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Well, 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: we're at that point of the football season as we 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: count down to the college football playoff which is coming up. 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: In a couple of weeks. 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: And then of course we've got NFL down the stretch. 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: And we got an incredible halftime score right now, the 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: first of two games today in the National Football League, 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, who have been in a free fall 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: as of late, leading the Bengals twenty four to nothing 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: at halftime. This is the most point scored in the 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: first half by a Steelers team in three years. I mean, 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: this illustrates again trying to predict from week to week 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: what's happening in the NFL is impossible. Everyone's talking about 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Jake Browning. He's second in the NFL behind Brock Party 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: and passing efficiency. I've even heard people make the comparison 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: that he's the new Brock Party zero in the first 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: half against the Steelers and suddenly Pittsburgh looks like an 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: offensive juggernaut. 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: No explaining it. 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: This is the NFL, right, Nothing like controversy to right 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: the ship in a locker room and on the team 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: that's you know, looks like it's about to implode. Winning 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: cures all. That's just what it is in sport, you know, 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: whether you know coaches aren't getting along with the players, 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: players aren't getting along with would manage whatever the problem 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: is winning cures all. And what we're doing is we're 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: watching Pittsburgh take its medicine right. It's curing the ailments 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: that have been running rampant through that locker room for 37 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: the last month or so. Lack of effort, guy's not 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: buying in Tomlin, losing his mojo, all of these things 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 4: that we've all been talking about for the last few weeks, 40 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: all of a sudden seem like, huh okay, well maybe 41 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 4: it wasn't that bad. 42 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: Well, what's amazing about this game is the Steeler quarterback 43 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph I wasn't even to. 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: Where he was still in the league. I mean he's played. 45 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: This is only the second game he has played in 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: the last two years. 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 5: Now. 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: They brought Trubisky in and obviously he got Kenny Pickett 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: and Mason Rudolph's still there and he's played well today. 50 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: Now g here, it's got that running game going a 51 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: little bit for the Steelers today and they're winning. But 52 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: this this always gets back to Mike Tomlin. He just 53 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: refuses to have a losing season. He is not gonna 54 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: be saddled with a losing season in his Hall of 55 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: Fame coaching career. 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: He refuses. 57 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: They come into today seven and seven, three games to go, Okay, 58 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: lose two out of three. Man, you got that big 59 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: losing season on your resumes. No one, No, but it 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: won't happen if they win. 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: It happened last year. It's not gonna happen this year. 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: Is unbll believable. It's for Jake Browny today. Two picks 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: in the first half and zero running game for the 64 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: Bengals today. Joe Mixon five carries for four yards. They 65 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: only have one hundred and fifty three total yards in 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: the half. So Pittsburgh leaned this game by a score 67 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: of a twenty four to nothing and of course later 68 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: on today we're gonna get another NFL game featuring a 69 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: team that desperately needs to win versus a team that well, 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: their season is effectively over. That would be the Bills 71 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: on the road against the charge. Let me ask you this, 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: and again, we're gonna have Adam Kaplan, our NFL insider 73 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: is gonna be joining us here in about ten minutes. 74 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: But I want to get your thoughts on the Charger 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: situation because there are stories leaking out everywhere. And this 76 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: is going back to what I said a week ago 77 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: about Jim Harbaugh being the next coach of the Chargers. 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: So Jim Harbaugh, all of a sudden is now we 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: got the NFL insiders jumping on the bandwagon with Jim Harbaugh. 80 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: But I'm thinking to myself, well, wait a second here, 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: based on what we're hearing about the offers to retain 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: them at Michigan, to get him to come to the 83 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: Chargers twenty million a year. Does that sound like a 84 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: Charger situation or is that an intervention by the NFL 85 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: to tell Dean Spanosen company, whatever it takes, you have 86 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: the money, now spend it and get yourself a real coach, 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: not another Mike mccorley or Anthony Lynn or Brandon Staley. 88 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: We need this team to have a legitimate coach with 89 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: a proven track record and the biggest name to move 90 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: the needle to get people interested in the Los Angeles Chargers. 91 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: Is Jim Harbaugh. Spend the money, Dean. That's a mandate 92 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: from the NFL. 93 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that now. I think actually Jim has 94 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: run his course in Michigan. 95 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 5: I agree. 96 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: So whatever those rumors are, whatever that price tag is, 97 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: and Michigan's willing to pay. I mean, you got to 98 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: remember this is the same organization that decreased his salary. 99 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: So you know, I think back to back years and 100 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: the college football playoffs. With an opportunity this year to 101 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: possibly win a national championship, he missed six out of 102 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: the twelve games that they had. 103 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, they won all six. So I think it would 104 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 5: behoove him to move on to the pros. 105 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about the regulations and and 106 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: and you know, buying a kid a sandwich or whatever 107 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: these things are that the NCAA loves to dig into 108 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: and punish people for. I think it's time. I think 109 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: it's time to get back and being in the AFC. 110 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 4: He can, you know, renew his rivalry with his brother. 111 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 4: You know, we love to watch them play in the 112 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. That was amazing and I really think it's 113 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 4: time And why wouldn't you want to come back when 114 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 4: you have a Rolls Royce as a quarterback? 115 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 5: Right? 116 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean Justin Herbert obviously is a great starting piece 117 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: to put an organization together. And let's go back to 118 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: when he took over as the forty nine Ers head coach. 119 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: That organization had hit the skids. That Alex Smith, a 120 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: quarterback who was what is since he had joined that team, 121 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: he had gone through five offensive coordinators in five years. 122 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: It was absolutely crazy. After being the number one overall 123 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: pick in the draft in two thousand and five. And 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: then suddenly Harbaugh comes in. He writes the ship with 125 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: Alex Smith. And then he has this kid, Colin Kaepernick's 126 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: sitting there on the bench and he sees more potential 127 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: to get him in the game. He benches Alex Smith 128 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: despite the fact that he's winning, and he puts Kaepernick 129 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 2: in and the next thing you know, they're inches away 130 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: from winning a Super Bowl. Reebtree was that close. 131 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: They were a power outage, yes away. From winning a 132 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. That's close. He got the three straight NFC 133 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: Championship games and then his fourth. 134 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: Herey over state is welcome. I mean, that's the way 135 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: Harville is. He will give you the jolt. 136 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 5: Give the jolt. The Bolts need the jolt. 137 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: They need the jolt. 138 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: They need the jolt on the field, but more importantly, 139 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: they need a jolt in the market. He from you 140 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: and I are sitting here in this LA market, and 141 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: it's hard for us to translate the apathy for the 142 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: two teams have more of a fan base than the Chargers. 143 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, they just won a Super Bowl two years. 144 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: A right, and they're about to make the playoffs again. 145 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: Yes they are, which, by the way, is remarkable. 146 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: Nobody forgot to tell them that they were supposed to 147 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: be tanking for Caleb Williams. 148 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: I told you that my daughter, Paris babysits Tyler Higbee's daughter, 149 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: and so she was babysitting Thursday night while he was 150 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: at the game. 151 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: And he got home from the game. 152 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 5: Hey we won. 153 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: They only need one more win, one more win and 154 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: they're in the postseason. What a remarkable story for the Rams. 155 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: But still, what the NFL is looking for is a 156 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: groundswell behind the LA teams. 157 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 5: They need it. 158 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: That's what's Missy. 159 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: It's not the fact that aren't Ram fans or even 160 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: a few Charger fans out there, but are they building 161 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: that fan base. This is the Rams seventh season back 162 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: in LA. It's the Chargers six season in LA, and 163 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: it's stagnant. 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Well, let's start with this game going 206 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: on right now. Ivan and I were just talking about 207 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: this was a This was unbelievable. Right. You got Mason 208 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: Rudolph who barely I didn't even know he was still 209 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: on the team. I mean, they brought in they brought 210 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: in Trubisky. Obviously, they have Kenny Pickett, but they kept 211 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: Rudolph as their third quarterback, and they scored more points 212 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: in the first half in any game they had in 213 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 2: three years, which I guess again is what we talk 214 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: about with Mike Tomlin. The man refuses to have a 215 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: losing season. They come into this game seven and seven 216 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: against a Bengals team that desperately needs to win. There 217 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: at eight and six, but look at the Steelers, just 218 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: when you think it's over, they show up at least 219 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: for the first half. 220 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 221 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 7: And look, I know there's people saying the team quit 222 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 7: on the head coach. 223 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 5: Obviously that's not the case. They have good energy. 224 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 7: The one thing that Mason Rudolph has over Trubisky is 225 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 7: he's a much more accurate pastor. He's not the athlete 226 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 7: at Trubisky doesn't have the arm that Trubisky has, but 227 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 7: he's a lot more accurate and him and Pickens just 228 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 7: got it done again. 229 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: There it is another touchdown, a perfect pass by Mason. 230 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: Just as I say it, unbelievable. Look at this guy. 231 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: He really is. 232 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 7: In fact, here's the thing, guys, here's the reason why 233 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 7: Trubisky is making a lot of money this season. He's 234 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 7: making eight million with his signing bonus and cash, he's 235 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 7: making exactly eight million. That's why he's the back of 236 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 7: It was a mistake. I'm sure the Steelers would tell 237 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 7: you that. And I can't imagine that that Trubisky was 238 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 7: going to make just over five million. We'll be back 239 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 7: with the team that they missed on that. But George Pickens, 240 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 7: who had a very tough week, had a bad game 241 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 7: last week, should have been banched after a very bad mistake. 242 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 7: They went back to him, and boy, how about this 243 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 7: combo here? 244 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's been tremendous, But I want to talk 245 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: about the things that were going on it You know 246 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: the conversations that were happening off the field about uh, 247 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: the effort, Yeah, of the wide receivers. 248 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 5: And just. 249 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: Over history, right, we've seen skill position, namely the wide receivers, 250 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 4: especially after hinz Warden left. It just they don't remind 251 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: me of stealer type players in terms of ego attitude. 252 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 4: There was a lot of talk about Mike Tomlin losing 253 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: the reins and maybe moving on from the Steelers. 254 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 5: What do you got to say about that, Adam. 255 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 7: No, I don't see it. See what this is the 256 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 7: spec speculation type of year. 257 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 5: You just hit on it. 258 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 7: He never has had a losing, serious season. He's a 259 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 7: Super Bowl winner. 260 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 5: Things got away from him. 261 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 7: From an offensive standpoint, he should have let Matt Cannada 262 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 7: go last year. 263 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 5: That was a mistake. He Canada. 264 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 7: I'm totally pretty close, good, very strong working relationship. They 265 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 7: known each other for several years. It was hard for 266 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 7: Mike to do it. And as one team sort of said, 267 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 7: if it didn't happen, if Kanda came back for another season, 268 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 7: I think Mike would have been in trouble. And Mike 269 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 7: uh just made sure that didn't happen. And what you 270 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 7: need is high character guys like you play with the 271 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 7: guy and Andre Johnson if I'm. 272 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 5: Not mistaken, yes, absolutely yeah. And you know and did 273 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 5: you play with it Megatron? Yes, I thought you did. Yeah. 274 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 7: You know what it's like to be around these special 275 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 7: football players about the team and McCay Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 276 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 7: oh yeah, that's right. With Denver, that's right, Yeah, that's right. 277 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 7: And there's just something that being around these guys. You know, 278 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 7: it's all about the team. 279 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 5: Uh. 280 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 7: DeVante Smith here in Philly is all about that. He 281 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 7: played for Nick Saban. Uh when Eagle Source said he's 282 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 7: he's typically here before most of the coaches. You don't 283 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 7: hear that a lot about receivers. So I'm glad you 284 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 7: brought that up because we don't talk about that a lot. 285 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 7: I know, sometimes they get a bed rap, and a 286 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 7: lot of it is deserved. I mean, you go back 287 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 7: to Pittsburgh, Antonio Brown, we all know his history, Chase 288 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 7: Claypool that the Steelers couldn't give away for a while. 289 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 7: Then inexplicably, the Bear stupidly gave up a second round 290 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 7: pick for him that didn't work out, and then they 291 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 7: got rid of into Miami pick. 292 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 5: His immaturity and by the way. 293 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 7: I'm told that the reason why Pickens did not go 294 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 7: in the first round had nothing to do with his 295 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 7: acl Injrews strictly football character, and that has shown up here. 296 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the flavor of the week. 297 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: That would be the Buffalo Bills narrow loss on the 298 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: road of the Eagles, narrow went on the road against 299 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, them blow the doors off the Cowboys, and 300 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we're hearing boy Nobody wants to 301 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: play the Bills if they see him in the postseason. 302 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: So are you all in on the Bills or are 303 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: you still looking at a team at eight and six 304 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: and they're there because of inconsistencies over the entirety of 305 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: the season. 306 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 7: Well, they've had Steve, They've had major injuries on all 307 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 7: three levels of their defense. The run stop in d tackle, 308 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 7: Daikwon Jones is now he started working. 309 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 5: He's missed most of the season. Matt Malano. 310 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 7: You could argue he's the best defensive player and the 311 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 7: best corner Tue Davis Whites out for the season, So 312 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 7: that's really hurt them. Yeah, Obviously the offensive coordinator change, 313 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 7: Joe Brady doing a good job here two years ago. 314 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 7: He's fired in season, I'm told because he could not 315 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 7: scheme guys open with the Panthers well, doing a good 316 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 7: job here. But the odd thing is Stefan Diggs's role 317 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 7: has completely fallen off here with the OC change, and 318 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 7: they were super Stefan Dick centric. Now they've gone to 319 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 7: more of a run game. James Cook, Dalvin's younger brothers 320 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 7: look terrific. They've now won three out of their last 321 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 7: four games. Uh, they still look they they're they're Unfortunately 322 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 7: they're in the AFC where it's a little bit harder, 323 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 7: so they're they're they're out of the playoff race for now, 324 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 7: but they're actually in a four way tie, but they 325 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 7: lose the tie breakers, uh with the Bengals. If they 326 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 7: Bengals lose tonight, this will help the Bills. With the Bills, 327 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 7: the Bengals, the Texans and the Colts. And by the way, 328 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 7: we talked about this last week with the awards, I'm 329 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 7: telling you right now, I know there's six at least 330 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 7: six quality candidates I'm voting for for I kind of 331 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 7: made up my mind no matter what happens, although Shane 332 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 7: Sticken would be right up there. If the Texans shocked 333 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 7: me and make the playoffs. It's going to be to 334 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 7: mee yeah, I mean this is incredible. We've got a 335 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 7: pair of games here at Big Family. I want to 336 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 7: know which one are you more looking forward to them? 337 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 7: What we can take uh from these two games? And 338 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure you know that they are. Uh. You 339 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 7: got the. 340 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 4: Ravens and forty nine ers on Monday Night game of 341 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: the year, game of the year, and then you have 342 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: the Dolphins and the Cowboys. All right, lot a lot 343 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: on the line in both of these games. 344 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 5: That's the way. Oh well, Dallas, Yeah, I don't know. 345 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 5: I get it. Yeah, yeah, I get where you're going. 346 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 5: But what do you which one are you more looking for? 347 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 7: I'm intrigued by the way that Dallas and Miami could 348 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 7: score and how Dallas is going to play? 349 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: Tyrek ll Tyrek should play? 350 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 7: Uh, but it's should First of all, Why in the 351 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 7: world or the Ravens of five and a half point dog? 352 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 7: It should be three? That would be my line that 353 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 7: surprises me. I think that the Ravens will cover that. 354 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 7: I'm gonna since should because Brock Perdy is I mean, 355 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 7: he's leading the NFL in touchdown passes. Can he get 356 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 7: this done? Against the defense kind of a no name defense, 357 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 7: but so well coached by Mike McDonald, who's going to 358 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 7: be head coaching Ken kind of a young guy and 359 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 7: it's been. 360 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 5: Thirties, but done a great job. 361 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 7: That to me is the the could be the best 362 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 7: game of the year because it's it's it's hard. It's 363 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 7: hard to pick that game in because both you're talking 364 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 7: about the two best teams at eleven and three and 365 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 7: then the Dallas, the Dallas at Miami game. Mimai has 366 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 7: lost one game at home that was a long time 367 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 7: again to Buffalo, but we don't have bad Dallas has been. 368 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 5: On the road now. 369 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 7: Last week, the Cowboys said their practice got interrupted by 370 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 7: a lot of guys having the flu and flu like 371 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 7: symptoms and that that hurt them. Now they go on 372 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 7: the road and they won't have that problem. They're feeling 373 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 7: pretty good here, but they're not going to have their 374 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 7: left tackle this week. 375 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: In Tyron Smith, well, uh, your Dolphins coach getting a 376 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: little hyper sensitive. 377 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: He told members of his team to, with all. 378 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 2: Due respect, as he put it, tell the media to 379 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: f off if they have questions about the fact that 380 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: the Dolphins don't have a single win this year. Against 381 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: a team that currently has a winning record. 382 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 5: And man, sometimes you don't need that at ten and four. 383 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: Well, I mean again, he could have just left it 384 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: at Look, we don't choose its schedule. 385 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: Our job is just beat the team on the field. 386 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: Why does he have to take at that next level? 387 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 5: Because Mike McDaniels is different. 388 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 7: He's kind of surprised me because he's not He's kind 389 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 7: of you know, he's kind of quirky and odd. Actually 390 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 7: could be very friendly seeing with at the combine before. 391 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 7: He's not against striking up a conversation. He's just a 392 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 7: quirky guy, but brilliant. The thing though, guys, the one 393 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 7: thing I will keep an eye on over the next 394 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 7: couple of years is as they continue to be a 395 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 7: really good football team. 396 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 5: This is another team. How Dallas does not handled success. 397 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 7: Well, I'm interested to see because they're the Dolphs are 398 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 7: kind of a cocky team. I'm in to see how 399 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 7: they handle it. They really are really Oh yeah yeah. 400 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 4: So now you've got two teams built with cockiness with 401 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: a lot on the line in that game. Dallas can't 402 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: Dallas is not Dallas on the road. We know that 403 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 4: hard to watch, but out of the two quarterbacks. Who 404 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: if it just came down to those two, right, taking 405 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 4: Purty out of it, who would you be willing to 406 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: bet on? 407 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 7: Probably Dak because he's I know he's had his injuries, 408 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 7: but Tua has not shown me when it counts he 409 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 7: could stay on the field. I know he built his 410 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 7: body up, but that's not the problem. The problem was 411 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 7: with him is when he holds on the ball over 412 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 7: two and a half seconds. That's usually when he gets hurt. 413 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 7: So that would concern me. But you know, if you're saying, Okay, 414 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 7: who's that one guy, I probably want to take Dak. 415 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 7: He's got obviously a much better body of work. It's 416 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 7: a great game, by the way, I'm really looking forward 417 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 7: to that now. You know what's interesting, there are only 418 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 7: four games this weekend where both quarterbacks who start a 419 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 7: week one are starting. 420 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 5: That's that's how bad it's. 421 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: Been this time. That's crazy. It's a lot of guys 422 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 4: who we don't know or care to see playing against each. 423 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: Odge well, I again the quarterback position. And by the way, 424 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: again Jake Browning. You know though, Okay, the Eagles, the 425 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: team you're closest to, should win out. I mean, come 426 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: on home, games against the Giants, the Cardinals road game 427 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: against the Giants. 428 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 5: They should win the nfcist. 429 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: But that latest loss to Drew Locke and the Seahawks 430 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: was a shocker. Three consecutive losses for this Eagles team. 431 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: Where are they right now? Because all eyes are on 432 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers as the runaway favorite right now 433 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. 434 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 3: Should the Eagles still be in the conversation? 435 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 7: Not for the Super Bowl? No, they're a second tier 436 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 7: team with Detroit in Dallas. The Eagles split against Dallas. No, 437 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 7: they're just not good enough now. The Niners came into 438 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 7: filling absolutely hammered them. The game was not even remotely close. 439 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 7: They just dominated after the first quarter that Eagles were 440 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 7: completely shut down. Jalenhart's is struggling, guys. Let's call it 441 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 7: like it is. The craziness of his numbers are he's 442 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 7: going to have a career high in yards in a season. 443 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 7: He has a chance. He still has a chance to 444 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 7: combine for forty touchdowns or more. But he's only thrown 445 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 7: one touchdown pass in his last three games. In fact, 446 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 7: his last touchdown pass came in garbage time against the Niners. 447 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 7: He's not seeing the field well a chance Bradbury, one 448 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 7: of their starting corners is struggling. Darius Lay is out 449 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 7: potentially till the offseason, until the playoffs. Excuse me, he 450 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 7: had knee surgery. Here's the other thing, folks. And you 451 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 7: talk about the Super Bowl hangover, one of the biggest 452 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 7: reasons why teams don't get back. The number one criterier 453 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 7: for that is injuries. All twenty two starters who start 454 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 7: in Week one last year started in the Super Bowl 455 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 7: for the Eagles. Not so much this case. They've got 456 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 7: a lot of guys hurt, and that's part of it, 457 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 7: which is. 458 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: Why again the Buffalo Bill's ability to be the only 459 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: team in the history of the Super Bowl to play 460 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: in four st rates Super Bowls and actually lose them all. 461 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: I still think it's one of the most underrated achievements 462 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: of any team, any franchise in NFL history. Alright, Adam, 463 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: good stuff a lot of times to sort of set 464 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: the table for the rest of Week sixteen. 465 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: We'll talk to again next week. Thanks so much. 466 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 5: Sounds good. 467 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: Thanks Adam Kaplan join us right there, all right. 468 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: Lots going around in the NFL, A lot of playoff implications, 469 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: we're going to get to but right now, let's find 470 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: out what is trendy. Martin is in again doing double duty, 471 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: triple duty. I'm not quite sure. How long have you 472 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: been sitting in that room, Martin. 473 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 5: It's just about ten thirty this morning. 474 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll be here to about eight o'clock tonight. 475 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: All right, That's that's it. He's going the extra mile 476 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: and trying to get paid. Is your new car holding 477 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: it's doing well. Okay, it's doing well. 478 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: We don't want a good ship car fires again. 479 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 8: We're in good shape. No, the only car fire right 480 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 8: now is the Cincinnati Bengals offense. 481 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 5: Oo man I and their defense. 482 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 8: They get lit up, I mean, but I mean Patrick 483 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 8: Peterson is starting in safety for the Pittsburgh Steelers. 484 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 5: Now. 485 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 8: They don't have any more defensive backs pretty much. They're 486 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 8: down to TJ. Watt back there almost. T Higgins had 487 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 8: a seventy five touchdown catch, but that's about our eighty 488 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 8: yard touchdown catch. 489 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 5: But that's about it for Cincinnati. Pittsburgh. 490 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 8: On the other hand, Mason Rudolph making his first start 491 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 8: since twenty twenty one, Well, he's got thirty one on 492 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 8: the board with halfway through the third quarter. No one 493 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 8: had that coming. He's right now, sixteen for twenty four, 494 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 8: two hundred and seventy nine yards, two touchdowns for Rudolph 495 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 8: and George Pickens, four catches, one hundred ninety five yards, 496 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 8: two touchdowns along the eighty six and he's on my 497 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 8: fantasy bench. So there you go with that. College foot 498 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 8: college football. Oh, this game just wrapped up. Air Force 499 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 8: beat James Madison thirty one to twenty one in the 500 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 8: Lockey Martin Armed Forces Bowl. In the famous Idahopa Tata Bowl. 501 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 8: You have Georgia State and Utah State. Georgia State just 502 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 8: scored forty five to fourteen. Is the score there. In 503 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 8: the NBA earlier today, we had two big blowouts as 504 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 8: the Milwaukee Bucks beat the Knicks one thirty to one 505 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 8: to eleven Giannis at twenty eight and Boston Celtics and 506 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 8: the Clippers right one forty five to one oh eight. 507 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 8: Tatum with thirty, Brown with twenty four, Derek White had eighteen, 508 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 8: and that's about it. The high score for the for 509 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 8: the Clippers. Paul George with twenty one. Trevor Lawrence clear 510 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 8: concussion protocol. He'll play against Tampa and tomorrow's game against 511 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 8: the Buccaneers. Jaguars are tied in first to the AFC 512 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 8: South c j S Drowd did not clear a protocol. 513 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 8: He will be benched for Tomorrow's game against the Browns. 514 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 8: The Chiefs will be without wide receiver Cadarius Tony, running 515 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 8: back Jerrick McKinnon, wide receiver Mcole Hartman attack Donovan Smith 516 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 8: neither practice today due to practice this week rather due 517 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 8: to injuries. The Raiders in that same game will be 518 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 8: without tight end Michael Mayer. Titans quarterback Will Levis unlikely 519 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 8: to start against the Seahawks. Ryan Tannehill, you may remember him. 520 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 8: He'll make his first starts as getting benched in week six. 521 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 8: Adam Kaplan just was talking about Devontae Smith. He's off 522 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 8: the injury report. He'll be a full go against the 523 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 8: Giants Monday night. The Eagles will be without, however, linebackers 524 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 8: Zach Cunningham and cornerbacks of Vonte Maddox and Darius Slay. 525 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 5: Steve ephrom Beck to. 526 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: You all right, Martin, thank you very much. 527 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: Once again, We're coming you live from the tai Iraq 528 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: dot com studios. 529 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: This is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Harbin and e from 530 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 3: Salam with you. 531 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: I want to talk about one of the least interesting 532 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: games in the NFL this week. That would be the 533 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: Washingon Commanders on a road against the New York Jets, 534 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: two teams that have already ended their season in terms 535 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: of any hopes of getting into the postseason. But this 536 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: was the game that we had circle for the possible 537 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: return of Aaron Rodgers Christmas. They no, now he's all 538 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Well, he was circling it. 539 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 5: That was the point he was coming on and invisible ink, Yeah, 540 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 5: he was circling. 541 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: I mean seriously, going all the way back to the Jets, 542 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: basically caving into pressure from the NFL to be featured 543 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: on Hard Knocks. They didn't want any part of it. 544 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: And the guy that initially really wanted no part of 545 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: it was Aaron Rodgers. And then if you watched Hard Knocks, 546 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: it was the Aaron Rodgers show. I mean he was 547 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: on constantly grabbing the camera. 548 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 5: Me me, me, me me, And then. 549 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: They know a few side bits about the Jets and 550 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: everything else. 551 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: And and he started this about I don't know four 552 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 2: or five weeks ago that he was serious about returning 553 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: this year doing the unthinkable after blown Achilles and he 554 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: was the one that said look out for Christmas Eve 555 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: jets Ho's in the Commanders. 556 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 5: As a possibly turn. 557 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: This week, he made it clear that he has absolutely 558 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: no intention of coming back this season. 559 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: We'll see you in twenty twenty four. What I mean, 560 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: what is this? 561 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 5: Is this the right thing to do? 562 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's the right thing, But why was he trying 563 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: to give this false narrative that somehow he was going 564 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: to return to a team that not only is a 565 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: bad team but has arguably the worst offensive line in 566 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: the National Football Yeah. 567 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 4: I don't know even if he did come back, Like, 568 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 4: would you really put a hobbled Aaron Rodgers behind that 569 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 4: offensive line? 570 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 5: No? 571 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: Like, no, not if you won him in twenty twenty four. 572 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 4: No, that was just a bad take the whole time. 573 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 4: It was a take him getting clear to being practice him, 574 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: Like come on, man, just go rehab, get yourself together, 575 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: get some ayahuasca whatever, go to a silent retreat, hyperbaric chamber, 576 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: whatever that is, and just focus on twenty twenty four 577 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 4: because that's what it's going to boil down to. 578 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, and the other part of this was Nathaniel Hackett 579 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: and that offense. So he had an entire season, entire 580 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: season against Zach Wilson, right, couldn't do it, and he 581 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: couldn't do it. He had one good game and then 582 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: reverted back to form, and I don't know it sort 583 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 2: of took him out of the last game. We still 584 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: don't know of one hundred. He was cleared on the 585 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: concussion protocol, but just said he wasn't going to get 586 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 2: back into the game as they got shut out last week. 587 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: And then you have Robert Sala who has a losing record. 588 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he's lost twice as many games as he 589 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: has won since he was the head coach of the Jets. 590 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: I get the sense he from that this is Aaron 591 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: Rodgers call, right. I mean, if you're Whatdy Johnson. 592 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: You're like, all right, we're all in on Aaron Rodgers 593 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: to be our quarterback in twenty twenty four. The question is, 594 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: is Aaron Rodgers all in on Nathaniel Hackett and his 595 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: head coach Robert Sala. 596 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 4: Well, I think he's in on Nathaniel Hackett. I think 597 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 4: there's an allegiance there. In terms of Robert Sala. You 598 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 4: can't say any thing negative about the Jets defense, and 599 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: that's what Robert Sala specializes in, but just off the 600 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 4: inability to prepare yourself for something happening to Aaron Rodgers 601 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 4: and then after it happened, not going out and finding 602 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: someone who can come in and play, which other teams 603 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 4: have done, other teams have done. Right, I would have 604 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 4: easily gone out and got Jameis Winston from the Saints, 605 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: traded something to get him to bring him in. Joe Flacco, 606 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: who had played for the Jets, was at home hanging out. 607 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 5: Now he's cooking with the Browns. 608 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: So the inability to go out and really get someone 609 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 4: to come in and be able to weather the storm 610 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: with this much talent, that in itself is a fireball offense. 611 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. 612 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So Sala is known for defense, You're 613 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: known for defense when you have talent on defense. Remember 614 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: Brandon Staley was the hottest hiring ticket because he led 615 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: a ram team of their defense to be ranked number 616 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: one in league. 617 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 5: Yeah he had Aaron Donald in the middle. 618 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah he didn't do anything with it. But Robert Sala 619 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 4: from his I know Robert, I know, I've known Robert. 620 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: Is he a head coach or is he just a 621 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator? 622 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: And I've said this multiple times for years. Every great 623 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: coordinator does not make a great head coach, right, Like, 624 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: you can be the best defensive offensive coordinator in the 625 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: league and the worst head coach. 626 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: Well, think about Demico Ryans and what he's done in 627 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: Houston this year. Right, we were even saying, why would 628 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: because he's had offers, oh yeah, over the last couple 629 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: of years, why would he join an organization that's been 630 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: one and done with three consecutive coaches, showed no patience 631 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: at all. 632 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: Why would you go to an organization like that? 633 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: It seems like the worst possible fit for a first 634 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: time head coach, and yet immediately n Ryan shows he 635 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: has what it takes to be a head coach in 636 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: this league. 637 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 4: And the thing is number one. It's a great story 638 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: him being the first round pick for them when he 639 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: came out. Teammate of mine, tremendously intelligent, knows the game 640 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: up and down, a phenomenal teammate. So when you bring 641 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: a guy like that in who's played and there's a 642 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: respect played at the high level, the respect level was 643 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: instantly there when he walks into the locker room. Guys, understand, 644 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: remember he was the rookie defensive Player of the Year 645 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: his rookie year, and so that's what they needed in Houston. 646 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: They needed someone to come in change the culture, chain, 647 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 4: the narrative, and someone they were willing to hand the 648 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 4: keys over and step away, and Dimiko was a perfect 649 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: fit for that. 650 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 5: I am with you on Robert Salah. I don't see it. 651 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's a tremendous defensive coordinator and he 652 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: will continue to be that for years to come after 653 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: this head coach experiment is over. 654 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 655 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: I mean there have been some great coaching jobs around 656 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: the NFL. I mentioned this earlier, the fact that the 657 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: Rams have a winning record right now. 658 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 3: If there were any questions. 659 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: About Sean McVay, and obviously, a guy who's been to 660 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: a couple of Super Bowls, won a Super Bowl, never 661 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: had a losing season until last year when the wheels 662 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: fell off and he thought, all right, you know it's over, Florence. 663 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: I certainly did I have him on my sheet of 664 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: paper predicting the Rams would have the worst record in 665 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: the league this year. 666 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 5: Well, we thought, we thought they were in the Caleb Williams. 667 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: Sweeps early on, right, and they're city at eight and 668 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: sound very similar to the Seattle story. Last year, we're 669 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 2: going into the season, everyone thought, all right, you got 670 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: rid of Russell Wilson, it's over. You bring it and 671 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: Drew Locke and then all of a sudden, Gino Smith 672 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: shows up and you find yourself into the playoffs. But 673 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: they're doing it again. But that again shows there is 674 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: a way. And I thought it was interesting with Sean 675 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: McVay because you know, the Rams now one I think 676 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: five of the last six games, and he said something 677 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: very interesting. He goes, it's not that we're playing all 678 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: that much different football than we did earlier when we 679 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: were losing. We're just finishing the job now. In other words, 680 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: you gotta close out games. He felt like the team 681 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: was playing well, the team was showing good effort. You know, 682 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: they had a couple of close losses, and you have 683 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: to learn how to close games out. And all of 684 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: a sudden it started to click. And of course it 685 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: helps to have a veteran quarterback like Matthew Stafford. By 686 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: the way, I've changed my mind on Matthew Stafford. I 687 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: was one of those guys back in the Detroit days 688 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: where he was constantly bringing up his negative numbers. You know, 689 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: it's incredible losing record against teams that have winning records 690 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: and prime time and all that. And I watched this 691 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: guy and I know he's still not one hundred percent physically, 692 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: but he's a leader and he inspires his football team 693 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: and that's what you need out of the quarterback position. 694 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: So you talk about two best in season coaching jobs 695 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: for Sean Payton turning things around for Denver and Sean McVay, 696 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: and what he has done for this Rams team unbelievable. 697 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with that. And look, man, Matthew 698 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 4: Stafford can play. 699 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 5: Oh he can play. He's always been able to play. 700 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 4: He was stuck in Detroit for a decade to a 701 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 4: decade a dozen years and the world didn't get to 702 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 4: see how dynamic he was. And now he's on the 703 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: big stage. He won a super Bowl, came right over, 704 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 4: won a super Bowl. He's got this team in position 705 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 4: to be in the playoffs, and I believe they'll be 706 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 4: scary in the playoffs. They will the emergence of Williams 707 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 4: and their running game. They're going to be dangerous in 708 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 4: the playoffs. 709 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: Well, they have experience a lot of players on that 710 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: team of getting it done right. Now Steelers lead the 711 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: Bengals thirty one to eight. What a game for the 712 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: Steelers today, trying to prove their record to eight and seven. 713 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: To me, while the Bengals needed this game, it is 714 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: not looking good. Speaking of we'll talk about the playoff 715 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 2: picture and teams that are in serious trouble right now. 716 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Saturday. 717 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 5: The Bengals bring the blitz touch pattern down the left 718 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 5: sideline and it's track their guns. George pickins to the 719 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 5: ten to five touchdown. 720 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 4: He beat corn or losing Bentley And I'll tell you 721 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 4: what ration. 722 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 5: Rudolph played it in there perfectly. 723 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: That's the Steelers radio network, and the Steelers are doing 724 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: a number on the Bengals. 725 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 5: They lead that. 726 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 3: Game thirty one to eight. 727 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna head to the fourth quarter and that big 728 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: matchup once again. This is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Hartman 729 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: and Ephraim Salom with you. We're coming to lie from 730 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: the tyraq dot com studios. So we get to this 731 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: point of the NFL season and you dig, you take 732 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: a look at all the different playoff scenarios and so 733 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: let's let's let's make it clear on the AFC side, 734 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 2: if you want to get into the postseason, you're gonna 735 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 2: have to win ten games. On the NFC side nine games. 736 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: So the AFC significantly better overall this year than the 737 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: NFC in terms of teams records. Let's start with the NFC. 738 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: Here e from teams on the bubble, teams in trouble, 739 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: teams that desperately need to win. So we got four 740 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: teams that are gonna be in the forty nine Ers, 741 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, the Lions, and the Eagles. So that leaves 742 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: three slots open. With New Orleans losing to the Rams, 743 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 2: Tampa is in the driver's seat. And how about last 744 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 2: week Baker Mayfield a perfect passer rating of one point 745 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: fifty eight point three. Tampa's in the driver's seat to 746 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: win that week. And IFC South, well, let me ask 747 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 2: you this. Have the Buccaneers found their quarterback in Baker 748 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: Mayfield or are you turning the page on Mayfield as 749 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: just sort of a stopgap guy looking for the answer 750 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 2: down the road. 751 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 4: I mean, they found the answer to the quiz, not 752 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 4: the test. So until you can get the guy you 753 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 4: can have for the next twelve years, then he is 754 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 4: the answer. He brings a certain amount of energy, swagger 755 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 4: to that locker room, and he's willing to do anything 756 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 4: to win. Guys respond to that. Now, is he always effective? No, 757 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: But it's easy to go to war with someone who's 758 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 4: willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with you through the 759 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 4: good and through the bad. And that's what Baker mayfeel 760 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 4: is and that's why people like him. That's why guys 761 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 4: like them. 762 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 2: As far as the other spot in the NFC, again, 763 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: the Rams win at least one game other last two, 764 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: the Rams would appear to be safely in the playoffs. 765 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: And then he got the Vikings at seven to seven, 766 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 2: the Seahawks at seven and seven, the Saints at seven 767 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 2: and eight. Atlanta and Green Bay both at six and eight, 768 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: are very much on the fringe. Right now, let me 769 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: ask you about a potential playoff matchup in the NFC. 770 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: Rams on the road against the Detroit Lions. Matthew Stafford 771 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 2: on the road against mister Goff. The two quarterbacks were 772 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,959 Speaker 2: swapped with each other. The Lions have won exactly one 773 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 2: playoff game since nineteen fifty seven. Rams on the road 774 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: against the Lions. 775 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 5: That would be a big game. Can you imagine I would. 776 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 4: Take the Rams. I take the Rams because Detroit, we 777 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 4: know when they're on, they can put up points with 778 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 4: the best of them. Defensively, they're in and out, and 779 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 4: you can't be in and out in the playoffs. You 780 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 4: got to be able to stop the run, and you 781 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 4: got to be able to really put pressure on teams 782 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 4: in third and long situations. It's easy to say, well 783 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 4: that you can say that about anybody, but Detroit has 784 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: shown even if they do have a lead, they will 785 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 4: give it up. They'll give it up late in games. 786 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 4: And that would be great, That would be great ratings 787 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 4: right there. 788 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 2: Well, I you know, I think about the quarterback matchup, 789 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 2: right and who has more to prove. 790 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 5: It's Golf. 791 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 3: I mean, think about it. 792 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 2: Well, they traded Golf and additional number ones to unload him. 793 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 5: Gotta go rid. 794 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: Themselves of his contract and everything else to get Stafford 795 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: and Goff's coming off that big five touchdown game, so 796 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: he's back on track right now. It's a great first 797 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: round matchup if it does happen right now, it's a possibility. 798 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 5: So we'll keep our eye on that all right. 799 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're gonna get to 800 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: some of the playoff scenarios on the AFC side, and 801 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: there are a lot of them, Pittsburgh leaning thirty one 802 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: to eleven over the Bengals. Right now for all the latest, 803 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: keep it right here. This is Fox Football Saturday. 804 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 805 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: the nation. 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We're gonna get you there, and 811 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: I'm Matt selection fast Reshipping free road has a protection 812 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommending installers dot com the way tire 813 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 2: by and should be. 814 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 5: We're a little over. 815 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: Twelve minutes to go in the fourth quarter, the Steelers 816 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: firmly in control, leading the Bengals by a score of 817 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 2: thirty one to eleven. 818 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 5: And then later on about an hour. 819 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: Kickoff as the Buffalo Bills on the road against the 820 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers. 821 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 5: Wow on Peacock. 822 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 2: Exactly. I mean, this is another prime time feature of 823 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: the Chargers. Can you can you think of a less 824 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: significant team to have had as many prime time appearances 825 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: as the Chargers? And you say, why is that? And 826 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 2: the answer is very clear. The league is desperate to 827 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 2: call attention to we have not one, but two teams 828 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 2: in La. 829 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 8: LA. 830 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: Wake up, we have NFL football in LA. 831 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 2: You have thirty marks that have NFL teams, The Jets, 832 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: the Giant share of market, the Chargers, and the Rams 833 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 2: share of market. In twenty nine of the thirty markets, 834 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: the NFL reigned supreme, but not in LA, not even close. 835 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 2: In fact, the Dodgers have spent a billion dollars on 836 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 2: two pitchers, well one pitcher, Slash dh and show Hey 837 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: Otani and Yakamoto Yamamoto Yamamoto. Yeah, this guy's never pitched 838 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 2: a Major league game, just had the richest contract ever 839 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 2: in the history of Major League Baseball in terms of 840 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 2: the total value of the contract. 841 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 3: For a pitcher. 842 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 5: And by the way, have you seen this guy pitch. 843 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 2: He's about five to eleven, weighs about one hundred and 844 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 2: seventy pounds. 845 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 5: If you remember, Tim Linskam in. 846 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: His heyday, was this little guy and he could just 847 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 2: throw the ball crazy. 848 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 3: He won a couple of Cy Young Awards. 849 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 2: Peyton Martinez wasn't a big guy and could just throw 850 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 2: filthy stuff. And this is what this pitcher is all about. 851 00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: But you have committed a billion dollars to two players, 852 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 2: one who's never pitched a major League game and another 853 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: guy who you're counting on down the road to be 854 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: a pitcher for you, who has blown out his elbow twice. 855 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 3: Boy, it must be nice to have money to burn, 856 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 3: money to burn, because the Dodgers have a barely money 857 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: to burn. 858 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 2: They're literally just trying, so I think one person put 859 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 2: it this way. They're just trying to take over all 860 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 2: of Major League Baseball? 861 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 5: Why not? And yet they had Yankees did it for decades. 862 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: And this comes from a Dodger fan that goes all 863 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: the way back to the day. They haven't won a 864 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 2: legitimate championships since eighty eight. I'm sorry, I just don't 865 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: count twenty twenty. Why it was a sixty game season, 866 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 2: sixty game. 867 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 5: All everybody played sixty games. 868 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: They played all their games in the postseason the same place, sexas. 869 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 3: Okay, no road games, no crowds, so what, no parade? 870 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, the world was turned off. 871 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 3: It was so, and so was I. 872 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 5: So was ir right? 873 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know your beloved Lakers, who, by the way, 874 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: are one in five since wrapping up the much coveted 875 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 2: first ever NBA Cup season tournament championship. 876 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: They're one and five since then. 877 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, we got that cup. That better? That better hangs 878 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 5: probably Kobe, what are we doing? 879 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 4: Man? 880 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 5: Kobe's like, what is happening down there? Good lord? 881 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you put legitimacy to their twenty twenty championship? 882 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 5: Of course I do. 883 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 4: I know you well, they had the number one seed 884 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 4: in the West going into the break. I'm going into 885 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 4: the shutdown, right, there was one of the best teams 886 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 4: in the league. The teams that had an opportunity to 887 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 4: make the playoffs all went to the bubble, and they 888 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: all were under the same circumstances, and one team prevailed. 889 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 3: It wasn't under the same circumstances. 890 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 5: It wasn't. 891 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: There was a lot of things working for the Lakers 892 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: that year. The We had a fully rested Anthony Davis 893 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: and Lebron. 894 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is all all the teams who 895 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 4: were in the bubble got there. 896 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 5: They had the same break. 897 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of teams showed like they weren't 898 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 3: all that motivated. 899 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 5: That's fault. Walk goes down to Miami is like, that's 900 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 5: your fault. 901 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 2: That the Lakers are motivated by the memory of Kobe Bryant. 902 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 4: It was still getting paid, correct, Yes, they were, Oh okay, cool, okay, Yeah, 903 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 4: that's what other motivation do you need? Well, you make 904 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 4: it thirty four million dollars a year. You mean to 905 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 4: tell me you're not motivated to finish? Hello, don't get 906 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 4: me started. 907 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 2: Don't get me started on overpriced athletes to show zero 908 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: motivation other than collective. 909 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 5: Well, you see what happened the Zion's contract. 910 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 3: Zion is uh and is no longer guaranteed in three years. 911 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 5: Should it be? Why did they give him that extension 912 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 5: because they're idiots? 913 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 3: Why is Monny Williams the highest paid coach in the NBA? 914 00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, a certain point, you can't just pay on potential. 915 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 2: Can I ask you this? So, Monny Williams did not 916 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 2: want the Pistons job. No, until they made him an 917 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: offer he couldn't reviews. And now they've lost twenty five 918 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 2: straight games That didn't even seem possible, Right, it's impossible. 919 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 2: I am old enough to remember when the Lakers won 920 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 2: thirty three in a row. Yes, and even in that era, 921 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 2: it seems impossible that you could do that. You're going 922 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: to have a bad night, somebody's gonna get a hot hand. 923 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 2: You don't win thirty three in a row, but conversely, 924 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 2: you don't lose twenty five in a row. 925 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, I mean, because you will look up 926 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 4: into one exactly. 927 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 2: We see it every single week, every single night in 928 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,479 Speaker 2: sports where an upset happens. But for the Pistons, nothing 929 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: twenty five in a row. 930 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 4: You gotta get one, man. I mean, that's just that's 931 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 4: just that's gross. 932 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 3: What was the worst team you ever played for? 933 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 4: The worst team I ever played for? It's probably nine 934 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 4: and detri Roy was coming off their oh and sixteen season. 935 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 5: You turned things around that. 936 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 4: Year, Well, we won more games, but it was that 937 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 4: was a year welve for me. I figured it was 938 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 4: probably time to do something else. 939 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 3: I mean, how did you end up on the winless 940 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 3: Lions team? 941 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 5: I was. 942 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 4: I was leaving Houston and I was gonna be like, hey, man, 943 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 4: I got a good eleven years in sure, I feel great. 944 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 4: Houston wanted to go in a younger direction. I said okay, 945 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 4: And then my agent called and was like, hey, Jim 946 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 4: Schwartz just got the head coaching job over at Denver 947 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 4: Scott lending hands offensive coordinator. You've you know, we played 948 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 4: against Jim a million times when he was a defensive 949 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 4: coordinator in. 950 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 5: Tennessee. Do you want to go? 951 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 4: I said, Uh, I said, let's I'll go out there. 952 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 5: Let's let's just we'll go see. 953 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: And what did you find joining a team that's coming 954 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: off and sixteen? Well, who was that locker room? Like 955 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 2: in training camp? 956 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,479 Speaker 4: Well, the guys were just going to work. Yeah, guys 957 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 4: were just going to work. It was like they weren't. 958 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 4: We weren't in the NFL. We were just going to 959 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 4: work right, right, Like Detroit is hard hat city, right, 960 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 4: you know that we were putting our helmets on and 961 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 4: just going to where we're practicing and showing up. 962 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 5: I'm still around. 963 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 3: No, No, he'd already done that. 964 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 4: He had already, he'd already done enough damage exactly. It 965 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 4: was May mayhw what was Oh? 966 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that? 967 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 5: Yeah? Who was doing damage as well? Yes? 968 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 4: Uh? 969 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 5: And it just. 970 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 4: That was the first time in the history of me 971 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 4: in twelve years or I did get a chance to play, 972 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 4: and I didn't have an opportunity to compete to play, 973 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 4: unbeknownst to me, because I was told when I was 974 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 4: being wooed to come there then an opportunity to start 975 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 4: it right tackle because the kid they drafted the year before, 976 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 4: prior to the coaches getting there, it just wasn't going 977 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 4: to get it done well. 978 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 2: They weren't able to find the answer in Detroit for many, 979 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 2: many years. 980 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 5: Mini, I will tell you, well, they did get Matthew 981 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 5: Stafford that year. They did. They did that. 982 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 2: That began more years of losing under Matthew Stafford. I 983 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 2: don't have to go over that, but they you know, yeah, 984 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 2: got Calvin Johnson. I mean there were some positive down row. 985 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you two coaches. You were talking earlier 986 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: with Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL insided talking 987 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: about Dimiko Rans. I mean, if the Texans make the playoffs, 988 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 2: he should be a runaway down coach of the Year. 989 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 2: But there's a couple of other coaches that are really 990 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: approving themselves. How about Chane Stikeen in Indianapolis. First time coach. 991 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 3: You come into the year and you're basically ordered by 992 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 3: ownership to start the rookie Anthony Richardson, who showed promise 993 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 3: early on the season, but he goes down. Incomes Gardner 994 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 3: Minshew and here are the Colts right now? Sitting at 995 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 3: eight and six. 996 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 5: Minche mania. Man, it's the mustache. 997 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 3: It is. 998 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 2: And by the way, my oldest son now has got 999 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 2: the Minshee mustache. I'm telling you, I got to show 1000 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: you the shot. It's very much a Minshew mustache. But 1001 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: Shane Steigen again, and if you don't know this story, 1002 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni, the coach of the Eagles, and Shane Steichen 1003 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 2: of the Indianapolis Colts were both low level assistants at 1004 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 2: one point on the still San Diego Chargers under Frank Reich, 1005 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 2: of all people, and Steiken was like the serious guy 1006 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 2: and Sirianni was sort of the goofy guy. But both 1007 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: knew what they were doing. And even though they have 1008 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 2: very different styles, certainly Nick Siriano's proved his worth as 1009 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 2: a head coach and now Shane Steigen's doing the same 1010 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 2: thing with Indianapolis. You lose your quarterback early. The guy 1011 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 2: ever won wanted to see Anthony Richardson. 1012 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 5: You're going with. 1013 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,919 Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew and they're in the mix. And how about 1014 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns and Stefanski? Nine in five? Would Joe 1015 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 2: Flacka as your quarterback right now? I mean he he 1016 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 2: was this last game he threw a couple of interceptions 1017 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 2: that were just ugly, and then he throws that perfect 1018 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 2: crossing past to Maury Cooper. 1019 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 5: For the game when he touched down. 1020 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of these teams. 1021 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 2: We got the Ravens, you know, finally people are realizing 1022 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 2: what I've been saying for I don't know what the 1023 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 2: last three or four weeks of the Ravens are clearly 1024 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 2: the class of the AFC. They proved it with their 1025 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 2: blot went on the road against Jacksonville. Miami's a pretender. 1026 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 5: The Chiefs are the Chiefs. 1027 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm not dismissing Kansas City, but when you look at Jacksonville, Cleveland, 1028 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 2: Cincinnati with this loss today is not getting helped. Colts, Texans, 1029 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 2: and the Bills. All those teams are in the mix 1030 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 2: right now, Ephraim can any of those teams. We know 1031 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: Buffalo gets a lot of hype because of Josh Allen 1032 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 2: and the damage they could do. 1033 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 3: But if you were looking at the Colts or the Browns. 1034 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: Or even the Texans, are these teams that could steal 1035 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 2: a win on the road in the postseason? 1036 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 5: Are they at that level? Yeah? 1037 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 4: When you get to the postseason, man, anything can happen. 1038 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 4: That's the beauty about it getting to the show is 1039 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 4: that's the first part of the season. Once you get 1040 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 4: their whole new season starts, it doesn't matter what seat 1041 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 4: you are going to road at home. We've seen as 1042 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 4: Annon Rodgers in Green Bay, right, it doesn't matter, right, 1043 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 4: So it just getting there. That's a goal every team says, 1044 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 4: our goal is to get to the playoffs. When we 1045 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 4: get to the playoffs, our goal is to win the 1046 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. 1047 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 2: But the advantage or disadvantage, obviously, you had a remarkable 1048 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 2: rookie season where you're on a team starting as a 1049 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 2: seventh round pick and you're starting in the Super Bowl. 1050 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 2: So no one picked the Falcons that year to get there. 1051 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 2: Everyone had the vikings that fifteen to one team. But 1052 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 2: did you know instantly when you got into the postseason 1053 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 2: that this was a whole new ball game. 1054 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, because we had to buy even as 1055 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,280 Speaker 4: a rookie, Yeah, we had to buy. I had played 1056 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 4: in at the time, I had played in seventeen games, 1057 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 4: all right, so that's almost two full college seasons. And 1058 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 4: the energy around what was going on. We had San 1059 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 4: Francisco coming in. You got to remember it was the 1060 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 4: to crying game in the wild card game with them 1061 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 4: in Green Bay. I remember sitting there saying, please San 1062 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 4: Francisco win this game because they were in our I 1063 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 4: don't know how San Francisco and Atlanta were in the same. 1064 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 2: Atlanta was in the West, which was always amazing. Did 1065 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 2: years they were in the NFCS. 1066 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 4: Didn't understand that, but look, we had faced them twice. 1067 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 4: They beat us there, we beat them at home. We 1068 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 4: knew they had to come home, come to us to play. 1069 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 4: I didn't want to play against Reggie White. I had 1070 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 4: just a year earlier watch him destroy destroy the tackle 1071 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl, and I didn't want that smoke. 1072 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 5: And ran them over Super Bowls. 1073 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my lord, So I'm watching that 1074 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:47,439 Speaker 4: game with a whole different perspective and interest in who 1075 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 4: was winning. And t O caught the past and was 1076 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 4: crying and I was crying too, and we were crying 1077 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 4: together because I was like, yes, because we knew we 1078 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 4: had forty nine ers number with Garrison Hurst when they 1079 00:54:59,640 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 4: came to. 1080 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 3: But how much of advantage was it to have a 1081 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 3: coach and. 1082 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 5: Dan Rees and they've done that? 1083 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 2: I mean everything then knew everything about beating the playoffs. 1084 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 5: He prepared us to go. 1085 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big part of it. 1086 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 2: So like if Indianapolis gets in rookie coach Inge stiking 1087 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 2: to meeke Oryan's root coach to make O'Ryan's yeah, I mean, 1088 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 2: that would be the big question heading in the postseason. 1089 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 3: All right, we're all over it today. 1090 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 2: By the way, we're got we got a college football 1091 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 2: playoff a little over a week away. We're gonna break 1092 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 2: it down because this is a rare year for the 1093 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 2: college football Playoff, because you could make an argument any 1094 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 2: one of these four schools could easy end up as 1095 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 2: the mythical national champion of twenty twenty three. Break it down. 1096 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Harmin and he from Salon. 1097 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Saturday. We're coming alive from the 1098 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 2: tyraq dot com studios now. Shortly after the show, our podcast. 1099 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 5: Will be going up. 1100 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 2: And if you missed any of today's show, be sure 1101 00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 2: to check out the podcast as search Fox Sports right 1102 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to also follow, 1103 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 2: rate and review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports 1104 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcast. You'll see this show 1105 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air. All right, 1106 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 2: thirty four to eleven Pittsburgh inside two minutes to go. 1107 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 2: They're gonna get a big win here. Steelers still have 1108 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 2: a tough road. They got a couple of tough road 1109 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 2: games coming up against Seattle and then the Ravens if 1110 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 2: they're going to get into the postseason. Brutal blow for Cincinnati. 1111 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 2: Was hoping that Jake Brownie was going to continue the 1112 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 2: magic today. He was not able to do that. But 1113 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph. Who would have thought Mason Rudolph leading the 1114 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 2: Steelers to the big win today? All right, I want 1115 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 2: to get ahead to the semi finals for the college 1116 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 2: football Playoff. The final four school playoff ten years mercifully 1117 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 2: is over. We're gonna have a twelve school playoff next year. 1118 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 2: You say that's four schools too many. You they'd rather 1119 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 2: have an eight school playoff. Some people are even talking 1120 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 2: already that they're expanding it to sixteen at some point. 1121 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 2: We'll see how that all goes. But what's interesting about 1122 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 2: this year's semi finals is that, unlike years pass where 1123 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 2: at least one of the games appeared to be a 1124 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 2: mismatch on paper, neither one of these games looked like 1125 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 2: a mismatch. Washington, Texas, that's a coin flip. Alabama, Michigan, 1126 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 2: that's a coin flip. And when you think about these 1127 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 2: four schools and how they got here, I mean Michigan 1128 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 2: had Harbor missed half the games before the Big Ten Championship. 1129 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 2: How about Washington, They won their last nine games by 1130 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 2: ten or less, nine in a row. In fact, they've 1131 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 2: had eight wins in single digits this year, which is 1132 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 2: the most ever by a team that made it to. 1133 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 3: The College Football Playoff. 1134 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 2: Texas, how many years have we been saying with Texas 1135 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 2: getting a nice win during the season, Texas is back 1136 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: and they lay an egg. 1137 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 5: The next week. 1138 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 2: Remember that survival Kansas State game, the overtime win, that 1139 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 2: was the big win for them. And then Alabama. You 1140 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 2: and I sat here in that Auburn game. Fourth and 1141 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 2: goal at the thirty one yard line, No way, fourth 1142 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 2: and goal at the thirty one yard line, touchdown, never 1143 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: should have happened, never should have happened, but it did happen. 1144 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 2: And then they took care of business against Georgia. So, 1145 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 2: at least on paper, this is going to be the 1146 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 2: most competitive semi finals. And by the way, this is 1147 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 2: going to be on Monday, January first that. 1148 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 5: We've ever seen. 1149 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 3: Hopefully the games are going to live up to the hyde. 1150 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 2: Are you leaning in any direction with these four teams 1151 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 2: on who you think is the team to beat? 1152 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,479 Speaker 4: Honestly, I would I would say Alabama was the team 1153 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 4: to beat. 1154 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 5: Wow? Is that because of Nick Saban? 1155 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 4: Nick Sabman Milroy is stepped into his own He's become 1156 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 4: a huge threat, not only through the air but with 1157 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 4: his legs, and I just when you get Nick Saban 1158 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 4: in this position, you just trust him. And that has 1159 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 4: a lot to do with it. We saw Michigan fall 1160 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 4: flat a couple of times, not quite sure what we're 1161 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 4: gonna get out of Texas, don't know. So you know, Washington, 1162 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 4: this is a huge stage. They went through the gauntlet. 1163 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 4: With the Pac twelve being as good as it was 1164 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 4: this year, I'm pulling for Washington. 1165 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 5: I think that'd be great. I think it'd be great for. 1166 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 4: College football for the last year of the Pac twelve 1167 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 4: as we knew it to be the national champions I 1168 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 4: think that would be a tremendous story and a great 1169 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 4: way to exit a conference. So I'm looking, I'm pulling 1170 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 4: for the story. 1171 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think Washington is the team to beat, and 1172 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. First of all, it's interesting in 1173 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 2: their matchup against Texas because you have two schools leaving 1174 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 2: their conferences. Texas is heading the SEC, Washington's heading to 1175 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 2: the Big Ten. But they are battle tested. Yeah, they 1176 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 2: have figured out way. This Debor guy is unreal. I mean, 1177 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 2: his coaching record is ridiculous, and they have been battle 1178 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 2: tested week after week after week. As I said, their 1179 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 2: last nine wins have all been by ten points or less. 1180 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 2: And they have the best quarterback remaining, Michael Penix Junior, 1181 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 2: who got my Heisman vote. Folks, It's only the third 1182 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 2: time ever that I voted for someone to win the 1183 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 2: Heisman that did not win the Heisman. And this was 1184 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 2: no knock on Jason Daniels. I mean, he had a 1185 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 2: phenomenal year. Statistically he was the better quarterback, but what 1186 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 2: did he do in his biggest games. LSU played four 1187 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 2: ranked teams this year and they lost three of those games. 1188 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Well it was their defense, Okay, Well, Penix's defense wasn't 1189 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 2: always great, but in close games he made big plays. 1190 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,919 Speaker 3: I don't know about the Michigan Alabama game. 1191 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 2: I mean that is just a wacky matchup to me 1192 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: because Michigan defense is phenomenal. But do you know what's 1193 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 2: a little overrated is a running game. Corum you know, 1194 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 2: was like a third team All American this year. He 1195 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 2: only had I think two hundred yard rushing games the 1196 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 2: entire year, scored a lot of touchdowns. But here's a 1197 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 2: stat for you, yards per carry rushing offense. You think 1198 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 2: Michigan be one of the best. Remember the game against 1199 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Penn State. They didn't throw it pass in the second half. 1200 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 3: Seventy fourth in the nation in the yards per car 1201 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 3: seventy fourth in the nation in the. 1202 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 2: Yards per carry in the running game. Alabama pretty good 1203 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 2: run defense. 1204 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 5: Oh they gonna come get you now. 1205 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 2: And if Michigan can't run the ball effectively against Alabama, 1206 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 2: putting it on the arm of JJ McCarthy. I like 1207 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 2: McCarthy's a winner, But I'm with you. I think Milroe 1208 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 2: is the better quarterback. And if it came down to 1209 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Alabama and Washington, I'm going back twelve. 1210 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 5: Gotta go pack twelve, which would be unbelievable, isn't it. 1211 01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 5: That's the story, would be unbelievable. That is the story. 1212 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 5: That's exactly right. 1213 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 4: That's the story, and that's that's what I would hang 1214 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 4: my hat on right. 1215 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,959 Speaker 2: I'm actually looking forward to this playoff. It's not for real, 1216 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 2: it's for a mythical national championship. But I am definitely 1217 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: hooked in on these two semi finals coming up on 1218 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 2: January first, All right, let's find out what is trending 1219 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 2: right now. And oh, Martin Mason Rudolph the hero of 1220 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 2: the day. 1221 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Christmas spear is starting early. 1222 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 8: Of course, Mason Rudolph would have a great game as 1223 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 8: Christmas is right around the corner. 1224 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 3: It is a Rudolph holiday. 1225 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 8: But dun anyway. The Steelers thirty four, Bengals eleven. Jake 1226 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 8: Brown and came back down to earth twenty eight for 1227 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 8: forty two I mean twenty eight of forty two three 1228 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 8: hundred and thirty three three hundred and thirty five yards, 1229 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 8: but only a touchdown in three interceptions. Mason Rudolph seventeen 1230 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 8: for twenty seven to ninety two touchdowns. And George Pickens 1231 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 8: had had a day. You know, he was the topic 1232 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 8: of a lot of conversation. 1233 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 5: You know, he's but he's not paid out there to block. 1234 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 8: He had an average of forty eight yards along of 1235 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 8: eighty six four catches, one hundred and ninety five yards. 1236 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 8: College football games in action right now South Alabama with 1237 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 8: ay ten nothing lead over Eastern Michigan at Utah and 1238 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 8: Northwestern getting ready to start. In the NBA, the Hornets 1239 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 8: jumped out to a twelve to two lead early in 1240 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 8: the first quarter, but late in the first quarter. Now 1241 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 8: the Nuggets just trailing by one twenty one to twenty 1242 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 8: against Charlotte and Denver and the Magic and the Pacers 1243 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 8: of Magic have a two point lead twenty four to 1244 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 8: twenty two. Palo Bank Carroll has eight points, Tyreez Halliburton 1245 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 8: with seven, and the other game in action right now, 1246 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 8: Zion Williamson has five points as the Pelicans trail the 1247 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 8: Rockets twenty three to nineteen. In the NFL, Trevor Lawrence 1248 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 8: has clear concussion protocol. He'll travel to Tampa for tomorrow's 1249 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 8: game against the Buccaneers. Jaguars tied atop the AFC South 1250 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 8: with the Colts and the Texans. The Texans who will 1251 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 8: be without C. J. Stroud he has not yet cleared 1252 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 8: his concussion protocol. The Indianapolis Colts will be without running 1253 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 8: back Zach Moss. He's down against the Falcons with a 1254 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 8: form injury all so not playing. 1255 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 5: Michael Pittman. 1256 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 8: He cleared concussion protocol on Friday, traveled with the team, 1257 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 8: had some other symptoms come flare up, and now he's 1258 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 8: back in concussion protocol and he's also dealing with his 1259 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 8: shoulder injury. Titans quarterback Will Levis unlikely to start against 1260 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 8: the Seahawks on Sunday. Ryan Tannehill will make his first 1261 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 8: start since getting benched Week six. Eagles receiver Davonte Smith 1262 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 8: as a full goal for Monday Night against the Giants. 1263 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 8: Eagles will be without linebacker Zach Cunningham, cornerbacks Avonte Maddox 1264 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 8: and Darius Slay, and in the Chiefs Raiders matchup, the 1265 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 8: Chiefs will be without Kadarius Tony, running back Jerrick McKinnon, 1266 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 8: wide receiver Mcole Harbmon, and tackle Donovan Smith. The Raiders 1267 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 8: will be without tight end Michael Mayer. Steve Ephrom back 1268 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 8: to you guys, all. 1269 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 2: Right, Martin, thank you very much. Once again, this is 1270 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday. Steve Harbin and Ephrom Salam were coming 1271 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 2: to you live from the tai Iraq dot Com studio. 1272 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 3: So the Steelers get the first one of the day 1273 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 3: coming up. 1274 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 2: Now, the Bills on the road against the Chargers, and 1275 01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 2: the Chargers have a new coach. Give Smith, and if 1276 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 2: you don't know, give Smith's background. This guy's been a 1277 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 2: coach for a long time. Nineteen years in the college ranks. 1278 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 2: He's been in the NFL since twenty ten with the 1279 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 2: Bills of Titans. It's been part of the Chargers coaching 1280 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 2: staff since twenty sixteen, fifty five years old. 1281 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 5: He's an interim guy. 1282 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 2: He's not going to be coaching me on these three 1283 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 2: games as a head coach. How many interim coaches did 1284 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 2: you play under over the course of your thirteen year 1285 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 2: NFL career. 1286 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 5: None? None, None. 1287 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 2: You never had a coach that was fired during a season. No, 1288 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 2: That is amazing on my watch, that is amazing. Now 1289 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 2: interim coaches, and we've got plenty of them going already 1290 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 2: this year in the NFL. 1291 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 5: It's not an uncommon. 1292 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 2: Practice, but it would be like a substitute teacher, right, Yes, 1293 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 2: although I guess when we hear him more about the 1294 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 2: Brandon Staley situation. 1295 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 3: You and I obviously were all over Brandon Staley for a. 1296 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 5: Long time, long years. I mean almost from the get go. 1297 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 2: Is first year, you know, when he was going for 1298 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 2: it on fourth and ten from his own twenty yard line, 1299 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 2: and I don't know, he just you know, he was 1300 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 2: like he was trying to back it up with analytics 1301 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 2: and everything else. 1302 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 5: Lost so many games for no reason. 1303 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 2: Do you remember his first year that last game against 1304 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 2: the Raiders where if the game ended in a tie, 1305 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 2: both teams would have been in Yes, and he went 1306 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 2: for it on fourth and two. It is own like 1307 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 2: twenty four yard line got stucked. 1308 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 5: Should have been fired right then and there. 1309 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 3: And then he lost on a second last second field 1310 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 3: go by the Raiders. 1311 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 5: Did a lost? You should have been fired right then 1312 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 5: and there. 1313 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 2: And then the next year blows a twenty seven to 1314 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 2: nothing lead at halftime in a playoff game. But I 1315 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 2: would imagine if the locker room is loose, right, I mean, 1316 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 2: you're going against the Bills team that hey, everyone's hyping 1317 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 2: up right now? Why do I get a sense the 1318 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 2: charge is going to hang in there today? Coming off that? 1319 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 2: I mean, when you're down forty two to nothing at 1320 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:59,959 Speaker 2: halftime on national TV, then have your coach in general 1321 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 2: manager fired? How does that sit in the locker room? 1322 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,440 Speaker 2: Plus you have had extended time off. How do you 1323 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 2: think that's been sitting with the players are in that 1324 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 2: locker room. 1325 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 4: I think it sits a little bit better than it 1326 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 4: normally would have, because I'm sure they were tired of 1327 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 4: Brandon Staley, just like the rest of us. So when 1328 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 4: you can remove the thing that's causing the most issue, 1329 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 4: there's a sigh of relief. You get to exhale, and 1330 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,919 Speaker 4: now you can really focus on moving forward because they 1331 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 4: have been told, hey, everything you do in these last games, 1332 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 4: it's going to matter whether you're here or go somewhere else. 1333 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 5: Everything matters. 1334 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 2: Brand and Staley, after that humiliating collapse in the playoffs, 1335 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 2: walked into that locker room after the game and said, 1336 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:57,120 Speaker 2: these things happen in the NFL. And then this last game, 1337 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 2: down forty two and nothing. At halftime after that game, 1338 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 2: he said, these things happen in the NFL. I can't 1339 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 2: imagine as a player, even if the guy is sort 1340 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 2: of deemed a player's coach and he's got your bag, 1341 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 2: that's not what you want to hear. 1342 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 5: You don't want to hear that. 1343 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 4: These guys are professional athletes, they get paid to play. 1344 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 4: They have pride. There's a sense of pride in going 1345 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 4: to work and doing your best but what you also 1346 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 4: want is the person who's calling the plays, the person 1347 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,719 Speaker 4: who's supposed to be leading you, to also be giving 1348 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 4: it their best. 1349 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 2: If I know you never were down forty two nothing 1350 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 2: at halftime in an NFL game, No, but wouldn't you 1351 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 2: expect a coach to just light it up at halftime? 1352 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 5: We're let it all out. 1353 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 2: I got news for all of you in this room. 1354 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,719 Speaker 2: None of you are guaranteed a job after this week. 1355 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 3: Show one or get out, Show up or get out 1356 01:08:59,120 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 3: forty two nothing. 1357 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 2: If you think you got a paycheck coming next week, 1358 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 2: there's no guarantee. Right, isn't that what you want to 1359 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,759 Speaker 2: hear as a player, and then start looking around saying 1360 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 2: you're right. 1361 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 5: Accountability is everything. But that wasn't right. 1362 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 2: Brandon Staley his line after the humiliating playoff loss, and 1363 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 2: this humiliation was the same. These things happen in the NFL. 1364 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 5: No, No, they don't, not like this, No, not like. 1365 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 2: This, not like that at all. So it's going to 1366 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 2: be the Bills and the Chargers coming up. As far 1367 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 2: as the Bills are concerned, they are the hot ticket 1368 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,799 Speaker 2: right now. They had the close loss against the Eagles 1369 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 2: on the road, then they got the road win against 1370 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. The controversy about the off side against the 1371 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 2: Chiefs that now has been resolved. 1372 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,160 Speaker 3: He was offside, you know, the officials didn't. 1373 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,480 Speaker 2: They're not obligated to say, hey, dude, you're blind up offside. 1374 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,920 Speaker 5: What is your job as a receiver to check? Well, 1375 01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 5: he was looking down the line. 1376 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 2: If you watch that still photo, him literally looking down 1377 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 2: the line, and he is a half yard ahead of 1378 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 2: everybody else. 1379 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 5: Are you blind? Yeah? 1380 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, take a step back, by the way, how does 1381 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:13,800 Speaker 2: that play in the locker room? 1382 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:14,599 Speaker 5: Not good? 1383 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,480 Speaker 3: So now you're looking at the film. 1384 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,639 Speaker 5: That plus the drops over the course of the year. 1385 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,599 Speaker 5: Mm hmmm. Not good. No, not good. 1386 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,400 Speaker 2: And then of course their blott went against the Cowboys. 1387 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 2: Was that any shock to you? The Cowboys again. 1388 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 3: The cowboy in the egg on the road and getting humiliated. 1389 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 5: No, that is it gonna happen this week with the Dolphins, 1390 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 5: I believe so. 1391 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,639 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill apparently is expected to be back. 1392 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 5: That's not good for them. 1393 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 2: That doesn't help the situation. And yet I still don't 1394 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:50,719 Speaker 2: take the Dolphins seriously. 1395 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 5: Well, they're exciting to watch, I can tell you that. 1396 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 3: Can they win on the road against Kansas City in 1397 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 3: the playoffs. 1398 01:10:58,880 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1399 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 3: Can they went on the rod against the Ravens in 1400 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 3: the playoffs? 1401 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? Are you with me on the Ravens. I don't 1402 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 5: think you're there, I am. 1403 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 3: I mean, as long as you've got a healthy Lamar Jackson. 1404 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 4: What they're doing defensively and having a healthy Lamar Jackson brother, 1405 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,479 Speaker 4: that is a recipe for disaster for other teams. That 1406 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 4: is something that those young receivers ob j likely an 1407 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 4: unlikely source at tight end. 1408 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 5: Hey, this thing is clicking, man, I. 1409 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 2: Thought Doug Peterson. I'm a big fan of Doug Peterson. 1410 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 2: What he's done in Jacksonville to turn that organization around 1411 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 2: after that Urban Meyers is unbelievable. But he said I 1412 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 2: like a straight shooter after that loss at home, convincing 1413 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 2: loss of the Ravens, he just simply said, we're not 1414 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 2: good enough to be a team like that yet. 1415 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 5: We're just not. 1416 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 2: That is It's that's what you say to get your 1417 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 2: team to the next level. Basically, what you're saying is 1418 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 2: if we're going to take that next step, if we're 1419 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 2: going to beat a team like the Ravens, we gotta 1420 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 2: be better, man, way better. Because we weren't competitive in 1421 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 2: that game. 1422 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 1423 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 2: I as far as the Bills are concerned, they should 1424 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 2: take care of business today. And by the way, the 1425 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 2: Bills still have an outside chance to win the AFC 1426 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,360 Speaker 2: East because their last game of the year is against 1427 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:23,080 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. 1428 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 5: Big time. 1429 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 1: Man. 1430 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 5: I love I love late December football. 1431 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 2: You know, I always loved the last week of the 1432 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 2: season where you have the scenario like if this team wins, 1433 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 2: the next team, next team, and there's a pecking order, 1434 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 2: right this team loses, that team moves up, that team loses, 1435 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 2: next team. 1436 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 4: Moves And when everybody jammed in at seven and six 1437 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 4: and eight and said, that's what you want because every 1438 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 4: game matters. 1439 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 2: By the way, it is conceivable that we have not 1440 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 2: won but two eight to nine teams in the NFC. 1441 01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 3: It's possible, it's not likely. 1442 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 2: I think tam is going to finish nine to eight 1443 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 2: and win that NFC South, but they could get upset 1444 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 2: easily by somebody. But it almost looks almost assured one 1445 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 2: of those wildcard teams is gonna sneak in an eight 1446 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 2: to nine. 1447 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 5: That's awesome. I love it, man. All right. 1448 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,760 Speaker 2: On the other side, we'll give our thoughts on these 1449 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,799 Speaker 2: games coming up. They're about to kick it off between 1450 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 2: the Bills and the Chargers. What's going to be the 1451 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 2: big upset game in Week sixteen in the NFL. 1452 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 3: We'll tell you. This is Fox Football Saturday. 1453 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 5: Mason Rudolphin, the Guy and the Empties, the set fast 1454 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 5: over the middle, list cut five pickings. He's on his way. 1455 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,120 Speaker 3: He's at the forty, the fifty, the forty five to forty. 1456 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,719 Speaker 5: Here comes George Pickens all the way for a pitch perk. 1457 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 5: Steelers cuts down eighty six yards. 1458 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 3: That's the Steelers Radio network. 1459 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,719 Speaker 2: And that is our Progressive Play of the Day, brought 1460 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 2: to you by Progressive Insurance. 1461 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,240 Speaker 3: Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. 1462 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,679 Speaker 2: Get a multi policy discount by binding you our motorcycle, RV, boat, 1463 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,840 Speaker 2: a TV, more all your protection of one place. Bundle 1464 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,799 Speaker 2: and save at Progressive dot com. This is Fox Football Saturday. 1465 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,679 Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and he from Salam. We are coming alive 1466 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 2: from the ti Iraq dot com studios. Our crew is 1467 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 2: unmatched and Martin today jumping in doing triple duty. That's 1468 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,760 Speaker 2: what he does every once in a while. Here working 1469 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,120 Speaker 2: all day, shit all day. Baby Lorena on the board 1470 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:33,160 Speaker 2: as usual, doing a perfect job. And then our brilliant producer, 1471 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 2: Brandon who is hitting his stride at this point of 1472 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 2: the season. 1473 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 5: Brandon. 1474 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,679 Speaker 2: We got big news for Brandon in the coming week, 1475 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 2: so we'll keep you up the date on that. 1476 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:46,599 Speaker 5: All right. 1477 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about potential upsets coming up tomorrow 1478 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 2: in the NFL, and I'm gonna give you one of 1479 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,720 Speaker 2: my choices, and that is the Detroit Lions on the 1480 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,839 Speaker 2: road against the Minnesota Now, for the Lions, a victory 1481 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,960 Speaker 2: clinches an NFC North championship, and they're coming off a 1482 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,639 Speaker 2: really big game, golf through for five touchdowns in their 1483 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,720 Speaker 2: last victory the Vikings. I think Kevin O'Connell is a 1484 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 2: little I'm going to put it this way in some respects. 1485 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 2: He's done a better coaching job this year with a 1486 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 2: seven and seven team than he did last year with 1487 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 2: a thirteen and fourteen. Now, remember last year, the Vikings 1488 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 2: did unprecedented eleven and oh in one score games. 1489 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 3: That's unbelievable, eleven and oh in one score games. 1490 01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,360 Speaker 2: Ironically, they ended up losing at home to the Giants 1491 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:39,759 Speaker 2: in a one score game. 1492 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 5: But this year, you. 1493 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 2: Lose your quarterback, You lost Jefferson for the majority of 1494 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 2: the season, and the Vikings are still in the running 1495 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 2: and two of their last three games are matchups against 1496 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 2: the Lions. Nick Mullens is in Remember we. 1497 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:56,839 Speaker 3: Had Joshua Dobbs. 1498 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 2: He was like the hot ticket for a couple of 1499 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 2: weeks and then the wheels fell off Dobs He is 1500 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 2: now completely forgotten. But I don't know. I look at 1501 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,840 Speaker 2: the Lions. They're gonna be in the playoffs. But the 1502 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,839 Speaker 2: Lions to me, are still the Lions until they prove otherwise. This, 1503 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 2: this to me, seems like the perfect cause. They will 1504 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 2: be hosting the Vikings in the final game of the 1505 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,000 Speaker 2: season if that still matters in terms of winning the division. 1506 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,720 Speaker 2: But I am predicting right now. And by the way, 1507 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,640 Speaker 2: every time I make a prediction, people run to the 1508 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 2: bank and go the other way. And I don't blame you. 1509 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 2: I've been doing this for a long time. But something 1510 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 2: tells me that Nick Mullins and the Vikings and Kevin 1511 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 2: O'Connell and JJ's back at wide receiver, they're gonna find 1512 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 2: a way to win at home against. 1513 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,560 Speaker 5: The Detroit Lions. Are you jumping on with me on 1514 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 5: that one? I'm not gonna jump home with it that 1515 01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 5: you look really skeptical. 1516 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 3: I mean technically they're still alive. 1517 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,120 Speaker 5: They are alive. 1518 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again nine and eight. So nine and 1519 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 3: eight will get you into the playoffs in the NFC. 1520 01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 5: But the motivation to your your division in one win, 1521 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 5: I know when you can do that. 1522 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure Dan Campbell's gonna have them reed up. 1523 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,799 Speaker 5: Oh they've been Yeah, they've been reffed. 1524 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,679 Speaker 4: So now it's time to open the doors, open the gates, 1525 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 4: and let them loose. 1526 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,720 Speaker 5: All right, this big, its huge for this. 1527 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 2: You gotta name Nick Mullets. All right, do you have 1528 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 2: an upset special for tomorrow? 1529 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,919 Speaker 5: I'm looking at this and. 1530 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:34,879 Speaker 3: Are you picking the Cowboys at Miami. 1531 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 4: I'm not picking the Cowboys, no way. On the road, 1532 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 4: on the road, no shot. Not against that high powered 1533 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:41,640 Speaker 4: offense M H. 1534 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 3: Ravens on the road against the forty nine. 1535 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:50,799 Speaker 4: Ers, I'm taking I'm taking the Texans over the Browns. 1536 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,599 Speaker 3: Really, so, Texans at. 1537 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 5: Home, Texans at home, three point doll. 1538 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 3: They're gonna be able to shut down Joe Flacco, the unstoppable. 1539 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:04,599 Speaker 4: Yet Joe has a tendency to power every throw. Yes, 1540 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 4: and one thing that the Texans do. They can take 1541 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 4: the ball away. They will take the ball. 1542 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:13,000 Speaker 5: Away at CJ. 1543 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:13,679 Speaker 3: Stroud back. 1544 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 5: No, no, he hasn't cleared yet. Not no. 1545 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,639 Speaker 4: But I think defensively you're good with Case Keenum. I'm 1546 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,440 Speaker 4: okay with case Keenum. I'm not good. I'm okay. But defensively, 1547 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 4: I think this is one of those games where they're 1548 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 4: looking forward to seeing Joe Flacco because Joe feels he 1549 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 4: can make every throw. I mean, is cannon for an arm, 1550 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,640 Speaker 4: so he will throw you a few like we just 1551 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 4: saw last week. 1552 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 2: What kind of odds would you have gotten preseason? Just 1553 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 2: saying all right, let's let's look at Week sixteen, a 1554 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 2: game that will matter big time for both teams. It'll 1555 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:54,480 Speaker 2: be the Browns at the Texans, and the starting quarterbacks 1556 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,759 Speaker 2: will be Joe Flacco and Case Keenum. 1557 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,040 Speaker 3: With a playoff locations for both. 1558 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 5: You would have got no action on that at the 1559 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:04,639 Speaker 5: beginning of the season. No action. 1560 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,120 Speaker 2: I think what we are finding out is you remember 1561 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 2: I was sort of making the argument the quarterback might 1562 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,080 Speaker 2: be overrated last week because we really had it down 1563 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 2: here for quarterbacks. 1564 01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,559 Speaker 5: Overall, none of them are healthy. 1565 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 2: Well, but that makes the point that the most underrated 1566 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:21,919 Speaker 2: positions backup quarterback. 1567 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 3: I mean, yes, look, I mean Gardner minshew. 1568 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,479 Speaker 5: If you don't have one, you're done right. 1569 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,839 Speaker 2: And these teams have been able to stay the course 1570 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 2: and keep themselves in playoff contention even with second or 1571 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,680 Speaker 2: even third string quarterbacks. 1572 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,599 Speaker 4: The most valuable player on the San Francisco forty nine 1573 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 4: Ers team is Sam Darnold. Yeah, because God forbid something 1574 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 4: happened to brock Purty. You wouldn't hold your breath if 1575 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:54,800 Speaker 4: Sam got anew with all that talent. 1576 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 5: That's how big that is. 1577 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 2: If you imagine at the beginning of last year, we'd 1578 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,640 Speaker 2: be saying the forty nine ers could ill afford to 1579 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 2: lose Brock Party. 1580 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,080 Speaker 3: This is how crazy. 1581 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:08,439 Speaker 5: This league is. 1582 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,439 Speaker 4: What they learned, the forty nine ers learned, and they addressed. 1583 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,040 Speaker 4: They addressed the problem. 1584 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 3: Are you a party when he says McCaffrey should be 1585 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:15,920 Speaker 3: the MVP. 1586 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 4: No, because you have to, Like I said, you got 1587 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 4: to break a long standing record if you're any position 1588 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 4: outside quarterback. 1589 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:25,599 Speaker 5: Happy holidays, everybody. 1590 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,639 Speaker 2: Happy holidays everybody out there, and don't go anywhere. Much 1591 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 2: more coming up this is Fox Sports Radio