1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Every day. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 2: Wait, Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 3: Y'all done? Morning? 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 4: Everybody is dj n V just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club. Lona Roses here as well. 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 4: We got some special guest joining us this morning. Yes, indeed, 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 4: we have a Landy Smith here. 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 5: Good morning, good morning, good morning. 9 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 6: We have Cee, Sir Williams, good morning, good morning. 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 4: We have Fredrika Newton, good morning morning. And we have 11 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 4: fred Hampton Junior. 12 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: Good morning. 13 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 4: How y'all feeling this morning? 14 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 6: Man? 15 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 7: We're blessed man Black and blessed man, blessed Black and 16 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 7: Holly favor. Yes, Sir Landy, why we all gathered here 17 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 7: today with all these amazing people? 18 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: Brother? 19 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 5: Man? 20 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 7: We we had a New York Fashion Week show about 21 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 7: about a month ago, man, and we were blessed to 22 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 7: have these individuals show up and walk on the fast 23 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 7: on the on the runway with us, along with uh 24 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 7: doctor Bernice King and Aliosha Sabbaz, the daughters of Malcolm 25 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 7: X and Marin Luther King. And the response to it, 26 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 7: the way that black people have responded to seeing these 27 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 7: people on the runway, knowing that this history wasn't that 28 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 7: long ago, Like that, try to tell us that it 29 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 7: was has been powerful man so actively black. The company 30 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 7: that I founded, we were built with the intention to 31 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 7: uplift and reinvest back into the black community. And uh, 32 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 7: these incredible legends have been supportive of the brand. 33 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: So when you when you, I want you all to 34 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: know man Cecid Williams. 35 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 8: Right, y'all know this legends picture right here, the brother 36 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 8: drinking out of the white's only water found. I always 37 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 8: wanted to ask you, mister Williams, was it a spontaneous 38 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 8: active rebellion or something something you plan to do as 39 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 8: a statement. 40 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 6: It was a little bit of both. 41 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 9: I was thirsty, but also there was a middle of 42 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 9: the sunshine of the summer. You know, it was evident 43 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 9: to myself t shirt. But also this was not the 44 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 9: first time I did this. There were many other times 45 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 9: that I felt I wanted to look close. Really I 46 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 9: was not satisfied, but living on the status sqrore and segregation. 47 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 6: So this was. 48 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 9: Something that I had done many times, and my mother 49 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 9: wanted me not to do it anymore. But I did 50 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 9: it again and this time it was photographed. 51 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: Did you feel fear in that moment or was your 52 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: faith stronger than your field? 53 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 9: None? 54 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 6: Whatsoever? 55 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 9: This is about fifteen to twenty miles from Orangeburg and 56 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 9: on Highway twenty one and coming back from an assignment 57 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 9: for Jet magazine. 58 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 6: But I never sent this picture to Jet. 59 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 9: It was something that I held in the family, and 60 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 9: I knew I would get chewed out had I, you know, 61 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 9: given it to my mother and father to see, So 62 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 9: I hid it from them and never sent it to 63 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 9: Jet either. 64 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 8: Wow, how did they get it? 65 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 6: Maybe three or four years later. 66 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 9: I showed it to them in a conversation one Sunday 67 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 9: afternoon doing a dinner. It kind of came out and 68 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 9: then I got chewed out. 69 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: Wow. 70 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 8: What did that single act teach you about the power 71 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 8: of defiance in the faith of injustice? 72 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 9: Well, living in South Carolina, being a child of segregation, 73 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 9: it was something that we encountered all day long, from 74 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 9: birth to death. We in South Carolina during that period 75 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 9: of time felt again we were treated as subclass human being, 76 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 9: not being able to go to a store and go 77 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 9: into a rest room or go or drink get a 78 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 9: drink of water out of a fountain, or having to 79 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 9: go to a side window or go into a movie 80 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 9: theater and having to sit in a separate place or 81 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 9: not at all. So but again one thing that I 82 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 9: would like to that's maybe out of characteristic of many 83 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 9: southerns there were many good white. 84 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 6: People at the time as well. 85 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 9: You can't just put a blanket statement against that all 86 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 9: people treated us. 87 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 6: There were many good hearted. 88 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 9: White people at the time, and they were friends of 89 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 9: my family and they helped support our family so well. 90 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 9: There were some people in South Carolina again who live by, 91 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 9: who treated us as a status quo not being able 92 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 9: to do this or that. 93 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: So crazy to think about it, like, you know, when 94 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: you have these conversations, we're really not that. 95 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 6: Far removed from that at home. 96 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: That's not saying like you don't you don't really think 97 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: about it like you said earlier, like we're not far 98 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: removed from racism. And even in the story that my 99 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: dad told me, I'm like, this is crazy. 100 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: This is what fifty years ago, sixty years. 101 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 8: I got got one of my aunts. She said, I 102 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 8: don't know nothing about no I don't know nothing about 103 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 8: no integration. Yeah, she knew was segregating schools. 104 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: You know. 105 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, we had ruby bridges walked the roung way as well. 106 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 7: And it was a powerful moment because everybody remembers that 107 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 7: picture six year old little girl being escorted into the 108 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 7: school by federal marshals and Ruby just turned seventy one, 109 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 7: but you know, black on cracks, so she looks forty 110 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 7: five and she walks out on the runway. It made 111 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 7: it real to people like that same little girl in 112 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 7: that black and white photo is walking right here in 113 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 7: front of me. So that's that's the power of having 114 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 7: these individuals here with me, showing you know how close 115 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 7: we are to everything that we still fighting to this day. 116 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: Do y'all hate you, I'm sorry, Do y'all hate white people? 117 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: God damn right, And I'm gonna tell you why. When 118 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 4: I talked to my dad, my dad has a feeling 119 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 4: towards white people, right, And I always joke and I 120 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 4: laugh about it. But then when he tells me his 121 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: history of him being in the military, and you know, 122 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: they're in the same barracks. Then when they go get 123 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: some food, it's white only, and is people in the 124 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: barracks they go get food, he can't. Yeah, he talks 125 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: about the water fountain in the bathroom and all this 126 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 4: other stuff, and why he looks at white people the 127 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: way that he does, I understand it. So that's why 128 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: I ask you the same, each one of you. 129 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 9: Well, that's brought to the forefront by Landy Smith and 130 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 9: again the fashion show. In fact, he labeled the fashion show. 131 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 9: This is not a fashion show. Pictures like this are 132 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 9: just evidence of time and period we lived in America 133 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 9: that seemingly in today's society. Some people want to bring 134 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 9: it back, but it's long gone. But people at me 135 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 9: who had experienced this and people that were on the 136 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 9: show that was put together by this amazing brother who 137 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 9: has brought forth this apparel that again has criss crossed 138 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 9: across America and being put into the hands of today's generation. 139 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 9: T shirts and other things that he makes. We're not 140 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 9: going to stand for again segregating America. It's going to 141 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 9: be something that is long gone. And to answer your question, 142 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 9: there are again many many good white people. And again 143 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 9: there's a myths I think that all white people are bad. 144 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 8: I was growing up in South Carolina was such a 145 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 8: mind fuck because to your point, I grew up around 146 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 8: a lot of good white people, but then we were 147 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 8: also aware of the white people who treated us like 148 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 8: sad as cool, like there's a certain places you knew 149 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 8: you weren't supposed to go but then I also had 150 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 8: my white friend and Thomas and his family who lived 151 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 8: right by me, so it was a class thing. 152 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: So it's just it's just, i don't know, talk kind 153 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: of different. 154 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: But the tag team. But you first, I'm chairman, Fred 155 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: Himpton Jr. I'm honored to be here again, conch fits 156 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: salute to this brother and his wife, his team. You 157 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because say everything's political, including fashion 158 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: able to get this peel in the apple sauce, these 159 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: type of discussions, it's a revolutionaries. It's a misnom about 160 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: like it's motivated your moves, how we move, it's a 161 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: hatred for someone else. Comandante uh Ernest though Chakovar said, 162 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, a revolutionary no matter how preposterous it may sound, 163 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: it's got about the most sincereous sentiments of love. And 164 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this sort of abstracts sort of way, 165 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: but we're talking about the work such organizations the Black 166 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: Panther Party. The motivation of getting up with the first 167 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: free breakfast programs, free busting programs, survival programs was not 168 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: directly at a hatred for anyone, you know what I'm saying, 169 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: But again, motivate for love for people. But let me 170 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: say this, though, I think all black people should get 171 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: like a mass Nobel Peace Prize, all of us. 172 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 173 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: The fact that we ain't just on mass snapped out. 174 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's a run that we 175 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: ain't motivated at a hatred. But again, and sometimes even 176 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: though it's a reactionary response is kind of justified. 177 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: But again, for the record, it's a motive. Got a 178 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: love for the people. 179 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 10: Like to echo if I could, Hi, I'm Frederica and 180 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 10: Huing Newton was my husband. And what came to mind 181 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 10: when you when you even asked that question was quote 182 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 10: from Hue that said, what motivates people is not hatred, 183 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 10: but it's love for other people. So my mother was white, 184 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 10: and she introduced me to Hue because she was doing 185 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 10: work with the Black Panther Party and she was the 186 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 10: only one that they trusted to do the real estate work. 187 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 10: So I couldn't. I did not grow up hating anyone. 188 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 10: But what I do hate is white supremacy and the 189 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 10: impact on black community. I actually hate that and the 190 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 10: impacts of the impact that has had on us. So again, 191 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 10: as my brother said, so eloquently as he always does, 192 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 10: as he always does, is that the Black Panther Party 193 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 10: service was out of love, out of love for black people, 194 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 10: out of love for oppressed people. And it wasn't it 195 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 10: wasn't guided by hate. So it's impossible for me to 196 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 10: hate anybody. I mean, I'm sorry, no, no, go ahead, now. 197 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: I was glads. 198 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 8: What's the biggest misconception people still have about the Black 199 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 8: Panther Party. 200 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 10: I think there were two, and you can, sir join me. 201 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 10: One of them is that women were not in leadership 202 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 10: in the Black Panther Party. 203 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 11: Women were, in fact. 204 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 10: Seventy percent of the membership at one point with women. 205 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 10: And the fact that Black Panther Party was a racist 206 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 10: organization and we worked in coalition with all organizations whose 207 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 10: common fight was against oppression. So those were two misnomers. 208 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 10: The history likes to talk about the misogyny and division 209 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 10: between black men and black women and the party, and 210 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 10: we came in with our own stuff. The average age 211 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 10: was seventeen in the Black Panther Party, so you had 212 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 10: pimps and educators, you. 213 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 11: Know, all. 214 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 10: And so we fought against we fought against homophobia, we 215 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 10: fought against misogyny and these things were we were called 216 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 10: out for those things. So you know, we were young 217 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 10: men and women whose motivation was love and people were 218 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 10: like his dad put their lives on the line and 219 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 10: gave them their lives out of love, not out of hatred. 220 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 12: Did your mother ever, I know you said that your 221 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 12: mother was white. She see her face any hardships, I did. 222 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 10: My mother's whole whole business was dismantled as a result 223 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 10: of her work with the party. The FBI has a 224 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 10: file this stick on my mother. So I grew up 225 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 10: also seeing the white people I knew growing up were 226 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 10: all progressive. So I saw the great sacrifices that she 227 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 10: made financially, emotionally, physically, as we all did. 228 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 11: So yes, I did. 229 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 13: Mss Frederick, How do you feel today when you see 230 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 13: like the government and different people honoring either Black Panther 231 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 13: Party or Martin Luther King or Malcolm X. And you know, 232 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 13: things were so different back then where you didn't feel 233 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 13: that support from the government owners well even even the 234 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 13: way that even the way they just talked about or 235 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 13: like portrayeding like movies and like you know, they use 236 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 13: it to make money off of the story and the 237 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 13: tales or whatever. But then you guys were cast out 238 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 13: and made to be these horrible people who were racist 239 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 13: and didn't want anything to do with progression. 240 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 10: I see that doors are opening because we've done the work. 241 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 10: We've done the work to educate people on what the 242 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 10: true history was. I don't see the government supporting us. 243 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 10: I mean maybe local government. The city of Oakland has 244 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 10: given us a lot of support. We now have the 245 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 10: Black Panther Party Museum, and people travel internationally to come 246 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 10: see this museum from the because there has been no 247 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 10: history available. So I think that doors are opening, not 248 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 10: only with white people, but with black people too, because 249 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 10: black people were scared to. 250 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 11: Embrace his history. 251 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 10: And I know you could speak to that too, with 252 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 10: Judas and the Black Messiah. 253 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: It's the exact team, which you know, I'll make sure 254 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: the narrative that time we talked about, you know, struggles 255 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: and some sort of abstract and starts sort of way. 256 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: But a manager at the Black Panther Party cubs and organizations, 257 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: as we say, it's tough act to follow, but not 258 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: to walk in the footsteps, but the path of all 259 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: steps of the Black Panther Party. And a lot of 260 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: times we talked, you know, I was looking to see 261 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: an interview I think in the late late eighties where 262 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: they had Muhammad Ali on they put him on a 263 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: Whai cereal box and then interviewer sayd why would you 264 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: put him on the weedy cereal box now? You want 265 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: to touch him before? And the representative for Weed seius, 266 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: who we do it now because he's because he's safe, 267 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: and we we say we serve hot politics and hot 268 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: food with our present day survival programs on and so forth. 269 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: And of course uhs tainted when the ruling class, you 270 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because their position his storage. We even 271 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: talking about Malcolm Mixture about to march on Washington when 272 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: they positioned this and they can't stop it, co opt it, 273 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: wore it down, change it, mix, slain the beat. So 274 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: we have to like there was a lot of battles, 275 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: like even Judie and Black Messaiah we had to struggle 276 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: to us. Were subsequently ended with what I referred to 277 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: as a dream team with the cast and UH to 278 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: be able to put that path of cub peel in 279 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: the Apple sauce. It's it's humbling being oppressed, it's embarrassing 280 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: being oppressed. So a lot of times you know, we 281 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: got to work with different dynamics and getting to get 282 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: to get the message out, but still make sure we 283 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: maintain our politics France Fanad said, be able to accept 284 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: their concessions without compromise and our principles. 285 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 8: So how do you just always protect the legacy of 286 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 8: the Panthers from being commercialized or white wise? 287 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: That day a battle I'm talking, I just really come 288 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: in yesterday. I can't. 289 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: I said, I got to sleep with my with the 290 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: bulletproof vests on a political bulletproof vests. You know what 291 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because again in a lot of times it's 292 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: the farious intent or naivety. Sometimes you don't mean no harm. 293 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: They'll come in like even no, no, not out of egotistical, 294 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: but the title Chairman Fred, It's not egotistics, you know 295 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a struggle like for people you 296 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: respect the structured organization. The Black Panther Party wasn't just 297 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: some rag tag group of cats. You had to minister 298 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: defense up Newton and chairman Boby c and colonization and 299 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: impact our people so bad. Automatically, they respect ruling class titles. 300 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: They'll say professors such and such whatever. When it comes 301 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: to our people. You know what I'm saying, organization is 302 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: stead on its own terms. We struggle abou chairming Fred 303 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: and Defence Count tomork Clark. They were assassinated. You know 304 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We don't the other other community. They 305 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: don't play no games about you. You you wanted to turn, 306 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: they said, hold on. That's makes me very clear about 307 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: those terms political prisoners. When we jamali ma'am mean so 308 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: many others. We have the struggle again be consistent even 309 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: when it's non fashionable. 310 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 8: Speaking of fashion, Uh Lanny, why was it important to 311 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 8: have these historical black figures walk into Actively Black fashion show? 312 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: Yeah? 313 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 7: So one the tagline for Actively Black is there's greatness 314 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 7: in our DNA and very intentional about that because I 315 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 7: think over the centuries of oppression, subconsciously our people have accepted, 316 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 7: not I won't say accepted. Sometimes it seeks into our 317 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 7: subconscious that we are less than, not as good as 318 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 7: this is what has been told to us, this is 319 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 7: what has been preached to us for centuries. I'm trying 320 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 7: to rewrite that narrative. I'm trying to deprogram and reprogram 321 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 7: our own people to understand that there's greatness in our DNA. 322 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 7: It's literal greatness in the DNA that walked on that 323 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 7: runway when you see Malcolm and Martin's daughters walk on 324 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 7: that runway together. That DNA is something that has that 325 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 7: has move mountains, that has changed lives, you know what 326 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 7: I'm saying, And that exists within all of us. So 327 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 7: it was important for our people to see that, to 328 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 7: know that we are more than just our trauma, you 329 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 7: know what I mean. We have so much greatness inside 330 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 7: of us, and if we start acting out of that greatness, 331 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 7: that's how we can change things for our community. 332 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: How difficult was it getting everybody in and how how 333 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 4: long did it taken? 334 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 5: It was stressful. 335 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 7: One there was a white supremacist who was killed by 336 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 7: another white man about a week before our show, and yeah, yeah, 337 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 7: and it sent some shockwaves through our plans because you're 338 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 7: talking about children of people who were assassinated, real political violence, 339 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 7: and so I had to reconvince Iliasa Shabaz and Doctor 340 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 7: King to still be a part of this show. There 341 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 7: were some safety concerns. We had to bring in three 342 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 7: extra teams of security just to make sure that they 343 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 7: were secure, because the rhetoric was that there was going 344 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 7: to be payback, which never made sense to me because 345 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 7: there was a white man that killed them, you know 346 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 7: what I mean. But I think the reason why I 347 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 7: was able to execute on that was the respect that 348 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 7: I had paid to these individuals before everyone you see 349 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 7: up here, Doctor King, doctor Eliosta Shabbaz. I went to 350 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 7: them and asked them for permission to put their family 351 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 7: members on this gear. I have licensing agreements with them 352 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 7: so that when we sell apparel, the Black Panther Party 353 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 7: Museum gets money, Fred Hampton, the Hampton House gets money. 354 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 7: Cecil Williams Museum gets money. Right the Sabbaz Center, the 355 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 7: King Center actively black pays them when we sell this 356 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 7: merch And so you can go on any market on 357 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 7: any weekend and you'll see a lot of us selling 358 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 7: this stuff, not realizing these people actually lost people in 359 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 7: this struggle and they weren't compensated right, And so I 360 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 7: think I earned a level of respect with them that 361 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 7: when I made that call and I asked, can you 362 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 7: walk on this wrong way for me? They answered the call. 363 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 7: And I feel so humbled. I mean, doctor King, when 364 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 7: she when she arrived, she gave me a signed speech 365 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 7: from from her father and she prayed with me, and 366 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 7: I broke down and cried. You know what I mean, 367 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 7: Like her schedule is crazy for her to move around 368 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 7: her travel schedule to be there for this show. Uh, 369 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 7: it's something I'm forever grateful. 370 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: Did y'all have any concerns, any security concerns at all? 371 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 7: My man came and made sure we were we were, 372 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 7: we were, we were, We. 373 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 5: Were good with the security. 374 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 7: We weren't gonna let nobody even get close to touching 375 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 7: you know this royalty. 376 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, respect, no touch on his love of respect. Are 377 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: trying to say Black people we like, we like treat 378 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: like the Rodney Danger feels of all racist, no no respect, 379 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: and like even it's a real big thing with us, 380 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: like with the movie Julius and Black Massiry Ryan Cooler. 381 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, the respect they can't this 382 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: brother here, I mean the respect. You know what I'm saying, 383 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: you can Uh, this video was a homeless brother told 384 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: me you can feel disrespect, but the respect that they 385 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: have again, that that helped set the stage. And I'm 386 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: saying how he came in, how we continued to move together. 387 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 10: If I could say something about licensing rights and bootleg 388 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 10: you can go out any day of the week and 389 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 10: see Black Panther Party everything, And there's no way that 390 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 10: I could financially. 391 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 11: Stop that. 392 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 10: Lannie, how long did you try and get. 393 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 11: In touch with us? 394 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 10: For a few years And he didn't have to. He 395 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 10: didn't have to. He could have put Hughey's imagery. And 396 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 10: this is the second line that he's done. The first 397 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 10: was all power to the people where it was Black 398 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 10: Panther Party icons the cat. He didn't have to do that, 399 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 10: I mean, and he did. So I'll do anything to 400 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 10: support him and actively black, anything to support him because 401 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 10: of the respect that he played all of us is. 402 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 10: I'm just gonna say he didn't have to do it. 403 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: Man of integrity. 404 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 11: He's a man of integrity. 405 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 14: What does it mean to be actively black? 406 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 7: That's such a layer question. And there's a reason why 407 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 7: I named it that you got to understand. When I 408 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 7: was starting to actively black. By the way, we'll celebrate 409 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 7: five years this Black Friday. We launched on Black Friday 410 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 7: twenty twenty. I had a lot of black people tell me, 411 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 7: don't name the company actively Black. I had black executives 412 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 7: tell me, if you put black in this name, it 413 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 7: will not be successful. And I realized that a lot 414 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 7: of them were speaking from a place of a fear 415 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 7: of working in corporate environments where they had to minimize 416 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 7: who they were in their identity, And so there's nothing 417 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 7: passive about what we have to do to uplift our people, right, 418 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 7: So it's a double entendre. I want our people to 419 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 7: be more healthy. We do free mental health events, we 420 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 7: do f activations where we're having people do yoga, sound, bath, meditation. 421 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 7: We're getting our people access to the things that they 422 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 7: need so that we can keep moving. That's the only 423 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 7: way the movement can keep going is if we're healthy 424 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 7: enough to keep moving. Right, So it's a double chandra. 425 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 7: We're active, we're brand, but also what we have to 426 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 7: do to uplift our people is nothing passive about this mission. 427 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 13: How do you feel when creators Because I know a 428 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 13: lot of different artists, fashion designers or whatever that are 429 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 13: black that feel like they shouldn't have to have the 430 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 13: responsibility to do what you're doing in their work, and 431 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 13: they make it a point like they don't want to 432 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 13: be called black designers. They just want to be designers. 433 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 13: They don't want to have to you know, like Kirby 434 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 13: when he did the fashion show that he did that 435 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 13: talked about the attack on black lives. They feel like 436 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 13: they shouldn't have to do that because they're black. How 437 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 13: do you feel about creators that take that sense. 438 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, I disagree wholeheartedly. I've even seen so many of 439 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 7: our black figures make statements against championing Black. 440 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 5: Owned, which just really confuses me. 441 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 7: You know what I mean, Because when we think about 442 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 7: the European designer that our people will spend our money on, 443 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 7: we look at something that's made in Italy or that's 444 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 7: Parisians as a feature, right, black owned is not a description, 445 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 7: it's a feature. We are the most creative people on earth. 446 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 7: We are the most soulful people on earth. It's a 447 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 7: feature to be black owned when you think about what 448 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 7: we've created from nothing, and so I champion it. But also, 449 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 7: I'm not a designer. 450 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 3: You know. 451 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 7: I didn't start this because I was a designer. I 452 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 7: went to design school. I'm a former basketball player. Hurt 453 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 7: my knee thirty days after I signed my first NBA contract. 454 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 7: This is not a world that I even thought I 455 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 7: was going to be in. Actively. Black is a purpose driven, 456 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 7: mission driven thing. I didn't even start this to make 457 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 7: the most money possible. It was how do I create 458 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 7: something that can uplift my people? And in twenty twenty 459 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 7: when after the murder George Floyd and Breonna Taylor and 460 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 7: Nahmad Aubrey, I saw a lot of the brands that 461 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 7: I grew up wearing make performative declarations about what they 462 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 7: were going to do for black people and never do it. 463 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 7: And you see four years later that's what it was. 464 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 7: It was performative. It was part of a marketing strategy. 465 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 7: And so my thought was, it's time for us to 466 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 7: stop asking for a seat at the table and build 467 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 7: our own table. You know, the McKenzie report that came 468 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 7: out in twenty twenty four says black people today it's 469 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 7: been between twenty to twenty five billion on apparel and 470 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 7: shoes annually. So when I'm talking about a reparation, it's reclamation. 471 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 7: It's something that if we turn our influence, our global 472 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 7: influence inward to something that we own that champions us. 473 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 7: How powerful is that if we're giving back to not 474 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 7: only these folks, but to our community at the size 475 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 7: that we are. Now, what happens when we build the 476 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 7: black owned version of Nike? You know what happens when 477 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 7: actively Black is a multi billion dollar brand that can 478 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 7: keep doing what we're doing. 479 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 9: And by the way, Matt pickaback on, that image of 480 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 9: drinking out of the fountain had been you might say, 481 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 9: stolen over decades, used without giving asking permission. 482 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 6: When Lady Smith, an active right. 483 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 9: Came in to photograph us, he said he was going 484 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 9: to give us a contribution to our non profit museum. 485 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 9: We have the first and only civil rights museum in 486 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 9: South Carolina, the South Carolina Civil Rights Museum. And forty 487 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 9: five days after again this brother and his brand, his 488 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 9: crew came in and photographed us and put this image 489 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 9: on his peril. We got a check from him, well, 490 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 9: PayPal if. 491 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 6: You want to. 492 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 9: And then again after the New York Show again they 493 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 9: sold I think maybe about fifty thousand dollars more T shirts. 494 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 9: They sent me another check, so they reciprocate. But what 495 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 9: he's doing here is so ingenious because it's little known 496 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 9: that the power impact of one image, say an image, 497 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 9: an image is eight times more, if active, than the 498 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 9: written language. And educators should begin to use this in 499 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 9: our systems today, teaching everyone and having that power and 500 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 9: capacity to see no longer is it really going to 501 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 9: be a reading, writing, and arithmetic. It's going to be reading, 502 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 9: writing and seeing or looking and with AI making his presence. 503 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 9: So this brother is using images to make an impact. 504 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: So what. 505 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 9: My fellow individuals here are doing and myself, we are 506 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 9: bringing it again the sacrifices that we where we paved 507 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 9: the way for today's generation forward and the power and 508 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 9: impact to make this relative today is immeasurable by again 509 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 9: such access. 510 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 6: What he's doing to put images on. 511 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: T shirts looks so clean in that picture. What you 512 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: was doing for money back then? 513 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 9: By the season, I was taking pictures. I took pictures 514 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 9: ever since I was nine years old, and at twelve 515 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 9: years old, I found out I could make money. I 516 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 9: did a waiting for thirty five dollars. 517 00:24:59,600 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 5: Wow. 518 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 6: And we're homeboys in. 519 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 9: South Carolina's home state. So you know, as you know, 520 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 9: we don't give up. But by the way, when you 521 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 9: ask a question about again. 522 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 6: About you know, what's. 523 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 9: Happened today and things like that, we're not going back. 524 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 9: We as the people have fought too long and too hard, 525 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 9: and not only that, we have the stamina to face 526 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 9: anything that's going on in America today. We're not going 527 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 9: back to that. The young people not going to stand 528 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 9: for it. The middle aged people are not going to 529 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 9: stand for it. And the old people like us who 530 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 9: have actually experienced this, we're not going back. It's going 531 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 9: to be we're going forward with democracy, freedom and justice. 532 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 8: Do you believe today's generation carries the same spirit or 533 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 8: sacrifice that your generation did? 534 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 9: Yes, it's just that it has not been focused on 535 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 9: and utilize. But things like this act that this brother 536 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 9: put together will help to materialize this. It would be 537 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 9: amazing of how he has really put into motion millions 538 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 9: of people across these the states, which simple as simple 539 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 9: as an image on a T shirt, this classic image 540 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 9: here of Huet Newton, a statement that again you can't 541 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 9: really measure the impact. 542 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 6: That that will be to young minds who. 543 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 9: Are growing up and again reading, writing, arithmetic had its 544 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 9: place in our education. But again it's a different thing 545 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 9: again five and six years old people, our students and 546 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 9: our youth using cell phones. And so it's amazing of 547 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 9: what the future is going to bring with this kind 548 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 9: of instant learning that we are now accustomed to. 549 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 8: You you know, you know, Landy, you have put a 550 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 8: post up and you said all the black people who 551 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 8: have said posted and reposted, I am not my ancestors. 552 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: Get ready. 553 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 8: The chance to prove that statement is coming soon. It's 554 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 8: easy for us to talk tough while not living in 555 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 8: Jim Crow and this Jim Crow two point oho is 556 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 8: fully installed. Were going to see that ancestor in passing 557 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 8: in real time. 558 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, so how do you? 559 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 8: How do you want folks to show up? Because I 560 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 8: agree with you, I don't know if they got the 561 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 8: we got to stand. 562 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 10: Yeah. 563 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: I love the optimism here, you know what I'm saying. 564 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 7: But you know, I see people make that statement I 565 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 7: am not, we are not our ancestors, and it. 566 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 5: Pisches me off. 567 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 7: You know what I mean when you think about the 568 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 7: sacrifices that were made. We can't stay out of certain stores, 569 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I've been telling people, hey, 570 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 7: Lululemon don't want you, come get these types from actively Black. 571 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 7: We can't stay out of certain stores, and they tell 572 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 7: us they don't want us. So I don't know that 573 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 7: we have collectively our generation and the younger generation shown 574 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 7: that we have that level of sacrifice and grit that 575 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 7: it takes. You know, people gave their lives. 576 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 577 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 7: I'm reading rereading ASADA's biography and just when you read 578 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 7: the things that she went through as a revolutionary for 579 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 7: our people, I don't know to me, people that's willing. 580 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 5: To give up so much for the struggle. It's people 581 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 5: that have told. 582 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 7: Me, man, I love actively black silently, but I can't 583 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 7: publicly support it because I might lose this or somebody 584 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 7: might be So if if you scared to lose a check, 585 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 7: if you're scared to what these people are gonna think 586 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 7: of you for being boldly black, then you don't. You're 587 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 7: definitely not our ancestors. Because our ancestors are willing to 588 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 7: die for this. And so that's what I meant by that, Like, 589 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 7: we're gonna find out soon we see what's happening in 590 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 7: this country. We're gonna see who's willing to actually stand 591 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 7: up and be like our ancestors. 592 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 8: You know, brother Seeson, you've witnessed you know, segregation, civil 593 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 8: rights marches, movements like Black Lives Matter. How do you 594 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 8: see the evolution of protest in America? 595 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 9: Well, I think today with social media and other kinds 596 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 9: of things that we have in our society that runs 597 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 9: rampart through all from middle school children on up, we 598 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 9: have different tools for today's environment and for today is 599 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 9: our position and the things that are again oppressive to 600 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 9: us as a people. But one thing is gonna remain 601 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 9: of the same we as African Americans have as a 602 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 9: stamma we he come from again, see very apply what's 603 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 9: out the in our DNA to withstand the heat, withstand 604 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 9: the pressure, and to move on. But again, as I 605 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 9: say there a minute ago, I believe that today's generation 606 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 9: we have the they have the capacity to do it. 607 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 9: It's just that they have not been focused in the 608 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 9: right and so we're kind of running around englessly without 609 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 9: the unit say their leadership to what we can do today. 610 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 9: But just for example, suppose, for example, people of color 611 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 9: were to unite. Suppose Jewish people, Hispanic people, African American people, 612 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 9: our Indian brothers, our East Indian brothers, our Native Americans. 613 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 9: So by the way, whose history has been wiped off 614 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 9: the face of the earth by may or the fact 615 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 9: that they just stood down and withstood European settlements in 616 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 9: this country. Just think if people of color would unite. 617 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 9: They just think of the political possibilities of that coalition. 618 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 7: I think, I think we I think we have to 619 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 7: be we have to unite ourselves first. That's that's you know, 620 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 7: there's there's so there's so many things that divide us. 621 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 7: We still got diaspora, a wars, We still have so 622 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 7: much toxicity when it comes to even between black men 623 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 7: and black women. I think if we can unite first, 624 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 7: I think everybody else gonna follow our. 625 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 5: Lead like they always do, you know what I mean. 626 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 7: So yeah, that's that's part of my plan and my 627 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 7: mission with Actively Black is to be that flag, that 628 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 7: banner that we can all fly under. I'm not just 629 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 7: building this just for Black America. I'm building this for 630 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 7: the entire diaspora, you know what I mean when I 631 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 7: say actively Black. 632 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 13: I know there's always the conversations about reparations. Is there 633 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 13: a way do you guys feel like and is there 634 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 13: a way that you feel like you could ever be 635 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 13: really repaid for what your families have had to go through, 636 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 13: what you've had to experience, Because people make that conversation 637 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 13: so simple of like we should re receiving this because 638 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 13: we went through this, But you guys personally experienced so 639 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 13: much loss and hurt, like is that or is there 640 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 13: a real antwer to that for you? 641 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: No, of course, no matter resources can commensate. You know 642 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I'm gonna say this, the terrorism 643 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: that we've been subjected to. In fact, we say that, 644 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, every day is septimty eleven for us, and 645 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: in fact we define these some of the Fourth Fro 646 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, amongst other days. It's one of our 647 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: Septement eleven stories. Uh, we say yesterday and two of 648 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: our twin towers quote unquote Feil chairman friend defensing the 649 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: Marl Claque. But just the question of resource, I mean, 650 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: reparations are deep. Uh definitely, Uh, economists the resources player 651 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: key roll. But the political significance of this is important too, 652 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: how we view ourselves. A lot of our people don't 653 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: think were worthy of being attacked, and like we have to, 654 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So for the rooting class 655 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: in particular, to acknowledge that, you know what I'm saying again, 656 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: these we are we are I say, black people, We 657 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: the ov not the old g's. We had the original 658 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: victims of terrorism, people who have been terrorismals. So euphanism 659 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: as slavery, Jim Crow red lining, deaths passing away. So 660 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: just so that that discussion, I mean that that's hop 661 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: and so many other communities different people don't reparations. Why 662 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: is it such a position not to talk about that 663 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: with the black community and reparation even more than the economics. Uh, 664 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: the bodies the most valuable resources that they have been 665 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: stolen from our people. With black bodies. We got political 666 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: prisoners who are still locked up. We got to get that, 667 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, say, and the resource the finance too. 668 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 10: You know, I wanted to address the question that you 669 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 10: asked before about the ancestors and how does it feel. 670 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 10: It saddens me when when I see those posts on online, 671 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 10: but it also makes me think that it's it's real 672 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 10: evidence of of lack of education around what ancestors. So 673 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 10: it's by design, And here's evidence that there's misinformation. Even 674 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 10: my own grandchildren when I when I overhear what they're learning, 675 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 10: what they're what they're taught in school. And my own 676 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 10: son and my grandchildren get no history on revolutionary organizations 677 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 10: like the Black Panther Party. So this is just further evidence. 678 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 10: When you see something so ignorant that says we are 679 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 10: not our ancestors, I said, you're actually not. But had 680 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 10: you read about what your ancestors actually did, what they 681 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 10: actually did instead of the sanitized version of Martin and 682 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 10: Malcolm and the Black Panther Party and all the history 683 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 10: that was erased. Then you would be proud to say, 684 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 10: I want to be like my ancestors. 685 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 11: That's my goal. 686 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 12: And it's so scary because they're really trying to delete 687 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 12: and get rid of all of our history. So, like 688 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 12: you just said, your grandkids, they don't the things that 689 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 12: they're being taught. It's not even of what you all 690 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 12: went through or actually don't know the first thing about it, 691 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 12: you know. 692 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 14: So it's like, how does history lessons go for you? 693 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 14: Are you their teacher? 694 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: Then? 695 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 12: Like do you how do you handle that when you 696 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 12: see what they're being taught and what they're not being taught? 697 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 10: I thank god I have a museum that they as 698 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 10: as Cecil so aptly said, black people are visual and 699 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 10: the Black Panther Party knew that and they're visual learners. 700 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 10: We weren't necessarily a reading community. So at the beginning, 701 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 10: at the end the front and the back of every 702 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 10: Black Panther Party newspaper which is in publication for thirteen years, 703 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 10: there was images. Emry Douglas a Sally Dixon were our 704 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 10: artists and they painted, they drew what was more impactful 705 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 10: than what they would have read had they read. My 706 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 10: kids are the same way. They come and they see 707 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 10: the images in the museum and they ask questions. It 708 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 10: impacts them. When I brought my granddaughter to the Actively 709 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 10: Black show two years ago and my grandson this time, 710 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 10: and they were blown away. My grandson way, hold up, 711 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 10: that's Ruby Bridges, Nana, and when it was Tommy Smith 712 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 10: and John Carli. 713 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 9: What. 714 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 10: He's fifteen years old, so he is learning some history, 715 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 10: but to see it in living color and him wearing 716 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 10: he only wears actively black. He only wears actively black 717 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 10: apparel to school. This almost makes me cry because he 718 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 10: only would wear Nike before. He would only wear Nike, 719 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 10: and I try and to talk to him about what's 720 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 10: going on, but he only wears actively black. 721 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: You know. 722 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: The beauty of what Landy's doing though. 723 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 8: He got the images, but then he got the people 724 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 8: to tell the story. 725 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 3: What scares me is that we live in. 726 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 8: An era where people can make up images and make 727 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 8: up stories. 728 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: Behind those images. 729 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 8: So I don't know why we have so much faith 730 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 8: in you know, the images of this error moving forward? 731 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think that was also part of 732 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 7: the strength of what we did with the show, right, 733 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 7: it was not just the imagery, It wasn't just the videos. 734 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 5: Is people being able to see them in person, you know. 735 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 7: So I know one of the things we've talked about, 736 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 7: doctor Eliosis Abiza talked about, Doctor Kenye has talked about 737 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 7: is taking what we did in New York Fashion Week, 738 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 7: going on tour, letting people see Cecil Williams, Fredrika Newton, Sherman, 739 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 7: fred Hampton Junior in person, seeing Ruby Bridges walk out 740 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 7: in person, because that, you know, AI can't do that, you. 741 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 12: Know what I mean, and something I think is really 742 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 12: really dope, you know, but I just want to make 743 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 12: sure it's true your clothing products are made from cotton 744 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 12: from black farmers or is that a specific line specific line? 745 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 7: So you know, when Trump announced the one hundred and 746 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 7: fifty percent tariffs, it really impacted us. Most of our 747 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 7: performance apparel at leisure apparel is made from overseas, so 748 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 7: we were trying to look to find the domestic partner 749 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 7: to see what we could get done here in the 750 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 7: United States. And I thought about these black farmers who 751 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 7: have lost ninety percent of their land in the last 752 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 7: seventy five years. So we used to own twenty million 753 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 7: acres of farmland black farmers. We now only own three 754 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 7: million acres of farmland, and in the next twenty years 755 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 7: that could potentially go to zero. So we partner with 756 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 7: bridge Forth Farms, a fifth generation black farmer, and we 757 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 7: to cotton directly from them. So the hoodie I'm wearing 758 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 7: right now, it shows on the back it says made 759 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 7: from cotton. 760 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 14: From cotton. 761 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 7: So when people when people buy this product, when they 762 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 7: buying this hoodie and they buying a cotton shirt, there's 763 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 7: money that's going directly to these black farmers who have 764 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 7: been historically discriminated against from the government, and there's some 765 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 7: power in it. It's a story of reclamation. People don't 766 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 7: understand that the entire United States economy was built off 767 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 7: the backs of slavery and cotton. And we're talking about 768 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 7: trillion trillions of dollars in today's money that was generated 769 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 7: that our people were kept out of. So what happens 770 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 7: when we reclaim this thing that was once used. 771 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 5: To enslave us? What if we use that to save us? 772 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 773 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 7: And that's what I've been trying to get people to understand, 774 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 7: especially about this collection. In particular, I had black people 775 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 7: telling me, man that the cotton shirt is too expensive, 776 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 7: the hoodie is too expensive. It's like, man, you'll go 777 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 7: spend eight hundred dollars on that Louis. You'll go spend 778 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 7: it on that Gucci. But you're telling me that this 779 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 7: collection that is literally from cotton grown by black farmers 780 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 7: that are supporting us, that that black dollar recirculates in 781 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 7: our community, it's too expensive. And that's an issue of 782 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 7: how we value ourselves versus the things that we value 783 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 7: from other people, not understanding that we are the sauce 784 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 7: and the seasoning. We are the originators of all of 785 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 7: this that gets colonized, repackaged and sold back to us. 786 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 14: That is actively black though. 787 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 3: That is dope. 788 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 14: That is a flex made from cotton grown by black farmers. 789 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 4: No, you cooked up with Michael Jackson State and did 790 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 4: a Michael Jackson collab. How difficult was that? 791 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 7: Honestly, you know these collabs have come in away, that 792 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 7: these doors have been opened where now it's they're they're 793 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 7: coming at us. I got a shout out Damon John, 794 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:04,959 Speaker 7: founder of Food, because it started with him. He reached 795 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 7: out to do a Footboo collab we sat down, talked 796 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 7: about it, got everything straight, and he asked me, what 797 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 7: else are you working on? And I showed him a 798 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 7: concept of a Black Panther actively Black collab because the 799 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 7: movie that came out in twenty eighteen was such an 800 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 7: inspiration to me. He picked up the phone in the 801 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 7: middle of the meeting and called the head of licensing 802 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 7: for Marvel and Disney and said, y'all need to see 803 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 7: what I just saw. So our first major collaboration was 804 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 7: for Wakanda Forever, and when that happened, it just kind 805 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 7: of opened the floodgates. The Bob Marley estate reached out 806 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 7: ahead of the One Love movie, So that's how we 807 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 7: got that collaboration. 808 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 5: We've got one with the Tupac A State as well. 809 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 7: So now that you know, they saw that we operated 810 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 7: in excellence in the way that we executed on these collaborations, 811 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 7: So now the doors have been opened. So we got 812 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 7: a Bosqueyach collab coming out this December. It'll release that 813 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 7: art basel all of these these these legends in black history, charlamage. 814 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 5: You wearing the Mhammad Ali collab that we got. 815 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 7: Lanni Ali literally told me, she said, we've done collapsed 816 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 7: with every brand you could think of. But my husband 817 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 7: stood for way more than what he just did in 818 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 7: the ring. I believe actively black can tell a story 819 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 7: they can't tell. So I think that's that's the power 820 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 7: of what we're doing with actively black. 821 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 8: I want to ask you, brother, fred your father once 822 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 8: said you can kill a revolutionary, but you can't kill 823 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 8: the revolution. So what does that revolution look like in 824 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 8: twenty twenty five? I want you to chime in on 825 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 8: that to Frederick. 826 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: A couple of things. I think people get involved in 827 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: struggle or become quote unquote conscious one of three ways inspiration, 828 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: aspiration or desperation, And there's are definitely different depthent times. 829 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: That's them to the war and the revolution. The war 830 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: you get your respective armies, you suit up and you boot 831 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: up and you get out to get out. Revolution you 832 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: gain the mass and participation on the masters of the 833 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: people these times right now, quote from Lennon and say 834 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: what it takes people twenty years and learn in ordinary times, 835 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: they can learn in two years, and revolutionary times often 836 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: said that I'm a revolutionary in reaction every time. So 837 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: right now you see, like at warp speed, the different 838 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: type of discussions you look in nineteen sixty sixty during 839 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: the Black Power movement, you had a different sort of athlete, 840 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: you had a different sort of entertainer. It was a 841 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 1: climate where Marvin Gaye was able to go against Bear 842 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: Gordon Red records, I'm gonna put this song out, what's 843 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: going on, whether you like it or not. It was 844 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: a climate where James Brown, who had a whole totally 845 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: different song played at first, well, ah try Brown, I know, 846 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: see man, I mean, went to drove down on him 847 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: and he say get up to ante. He came back 848 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: out said I'm black and I'm proud. Even at different 849 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 1: street tribes, a lot of people refer to as the gangs. 850 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: You had the Devil Disciples in Chicago's get up publicly 851 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: and say we now renowned ourself that we know it's 852 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: the Black Disciples. Due to doing doing part to the 853 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: political education we received from chairman I hotly respect chairman 854 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: with the black chairman for wepons, the party impacted on 855 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: them the vice laws. 856 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: I said. The FBI tried to post the vice laws 857 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: in Chicago to him. 858 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: They'd give them a certain portion of the West Side 859 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: if the Path of Party couldn't open a free medical 860 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: center chairman Fred won these brothers and sisters to a 861 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: point of unity. But they subsequently worked to the Free 862 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: Medical Center and by the government's own account, they own records. 863 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: They say it was a record load. So they call 864 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: black on black crime. So to go to the heart 865 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: of the question, that's what is these type of dynamics, 866 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying where you know that it's 867 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: our relationships, our music, our discussions. 868 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: It's a whole. You can feel it. 869 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 6: You know. 870 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: My mother tells me, I like to call them war 871 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: and love stories. She comes, you know, saying two three 872 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: in the morning, you know, say coming down street. 873 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: The people. 874 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, uh not not drunks or wine. 875 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: Here is who are demoralized even the terms with you 876 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, who the more they are power 877 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: to the people, you know what I'm saying, A different climate, 878 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And you can see it even 879 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: now I'm watching right now your cargo. You can see 880 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: it the type of discussion that are being up and 881 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people are forced to have the discussion 882 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: and say this enclosing, people talk about the segregation like 883 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: oh we stuck together, Oh no, this is all so 884 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: you cannot negate the lot of people were forced together. 885 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 886 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: You talk about the sixties, this, don't get don't talk 887 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 1: about the nice things you got, you get. You cannot 888 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: negate Nixon's role. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna 889 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: say this, he turns more than me black. He turns 890 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: more than me black. But now he don't believe me 891 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: like I can live it right now. Hear what you're 892 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: saying now, chairman. 893 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, the the lines have been drawn, and and to 894 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 7: your points, it's forcing people to pick which. 895 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 5: Side they're gonna be on. 896 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 7: And for a long time, when we got comfortable, there 897 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 7: are a lot of our own people who would straddle 898 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 7: that line. And now that the lines are drawn, where 899 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 7: you're seeing the Black History Museum being attacked, when you're 900 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 7: seeing these things happen, where's so blatant you can't hide 901 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 7: behind straddling that line. And and we're even seeing it 902 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 7: with actively Black. A lot of black people who are 903 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 7: afraid to put on the brand because it said actively black. 904 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 7: They're now like, yo, I need that because whether you 905 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 7: wear this or not, your your your melanin ain't gonna 906 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 7: change you black and you're gonna you're gonna and you're 907 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 7: gonna be treated as such. 908 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 909 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 7: So if that's the case, you might as well, you know, 910 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 7: rep this gang. You know what I'm saying, Like, let 911 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 7: this be the set that you claim. You know, the 912 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 7: the the KKK, the Proud Boys, they still walking around. 913 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 7: We should have no beef with another black man while 914 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 7: these people who have taken our lives are still walking around. 915 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 7: You want to you wanna you want to run up 916 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 7: on somebody, run up on these white supremacists. You know 917 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 7: what I'm saying. And so I think that's what you're 918 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 7: saying is we're gonna see our own, who may have 919 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 7: been turned against each other, We're gonna be forced to 920 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 7: come together to turn against the real opposition. 921 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 12: Fredie, you can see someone look is miss Frederica and 922 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 12: miss the Seacool. 923 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 11: You are killing me. 924 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 6: The whole time. 925 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 14: You know, you've just been saying the names, brother, Frederica. 926 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 2: Brother. 927 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 9: The path forward for us after the Americans and people 928 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 9: of color is we've got to write our on stories. 929 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 9: You see, it's a difference in say, let's say a 930 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 9: famous fable is Native Americans on the shores of plumbous 931 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 9: rock and they see three ships come over, and the 932 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 9: guy gets off the ship and says, I discovered America 933 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 9: or whatever. The Indians didn't write those stories. It was 934 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 9: written from a European standpoint. So we've got to today 935 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 9: the path forward with us. We've got to write our 936 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 9: on stories, we've got to tell, we've got to make 937 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 9: investments and so forth. I admire what you're doing in 938 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 9: my town of Orangeburg, the town where there's two HBCUs. 939 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 9: You have established the crystal restaurants. I started to bring 940 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 9: you a crystal Hamburger by the way. Okay, well come 941 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 9: back and see see our museum. But we've got to 942 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 9: invest and become we are the world's greatest. 943 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 6: Prosumers, you know, consumers. 944 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 9: We all really move that though other than say we 945 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 9: are also producers. We make things, We manufacture things. Content 946 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 9: creation for example, or something we could do, and the 947 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 9: power we have to on podcasts such as we're doing 948 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 9: making reaching millions of people at the time. This is 949 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 9: what we've got to do in the path forward, to 950 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 9: come together and come to groups of what's happened to day. 951 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 9: And this is what if if I were Hugh and Newton. 952 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 9: I may Cecil Williams, Yes, from the small act of 953 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 9: defiance that I did. 954 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 6: But this is what we must know today to get 955 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 6: it all together. 956 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 3: Mister fred rig. 957 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 10: As a seventy three year old woman, my act of 958 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 10: revolution looks different than when I was seventeen, and so 959 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 10: all I can not All I can do. What I 960 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 10: can do, first of all, is know that revolution looks 961 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 10: like many things in the world that I live in 962 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 10: and that I create. Revolution looks like bringing people who 963 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 10: wouldn't ordinarily be together in the same room together. People 964 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 10: who wouldn't never embrace this Black Panther Party not only history, 965 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 10: but be proud of it, are now proud of it. 966 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 10: As a result of the work that we've done. There 967 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 10: are organizations that asked me to speak, that visit our museum. 968 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 10: As Lanny said earlier, who would never I'm talking about 969 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,959 Speaker 10: black people who would never have embraced his history before 970 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 10: out of fear. But because we talk about heightening the contradiction, 971 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 10: they are now forced forced to embrace this history. And 972 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 10: so I can't speak to the broader what revolutionary, what 973 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 10: revolution looks like, but I can do my work to 974 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 10: make sure that this history is available. So that people 975 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 10: learn about our victories and our mistakes. One of the 976 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 10: things we talk about is for young revolutionaries today to 977 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 10: make sure that they address their own mental, spiritual, and 978 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 10: physical health. That you cannot be impactful and effective if 979 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 10: you are broken inside, if you're not whole. And that's 980 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 10: one thing that I mean, we were fighting for our 981 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 10: lives every day. We didn't have the luxury to meditate 982 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 10: like this woman did or even know the importance of 983 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 10: so as a result, you have a lot of wounded 984 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 10: comrades who have not who didn't have the luxury of 985 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 10: taking care of themselves, have trauma that was never addressed. 986 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 10: So that's what at the museum and the doctor Huey P. 987 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 10: Newton's Foundation just celebrated thirty years this month of existence, 988 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 10: and at this museum, thank you. We we address all 989 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 10: of the needs, the physical and emotional needs. We have meditation, 990 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 10: we have sound baths, we have I mean, this month 991 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 10: we're just full of full of activities so that we 992 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 10: can keep ourselves healthy while we fight this war. 993 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 3: I'm glad you said I could always say. 994 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 8: I feel like our generation is the first generation that 995 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 8: has the luxury of healing. 996 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, all, thank god, Thank God, we were somebody yesterday, 997 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 13: like even a luxury to just kind of like take 998 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 13: the time to educate yourself, like stop like and just 999 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 13: watch something or learn something. A lot of times people 1000 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 13: didn't have that, Like you literally had to fight every 1001 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 13: minute of your life just to be okay. 1002 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 10: Twenty four hours a day. We didn't just check in 1003 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 10: and punch of time clock and we didn't get paid. 1004 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 10: So it's completely volunteer and we live collectively. And at 1005 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 10: night you were on watch to make sure that the 1006 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 10: police did not didn't shoot up where you were living. 1007 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 10: So this was I mean real life for a revolutionary 1008 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 10: at that time, and so we didn't have the luxury 1009 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 10: to even talk about recreation or taking care of ourselves. 1010 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,359 Speaker 10: I think when I met Erica, when Erica Huggins, when 1011 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 10: she came home from prison, she was the first person 1012 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 10: I knew in the party who would meditate, and she 1013 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 10: taught She brought Hughey to that practice where he started 1014 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 10: to meditate and to embrace this whole spiritual aspect of revolution. 1015 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 10: We can't be effective if we're not taking. 1016 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:45,720 Speaker 11: Care of ourselves. 1017 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 3: Can I ask? What was Huey P. Newton's vision for 1018 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 3: freedom beyond revolution? Like what did peace look like to him? 1019 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 10: Piece I think was the absence of any fear, the 1020 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 10: absence of to live life without fear of gosh, it's 1021 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 10: a question that I never asked him. I don't know 1022 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 10: that he ever attained I don't know. I know that 1023 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 10: he didn't never attain himself in his own life. But 1024 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 10: I think maybe peace was the absence of feeling fear 1025 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 10: about being black, you know, just to to feel to 1026 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 10: know that your children were not subject to the same 1027 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 10: things that he was, that our grandchildren could could live 1028 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 10: a life. 1029 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 11: I don't know. 1030 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 10: It's so hard to visualize because I've never had. 1031 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 7: It, and we and we've been so we've been so conditioned, 1032 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 7: and you know, when you just said that, it sparked 1033 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 7: you know, I want to make sure I recognize her, 1034 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 7: the black woman behind actively black. He's here, Beyonca Winslow. 1035 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 7: I could not do this without her. But we're getting 1036 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 7: ready to welcome our first child into this world. Thank you, 1037 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 7: Thank you. I got a son on the way. There's 1038 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 7: there's greatness in his DNA. But when you said that, 1039 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 7: one of the things that I started thinking about was 1040 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 7: I gotta have conversations with him about when the police 1041 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 7: get behind you. This is how you gotta react that 1042 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 7: that fear that we don't even realize is embedded because 1043 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 7: we've had to deal with it for so long, the 1044 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 7: things that that we have to prepare for that other 1045 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 7: people who are not black, they don't have to think 1046 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 7: about those things. So when you say that peace is 1047 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 7: like the absence of fear, that was that really struck 1048 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 7: me because it's been heavy on my mind the world 1049 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 7: that my son is getting ready to answer. 1050 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 10: It's true. I mean I wore out my carpet when 1051 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 10: my son got his driver's license, in particular because I 1052 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 10: wasn't afraid that he would get an accident. I was 1053 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 10: afraid that he would be killed by the police. And 1054 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 10: I don't you know, that's not something that everybody has. 1055 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 10: White folks don't grow up thinking that they're gonna have 1056 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 10: to have that talk with their kids. But that's in 1057 00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,280 Speaker 10: our DNA. That's that's reproductive survival success. 1058 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 11: To make sure that our kids know the real truth. 1059 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 10: That's a revolutionary Yet, to have to prepare your kid 1060 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 10: to live, I want to. I want my grandchildren not 1061 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 10: to have to prepare their sons and daughters in the 1062 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,720 Speaker 10: same way I had to prepare their dad. 1063 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 4: Well, we appreciate you for joining us. How can people 1064 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 4: pick up some of your clothesline and. 1065 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 7: Actively black dot com. You can find us on all 1066 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 7: social networks Actively Black. What you see here is the 1067 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 7: result of the tribe of so many black people supporting 1068 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 7: Actively Black. That fashion show. We didn't have any major 1069 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 7: sponsors who funded it. We had to come out of pocket. 1070 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,919 Speaker 7: We had to come out of what was generated because 1071 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 7: people supported the brand. And that's the importance of buying 1072 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 7: Black owned. That's why it's important to buy Black owned. 1073 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 7: It's not just another T shirt, it's not just another hoodie. 1074 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 7: It allows us to reinvest back into our communities. It 1075 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 7: allows us as actively Black to support these living legends. 1076 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 7: I just got to say this one last thing because 1077 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 7: it's what inspired me to reach out to these living legends. 1078 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 7: I read a story that Rosa Parks was facing eviction 1079 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 7: in the later part of her life, and that pissed 1080 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 7: me off because how can somebody who made so many 1081 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 7: sacrifices for us, all the people who made money off 1082 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 7: of the movement, how could nobody have been taken care 1083 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 7: of her? 1084 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 1085 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 7: And when I read that story, I was like, who 1086 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 7: can I find who's still living that we can support. 1087 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 7: And so the first people I reached out to were 1088 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,760 Speaker 7: John Carlos and Tommy Smith, famous for that nineteen sixty 1089 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 7: eight photo at the Olympics, and that was our actual 1090 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 7: first collaboration. And I did it because I was able 1091 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 7: to sell this product and cut them a check. 1092 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 1093 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 7: We got to take care of the ones who paved 1094 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 7: the way for us so that we can continue. So 1095 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 7: that's why I champion buying black owns so much. Have 1096 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 7: some grace for black founders. We get less than zero 1097 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 7: point three percent of all venture capital investment. We are 1098 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 7: building from underneath the ground. When you look at skyscrapers, 1099 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 7: they dig one hundred and twenty meters deep in the 1100 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 7: ground before they start building upwards. A lot of times 1101 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 7: our own people give up on us before we've even 1102 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,760 Speaker 7: cracked the surface. We are building from underneath the ground. 1103 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 7: We need y'all support so that we can actually build 1104 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 7: the skyscraper so you can see that one day. You know, 1105 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,439 Speaker 7: there's no reason why we shouldn't have our own Nike. 1106 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 7: That's what actively black is. When we build this multi 1107 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 7: billion dollar brand, it's not for my personal wealth. It's 1108 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 7: for us to uplift our people actively Black dot com. 1109 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 8: Hell I want, I want, I want a brother, sister, Frederica, 1110 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 8: give them the museum websites. 1111 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, some people can donate. 1112 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 6: Well, you can go to Cecil Williams Music. 1113 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, South Carolina Civil Rights Museum. But we also 1114 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,240 Speaker 9: have a way of like PayPal and the email address 1115 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 9: there and several other ways. But we're easily find We're 1116 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 9: again in the college town of Orange, big South Carolina, 1117 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 9: and we need your supporter, even dollars. One dollar helps, 1118 00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 9: So please support us as that's right. 1119 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 7: If you part guests, I want to make sure you 1120 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 7: get this and then and then so so Fridie could 1121 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 7: close us out, make sure you got that. 1122 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 5: What's that? 1123 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 10: What's the museum Black the Black Panther Party Museum on. 1124 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 3: We'll Fredrika, he just gave it to me. 1125 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 11: That's all I said. Was on Instagram. 1126 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 10: Is at the Black Panther Party Museum and the doctor 1127 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 10: Huey P. Newton Foundation celebrating thirty years this year. Please 1128 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 10: come visit us in Oakland, California, Black Panther Party Museum. 1129 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 10: We're open, I mean we're and we're packed. So this 1130 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 10: month celebrates the Black Panther Party History Month and we're 1131 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 10: full of celebrations, so please visit us there. 1132 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: Thank you, okay uh. Also I'm thank you for having 1133 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: us here. Finsfide Saluta our fellow Paltlis Clinch fist salut 1134 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: is actively Black the Civil fourth International Revolutionary Day come 1135 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: to Chicago. Also the Hampton House dot org. We get 1136 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: programs going to child homem Chamber of Friend Hampton maybe 1137 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: Illinois again Hampton House dot org. On the close out 1138 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 1: to this quo back minutes to doctor U. E. P. 1139 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 1: Newton pictures were for a thousand words, but action and supreme. 1140 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 2: Way. 1141 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 6: This is a quality product that this brother. 1142 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 9: One of the things that impressed me, like I've had 1143 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 9: many few and thank got so much for or something. Well, 1144 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 9: when I first felt the quality of the materials and 1145 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 9: what he was doing, that convinced me that this was 1146 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 9: the right brothers the sport. So it equals anything that's 1147 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 9: out there, you know, all the apparel that he is 1148 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 9: making now and all the things that he does, he 1149 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 9: deal he works at the top of the line, first class. 1150 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 3: Absolutely right. 1151 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's the Breakfast Club. 1152 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 4: Good morning, Thank you guys, Thank you so much. 1153 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 7: Every day a week ago, clicks up the breakfast Club'll done.