WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Blacula

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Joe McCormick. Today we're bringing you an older episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Weird House Cinema. This was our feature on the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two tragic romantic horror classic Blackula, directed by

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<v Speaker 1>William Crane starring William Marshall. This episode originally aired on

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<v Speaker 1>February two, twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy, Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production

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<v Speaker 2>of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey you, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Rob Lamb and I am Joe McCormick. And

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<v Speaker 1>today on Weird House Cinema, we are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the nineteen seventy two tragic romantic horror film Blackula.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, so this is in a sense another Dracula movie.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get into that in a bit, and I'm generally

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<v Speaker 3>down for any Dracula film. We've covered various Dracula movies

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<v Speaker 3>already on Weird House Cinema. Most recently we talked about

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy two's Dracula Ad nineteen seventy two, in which

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<v Speaker 3>the Count awakens in contemporary London. Today's movie is also

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<v Speaker 3>a nineteen seventy two release, and it also centers around

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<v Speaker 3>a vampire prints awakening in the contemporary world, only this

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<v Speaker 3>time it's Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Los Angeles? I kept thinking that the exterior

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<v Speaker 1>shots looked like LA, But then I would see, like

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<v Speaker 1>there was a scene at the police station where in

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<v Speaker 1>the background, I'm pretty sure they had a map of

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<v Speaker 1>Staten Island on the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I didn't notice that. I believe the movie when

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<v Speaker 3>it told me it was Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Well wait, did the movie even say it was LA?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't remember that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, our character, doctor Thomas, supposedly works for the Los

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<v Speaker 3>Angeles Police Department.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, then, oh, maybe he's just like a Staten

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<v Speaker 1>Island map hobbyist.

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<v Speaker 3>That's up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but you know what. So this movie

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<v Speaker 1>had been on my radar for many years, but I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen it until you picked it for the show. Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I really liked it, But second, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very different movie than I imagined. I think because the

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<v Speaker 1>title is a pun and because I understood it to

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<v Speaker 1>be part of the black exploitation wave, I had always

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<v Speaker 1>expected it would be more of a satirical horror comedy

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<v Speaker 1>that it would be sort of a satirical take on

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<v Speaker 1>American culture from a black perspective, using some using like

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<v Speaker 1>vampire themes to get across some of its like comedic observations.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's really not a comedy at all. Instead, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a I think, very serious and very effective, tragic,

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<v Speaker 1>romantic horror film.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and it's interesting it. We'll be discussing this

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<v Speaker 3>a bit, like the degree to which that transformation seems

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<v Speaker 3>to have taken place, because I think the studio initially

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<v Speaker 3>envisioned something that was more of a comedy and was

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<v Speaker 3>more of a more satire and was just about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>given the audience a good time. But this was transformed

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<v Speaker 3>by at least two of the key individuals involved, if

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<v Speaker 3>not more.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I have to say the comparison to Dracula nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two AD is hilarious because multiple things. So, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I think Blacula is a much better film

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<v Speaker 1>than that. But the other thing is that we kept

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<v Speaker 1>joking in that episode that Dracula in nineteen seventy two

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<v Speaker 1>a D did not really put Dracula in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two a D. He was almost like he just hangs

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<v Speaker 1>out in and abandoned church the whole time, and then

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<v Speaker 1>victims are brought to him, so he never encounters modern

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<v Speaker 1>culture or anything like that. And we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>potential for realizing, you know, Dracula as a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>fish out of time character who's running into all of

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<v Speaker 1>the texture of the modern world and having friction when

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<v Speaker 1>interacting with it. You could expect that that Blacula could

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<v Speaker 1>be like that as well, but really there is not

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<v Speaker 1>much fish out of time about it at all. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time our our vampire hero arrives in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two, he's like the coolest person in nineteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like more at ease and at home than anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who just normally lives their life here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, Black Youa is a very well

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<v Speaker 3>known film in the history of horror and vampire movies

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<v Speaker 3>and certainly has a has its place in the history

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<v Speaker 3>of black cinema. So like yourself, Yeah, I've been familiar

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<v Speaker 3>with it for a long time, but I'd never taken

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<v Speaker 3>the time to actually sit down and watch it. And

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<v Speaker 3>and part of, you know, part of that was, like

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<v Speaker 3>I assumed it was more of a comedy, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't sure how it might have aged, how it

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<v Speaker 3>was received, and what his legacy was, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not everything that is often categorized into the broad label

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<v Speaker 3>of black exploitation is worth a revisit. But I just

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<v Speaker 3>kept seeing more film creators, more artists, more historians, especially

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<v Speaker 3>artists and historians of color, singling it out for its strengths.

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<v Speaker 3>One such artist is Rodney Barnes, an American screenwriter and

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<v Speaker 3>producer whose writing credits include Everybody Hates Chris, The Boondocks,

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<v Speaker 3>and also the TV series Winning Time on HBO. He

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<v Speaker 3>was also apparently and he has an additional crew credit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm blade. I'm not sure what he did on that,

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<v Speaker 3>but still in nice vampire connection. But I picked up

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<v Speaker 3>his twenty twenty three graphic novel Blacula, Return of the King,

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<v Speaker 3>illustrated by Jason Sean Alexander, and it's really fun. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a modern sequel to the film Blacula, reawakening our central

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<v Speaker 3>Prince character once more in contemporary Los Angeles and on

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<v Speaker 3>a collision course, this time with his vampiric maker. It's

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<v Speaker 3>really again, really good, really fun, and it includes an

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<v Speaker 3>extended intro in which Barnes describes being a horror fan

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<v Speaker 3>as a kid and being at the time mostly dependent

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<v Speaker 3>on a diet of hammer horror films which featured predominantly

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<v Speaker 3>white casts and never a black vampire. So he mentions

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<v Speaker 3>like seeing the ads for the first time. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he says that he saw them during the commercial breaks

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<v Speaker 3>for a Soul Train and he was instantly excited. As

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<v Speaker 3>a child, he was like, you know this, this is

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<v Speaker 3>something different. This is here. Here is a case where

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<v Speaker 3>I get to see like a black vampire character in

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<v Speaker 3>a film. So black Yela the movie called to him

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately helped inspire him to become a creator himself. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he acknowledges that the film has its flaws,

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<v Speaker 3>but that its power was undeniable. Now, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>throw into one quick note about the language of the film.

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<v Speaker 3>While the film is rated PG and doesn't really contain

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<v Speaker 3>anything objectionable in terms of gore or sexuality, we should

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<v Speaker 3>stress that a homophobic slur is used at least a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of times, one instance by a key protagonist, and

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<v Speaker 3>once in a really unnecessary and hurtful way. It certainly

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<v Speaker 3>ding's enjoyment of the film, especially since there's so many

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<v Speaker 3>captivating elements of the picture otherwise, so I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>single that out. I was reading a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>about this in The Dracula and the Blacula nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 3>two Cultural Revolution by Lemon and Browning. This was published

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<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and nine's Draculas, Vampires and Other Undead

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<v Speaker 3>Forms Essays on Gender, Race, and Culture. And this article

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<v Speaker 3>makes the case that we also see efforts in the

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<v Speaker 3>movie at challenging homosexual stereotypes, just as the film challenges

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<v Speaker 3>stereotypes of black and African characters, though the authors here

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledged that the film fumbles in this and ultimately quote

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<v Speaker 3>encourage stereotypes and bigotries concerning homosexuality more than they challenged them.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just wanted to throw that out there in

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<v Speaker 3>case anyone was looking to pause the podcast go watch

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<v Speaker 3>the film. I think it's just a good heads up

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<v Speaker 3>to have. All Right, well, at this point, let's go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead and have a little trailer audio. The actual trailer

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<v Speaker 3>for the film is a bit long, but we were

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<v Speaker 3>able to dig up the radio spot here. I love

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<v Speaker 3>a good radio spot, so let's listen to the original

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<v Speaker 3>radio spot for Blackula.

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<v Speaker 4>You Shall Black Prince. I pressure with my name, you

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<v Speaker 4>shall be black Cula, Blackcula, the black avenger rising from

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<v Speaker 4>his tomb to fill the night with horror.

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<v Speaker 5>Blackcula, tracula soul brother, deadlier even than he Blacula. He

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<v Speaker 5>first for your blood, he hung less for your soul,

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<v Speaker 5>more horrifying than Draccular, the Black of anger. Blackcula, an

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<v Speaker 5>American International really rated PG. Parental guidance suggested.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, of note that voice you heard at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>that is the voice of Count Dracula, as we'll discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>M You know, that raises another way in which this

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<v Speaker 1>movie I think is different than what some people might

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<v Speaker 1>assume going into it, which you might assume of the

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<v Speaker 1>premise is what if Count Dracula were black, but instead

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<v Speaker 1>our black vampire prints in the movie is very much

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<v Speaker 1>set in opposition to Count Dracula, Like Count Dracula is

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<v Speaker 1>still the villain.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, absolutely complete and utter villain, but then also

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<v Speaker 3>one that will not factor into the film directly after

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<v Speaker 3>after just a few minutes into the film, really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he disappears after like three or four minutes in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. All right, Well, if you're intrigued, if you're interested

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<v Speaker 3>in watching this one on your own, before proceeding with

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the episode. It's pretty widely available. We

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<v Speaker 3>watched it on the twenty twenty three Blue from Sandpiper Pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>It's bare bones, doesn't really have anything in the way

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<v Speaker 3>of extras, but the quality is great. We rented it

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<v Speaker 3>from Video Drum here in Atlanta, though I believe it's

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<v Speaker 3>also streaming on Prime and other sources. So again, you

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't have any problem getting a hold of this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get into the people who made this film,

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<v Speaker 3>starting at the top with the director. William Crane born

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen forty nine, American director in UCLA Film School graduate,

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<v Speaker 3>best remembered for this film and thus his contributions to

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<v Speaker 3>black cinema of the seventies and more broadly, the horror

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<v Speaker 3>genre itself. Prior to Blacula, he'd worked in TV. He

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<v Speaker 3>directed a nineteen seventy one episode of Mod Squad, though

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<v Speaker 3>he apparently worked as an uncredited intern director on the

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventies Sydney Quadier movie Brother John, which also features

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Winfield. But anyway, after Blacula, he continued to direct

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<v Speaker 3>episodes of such TV series as Starsky and hutch Swat

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<v Speaker 3>and The Rookies, before returning to the world of black

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<v Speaker 3>centric horror films with nineteen seventy six is Doctor Black

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Hyde, starring Bernie Casey in the lead roles.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'd be interested to see that one too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I saw a bit from an interview with

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<v Speaker 3>him where he said he had more freedom in that one,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm interested to read more about it, see how

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<v Speaker 3>it was received, and potentially watch it now. Afterwards, he

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<v Speaker 3>directed episodes of The Dukes of Hazzard, Matt Houston, and

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<v Speaker 3>Designing Women. There are a lot of interviews with him

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<v Speaker 3>out there. I ran across one from a This is

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty twenty one interview on WBBM News Radio with

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Ramsey. He says, AIP, that's American International Pictures. They

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<v Speaker 3>were doing exploitive movies. The rumor was they were in

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<v Speaker 3>the red and so they were going to do a

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<v Speaker 3>black vampire movie. I happened to be in the right

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<v Speaker 3>place at the right time. The original concept was Count

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<v Speaker 3>Brown's in Town. It was this Shuckin' and jivin and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to do it, but they hired me

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<v Speaker 3>to do this movie. William Marshall said, let's just make

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<v Speaker 3>this straight.

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<v Speaker 1>So William Marshall is the actor who plays Memo Walde,

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<v Speaker 1>the main vampire in the movie, And yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>in line with what I've read that he was a

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<v Speaker 1>big force in reimagining the movie as a more serious

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic project.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, according to Lemonon Browning in that article, I decided

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<v Speaker 3>when he came on board to star in the picture,

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<v Speaker 3>he insisted on certain changes to Mamalwalde's character and wrote

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<v Speaker 3>or rewrote key scenes concerning Memalwalde's eighteenth century mission to

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<v Speaker 3>Europe as well as his connection to his wife Luva.

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<v Speaker 3>So he seems to have been heavily involved in the

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<v Speaker 3>choices that made this film notable.

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<v Speaker 1>But by emphasizing the tragic romance at the core of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to undersell the horror elements of this

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<v Speaker 1>film now because, to come back to Crane's approach to

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<v Speaker 1>it as a horror film, I think the scary scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>though it's not wall to wall scares, the scary scenes

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<v Speaker 1>are quite effective. There are some extremely creepy shots in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, like it does a thing a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times where a character like a monster, a vampire character

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<v Speaker 1>is just directly approaching the camera, So the camera is

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<v Speaker 1>at a fixed position and the vampire is just gliding

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<v Speaker 1>straight into your face. And I don't know, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of shot that I think of is very

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<v Speaker 1>common in horror films. But even though it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it would be, I don't know why it's not. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's very effective here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, you can imagine these scenes really sizzling on

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<v Speaker 3>the big screen in front of a packed house. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's worth noting that this film was quite a success

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<v Speaker 3>and certainly played an important part in sort of paving

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<v Speaker 3>the way for additional black horror films that came out afterwards,

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<v Speaker 3>though we should also note this was not I think

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes this is described as the quote first black horror film,

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<v Speaker 3>which is not the case. There were earlier examples of this.

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<v Speaker 3>The credited right on this are Joan Torres and Raymond Koenig.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have dates for them. I don't think dates

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<v Speaker 3>are available, though I believe Joan Torres at least is

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<v Speaker 3>still still around. This and the nineteen seventy three sequel

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<v Speaker 3>Scream Blacula Scream are their only credits. Joan Torres has

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<v Speaker 3>a website, Joan Torres dot com, which details her additional

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<v Speaker 3>work as a playwright and a novelist. Given the subject

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<v Speaker 3>matter the film, it's notable that neither of the credited

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<v Speaker 3>writers was themselves black, But again, the film's black director

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<v Speaker 3>and black lead evidently further crafted the screenplay in this

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<v Speaker 3>more serious direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Just wanted to note you mentioned the sequel Scream, Blacula Scream,

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<v Speaker 1>which does also have William Marshall in it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about the reputation of that movie, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to note it does have Pam Greer in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the reason to watch true.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, let's come back to William Marshall again.

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<v Speaker 3>This is our star who plays Prince Mama Walde, the vampire.

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<v Speaker 3>William Marshall lived nineteen twenty four through two thousand and three. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the star of this picture and just an irrefutable central

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<v Speaker 3>force in the making of the film. What it making

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<v Speaker 3>the film what it is bringing dignity, power and complexity

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<v Speaker 3>to a character that otherwise could have unlikely would have

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<v Speaker 3>been a much more shallow exercise in vampire horror. Marshall

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<v Speaker 3>was an American actor, director, and opera singer with impressive

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<v Speaker 3>credits across stage, screen and TV. He studied at the

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<v Speaker 3>Actor's Studio in New York and was I believe had

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<v Speaker 3>some opera training. I'm not as informed about his career

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<v Speaker 3>regarding opera, but he performed on Broadway in the late

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<v Speaker 3>forties and early fifties, and he played the title role

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<v Speaker 3>in Othello in both the US and Europe. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty one production of A Fellow with him in

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<v Speaker 3>the lead role that was filmed and I believe is available.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised to hear that he was an opera

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<v Speaker 1>singer because he has an absolutely magnificent voice, just a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful bass, like a I'm trying to think, what's the metaphor,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a ship sailing through smooth Is this just

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<v Speaker 1>like an amazing voice. It is the kind of voice

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<v Speaker 1>that every time he speaks, people just turn and listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's captivating. So his TV credits, he has a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of TV credits, include a second season episode of

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<v Speaker 3>The original Star Trek. This one was titled The Ultimate

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<v Speaker 3>Computer in which he played a brilliant human computer scientist.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he may also be a familiar face from

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<v Speaker 3>his later years for some of you because he played

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<v Speaker 3>the King of Cartoons on Peewee's Playhouse, according to his

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<v Speaker 3>New York Times obit. In nineteen eighty three, he appeared

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<v Speaker 3>in a one hour, one man show for PBS called

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<v Speaker 3>Frederick Douglas, Slave and Statesman, and he adapted this for

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<v Speaker 3>the theater as inter Frederick Douglass, which he performed for

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<v Speaker 3>many years. And yeah, he has a whole bunch of credits.

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<v Speaker 3>I did note that on the old nineteen eighty Spider

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<v Speaker 3>Man cartoon he voiced both the Juggernaut and Tony Stark,

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<v Speaker 3>whoa in cinema. His other credits include nineteen fifty four's

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<v Speaker 3>Demetrius and the Gladiators, nineteen seventy three sequel Screen Blackula,

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<v Speaker 3>Scream of Course, the nineteen seventy four zombie movie Abby,

0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.760
<v Speaker 3>seventy seven's Twilight's Last Gleaming, and nineteen ninety four's Maverick.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, yeah, he's absolutely commanding in this role. You

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<v Speaker 3>can see how he was such a powerful force on

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<v Speaker 3>the trajectory of this film as well, first of all

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<v Speaker 3>in pushing for these changes, and secondly, according to Crane

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<v Speaker 3>in that interview, I was looking at in being able

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<v Speaker 3>to deliver on those changes in such a way that

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<v Speaker 3>as the dailies or the raw footage was rolling in

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<v Speaker 3>from the filming the studio like they just followed suit.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't fight it because they saw that it was

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely working, all right. So moving on to the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the cast, we have a dual role here of

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<v Speaker 3>Tina and Luva, which we'll get into what that means

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<v Speaker 3>here in a bit. But these characters are played by

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<v Speaker 3>Vanetta McGhee, who lived nineteen forty five through twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 3>American act who'd been in several films prior to this,

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<v Speaker 3>including the Italian western The Great Silence. Her subsequent films

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<v Speaker 3>included nineteen seventy three as Shaft in Africa and Detroit

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<v Speaker 3>nine thousand. In nineteen seventy five, she was in The

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<v Speaker 3>Eiger Sanction opposite Clint Eastwood. I believe that was She's

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<v Speaker 3>like second build on that. She's in nineteen eighty four's

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<v Speaker 3>Repo Man in nineteen nineties to Sleep with Anger, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>now playing Tina's sister in nineteen seventy two. The sister's

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<v Speaker 3>name is Michelle, played by Denise Nicholas born nineteen forty four,

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<v Speaker 3>American actress with extensive television credits, including an episode of

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<v Speaker 3>Night Gallery Love American Style, Different Strokes, The Love Boat,

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty nine episodes of In the Heat of the Night.

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<v Speaker 3>Her film credits include seventy seven's capricorn I, nineteen nineties

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<v Speaker 3>Ghost Dad, in two thousand's Ritual. She won a nineteen

0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.240
<v Speaker 3>seventy six NAACP Image Award for her role in Let's

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<v Speaker 3>Do It Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a big part of Michelle's role in

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<v Speaker 1>the plot is we have to have somebody who is

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<v Speaker 1>skeptical of the vampire stuff, because Tina ultimately is going

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<v Speaker 1>to become wooed by the power of Memo wall Day,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, she ultimately is like, yeah, Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a vampire because I love you. The character we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to talk about, doctor Gordon Thomas, he's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning is like, I think a vampire could

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<v Speaker 1>be responsible for these killings. So Michelle is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the one who's like, I don't believe this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do not want to go dig up a grave tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So let's get to doctor Gordon Thomas

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<v Speaker 3>because he's essentially the Van Helsing character yes of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the investigator, the human hero.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he is played by Thalmus Rassulula. He lived

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty nine through nineteen ninety one American actor with

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<v Speaker 3>extensive TV credits going back to nineteen sixty including Perry Mason,

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<v Speaker 3>The Original Twighlight Zone, All in the Family, Mission Impossible,

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<v Speaker 3>Sanford and Son, The Jefferson Kojak, The Incredible Hulk. He

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<v Speaker 3>also shows up in an episode of Star Trek The

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<v Speaker 3>Next Generation, playing the character Captain Donald Varley. Also notable,

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<v Speaker 3>he pops up on a nineteen seventy five episode of

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday Night Live, specifically in a skit titled Exorcist two

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<v Speaker 3>in which he plays Father Marrin.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that the implied comedy of this skit is

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<v Speaker 1>how ridiculous it would be to make a sequel to

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<v Speaker 1>the Exorcist. But then just a couple of years later,

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<v Speaker 1>they literally did yeh of.

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<v Speaker 3>Note that episode of Saturday Night Live was hosted by

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<v Speaker 3>Richard Pryor, you know, the great stand up comedian, and

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<v Speaker 3>the musical guest was a legendary Gil Scott Heron. Reportedly,

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<v Speaker 3>Pryor only agreed to host the show if both of

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<v Speaker 3>these men were involved, so they were like handpicked. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do it. You got to bring in gil Scott

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<v Speaker 3>Heron and you got to bring in Thalmus to be

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<v Speaker 3>in this skit with me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really effective in this movie. And he has a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thankless role to play because William Marshall's character

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<v Speaker 1>gets to be the vampire, gets to be the tragic

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<v Speaker 1>prince and at the center of this tragic love story,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas Gordon Thomas Thomas Roussoula's character has to be hunting

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<v Speaker 1>him down and doing so in a like. The character

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<v Speaker 1>is written as an irascible and business oriented man. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's not fun, and yet it is fun watching the

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<v Speaker 1>character do what he does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think it's a really solid performance. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like he's a grumpy but smooth Van Helson character. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, this is a minor character. But I also

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<v Speaker 3>want to call out that Jaitu Kombuka is in this

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<v Speaker 3>playing the character Skillet. Skillett is a bit comic relief

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<v Speaker 3>character who really likes Memwalde's Kate. Yes, but it's a

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<v Speaker 3>memorable brief bart. He lived nineteen forty through twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a main cast member on the Spice series

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<v Speaker 3>A Man called Sloan with Robert Conrad and Dan o'hurlehay.

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<v Speaker 3>He was in Roots's. His other credits include Doctor Black,

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Hyde, nineteen seventy one's Brian Song, seventy six is

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<v Speaker 3>Bound for Glory, eighty five Brewsters Millions, and nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 3>nine's Harlem Knights.

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<v Speaker 1>This character appears multiple times to admire Memolde's cape and

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<v Speaker 1>to comment that he has one strange dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's his sole purpose here. All right. We mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>that Dracula is in this movie, and we'll discuss the

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<v Speaker 3>way Dracula is envisioned in this film here in a

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<v Speaker 3>bit in more detail. But Dracula here is played by

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<v Speaker 3>Charles McCauley, who lived nineteen twenty seven through nineteen ninety nine,

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 3>an American actor of stage, screen, and TV, whose earliest

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<v Speaker 3>film role is an uncredited part in Roger Corman's horror

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:51.480
<v Speaker 3>comedy Creature from the Haunted Sea nineteen sixty one. We

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<v Speaker 3>haven't watched this one on Weird House, but it's often

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<v Speaker 3>considered part of a trilogy of horror comedies that Corman did,

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<v Speaker 3>along with Bucket of Blood and The Little Shop of Horrors.

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<v Speaker 3>McAuley also worked with Corman, credited, this time in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>sixty two's Tower of London. His filmography features a great

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<v Speaker 3>deal of mainstream TV work, along with various entries in

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<v Speaker 3>the horror genre. On TV, he appeared on two episodes

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<v Speaker 3>of The original Star Trek, thirty five episodes of Days

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<v Speaker 3>of Our Lives, He was on Mission Impossible, Night Gallery, Colombo,

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<v Speaker 3>and much more. In film, his credits include sixty eight's Head,

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<v Speaker 3>seventy twos, Twilight People, seventy four's The House of Seven

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<v Speaker 3>Corpses seventy five is the Hindenburg Airport seventy seven, and

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<v Speaker 3>he played the President of the United States in the

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty four Mermaid comedy Splash, which just I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen Splash in a while. Watched it a lot as

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<v Speaker 3>a kid, but now I'm just imagining, like President Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, I've never seen it, but now there's a

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<v Speaker 1>treat waiting for me.

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<v Speaker 3>If I ever get there. Oh yeah, I remember it

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<v Speaker 3>as being fun. More on Dracula in a bit, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is. It's a very memorable Count Dracula. Yeah. This

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<v Speaker 3>is just an aside, I guess mostly for people who

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<v Speaker 3>were big into like the history of stunt work and

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<v Speaker 3>or grappling and so forth. And pro wrestling. But one

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<v Speaker 3>of Dracula's henchmen is played by Jean LaBelle, who lived

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty two through twenty twenty two. Noted grappler, judo practitioner,

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 3>pro wrestler, stunt man. He pops up in a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things, often in just like really small roles.

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<v Speaker 1>It is funny in this movie that Dracula just has

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<v Speaker 1>wrestlers working for him, Like he calls out his wrestlers

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<v Speaker 1>and they've got the you know, the Lacey cravats on,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're just like these beefy.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, all right. Get a few credits from behind the

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<v Speaker 3>scenes here. Sandy DeVore is the title designer on this

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 3>film who lived nineteen thirty four through twenty twenty American artist,

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 3>graphic designer, and title designer who worked with some big

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<v Speaker 3>recording artists of the day, including Sammy Davis Junior, and

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<v Speaker 3>went on to create title sequences for such TV shows

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<v Speaker 3>as The Partridge Family. We've actually seen some of Sandy

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<v Speaker 3>Devorre's work on Weird Howse Cinema before, because he did

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the excellent title sequence four The Dunwich Horror, which had

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<v Speaker 3>a very similar style only instead of like red black

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<v Speaker 3>and white, it was like blue and black.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I really like the title design in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of a like an animated bat chasing a

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<v Speaker 1>red outline of a woman around in this abstract landscape

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<v Speaker 1>that almost looks like you've zoomed in a lot on calligraphy,

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<v Speaker 1>and the figures are trying to navigate in the spaces

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<v Speaker 1>between the bars of the letters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, it's really cool and it's like a nice

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<v Speaker 3>I like how it breaks up the film too, because

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<v Speaker 3>we have a very heavy opening and then we get

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<v Speaker 3>this fun title sequence before Trent's pourting to the modern

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<v Speaker 3>day of nineteen seventy two. And I'll also add that

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<v Speaker 3>there's an excellent website called artofthetitle dot com and they

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<v Speaker 3>have multiple examples of Divorre's work, including the intros to

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<v Speaker 3>Blacula and the intro to The Dunwich Horror. He also

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<v Speaker 3>did one on a nineteen sixty nine film called DSAD.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a Row Roger Corman film starring Kerr Dooley

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<v Speaker 3>as the Marquis de Sade. Also has John Houston in it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also like similar style and also very amusing

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<v Speaker 3>to watch the composer on this film on Blackula is

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<v Speaker 3>Gene Page, who lived nineteen thirty nine through nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 3>American composer and record producer. He also did arrangements on

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<v Speaker 3>tracks for some of the biggest musical acts of the

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<v Speaker 3>time period. He has something like fifteen hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>five writing and arrangement credits on discogs what including Yeah,

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 3>it's like this man works a lot working with artists.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even list them all, but just as a

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<v Speaker 3>brief overview, people like Barry White, James Taylor, Michael Jackson, Cher.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems to be the main main work that he did.

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<v Speaker 3>This is his most well known film score out of

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<v Speaker 3>only a handful of score composition credits.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the music in Blackula, and it works I

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<v Speaker 1>think on every level. Like there's i'm just non diegetic

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>background music that you know, it brings the right horror ambiance.

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>But then there is also plenty of funk in the movie,

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and then even some diegetic on screen band performances that

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<v Speaker 1>are fantastic as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we're going to discuss them in just a second,

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.679
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I all agree, absolutely wonderful score. It's funky

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 3>and soulful, blazingly upbeat in places, but it also does

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 3>get into that what I like to think of is

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 3>like the horror jazz night gallery zone as well, tweaked

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 3>with some synth weirdness in places. It really drives on

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 3>the creepy moments. Now, the musical performances that you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>these are performances by the Hughes Corporation. They were a

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<v Speaker 3>pop and soul trio, best known for a hit that

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<v Speaker 3>would come out a couple of years later in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy four, Rock the Boat. I mean, I don't even

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 3>have to humme it. You all know it. You've all

0:27:56.600 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 3>heard Rock the Boat. At the time of Black consisted

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 3>of Saint Clair Lee who lived nineteen forty four through

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven. This is the vocalist with the headband H. M.

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Kelly born nineteen forty seven, and Carl Russell. I believe

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 3>he left the group after the movie, but also maybe

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<v Speaker 3>returned later during a time period when they got back

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 3>together again. I'm a little foggy on how all that works,

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<v Speaker 3>but they are a lot of fun in their performances

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 3>in Black Law.

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<v Speaker 1>They get at least two on screen musical performances in

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the film, or are there even more.

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 3>They have at least three tracks on the soundtrack. There's

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 3>There He Is Again, which we'll talk about in a bill.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, wonderful. There's What the World Knows, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a more soulful, romantic number, and then I'm Gonna Catch You,

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 3>which is also a really fun song. It's like a

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<v Speaker 3>cheating heart song, but it's really good.

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>There He Is Again is my favorite because it's it

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<v Speaker 1>can the lyrics can be read as a song about

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<v Speaker 1>a vampire.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely like it if you're not analyzing the lyrics

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 3>too closely, like, yeah, yeah, of course it's about Mamawaldi,

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>it's about this vampire. I also note there are two

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 3>tracks on the soundtrack by the twenty first Century LTD.

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 3>This is or I guess I would say twenty first

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 3>century limited heavy changes and main chance. These are both

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 3>romantic numbers, and I honestly can't remember how they're integrated

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>into the film or you know, to what extent they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're ready to talk about the plot, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we open on the exterior of a castle on

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<v Speaker 1>a darkened, stormy night. Rain pours down, battering the castle towers,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and bolts of lightning cut through the darkness, and a chiron.

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<v Speaker 1>Text on the screen says Transylvania seventeen eighty Castle Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>So we cut inside the castle to an ornate dining

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<v Speaker 1>room illuminated by candles and a roaring fireplace, and Count

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Dracula is here and he is hosting a pair of

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<v Speaker 1>guests after what seems to have been some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>international diplomatic function meeting with dignitaries. Now, this Count Dracula

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<v Speaker 1>is not exactly of the Bela Lugosi variety. He has

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<v Speaker 1>like longer hairs, kind of grayish brown in color, and

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<v Speaker 1>a goateee. He's wearing a black and gold coat over

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<v Speaker 1>a blue vest with a frilly white cravat, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is immediately unlikable, smarmy palpably untrustworthy, and we will soon

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>come to realize racist he is. He's at first kind

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of superficially friendly to his two guests, and the guests

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<v Speaker 1>are Prince mam U Walde and his wife, Princess Luva,

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<v Speaker 1>who are royalty from what is initially an unnamed African country,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will later learn that they are from the

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<v Speaker 1>Ibani nation in the northeast of the Niger Delta. Memoalde

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<v Speaker 1>is dressed in a dark suit with a powder blue cravat,

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and Luva is wearing a beautiful, elaborate multicolored dress with

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>beadwork jewelry. So they've just seemingly finished a meeting with

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>an array of diplomats and heads of state from around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and Dracula is pouring cognac all around. Memoalde

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and Luva explained to Count Dracula that they're here for

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a reason. They are on a mission to gain international

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<v Speaker 1>allies in support of what seems to be a treaty,

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>a treaty to do what well. Luva pulls out a text,

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a document to present to Count Dracula, and he reviews it,

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and then he recoils from the document in disbelief. Apparently,

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>this treaty that they're pursuing would bring about the cessation

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>of the international slave trade. Dracula doesn't like this idea.

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>He counters that. He says, surely slavery has merit, and

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Memoalde raises an eyebrow. He asks how one would find

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<v Speaker 1>in barbarity, but Dracula says, well, slavery may be barbaric

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>from the point of view of the slave, but it

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>holds lots of appeal to the slave owner, and then

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>he transitions to making revolting comments with sexual overtones about

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>how it would in fact be appealing to him to

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>own luva.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the overt racism of Dracula is quite fascinating here.

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I think the film delivers the vibe in a way

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 3>that a mere summary doesn't really capture. But yeah, this

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Dracula is, in many respects presented, is almost a kind

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 3>of He's almost the institution of slavery incarnate. You know,

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 3>it's all done in a few short scenes here, but

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, he dismisses objections to the practice on economic

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 3>and sort of this is the world grounds, but quickly

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 3>slides into it increasingly overtly racist rhetoric before directly provoking

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Mamma Walde by offering in cruel jess to buy his wife.

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 3>And this then quickly transcends into physical assault, separation, murder,

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 3>and a curse that transcends human lifetimes. And we also

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 3>see his aristocratic mass completely slip from again from this

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>like snide aristocrat to just absolute evil, cruelty and hunger.

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So at the beginning of the exchange, Dracula is

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>condescending and smarmy, but it's interesting to see how it

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>just flips to overt hostility as soon as he is

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>faced with something he disagrees with. So, of course Mamowalde

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>won't tolerate this shocking behavior from Dracula, but he keeps

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>his composure. He rises from his seat and he gathers

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Luva and says that they are leaving, but the evil

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Count will not allow it. He summons his minions, his

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>hinchman to take hold of them, and then violence breaks out.

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Memowalde puts up a valiant fight. He uses like improvised

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>weapons from the room. I think he grabs a torch

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>off the wall, and then one of the henchmen grabs

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a saber off the wall and they fight there in

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>front of the fire. But eventually Miawalde is outnumbered and

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>overpowered by the Count's fighters, and eventually we see the

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Count's side including not just like the muscly wrestlers the

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>stuntman we were talking about earlier, but like a whole

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>coven of looming ghouls and these wheezing hooded blood drinkers,

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and this whole group approaches Prince Mama Welde and then

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Dracula exposes his neck and bites.

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 3>It's all very well done, but I will note that

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 3>one of the vampires in that scene does look to

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 3>be an actual, actual, actual vampire from the apple she has.

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.280
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like wide eyed and big, big fangs,

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 3>But that's still it doesn't doesn't attract from the sequence.

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>But it goes onto a horrifying escalation here. So there

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>is an interment scene. Luva and Mama Welde are walled

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>up in a secret room in the castle where Dracula

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to doom Luva to die of thirst and

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>starvation in the room, while Mamo Walde is locked inside

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a coffin to transform into a vampire and forever yearn

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>for blood that he cannot have. And here Dracula he

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>places a curse. He says, quote, I shall place a

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>curse of suffering on you that will doom you to

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a living hell. A hunger, a wild, gnawing animal. Hunger

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>will grow in you, a hunger for human blood. Here

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you will starve for an eternity, torn by an unquenchable lust.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I curse you with my name. You shall be Blacula,

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a vampire like myself, a living fiend. You will be

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 1>doomed never to know that sweet blood which will become

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>your only desire. And then slam slam shut the coffin door.

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.919
<v Speaker 1>They pad lock it, and they close the wall, and

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the curse to Mamowalde and Luva are left trapped in

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>this room forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's heavy stuff, and it's also worth noting here

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 3>like this. We hear the name Blacula here, and we'll

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 3>hear an echo of this later. But Mama Walde never

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 3>in this film self identifies as Blacula, Like this is

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 3>the name uttered by Dracula as he curses him.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, now, it might seem curious why Dracula is portrayed, Robin,

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I bet you picked up on the same thing. He's

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>portrayed not just as being cruel to them, but specifically

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:27.240
<v Speaker 1>as having an orientation of vengeance. He is vengeful towards

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Mamma Walde and Luva, and they've done nothing whatsoever to

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>harm him, Like there's no reason for him to be vengeful.

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>But I think it fits. It goes with the theme

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>like this is a common posture of racism, like vengeance,

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a feeling of need for vengeance in response to nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's a great point. I want to

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 3>again mention that Macaulay is really great in this sequence.

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 3>He continues to lay on Dracula's evil very effectively, and

0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 3>I love the way that they made him up, so

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 3>blood dripping from his lips after he has fed on

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Mama Walde and he's taunting Luva, but is also draining

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 3>from his eyes, you know, like he's like he's he's

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 3>a vicious beast that's so fatted on blood that his

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 3>body can't contain it all anymore, and it's just kind

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 3>of leaking out of every orifice. And yeah, it's just

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:20.240
<v Speaker 3>brutal stuff.

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and I think the blood running out of

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the eyes, to me, it is a visual signal to

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>convey hate. Do you get the same thing?

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 3>I think?

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<v Speaker 5>So? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go to the credits, and again I

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>love the design of the credits. There's groovy modern music.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>There's the animated bat chasing a woman around in the

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:42.280
<v Speaker 1>abstract landscape. It's very cool. After the credits, we return

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to Dracula's castle, but it's the present. Dracula's house is

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>undergoing an estate sale, and we've got a couple of

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:53.799
<v Speaker 1>wholesale antique buyers from America who are here too. They're

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>about to sign the paperwork to buy everything from the castle.

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>The two antique dealers are the character's Bobby McCory and

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Billy Schaeffer. And these are the characters I think you

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.399
<v Speaker 1>alluded to earlier, rob who are portrayed as very stereotypically gay.

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Apparently they don't find out until the last minute that

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>all of the stuff they're about to buy belonged to

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Count Dracula. The seller is worried that this is going

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>to endanger the deal and gives them a discount. But

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>do they really need one, answer is no, because the

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Dracula thing is a bonus to them. Bobby says, where

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>we come from, Dracula is the Krim de la crim

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 1>of camp. We're going to get a fortune for these things.

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the guy here was worried about, you know, about

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 3>about having a deal with a Dracula refund or a

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Dracula discount. He should have been he should have been

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.399
<v Speaker 3>adding to the price. He should have been asking more

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:47.760
<v Speaker 3>for all this Dracula stuff.

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Billy also says that he has seen all of Dracula's movies,

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's interesting that it, like, what is

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the understanding of Dracula in the world of this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what it seems to be. First of all, in

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>this movie, vampires are real. Count Dracula was a real

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>historical vampire in the late seventeen hundreds, though some modern

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>characters believe he was just a myth. And this character

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is separate from Vladim Paler who lived in the fifteenth century. Also,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>in this universe, Dracula exists as a character known in

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>horror films and stories. Presumably the novel Dracula exists.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting to tease all this apart. Rodney Barnes

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 3>in the in blacular Return of the King, the way

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 3>he kind of treated it was okay, Mama Walde had

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 3>knew that this Count Dracula had there were some rumors

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.919
<v Speaker 3>about him about how he might be connected to this

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 3>earlier tyrannical figure, but he just dismissed it as myth. So, yeah,

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 3>there are multiple layers of fiction and history and fictional

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 3>history that you have to juggle in this scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also portrays the historical figure Count Dracula in

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the late seventeen hundreds as having been an influential player

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 1>in international politics, because like the reason Luva and Mama

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Walde are going to his castle is to get his

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>support for trying to get allies for an international treaty.

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 1>So he's not just seen as like, you know, a

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>reclusive figure of mystery. This is like somebody who has

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>influence over the affairs of state.

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he is not an evil in the background of

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Europeans aristocracy. He is in the forefront, which which I

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 3>think is key here. But anyway, he's long dad at

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 3>this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right. In fact, the guy at the estate

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>sale mentions how Dracula died.

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he says, you know, don't worry about him. It

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 3>was all over hyped anyway, and Van Helsing destroyed him

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and fifty years ago. So it's interesting, you know,

0:40:56.200 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 3>we're set to encounter a reawakened mamal Wal in a

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 3>world where his greatest adversary is him is himself long destroyed,

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 3>but the legacy of his crime still resonate.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So while going around with the seller, Bobby and Billy

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 1>in the castle here discover an undisturbed coffin in a

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>hidden room behind a wall, and we see, we the

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>audience know that this is the room where Memo, Wilde

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and Luva were buried alive so they add the coffin

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to their haull and we see it brought back to

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>the States via cargo ship. And here we get some

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of fish out of time texture, so

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>we see modern streets and traffic and it's set to

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>a funk soundtrack. Get some you know, wuah wah guitar,

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and then we see Bobby and Billy get the coffin

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:49.320
<v Speaker 1>back to their warehouse and Billy is discussing the idea

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>of using it as a guest bed at their house.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I like this idea.

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Bobby is doubtful, though, He's clearly doubtful of this idea,

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, okay.

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>So they start trying to open the stuff. But before

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Bobby can get the coffin open, I think he breaks

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>off the lock, but he doesn't open it yet. At

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the other end of the room, Billy cuts himself while

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>prying at the lid of another crate, and it seems

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the smell of fresh blood stirs something inside the coffin,

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and so while Bobby and Billy are not looking, the

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>lid creaks open and Mama Walde, now transformed into a vampire,

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>begins to rise.

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is our first real shot of the awakened

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 3>prince Man Wwalde facing the camera, Dracula's curse audibly resonating

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 3>in his mind. Pretty haunting stuff.

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Right, So he rises from the coffin and he he

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>looks almost confused, like he's he's changed now, but he's

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:47.839
<v Speaker 1>torn between his conscious horror at his fate and his

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>immediate thirst for blood. Like the you know, his conscious

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 1>mind is fighting the vampire within him, and here might

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>be a good place to discuss memo. Walde's two looks

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>as a vampire. So sometimes basically, when he's not about

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to bite someone, he just looks like himself. He looks

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like the regular Prince Mamuelde from before. But when he

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>goes into vampire mode, when he is about to bite

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>someone or transform into a bat or something, he grows fangs,

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>of course, but he also grows an interesting pattern of

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 1>facial hair where it's like his eyebrows become very bushy

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and they sort of connect to the hair on his temples,

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 1>and his mustache grows out longer, and he gains these

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 1>sharply sculpted sideburns, and there's a redness added to his eyes.

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>He has a different look when he is about to

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>behave more like a predatory vampire, and the fact that

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.439
<v Speaker 1>there is this physical transformation is almost a bit werewolfy.

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I like the visual transformation because it coincides with the

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>dual nature of Mamouelde the vampire, so he hasn't been

0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 1>changed into just a demon of pure evil. Most of

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the time he is simply like himself, like he was

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>before the change, and even in the form of even

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:12.200
<v Speaker 1>as a vampire, Mema Waldey is shown to be a

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:16.240
<v Speaker 1>good and moral man. He is thoughtful, kind, suave, even

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>tempered charming. But when he goes into vampire mode, he

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>thirsts only for blood and it is almost like a

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>werewolf transformation.

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:25.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 3>I think the pronounced widow's peak he develops when he's

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 3>in full vampire mode in hunger mode is key. And

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 3>I think the real take home here is if someone

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 3>you know you suddenly encounter them and they have a

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 3>pronounced widow peak that extends further down than their hairline

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 3>originally was, then you need to run because that person

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 3>has become a dracula of some sort.

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>So Memo Walde bites and drains Billy and Bobby there

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 1>in the antique warehouse, and next we go to a

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 1>scene at a funeral home where we're going to meet

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>our other main characters. So Bobby's body is lying out

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 1>for it's lying out in the coffin for visitation, and

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>somehow Mima Walde is there like he's looking on from

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 1>behind a curtain at the back of the room, and

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 1>slowly we see Bobby's hand begin to move from its

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>resting place and grip the wall of the coffin, but

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>then Bobby stops moving when the living approach, and our

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>living characters are Michelle this is Denise Nicholas we mentioned

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>her earlier. Michelle's co worker and romantic partner, doctor Gordon Thomas.

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:39.919
<v Speaker 1>This is Thelmas Resulola. We get Michelle's sister, Tina, who

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>is played by Vanetta McGhee, the same actress who played Louva.

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>And so Michelle and Tina are visiting Bobby because they've

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>known him since childhood. And at first, Tina is wearing

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.879
<v Speaker 1>a hood covering her face when she comes into the room,

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>but there's a reveal moment. She pulls it back to

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:02.240
<v Speaker 1>reveal her face and Mamma Walde sees her and he whispers.

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Luva, the hood is almost too much because I initially

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 3>thought she was gonna be some sort of sorceress or

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 3>cult member or something, but we quickly learned that she's

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 3>just very stylish.

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I would say, by and large, all of the

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>modern costumes in this movie are awesome. Like everybody's clothes

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>look really cool. I was gonna mention this later, but

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>like essentially everything Thalmas rasulil awares looks awesome. He has

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>this great collection of coats and jackets. He has this

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 1>cool like a herringbone blazer, and he has a double

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>breasted jacket he wears later that looks really cool, often

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>paired with a turtleneck. He's got a great look. But Michelle,

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Michelle and Tina also have really cool clothes. Absolutely, and

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I would put the sorceress hood and cloak in that

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>category as well. I think it looks great. You know,

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>people should dress like sorcerers more often. So anyway, Tina

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and Michelle, they're confused about what happened to Bobby. His

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 1>death doesn't make any sense, and they're asking Gordon if

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>he can get any answers for them, because Gordon is

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>not just any boyfriend of Michelle. Gordon is some kind

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 1>of science cop. We've talked about science cops on a

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 1>weird House before. He is a forensic investigator. We're later

0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>told he works for the Scientific Investigation Division I suppose

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>of the police, so it seems I think he's supposed

0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to be a medical doctor at Core, but he works

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>as a forensic investigator. So after Tina and Michelle leave,

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the funeral director is there alone with Gordon, and he explains,

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I worked very hard on that neck wound, trying to

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 1>make it look as natural as I could so it

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be offensive to his loved ones. The flesh was

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>just torn right out in a big chunk. I've never

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 1>seen a rat bite that size, and Gordon says rat bite.

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.320
<v Speaker 1>He wants to know how deep was the wound before

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it was repaired, and the funeral director says two or

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 1>three inches at least. Gordon his radars pinging. Something is

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 1>seeming off to him, and he's perplexed by what he sees.

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 1>So a rat bite in the neck two or three

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>inches deep. He starts looking at other things about Bobby's body.

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>He notices that the body is drained of blood, even

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>though the funeral director says that no embalming has taken place.

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Gordon points out that the veins collapse under pressure. Why

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 1>would he have been drained of blood? Gordon decides he

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.799
<v Speaker 1>wants to see the body of the other victim. But

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 1>the other victim, Billy, is not at his funeral home.

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:38.919
<v Speaker 1>He was white and he was sent to a white

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:43.879
<v Speaker 1>funeral home, the funeral director tells us, So our investigator

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>is now on the case. He can tell something weird

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>is up. We cut to Michelle and Tina walking outside

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the funeral parlor and they split up because Michelle is

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>going to go visit Bobby's family. Tina is tired and

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>she wants to go straight home. And while walking alone

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>on the sidewalk at night, Tina starts to become uneasy.

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Something doesn't feel right. She picks up the pace. She

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:10.240
<v Speaker 1>glances around nervously. Then suddenly she comes round a corner

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and runs straight into Mamma Walde. And he's not in

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>vamp mode here, but he is in a full vampire costume,

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 1>which he pretty much always wears, so he's in his

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>dark suit. He's got the cravat, and he's got this

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>trailing black cape and he addresses her hopefully at first,

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 1>saying luva, but Tina doesn't know what he's talking about.

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>She tries to back away and he takes hold of her.

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>He says, Luva, it's me, but she doesn't know him.

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 1>She screams let go, and he does. She runs away

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 1>in a panic, and she drops her purse in a

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>pedestrian underpass tunnel and Mema Walde follows and picks up

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>the pocketbook. He's still looking around for where she went

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>when suddenly he is hit by a cab.

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I also want to just mention really quickly William Marshall

0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 3>a very physically imposing actor as well. I think he

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:03.440
<v Speaker 3>was like six five, so that's notable in all of

0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 3>these scenes where he is either perceived as a threat

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 3>or is an active threat in vampire mode.

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>That's right, and he is about to change from pining

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 1>for his lost love to thirsting for blood because he

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 1>was hit by a cab. The cab driver gets out,

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and this is a character named Juanita. She is sort

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>of vulgar and starts scolding Memo Walde, telling him that

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 1>chasing Tail could get him killed. Mema Walde is very frustrated.

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>He says, I lost her because of you, and they

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:36.239
<v Speaker 1>trade insults and after she hurls some disrespected him. We

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>suddenly see a change come over him. He needs blood

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:43.279
<v Speaker 1>once again, and he transforms into vampire mode and bites her.

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Now later, Tina makes it back home. She has to

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 1>use a hidden spare key to get into her apartment

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.439
<v Speaker 1>because she lost her purse in the tunnel and she's

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:55.800
<v Speaker 1>extremely rattled. Michelle comes home and Tina confesses what happened.

0:50:56.160 --> 0:51:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Michelle says, maniacs are running in the streets. And meanwhile,

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:03.800
<v Speaker 1>mim Waldey goes back to his coffin in the antique

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>warehouse dejected. He's broken by the fact that his louver

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 1>ran away from him. Now, the next day we see

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Gordon Thomas on the case. The doctor is paying a

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 1>visit to the city Morgue to check out the body

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 1>of a cab driver found dead the night before, and

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>here we meet a minor character, Sam the morgue worker

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>played by Elisha Cook Junior, who is a character actor

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you've probably seen in lots of stuff. In this movie,

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>he plays a surly mortician with a hook for a hand.

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He lived nineteen oh three through nineteen ninety five,

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:39.240
<v Speaker 3>probably best known for such films as The Maltese Falcon

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 3>the Killing House on Haunted Hill and Rosemary's Baby. I

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 3>found an image here for you Joe from nineteen forty

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 3>four's Phantom Lady, in which he's pulling this shocked face

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 3>that I'm pretty sure he pulls at least once in

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:53.400
<v Speaker 3>this movie.

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>It's his signature. Look, it's his blue steel.

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 3>He's like, oh, and then inevitably he's about to be

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 3>murdered or has discovered a murder, or is about to

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 3>be killed by a monster.

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or in these movies from the forties and fifties,

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>he just saw a skeleton.

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>So Sam leads Gordon inside. They pulled the victim out

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 1>of the freezer. Sam's just kind of like gabbin at him,

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>so Gordon has to get him to leave, leave him

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.359
<v Speaker 1>alone so he can investigate. And what do you know,

0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:24.359
<v Speaker 1>He finds bite marks on the victim's neck. This cab

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 1>driver was also bitten, just like Bobby. So we know

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 1>what he's thinking, and we see him reacting to his

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.919
<v Speaker 1>own thoughts. He laughs and says to himself, come on, now,

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:38.399
<v Speaker 1>that's ridiculous. But he's still he has to pursue this lead.

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>So Gordon goes to consult with police lieutenant Jack Peters.

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Gordon says he needs reports on the post mortem examinations

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 1>of both Bobby and Billy, the first two victims, but

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the department bureaucracy is giving him the run around while

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:55.800
<v Speaker 1>he's been looking for these reports, and eventually they admit

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 1>that the reports seem to have been lost. They don't

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 1>know where they are, and Gordon says, strange, how many

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 1>sloppy police jobs involve black victims. Peters, who is a

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 1>white police commander, seems to suggest he's like, hey, what

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>if all these neck bite murders were caused by the

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:16.360
<v Speaker 1>black panthers? Think about it? And Gordon is like, get real.

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.720
<v Speaker 1>So Peters promises they will keep looking for the info

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:24.280
<v Speaker 1>that Gordon needs, and he puts a cop named Watson

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 1>on the job. Gordon explains that if they find the reports,

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.799
<v Speaker 1>he'll need them brought by the club tonight because he's

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be at the club tonight with Michelle celebrating

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 1>her birthday. Oh and we also see here Gordon wants

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to do an autopsy on Bobby, so he calls the

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>funeral home and says that he's going to send some

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:52.240
<v Speaker 1>cops over after closing to collect the body. So next

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:55.359
<v Speaker 1>comes the club scene, a scene that is great for

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>multiple reasons, one of which is the awesome performance by

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the house banned the Hughes Corporation, who we already mentioned earlier.

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>But this is a full musical number. We get to

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 1>see the entire song, full band playing. There are three

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:15.439
<v Speaker 1>lead singers like a singing ensemble in the group, and

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 1>they are awesome dancers. They each have their own like

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>solos and all that. The song is called There he

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 1>is again, and the Hughes Corporation just rocks. I thought

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the song was killer as we I think we said

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>this earlier, but it sounds like the lyrics could be

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 1>about the vampire in the film. So the lyrics are like,

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 1>there he is again looking at me from across the street.

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 1>There he is again, making my heart skip another beat.

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 1>There's some line in there, oh well. The chorus is

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 1>look the other way when he comes by you. There's

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:48.239
<v Speaker 1>one part where they're talking about how they think he

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 1>can read your mind. There's a line where he says,

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I know he thinks I want his love so much.

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I love the levels of mental simulation in that.

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is my favorite of the Corporation tracks. And

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 3>if I haven't mentioned it already. The combined score and

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 3>soundtrack is widely available on music streaming platforms, so you

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 3>can definitely dip in and get a taste of this.

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 3>It originally came out on vinyl as well, but I

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 3>don't think it's benefited from one of those awesome modern

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.880
<v Speaker 3>vinyl restorations, which which seems like a missed opportunity.

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this is truly great stuff. It doesn't just

0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like work in the movie. I'd love to just put

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 1>this on anytime. So anyway, Gordon, Michelle, and Tina are

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:33.320
<v Speaker 1>at the club. They're celebrating Michelle's birthday and Mama Welde

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 1>arrives and at first it's like, oh no, But then

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:41.719
<v Speaker 1>he meets with Tina and maybe she's a little apprehensive

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 1>at first, but he very kindly returns the purse that

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 1>she dropped the night before, and she rethinks her initial

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:53.800
<v Speaker 1>impression of him, and Tina then surprisingly invites Mama Welde

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to join them at their table. And this is not

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>vamp mode Mama Welde, obviously, this is evening attire Mama

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:05.320
<v Speaker 1>wall Day. He is super charming, at the absolute height

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of debonair sophistication. Now it's been kind of a running

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:13.360
<v Speaker 1>theme so far that Gordon, despite being our hero in

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a way, he is somewhat brusque and anti social. He

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't exactly play nice with people. He's not polite. The

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 1>more charitable way of putting this that is that I

0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>think he's very like task oriented and most of the

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 1>time he's all business.

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, and sometimes ruffles and feathers for sure.

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But his sort of anti socialness comes through in

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 1>this scene as well, because Mama Walde sits down and

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:42.359
<v Speaker 1>tries to order French champagne, and Gordon is like, that

0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:46.239
<v Speaker 1>won't be necessary, but then the ladies overrule him, so

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:47.800
<v Speaker 1>they do get the champagne service.

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Now. Side note, this is another scene in a film

0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 3>where they're sipping champagne from coop glasses, you know, from

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 3>wide glasses as opposed to flutes. I really need to

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 3>dive into the history of a pro we're at glass

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 3>wear for Bubbley, because I've seen that. I feel like

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:05.760
<v Speaker 3>we've seen this in some films we've watched on Weird House.

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 3>In HBO's The Gilded Age, which is set in the

0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 3>eighteen eighties, they're also drinking all their champagne out of

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 3>coop glasses or something very close to a coup glass,

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 3>and I feel like I've always heard that that argument

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh no, you want a narrow glass because

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 3>you know the way the bubbles form, and so forth.

0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like coop blesses for Champagne have come in

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and out of fashion over time.

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 3>It would seem to be. But my main area of

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 3>research on this is seeing it in movies that sometimes

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:36.040
<v Speaker 3>have vampires in themselves.

0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know well anyway. One interesting thing about the

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:42.960
<v Speaker 1>scene is that I had expected Mama Welde would be

0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 1>more coy about who he is and his relationship to Tina,

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:51.520
<v Speaker 1>but instead he comes right out and tells, Tina, you

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 1>bear in You bear an amazing resemblance to my wife,

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 1>whom I lost a short while ago. I loved her

0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:00.080
<v Speaker 1>very much. When you left the mortuary, I had to fall.

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't consider that I might frighten you so leading

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>with you look like my beloved dead wife. And just

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>judging by the way she looks back at him, I

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:15.600
<v Speaker 1>think Tina is already over whatever apprehension she had previously.

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 1>She is charmed.

0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Now. Yeah, the film will stress this later, but it's

0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 3>definitely worth noting that she is charmed. But not bewitched.

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:27.960
<v Speaker 3>We see either and perhaps sometimes both in different vampire movies.

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:32.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, sometimes a Dracula figure or a vampire lord

0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:35.960
<v Speaker 3>figure is definitely controlling people and overwhelming their senses. Other

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 3>times it is more of a I guess, a pure

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:42.480
<v Speaker 3>charisma role. So, yeah, he is not controlling her, and

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 3>their connection across time would seem to be legitimate.

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:50.439
<v Speaker 1>That's right, And she seems to imply in a later

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 1>scene that maybe she feels this is true as well.

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:55.280
<v Speaker 1>But I guess we'll get there in a few minutes.

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 1>So first of all, there's a cutaway to the funeral

0:58:57.760 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 1>home where we mentioned that the cops were going to

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 1>go collect Bobby's body. But when they get there, they

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>like throw open the lid to the coffin in the

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:08.760
<v Speaker 1>visitation room and the body is missing. Gordon gets a

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 1>call at the club reporting this. He has to like

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>go up to the bar and take a phone call,

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and then for some reason, when he comes back to

0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the table for Michelle's birthday party, he shares the news

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that Bobby's body is missing, and Mama Walde says, perhaps

0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't dead. At Gordon is like, what does that mean?

0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:30.560
<v Speaker 1>He was dead? I examined him myself, and Mama we

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Alde says just a passing thought. But then we get

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the arrival of Skillet. This is the guy who keeps

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:41.000
<v Speaker 1>showing up to admire Mamaelde's cape and to say that

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 1>he's strange. But Mama Walde is suddenly driven away from

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the table because a photographer comes by, and as soon

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 1>as she snaps a photo of their table, Mamaulde stands

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>up and abruptly excuses himself, saying that it has been

0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a rare pleasure. Tina chases after him, and then near

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the door, she catches him to say that she wants

1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to see him again, and they promised to meet again

1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:10.400
<v Speaker 1>at the club the next night. But the photographer comes

1:00:10.480 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 1>it barges in one more time and takes a picture

1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:15.160
<v Speaker 1>of them a second time. This picture is just Mama

1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:18.680
<v Speaker 1>well Day and Tina, and this drives Mama well De away.

1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 1>He seems alarmed at having his picture taken. So here

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess we should describe what appears to be the

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:28.840
<v Speaker 1>photographer's business model. Maybe this is a thing that used

1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:31.080
<v Speaker 1>to happen. I don't know, but it seems what she

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:35.240
<v Speaker 1>goes around the club taking pictures of people, and then

1:00:35.360 --> 1:00:37.960
<v Speaker 1>she has a house right next door to the club,

1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and so she runs out of the club next door

1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to her house, develops the photos and makes prints, and

1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:47.560
<v Speaker 1>then brings the prince back to the club the same

1:00:47.680 --> 1:00:49.640
<v Speaker 1>night and sells them to people. Is that how you

1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:50.320
<v Speaker 1>understood it?

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I think so, yeah. I feel like this might be

1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:54.320
<v Speaker 3>something that would have been more clear to the audience

1:00:54.360 --> 1:00:57.520
<v Speaker 3>of the time. And I know, based on conversations with

1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:02.080
<v Speaker 3>my wife, who's a photographer, were you know, there were

1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:04.400
<v Speaker 3>all sorts of practices kind of like this back in

1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:06.840
<v Speaker 3>the day when you had to develop your film. There

1:01:06.880 --> 1:01:09.200
<v Speaker 3>was one in particular that I remember hearing that involved

1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:11.160
<v Speaker 3>like a zipline, Like they had to like take the photo,

1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:13.640
<v Speaker 3>get the film, zipline it down to where it was

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:15.520
<v Speaker 3>going to be produced. So there are all sorts of

1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:18.040
<v Speaker 3>things like that that had to occur given the limitations

1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 3>of film technology. Nowadays, you know, it's all digital and

1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:23.520
<v Speaker 3>so you have an entirely different model and everything moves

1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:24.120
<v Speaker 3>so much faster.

1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:26.840
<v Speaker 1>The only other way I could understand this is if

1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:29.520
<v Speaker 1>she's is if this is not her job and she's

1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:32.880
<v Speaker 1>just like a hobbyist photographer and taking pictures of her

1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:35.480
<v Speaker 1>friends and happens to live next door to the club.

1:01:35.640 --> 1:01:36.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:39.800
<v Speaker 3>How, but the real take home here is that it

1:01:39.840 --> 1:01:42.600
<v Speaker 3>gives us an excuse for a dark room scene, which

1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:44.280
<v Speaker 3>I absolutely love in my movies.

1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this is great. So she runs off next

1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:49.880
<v Speaker 1>door to develop the photos, and here we get a

1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:53.080
<v Speaker 1>vampire attack, and I think a very creepy one at that.

1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:55.560
<v Speaker 1>So she's in her house, she puts on a record.

1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Music is playing, but other than the music playing, it's

1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:03.920
<v Speaker 1>very still inside, and she's developing the photos and she

1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:07.680
<v Speaker 1>notices when looking at the negatives that Mama Walday is

1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:10.760
<v Speaker 1>missing from the pictures she took. So it's just like Tina,

1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:14.880
<v Speaker 1>they're embracing with no one. And then she peeks out

1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:17.480
<v Speaker 1>through the curtains of her dark room and suddenly Mama

1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Waldey's there in vampire mode, gliding frictionlessly directly toward her

1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:26.560
<v Speaker 1>fangs showing. It's a really scary moment.

1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely yeah, this is this is This is one of

1:02:29.480 --> 1:02:33.120
<v Speaker 3>two really good scares in the picture. This is probably

1:02:33.200 --> 1:02:33.800
<v Speaker 3>my favorite.

1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:36.440
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, this scene develops into a double scare.

1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:39.800
<v Speaker 1>No pun intended on develops with the dark one, but

1:02:40.240 --> 1:02:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a double scare because Shortly after this, a cop

1:02:43.560 --> 1:02:46.560
<v Speaker 1>shows up, because remember Gordon was supposed to get those

1:02:46.760 --> 1:02:49.800
<v Speaker 1>reports delivered to him at the club. So this cop

1:02:49.880 --> 1:02:53.640
<v Speaker 1>named Barnes appears to deliver the reports and he's in

1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the parking lot of the club and he sees at

1:02:56.160 --> 1:02:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the house next door a woman stumbles out of the

1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:00.800
<v Speaker 1>front door and she appears to be dying, so he

1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:03.160
<v Speaker 1>goes to help her. But when he picks her up

1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to carry her inside, fangs it's the photographer and she

1:03:07.280 --> 1:03:11.960
<v Speaker 1>has changed rapidly, so in the the way the mythology,

1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the vampire mythology works here, you can change and I

1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:16.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it seems like minutes.

1:03:16.600 --> 1:03:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's very viral.

1:03:18.880 --> 1:03:22.440
<v Speaker 1>So she vamps the cop and Gordon never gets his reports,

1:03:23.160 --> 1:03:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and he tells Peters as much. The next day at

1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the police station, Peters is mad about this. Gordon wants

1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to get permission to dig up Billy Schaefer's grave to

1:03:32.920 --> 1:03:35.920
<v Speaker 1>do an autopsy. Peters tries to get a permit for this,

1:03:36.000 --> 1:03:38.560
<v Speaker 1>but he can't, so then, in a very funny turn,

1:03:38.760 --> 1:03:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Gordon he explains to Michelle that they're just gonna have

1:03:42.320 --> 1:03:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to go and illegally dig up Billy's body. Themselves that night,

1:03:45.880 --> 1:03:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and Michelle is kind of resistant to this idea at first,

1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:51.400
<v Speaker 1>but he likes sweet talks her into it. He basically

1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:54.280
<v Speaker 1>he kisses her and he's like, come on, do it

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and she's like, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well we'll go violate the graveyard.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that night, while Gordon and Michelle are out

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<v Speaker 1>digging up a grave, Mama Walde comes and visits Tina's apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he couldn't wait to see her and he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to speak to her alone. They've been dying to

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<v Speaker 1>see one another again, and Tina explains her complicated feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>He frightens her, but also when he left the night before,

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to run after him. So he says he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to speak to her about something and she asks,

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<v Speaker 1>is it about your wife? And he says, you are

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<v Speaker 1>my wife. She says that's impossible, Mama al Day and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, and yet you believe it, and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like she does. She's a bit confused, but he explains

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<v Speaker 1>as if she is Luva reincarnated. He explains who they are,

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<v Speaker 1>that they come from the Abani people and were sent

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<v Speaker 1>as diplomats to Europe to gain allies who would support

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<v Speaker 1>their protest of the slave trade. And then Mama Walde says,

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<v Speaker 1>on that mission, I myself was enslaved, my wife murdered,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was placed under the curse of the Undead.

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<v Speaker 1>Our assassin was the vampire Count Dracula. Now Tina protests

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<v Speaker 1>that Count Dracula is a myth, he wasn't real, but

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Walde explains he was real. Quote as real as

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<v Speaker 1>I am now, as real as you are, and as

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<v Speaker 1>real as my need for you. You are my luva recreated.

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<v Speaker 1>So she asks again what he wants, and he says

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<v Speaker 1>that he wants her to rejoin him. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>spelled out exactly what that means, but it seems that's

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<v Speaker 1>understood as join him in undeath. Now she seems torn.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to, but she's afraid. She says I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he says, you must come to me freely,

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<v Speaker 1>with love or not at all. I will not take

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<v Speaker 1>you by force, and I will not return. I have

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<v Speaker 1>lived again to lose you twice, and he rises to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes to the door, but she stops him and

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<v Speaker 1>asks him to stay. They embrace. It seems she does

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<v Speaker 1>want to reach join him whatever the cost.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a pointed scene.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and it's emotionally complex because you can see

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<v Speaker 1>in his performance that when they embrace and kiss that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just that he loves her, it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>that he desires her, but there is a feeling of relief,

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<v Speaker 1>of like of a burden being lifted, and because, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>because he won't have to be like this alone. And

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<v Speaker 1>so meanwhile Gordon and Gordon and Michelle are doing their

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<v Speaker 1>grave digging. Gordon digs up Billy's grave in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night while Michelle holds a flashlight. They open

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<v Speaker 1>the coffin and what do you know, Billy pops up

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<v Speaker 1>a full vampire. He attacks Gordon. Gordon throws some really

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<v Speaker 1>good punches some haymakers, beats him up with a shovel

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<v Speaker 1>and stakes him. And now it seems Michelle and Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>have both seen the proof. They are definitely dealing with vampires.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no denying it now.

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<v Speaker 1>And Michelle is like, oh, all those books you've been reading.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently Gordon has been doing a lot of vampire research.

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<v Speaker 1>But Gordon quickly realizes that the other vampire victims will

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<v Speaker 1>also rise from their slumber and attack, including the cab

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<v Speaker 1>driver at the morgue, So he calls Sam from a

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<v Speaker 1>payphone that Sam was what's his name? Elisha Cook Junior

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<v Speaker 1>calls him from a payphone and tells him to take

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<v Speaker 1>her body out of the freezer so he can come

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<v Speaker 1>and perform an autopsy with Peters, but also to leave

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<v Speaker 1>her in a locked room, lock the door, and stay away.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Gordon goes to pick up Peters to show

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<v Speaker 1>him the evidence of the vampire menace. What's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, there is a vampire attack, So vampire Juanita

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<v Speaker 1>rises from her frozen slumber to attack Sam.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is another really well done vampire attack sequence.

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<v Speaker 3>The music is really great. This is this is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a creepy, unusual shot where the door opens

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<v Speaker 1>and we see from Sam's perspective, he's like at the

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<v Speaker 1>phone in the hall and she's running directly at the

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<v Speaker 1>camera in slow motion, just eyes wild, fangs out.

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<v Speaker 3>You can imagine this whole sequence playing really well in

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<v Speaker 3>the theater too, because you get that moment where he

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<v Speaker 3>almost he has the keys out right, He's almost gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do it. He's almost gonna gonna lock the body in

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<v Speaker 3>the room, but then the phone rings. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like you can imagine like the energy in the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, no, no, So back at Tina's apartment, we

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<v Speaker 1>see Tina and Mama weel day in bed and she

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<v Speaker 1>expresses a desire to join him, but he says that

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<v Speaker 1>can wait now. He has to leave before daylight because

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<v Speaker 1>daylight would be fatal to him, and she tells him

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<v Speaker 1>that she loves him. Gordon and Peters arrive at the

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<v Speaker 1>morgue and they are attacked by the vampire. But Gordon,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the he knows what to do now. He

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<v Speaker 1>subdues the vampire with a big, chunky silver cross. I

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<v Speaker 1>like this cross. It looks really substantial.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really huge, like as it's not one that you

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<v Speaker 3>would normally just carry on your person, and it would

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<v Speaker 3>look ridiculous on like a chain around your neck. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure where you got this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Gordon explains to Peters that vampires multiply geometrically.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done the math. They have to stop this fast,

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<v Speaker 1>so they put out an APB to look for dead

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<v Speaker 1>people who have gone missing, like Bobby, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>get another club scene. I guess it's the next night

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<v Speaker 1>and they're at the club again. The Hues Corporation is

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<v Speaker 1>playing again. It's another jam and Gordon, Michelle, and Tina

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<v Speaker 1>are sitting around at a table and Mama Welde joins

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<v Speaker 1>them once again. He cheekily orders a bloody Mary and

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<v Speaker 1>then Gordon is like, hey, Mama Weldey, can maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can help me? Are you into the occult? It seems

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<v Speaker 1>kind of out of nowhere, but I think maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>means like he's asking him because he wears the cape,

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<v Speaker 1>so he, you know, looks like a vampire.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess because of the I and the follow up question,

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<v Speaker 3>how about the heavy stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly which craft all that? And this is so

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<v Speaker 1>it turns into a general quiz on the subject of

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<v Speaker 1>the occult, vampires and the devil, and Mama all Day

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<v Speaker 1>is like, oh, yeah, vampires are the most interesting of

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. We get another visit from Skillet and

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<v Speaker 1>when he arrives, mamualde leaves and takes Tina with him.

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<v Speaker 1>More talk about how he wants the cape. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little tip off here. What happened to the photographer

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<v Speaker 1>who was here the night before or I guess two

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<v Speaker 1>nights before. Maybe Gordon decides to investigate. He goes next

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<v Speaker 1>door to her house and there he finds the photos

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<v Speaker 1>where Mamaualday is missing. Gordon realizes that he is the

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<v Speaker 1>vampire he's been looking for, and of course this makes

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<v Speaker 1>him worried for Tina, who just went home with him,

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<v Speaker 1>so Gordon and Michelle rushed to Tina's apartment to rescue her.

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<v Speaker 1>They bust in. Gordon and Mama Alde fight and Mama

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<v Speaker 1>Alde runs off, and the police arrive on the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's like chase. The people are running around

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<v Speaker 1>through alleyways trying to find the vampire, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>finally appears. He gets one cop isolated and he appears

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<v Speaker 1>in vampire mode and kills the cop. So now Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>and Peters know who the King Vampire is, but they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where he is, so they begin an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>to find his coffin because, in accordance with standard lore,

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<v Speaker 1>the way you can destroy him is to destroy his coffin,

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<v Speaker 1>destroy his resting place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, especially I hunt him out during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I guess that's the other way is find

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<v Speaker 1>him during the day and stake him while he's sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>So from here on out, the film becomes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more action oriented. Like there's a scene where they find

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<v Speaker 1>vampire Bobby and trace him back to the antique warehouse,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like a raid on the vampire nest there

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<v Speaker 1>at the warehouse, and there's a big fight with Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>and the other police getting ambushed by vampires and in

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of maze of crates and bobs boxes and

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<v Speaker 1>they end up throwing these oil lanterns to fight them off.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a bunch of like a person in a

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<v Speaker 1>fire suit stunts. Oh yeah, there's a scary moment where

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<v Speaker 1>you remember the cop Barns who went to help the

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<v Speaker 1>photographer at her house. He of course we saw it

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<v Speaker 1>in Bitten, but he's like one of their investigating party,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course he turns on them. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this fight, Mama Walde appears and then escapes in

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<v Speaker 1>bat form by transforming into a bat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course this is a classic bit, right, vampire

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<v Speaker 3>transforms into a bat. But from an effects standpoint, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a daring vampire movie trope to include, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've all seen examples of it that look

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<v Speaker 3>a bit silly, right, you know, you can imagine like

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<v Speaker 3>here's here's a human poof of smoke, and then a

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<v Speaker 3>floppy bat on a string.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it almost always looks silly. I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>of a movie where the transformation into a bat does

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<v Speaker 1>not look silly.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, maybe I'm being super generous here because

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<v Speaker 3>I like so many other things about the picture, but

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<v Speaker 3>I thought this one looked reasonably good considering what the

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<v Speaker 3>effect is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the better ones. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, this all leads up to a big final

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<v Speaker 1>showdown a set piece at a chemical factory, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where Mamaelde's coffin is stored now, so he Mamaelde takes

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<v Speaker 1>Tina there and the police give chase. And then tragically,

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<v Speaker 1>while the police are running around in this place looking

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<v Speaker 1>through them through these like mazes of pipes and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>chemical tanks and things, they see the two of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a cop shoots at them and Tina is killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Horrible tragedy Tina. And then of course Mama Weelde turns

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<v Speaker 1>Tina into a vampire because at that point it's the

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<v Speaker 1>only way to save her. But he is now of

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<v Speaker 1>course furious, and he he yells at the at all

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<v Speaker 1>of their pursuers through and it like sort of echoes

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the entire building. Is sort of a curse of vengeance.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, this will be your inglorious tomb.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then follows it up with your tomb, your tomb,

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<v Speaker 3>your tomb. And I have to say this bit just

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<v Speaker 3>keeps playing through my mind because on one hand, just

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<v Speaker 3>an absolutely great moment in the film that drives home

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<v Speaker 3>just the vengeful power of vampire Prince Mama Walde. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>his enemies here are clearly doomed. They have crossed the line.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also one of those bits of dialogue that

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<v Speaker 3>on paper or coming from a lesser actor, it might

1:14:29.040 --> 1:14:31.080
<v Speaker 3>have come off a bit silly, a bit fake, but

1:14:31.640 --> 1:14:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Marshall absolutely imbues it here with Shakespearean power.

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<v Speaker 1>It's strong. You can feel his rage. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes even worse because so he turns Tina into a

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<v Speaker 1>vampire because it's the only way to save her at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. And then Gordon and Peters come across the

1:14:52.360 --> 1:14:55.400
<v Speaker 1>vampire's coffin. They think they've discovered his coffin and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to stake him to end this. They rip the

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<v Speaker 1>lid off, throw the stake down and then they realize

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<v Speaker 1>they have staked Tina by accident. I guess they would

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<v Speaker 1>have had to stake her either way because she is

1:15:09.000 --> 1:15:12.400
<v Speaker 1>a vampire now. But yeah, it wasn't what they were

1:15:12.439 --> 1:15:13.280
<v Speaker 1>intending to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but at this point, Mamalalde shows up. He sees this,

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<v Speaker 3>and this takes the fight out of him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because this was his whole reason for being, and he

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<v Speaker 3>says as much. There's this great moment where Gordon reaches

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<v Speaker 3>in to get that big chunky cross out of his jacket,

1:15:30.000 --> 1:15:32.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, like he's pulling a gun or something, and

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<v Speaker 3>Mamalde says that won't be necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. It's an incredibly sad turn. You could see he's

1:15:38.560 --> 1:15:42.800
<v Speaker 1>just given up now and with his love gone, he

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<v Speaker 1>surrenders himself to his ultimate fate and decides that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to walk out into the daylight, which he does.

1:15:51.240 --> 1:15:53.679
<v Speaker 1>He like struggles, you can see the pain in him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he walks up the staircase under the roof of

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<v Speaker 1>the building and bathes himself in sunlight, and then Collapse

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<v Speaker 1>is dead. And then we see like his skin rots

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<v Speaker 1>away and turns to worms, and it's a very bleak

1:16:07.680 --> 1:16:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and tragic ending. There's not really anything. There's not really

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<v Speaker 1>anything happy to redeem it that comes back. You just

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<v Speaker 1>end on this moment of absolute loss, and yeah, I

1:16:19.680 --> 1:16:21.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to say about that. It's one of

1:16:21.479 --> 1:16:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the bleakest endings I can think of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want it any other way.

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<v Speaker 3>You could imagine cuts of the film where you could

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<v Speaker 3>have had something different, like, you know, the sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like police chummy chummy having that moment where they're like, hey, well,

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<v Speaker 3>well at least we stop the vampires. It's sad, but

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<v Speaker 3>the good guy's won. Or you could have gone in an

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<v Speaker 3>entirely different direction. It also wouldn't be out of keeping

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<v Speaker 3>with other films and just just cut back to the

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<v Speaker 3>Hughes Corporation doing another number, you know, and just sort

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<v Speaker 3>of almost like insisting on a change of pace. But

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<v Speaker 3>they stick to the ending here, and the last thing

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<v Speaker 3>we see is the skull of Mamma Walde. Now a

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<v Speaker 3>quick note about the fate of Mama Walde. Here in

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<v Speaker 3>the film, the main hoster for Blacula features an image

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<v Speaker 3>of him being staked, an image that appears to be

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<v Speaker 3>very manipulated, like it's not I don't think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>shot from the film, And this, of course is dumb,

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<v Speaker 3>but in line with plenty of other vampire movies and

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<v Speaker 3>trailers that show the movie's main vampire being staked.

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<v Speaker 1>If that were true, it would seem to be a spoiler.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but again, it wouldn't be out of line with

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<v Speaker 3>marketing for other vampire films.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's not even true. In this case. He

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<v Speaker 1>does not get staked. He just surrenders himself to death

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<v Speaker 1>by the sun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it makes me wonder, Like was just like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wonder of what stage in production the poster was

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<v Speaker 3>made and maybe at one point he was the character

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be staked, and William Marshall was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not going to work for me. And if that's

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<v Speaker 3>the case, I applaud him for sticking to his guns

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<v Speaker 3>and going and pushing for this ending.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's Blacula. A really good tragic romance

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<v Speaker 1>and a really good horror movie too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, I was really impressed with it on the whole. So,

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<v Speaker 3>as always, we'd love to hear from folks out there

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<v Speaker 3>if y'all have any thoughts on the film, any memories

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<v Speaker 3>and so forth. Everything is fair game. Just want to

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you can go so specific as to

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<v Speaker 3>just say, show me only the vampire movies, but you

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<v Speaker 3>then figure it out on your own. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how many vampire movies we've done at this point, but

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<v Speaker 3>we've done a few and we'll do a few more.

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