching Tina, coach and Trina. Um. 1394 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 1: Joel thinks I'm from New Jersey more than he thinks 1395 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm from Long Island. I think he. I think he 1396 01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:30,680 Speaker 1: think right now. Yeah, okay, um, okay. So, on this 1397 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 1: episode of I Don't Think So Honey that has been 1398 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:38,280 Speaker 1: so kindly saved by Joel Kim, Um, I am honored 1399 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 1: to sort of flip the phone in his direction, um 1400 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 1: and press start for what will be a thrilling I 1401 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 1: don't Think so Honey from one of the best um 1402 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 1: robbed on the Clusterfest competition of I Don't Think so Honey, 1403 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,400 Speaker 1: and here he is everyone, It's Joel Kim Booster and 1404 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,519 Speaker 1: his I don't Think so Honey starts now. I don't 1405 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,720 Speaker 1: Think so Honey. Long text messages. I do not want 1406 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 1: to see a wall of text pop up on my phone. 1407 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 1: That little ding that my phone does it is for 1408 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 1: tiny little messages. Where are you b r B. What 1409 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: are you doing? You want to come over? That is it? Honey? 1410 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: If I have to scroll through my phone to read 1411 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: the entirety of the message, I don't think so, honey. 1412 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 1: Bring that wall down. Make it an email. Okay. If 1413 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 1: you have to put paragraph indentations in your text message, 1414 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 1: it is too long. Is I have to scroll? It's 1415 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 1: too long? If I even break it up, break it 1416 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,599 Speaker 1: up into smaller chunks. Even it's less aggressive to see 1417 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,720 Speaker 1: a smaller chunk of a text. These messages were not 1418 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,759 Speaker 1: meant to be long, Okay. I am like the fucking Jericho. 1419 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Bring the wall down, Mr Gorbachev. I do not want 1420 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 1: to see the wall. That is the quote, and I 1421 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 1: am leaving it there. Stop sending long test messages. Making 1422 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,880 Speaker 1: a phone call, and that's one minute. I disagree making 1423 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,760 Speaker 1: a phone call. I almost never want to get on 1424 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,720 Speaker 1: the phone. I don't like talking on the phone. But 1425 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,679 Speaker 1: but I will say this, you must love my texting 1426 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 1: because it's a lot of short things. Sometimes sometimes I'll 1427 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 1: just be like, I'll just like, if I were texting 1428 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 1: right now what I'm saying, it would be truly eight text. 1429 01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 1: Like the word like will be its own text for me. 1430 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,640 Speaker 1: So I'm really happy that that. I love seeing a 1431 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 1: cluster of of of white. I love or blue. I 1432 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,559 Speaker 1: love seeing a cluster. I love seeing a cluster of white. 1433 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 1: Joel Kim Booster, fresh off of vacation, drag him. I 1434 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:45,519 Speaker 1: love seeing a cluster of white. That um cluster of white. 1435 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 1: Has good news ever been communicated in a long text message? Edifying? 1436 01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,240 Speaker 1: Ever been? Ever been? It's usually someone who's like, I 1437 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,400 Speaker 1: just want to be honest with you. Whenever I'm sending 1438 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 1: a a a something over text, it all has to 1439 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 1: be one because I don't want to give them the 1440 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to interject. So I think that's why you see 1441 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 1: a long text message happened because I want all the 1442 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 1: information to come out before I get sort of derailed, sidetracked, misunderstood, 1443 01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:24,040 Speaker 1: um by someone interjecting mid text. But so I think 1444 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 1: that's why you sort of may receive like an email 1445 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 1: times them from people don't defend him? Is this maybe 1446 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 1: there is this what happened a couple of hours ago? No? No, no, no, 1447 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,680 Speaker 1: that was professional. Oh well, I'm I'm trusting that you 1448 01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,160 Speaker 1: figured it out. Yeah, you have to meet people where 1449 01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:48,439 Speaker 1: they are period. Um. Well, listen, I've learned a lot. 1450 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,760 Speaker 1: I feel we did exchange words on the culture. I 1451 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:57,519 Speaker 1: have to say that this was edifying, educational. You taught 1452 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 1: people about um what did teach about before? Again, I 1453 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not know its tone in bitch listen. 1454 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,360 Speaker 1: I feel like you didn't make a catch phrase with me. 1455 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 1: I feel like you didn't use any of the catch phrases. 1456 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,680 Speaker 1: We did so many rules of culture. I feel like 1457 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 1: you didn't say you understand. I feel like you didn't 1458 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,880 Speaker 1: say you didn't create, You didn't create new vernacular with 1459 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,400 Speaker 1: me like that, dragging me. I think that this episode 1460 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 1: is gonna be one of the best. I think people 1461 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 1: are going to be like wow, to know to know 1462 01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 1: what what the girls are capable of when tragedy befalls, 1463 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,400 Speaker 1: and let me just say what happened to Bowen? Bowen 1464 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,439 Speaker 1: is often the Dominican Republic for reasons I don't think 1465 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,639 Speaker 1: I can disclose, but but they're good reasons. They're very 1466 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,760 Speaker 1: cool reasons, and good reasons. Um and wouldn't you believe it, 1467 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 1: the WiFi at his hotel in the d R not 1468 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: so great, and so he sort of hopped on and 1469 01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:53,720 Speaker 1: we sort of got very um uh sort of bow 1470 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 1: and Yang is frustrated energy with the with the WiFi, 1471 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I'm just gonna nip 1472 01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,400 Speaker 1: this in a bud right now and calls one that 1473 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 1: I know at least was available before because they asked 1474 01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,639 Speaker 1: me to hang out, and that was you, Joe Kim. 1475 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that I did, because not only 1476 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 1: did I get to spend time with my sister, but 1477 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,280 Speaker 1: I got to provide the readers with an excellent episode 1478 01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 1: hosted by co mosted by one of our great minds. 1479 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,560 Speaker 1: Can I tell you a story really quickly that the 1480 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Dominican Republic just reminded me of because our friend, our 1481 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 1: friend Bowen isn't the Dominican republican the Jamaican Republic, and 1482 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 1: one of my friends, Sandra Bolick, is also in the 1483 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:38,280 Speaker 1: Domaican Republic right now, and she somehow is now friends 1484 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 1: with one of our mutual friends who listened to Iowa 1485 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Debury's podcast Iconic Class, where she listened to my episode 1486 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:52,519 Speaker 1: of UM where I talk about Sandra Bolick and texted 1487 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,280 Speaker 1: her a breakdown of what I said in the episode 1488 01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,160 Speaker 1: and whether or not it was right or wrong, all 1489 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,719 Speaker 1: the questions I asked about Sandy and the one negative 1490 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 1: thing I said about Sandra Bullock. The one negative thing 1491 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 1: I said, I said, the only bad things Sandra Bullock 1492 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,519 Speaker 1: has ever done is the millions millions. She should not 1493 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: do voice over work. And she said, in response to that, 1494 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 1: your friend Joel is absolutely correct. I fall apart in 1495 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,400 Speaker 1: the booth, and I've never done it all apart in 1496 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:23,280 Speaker 1: the booth. See that is so shocking at me. You 1497 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,400 Speaker 1: think she'd come alive in the booth. No, she needs 1498 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,600 Speaker 1: another person there. I see it for her, I see it. 1499 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,599 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna say this about myself. I come 1500 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,479 Speaker 1: alive in the booth. I do too. I love the booth. 1501 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,479 Speaker 1: I love the booth. I think the booth is a 1502 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 1: great place. I think the booth is a place of 1503 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 1: great opportunity. So color me shocked to hear that Sandra 1504 01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 1: Book doesn't like the booth. But maybe she just loves 1505 01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 1: the camera just like it loves her. You know, she 1506 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,320 Speaker 1: she loves the camera. I think she loves the tactile 1507 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,479 Speaker 1: nature of acting. She's always touching something, you know. I 1508 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: think that's the problem. I think that's the problem. Yea. 1509 01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 1: And what she's touching is our hearts, you know what? 1510 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,400 Speaker 1: You know what she has that in common with you, 1511 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,200 Speaker 1: and you were able to reach through the screen. Big 1512 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:13,600 Speaker 1: things coming, Jolie, Big things can't wait. I've got a 1513 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. I I got a lot of big 1514 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 1: things waiting for me around New York City. Oh. I 1515 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 1: hope that's not um a euphemism. But I also I 1516 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 1: hope that's not it's not. I just I have a 1517 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 1: lot of belongings that I have left over the city 1518 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 1: in various storage units. Okay, well, Um, I'll suggest some 1519 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 1: people to help you pick those things up. Uh, Joel Kim, 1520 01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 1: we end every episode with a song, and I want 1521 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,679 Speaker 1: you to know that last week we sort of iconically 1522 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,720 Speaker 1: ended with only Hope by Mandy Moore. I remember, um, 1523 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,160 Speaker 1: and so I would sort of like to And that's 1524 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,040 Speaker 1: the reason we did that is because we mentioned her 1525 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 1: during the episode, and so I'd like to sing the 1526 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,680 Speaker 1: classic tune. Wait, wait, you have to name cousin of 1527 01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 1: the week. Oh oh oh. The cousin of the week 1528 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 1: is really tight between three people. Okay, the cousin of 1529 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 1: the week is tight between Danielle stab for Um appearing 1530 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,720 Speaker 1: in the Erica Jaye documentary and claiming to know information 1531 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,480 Speaker 1: that we're not sure that she knows, and also resembling 1532 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,760 Speaker 1: a Long Island sort of Tristate area girl that I 1533 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,680 Speaker 1: know and and and this is the lost Coach, so 1534 01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,800 Speaker 1: I do get to sort of make the decision. And 1535 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 1: then the next nominee is um Google and bat Raw 1536 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,519 Speaker 1: because we don't really know what to do with her, 1537 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,639 Speaker 1: but we know we want her around at all times, 1538 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,880 Speaker 1: and she is a welcome presence, not a sister, not 1539 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,559 Speaker 1: a mother, no, something in the in the in between. 1540 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,840 Speaker 1: And the third nominee for Cousin of the Week is 1541 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:54,640 Speaker 1: of course Hailee Steinfeld because we always love speaking of her. 1542 01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 1: She got accolades from her family and beyond for doing 1543 01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:00,920 Speaker 1: a goofy act and we're in a big hat and 1544 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 1: riding a horse, which you know if a cousin does 1545 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 1: that in the family, it's the most hilarious thing, especially 1546 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,400 Speaker 1: when she's a cute girl voted for Trump and we 1547 01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:16,400 Speaker 1: end every episode with a song He'm gonna She's a 1548 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:25,840 Speaker 1: cousin of the week. Yeah. Any time we do not 1549 01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,120 Speaker 1: have confirmation that Helly's find pubbled for Trump, it's a 1550 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 1: vicious rumor and that that will starting, that it will 1551 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 1: exist in Hollywood history. Goodbye, Goodbye,