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Speaker 1: Second date up date ladies will tell you that men

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Speaker 1: on the dating apps come in all different forms. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you've got the shy boys, the alpha bros, the doggie dads,

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Speaker 1: the tough and ruthless, and the rough and toothless. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and most of them all live on a site called

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Speaker 1: plenty of Fish, where, coincidentally, that's exactly where our listener

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Speaker 1: Christine met her date recently.

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Speaker 2: Oh did you like the toothless ones too?

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Speaker 1: I wonder which category of man he's going to fall into.

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Speaker 1: But Christine, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, Pan.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. Plenty of Fish is ridiculed a lot.

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Speaker 1: Right, not just by people on our show, but just

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Speaker 1: in the world in general.

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Speaker 2: What made you turn to that site?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just I didn't really have great luck on

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Speaker 3: I guess like the other one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I just thought I'll.

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Speaker 3: Give it a shot.

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Speaker 1: You actually never tried Plenty of Fish because everyone talk

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Speaker 1: bad about it. I guess go towards it.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Desperation can bring you to do a lot of different

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Speaker 1: that's really excited date.

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Speaker 2: It's like so good. The people on it like talk

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well tell us you obviously met a guy.

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Speaker 1: What's his name?

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Speaker 5: Luke?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And what type of guy is he? On the

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Speaker 3: Categorizing is like a rugged guy and like a I'll

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Speaker 2: Lucky log cabin. Rugged guys don't go to privacy with

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Speaker 1: He bought a log cabin.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't It is not a Jeffrey because Jeffrey has

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Speaker 1: You're sounding very jealous that she actually met a really

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Speaker 2: Because like, you've never had a callous on your hands.

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Speaker 3: So it's.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I was doing that.

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Speaker 3: Was okay?

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Speaker 2: Tell us about Luke? Sorry his hand?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, m hm, so, you know, just very manly. He's

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Speaker 2: What'd you guys do? Wait? Hold on, where'd you go?

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Speaker 2: What'd you do?

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Speaker 3: Oh, we went to outback steakhouse, which I love.

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Speaker 1: Was there like a big highlight moment of the date

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Speaker 3: I guess I'll say this. He was an absolute gentleman,

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean the vibe that you're describing right

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Speaker 1: the conversation went really well, hot hands. But what signals

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess he wasn't like overly like he wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was that terill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, job, he shuffles the men usual quick right next question.

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Speaker 3: There was a point where maybe he thought something I

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Speaker 3: I ordered two entrees, and I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: I went to a super nice restaurant with my bros recently,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Italian where they give you too small of than

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Speaker 2: And you order this much.

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Speaker 3: I kind of subtly offered to pay, but then he

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Speaker 2: How did the night end? Like, did he say I

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Speaker 3: So okay. So like at the end of the date,

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Speaker 3: you can just follow me home. We can watch a

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Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, that's quite the invite. What did he say?

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Speaker 3: He kind of just supt like okay, and you like

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Speaker 1: I'm not really So he said yes to going back

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Speaker 3: I just looked up and I realized he wasn't there anymore.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you tell someone to follow you realize I'll slow

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Speaker 1: your friends drive. I've done this too. You get to

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm still two likes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, why didn't you just text him your address or something?

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Speaker 3: So I ended up messaging him the next day because

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Speaker 3: I wasn't sure like if he purposefully ditched.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't sure, and if he did ditch me,

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Speaker 2: So how are we?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you're really into him. You just want

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Speaker 1: to hear his voice one more time? Bring you happiness?

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Speaker 2: How are you going to column if you guys were

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Speaker 3: Well, so at that point I didn't have his phone number,

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Speaker 1: Okay, you had the police look it up.

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Speaker 6: For you.

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Speaker 2: How did you.

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Speaker 3: On the app? Later? After, I was like, do you

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Speaker 3: mind if we just text?

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Speaker 3: So I have texted him after, but now he's just

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Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna be one of our listeners

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Speaker 2: who loves to do things like really higher private detectives

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Speaker 4: I'm actually really relieved.

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Speaker 3: No, I have a good friend like that, but I'm

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Speaker 6: Right, all right?

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Speaker 1: Will you have your friend be our backup plan in

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Speaker 1: case we really need to track this? Yeah, rug good

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Speaker 1: guy down, but we're gonna come back and call Luke

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Speaker 1: and your plenty of fish out Back Steakhouse. Second date

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Speaker 1: this second date update. One Girl, one boy, three entrees,

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Speaker 1: forty thousand calories, and somehow zero follow up about a

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Speaker 1: second date. That's pretty much what happened when our listener

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Speaker 1: Christine met up with the walking mountain of testosterone named.

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Speaker 2: Luke over at the Outback Steakhouse, and I just want

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Speaker 1: She even gave him the rare offer of you know,

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Speaker 1: I won't be mad. Well, Christine was obviously very into Luke.

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious, Christine, what do you have to say

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not interested in someone who thinks I'm too eager.

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Speaker 3: I want someone who's gonna take me as I am.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. And God, why is being excited

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Speaker 1: I've never seen a woman before in real life.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Hey, you know what, and order the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, life short, all right, that's right in your pants?

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Speaker 1: Okay, not that far. So you remember when I talked

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm ready to call this guy for you, Christine.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's a perfect amount of it. All right,

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Speaker 1: We'll see if he picks up. And Christine, remember, don't

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Speaker 1: Just try try to hold it in. Here we go.

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Speaker 6: Hello, this is Luke.

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Speaker 1: WHOA. I know. I wasn't expecting that.

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Speaker 2: His hands just answered the phone.

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Speaker 6: Luke.

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Speaker 1: This is a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: in the Morning.

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Speaker 6: What's going on? Guy?

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Speaker 1: Sorry? Man, we know this is weird. Let jeff explain.

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Speaker 1: This is a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: in the Morning, and we're doing a segment called a

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Speaker 1: second Date Update. Second Date Update there, sorry.

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Speaker 6: About that, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So basically, it's a segment where we try to help

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Speaker 6: Okay, I've heard of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and we've heard some good things about you.

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Was that too eager.

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Speaker 1: Nor liltne was a little bit sensual? Yeah? We heard

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Speaker 1: it from a woman named Christine who you took to

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Speaker 1: the Outback steakhouse recently and now you're not calling her back.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, she knows why.

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Speaker 2: Actually she doesn't. She has no idea why.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise she wouldn't be reaching out to our show to

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Speaker 6: Really, well, you're yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting obviously. It sounds like it should be pretty apparent.

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Speaker 6: Well, when you bring your three kids on the day

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Speaker 6: and you don't tell a person that you're going on

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Speaker 2: Goodness, are you wait? She did not mention she brought children,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she has three kids that she brought on the date.

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Speaker 6: They're like five seven, and.

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Speaker 1: They were at the table with you, or they were

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Look, I've been on some dates, and I mean

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Speaker 2: So many questions like how did she even introduce you

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Speaker 6: Or what she just you know, said, these are my kids, kids,

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Speaker 2: I mean, were they good kids? Are they well behaved kids?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, okay, why would she not tell us that?

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Speaker 2: Like that is so bizarre.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a great question, broke, and we should just

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Speaker 1: ask it directly to Christine, because Luke, you don't know this,

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Speaker 6: Wait, what.

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Speaker 2: The kids are at school?

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Speaker 4: So it's just us, Hell, are you there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got some plaining to do, Christine.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I didn't tell you guys that I brought

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's fair. We probably should be more

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Speaker 2: Ards don't bring kids on dates. They don't bring kids

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you've read the rule book on dating with children.

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Speaker 4: Nothing sexy about being out on a date and having.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you sure are judging her a lot, and we

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Speaker 1: haven't even heard the reason why. May like, maybe there's

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Speaker 3: I just figured if he's gonna date me, he needs

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Speaker 1: Whoaa more than three?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke, she just put it on the table for you.

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Speaker 6: What do you think I did not know? She was

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 6: I got to be honest, you know, when she invited

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Speaker 1: Great he's familiar with. That's a good sign.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, I certainly have a lot of

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Speaker 6: Do a family I just think that something you mentioned

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Speaker 2: It can't be good for your kids to be part

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Speaker 2: meal out of it. Brothers, fine, Alexis do you like

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Speaker 2: being involved with your mother's dating life? Okay, well no,

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Speaker 1: As a five or seven year old, it would have

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it could have turned out a lot worse.

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Speaker 3: You know, my two baby daddies. They were asking what

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Speaker 1: No, you said, baby daddy's plural, there's multiple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, why would you bring them on

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Speaker 3: They asked, And they have every right to see their kids.

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Speaker 1: Wow, be a party.

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Speaker 6: Three kids is some baggage. But three kids and two

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Speaker 2: But they do feel it does sound like they all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 3: I get along with the two of them. I don't

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Speaker 1: It makes sense.

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Speaker 6: Are you trying to have six kids by six different guys?

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Speaker 6: Like what's going on?

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Speaker 3: His family's really important to me. And look, Luke, I

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Speaker 3: thought maybe, if you're up for it, we could do

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a pretty good deal for you, Luke, because.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it sounds, Luke like you weren't turned off

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Speaker 3: I'm only going to bring one kid next time, I

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Speaker 1: Wait, which one are you bringing? The bathroom one or

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Speaker 1: Neither seems like the good one. What do you say?

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to pass guys. Sorry about Oh wow, Sorry, Christine.

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Speaker 6: You're a really sweet girl, and I hope everything works

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Speaker 1: You're just saying that because his voice is really sexy.

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning. A lot of weirdness in that call,

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Speaker 2: Us because we didn't ask you brought her three children?

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Speaker 1: Said, I ordered multiple meals, multiple dinners, and no one

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Speaker 2: Girl, I'm a hungry girl. I got her on that

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Speaker 4: For the last thing I want to think about when

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Speaker 1: like this. All right, it was that was really tragic.

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Speaker 1: But we do have some good work in our history.

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Speaker 1: You can go find some of it online and all

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Speaker 1: of our podcasts they're available up wherever you get them.

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