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Now 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: here's your host, Jen Mueller. 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: And we are broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, presented 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: by Sony, the official headphones partner of the Seattle Seahawks. 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 4: John Boyle, it is good to be back this week. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: It is we you know, we missed everyone last week 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: thanks to the power out edge, you know, podcasts. But 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: great to be back. And you know what else is 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: great to be in first place. 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: Yes, it is really good to be in first place. 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: It's really kind of funny how quickly things have turned around. 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: And you knew that that was a possibility when you've 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: got the closest division in football as your division. But 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: it is shocking the turnaround that we have seen, not 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: just in the standings, but I think in the team 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: in general. 24 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I mean you just look at you know, 25 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: going into the by you've lost five or six. There 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: are some real questions about the defense. Granted, the Rams 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: game before the bye looked like the defense was starting 28 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: to turn things around, But all of a sudden, you 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: go beat two division arrivals and the defense just looks 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: phenomenal in both those games. And this season feels a 31 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: heck of a lot different than did a couple of 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: weeks ago. 33 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: The sidelines feel different. Yeah, it was the most energetic 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: I have seen the defense this entire season. And I 35 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 3: will say the twelves were really loud on Sunday and 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: that absolutely contributed. But there was just this energy that 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: was emanating from the defense like it's kind of old 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: school days, which is fitting because Jaron Reid was talking 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: about it last week how he was bringing back kind 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: of that lob style of practice, and I think that 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: that showed up. I'm sure part of that was the 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: opening series where you get two sacks on back to 43 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: back plays, but man, even in warm up, see even 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: when they came out into the field, that is a 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: different feel for this team. 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, and I think again, I think it 47 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: starts back really before the bye, like this defense, as 48 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: you referenced, they had some meetings and Jared Rey talked 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: about kind of getting that lob level of energy and 50 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 2: you know, look he was first to say, Hey, we're 51 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: not trying to be that defense. It's not going to 52 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: be the same. It's not the same players, but just 53 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: that passion, that intensity, the focus on practice, all of 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: that stuff. 55 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: The accountability, yeah, the accountability of practice right, and having 56 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: guys in meeting rooms call each other out. I mean 57 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 3: the coaches, sure, the coaches are going to point things out, 58 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: but there isn't accountability with the players and the leadership 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: group who got together and said we can do better 60 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: and we need to do better. And it is. It's 61 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: showing up. 62 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean it's night and day. Especially 63 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: the run defense. You look at what they're doing is 64 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: to run compared to what we're seeing in that mid 65 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: season stretch where everybody was rushing for one hundred and 66 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: fifty plus against Seahawks, like that just makes all the 67 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: difference in the world for this defense. 68 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: It was forty nine rushing yards allowed last week to 69 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: the Cardinals. That is a Cardinals team that had rushed 70 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: for over one forty in six games. They had compiled 71 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: over three hundred yards of rushing offense in the two 72 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: games prior to facing Seattle, and Arizona was coming off 73 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: a bye, so everything should have been more to their favor. 74 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: But I mean from the first snap of the game, 75 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: it was clearly tilted towards Seattle. Yeah, it was really fun. 76 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: It's fun to see. 77 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: It's also fun to see that lob style and old 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: school Seahawks football coming back in another way. Kobe Bryant 79 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: in his celebration yes on the pick sex. 80 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: Well homage to March and you know, it's funny. He's 81 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: already already where he's probably getting a fine for it 82 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: right shouting NOWT Marshall, maybe see if he wants to 83 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: help out. But it's funny that he was. You know, 84 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: he talked to his family about it. He kind of 85 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: planned it if he ever got the shot to do it, 86 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: and he took advantage of Good for him, and he 87 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: is your NFC Defensive Player of the Week for that 88 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: sixty nine yard pick six. So good for Kobe. I mean, 89 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: he's such a cool story this year of a guy 90 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: that loses his starting job last year, deals with injuries 91 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: and starts this year as a backup, and now he's 92 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: the starter and a real key part of this defense. 93 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: You know, I was talking to him earlier this year 94 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: and he said, it really is a blessing in disguise, 95 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: not the losing the job and not maybe the ups 96 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: and downs, but he's also played three different positions since 97 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: he's been here, and he said, you know, when it 98 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: first happened, it was hard, right because you're trying to 99 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: learn all these things. He goes, Actually that helped me 100 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: learn this defense because I had a different process for 101 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: studying so I could dive in. I also have had 102 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: to communicate across the board, you know, to various teammates 103 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: depending on where I've been on the field, and it 104 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: was like all of that, not that it makes it 105 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: easy this year, but it was like, this is truly 106 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: the blessing and disguise of having to go through what 107 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: I've been through the. 108 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: Last couple yek. He's seen that with a couple other 109 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: defensive backs who he's told us he's leaned on through 110 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: this problem. Says with Quandary Diggs, He's a guy that 111 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: was a nickel in the cornerback early in his career 112 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: before becoming a full time safety. Deshaun Shed, who helped 113 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: coach Kobe Bryant when he was here, played everywhere in 114 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: the secondary Dierner's playing day, So he's had some guys 115 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: to help him get to this point and he has 116 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: taken full advantage of that opportunity. 117 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: I think he still corresponds with Shed he did. 118 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, Shed looks at his tape and 119 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, sends him notes and then he and Quandary 120 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: are really closed, like they text all the time. Just 121 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: you know, ty Kelt talk a little trash to Quandary 122 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: for things and text him about that. So it's yeah, 123 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: both those guys are still very much in his life. 124 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: Well, the Seahawks defense looked really impressive on Sunday, but 125 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: there are still some things that they need to improve on. 126 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: I think that we're willing to let those slide, but 127 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald is not. As he explains what he saw on. 128 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 5: Film explosive wise, in the past, there's still some there. 129 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 5: I think we left some meat on the bone on 130 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 5: some situational stuff. But just this is the again, like 131 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: you go out there with the approach, the attitude, the intent, 132 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 5: the communication, the urgency. How he played the run, can 133 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 5: still apply some of the calls and like the spirit 134 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 5: of calls and what we're doing. I mean, there's still 135 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 5: there's significant room for improvement as much as you feel like, hey, 136 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 5: we played a really good game, which we did, but 137 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 5: you're leaving the game and hey, we're still hungry to 138 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: improve as well. 139 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: To like, unless he's talking to you after a shutout 140 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl, he's probably gonna tell you, like, 141 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: you know, we're still chasing it. We're still getting better, 142 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: like it's and that's a great attitude to have because 143 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: the day you think, oh, we just held the Cardinals 144 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: to two field goals, we figured it out, like that's 145 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: when somebody comes up and gets you in the next week. 146 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, they're you know, they've been really incrementally getting 147 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: better these last three games, and they feel like they're 148 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: they're not there yet. You know, he's talked about they 149 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: can still turn the ball over more. They know there's 150 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: things they can do to get better. So as good 151 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: as it's been, you know, let's just keep building on it. 152 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: And as Mike would say, keep stacking. 153 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, And the number one thing when he was asked 154 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 3: a week ago what he wants to see from his defense. 155 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: It was more takeaways. You get one from Kobe Bryant 156 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 3: on Sunday almost oh my gosh. Oh there was a 157 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: couple ones. 158 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: As I say, if Leonard hits the arm, oh yeah, 159 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: he hits Kyler's arm a split second sooner there's another 160 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: one as well. But yeah, Julian, the play Julian made. 161 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: That was incredible. 162 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: It's funny. In the moment, I was like, man, that 163 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: was almost Earl Thomas as like I can't say that, 164 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Like you can't, and then Mina times from me a 165 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: spen she tweets. I'm like, okay, well, if Mina is 166 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: going to re all go with it, because yeah, he 167 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: covered so much grounds flying in there and even caught 168 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: it but just couldn't quite get in most. 169 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: It was really fun to watch, and I know that 170 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: coach is probably looking at a lot of those plays 171 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: from Trey McBride, right, the tight ends that had, you know, 172 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: all the yards and all the offense and talking to 173 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: those guys after the game, Look, there's going to be 174 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: some give and take. Yeah, if you allow fewer than 175 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: fifty rushing yards, they're going to move the ball somehow. 176 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: But you could tell when Seattle went on that eight 177 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: minute drive to essentially close things out. If you can't 178 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: run the ball, you're not going to be able to 179 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: stay on the field. So I understand what Mike is 180 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: saying about the explosives. He would like to limit those. 181 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: And also that was kind of the trade off in 182 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: that game, is how I would. 183 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Look at it. And even the explosives, we're not talking 184 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: forty fifty yard rights, yeah, bombing over you. It was 185 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: he was getting between layers of coverage and getting fifteen 186 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: to twenty yard which you don't want. But Mike McDonald's 187 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: not going to say this, but like, I can live 188 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: with Trey McBride doing that to you if you're not 189 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: getting run on at all, and if the receivers aren't 190 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: killing yet. I mean, if that's. 191 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: Exactly against a top tier running back, exact right, Like, yeah, 192 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: it wasn't the backup or the backup to the backup. 193 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, James Connor is a heck of over. That was 194 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: his fewest yards since his rookie season when he was 195 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: barely getting carries. 196 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: Ooh good notes. 197 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, way did do some deep die on seven carries. Wow. Yeah, 198 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: they shut that down. 199 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: There you go, And it is why I think that 200 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: there should be a lot of confidence for this defense, 201 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: not just for the one game, but to stack them 202 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: back to back against division opponents and teams that had 203 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: been playing really well coming into the matchups against Seattle, 204 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: and in fact, coach does see a place where confidence 205 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 3: can grow. 206 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 5: We're confident in our process and you have to go 207 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 5: through all the steps to have confidence stepping out there 208 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: on Sunday. So you can't skip steps, you can't go 209 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 5: around stuff. 210 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: You got to go through it. 211 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 5: And the guys know that. But and this we've been 212 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 5: doing it the whole time, but trying to get better 213 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 5: our process. Look, we're still we're still We're always gonna 214 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 5: have the mentality of you know, how do you find 215 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: an edge here? How do you find an edge of 216 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 5: their process wise? But I think it's coming into focus 217 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 5: on what it takes to know to play at a 218 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 5: high level. 219 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: We're broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, presented by Sony, 220 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: the official headphones partner of the Seattle Seahawks. I know 221 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: that Mike McDonald talks about process a lot, and I 222 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: think that that is I think sometimes it sounds boring. 223 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: It is so cool to see at work. Yeah, because 224 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: they've had a good process. They have talked about it 225 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: the entire time, the scouts have talked about it, the 226 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: GM has talked about right, everybody in the building has 227 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: talked about the process. It's really hard to stick with 228 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: that process when you don't see the results they have 229 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: the results are coming. I think that's maybe the best 230 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: part of these last two months. 231 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is before they won these past two games, 232 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: when it's you know, it's a lot easier to talk 233 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: about the process when it's going well. But coming out 234 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: of the buy, before these two wins, one of the 235 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: things he talked about is that process of like how 236 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: do we get from Monday what we do Monday through Saturday, 237 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: of how we teach it, how we coach it, how 238 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: the players do it on the practic field, and build that. 239 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: I think he called it an assembly line to the 240 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: final product, which is what you do on the field Sunday. 241 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: And Man, it's been really good. 242 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: And he's taken player input on that one. He's taken 243 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: coaches input on that one. I mean, he had an 244 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: idea of what he wanted to do when he came 245 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: in here, and he has shown that he has a 246 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: growth mindset and that he is willing to take feedback 247 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 3: into make. 248 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: Jump, which is great for a first time head coach 249 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: because you can have everything in your head of how 250 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: it should be and you can be Okay, maybe this 251 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: is how we did the last place I was, but 252 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: in the first time doing it, you got to have 253 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: a flexibilion. He's done that. He's listened to players, He's 254 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: tweaked their schedules a little different than it was going 255 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: into the by They've tweaked a few things here and there. 256 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: So I like that he's you know, he obviously has 257 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: his core principles. He's gonna stick to you, but he's 258 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: willing to tweak things around to maximize what they're getting. 259 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: And when you talk about the last place he was at, 260 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: there's some early similar comparisons to Baltimore and when their 261 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: defense started to turn around in Mike's first year as 262 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator, and where Seattle is and where the 263 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: defense is turning around, and so you. 264 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 4: Start to go, oh, is this kind of what you expect? 265 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 3: No, it is not at all the same, which was 266 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: a little bit surprising to me. 267 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 5: I think the learning curve in Baltimore was very much 268 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 5: my responsibility of having I didn't have a clear enough 269 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 5: vision of what we were trying to do early enough, 270 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 5: and when we traded for Rokuon and we decided to 271 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: play a certain way, it kind of forced our hand. 272 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 5: So I realized there's parallels and like when they when 273 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: it's happening in the season, but it was just center 274 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 5: a little bit different circumstance. I think here it's we 275 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 5: have a vision, we have a very clear vision of 276 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 5: what we're trying to achieve, and we're just hammered away 277 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 5: at it until in trying to make incremental improvements until 278 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 5: it's kind of coming to life. 279 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impossible not to look at the timing of 280 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: the turnaround and the fact that you went out and 281 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: acquired a really good middle linebacker in the middle of 282 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: the season, kind of right as this turnaround has happened. 283 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: It's really easy to look at that and say, oh, 284 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: it's the same thing. But as he said, it's a 285 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: different scenario obviously different players, And I think he alluded 286 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: to this on his radio show Monday. A lot of 287 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: it is just you have a whole new coaching staff. 288 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: They're all new working ticket. It's not just that they're 289 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: new to Seattle and these players, they're new working together. 290 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: Very few of these guys have ever spent time working together. 291 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: And so as much as you're not going to come 292 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: in week one and say, oh boy, there's gonna be 293 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: growing pains. This is all new, like it's kind of 294 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: inevitable and you can't it's probably, as he said, it's 295 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: probably better for the long term to get the right staff, 296 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: even if it's gonna have some of that. But you 297 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: can't just come in week one with all those new 298 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: guys and just be perfect for seventeen weeks. And so 299 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: I think what we're seeing this turnaround is, yes, getting 300 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: Ernest Jones really helps. Adding some of the guys I have, 301 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: making some of the changes they have has really helped. 302 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: But more than anything, I think it's just you're giving 303 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: these players and coaches week after week to build together 304 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: and grow this defense. 305 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: And he was asked this week, you know, in hindsight, 306 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: would he do it differently and hire more coaches that 307 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: he knows now side note, when you were a young 308 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: coach in the NFL, your network of coaches is. 309 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: Not that large to choose, and he was late building 310 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: the staff because of the timing of the playoff run. 311 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: So even in hindsight, there's not a whole lot that 312 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: you could do differently on that one. And I loved 313 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: his answer. He said, well, that's the easy way out. 314 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the easy answer and the easy way out. 315 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: The thing that you should be doing is putting together 316 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: the best staff you possibly can, whether I knew them 317 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: before or not. 318 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe maybe you're better in week four if 319 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: you have a staff full of Baltimore guys, But are 320 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: you better in twenty twenty six? Yeah, probably not. And 321 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: that's his point, is like he's not trying to win 322 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: every you know, obviously trying to win every game, but 323 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: he's not focused on what's the best thing for the 324 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: first half of this season. It's what's the best thing 325 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: for the long term future of this organization. And he 326 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: felt like he went out and found the best coaches, 327 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: regardless of background, to build a staff. And side note, 328 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: even if you felt like, oh, I should have done differently, 329 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: are you gonna say. 330 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: That, No, that is right, I know, but I but. 331 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: You know you're right, I really botched it building this 332 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: coaching staff. Let's reset and start over in week twelve. 333 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: Of course he wasn't gonna say that, but I think 334 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: he made a good point. Okay, well, thank you for 335 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: conceding that one. 336 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: Either way, Lumenfield was rocket On Sunday, I could hardly 337 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: hear myself think, which is why you might need some 338 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: Sony headphones this NFL season. 339 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,119 Speaker 4: Feel every play, every hit, every. 340 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: Moment with a Sony one thousand XM five noise canceling headphones, 341 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: the official headphones of the Seattle Seahawks. With premium noise cancelation, 342 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: You're in the zone, no distractions, just pure football. Whether 343 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: you're in your living room or on the go, you 344 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: will never miss a beat with Sony headphones. We can 345 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: talk about the Seahawks offense, yes, and we can talk 346 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: about the Jets, which I can't believe were this far 347 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: and we have not talked about the Jets. I gotta 348 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: be honest, I'm not that intrigued about the Jets. After 349 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: they decided that they're going to start Aaron Rodgers this 350 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: week and that he's not going to be cut, and 351 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: now he's saying that if he plays in twenty twenty five, 352 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: as if this is his decision anymore, he would like 353 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: to stay in New York. I'm kind of over the 354 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: whole Jets thing. I gotta be honest, there's a bit 355 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: of drama there, a bit a bit. 356 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: You know, they fire their coach and GM this season, 357 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: their quarterbacks in the news all the time. It's interesting. 358 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: Well, their quarterback has also lost seven of their last 359 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: eight games and is completing just sixty three percent of 360 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: his passes during that stretch with seven interceptions. 361 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: Let's make it eight or nine. 362 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: Let's sure. 363 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, let's do that. 364 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: I do. 365 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: I say all of that, and you still can't overlook 366 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: Aeron Rodgers. And they are coming off a bye, so 367 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: whatever injuries he has had, which there have been a 368 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: number of them this year, he has an extra week 369 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: and he is still one of the greatest quarterbacks I 370 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: have ever seen it. 371 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: And their production was better offensively in their last game 372 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: before the buye and he said in his podcast appearance 373 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: he does every week. He said that he was starting 374 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: to feel better in that Colts game, So yeah, I don't. 375 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: You know, Look, we've seen it both for the Seahawks 376 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: and every other team. Like in this league. You can't think, oh, 377 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: well we have the better record or the mortal team 378 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: and just assume a win in any week. So it's 379 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's never easy and got to you gotta 380 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: take every game just as seriously. 381 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: Here's what we do know about that offense. They are 382 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: averaging just under three hundred yards of offense, and they 383 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: are really doing it through the air. I mean, if 384 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: you look at the numbers, whatever they're getting is coming 385 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: through the air. Because they've got just about eighty seven 386 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: rushing yards a game. They are one of the few 387 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: teams that are below Seattle in those rush totals. 388 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: I tell you what, though, I still that's run game 389 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: because of Breese Hall. Yes still gives. He's averaging five 390 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: yards of carry his last four games, so the carries 391 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: aren't there. 392 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: But you know, in some ways, it's a little bit 393 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: like ken Walker because when you look at this, yeah, 394 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: he might not be getting yards on the ground. He is, however, 395 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: getting explosive plays, and he's getting yards from scrimmage. He's 396 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: got twenty explosive plays on his own that is tied 397 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: for eighth most among all running backs. And when you 398 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: start looking at yards from scrimmage, I mean you're up 399 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: there at eighty to ninety a game. 400 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was he have four hundred seven receiving 401 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: yards on top of the rust yard so again, like 402 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: he's he's not putting up the Gaudi, Like he's not 403 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 2: stats where he's among the lead leaders in anything. But 404 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: he's still a heck of a pack he is. 405 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: And I know you can't take him for granted. Or 406 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 3: how about Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson, Like, yes, yards, he's 407 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 3: going to be their leading receiver. Forty seven percent of 408 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: his yards come after the catch. You know who else 409 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: is in that range across the NFL. 410 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess maybe Jackson Smith and Jigba. 411 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and hey, all right, Jackson is about forty 412 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: five percent of his yards come after. 413 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: Catch, forty five yard screens help that. 414 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: I do like that play call. 415 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: That's a really that's a really good play call. 416 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: On that one. When you, hey, when this team starts 417 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: getting screenplays to work, that's something that's been all that is. 418 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: It's been a long time starting. 419 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: Yes, it's like, but it's different when it's an inside 420 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: screen versus an outside screen. They can't set up the 421 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: outside screen. 422 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: Fairy well, I don't care how you get it done, 423 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 2: because this isn't just it's fascinating. I'm getting off top 424 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: of it, Like this was not a single coordinator or quarterback. 425 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 2: This goes back to like Home Grean era, like multiple 426 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: head coaches, coordinators, quarterbacks. It's wild. It's been like a 427 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: curse of this franchise. 428 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: Now, what I will say is every analyst or everybody 429 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: who's ever played football will tell you if you don't 430 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: practice it to the same level that you practice everything else, 431 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: you're not going to have that success. When you have 432 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: marshaw on, you don't need a big screen game. 433 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: I guess that's true. So if I I'm just saying. 434 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: I know, I agree, I agree because I used to 435 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: cringe and I'm like. 436 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: Oh, you see it working, Like, oh, this is fun 437 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: when you do it to others. 438 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: Good. I like this. 439 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: I tell you what. We're going to dive into the 440 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 3: Seahawks offense and the Jets defense in just a second. 441 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: But right now, let's get a word from our presenting sponsor. 442 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: Statistically, the world is losing color. 443 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: Just consider all white kitchens, beige baby nurseries, a sea 444 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: of gray cars. 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With six sacks and thirty six pressures. That's 455 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: the second most sacks for an interior d lignement. Also 456 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: second most pressures from an interior delignement. 457 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and going back to the conversation, if you can't 458 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: look at a teams record and just say, oh, we've 459 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: got this when one of their strengths is an area 460 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: where quite frankly, you've probably struggled the most on offenses. 461 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 2: Your interior line pass rush. That's been an issue at 462 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: times for the Seahawks. And you're probably missing one of 463 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: your starting guards with Anthony Bradford with ankle injury. That's 464 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that kind of player right there, can change 465 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: a game quite a bit. Sucks are going to need 466 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: to have a good plan for Quinn Williams well. 467 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 3: And when you talk about being without a guard. Apparently 468 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a competition this week in practice, 469 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: which I thought was a little surprising. Not that they 470 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 3: shouldn't look at all options, but Anthony Bradford plays what 471 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 3: five snaps on Sunday he lives with an ankle injury. 472 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: Christian Haynes comes in and I think maybe first half 473 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: felt like he was holding his own maybe a little 474 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: bit better than the second half. And here is how 475 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald kind of evaluates how he performed. 476 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: You know, Satala is someone that we're going to take 477 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: a long look at as well. 478 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: So but Christian played. 479 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 5: Winning football for us. But want him to grow, keep growing, man, 480 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 5: you know, like you got to go prove it every 481 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: week on the on the practice field and in preparation. 482 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: And but right now, I mean just happy that, like, look, 483 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 5: there's a lot of credit for having a guy that 484 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 5: was rotating in and ab kind of took over, still prepared, 485 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 5: knew all knew all the things that we you know, 486 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 5: no mentals on the day, but some technic stuff we've 487 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 5: got to get cleaned up. 488 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: But overall enough, you know, good enough to. 489 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 5: Win the game. So happy with this ability to step 490 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: in and help us win. 491 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: The football game. And I found that particularly interesting because 492 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: the question was not like, oh, if Anthony Bradford can't play, 493 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 2: what's the plan or is there competition? The question was 494 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: very pointedly about Christian Haynes getting an opportunity, and he 495 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: sort of corrected that notion of well, let's wait, we're 496 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: gonna give gives us to allow me a chance and 497 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: give him a look there. So yeah, I mean, I 498 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: think we're going to see all the competition this week. 499 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: May who knows, maybe they let both guys play to 500 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: get some game tape on both of them. But yeah, 501 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: I think we all just assume Christian Haynes he's the 502 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: guy that was rotating earlier in the season. He's a 503 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: guy that came in that game. But they want to 504 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 2: get a look and make it a competitive situation. So 505 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: it be a fun week to see how that plays out. 506 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: And you know, I think it's going to be way different. 507 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: It's hard to come in a game five snaps in 508 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: when you weren't expecting to play. I'm not saying that 509 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: they're not ready or that they haven't prepared, it's just 510 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 3: a different level. Well, yeah, if you're not getting first 511 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: team reps, if you know that Anthony Bradford is starting. 512 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: They get a couple, but it's not It is not 513 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: like having a full week of this, So I think 514 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: that makes a difference. I talked to Abe Lucas after 515 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: last week's game. He's like, yeah, I played all all 516 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: of the snaps on offense. He's like, yeah, I've got 517 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: some stuff I need to correct on that one. But 518 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: you get him back for a second game at essentially 519 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: full strength. That helps the guy alongside of him. And 520 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: maybe this is the week that run game breaks out 521 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 3: John because for as good as this Jets team is, 522 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 3: did you see how many rushing yards they're allowing per game? 523 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: I did not, but I have about one hundred and thirty. 524 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: I'll go with that, about one hundred and thirty. So 525 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: maybe this is the breakout game we get from Ken 526 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: Walker and Zach Sharpine. I know the numbers haven't been there, 527 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean it's not working. 528 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 5: According to coach, you're looking through it of from hey, 529 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: like how we're coming up with our plan, how we're 530 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: implementing it, how we're practicing it, how it's coming to 531 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 5: life on the field. There's some good stuff out there. 532 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 5: It's just not as much as we want it or 533 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: as consistent as we want it. But there's some good 534 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: stuff and our guys are working really hard at it. 535 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 5: Our coaches are dividing some really good plans in my opinion, 536 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 5: that we're still going to still try and improve on, 537 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 5: but we're on the right track. 538 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: And the thing that I really like, like, look, the 539 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: yards haven't been there, that it hasn't been as productive 540 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: as they need to be, but they're not giving up 541 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: on it at this point. Like there was that stretch 542 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: earlier in the year where whether it was just game 543 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: plan or you're playing from behind, where they just weren't 544 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: running the ball. Whereas you'll get Kenneth Walker the last 545 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: three games, sixteen carries last week, fourteen the week before 546 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: twenty five against the Rams, It's like they're they're making 547 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: a real effort to get it done, and I think 548 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: that's how you You know, you've got to commit to 549 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: it a little bit to get it going, and you 550 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: don't want to live with all the negative plays and 551 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: the short yardage runs. But I do feel like if 552 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: they keep hammering at it, there's going to be an 553 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: opportunity for to pop. And as you said, the set's 554 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: defense has given up some yards. Maybe maybe this is 555 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: a chance for ken Walker to really get going. 556 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, in his postgame interview, he said, look, I don't 557 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 3: really care how I get yards as long as we're 558 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 3: getting yards. But of course they want to be able 559 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: to run the ball. He is also the one I 560 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: really I love the leadership role that he's taking on. Yeah, 561 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 3: he's he is mostly quiet, but he is becoming more vocal. 562 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: He is the one that told the team on that 563 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 3: eight minute drive, we are going to run the ball 564 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: and we're going to like close this out. He was 565 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: actually a little bit upset that they couldn't take more 566 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: time off the clock on that one. But he's the 567 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: one that said, yeah, let's go, let's get it done, Like, 568 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 3: let's let's keep pounding away at this one. So the 569 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: mentality is there. Yeah, the play calls are there. I 570 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: think sometimes that Yeah, it's moving bodies in front. I 571 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: don't know, there's a lot. Yeah, when it when it 572 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: is going, well, it looks so easy. 573 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: It does. 574 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 3: You're like. 575 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: When teams are humming in the wrong game, like, wow, 576 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: you do this all the time. 577 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 4: Time, just keep calling this play all the time. 578 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: Fortunately, it's not that easy in this League, No it 579 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: is not. 580 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: The Seahawks Insiders Podcast is broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, 581 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: presented by Sony, the official headphones partner of the Seattle Seahawks, 582 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: who are a perfect eight and no at my life's 583 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: six and six and I was trying to give him 584 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: two extra way and sorry, there's too many numbers in 585 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: my head right now. 586 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: Four and against the Giants, they are one and o 587 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: against the Jets and Seahawks fans might remember the sixth 588 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: game there they played the Broncos. 589 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: That's a pretty fun one. 590 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good. It's a fun one. 591 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: Okay. Well, if we wanted to get another win, yes, 592 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: at that stadium, what would we need to do? Give 593 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 3: me your two things. 594 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: Well, we just talked about the run game. I want 595 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: to see it get going. Doesn't need to be some 596 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: dominant you know, we don't need sake one Barley rush, 597 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: Barkley rushing for two hundred and fifty five yards. I'll 598 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: take it. Yeah, they do that, it'd be great. I 599 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 2: want to just see, you know, let's get the average up. 600 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: So it's those first down negative one yard like zero 601 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: negative plays. Get rid of those, like just get the 602 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: four or five yards on first down, So let's let's 603 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 2: call it like an eighty plus yard game for ken Walker. 604 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: I think that's that's more than enough to get you 605 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: going where you want. And then defensively, I want to 606 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 2: see more of these turnovers, which I know comes from 607 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: you know, stopping them on first down, the pass rush, 608 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: getting going all that. But however, the formulas I want 609 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: to see because that's kind of the one thing Mike 610 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: McDonald's point too, is like this defense is doing a 611 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: lot well, but what's the next step. Let's have like 612 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: a three turnover game. 613 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: I was gonna go with getting to Aaron. 614 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: Rodgers, I think I can. 615 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: Go, well, you know, you've got a couple of Seahawks 616 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: defenders who have played a lot of games in the stadium, 617 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: so maybe it all starts coming. 618 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: Back to them and they just got some memories there. 619 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: Julian would have a few good memories on that one. Yeah, 620 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: Hank would have God, yeah, yeah, there's there's make it 621 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: a special kind of homecoming, how about that? 622 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? 623 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: And I'm going to echo your part on the run game, 624 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: but I want to see as a team over one 625 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: hundred rushing yards. 626 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: That's what I got. 627 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: We're not going to overcomplicate things this week. We're just 628 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: gonna We're just gonna let that roll because the Seahawks 629 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: are going to play four of their remaining six regular 630 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: season games on the road. You just need to come 631 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: away with a win in this one. Any way you 632 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: can do it. That's generally our philosophy here on the podcast. 633 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: Is exactly what we're gonna do next week, because that 634 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: is the next time we will join you on the center. 635 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: Are asterisk always on the Seahawks Insiders Podcast.