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Speaker 1: Keep getting better. We are officially one week away Lance,

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Speaker 1: in the start of the twenty twenty five NFL season.

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Speaker 1: I am pumped, I am psyched. We have Eagles and

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Speaker 1: Giant fans should be very interested in, and then three

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Speaker 1: days later you get Giants and Commanders. Now, just ten

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Speaker 1: days from today, opening the year one o'clock down in DC,

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Speaker 1: we're ultimately seeing now what all these rosters are going

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Speaker 1: the most part. The Cowboys still have some questions about

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, which we don't have any new information as

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Speaker 1: of today. We'll track that for you obviously, But we're

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Speaker 1: of the summer and we are ready for some football. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not necessarily good that this is also coming to

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Speaker 1: Doing and stirring the pot. Well, he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: All over them. Absolutely anything else you want to bring

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Speaker 3: To our wins draft Yet no I mean, the only

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Speaker 3: Well, and the two guys that I thought were like

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Speaker 1: Now, is that someone will be elevated off the probably

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Speaker 3: But if I'm a quarterback, I'm a backup John, I'm

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Speaker 1: Him, and the system should not be that different. A

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Speaker 1: Pierson you're ready to write down? The team's here? All right? One, Pierson,

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Speaker 1: Story No, absolutely not. So we're each picking seven teams.

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Speaker 1: You can call it you want me to call it, okay?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that I'm not gonna pick the obvious

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Speaker 3: So you did not select the Kansas City Chiefs, which

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think the AFC West is a

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Speaker 3: all time high, John compared to where we've seen it

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Speaker 3: that's a team to watch. I don't know if they're

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Speaker 3: do you bet against Kansas City? Is this going to

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I added for dramatic effects, So thank you

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Speaker 3: No, it's a good selection, and it's hard to bet

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Speaker 3: AFC West. I really like the Chargers again, John, I

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So the point is, if there's any team that could

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Speaker 1: Chargers as my second choice. All right, I have to

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, and Vic Fangio makes me feel confident

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Speaker 3: But I think Fangio, who's got an excellent track record.

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Speaker 1: That was my thought process.

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Speaker 3: You're up, Yeah, I'm gonna stay in the NFC with you, okay,

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Speaker 1: This is a very deep team. I'm a little bit

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Speaker 1: go with the La Rams.

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Speaker 3: and even compete for the number one seed is very feasible.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I'm now the signed between two NFC

436
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Speaker 1: North teams, and I'm not gonna pick the one I

437
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Speaker 1: think most people would pick. I'm gonna go with the

438
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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Okay, they have been again a model

439
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Speaker 1: of consistency. I think you look at their roster, they

440
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: are very deep and they don't have holes. Now, I'm

441
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Speaker 1: not sure they have some of those star players some

442
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Speaker 1: of these other teams have, but they're well coached. Jordan

443
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 1: loves a good quarterback. Josh Jacobs is an excellent running back.

444
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Speaker 1: They got a billion wide receivers or offensive line is good.

445
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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of holes on defense. I'm gonna

446
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Speaker 1: go with the Green Bay Packers here just because I

447
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Speaker 1: would be shocked if they didn't finish with ten wins,

448
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Speaker 1: just because of how deep their roster is all around.

449
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Packers.

450
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Speaker 3: Matthew Golden two ye nice draft pick for them, and

451
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Speaker 3: they don't have a star receiver. He could very well emerge.

452
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Speaker 3: You just hope Jordan Love stays healthy. I know he's

453
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Speaker 3: dealing with it's on his non throwing hand, but you

454
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Speaker 3: know he was banged up last season.

455
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Speaker 1: I know that from a fantasy perspective.

456
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Speaker 3: They right the first half in the Eagles game, no,

457
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Speaker 3: and then there was another issue that chopped up.

458
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Speaker 1: It may have even been a hand issue or something,

459
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Speaker 1: but he was the first half of the year, he

460
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Speaker 1: wasn't as good.

461
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Speaker 3: You just wonder, especially with that all of a sudden

462
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Speaker 3: coming to the forefront early on. I'm gonna stay in

463
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Speaker 3: the NFC North, and I'm high on this division too.

464
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Speaker 3: I think this division has not dropped off. I mean,

465
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Speaker 3: the Lions worrying me a little bit because Ben Johnson's

466
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Speaker 3: not calling plays and as good as Dan Campbell's been.

467
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Speaker 1: And Aaron Glen's not calling correctly.

468
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Speaker 3: So it's now they promoted from within essentially, but it's

469
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Speaker 3: very different. So I'm not going with the Lions. Oh no,

470
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Speaker 3: see that was a little bit of a preview.

471
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Speaker 1: I am going with the Minnesota vice.

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy is in very good hands and he does

473
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Speaker 3: not have to have an unbelievable season because he's got

474
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Speaker 3: great weaponry around him.

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Speaker 1: I think leans the Vikings might have the second best

476
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Speaker 1: roster in the conference other than the Eagles.

477
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Speaker 3: I think you can make a very strong case. And

478
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Speaker 3: the other reason why is also Brian Floores his presence

479
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: and that defense, which also pulled a one eighty. Much

480
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Speaker 3: like the Chargers last season. As good as Sam Darnold was,

481
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Speaker 3: there was not enough credit to what Flores did on

482
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Speaker 3: the opposite side of the ball. And they've got Jonathan Allen,

483
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Speaker 3: They've got Jonathan Grenard, they got Javon Hargrave.

484
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a bad front. Keep those guys healthy.

485
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Speaker 3: I did not correct, and I didn't even talk about

486
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Speaker 3: the secondary. So I like the Vikings from a defensive

487
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Speaker 3: perspective as much as I like what they're operating with

488
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Speaker 3: on offense. And I love, by the way, On a

489
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Speaker 3: related note, the acquisition of Adam Feelin. With Jordan Addison

490
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Speaker 3: suspended for the first three games, Felan knows the offense,

491
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Speaker 3: and Felan is to use the cliche, he is like

492
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Speaker 3: a fine wine.

493
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Speaker 1: I think he gets stronger and stronger with age.

494
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Speaker 3: But because you're not asking him to get the explosive plays,

495
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Speaker 3: you're asking him to run the intermediate routes. Be an

496
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Speaker 3: insurance policy. He's the perfect vet for JJ McCarthy and

497
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: that offense. Give me the vikings now I'm making you,

498
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Speaker 3: do I get cute here?

499
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Speaker 1: Oh? Please get cute and try to use some strategy

500
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Speaker 1: based on what you just said, or do I yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to use some strategy. I'm gonna go

502
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Speaker 1: with the Hugh Houston Texans. They're in a what I

503
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: still think is probably the worst division of football in

504
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Speaker 1: the AFC South, though I do think the Colts actually

505
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: could have I think they're pretty talented. We'll see what

506
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars do with the new coaching staff, but I

507
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: think the Texans have a pretty high floor. I think

508
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: their defense is one of the best in the league.

509
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: I think it's excellent. I think CJ. Shrad's a good quarterback.

510
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: Their offensive lines scares the living daylights out of me.

511
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: Stroud took a step back last season. I agree as

512
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: a result, but I think that defense gives me confidence,

513
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Speaker 1: especially in that division, that the Texans are going to

514
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Speaker 1: get the double digit wins again. So I'm gonna go

515
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Speaker 1: to Houston Texans. Interesting.

516
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Speaker 3: See, that's a division that I could see some movement

517
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 3: this year because there is no juggernaut. As good as

518
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: Houston may appear on paper, there's a door for them

519
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 3: to get through. And remember Houston was a ten and

520
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 3: seventeam I know the point is we want to get

521
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Speaker 3: into the ten win territory.

522
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Speaker 1: But last year.

523
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Speaker 3: Now, if there is any division winner from last year

524
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Speaker 3: that I could see take a step back, the Texans

525
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: and the Lions would both be in the converse.

526
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Speaker 1: I should put the Bucks in that conversation too, but

527
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: the Bucks are on my list. But I think those

528
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Speaker 1: are the three division winners that I would a worry about.

529
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Speaker 3: The Bucks is fair too. It's just to me, they

530
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 3: got the best quarterback in the division. Yes, and that

531
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: goes a long way, and Todd Bowles in his defense,

532
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: but I'm worried that receiver corps.

533
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Speaker 1: They're dropping like flies before the season, even starts, so

534
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Speaker 1: it does. So they are deep. But it is concerning.

535
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Speaker 3: All right, you're up, So where do I go now

536
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Speaker 3: that you took the Houston Texans. Do I stay in

537
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: the AFC or do I go back to the NFC landscape.

538
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to the AFC and the

539
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Speaker 3: team that I'm going to go with, even though there

540
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Speaker 3: is concern about one facet of their squad, but I

541
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Speaker 3: am enamored with their offense and I think they can

542
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Speaker 3: find a way to win the clothes the Bungles the

543
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. There is too much John There's too much

544
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: firepower on the offensive side of the ball. Listen, we

545
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: don't have a magic crystal ball, and injuries could pop up,

546
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: But my goodness, if you keep Joe Burrow on the

547
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: field with that group in the running backs, can they

548
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: have trouble scoring thirty five minimum points? They have the

549
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Speaker 3: best offense, so even if the defense is atrocious again,

550
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: but hey, getting the Trey Hendrickson deal done goes a

551
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: long way, because if they didn't have him, who knows

552
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: what the projections would be. I still like that offensive firepower,

553
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Speaker 3: So sign me up for the Bengals to at least

554
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: flirt with ten wins this season. Remember, they were a

555
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Speaker 3: nine to eight team last year as bad as their

556
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Speaker 3: defense was, so I'm expecting the defense just has to

557
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 3: move centimeters to get them that extra w this year.

558
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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna go back to the NFC. I'm

559
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: going Lions. I can't let him sit there any longer.

560
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Speaker 1: The coordinator changes do scare me. We talked about them already.

561
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Speaker 1: Changes on the offensive line. But man, they're just really

562
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Speaker 1: talented and they have a tough quarterback. They have the

563
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: toughness Dan Campbell. Hutchinson's gonna be back. I think Isaac

564
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: Teslah could have a big year for them as a rookie.

565
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: They just have a really good roster. So I can't

566
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Speaker 1: let the LINSTI theyre any longer. I'm gonna go with

567
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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions.

568
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Speaker 3: Well, listen, track record matters, and Dan Campbell's done a

569
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Speaker 3: heck of a job turning that franchise around. But you know,

570
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 3: he's limited in terms of he's not a play caller.

571
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Speaker 6: Yep.

572
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Speaker 3: So even if you want to say, well, he's gonna

573
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: be very aggressive right and gophert on fourth down, they

574
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 3: still need to get in the position to allow him

575
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Speaker 3: to be aggressive and as good as that offense was. Remember,

576
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 3: and I know the defense was hit by injuries, but

577
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: we saw the true colors of that unit too, And

578
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: you just wonder if the offense takes a step back

579
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Speaker 3: and the defense is not as powerful, does that mess

580
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Speaker 3: with the dynamics of the team. I'm gonna go with

581
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Speaker 3: one of the teams we brought up a few moments ago,

582
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Speaker 3: because I'm going with the math. Okay, I think the

583
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 3: division is we so I think that helps their cause

584
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 3: to get the double digit wins. I love their quarterback.

585
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: I was very high on him coming out of the draft,

586
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 3: and I'm happy that he now found an environment that

587
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: vodes very well for him. And I think that as

588
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: long as they can give him the freedom to do

589
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: what he did in Liam Cohen's offense, and I like

590
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: the fact that they promoted from within, I'll roll the

591
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: dice with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers being the best team

592
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: in their division and giving them the best pathway to

593
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 3: get to double digit victories.

594
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: All Right, I have two teams I still like for

595
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: the win totals at the top of this and I

596
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: already have six, So I'm gonna pick my five win

597
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: team here and I'm gonna go up. Sorry, I'm gonna

598
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: go those with the Las Vegas Raiders. Okay, quarterback in

599
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: the coach Pete Carrol, Gino Smith, I think it raises

600
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: the floor a lot. And again it's a tough division.

601
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: But one's last time Pete Carroll had a bad football team.

602
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: I get worse the winsday games, right, sure? So I

603
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: mean he didn't make the playoffs year one in Seattle. Yeah,

604
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: but still track record again Pete Carroll, Jall Smith, Ashton,

605
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: gent Y rock Bowers. Lot to like on offense, good

606
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: for me? The defense that it sticks the secondary, Hey,

607
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: don't being around the book, I'm not sure I can

608
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: name a starter in their defensive secondary off the top

609
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: of my head. To be honest with you.

610
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: You'll recognize a few of the names. You will you definitely, No,

611
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can name it now. But

612
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 3: if you look at the list, there is one guy

613
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: that is a pretty one.

614
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: Jeremy chin. Oh they got Jeremy Jermy. I forgot about.

615
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 3: I forgot that is a recognizable Outside of that, I'm

616
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: with you. And then what also scares the hell out

617
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 3: of me is anybody not named Max Crosby upfront.

618
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: Yep, especially since they lost Christian Wilkins with the injury.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Tyree Wilson's a young guy, but he has

620
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: yet to so I'm nervous.

621
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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. But I'm gonna go with the

622
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Raiders as my as my five win team that has

623
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: to step it up. See.

624
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: I have another team that I even told you before

625
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: the show. You didn't take mine, so I'm very happy interest.

626
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: But now the fact that you took that team, you

627
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: can save them. Yeah, I could save them.

628
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: See.

629
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: I was gonna go maybe in that direction, but you

630
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: now did me a courtesy as opposed to challenging me.

631
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Speaker 3: So I thank you immensely from that stamp.

632
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm a very generous guy. It's the season of giving.

633
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm very magnanimous, no doubt about it. Absolutely. I'm gonna

634
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: go back to the NFC. And remember that's a big word,

635
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: pier So now they only are big words up in Boston.

636
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: I know, magnanimous. Look it up.

637
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: A big part of also the thinking when you talk

638
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: about projections and playoffs is remember the turnover rate in

639
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: the NFL is unlike any other professional sports league. You

640
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: cannot pick all the teams that made the playoffs last year. Okay,

641
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 3: if you do that, you're gonna be disappointed.

642
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 6: Correct.

643
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: I keep a list and I could bring up my document.

644
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: On average, we're talking about four to five teams minimum

645
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: over the last twenty.

646
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: Years, usually closer to six, to be honest with you.

647
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're safe with four to five.

648
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: Yes, So I kept that in mind also with my

649
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: logic and my thinking and just to review, I chose

650
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals. Okay, they were on the outside as

651
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Speaker 3: a team that did not make it. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go with another team now in the other conference. I

653
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Speaker 3: like it that did not make it, and I know

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Speaker 3: there's questions, but it's another feeling like Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I like their offense. Oh you're picking the Cowboy. I

656
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Speaker 1: am picking the Dallas cab Ah read me quite well.

657
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Speaker 1: I did well well. I mean I build it up

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Speaker 1: for you. So, I mean you said a really good offense,

659
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Speaker 1: and I think Dallas's offense will be very George Pickens

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Speaker 1: now with CD Lank, he's a monster. Last year, they

661
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Speaker 1: didn't have a true number two. Interesting DAK with an

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Speaker 1: offensive line that has questions, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: But I think the running game will improve. And remember

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Speaker 3: they go in rock bottom, so it's not asking very much. Yeah,

665
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: you're worried about Michael Parsons and you know, a new

666
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: defensive scheme and this and that and a new head coach.

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Speaker 3: But my feeling is John it's the same thing. Like

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Speaker 3: the Bengals. The offense is good enough that even if

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Speaker 3: there are mishaps and issues on the other side of

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Speaker 3: the ball, they should remain competitive and be in the mix.

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Speaker 3: So that's my logic for picking the Cowboy.

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Speaker 1: My strategy throughout this whole thing is, don't pick a

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Speaker 1: team that I think can bottom out and be really bad.

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Speaker 1: You know what team has never bottom out and is

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Speaker 1: really bad. I know which team you're going Pittsburgh. That

676
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: was gonna be my next TV and it was either

677
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Speaker 1: them and look this is my last pick. It was

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Speaker 1: them of the Broncos, though those are the last two

679
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Speaker 1: teams I had on my list. The Steelers are just

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Speaker 1: so consistent. I don't know how much Aaron Rodgers has left.

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Speaker 1: He drives me nuts. But it's Mike Tomlin. It's Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, just like Andy Reid, go ahead and bet

683
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: against Mike Tomlin and Pete Carroll Carroll correct, those three

684
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Speaker 3: don't touch it.

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Speaker 1: Or Jim Harbaugh to your point with yeah Rogers, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's seven teams and then you have the team with

687
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Speaker 1: fivelands or less, so it's eight teams total.

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Speaker 2: Free.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going Pittsburgh Steelers because they never won fewer

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Speaker 1: than nine games, and I don't want a team that

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Speaker 1: bottoms out. So that's where I'm going.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was gonna be my safety valley in the

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Speaker 3: event that I wanted to go in that direction. I'm

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Speaker 3: just I'm nervous again about a Aaron Rodgers holding up

695
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Speaker 3: and be just the caliber of that division.

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Speaker 1: I get it in Cleveland is a tough out, which

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Speaker 1: is not necessarily We'll see about that. I know Joe

698
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Flacco though.

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Speaker 3: If Flacco can hold up, I like their offense in

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Speaker 3: his hands a lot more than any of the others,

701
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Speaker 3: especially that young mix that they brought in with Dylan

702
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Speaker 3: Gabriel and Shador Sanders. So now my pick now is

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Speaker 3: the five win team, right? Or do I have extra films?

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Speaker 3: Believe I'm not necessarily keeping track of the volume. I guess,

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Speaker 3: and I guess which team bears No, that was the

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Speaker 3: other I was thinking about interesting. It was basically the

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Speaker 3: Raiders were third. If we worked our way up, the

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Speaker 3: Bears were right there. But I'm going with the division

709
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Speaker 3: that we talked about earlier, where I think the pathway.

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Speaker 1: No think about the other Saints. No, oh you really

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Speaker 1: have lost? What do you got? I'm going with the

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because I think that that division has fluctuation. And

714
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Speaker 3: here's my selling point on Jacksonville. I had the wrong South, correct,

715
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Speaker 3: had the wrong South. Yeah, geography was a little bit off.

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen has a really good track with quarterbacks, okay,

717
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Speaker 3: whether he's the QB coach, remember he was with McVeigh

718
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Speaker 3: and the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Heck, he was at Kentucky in college and did a

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Speaker 1: good job.

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Speaker 3: I like the marriage of Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: I think this could be a real nice bounce back

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Speaker 3: emergent season.

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Speaker 1: It could be for Trevor.

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Speaker 3: I think it's got ridden all over it from that perspective. Yeah,

726
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: their defense was troubling last season, but I think that

727
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Speaker 3: with a new voice and if the offense takes pressure

728
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Speaker 3: off of that side of the ball, Travis Hunter, I

729
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Speaker 3: don't think they're gonna run him into the ground. I

730
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Speaker 3: think they're gonna use him in a case by case

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Speaker 3: basis on both sides, but they're gonna be smart about it.

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Speaker 3: And I think Trevor Lawrence has some nice weapons around

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Speaker 3: him that Liam Cohen will structure the offense just like

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Speaker 3: he did with Baker. And it wasn't as if Baker

735
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Speaker 3: had by the way red carpet trumant last season, Chris Godwin,

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Speaker 3: you know, Evans was out of the lineup tight ends

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Speaker 3: and Baker had a tremendous statistical see right, So why

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Speaker 3: can't I now project that with Trevor Lawrence knowing that

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Speaker 3: the Texans could take a step back. Tennessee is young

740
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Speaker 3: with cam Ward Indianapolis quarterback quarterback and Shane Steichen and

741
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Speaker 3: his team is hovered around five hundred and maybe he

742
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: tries to be very aggressive because Jimmersay's daughter now is

743
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Speaker 3: taking over and you know, she may want to go

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Speaker 3: in a different direction.

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Speaker 1: A lot of pressure on him.

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen could be one of those first year coaches

747
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Speaker 3: that has that wow factor in his favor four and

748
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Speaker 3: thirteen last season. You're heard it here at one o

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Speaker 3: five pm Eastern on August twenty eighth, as the guy

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Speaker 3: to the right of me. Chuckles. Okay, watch out for

751
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars. I called the Chargers last season. Maybe

752
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: not in the same boat, but Harbon new coach. Jacksonville

753
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: is my first year coaching candidate. Team that is going

754
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Speaker 3: to be knocking on the door and busting through that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Pearson, DEBI a favor. Lance is hosting. I

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Speaker 1: believe with me on let's see which date is. No,

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Speaker 1: you're actually a maddelin So the second week give January.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure I'm hosting with Lance. And

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Speaker 1: let's just make sure, Pearson, we have that Jacksonville wear

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Speaker 1: the badge regardless. Ready to go. At the end of

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Speaker 1: the show, Pierson, do you want to pick your your You.

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Speaker 2: Have any teams?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ye would be the last year peers in the

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Speaker 1: teams and by there are some pretty good teams left.

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Speaker 5: Actually no one picked the Broncos, which surprised or the

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Speaker 5: Commanders for the command.

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Speaker 1: And the title game last year.

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Speaker 3: Well, but you know what the other thing, Peerson, after

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Speaker 3: you go, I want to compare how many teams we

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Speaker 3: picked that didn't make the playoffs last year? All my

771
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Speaker 3: team were in So okay, because the teams you just

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Speaker 3: threw out that no one picked other than San Francisco, Denver,

773
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Speaker 3: and Washington were in.

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Speaker 1: So I'm accounting for some teams too. Did you pick

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Speaker 1: the Bucks?

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, you know the Bucks were in, But remember

777
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: the Cowboys and the Bengals, I picked at least that

778
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: were not in the mix, and Jacksonville, I'm picking they

779
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: were not in the mix. So I'm staying within that logic.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm just curious how that Pearson?

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Speaker 1: What do you got? Who do you got?

782
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 5: I got Broncos, Niners, see how Commanders, Bears, Falcons, Dolphins,

783
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Speaker 5: and then Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty good. I like that group. But

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Speaker 1: he really went outside the box.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you pretty much picked more than about seventy

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Speaker 3: percent of those teams.

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Speaker 1: Did I make the playoffs? Light teams that are left?

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Speaker 1: I thought? Okay, I'm sorry, So I'm mistake. I thought

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Speaker 1: you were gonna pick from the whole all right for

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Speaker 1: the rest.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I misread that. So I was gonna give him

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Speaker 3: credit for really being bold.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I take that back. Pearson was not as bold as

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Speaker 3: I thought he was. Okay, Pearson jumped into the pool

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00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: that was left. Okay, I miss ready correct.

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Speaker 5: Have the easiest schedule. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the calls, because certainly that

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Speaker 3: always plays out according to play Affeers three the schedule

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Speaker 3: from last season.

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Speaker 1: Boy, so reliable. Take that to the bank. Three nine

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Speaker 1: four five one three real quick. Giants Foundage mostly five

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Speaker 1: K racing kids were unpresented by Quest Sunday, October twenty six,

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Speaker 1: nine am met Life Stadium. That proceeds will benefit the

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Speaker 1: Giants Foundation. Uh, you get a T shirt after the race.

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Speaker 1: There's a DJ Giants Legends Giants dot Com slash five

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Speaker 1: kid to registered. The Giants Foundation is a five oh

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Speaker 1: one C three nonprofit corporation. I think we got like

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Speaker 1: apparently the fans have been calling for Pearson on social media,

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Speaker 1: and I think the fact that he's now spoken on

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: the show, I think we should double our listenership. Would

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00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: would would be my feeling? Yeah, from what two to three?

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Speaker 1: Two to four? I should say if I do the

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Speaker 1: math right, Jeffery ryle Island wanted to know where where

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00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 1: Pearson's been.

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Speaker 5: You got me for the next two weeks, so yes, well.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you're also here. Yeah, I was gonna.

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Speaker 5: Say Thursdays on Friday is the only time I'm doing

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Speaker 5: the show now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, gotcha. But his presence is still across the boardmini present.

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Speaker 1: Pearson's big timing us now he is quote unquote better

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00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: things to do than slum it with us in here. Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was not denying it either. All right, he's

825
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 3: not a man of the people anymore.

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Speaker 1: No he is. No, he's starting, No, definitely not. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's taking the anti social route. Only the Boston people.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Kevin and North Carolina. He

829
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: will lead us off Kevin. What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Pal?

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Speaker 7: Hey guys, you guys during today, We're good.

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Speaker 1: What do you got hey?

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Speaker 8: Two quick questions. One question is I keep reading that

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Speaker 8: Theo Johnson has still not been practicing, and you know

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Speaker 8: the Giants seven disclose that injury. You guys know what's

836
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 8: going on with that, and you know any concerns for

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Speaker 8: his availability to start the season.

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Speaker 1: I do not know what his injury is. Brian Dable

839
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Speaker 1: has been very mum about that, and he's just said

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00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: today that he is not practicing and he is getting better,

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Speaker 1: and he left it at that. So until we see

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Speaker 1: an injury report next Wednesday, when they have to disclose

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Speaker 1: what the injury is. I'm not sure we're gonna know

844
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Speaker 1: what it is Kevin, so hopefully he'll be good to go.

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Speaker 1: I never got the impression that it was something super

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Speaker 1: duper serious, but I think if it was, you would

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Speaker 1: have seen him get placed on IR to start the

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Speaker 1: year if they thought it would be multiple weeks. They haven't,

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Speaker 1: so I think that gives you a sign that you

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Speaker 1: would hope he r here to go week one.

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Speaker 3: But and the other thing that I would add is

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Speaker 3: a transaction in a tight end would be another thing

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Speaker 3: to monitor.

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00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: Watch now that could still have four though they did

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Speaker 1: keep four true.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is, if you feel that maybe

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Speaker 3: it could be a multi week injury of something, maybe

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Speaker 3: you'd want to even add somebody the practice squad or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It may be something to keep in mind.

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Speaker 3: The fact that that hasn't necessarily happened perhaps bodes well

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Speaker 3: for him. But just to piggyback off of John's point,

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Speaker 3: the exact wording that Dave's used, and it's a phrase

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Speaker 3: that he's used pretty much all throughout training camp. The

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Speaker 3: guys that are going to practice will be out there

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Speaker 3: and the guys that won't. But he wasn't revealing and

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Speaker 3: going through the list. And remember the NFL teams are

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Speaker 3: not obligated to speak of injuries until early next week

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Speaker 3: when injury reports have to come out, at least for

869
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: the bulk of the teams. Cowboys and Eagles in a

870
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: little bit different vote because they play on Thursday, So

871
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 3: they are not going to reveal the details of anything.

872
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: But until we see some practice report of some sort,

873
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: some injury report, or there's a move with a tight end,

874
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: I would not read into anything that could be alarming,

875
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 3: at least at this stage.

876
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Speaker 1: Yes, what else you got, Kevin?

877
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

878
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 8: Perfect? And then I always wanted to ask, you know,

879
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 8: with Tyler Nubin and Javana Holland, who do you think

880
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 8: would be kind of, you know, that strong safety slash

881
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 8: free safety. How do you think we'll kind of see

882
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 8: those two on the field in terms of having those

883
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 8: roles or do you think we'll kind of get a

884
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 8: mix of both with you know, one playing free, one

885
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 8: playing strong.

886
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: Appreciate the call Kevin, good stuff. I believe they are

887
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: going to be very interchangeable where depending on the play,

888
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: you can move either guy in either spot. I think

889
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: they trust either guy in either spot. And I think

890
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: that's important if you want to be able to disguise

891
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: in the back end of the secondary, which I think

892
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: Shane Bone's going to try to do a lot this year.

893
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: And to have two interchangeable safeties, I think makes that

894
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: more possible, makes that, you know, a possibility when last year,

895
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: and I think with all the youth back there, you

896
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: can't really do a lot of the fancy disguise stuff

897
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: post snap. So I think generally Nubit is probably more

898
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: apt to be around the line of scrimmage, and Howland's

899
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: probably more apt to be deep. But I think you're

900
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: gonna see both guys in both spots all the time.

901
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: I think Holland's also comfortable being moved around based on

902
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: what he did in Miami. But remember the signature play

903
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: in his career was the interception at MetLife Stadium against

904
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: the Jets that he caught on a hail Mary play

905
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: and then returned it for a touchdown. So you know

906
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: he's got the hands and he has the depth. And

907
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: if you go back to even things that Holland had mentioned,

908
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: because he was asked about the green helmet and he said, listen,

909
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: when I'm playing back, I want to see the field.

910
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't have the time to come up and communicate

911
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: with the guys at the line of scrimmage. Not to

912
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: say that he wouldn't be brought up, John, but to

913
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: your point, I think when you connect those dots, it's

914
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: highly likely that Nubin is much more around the line

915
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: of scrimmage consistently than Holland, who I see is more

916
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: of the deep center fielder threat. Let's go to Mark

917
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: and Miami. He's on next day, Mark, what's going on?

918
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: Man?

919
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 6: I was pretty upset that McLaren signed. I was hoping

920
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 6: he'd be in the same situation as Parsons. I'm wondering

921
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 6: if you think they might use abdul Katter as a spy,

922
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 6: because he's done that in the past and other teams

923
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 6: have done that in the past with him.

924
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: You usually don't use a pass rusher as a spy.

925
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: That's not common, but Abdul Clutter is a special athlete,

926
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: so I do think he could do it if you

927
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: asked him to. My thought would be as a switch up.

928
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if you saw that at

929
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: times in the Commander's game, but especially given Jayden and

930
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: Daniel's ability to run yeah, but I don't think that

931
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: would be his primary responsibility and to take him out

932
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: of the role of someone that you want getting upfield

933
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: and getting after the quarterback in the pocket. So I

934
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: think Mark, when you see him lined up as a

935
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: stand up rusher in the middle of the line, he'll

936
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: mostly come after the quarterback. But if at times you

937
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: want to switch things up and you let him hover there,

938
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: I could that being an option.

939
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: And I also think it depends on the down and

940
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: distances too. You know that's going to dictate whether or

941
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: not they'd have the luxury to even utilize him in

942
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: multiple roles, specifically a spy, and I can see ol

943
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: Kerken in that role too, to be honest with you,

944
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: without a doubt, given his athleticism, and that, to me,

945
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: I think would be more of a comfort.

946
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing.

947
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: As much versatility as Carter showed at Penn State, this

948
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: is also going to be his first ever NFL regular

949
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: season game, how much do you want to toy with

950
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: him right out of the gates, regardless of the matchup.

951
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: I think Shane Bowen needs to ask himself that. So

952
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: that's the other thing to take the consideration. And I

953
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: know you made the comment about you wanted Terry McLaurin

954
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: in the contractual issue to play out my philosophy in general,

955
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: and I say this to all fans, is I think

956
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: you want to go up against the team with all

957
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: of the people at their disposal, because that only opens

958
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: the door for excuses if certain big weaponry are not available.

959
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: So that's just how I look at it for any

960
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: NFL matchup, regardless of whether or not there's fans them involved.

961
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 6: I agree in that in theory, but I don't agree

962
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 6: with that for the first game of a new season

963
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 6: with a new quarterback and a lot of new moving parts.

964
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 6: And honestly, I was thinking maybe that he would go

965
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 6: in instead of fad Into. You know, he's got a

966
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: ton of experience at inside linebacker, and you know that

967
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 6: he could be more of a spot from that place,

968
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 6: and not talking about taking somebody off the front line

969
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 6: in certain obviously we're talking situations that warranted for down

970
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 6: and distance. But I just thought that he could be

971
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 6: the fourth guy on the field in that with Karake,

972
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 6: and that it would because he's fast enough. Unless you

973
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 6: think I'm.

974
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: Wrong, No, Mark Daniels, No, Mark, I think that's a

975
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: good question. I would say we did not see him

976
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: play as an early down off ball linebacker in training

977
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: camp a ton, right, So he hasn't really been in

978
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: that role, and I, to Lance's point, is his first

979
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: regular season game. I don't think that's a role I

980
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: would be comfortable putting him in, even though he did

981
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: it in college, when he really hasn't practiced that in

982
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: this defense over the course of the summer. So I

983
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: think again, maybe on third down when he's on the field,

984
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: you want to switch it up instead of you know,

985
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: rushing is a stand up guy behind the tackles or whatever,

986
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: and you want to drop him as a spy. Maybe there,

987
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: but I don't see that as like an early down,

988
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: full time type of role.

989
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 6: Okay, I appreciate it.

990
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: No, thanks, Mark, appreciate the call. Good stuff. All right,

991
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: let's go right to Big Edd and Maryland, Big Ed.

992
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: What's going on?

993
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: Man?

994
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: What's that?

995
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: Big John? And Big Lance?

996
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm back, so, Big Ed? What do you have the

997
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: giants like? Fifteen and two this year? What do you

998
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: got you have the fifteen and two, fourteen and three

999
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: seventy years?

1000
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 4: Oh?

1001
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, almost have a peated though, but not quite.

1002
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: I feel like this way, we scored over thirty points

1003
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 2: in each of our preseason games. We averaged that. Okay,

1004
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: So going with that good positive attitude going into this,

1005
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 2: we've finally got something that should work. Because I'm gonna

1006
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: keep this in room, I'm gonna make this reminder right now.

1007
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: So eight games out of last year we only lost

1008
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: by one possessions. We've lost the last couple of seasons

1009
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: because we didn't have a quarterback. Now we do, and

1010
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: with the complimentary defense and that third round pick Fellas,

1011
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 2: we're looking at something really good. Now. Please note, I'm

1012
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: about to tell you this. Winning the first four games,

1013
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: these phone lines are going to really blow up big.

1014
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: So I got us winning the first four Commanders, Cowboys, Chiefs,

1015
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: Chargers all.

1016
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: I put the bold prediction in the document there, Piers.

1017
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you folks on calling for

1018
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: with bold predictions tomorrow, I think tomorrow it's me and

1019
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: Datino will happily take your bold predictions and then early

1020
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: next week we'll take them to.

1021
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: Okay. So on another note, first, man, I hope you

1022
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: guys are coming down for this first game. I am

1023
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: to that effect.

1024
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Paul Tatino will be down there pre impost happens back

1025
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: up here in New York. So I will not be there.

1026
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: Paulatino will be there. Pearson are you? Are you going

1027
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: to Washington? Pierce is not going to be there.

1028
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: Other boy and Lance you doing something else right?

1029
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? I will not be there.

1030
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, So.

1031
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: Not not excited about seeing Paul Tatino. Yeah, energy skyrocketing

1032
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: towards the other only oh boy, that's a problem. All right,

1033
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't rock his boat as much. Big appreciate it

1034
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: to call my friend. Yeah. Always good to hear from you, buddy,

1035
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Giants to the podcast, go check

1036
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Speaker 1: it out. We got a bunch of really good episodes

1037
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: up there right now. The podcast is technically called The

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Speaker 1: Giants Podcast network feed. Go check it out, Subscribe Giants

1039
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,319
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1040
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Speaker 1: A Joey Epstein, who's a really good national NFL reporter

1041
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Speaker 1: for Yahoo Sports, shoots here. Last week we talk a

1042
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: little bit about the Giants. We also do a little

1043
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: bit of an NFL season preview Albert Breers coming up

1044
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: later in the week. Already recorded Kevin Burkhardt, who's calling

1045
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: the Giants Commanders game in week one that'll go up

1046
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: next week. Mark Melussis from the Fan will be going

1047
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: up at some point. Pearson's burned the Midnight Oil on

1048
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: all these things, doing a great job getting them up.

1049
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: And we have Draft Season up too, so you guys

1050
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: can check that out. Our first two episodes this year

1051
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman on the Freaks List and then Drew Fabianich,

1052
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: who is the new executive director of the now Pinini

1053
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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. So two really good interviews up on Draft Season.

1054
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: You can find that on the main podcast feed. Also,

1055
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: Draft Season has his own feet as well, so go

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1057
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,439
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1058
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: Wilson and Rocks, Hello Wilson, Hey, my two buddy.

1059
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 4: Listen Jenny Lands. Every time I see you guys together,

1060
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 4: it's I gotta get a niche man, I said, I

1061
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: gotta call him.

1062
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: It's like a rash and it spreads like wildfire, chicken pox, mumps.

1063
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 7: Maybe real quick though, before I start.

1064
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 4: Whatever is in that water in South Carolina where Big

1065
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 4: edits from, I don't know how I never will get

1066
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: my hands on it, because that is crazy.

1067
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: Big Ed is big Ed is an eternal optimist without

1068
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: a doubt, and we appreciate that. Yeah, it's all.

1069
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: Positive with the complete of me.

1070
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, Well, that's why I guess you know, it's

1071
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: only fair for you to come on to balance things

1072
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: out because true, I mean, remember, this is the whole

1073
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 3: purpose of the show to be as balanced as possible

1074
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: with the opposite ends of the spectrum.

1075
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I bring I bring balance to the show. I

1076
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 4: bring some you know what so a phrase.

1077
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: Never uttered by anybody viewing, but go ahead, yes, So basically,

1078
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: Wilson's like Anakin Skywalker bringing balance to the force instead

1079
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: of bringing out Yeah, bringing balance to the program. I

1080
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: got you.

1081
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: Let me let me make that and the real quick though,

1082
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 4: this is mostly for land but honored and you can

1083
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: you can chime in real quick before before you before

1084
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 4: you said, you know, the Indianapolis Colts right have the

1085
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 4: best roster in that division, hands down, right.

1086
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with that. I mean, that's your opinion.

1087
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: I think that I think the Texans certainly have the

1088
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: best defensive roster in the division. I don't think that's

1089
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: any doubt.

1090
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: Show me on the well, just out of curiosity, why

1091
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: do you feel why do you feel the Colts have

1092
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: the best roster?

1093
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity? What is what?

1094
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: What are you sold on with respect in they Why

1095
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: do you think they have the best roster?

1096
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 4: Or listen, if Daniel plays the way that the way

1097
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 4: the way that he plays to his strengths, and I

1098
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 4: don't want to get into you know, the head coach

1099
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 4: and the giants. You know that's that's that's what the bridge.

1100
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do it.

1101
00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: If if.

1102
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 4: This guy supposed is a good head coach, the guy

1103
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: weapons all over the offensive line. It's the best offensive

1104
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 4: Blane Daniel Jones had his whole career. He doesn't. He

1105
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 4: has to play within the offense in that division. LANs,

1106
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: the Colts are a nine win team right now if

1107
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: the boll bouncer is their way, either a ten or

1108
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 4: eleven win team. I'm telling you that right now. Like

1109
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 4: you said the Jaguars today whatever what is it, August

1110
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: twenty eighth, I'm telling you that right now.

1111
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: All right, both, it's not crazy for the Colts to

1112
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: be in the mix. I actually like the Colts offensive roster.

1113
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: I think their offensive roster is pretty good. I don't

1114
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: love their secondary on defense, No, I need to do.

1115
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: I like the receivers. They got a solid offensive line

1116
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: of Johnathan Taylers, and their.

1117
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 3: Pass rush too, I think is a little bit suspect

1118
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 3: as well. I mean, you know, Quiddy pays a nice player,

1119
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: and Buckner provides pressure underneath. I just don't see an

1120
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: overwhelming amount of depth on that team, which concerns me.

1121
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: And they've got playmakers around the quarterback. But some of

1122
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 3: these receivers have not been able to stay healthy too,

1123
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: like Downs was banged up last year. Alec Pearce is

1124
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: a hit or missreceiver. He's a deep guy, but it

1125
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 3: depends on the targets that you get him. And you know,

1126
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: then there's obviously Michael Pim.

1127
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a personal challenge here. I think

1128
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: we have a little Colts versus Charge versus Jaguars here.

1129
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: I like it.

1130
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but listen, but I want I want well listen.

1131
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 4: I think the Colts I went in the division, but

1132
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 4: Lance said, you know you picked.

1133
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see you're both gonna be wrong. It's gonna

1134
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: be the Texas.

1135
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: I don't know why theys A fighting wind up Tennessee

1136
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: with the division probably right, well, I didn't know, but

1137
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: see The reason why it seems you're so invested in

1138
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: the Colts is because if Daniel Jones's presence, well, so

1139
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: you just can't get away from Wilson loves Daniel Jones,

1140
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: so you know he's not going to give up.

1141
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 4: Listen, you know that, you know that I think Daniel

1142
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 4: had Daniel Listen, Dunny. I just didn't want to give

1143
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 4: up on a guy that's six five to two thirty five,

1144
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: that that can make every throw it and runs like Daniel.

1145
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 4: But that's forget about that.

1146
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 6: There is a new season.

1147
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: We got Russell Wilson. I don't want to be negative anymore.

1148
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: But welcome to Colt the way.

1149
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 7: Land.

1150
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 4: This is for you because every I.

1151
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: Thought the previous one was for me. Wow, I get

1152
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: the yes. What else do you have nothing.

1153
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: To do with.

1154
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 4: Because I I for the past two seasons, I told

1155
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 4: you that the first game of the open, the opener

1156
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: for the Giants, it was the most important game. And

1157
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: every time I tell you that, you think, you tell

1158
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 4: me Wilson you're out of your mind.

1159
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: Well, and I'm going to continue to disagree, but I'll

1160
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: hear you out again.

1161
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 4: Can I explain why can I tell you forget about

1162
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: being the most important game of this season. I think

1163
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: this game is probably the most important game in the

1164
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 4: past ten years, even part even more more important than

1165
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 4: the playoff wins.

1166
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: And I tell you why.

1167
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 4: You know what happened the past two two season openers, right,

1168
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: we were last. It was a disgrace against Dallas and

1169
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 4: and and the worst part about it was that Kevin

1170
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 4: donnald set and his press conference we were the better

1171
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 4: prepared team.

1172
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: He said it.

1173
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 4: I'm not making it up, he said it. So the

1174
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: reason why I tell you this is the most important

1175
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 4: game is because we cannot, under any circumstance go to

1176
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 4: Washington get embarrassed again and then giants France like myself.

1177
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: And on Monday, I'm gonna turn my TV into to

1178
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: this show. And I have and I have to hear

1179
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 4: or that we were competitive, we play hard, wait and quit.

1180
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know what I'm

1181
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: getting at right.

1182
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: Well, Well, so I will say this in all seriousness.

1183
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: I will I love no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm

1184
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: being versarious. I look at the first two games as

1185
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: a package deal.

1186
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1187
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: I never think you should overreact to what happens in

1188
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: Week one of the NFL season, and and I've been

1189
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: consistent about this, Weird things happen in week one. Good

1190
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: teams lose, bad teams win, Strange things happen. If the

1191
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: Giants lose Week one to Washington, they rebound and win

1192
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: in Dallas in week two, and you come home for

1193
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: your home opener at one and one, you're in great shape.

1194
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: You're fine, You're in awesome shape. Now. Now, if we're

1195
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: talking oh and two coming home when you're oh and

1196
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: two in the NFC East, that's a different conversation. But

1197
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: I do think even if you come out and you

1198
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: have a dud in week one, if you can come

1199
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: out and be thousand week two, I think that eliminates

1200
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: a lot of the stink all of what happened in

1201
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: week one.

1202
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And and

1203
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 4: there's difference oh and two's and oh and twos. I

1204
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: give you that too, but but there.

1205
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: Reason is a difference between oh and two's and oh

1206
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: and two.

1207
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 4: Say. I'm saying, if you if you lose on the

1208
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 4: last minute field goal, okay, you'll live with it.

1209
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: So you're talking about the context in which you go

1210
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: oh and two is what you're referring to.

1211
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: It within the content. But it will it will make,

1212
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 4: it will make it will make like like the Highway

1213
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 4: so much smoother if they win against Washington, even if

1214
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 4: they lose the two games, they will be such a

1215
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 4: positive feeling for giant fans like myself.

1216
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 3: But see the problem I have Wilson with your analysis

1217
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: is you're looking at it more from an emotional standpoint.

1218
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 3: You're saying the fan base and the mindset and feeling good.

1219
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 3: But I think what John was getting at and what

1220
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: I continue to campaign for is the NFL.

1221
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: It's cliche, but it's a week to week league.

1222
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 3: So even if you do have a great Week one performance,

1223
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 3: you could say that's gonna uplift everybody. If you come

1224
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 3: back week two and you struggle, what difference does it

1225
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 3: make in terms of how you performed in Week one.

1226
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 3: Case in point Cincinnati to me is the poster child

1227
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 3: of your point. The Bengals were zero to three last

1228
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 3: season they started. They lost to the New England Patriots

1229
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: in Week one sixteenth to ten. It was a dreadful performance.

1230
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: Now since he didn't make the playoffs last year, but

1231
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 3: their offense got actually stronger and stronger. I would argue

1232
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: as the season progressed. So if you judge them based

1233
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: on week one and you were down to me, that

1234
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: would be what John is saying.

1235
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: It's an overreaction. It's hyperbole.

1236
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 4: No, but listen, there outliers like like that law Cincinnati

1237
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 4: is losing against against New England was an outlier. It

1238
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 4: was something that happens probably one out of twenty times.

1239
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, but we've been we've been struggling for for for

1240
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 7: a while now, and the past two season openers have

1241
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 7: been really bad and have set a tone for the whole.

1242
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: You're right, Wilson. Look, Wilson, the team cannot start oh

1243
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: and two again. It cannot have no disputing that. You

1244
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: can't dig yourself in a hole, especially when you're coming

1245
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: home and you're staring at Patrick Maholmes, Travis Kelcey and

1246
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift in week number three like that. That's a problem. Yeah, huge.

1247
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: Can I ask you something, John.

1248
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is on that team too, by the way,

1249
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: he's also pretty good. What just attack what happened?

1250
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 4: I mean hopefully not hopefully now, but let's say what happened.

1251
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 4: If that's the case that we start going to why

1252
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: do you think what I mean? You know what's going

1253
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 4: to happen.

1254
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: What do you mean what happens.

1255
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna Doug calling for this kid to.

1256
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: Start right away, and yep, that'll happen.

1257
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: It's gonna be questions. They're gonna be questions about Brian Dabll.

1258
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: You know that, trure, But that doesn't mean those things

1259
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: are gonna come to fruition.

1260
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 4: Though I'm not doing it because I'm not going to Wilson.

1261
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: That might happen, but that's just noise. The building's gonna

1262
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: prepare for Game three and try to go out there

1263
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: and beat the Chiefs. I mean, Paul Deatino won't be

1264
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: very nice to be around for a couple of weeks.

1265
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: I promise you that. But I mean other than that,

1266
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: the team's gonna come home and they're gonna try to

1267
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: win the home opener.

1268
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 3: See, Wilson, you were very concerned about the talk and

1269
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: the entertainment value of football. I could tell you bring

1270
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: this up. Also every season we go through this where

1271
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: you're worried about radio talk shows and newspaper headlines are

1272
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: gonna be critical of the team, and you can't get

1273
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 3: overwhelmed by that.

1274
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 4: I listen, I want to have fun this football season.

1275
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 4: You know.

1276
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 3: So I'm not trying to take away the fun from you,

1277
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: but what I'm saying is you can't exhaust so much

1278
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 3: energy in worrying about what could happen. And also just

1279
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: a signing the fact that because there's a lot of

1280
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: chatter and radio land and newspaper land, that that's the

1281
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: reason why the team or players are not playing well.

1282
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: Those are not necessarily coincidning with.

1283
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: I want to ask something, Yeah, do you can you

1284
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: acknowledge me this mate, is the home opener for the

1285
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: Giants more important than twenty seven other teams in the NFL?

1286
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: Would you agree with me on that.

1287
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: The home opener or the season opener?

1288
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 7: The open?

1289
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, this season opener? What do you think, Johnny?

1290
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I will say this, it is a

1291
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: divisional game, so it automatically becomes more important than other

1292
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: teams that are not playing individual in individual games. And

1293
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: Wilson appreciate the call, but is it Look, I will

1294
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: say this, What you don't want is the picture that

1295
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: Wilson painted where you got people screaming for Jackson dark

1296
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 1: very early in the year, way before the team wants

1297
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Speaker 1: to put him out there. You know, They've been very

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Speaker 1: clear they want to be patient with him. And again,

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Speaker 1: but that's outside noise, and I think Brian Dable, that's

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Speaker 1: coach you used to have in this building, has done

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Speaker 1: a good job of, you know, silent, you know, keeping

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Speaker 1: that noise out of the building. Now we take phone

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Speaker 1: calls here, so we would have to deal with it.

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Speaker 1: So I'd rather avoid that, please. But look, do I

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Speaker 1: think it's critical the Giants don't start zero and two? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I would. I would consider that to be critical. But

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Speaker 1: beyond that, I mean, I don't know what's the inner

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Speaker 1: workings of all these other fan bases and how they're

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Speaker 1: thinking about the first game of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, as you mentioned, it's divisional games, but

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Speaker 3: once again, you also play eleven games outside of the division,

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Speaker 3: and you can do actually well in your division, and

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Speaker 3: it still doesn't necessarily guarantee that everything else is going

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Speaker 3: to go according to plant. You very poorly in your

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Speaker 3: division though, and still no doubt about it being good, share,

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Speaker 3: no doubt about it. But you know, the bottom line

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Speaker 3: is you could really spin this in a million different ways.

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Speaker 1: I will say this.

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Speaker 3: I brought up the Bengals again, the bean, you know, Wilson,

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Speaker 3: the last caller phrased it is the Giants season opener

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Speaker 3: more important than any other team. So if you look

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Speaker 3: at Cincinnati last season, John, Okay, they missed out on

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Speaker 3: the playoffs by a game, and if they win that game,

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Speaker 3: if they beat New England in a low scoring affair,

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Speaker 3: who knows. And I know I'm simplifying the math and

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Speaker 3: it's not that, but every winna counts the same in

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Speaker 3: the stands. So whether you're the Giants, whether you're in Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: whether you're the Cold I mean, does it really matter.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day. The significance and importance

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Speaker 3: is through the roof. It's a qualities franchise. There's only

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Speaker 3: seventeen games. Every game is hugely important. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: Wilson's asking it more from an emotional point of view.

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Speaker 1: Correct, that's exactly yeah, And it's hard.

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Speaker 3: I'm separating the emotion from the exes and oh, you're

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Speaker 3: very good at doing that. Well, I mean that's just

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Speaker 3: how I was born and bred. Okay, it's maybe easier

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: for some people than others, but I don't get allowed

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Speaker 3: the emotion to get in the way of conversation and analysis,

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01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 3: except so you do hold.

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Speaker 1: Some grudges, You hold some gudges, you old cranky sometimes well,

1341
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: but that doesn't necessarily that has nothing to do with sports.

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01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: Though judges can be sometimes on teams or players will

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01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: be the wrong way. It's possible.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to necessarily dispute that and deny that

1345
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: betimes all of us, I think at the topic at hand, though,

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01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if that baggage has anything to do

1347
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: as we dust out some skeletons in the closet or

1348
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Speaker 3: whatever we're trying to do here. But the point is,

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Speaker 3: I think he's coming from a very emotional standpoint and

1350
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 3: putting the weight of the world on winning or losing

1351
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 3: the first game and what that could perhaps dictate and

1352
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 3: say about the rest of the season. And I just

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01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 3: don't think there's enough of a correlation that every team

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01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: that wins the first game has a great pathway and

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01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: every team that loses the first game has a tougher pathway.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think that's how the NFL function. And

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Speaker 3: even oh and two, you can still you know, make

1358
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: a run at oen three. Historically it gets very very difficult,

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Speaker 3: very very difficult.

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Speaker 1: The percentage points are not going to be in your face.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to have to go at worst

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Speaker 1: nine and five in your final fourteen game. At worst,

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Speaker 1: to have a chance of making the playoffs, you might

1364
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: have to go ten and four, and that becomes very difficult,

1365
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: very quickly.

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Speaker 3: Well, and on the related note, not to be labor

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Speaker 3: this point, I know I keep using the Bengals, but

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Speaker 3: the reason why I use the Bengals, John, and I'm

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Speaker 3: glad you brought up about the percentages and so forth.

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Speaker 3: Last three seasons, I want to take you through how

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati has started and there's a reason why they've made

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Speaker 3: it very difficult on themselves.

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Speaker 1: Well, by the way, Joe Burku's been banged up at

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Speaker 1: the start a lot of these seasons too, which is

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01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: a big reason why, without a doubt, but I mean

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Speaker 1: he's been on the field, so they went for all

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Speaker 1: of them. Then he missed a couple games one of

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01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: the years when he had the calf.

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Speaker 3: Well let me, I'm I'm gonna go real quickly. Oh

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Speaker 3: and two in twenty twenty two, Burrow was in both

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Speaker 3: of those games. He was the high passer. Okay, okay,

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01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, that was the calf here. They were

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01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 3: also oh, and two. Burrow, Oh he did play, but

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Speaker 3: oh no Burrow in the Cleveland game, weight he only

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01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: threw for eighty two. Did he get hurt in that game?

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Speaker 3: Let me just minding it up quickly. No Browning came

1387
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: in to throw one pass. So it was just a

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01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 3: rough throwing game. I mean he averaged It's boy, that's

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Speaker 3: scary two point six the elbow.

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Speaker 1: Elbow heard that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying that he was healthy, but the

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01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 3: bottom line heaps on the field. And then and then

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Speaker 3: last season oh to three. Okay, So they've been oh

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Speaker 3: and two, oh and two and oh and three in

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Speaker 3: each of the last three seasons, and they have walked

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Speaker 3: a very very fine line to your point where they

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Speaker 3: got to go nine and five in the last group

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Speaker 3: of games. So it doesn't matter how electric you are.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of people, including us, we feel good

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Speaker 3: about the Bengals offense, but we know there's issues still

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01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 3: on that roster that if they start off oh and

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Speaker 3: two and oh and three again, the playoffs is gonna

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Speaker 3: dwindle in terms of the realisticness of them getting in.

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Speaker 3: So I once again I stand by the statement you

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Speaker 3: want to talk about the Giants, you want to talk

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Speaker 3: about the Bengals, you want to talk about anybody in between.

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Speaker 3: The conversation should not differ that much. The circumstances are

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Speaker 3: the same.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff like that. Absolutely, he's last man. Oh I'm

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Speaker 1: John Shontash for joining us on Big Blue kick Off

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Cadillac Official Luxury Vehicle The Giants. We'll

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Speaker 1: one more show tomorrow. That'll be me and Paul Detino.

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Speaker 1: We'll do some over unders, maybe do some playoff predictions

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Speaker 1: as well as we continue to head into Labor Day week.

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Speaker 1: We will not have a show on Labor Day. We

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Speaker 1: were going to have them, but Pearson demanded a day off,

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Speaker 1: so we so so we had we had to skip today.

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Speaker 1: He's in charge now, so I mean, that's just kind

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Speaker 1: of how it goes.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry what podcasts all weekend.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we will no all jokes aside. Pearson's working his

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Speaker 1: butt off getting all these huddles up. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a bunch over the weekend. We're gonna have our

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Speaker 1: writers round table on Monday. A lot of stuff come

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Speaker 1: in your way, so you'll plenty of content even though

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Speaker 1: there's no Big Blue Kickoff Live on Monday. And then

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Speaker 1: we'll be back twelve thirty the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: Bob Poppol will join me on Tuesday next week. That'll

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Speaker 1: be fun. We're gonna mix Jonathan to see us back

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Speaker 1: into the mix. How it Cross will be in the mix.

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Speaker 1: We'll pretty set schedule. Tuesdays is getting a bit of

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Speaker 1: a bit of a mess. It'll be some combination of

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Speaker 1: Lance myself side Tack Cross depending on the day, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes throughout the year. So thanks

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Speaker 1: for being with us. We'll see you tomorrow on Big

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Speaker 1: Bull Kick Off Live.