Speaker 1: I'm Honey Germy. My parents are Dominican. I was born
Speaker 1: and raised in New York City. I love speakers and
Speaker 1: I'm a body positive advocate.
Speaker 2: I'm Carolina Bermudez, soy Nika a weinsay, but I was
Speaker 2: born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama,
Speaker 2: and a worker bee.
Speaker 1: This is life in Spanglish. Welcome back, Carolina. Another week
Speaker 1: of life in Spanglish.
Speaker 2: Another week of life in Spanglish, Another week of diving
Speaker 2: into the nitty gritty of other people's lives, which I
Speaker 2: feel is so great because then nobody is diving into
Speaker 2: our lives.
Speaker 1: But that is a fact. We're doing the job for them.
Speaker 1: They don't need to do it for us exactly.
Speaker 2: We were actually talking about this the other day, you
Speaker 2: and I were discussing what exactly is going to happen.
Speaker 2: I feel like weeks ago we found out about the
Speaker 2: real housewife from Atlanta and how her extravagant spending and
Speaker 2: gambling problem caused her to force and no, no, no, And
Speaker 2: I brought it up to you in passing and you
Speaker 2: were like, wait a minute, wait a minute, what you
Speaker 2: didn't even so you don't watch housewives, right or you know,
Speaker 2: I watch housewives.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Kim Zoziak, right.
Speaker 2: Right, right, But like are you? Because I am an
Speaker 2: avid watcher of certain housewife franchises.
Speaker 1: Well, Atlanta is mine, okay, okay, Jersey and Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: need them to be very problematic, and I need them
Speaker 1: to be very over the top. So those are my
Speaker 1: two shows. Which ones are yours?
Speaker 2: Yeah? See, I get into Beverly Hills, I got too
Speaker 2: rich into well, no, their next level. I got sucked
Speaker 2: into Salt Lake City for a while, just because that
Speaker 2: the one woman who went to Lake City.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that one exists. A carriage.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm telling you, like, you can get so caught
Speaker 2: up in all of these, but this one in particular,
Speaker 2: I thought was really interesting because well, I'm not a gambler.
Speaker 2: I'll put it out there right now. Do you love
Speaker 2: to gamble?
Speaker 1: Girl's got enough money to be loving things like that, right.
Speaker 1: I go to the slot machine and that's it, and
Speaker 1: then I lose two hundred dollars. I am depressed for
Speaker 1: the rest of the day.
Speaker 2: I agree. So, you know, Mark, my husband loves to gamble.
Speaker 2: He's actually really great at like blackjack. You know, he's
Speaker 2: very strategic and with numbers and things like that, and
Speaker 2: so like for him, I'm sitting there counting on fingers. No, okay, fine,
Speaker 2: I hit me, you know what I mean, Like, I'm
Speaker 2: not that quick with it. So like for me to
Speaker 2: sit at a table, people get annoyed with me because
Speaker 2: I am not a true gambler. But like whenever I
Speaker 2: would go like.
Speaker 1: If she don't get up and give up that seat,
Speaker 1: bro is going to be on?
Speaker 2: Well no, because then the way that you gamble determines
Speaker 2: if the rest of the table wins, right, so they're
Speaker 2: relying on you to like know your stuff in order
Speaker 2: for the rest of the table to win. So, for example,
Speaker 2: and I know there are some people who are listening
Speaker 2: that absolutely know this, but there are some that don't.
Speaker 2: If you get a seventeen and the dealer is showing
Speaker 2: like a fifteen, you are supposed to stay on that seventeen.
Speaker 2: I have seen adults get in full blown fistfights at
Speaker 2: the table because somebody doesn't know and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: seventeen hit me, and they're like no, you.
Speaker 1: Know, the wrong situation into the mix totally.
Speaker 2: So people get really twisted about gambling. So for me,
Speaker 2: gambling is not a thing. I don't even do scratch
Speaker 2: offs because I remember my mom used to do scratch offs.
Speaker 1: Looka you know I scratch offs?
Speaker 2: Do you? I'm not down for a scratch off unfortunately. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm just like I'd rather save my five or
Speaker 2: ten dollars. No, you know, the one that I love
Speaker 2: is the crew.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna win a million dollars? Then, Carolina?
Speaker 2: I know what is the saying? Hey, you never know, right,
Speaker 2: so they hook you with it.
Speaker 1: It's such a you gotta be in it to win it.
Speaker 3: You gotta be in.
Speaker 2: It to win it, exactly. So I saw this story
Speaker 2: and I thought to myself, how do you get to
Speaker 2: this place where or your house is being foreclosed on,
Speaker 2: you have an estate sale, you have to like you're
Speaker 2: behind in your taxes. There's like all of these things happening.
Speaker 2: None of that bana go inside the moohead. But no,
Speaker 2: people say, like it's an illness. Gambling is just as
Speaker 2: much an illness sometimes, like the people who are addicted
Speaker 2: to it, just as much as people who you know.
Speaker 2: Some people would compare it to like alcohol or drugs
Speaker 2: or things like that, because like, you have this need.
Speaker 2: So I am so grateful that I do not have
Speaker 2: that desire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually you know, they say a person with
Speaker 1: a gambling disorder, they experienced similar freaks to the like
Speaker 1: if you have a substance abuse disorder. Right, they correlate
Speaker 1: to like very very close. And they've put it in
Speaker 1: the books as something that is legit a disorder.
Speaker 2: Right, And so I had just like you, I had
Speaker 2: no idea that this woman on Housewives, because that's the
Speaker 2: other thing too, you know.
Speaker 1: So put together, right, Like when you look.
Speaker 2: At these housewives you put at the inn in Gosa
Speaker 2: at Marca, you know, they're only luxury brands. They're only
Speaker 2: showing up in Mercedes, and like all of these like
Speaker 2: lavish cars and their houses are crazy, and like this
Speaker 2: is just such proof that it is all smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 1: How do they even sleep though, Caroly? You know, it's
Speaker 1: like they owe a million dollars in taxes. Girl, the
Speaker 1: irs want fifty dollars for me. I am stressed out
Speaker 1: and looking for that money.
Speaker 2: Right, Like, how would you be able to fall asleep
Speaker 2: at night knowing that you like have so many bills
Speaker 2: to pay? Now, A lot of people say that, like
Speaker 2: the Housewives, they rent a bunch of their stuff that's
Speaker 2: not really their clothing, that's not really their handbags. And
Speaker 2: I have to be honest with you. I do I
Speaker 2: rent clothing because I have so many things that I
Speaker 2: have to go to, like I do new Ly, or
Speaker 2: I'll do rent the runway. But this is like taking
Speaker 2: it to a whole other level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these people be driven in Fendy, Gucci, Prada, like
Speaker 1: you can rent that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: See that's what I'm saying. I don't know because the
Speaker 2: stuff that I'm renting is like from freaking anthropology or
Speaker 2: urban outfitters.
Speaker 1: You know, of the mankind right right right, So.
Speaker 2: It's not even that high end. But so I did
Speaker 2: a deep dive onto her gambling habit, and I actually
Speaker 2: wanted to bring up something that my mother told me
Speaker 2: about years ago, which I don't know if your parents
Speaker 2: have ever done something like this, but I'll bring that
Speaker 2: up in a second. But they were talking about how
Speaker 2: when she was in the Bahamas once she lost two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars gambling, and I was like, oh, hell.
Speaker 1: That is a bag, Carolina, that's a home.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's that is a nice home. Actually, you know
Speaker 2: what I.
Speaker 1: Mean that's a manschait. I don't know about New York,
Speaker 1: but in Texas that could be living good with that money.
Speaker 2: I mean, right, So the fact that like I'm like,
Speaker 2: first of all, how do you even have two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty K if you don't even have the money
Speaker 2: to pay you know what I mean? Like, so I
Speaker 2: guess it's prioritizing, maybe putting your priorities in the wrong space.
Speaker 1: It's like they have the cash, but they're not using
Speaker 1: it for the right thing. Cause I saw a clip
Speaker 1: of her, like I think it was Don't be Tardy
Speaker 1: for the party where her and Kroy went to a casino.
Speaker 2: That was a spinoff Yes, yes, yes, that was their
Speaker 2: spinoff show.
Speaker 1: And they went up to the counter and he was
Speaker 1: right there with her, so I'm not even blaming her,
Speaker 1: and they were like, O, can we get twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars? And they just went to the slots, Carolyn
Speaker 1: and went ham on them slots for hours.
Speaker 2: Wow. Like, I gotta be honest with you, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: even know how to take money out on my credit
Speaker 2: card like that, Like what do you do? Like how
Speaker 2: like what is the process? Can somebody walk me through?
Speaker 1: This like, how you don't you want to even and
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy because on the show they had
Speaker 1: like an assistant with them and they showed Kim at
Speaker 1: a one hundred dollars machine and they showed the assistant
Speaker 1: and a penny slot.
Speaker 2: To me, it really does sound like she is absolutely
Speaker 2: addicted to gambling. There there's no other for me. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like me basing it off of like everything
Speaker 2: that I've read and heard, and so it's like, how
Speaker 2: then do you maybe that that's what it is. It's
Speaker 2: it's that you don't really have the logic or the
Speaker 2: ability to reason, you know, like I need to save
Speaker 2: money because she's got like four or five kids.
Speaker 1: I think with you know, with gambling, it's it's a
Speaker 1: thing of the moment. It stimulates the brain's reward system,
Speaker 1: as does a lot of different things.
Speaker 2: Did you ever see that thing on Instagram? And this
Speaker 2: is not Kim Zolciak, but there was another woman who
Speaker 2: was at the slots and she didn't want to leave
Speaker 2: because once you start putting a lot of money into
Speaker 2: that machine, people think, oh it's going to hit now,
Speaker 2: Like I've been here for twelve hours. This machine has
Speaker 2: to hit.
Speaker 1: But ask me my little with my little dollar machines,
Speaker 1: I'd be stalking looking from the side to see if
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna sit in it, and if they sit in it,
Speaker 1: I watch to see if they hit. So I guess
Speaker 1: I could rate myself. I don't know what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do if they do hit on a machine that I
Speaker 1: was sitting at.
Speaker 2: Well, no, but this woman ended up peeing her pants it,
Speaker 2: but she peed the I have to send it.
Speaker 1: To you because she wouldn't go, because she wouldn't leave.
Speaker 2: She would not leave the machine. And that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like, I thank god that I don't have something
Speaker 2: that has that much of a vice grip on me,
Speaker 2: because it has to be challenging, that has to be
Speaker 2: super difficult. But like this whole housewife thing, I feel
Speaker 2: like it brought it to the forefront because you know,
Speaker 2: you hear about men gambling, You hear about guys betting
Speaker 2: on like football games and basketball games, and you know,
Speaker 2: even these celebrities that will go out on golf tournaments.
Speaker 2: And I remember hearing like one time Michael Jordan bet
Speaker 2: like a watch or so you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like Devin like Drake.
Speaker 1: He stays betting all the time. I think, sure he
Speaker 1: has some type of endorsement, but he talks about betting
Speaker 1: all day long, so like normal, and I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't flinch at it. I see everybody betting on
Speaker 1: the boxing matches. I don't flinch. But this Kim Solcia,
Speaker 1: I think threw me for a loop. But I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, she's addicted to gambling, right, But.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying it's like And by the way,
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart totally has a legitimate partnership with Draft Kings.
Speaker 2: He said, gambling should be fun, it should be entertaining.
Speaker 2: He has like a really healthy outlook on it. And
Speaker 2: he said, he's like, you know, clearly we want people
Speaker 2: who are able to, you know, bet and do all
Speaker 2: of these things, like to do it in an entertaining way,
Speaker 2: like where you're not like because you can sacrificing your livelihood,
Speaker 2: you know, you could have fun exactly like and how
Speaker 2: amazing would it be like right now, right now, how
Speaker 2: amazing would it be if you like went and you
Speaker 2: put one hundred dollars down and you won like two grand.
Speaker 2: That would be enough for me. I would be like, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm out, Yes.
Speaker 1: But I don't know Aboudy called me till next week.
Speaker 2: Right, No, but that's what I was saying. But I
Speaker 2: don't even have the like instant or I wouldn't even want.
Speaker 2: I don't have the desire to go and do that
Speaker 2: because I would rather spend that hundred dollars on something
Speaker 2: that is going to benefit me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: See, it's something that's tangible. It's like, Okay, I spend
Speaker 1: a hund dollars, but I brought something home with.
Speaker 2: Me, right, And you know, I want to get into
Speaker 2: the thing that I was talking to my mom about
Speaker 2: because I want to explain how this actually has ties
Speaker 2: to our community and our culture. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: tell you guys what I found out, and we'll do
Speaker 2: that after the break. So when my mom was here
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, she was here for Asher's communion,
Speaker 2: and she stayed a couple of days later because I said, Mom, like,
Speaker 2: I could always use the extra help, like the boys
Speaker 2: love when you come to their like games and this,
Speaker 2: this and that. And that's when this story broke. So
Speaker 2: I was talking to my mom about it, and my
Speaker 2: mom goes oh no, I'm on kuchuan. And I said,
Speaker 2: what is a kuchua? Are you aware of this? Maybe
Speaker 2: it's a different name.
Speaker 1: I probably use a different word. Explain it to me
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you a Dominican word.
Speaker 2: So my mom said, like, so I think the way
Speaker 2: that she broke it down, and I wish I could.
Speaker 2: I wish I took notes on it. When she was
Speaker 2: explaining it to me. You get twelve people in a pool, Okay,
Speaker 2: do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: I know what you talking about. We call it associated
Speaker 1: or a some essay.
Speaker 2: Then okay, So my mom was saying elucud persona, he
Speaker 2: said familia or you know, your your friends. And every
Speaker 2: month you guys decide you're gonna put in let's say
Speaker 2: twenty dollars a week, so eighty dollars a month, okay,
Speaker 2: each month the pot goes to one person, so everybody
Speaker 2: contributes to this. And then at some point, like you
Speaker 2: could say, oh, you know, I really always need the
Speaker 2: money in April. I don't know, because you know whatever,
Speaker 2: I need the money in April because my kids have
Speaker 2: their birthdays in April. Let's say, so you can arrange
Speaker 2: with the twelve other people because there's twelve people in it.
Speaker 2: There are twelve months in a year. You all contribute
Speaker 2: the same amount of money and then you get that
Speaker 2: windfall basically once a year.
Speaker 1: Get that big bag. But it right, it's it's so
Speaker 1: weird because it's like you could have saved the money yourself, Caroline,
Speaker 1: but we get involved in these weird situations, like when
Speaker 1: I associate that on Sushu. They call it all types
Speaker 1: of different words. I've heard it, but I've never been involved.
Speaker 1: Talk to me, your mom, she'd be in it.
Speaker 2: So my mom and dad used to do that because
Speaker 2: they had six kids and when they were young well yeah,
Speaker 2: when they were younger, when we when we were younger. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So so they would always go in and they have
Speaker 2: like my mom has five brothers and sisters. My dad
Speaker 2: has four. So they would go in with family and friends.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Yeah, And you can trust because
Speaker 1: that's the reason I've never done it, because I'm not
Speaker 1: trusting people with money.
Speaker 2: Well no, And but you know what, you're all accountable,
Speaker 2: like you have to either you either give up the
Speaker 2: money up front, like at the beginning of the month,
Speaker 2: or you do a weekly thing. Right, And I would
Speaker 2: say to her, like, what would happen if somebody didn't pay,
Speaker 2: they get kicked out? You bring somebody else in, you know.
Speaker 2: So it was like legit, it was the real deal, right,
Speaker 2: And so I said her. I was like, I had
Speaker 2: no idea that this was like a thing, right, So
Speaker 2: she told me, she said, yeah, Daddy and I I
Speaker 2: used to do it. We used to ask every December
Speaker 2: or January. We were open for December or January. December
Speaker 2: because we wanted to buy you guys Christmas gifts or
Speaker 2: January because if we charge things then we could pay
Speaker 2: off those cards.
Speaker 1: People still do it now, Carolina. They be big though
Speaker 1: they'd be like ten twenty thousand. I ain't down for
Speaker 1: none of.
Speaker 2: That, no, I mean for them, it was like twenty
Speaker 2: dollars ye then yeah, yeah, and back then it's a
Speaker 2: lot of money. Eighty dollars a month. That's a lot
Speaker 2: of money. But I said, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: that's actually kind of like a bright idea because you
Speaker 2: never know when you're gonna need the money. And even so,
Speaker 2: like if you get all that money, basically it's just
Speaker 2: money changing hands, right like, and it just comes to
Speaker 2: you at a certain time when you feel like your
Speaker 2: family will benefit from it. So I said, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I said, gift. I don't want a gosa, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: So Dominicans love that, and whoever handles the money, they
Speaker 1: always take the first number. I can get down with that,
Speaker 1: I'll be number one. I get the money first. There's
Speaker 1: always like an issue with where your number lands. But
Speaker 1: Dominigans and Puerto Ricans they love doing that. Susu sang
Speaker 1: Socia that they'd be telling me.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, yeah, or come ivanco, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I would not want to be doing anything.
Speaker 2: I would be taking care of my own money because
Speaker 2: you know, people also like that can totally ruin relationships.
Speaker 2: So back to this Kim Zolciak housewife. Her daughters actually
Speaker 2: were talking about how their mom would just drop just
Speaker 2: what bands and bands and bands of money on gambling.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what kind of an effect do you
Speaker 2: think that has on them? Like they're either going to
Speaker 2: be down to gamble or never be down to gamble.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Those girls they idolized their moms. I can see them
Speaker 1: thinking this is perfectly okay. I saw a clip where
Speaker 1: Kim was at a casino for a eleven hours Carolina. No,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they know mommy was gambling for eleven hours.
Speaker 1: She's passing that down.
Speaker 2: Definitely. Well, you know what, there's we were looking up
Speaker 2: stats too, because we didn't want to make this seem
Speaker 2: like we were coming down on people. No, no, no, it's
Speaker 2: just it's very intriguing to me because you know, and
Speaker 2: I think that it's because this woman is such a
Speaker 2: high not not high profile I would say, a high
Speaker 2: profile reality TV star. I guess if that's you know,
Speaker 2: putting it, you know, giving her a title. But this
Speaker 2: gambling disorder, it affects about a one percent of Americans
Speaker 2: who just can't stop despite the consequences. Years ago, Honey,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember. Do you remember the
Speaker 2: guy on the radio, Craig Cartin. He was on sports
Speaker 2: radio and he ended up getting fired because he was
Speaker 2: pulling like he was gambling and betting all of this money,
Speaker 2: and like, do you you don't remember recall that story.
Speaker 2: He was a host of a show with Boomers Siasin
Speaker 2: and this dude was in so deep keep on gambling.
Speaker 2: I think he ended up going, well, you know, I
Speaker 2: should look that up before I even say it. But
Speaker 2: he did end up losing his job. There's consequences, and
Speaker 2: it's really truly like a sickness that people just can't stop.
Speaker 1: But sometimes it I don't know, here I am, sometimes
Speaker 1: it pays off. Here's one story you are gonna remember, Carolina.
Speaker 1: Remember when Jennifer Lopez's mother won the two point four
Speaker 1: million dollars in the casino.
Speaker 2: Wait, no, remind me of the story, because I think
Speaker 2: I remember thinking to myself, why in the hell is
Speaker 2: Jlo's mom winning this kind of money? She already won
Speaker 2: the lottery with like Jennifer as her daughter exactly.
Speaker 1: I was so mad, I said, hold on, her name
Speaker 1: is Jalla Loupe. I think, I'm like, why is why
Speaker 1: Lupe winning two point four million dollars and not my mama?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: But can you imagine I's at the Borgata right here,
Speaker 1: and I know I think the first time she won
Speaker 1: was at the Borgata in two thousand and four, and
Speaker 1: then she won again.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. But what is it like to have
Speaker 2: that luck? You know, there are just certain peoples. We
Speaker 2: are so lucky because like my girlfriend Christina, my girlfriend Christina,
Speaker 2: I can go to any charity function. She can go
Speaker 2: to any kind of a fundraiser. This girl will walk in.
Speaker 2: She'll put her tickets in each you know, they have
Speaker 2: raffles and little raffles forget it, game over. She'll win
Speaker 2: like two or three prizes. I'll be sitting there looking
Speaker 2: at my one little number, like all right, yan, yeah,
Speaker 2: are they gonna call out number seven O three at
Speaker 2: the end? Seven o three? And always seeing there waiting,
Speaker 2: she will walk up to the stage three four times,
Speaker 2: just getting all of the baskets. I'm like, girl, how
Speaker 2: do you do it? There are just certain people who
Speaker 2: are lucky like that.
Speaker 1: I've never won anything, like I always do those raffles
Speaker 1: when I go to parties, but I never win anything
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: I know, why are we like this? How can we
Speaker 2: like it at them? We need to like get something
Speaker 2: on our side over here or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but these casinos they be full Carolina cause I
Speaker 1: like the slots. I don't do but I go and
Speaker 1: a lot of old people are there, so it's like
Speaker 1: it's normal. It's not even a young person thing. It's
Speaker 1: not even a Latino thing. It's everybody thing.
Speaker 2: No, you know what it is in Florida, though, I
Speaker 2: do see like because my mom likes to go to
Speaker 2: the casino. She goes to the hard rock. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: go to that one too, like but saying like that,
Speaker 2: it's sometimes I feel like when you're older, you don't
Speaker 2: have the same hobbies that you did when you were younger.
Speaker 2: So it's a place to go. You know, they entice
Speaker 2: you with gifts and stuff. They were giving my mom
Speaker 2: presents and stuff to get her to come back to play.
Speaker 2: She got an air fyer, she got a bottle of
Speaker 2: gray Goose. I was like, my bottle of gray Goose,
Speaker 2: I said, not the bottle of gray Goose. Mom like,
Speaker 2: what's going on? She's like, oh, Mandy, I don't want
Speaker 2: to nautch you well, okay playa who got it? And they
Speaker 2: give her dinner? And I was like, girl friend, are
Speaker 2: you a heart roller?
Speaker 1: These casinos they don't make it any easier. So it's like,
Speaker 1: if you're already here struggling with a gambling addiction, minding
Speaker 1: your business, all of a sudden you get a text message,
Speaker 1: pull up tonight. We're giving away this to the first
Speaker 1: one hundred people because I've gotten them. I go to
Speaker 1: hard rock over there.
Speaker 2: Because they do Yeah. No, they in Hollywood Florida, right,
Speaker 2: So you know what they're doing because I was.
Speaker 1: I get the text messages and I get the emails,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, if I was in Florida right now,
Speaker 1: I would pull up and do some gambling.
Speaker 2: Or they'll give you, like tickets to a show, like
Speaker 2: the one time she was like, oh, Pitbull is gonna
Speaker 2: be there, and I said, okay, She's like, Mannie, you
Speaker 2: don't take it, bet On. You know. I eat and
Speaker 2: I'm like, mom, why are they giving you free tickets?
Speaker 2: And she's like, because I go and I play, and
Speaker 2: so they're looking for ways to entice you. But when
Speaker 2: we come back from this break, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: what women, what more women are getting involved with, and
Speaker 2: what more women are playing And this is interesting to me,
Speaker 2: so i'll tell you right after we take this away. Well,
Speaker 2: now you know we have to talk about it because
Speaker 2: now in my circles, so have you ever played that?
Speaker 2: I can't even believe I'm asking you this. I have
Speaker 2: girlfriends who have majong and canasta groups.
Speaker 1: I've heard the canasta I've heard for like the Latino sense,
Speaker 1: I've never heard it like in America. Okay, sods.
Speaker 2: So my friend who is my age. She's in her forties.
Speaker 2: She has a magen group, she has a Canasta group.
Speaker 2: So these women are getting together two three times a
Speaker 2: week now, and they're not playing for like, you know,
Speaker 2: a ton of money or whatever. You know, they're playing.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you would even bet on that
Speaker 2: because I've never played them.
Speaker 1: It's more for fun, yeah, she said, it's.
Speaker 2: More for fun. It's more for like camaraderie. And they're
Speaker 2: saying that women now are looking for these like non
Speaker 2: strategic forms of gaming so that they can like form
Speaker 2: a camaraderie or that they can like get together and you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's more like a community thing versus a gambling
Speaker 1: addiction thing. I could get down with that, right.
Speaker 2: Like bingo. Okay, I'm done with bingo, I'm saying, but
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. Like, so for me, I look
Speaker 2: at like this whole big story and how it's like
Speaker 2: grown out of like, yeah, you know this four. I
Speaker 2: feel bad for them. Anytime I see people getting divorced,
Speaker 2: I feel terrible, you know, because you think of the
Speaker 2: kids and all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: But like when with them Carolina's he adopted her kids,
Speaker 1: So how does that even work?
Speaker 2: Well, those were her two older girls, and then they
Speaker 2: ended up having like a bunch of kids together.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they share some too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she they had their little boys, I
Speaker 2: think after I think they had two little boys and
Speaker 2: a girl.
Speaker 1: You're right, the ones that he adopted should be grown women.
Speaker 1: Now there's no custody, there's no child support, there's nothing.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: She did file for soul custody of the children. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's like another layer that we
Speaker 1: are yet to find out about with this consousiac.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean things are gonna keep coming out and
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: These somebody do you think somebody cheated here?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I think he adored her. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe Papa's back in her life.
Speaker 2: Oh want her, big Papa, Big Papa.
Speaker 1: That's how we got to know Nini was not with that.
Speaker 2: That is so throwback, like old school. That's when it
Speaker 2: was really good.
Speaker 1: And that's when that's when I got addicted to it.
Speaker 1: I can tell you anything about the Atlanta Housewives that
Speaker 1: you need to know.
Speaker 2: No, well, you know what I mean. Listen, you just
Speaker 2: said addicted And if you know anybody with a gambling addiction,
Speaker 2: and this was I mean, I just wanted to discuss
Speaker 2: this because I had never really seen a woman being
Speaker 2: put out there. You know, you always hear about men.
Speaker 2: You always hear about guys and sports and betting and
Speaker 2: all of these things, and this is like the first real,
Speaker 2: you know, highlighting of a woman having a gambling addiction.
Speaker 2: I thought, wow, you know, we we really do need
Speaker 2: to talk about there are women out there that may
Speaker 2: need help. So you know, you should absolutely reach out
Speaker 2: and get help if somebody is addicted to gambling, like
Speaker 2: in your family, or even if you think you know, look,
Speaker 2: now they're getting kids to do it on there on
Speaker 2: the video games, Like my kids are playing NBA two
Speaker 2: K and Noah and Asher were arguing because they had
Speaker 2: to exchange money, I guess to get different players and
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, I'll bet I said, guys, guys, guys.
Speaker 1: Whose credit card is on that game?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, no, no, we don't. We don't
Speaker 2: put any cards. In fact, we were smart about this
Speaker 2: and I'm so glad that we did this. From the
Speaker 2: very beginning, we put like an amex, like one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars card so they get there's nothing like they are
Speaker 2: not linked to our thing, so like on accident, if
Speaker 2: they purchase like.
Speaker 1: Oh that's that's smart, so.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, so then they're not running up our credit card,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But I even thought like,
Speaker 2: look at like they're trying to get in early with
Speaker 2: these kids with like Fortnite and NBA two.
Speaker 1: K and skins and all that stuff, right.
Speaker 2: Right, right, So you know, if you know somebody who
Speaker 2: has a problem, it's a really easy number, one eight
Speaker 2: hundred Gambler. You can chat at one eight hundred gambler
Speaker 2: chat dot org, or you can text eight hundred gam
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to come off as like
Speaker 2: being preachy, but I do think that it's really important
Speaker 2: for us to like figuring out these these conversations and
Speaker 2: highlight you know, maybe this is something that we should
Speaker 2: be paying more attention to as women. You know, No,
Speaker 2: it definitely isn't.
Speaker 1: And I was looking and the treatment resembles that of
Speaker 1: like alcohol use or like substance abuse disorder, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, they're really really treating this as something serious.
Speaker 1: Like you think like, oh, yeah, this person gambles. But
Speaker 1: the more I read and the more I researched. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is serious. They need medication sometimes, they need counseling.
Speaker 1: They even have rehab centers where you could go live
Speaker 1: at for gambling addiction, Carolina.
Speaker 2: But girl, that's that's because it's literally in your hands.
Speaker 2: The phone is in your hands, Like, you can access
Speaker 2: this anywhere. And that's the thing. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: with alcohol, you can go to any street corner and
Speaker 2: walk in and get a bottle of alcohol. With gambling,
Speaker 2: you literally can be on any kind of these apps
Speaker 2: or these sites all day long from your computer or
Speaker 2: from your phone.
Speaker 1: And nobody will know you're just sitting there. You're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear you, hear you. Meanwhile, you're gambling on your phone.
Speaker 1: Can't you do lotto in some states on your phone?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How elarly?
Speaker 2: Is that all of it? And that's why I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yes, all of it. That's why I was like,
Speaker 2: holy wow, this is really like something that we should
Speaker 2: just be aware of and be open to discussing.
Speaker 1: For sure, because it has long term effects. I was
Speaker 1: reading the like more than twenty percent of compulsive gamblers
Speaker 1: and the filing for bankruptcy, Caroline. You know, what bankruptcy
Speaker 1: does to someone's life.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know a whole lot about bankruptcy,
Speaker 2: but what I know is just that, like what you're
Speaker 2: wiped out, you basically have to like begin building your
Speaker 2: credit from zero from nothing, Like how do you do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're I've seen people do it. You're you're wiped out.
Speaker 1: The only thing that stays with you forever is your
Speaker 1: student debt. Them student debts, you won't pay them regardless,
Speaker 1: And I think like IRS debt, stuff like that, But
Speaker 1: I think your credit is shot for like over five six,
Speaker 1: seven years, Like you can't do anything once that bankruptcy
Speaker 1: hits your credit. And we know you can't buy a home,
Speaker 1: you can't even rent an apartment, you can't buy a car.
Speaker 1: And then it spills over because then you got to
Speaker 1: start asking a familia.
Speaker 3: No no no no no no no no. You never
Speaker 3: ever lend anybody money.
Speaker 2: You give them money with the expectation that you're never
Speaker 2: going to get it back. Unfortunately, if they give it back,
Speaker 2: then it's a bonus. Then that's a win for you.
Speaker 2: But if you're giving money to somebody, you better be
Speaker 2: prepared to take that lass You did your parents ever
Speaker 2: talk to you about that, because my parents would always
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 1: No, not really. I just adopted that myself. I don't
Speaker 1: let nobody borrow money, Carolina, I'm always broke.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You don't need to know what I have in the
Speaker 1: bank or I don't have in the bank, because, like
Speaker 1: you said, that's it. Unless it's like somebody very close
Speaker 1: to me. They're like, I need ten thousand dollars, you'll
Speaker 1: get it next month, and I trust them. Yeah, but like, oh,
Speaker 1: you could kiss that money goodbye. These people are not
Speaker 1: coming back.
Speaker 2: I love how you said, I'm always broke. Don't come
Speaker 2: knock on my door because I don't have money either.
Speaker 1: It's that's me nothing, you know, because you have to.
Speaker 1: It sucks, but sometimes you have to put that narrative
Speaker 1: forward when you have friends and families who are always
Speaker 1: looking for money to be buy.
Speaker 2: That's like I had a nanny and I know we
Speaker 2: have to wrap it up soon, but I do have
Speaker 2: to say this, Like I had a nanny back in
Speaker 2: the day who I absolutely adored. Oh my gosh, she
Speaker 2: was so amazing. She had family back home. They were
Speaker 2: always calling her la like one needed.
Speaker 1: Dentist, expensive girl, help.
Speaker 2: One needed her car broke down and uberg and and
Speaker 2: so I finally told her, I said, I said, why
Speaker 2: don't you tell them that you you're not making as
Speaker 2: much money, except tell them that we reduced your pay
Speaker 2: so that you can save your own mind. We had
Speaker 2: to strategize because get.
Speaker 1: The culture, how to get the boos of, how to
Speaker 1: get the vultures off my back?
Speaker 2: I said, people are vultures. I said it get band
Speaker 2: sung seeing the netto like what like, what is you're
Speaker 2: out here helping me raise my two little boys. This
Speaker 2: is way when the kids were way younger. And I said,
Speaker 2: you're you're not sitting out here watching TV and hanging out,
Speaker 2: You're working, you know. I felt like protective of her,
Speaker 2: and I feel bad for encouraging her to lie. But
Speaker 2: I told her, I said, if you don't lie, you
Speaker 2: will go home with nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you coached her. And because that's how I
Speaker 1: lived my life, Carolina. That's why I said, somebody very
Speaker 1: very young. If it's a food, I will always give
Speaker 1: you the money. But if you're trying to go on vacations,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to buy bags, if I see you
Speaker 1: flexing on the gram, do not hit me for a penny.
Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, how are you going to go
Speaker 2: on all of these occasions and then be asking me
Speaker 2: for money so that I'm going to see it on
Speaker 2: social media basically a week from now and then.
Speaker 1: You're gonna yeah.
Speaker 2: And then by the way, if you got a better
Speaker 2: bag than me and you're borrowing money for me, I
Speaker 2: resent that say, like, wait a minute, I'm out here
Speaker 2: using my target Hunter bag that I got from the
Speaker 2: Drop three years ago. You know what I mean, like
Speaker 2: cause I like, I like to use my stuff until
Speaker 2: it's all worn out right and now to the but
Speaker 2: you're going to be out here, so you know, I
Speaker 2: think that, like this was a really good episode for
Speaker 2: us to talk about and and just basically give people
Speaker 2: the heads up. Watch your people, maybe check in, like
Speaker 2: if you see one of your friends or one of
Speaker 2: your family members that's constantly like, you know, playing. Oh
Speaker 2: and by the way, did you see that over the summer,
Speaker 2: CBS is gonna start this game show.
Speaker 1: Called because it sounds like something I might watch.
Speaker 2: It's like a Mexican game show that they based it
Speaker 2: off off of, and I think that it's going to
Speaker 2: it's gonna be on CBS.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Cbhicano and it's gonna why wash it and
Speaker 1: bring it to America?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. The guy from Jane the Virgin
Speaker 2: is gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: Okay, good good, Okay, A Lisa Latino is gonna host.
Speaker 2: Yeah. His name is Jamie Camille. I think it is and.
Speaker 1: HEMI I know exactly is it?
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, that's j I mean Jamie come in.
Speaker 1: You know why watched his name?
Speaker 2: Right? I sure did. I didn't watch j in the Virgin,
Speaker 2: but yeah, JB it is, well, you know what, look
Speaker 2: I like it. I feel like it's gonna be something good.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can watch it with the family. And that's
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 1: It brings us to the forefront. I'm always down for
Speaker 1: something that that stays true to our culture, our roots.
Speaker 1: Does it make us look crazy and just puts us
Speaker 1: in people's faces. I love when Latinos are in peoples.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I was so obsessed with Bad Bunny,
Speaker 1: because it was just like, here we are, and you
Speaker 1: can't make us go away.
Speaker 2: You can't deny us. Well there you guys have it.
Speaker 2: When you see Lori Loka this summer, you're gonna think
Speaker 2: of me calling himeen Janie.
Speaker 1: Guys, you will.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly well, you know what, hit us up on
Speaker 2: the Gram and hopefully you got something out of this.
Speaker 2: You know, I know that sometimes we're you know, we
Speaker 2: have fun episodes. We have episodes that are a little
Speaker 2: bit more thought provoking. Some episodes, you know, that are
Speaker 2: a little bit of more substance. But you know what,
Speaker 2: that's what we're here to do, just to have the conversations.
Speaker 1: One of the main reasons gambling is so popular is
Speaker 1: because people see it as a social activity. But we
Speaker 1: live in a world where you can socialize in so
Speaker 1: many different ways and do so many different things that
Speaker 1: if you drive by the casino you think you're going
Speaker 1: to go in there and do some socializing, kill that
Speaker 1: idea and keep driving right past that casino.
Speaker 2: Amen, save that money, I want to said it nao
Speaker 2: and always always in.
Speaker 1: Case kroly Naneda loan, save your money exactly.
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