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Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giantshuttle Podcast, brought to

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Speaker 3: to Arizona State running backs coach Sean Iguano, who coached

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Speaker 3: Cam Scattabow at Arizona State. We're joining you from the

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Speaker 3: can go back, we have a couple of previous interviews

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Speaker 3: coach rather at Oklahoma State. For the Giants seventh round pick,

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Speaker 3: so a lot of good interviews. Make sure you go

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Speaker 3: check them out on the Giants Huddle podcast and now

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Speaker 3: welcome in our guest. He is the running backs coach

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Speaker 3: for Arizona State. He is Sean Iguano. Sean, how are

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Speaker 3: you man?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic? Can't do any better?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm so happy to talk to you. We just

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Speaker 3: had a couple days of OTAs here. We got to

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Speaker 3: Scattabo is just a fun dude. Give us a feel

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Speaker 3: just just give me your first experiences with him and

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Speaker 2: You know, a great personality, intense, intense guy that played

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Speaker 2: He loves football. He's an all ball guy, and so

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Speaker 2: that kind of persuaded me to jump on him real

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Speaker 2: you know, his football intelligence is probably one of the

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Speaker 2: But he understands the game of football and loves the

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Speaker 3: All right, I want to touch on all those things,

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Speaker 2: You know what stood out was his contact balance And

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Speaker 2: But I loved his tenacity and then when he played

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Speaker 2: I think I think both of those. I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: And he is seeking out contact the wrong term because

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Speaker 2: You know that was that was a concern, and can

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Speaker 3: You know, I think too, Sean, when you watch him run,

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Speaker 2: You know, his lateral quickness is something that people don't understand,

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Speaker 1: Phone booth stuff.

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Speaker 3: Right, Like when you're in that line of scrimmage area

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Speaker 1: That's special like kids. Not a lot of kids can

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of kids can do that. And that's

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Speaker 2: something that intrigued me the most, and then the for

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Speaker 2: those tackles would be not full contact, but more of

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Speaker 1: So let me let me bring this full circle. You

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Speaker 3: How important and essential is that football intelligence to use

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Speaker 2: I think it's really important. What people don't understand about

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Speaker 2: He knows the blocking scheme, he knows the calls, he

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Speaker 2: Because he studies the why and he wants to know.

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Speaker 2: And he's a guy that asks a lot of questions,

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Speaker 2: but those questions are very intelligent questions because he wants

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Speaker 2: And he'll challenge you if you don't have an answer

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Speaker 3: Manning, dive a little deeper into that football intelligence part

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Speaker 3: of it with me, what really you said?

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things that first stood out to

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Speaker 3: Give me some examples or details about what parts of

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Speaker 2: You know. So when we first started he studies the

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Speaker 2: he knows where people are coming from. From a protection standpoint,

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Speaker 2: he's elite now. Fundamentally he has to work on keeping

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Speaker 3: And I think so much, and that's the smart analytical

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Speaker 2: Absolutely because I think he anticipates where they're coming from

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the pass pro part of this, which you

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Speaker 3: the field. Coach, you know that you talked about him

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Speaker 3: And it's funny, you took me exactly where I wanted

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And when he came into ESU, all of our

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Speaker 3: You guys made last year, and you take on Texas

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Speaker 2: Because whoever's fitting Cam from a defensive structure, we take

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Speaker 2: he's the better player. We knew that if we played

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Speaker 3: And I feel like he's one of these guys that

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Speaker 2: He tries to play that calm, but he's he's intense

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Speaker 3: How does he lead coach? Is he more relieved by

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Speaker 2: He's both and and he'll get in people's faces and

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Speaker 1: I imagine he sets a pretty high standard in that

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Speaker 3: How does he learn? Is he a guy that that

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Speaker 2: He's very intelligent. Now he can see it and go

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Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

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Speaker 2: I'd like to learn about ANILI routine.

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Speaker 3: Well, how much experience does he have in the various

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Speaker 2: And he's seen it all because we're a mid zone,

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Speaker 3: How much did dropping that weight and becoming more fit

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you about his speed. Look he

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Speaker 2: There's no question. You know, his ten yard and twenty

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, all right, coach, Do you have any you know,

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Speaker 2: But that's just his mentality, you know. And there's a

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Speaker 2: and he is bright enough to understand when it's serious

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Speaker 3: Now, Now does he take coaching, Well, I give you

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Speaker 3: get on him will will Will he handle that?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? And he and like we go back about his intelligence.

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Speaker 2: He knows when he's wrong, uh, and he knows when when,

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Speaker 2: So most of those were mature conversations because I would

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Speaker 2: But there's sometimes from an effort standpoint that I didn't

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Speaker 2: Tuesday practice, he was pretty sore a little bit that

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Speaker 2: I got on him and make sure that he's he's

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Speaker 2: attacking every practice the way he would attack that at

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: I guess my final question that would be this.

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Speaker 3: You know we always joke about angry runs now, right,

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Speaker 3: They have the segment on Good Morning Football Angry runs

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Speaker 3: and Caim runs angry, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the way he runs. Is he

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Speaker 3: Or is there do you have to pull him back

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Speaker 3: sometimes where he gets so revved up and into it

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Speaker 2: There's no question, I think, like you know, when it's

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Speaker 2: you know, press the line or whatever it is. But

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Speaker 2: he's done it so many times, ninety to night percent

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Speaker 2: of the time he gets it's done and it's efficient.

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Speaker 2: So he'll get to that point. But the older, the

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Speaker 2: more the development that I've seen, there's more understanding from

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Speaker 2: a situational standpoint that makes him a better back too.

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Speaker 1: Coach.

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Speaker 3: Anything that you think we we didn't touch on and

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Speaker 3: know what they're getting with Cam here as as as

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Speaker 2: You know what what you see is what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 2: He's he's very good out in the public with the

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Speaker 2: with with people. He's you know, he's approachable. He has

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Speaker 2: a great personality. So being right in New York, I

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Speaker 2: mean he's gonna fit right in. And then at the

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Speaker 2: same time, you'll love the way he plays and he'll

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Speaker 2: he'll bring that enthusiasm to the game.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna fit right in with that blue

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Speaker 3: collar Northeast you know New York City cop, you know

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Speaker 3: New New dude.

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Speaker 1: Jero question guy on the docks, you know type of thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, coach. I think he's gonna be great.

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Speaker 2: No question.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Hey, good luck this year, coach.

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Speaker 3: Hope you guys have as much success as you had

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Speaker 3: last season, and we really appreciate the time and we

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Speaker 3: can't wait to interact and have some fun with Camp

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Speaker 3: scataball in the field up here in New York.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, good luck, guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Just phenomenal stuff there. It was great talking to Sean Wan,

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Speaker 3: a nice guy. He was a big timehigh school coach

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Speaker 3: by the way out there in Arizona before uh he

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Speaker 3: joined up on the Arizona State coaching staff. Really good coach,

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Speaker 3: really good guy. Was really fun talking to him about

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Speaker 3: Cam Scatabowne. I think he's just about as excited about

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Speaker 3: Cam as I am.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, guys, me, I love my I

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Speaker 3: love I love Cam what love watching him? And I

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Speaker 3: said that before the Giants drafted him. So it was

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Speaker 3: good fun talking to him, getting a feel for him

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Speaker 3: and for his his personality, his run style and things

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Speaker 3: like that. So it was a lot of fun talking

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Speaker 3: to him right here on the Giants Huttle Podcast, brought

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us on the Hacken

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Speaker 3: Sack Mariney Helds podcast studio. Keep getting better. I am

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