1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour on this Tuesday, Been a fun day. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky was bringing fire last hour. Got a chance 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: to revisit with one of the coolest athletes I ever 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: got a chance to cover, Doctor j Tim Callishaw Dallas 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Morning News Around the Horn, talking about the Dak Prescott deal. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: If you missed what Orlovsky had to say about the 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys side of this contract with Dak Prescott, we'll bring 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: that back because he does not paint a rosy picture 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys coming up this season, and this 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: is the season where they need to take advantage of Hey, 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: we don't have distractions now with Dak's contract. Everybody else 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: in the division feels wounded and we're going to be 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: ready to go. We'll bring back Dan Orlovsky's comments about 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys moving forward. The Eagles have had quite an 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: offseason at the quarterbacking position. You trade Carson Wentz to 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and then you have a second year pro Jalen Hurts. 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: He's the de facto starter here. Now there's speculation maybe 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: they use the sixth pick overall to bring in a 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: quarterback to compete with Jalen Hurts, he spends Chris Mortenson 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: reports Philadelphia owner Jeffrey Lurie wants to build around Jalen Hurts. 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Some members of the Philadelphia media said, not so fast. 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: We don't buy into that. If the report is true, 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: you can understand where Laurie is coming from, because you know, 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: normally an owner doesn't medal in personal matters. But Hurts 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: seems like a good second round fine last year. I 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: don't know if that means he's your starter. It's just 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: you've found somebody who's maybe better than you thought. Maybe 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles are pulling a smoke screen here. Maybe they 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: do want to draft a quarterback. I would not listen 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: to anybody right now and go, oh, you're telling me 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: the truth. Huh. What is the advantage of the Eagles 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: owner going, we're going to build around Jalen Hurts. We're 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: not taking a quarterback nothing, there's no advantage and unless 35 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: you're going, I want to build up Jail and hurts 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: his confidence, you know, maybe they learn from Carson Wentz. 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: You know, we don't want to draft another quarterback and 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: maybe hurt somebody's confidence level here. But we're gonna know 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: for sure, on April twenty ninth with the draft. But 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: it appears it's jail and hurts job to lose. But 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule out the Eagles entertaining the idea of 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: getting a quarterback. Here's the key. If the Eagles are 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: going to go in for a quarterback, they probably have 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: to move up a spot because it feels like the 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Bengals are open for business. If somebody wants to come 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: in at number five overall and they would be able 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: to steal a quarterback from the Eagles. This is how 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: it worked. It worked with Deshaun Watson, it worked with 49 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. That's the guy we want. Who do we 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: go up and trade with? They don't need a quarterback, 51 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: and that might be the case this year. Also, we've 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: spent a little bit of time talking about Russell Wilson 53 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: because now the Cowboys are off the board. There's a 54 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: little bit of information that I've found out through another 55 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: source who's around this situation, and that is, does Russ 56 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: expand his wish list? Because now it's down to three? 57 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: What did the Bears give up? They should give up 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: whatever they need to give up because their coach and 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: GM will probably be fired if they don't make the 60 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: playoffs or win a game in the playoffs. Other than that, 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: stakes aren't that high, right the Saints, I don't see 62 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: that happening. And then there's the Raiders. Could I see 63 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: that happen, Yes, but it feels like everything is on 64 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: the back burner till the following season. But I don't 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: know if Russell Wilson, if you really want out, do 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: you then say to management, We're tell us the teams 67 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: that you think you could make a deal with Dolphins, Jets. 68 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Those two teams are ready to pony up a treasure 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: trove for Russell Wilson from what I'm told, And maybe 70 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: they have all already done that. But if Seattle is 71 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: not returning calls from the Raiders and the Saints and 72 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: the Bears and the Cowboys, and maybe you don't see 73 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: any improvement with If I'm Russell Wilson, Okay, we got 74 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, Well, Pete Carroll is still the 75 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. They've had other offensive coordinators, it's still Pete Carroll. 76 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Are you going to pick up any lineman? Like, there's 77 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: there's things that are factoring in here. If you're Russell Wilson, 78 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: where you go, Okay, is that going to happen? No? 79 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: Is that going to happen? No? Is that going to happen. 80 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: Maybe we're not going to know until free agency. If 81 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson goes, you know what, on second thought, I 82 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: don't think you can have on second thought, I want 83 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: to end my career here because that's not going to happen. 84 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: It feels like Seattle they have to put up with 85 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. He gives them the best chance of winning now. 86 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: But do I think long term even the next couple 87 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: of years now, I do not see that happening. But 88 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: if I'm Russell Wilson, am I willing to expand my 89 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: wish list and include a team like the Jets or 90 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: include a team like the Dolphins? Is there an outlier 91 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: like Carolina if they don't get to Shaun Watson, would 92 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: they be interested in Russell Wilson? But if you're Russell Wilson, 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: you're going to go to a team that's going to 94 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: be giving up resources to get you and the Jets 95 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: and then you're going to go to a team and 96 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: you go, wait a minute, we're not very good, or 97 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: you have to give up the third pick overall if 98 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: you're the Miami Dolphins, and what does Seattle take in return? 99 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: Because we always look at a trade potential trade from 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: one side, not both sides, because that's not any fun. 101 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: That's the reality of all of this, and nobody wants 102 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: to deal with the reality of all to this, and 103 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: that is if I'm Seattle, what do I want from Miami? 104 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: Do I want to do? They like toah, I get 105 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: the third pick overall and another first round pick and 106 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: then something else. What if you don't want toa what's 107 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: that due to the deal or the Jets, we get 108 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: the number two pick overall, you can take your quarterback. 109 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: They may say, we'll give you the number two pick, 110 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: but you got to take Sam Darnold. So there's a 111 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: lot of things that factor in here. If you're the 112 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, this comes down to ego. For me. From 113 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: what I'm told, this is about Pete Carrol's ego and 114 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's ego. And you're not going to build a 115 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: winner when your quarterback makes all that money. The reason 116 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: why Seattle succeeded because Russell Wilson was a fined and 117 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: you got him on a rookie deal. Just like the 118 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. They went thirteen and three. Now, all of 119 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: a sudden, DA got paid. Let me see what you 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: do now, because you just made it even tougher because 121 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: you overspent with some of these other players. Dak has 122 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: to play out of his mind. In my opinion, Russell 123 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Wilson was playing out of his mind first half of 124 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: the season. All of a sudden something changed. Now, Can 125 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: I put blame on Russell? Absolutely holds onto the ball 126 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: too long, always trying to make a big play. Yes, absolutely. 127 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll wants to win with defense and running the football. 128 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't expect Russell Wilson to 129 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: be traded, not this year, next year, yeah probably so yeah. 130 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: See it's kind of ironic not to do this, but 131 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll wants to win with defense and running 132 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: the football when his most famous play is calling him 133 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: past play when he should have run the ball. Yeah 134 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: too soon? Yeah, too soon? Yeah, way too soon? Yeah? 135 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: But that I mean, still have you said it before? 136 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: The aftershocks of that play call are certainly still They haven't. 137 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: They haven't recovered from that Super Bowl loss. In my opinion, 138 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: they truly haven't. Yeah, pull and you assume you're going 139 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: to be back. If you're a seat off and you're like, oh, yeah, 140 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: we went to two Super Bowls and Russell's first with 141 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: three or four seasons, I think three, and and you're like, oh, 142 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: we'll be back, Dan Marino, We'll be back. I was 143 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: looking at the NFL draft order. There's a lot more 144 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in play too. Magic Atlanta takes a quarterback at four, 145 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: or they trade up. Now Matt Ryan, who's still a 146 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: good quarterback beyond you know, above average quarterback, is in play. 147 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: They're expected to take a quarterback in it. So that 148 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: means Matt Ryan now becomes in play, or or he 149 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: sits for a year or tutors for a year. You know, 150 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, who's not bad, could be available quickly. You 151 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: know Drew Locke, who people some people still like, how many? Yeah, 152 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: But but you have the Niners situation with Jimmy Garoppolo. 153 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: Here is Greg Bdard. He's a Patriots insider and he 154 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: has a podcast, the Greg Badard Patriots Podcast, and he 155 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: had this to say about the new England Patriots plan. 156 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: A at quarterback. From what I gather from talking to 157 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: people this week over the past week, Jimmy Garoppolo is 158 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: still far and away. Their plan a that if they 159 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: had to draw it up exactly, you know, the optimal 160 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: situation for the Patriots for this coming season. It's Jimmy 161 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: G coming back here and of course that's all dependent 162 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: on the forty nine ers doing something. Now, don't believe 163 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: anything that John Lynch says, Like John Lynch really has 164 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: no power there. He's basically I guess he sort of 165 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: runs personnel. But it's Kyle Shanahan's show from top to bottom. Alrighty, well, 166 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick hand delivered Jimmy G to Kyle Shanahan. Does 167 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan return the favor? And what's it caused the 168 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Patriots to get Jimmy G back? And then what do 169 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: the Niners do If that's the case. I still think 170 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is a quarterback that I would factor in 171 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: somewhere next season because if I'm the Jets, I'm taking 172 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. If I feel like he is the guy, 173 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: then I'm using that spot for a quarterback. Because now 174 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: I have a young team, I have a new coach, 175 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: I have an experienced GM, but he hasn't been in 176 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: the job that long. Now I can build something here. 177 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: I got a basically a four year plan in place, 178 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: and that would be the route that I would take 179 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: because I don't know what Sam Darnold's going to be 180 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: worth once his contract expires, Like does he get thirty 181 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: five million dollars a year? And that would scare me 182 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: because I don't want to pay that money. But if 183 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: you said I can take Zach Wilson if you're sold 184 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: on him, I'm not sold on Zach. Looks like a 185 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: wonderful talent, but when you're competing to start this year 186 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: at the quarterbacking position, the schedule wasn't difficult. I did 187 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: watch the entire Coastal Carolina game, and I don't want 188 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: to put too much emphasis on that he can make 189 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: all the throws. I just I don't know. Like these 190 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: one year wonders make me nervous. And we saw there 191 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: was there was certainly progress. Was Zach Wilson the year before. 192 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: I'll truly acknowledge that. But I get nervous when you 193 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: do it for one year. And if I'm on the 194 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: Jets and I'm bringing him in, I'm bringing him in 195 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: to start. He got play, but there's there's a lot 196 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: of questions that are still left to be in like 197 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Nothing, we haven't heard anything. Isn't that amazing? Nothing? 198 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: No whispers other than Houston should move on? And what 199 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: can you get? The only thing we got was out 200 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: of the Houston Chronicle with John McClean saying, what about 201 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson for Kyler Murray? Well, there's a couple of 202 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: things attached to that. If if I'm the Texans giving 203 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson up to the Cardinals, it's Kyler Murray and 204 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: what else are you giving us? And also keep this 205 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: in mind, I can plug Deshaun Watson into any kind 206 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: of offense. I can't do that with Kyler Murray. Your 207 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: offense has to be catered to Kyler Murray his strengths. 208 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: That's what happened with the Cardinals. And are they willing 209 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: to do that with the Texans? Do they have the 210 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: personnel to do that? Do they have the coaching staff 211 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: to be able to do that? It's not as simple as, hey, 212 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: do you guys want to Sean wantson because he didn't 213 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: want here, We'll say Kyler Murray and give us a 214 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. It's not that easy. It sounds good, 215 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: but that feels like it's fantasy football winners and losers 216 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: from Dak Prescott's new contract. I would say the Cowboys 217 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: one from the standpoint of it's not a topic of conversation, 218 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: not anymore now will be depending on what happens this 219 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: next season. Dak's a bust. Shouldn't have paid overrated. He's 220 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: worth every penny of it. Cowboys a force to be reckoned. 221 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's here we go. This doesn't end, by 222 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: the way, for those who hate the Cowboys or this conversation, 223 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: it does not go away. Here's some key players what 224 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: they make. DeMarcus Lawrence twenty five million, Amari Cooper twenty million, 225 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: Zack Martin seventeen million, Tyron Smith fourteen million, Zeke Elliot 226 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: at thirteen point seven million. Those guys better produce because 227 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: it may not matter what Dak Prescott does. If those 228 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: guys don't produce, it's not going to end well. Other 229 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: winners Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson. Yes, poet, 230 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: we need, like all the NFL analysts and media people 231 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: to make some type of declaration today on the Cowboys. 232 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: And they're signing because Dan Orlovski is very used, vehement. 233 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: He said, this is a bad contract for the Cowboys 234 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: and does not help them win in any way, which 235 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: is what I think every team is trying to do. 236 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: But a lot of people were like everyone was sunshine 237 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: and flowers yesterday. What a great day, not just for 238 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: Dak but for both, for the franchise. But a year 239 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: from now, if if they're six and ten, it's still 240 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: gotta be a good signing. Well, this was the best 241 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: situation for the Cowboys to keep Dak Prescott. I see, 242 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: but I disagree because remember we talked a couple of 243 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: weeks ago that if you franchise take him, Yeah, it 244 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: hurts in the short term with more cap hit, but 245 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: then you are if his injury doesn't respond that well 246 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: or the team doesn't respond that well and they don't 247 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: make the playoffs next year, you're not on the hook 248 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: for anything. You can move on with your life and 249 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,479 Speaker 1: restart the franchise. Well, no, I'm giving you the perspective 250 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: from Jerry Jones. Yes is you know I paid a 251 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: little bit more, but Dak's a leader, and you know 252 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: he paid a little bit more. I would have franchise 253 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: tagged it, but I would have given him the contract 254 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: two years ago, but I this year, coming off a 255 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: broken ankle, I would have franchised him. That, to me 256 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: is the amazing part of this. Maybe he's this is 257 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: a guy who uses his legs. They count on him 258 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: to use his legs, and you're going to give him 259 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: that money. That to me was surprising. I probably would 260 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: have done that. Now. It might have cost me more 261 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: money because Cowboys did not get a hometown discount at all. 262 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: It was hey, here's the price. He got everything he wanted. 263 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: Imagine you go into a negotiation, you go, I want this, 264 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: I want this, and you know I want seventy five 265 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: million dollars this year. Okay, okay, oh okay, yeah, And 266 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: that's what happened. Deck got everything he wanted. He probably 267 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: got Jerry Jones parking spot. Once he starts wearing glasses. 268 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones will probably clean his classes. He's a leader. Yes, 269 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: here's a comparison. This is probably apples and oranges. But 270 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in twenty seventeen, they had the number 271 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: one defense in all of football yardage and points, best 272 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: defense in football. They had the tenth ranked offense. They 273 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: had Kirk Cousins. I'm sorry. They had Case Keenom who 274 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: had a really nice season. He was doing because he 275 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: was surrounded by talent. He was doing fine. They decided 276 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: to upgrade their quarterback. They spent the first guaranteed contract 277 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: of all time for Kirk Cousins. Their offense now is 278 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: ranked eleventh, about the same and their defense is ranked 279 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: twenty ninth in the league. Four years later and they're 280 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: further from the super Bowl than they were three years ago. 281 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Was that a good contract signing Kirk Cousins? Nothing personal? 282 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: Just how did that work out? Their offense is exactly 283 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: the same, and they couldn't spend on defense anymore and 284 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: they'd let guys go. Well the text or the Vikings 285 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: have done well drafting. You got Jefferson, I mean you 286 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: got your star running back and your star wide receiver 287 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean Adam Feeling they got him 288 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: in the draft. It feels like the Vikings have done 289 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: really well in the draft. Would I have paid that 290 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: money for Kirk d Cousins. I wouldn't have, but I 291 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: would have to know what is our long term bigger 292 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: I'm not winning a super Bowl with Case Kingdom. You 293 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: gotta have a great quarterback at least it feels like that. 294 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: But and you got a defensive minded head coach and 295 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer. But yeah, they're they're farther away. It feels 296 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: like than they were a couple of years ago. Yeah, 297 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: McLevin see, I didn't feel like or LOFs he said 298 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: it was a terrible signing as much as like the 299 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys aren't going to win no matter who's a quarterback. 300 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Almost like there's just so many other problems. I mean, 301 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: maybe it was a bad signing, but what the other 302 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: options weren't any better? Were they? I mean, besides not 303 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: signing Dack, we're going two and fourteen, and I would 304 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: have done the franchise, Tach, Okay, I just want to 305 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: see if he's healthy and he's able to play. If 306 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: that would hurt you this year to do the franchise, Tachi, 307 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: I can't, I know, I know, but they put himself, 308 00:17:54,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: They put themselves in this situation, right, Jerry better against 309 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: Dak and Dac won, And I don't know if that's 310 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: where you go, Okay, I'll take my medicine. Or do 311 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: you bet against Dac again? Because you're not quite sure 312 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: how healthy he's going to be when he comes back. 313 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if I think this deal 314 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be over before we're gonna talk about his 315 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: next contract. Oh yeah, but they're problem like I mean 316 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: the same thing with Vikings. I do you honestly see 317 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer and Mike McCarthy Whit's deal, Lombardi Trophy, They're 318 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: just they're not elite coaching staffs right now. Well, Mike 319 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: McCarthy has points to do, I know, but I honestly like, 320 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 1: did you think that team was playing for him last year? 321 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't see the Cowboys is a threat to win 322 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? No, but you have a better chance 323 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: than the NFC than you do the AFC. Oh, definitely 324 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: in the next you know, three years. I was just 325 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: trying to pull who do you like in the NFC 326 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: East next year? I know there's a lot to be determined, 327 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: but dude, does anybody have a front runner there? The 328 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: dallash of Washington? I don't care about who's the front 329 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: runner in the NFC East. Mcloving I'm sorry. I can't 330 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: be territorial and go man, we're the best team in 331 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: the NFC East. Have you looked at the NFC East 332 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: nine and seven here, cop, it's horrible. We expectation as 333 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: a Cowboys expectation to go to the super Bowl, win 334 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: the division, like I would. Let let's start with winning 335 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: the division. I would hope they would, and then after that, 336 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: I would think winning a couple of playoff games. I 337 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: think that's a reasonable expectation. At least it should be. 338 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: I mean, they're paying they're paying some guys some good money. 339 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: They they better have some bigger results than yeah, we 340 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: edged out the Washington football team yes time. If they 341 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: finished eight seven and one and win the division and 342 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: win one close playoff game and then they're done, that 343 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: can't be enough. Thanks time, they'd be shorter game two. Probably, Oh, 344 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: there'll be seventeen. That's okay. I was I understood what 345 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: you're saying. Eight one will definitely win you the NFC. 346 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Would you take eight wins right now for their cow 347 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, it seems like that's a number they 348 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: always lad. Yeah, but you can't take eight nah, And 349 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: you can't take eight wins. I'm guessing that ten wins 350 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: is what they would expect, right, at least ten wins. 351 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to phone calls coming up, Darren 352 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: Ravelle is going to join us the Action Network. This 353 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: is a story that I have no idea what it's 354 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: all about. It's called top Shot, and you have people 355 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: investing all kinds of money where you get basically a 356 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: video snapshot, like your trading card is Lebron dunking on somebody. 357 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: So there is the context of the game, and I'll 358 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: let Darren explain it. Plus who is driving the card 359 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: collecting this money surge. You know, you've got these trading 360 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: cards going for a million dollars now, like one of 361 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: one Mike Trout or Lebron James, And so we'll talk 362 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: to him about that. But it's kind of crazy, and 363 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: I don't get the whole top Shot, where it's just 364 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: a picture that is like physically, do you get to 365 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: hold onto this thing? Todd? That's these digital collectibles. One 366 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: of the big things that from what I read, that's 367 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: great about it is enough that worry about it, keeping 368 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: it in mint condition or shipping it somewhere and it 369 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: gets lost or it gets bent, and what you have 370 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: to do with an actual physical card now that everything's digital, 371 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: but it's very very confusing how people are spending many, 372 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: many millions of dollars to have the right to these 373 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: little digital sells. And look, I was laid on Tesla 374 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: and bitcoin and some of those things, but I prefer 375 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: to just sit back and watch and these things are 376 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: already too expensive for me. We'll take a break here, 377 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: we'll come back with Darren Ravell and your phone calls 378 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: as well. Twenty three after the hour here on The 379 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. Something amazing. Discover matches all the cash 380 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: bank you earn on your credit card at the end 381 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: of your first year automatically, there's no limit on how 382 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: much you can earn. Pretty amazing, right. In fact, it's 383 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: even more amazing because of all the places where discovers accepted. 384 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of the places in the United States 385 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: that take credit cards take Discover. So when it comes 386 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: to Discover, get used to hearing the word yes more often. 387 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: Learn more at Discover dot com slash. Yes, that's Discover 388 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: dot com slash. He has twenty twenty one Nielsen report. 389 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: Limitations apply. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 390 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 391 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 392 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 393 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, 394 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on 395 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: my podcast Straight Fired with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your 396 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: typical sportspod pushing the same tired narratives down your throat 397 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: every day. Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all 398 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win 399 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: big at the sports book, and all the best guests. 400 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight Fire with 401 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever 402 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. We forgot Pauli gets a pie 403 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: to the face because PAULI said that he was guaranteeing 404 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was going to get franchise. Tag mclovin is 405 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: the one who said Dak Prescott was going to get 406 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: a long term contract and Paulie is going to get 407 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: a pie to the face tomorrow. Yeah, paul Yeah, I 408 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: think I guaranteed that on Friday. I should have known 409 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: better with Jerry Jones, so that's on me. I should 410 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: have known Jerry Jones would been made that decision ye, 411 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: who picks the pie? You or mclovin. Since mclovin won 412 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: the bet again, I'll start with the official pie of 413 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: Texas is pecan pie, which is both jagged and sharp, 414 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: though tasty soul. I don't want you to lose the 415 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: use of your other eye, Pye. By the way, famous 416 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: people with one eye Johnny Depp, it's blind in one eye. 417 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: How about that played a pirate? That's perfect casting. Um. 418 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: I think he launst to his other eye in the 419 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: divorce settlement, so I think he's seen said, Johnny Depp 420 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: was such a method actor that he purposely lost vision 421 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: in one eye to play a pirate. Pirate we're looking into. Okay, 422 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: there's a thing in Texas called a millionaire pie. It's 423 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: kind of like a whip cream type pie with there's 424 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: coconut pineapple cans, yeah, other stuff in it that seems 425 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: quite lovely. Yeah. I don't want you. I don't want 426 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: to hit you with a peecamp. I thank you, all right, 427 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: because that might hurt, and it does, and it's not 428 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: good content. I like to see the explosion on your face, 429 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: of course. Darren Ravell's sports business reporter for the Business 430 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: of Sports Betting Senior Executive producer the Action Network, and 431 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: I want to have Darren on for a couple of reasons. 432 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: The digital world of sports collecting with cards. Also a 433 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: lot of these cards. You know, we're finding out Mike 434 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: Troud rookie card, or Lebron or Tom Brady, they're going 435 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: for over a million dollars NBA Top Shot. There's a 436 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: lot of questions here, and that's why we bring in 437 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: Darren with the answers here. Let me start with the 438 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: NBA's Top Shot. So exactly what it is? Is it 439 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: and how did it start to explode into many many 440 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: millions of dollars for these these photos? Okay, So Dan, 441 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: when you if you have a nineteen fifty two Mickey Mantle, 442 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: do you own the photo? I own the card, correct. Yeah, 443 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: So that's the way to think about it. You own, 444 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: you own the one of those cards, and you have 445 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: the right to sell one of those cards. It's the 446 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: same thing with Top Shot. You have a highlight where 447 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: there's forty nine that have been given out and you 448 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: own one of forty nine, you have the right to 449 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: sell that one. You don't get dividends if it plays 450 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: on Sports Center or if someone runs it on YouTube, 451 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: you don't get any credit, You only own the right 452 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: for that one. And so, just like cards where there 453 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: are a limited edition cards, there are a limited edition 454 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: of these highlights. You get them out of digital packs 455 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: and you have the right to sell them. Some of 456 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: these have sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Now 457 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: the question is is this a real market or is 458 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: this a market that Listen, we're living in a world 459 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: where crypto is twenty four seven. You wake up, you 460 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: lose twelve thousand dollars a game. We're living in a 461 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: world where people pumped up game stop. You know a 462 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: company that has age old popcorn ingrained in their carpet 463 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: and made them a blue chip company. What is real? 464 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: I can't tell you what is real? But who gets 465 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: the video to allow you to get the snapshot? Who 466 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: owns the video? Of the NBA owns the video. The 467 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: NBA creates the content, and then top shot a company 468 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: Dapper Labs is the company that makes it, puts it 469 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: in the pack. The NBA owns the video, just like 470 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: whoever took the photo owns the video, owns the card. 471 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: So the NBA owns the video. There is no question 472 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: about that, but it is on the blockchain, so it 473 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: is secure. You own that particular right to sell and 474 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: then you can sell to someone else. And by the way, 475 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: here's an interesting point the NBA. Because it's on the 476 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: blockchain and it's secure, the NBA knows when you sell 477 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: it to somebody else, and when you sell it to 478 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: somebody else, they get a two and a half percent cut. 479 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: So anytime it's sold all the way down the line, 480 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: they get a cut, Which makes digital collectibles, as long 481 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: as it stays healthy, more important than a physical collectible, 482 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: because once you sell a card, the league isn't getting 483 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: a cut of it anymore. I'm trying to think, what's 484 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: the most famous piece of video that would be in 485 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: a card in NBA history, Like what is available? You know, 486 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: Lebron's block on andre Iguodala in the NBA Finals is 487 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: pretty famous, or Kyrie or but that's the thing. That's 488 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: the thing, right, Like a card, you don't know what 489 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: game it's from. People have never like Michael Jordan his 490 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: eighty six fleer Rookie that is lighting up the world, 491 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: that was from a random Nets game in nineteen eighty five. So, like, 492 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, this allows you to connect to a highlight. 493 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, they haven't really opened up the past, 494 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: like what would a nineteen eighty eight Jordan Dunk contest 495 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: from the foul Line highlights sell for? And are they 496 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: even going to be able to sell them? You would 497 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: need Michael Jordan. Why do I need Jordan if the 498 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: NBA owns it? Because the NBA owned it at the time, 499 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: But but Jordan Jordan would have to approve of it 500 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: now because he's not part of the players Association. Oh 501 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: Okay explained to me the recent physical card phenomenon, where 502 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: like who's driving this that you know? We know Mickey 503 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Mantle seems to come up every other year or something, 504 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Mike Trold and Tom Brady Rookie card. 505 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: Who's behind all of this? I think it's what's behind 506 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: all this? Dan, I think it's that in COVID, we're 507 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: looking for nostalgia. We're looking to reach back at times 508 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: when things were normal. People are going through and cleaning 509 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: their closets, their parents are cleaning their closets, They're finding 510 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: things and finally, finally, this is the key. We need 511 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: some excitement in our lives. We need some dopamine to 512 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: be rushing through our brains and body. Go try out 513 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: an eBay auction. See, when you win an eBay auction, 514 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: it's an immediate rush. It's almost like I'm telling you, 515 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: it's not only about the card, It's about the feeling 516 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: it generates when you win an auction, and so it 517 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: becomes addictive in a way. Why sports gambling up? We 518 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: need to juice ourselves up because we're sitting at home 519 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: with for me, for God's sakest, twin boys in first 520 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: grade right outside my door. You know, it's like, what, Yeah, 521 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: but you're not going to spend a million dollars on 522 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: a Tom Brady Rookie card just because you're not going 523 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: to spend a million dollars. But I've spent more money 524 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: than I've ever spent in my life in the last 525 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: eight months. What have you bought? I bought a what's 526 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: the most expensive thing I bought? Um? I mean I 527 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: bought some serious stuff I bought. I bought a Mike 528 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: Tyson nineteen eighty six panini sticker. Those things are going 529 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: for sixty thousand and seventy thousand in some conditions. I 530 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: bought a Jordan Rookie I had to have an eighty 531 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: sixth leer. You know. So people are people are buying, 532 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of it is the feeling it generates 533 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: and the camaraderie. Right like when you buy it, there's 534 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: a collecting community that you then share. It forces you 535 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: to have relations with people not in the Bill Clinton, 536 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: not in the Bill Clinton relations, but you know relations. Okay, 537 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: But if you're looking at getting into this, U can 538 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: you dip your toe into this? Or do you have 539 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: to go into the deep end? No, it's but it's 540 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: it's very risky, right because you have to know who 541 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: who's controlling certain markets. So, like I'll give you an example. 542 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: One of my friends who has plenty of money, says, 543 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: I want to do Luca don chich And I say, well, 544 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: you got to be careful because Luca twenty one to 545 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: twenty five year olds who don't have the same net 546 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: worth as you. They're going into Luca cards. And what 547 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: happens is if the market starts to crash, they're gonna 548 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: sell Luca and then that market will crash before everything else. 549 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: So I tell people, try to figure out who's in 550 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: what you want to collect, and it starts with having 551 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: you have to like what you're doing, right, Like, not 552 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: all markets are going to stay up forever. I know 553 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: that's a crypto thing. You Oh, it's just gonna go 554 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: to the moon. Everything's gonna go to the moon. It's 555 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: gonna all go up everything never, nothing ever goes down. 556 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: Don't start with that philosophy. Get in trouble. But we've 557 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: had you know, Mike Trout had a rookie card that 558 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: why is it one of one? I never understood that 559 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: they only make one fall scarcity, right, So like they 560 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: decided to create this Mike Trout super fractor where it 561 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: was the lotto ticket, it was Willy Wonka And so 562 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: did I ever think that was going to sell for 563 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: three point nine million dollars? No, but this whole we've created, 564 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: this whole false scarcity. If you remember Dan in the 565 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties, the reason it crashed is because they 566 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: told us that the Ken Griffy Junior Rookie card was 567 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: limited edition. Then we found out it was the most 568 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: produced card of all time, and these guys were running 569 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: off shoots of Ken Griffy Junior to pay for their 570 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: pizza using it as currency. So like we needed to 571 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: create a false scarcity and so that's what that's what 572 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: the card industry did. This is one of forty nine, 573 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: this is one of one, and if you pull that 574 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: Willy Wonka, you then get it graded, and then there's 575 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: a whole grading industry. So like you get a Michael 576 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: Jordan in a one that was run over you that 577 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: you actually put literally in the spokes of your bicycle, 578 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: and that in the worst condition is going to sell 579 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: for four thousand now, but if you have a ten, 580 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: that's six hundred and fifteen thousand. So the one thing 581 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: that I hate Dan is when someone goes, oh, I 582 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: have this card, and I'm like, he doesn't matter if 583 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: you have the physical car, if it's not a tent 584 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: like so that that that's how it's worked. I had it. 585 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: I had somebody who works for somebody who's pretty famous 586 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: in this business, and he was asking me, you know 587 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: if I collected cards, and I said, yeah, I got him, 588 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: but I don't know if they're worth anything. And I said, 589 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, my son's got Pokemon cards. He went, wait, 590 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: which one's which? Which one's last toy? And I said 591 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: the chars art and he goes, you gotta take pictures, 592 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: like how many do you have when I go, I 593 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: don't know, my son have has him in a notebook 594 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: or a scrapbook? You go a binder? Yeah, can you go? 595 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: You imagine you're You're like, I have a nineteen sixty 596 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: one Will Chamberlain Flear Rookie and he's like, oh okay, 597 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: He's like, but my son is Pokemon. Oh my god. 598 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: It's almost like disrespect, you know, like you care more 599 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: about a fake dragon than you care about Will Chamberlain Rookie. Like, 600 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: this is messed up. This is messed up. I had 601 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: to take my phone out and open up the scrapbook 602 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: for you were doing a lot, you were doing a 603 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: live yes, and then you could hear the disappointment in 604 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 1: the guy that's not a first edition from Japan. Forget 605 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: about it, Dan, I'm sorry. Look at the edge, the edges, 606 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: Oh they're not done. Those aren't okay. Yeah, those aren't 607 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: worth anything. And I went okay. So that that was 608 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: my foray into possibly being in that world for first. 609 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: The hardest thing that I that I do every day 610 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: is people texting me saying I got it, and I'm like, 611 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: that's not the one. It's in a horrible condition, you know, 612 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: and it's all, you know, it's just it's at the end. 613 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: It's just disappointing for a lot of people. Crazy. The 614 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: most expensive card ever bought is that the Pie Trainer 615 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: one is Mickey Nanials now the five. So Mickey Mantle 616 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: nine from nineteen fifty two Tops sold for five point 617 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: two million. There are three tens and all those people 618 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: are not selling. It's believed that that would be a 619 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: twenty million dollar card. The great part about that is 620 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty two Mickey Mantle was number three eleven 621 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: in the set. It was the high number series, so 622 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: it was the second set that they came out with, 623 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: and in nineteen fifty two. People were disinterested after the 624 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: first set, So from nineteen fifty two to nineteen fifty nine, 625 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: Tops tried to sell those things for two cents a card. 626 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: Couldn't do it, so they took a lot of the 627 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: cards and went in Staten Island and dumped it on 628 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: a barge into the ocean, and that created a false 629 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: scarcity or a real scarcity, and then the rest put 630 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: it in bicycles and the rest through the moms threw 631 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: it out. So my favorite line, by the way, is 632 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: I wish my mom didn't throw it out, and then 633 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: I remind them that if their mom didn't throw it out, 634 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: it would be worth nothing. Anyway. Darren, great to talk 635 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: to you, and good luck with the twins. All right, 636 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: take care. That's Darren Ravelle, the executive producer for the 637 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: Action Network. Yeah. I don't get it, but I did 638 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: have somebody who wanted to know because I have a 639 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: bunch of cards. I got Nascar cards, I got in 640 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of car yeah when I was when I 641 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: was at the mother Ship. No, I didn't collect him. 642 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: They would just send me the entire set, and I thought, well, 643 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: I got something up there that's probably valuable. And then 644 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody who does this for a living, 645 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I got I got all these trading 646 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: cards from this company and that company from you know, 647 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety seven. They're like, yeah, 648 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: it's not worth anything. I go nothing. Yeah. Point, My 649 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: father in law kept hundreds of boxes of baseball cards 650 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: from the eighties and nineties, but they're all in the packs. 651 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: So my family doesn't know whether to take the packs 652 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: open and look to see what's in there and sell 653 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: them individually, or just sell the box, like, you don't 654 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: know who'd advise you on these things you want to 655 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: he like, memorability advisors. Well, then I heard that they 656 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: don't put gum in there anymore because the gum ruins 657 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: the card. Part of the reason why you open up 658 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: the package to get the gum that cardboard text your 659 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: gum five choose out of it and none is no 660 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: good chalky gum. Yeah no, yeah, see I love it. 661 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: Darren Lls like, yeah, well, even if your mom didn't 662 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: throw them away, they wouldn't be worth anything. We'll take 663 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: a brank class call for phone calls. Oh, I got 664 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: some news on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Have that for you 665 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: coming up nex. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 666 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 667 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on 668 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the 669 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the 670 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: Peacock app. Adam Schefter reporting Bud Dupree is headed for 671 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: free agency. Great Steeler linebacker he was franchise last year 672 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: headed to free agency now, and it appears Shack Barrett 673 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: has headed there as well. For the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 674 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: chefty reporting the Buccaneers informed Chris Godwin he is being 675 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: franchise tag. We also had Dan Orlovsky for the Mother's 676 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: Ship on in the second hour of the program, and 677 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: he's not all in on the Cowboys with Dak Prescott, 678 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: and I asked him, did the Cowboys have a good 679 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: day yesterday? The Cowboys did not. Dak Prescott did. Dak 680 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: Prescott's family did. But this is a big time swinging 681 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: miss for the Cowboys. I think that they took a 682 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: calculated risk. You know, they tried to be patient and 683 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: patient and patient and didn't want to do something like 684 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: the Rams and the Eagles did. But man, that is 685 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: a ton of money to give Dak Prescott. And Orlovsky 686 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: always likes to say, you don't want to give a 687 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: good quarterback great quarterback money paraphrasing him here, And it 688 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: feels like Dak Prescott, by all accounts, is a good, 689 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: very good quarterback. Can he be a great quarterback? But 690 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: this is the going rate, this is the market. I 691 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: don't want to give a quarterback who's good forty million dollars. 692 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: But that's what happened. This is this is the progression 693 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: there that the next guy, and the next guy, and 694 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: the next guy. I mean, what's what's Josh Allen gonna 695 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: be worth? What's Lamar Jackson gonna be worth more than 696 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott? In two years, we'll look back on Dak 697 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: Prescott's contract and go, all right, it's not that bad. 698 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: It feels like uh, Ed in Texas joining us? Hi, Ed, 699 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Good morning man? How are 700 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: y'all this morning? Good morning in beautiful? Hey, that's wanting 701 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: to relate. I saw a video of Dak Prescott last year. 702 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: He was seven weeks post surgery. He was still on crutches. 703 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: I mean, my god, that's just not a good look. 704 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean I had that exact same injury in my thirties, 705 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: and even though I couldn't marangue or do the chacha, 706 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: at least all was in a walking boot by then. 707 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a bad risk saying I agree, I 708 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: don't know enough about that. Thank you, Ed. You know, 709 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: we can come back from knee surgery, but when you 710 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: break your ankle, and it was a pretty bad break, 711 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: I'd just at that position the guy who is not 712 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: a stationary quarterback, and that would be cause for concern 713 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 1: for me, But I'm going to guess that the Cowboys 714 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: fully vetted this and Dak is progressing nicely, and of 715 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: course the surgery is all surgeries are, was successful. Georgian Ohio, 716 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: Hi George, what's on your mind today? Good morning Dan, 717 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: Good morning Georgia. A quick comment and then a mock headline. Okay, 718 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 1: like I said yesterday, doctor j and my favorite player 719 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: all the time. That was a great, great interview. I 720 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: always like to hear stories about the old ABA. I 721 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of mystery there still when they 722 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: had good players. The elm Obayed email, Daniels a bunch 723 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: of others. Yeah, are you ready for the mark? Yeah? Sure, 724 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: Dak is no quack, he is Jones and for a 725 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 1: new contract. Okay, thank you, George. Wow, Fritzie suddenly feels 726 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: a little better, a little bit better, a little bit better. Yeah, Paul, 727 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: he kind of sounds like the beef It's what's for 728 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: dinner guy? Remember that the commercial ad beef It's What's 729 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: for dinner? He sounds like that guy, Tenior Loyne George 730 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: does Yeah, just like him. Okay MC in Colorado, Hi 731 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: am seeing what do you have for me? Yeah? Good morning, gentlemen, 732 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: I have a Since it's towards the end of the show, 733 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: I figured we end on almost a sweet note, so 734 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: to speak. A cool fact or a cool athlete that 735 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: you guys are talking about earlier for baseball, the one 736 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: and only mister King Griffie Jr. Okay, going back to 737 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: going back to back with your dad. Yeah, named being 738 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: named after your dad. Pretty cool. Backwards had pretty cool shoes, 739 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Also had a pretty cool career. All right, well, 740 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: thank you MC. That's a lot of pretty cool stuff. Yeah, 741 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: it is a lot of pretty cool stuff. Yeah. MC 742 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of cool stuff with Ken grifuture. He 743 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: was the coolest. Yes, he was Shoo's cool. Yeah. Backwards 744 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: had cool, his swing, cool, everything about him cool. Finnal 745 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: results pull question McLevin, who had the best offseason quarterback strategy? 746 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: The rams right away with it. Do you have this 747 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: day in sports history poem? Yes, doctor Julius Irving was 748 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: nicknamed the doctor and his friend was nicknamed the Professor. No, 749 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: but that that's not I know. I made it up. 750 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to get that. Now that's what you learned. 751 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: That's not what this day in sports his. No, I 752 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: don't have any good. So you weren't prepared. No, they're terrible. 753 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: Nadia Coman each was born, Todd. What'd you learn today? 754 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: Daniloski and Tim Kelso say it was a great day 755 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott. Guess they not so much for the cowboys. 756 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: What did I learn on today's program? Todd? But we 757 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: all learned that. You think we're going to look back 758 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: and say the Chief's got Patrick mahomes for a bargain. 759 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: What we learned brought to you buy Mercedes Benz Vans. 760 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 1: They go far beyond from their customization options, cutting edge tech, 761 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: five star sales service, financial support crew. Mercedes Benz Vans 762 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: are build equipped and engineered to be ready for anything. 763 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: Go the extra mile, step into an authorized dealership today. 764 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We'll do it again tomorrow here 765 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: on the Dan Patrick Show. Close out the show with Callaway. 766 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: Finally got the epic speed Driver. And as soon as 767 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: I got it, Mario goes, are you're going to use 768 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: that driver? And I go, I just got it? All right? Well, 769 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: if you're not going to use it, I'd like to 770 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: use it. I just got it. Callaway's using artificial intelligence 771 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: to bring you the future of speed. The Epic Speed Driver. 772 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 1: It contains a jailbreak speed frame. What it does is well, 773 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's about science. It helps reduce the 774 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: amount that the driver head twist and deforms when you 775 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: hit the ball. That's the speed frame, so the energy 776 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: the more energy will stay on the driver's face and 777 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: transfers to the golf ball. What it means is you're 778 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: gonna hit it farther. Jailbreak speed frame is pretty impressive 779 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: of the Epic Driver, just about for every driver, but 780 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: they also have the Epic Max additional forgiveness. The Epic 781 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: Max LS Calloway is not just building drivers, they're framing 782 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: the futures speed. Check out the Epic family of drivers 783 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: Callaway golf dot com, slash Epic