WEBVTT - Gambling Is a REAL Adiccion

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Honey Germy. My parents are Dominican. I was born

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<v Speaker 1>and raised in New York City. I love speakers and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a body positive advocate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Carolina Bermudez, soy Nika a weinsay, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama,

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<v Speaker 2>and a worker bee.

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<v Speaker 1>This is life in Spanglish. Welcome back, Carolina. Another week

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<v Speaker 1>of life in Spanglish.

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<v Speaker 2>Another week of life in Spanglish, Another week of diving

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<v Speaker 2>into the nitty gritty of other people's lives, which I

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<v Speaker 2>feel is so great because then nobody is diving into

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<v Speaker 2>our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is a fact. We're doing the job for them.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't need to do it for us exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>We were actually talking about this the other day, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I were discussing what exactly is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like weeks ago we found out about the

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<v Speaker 2>real housewife from Atlanta and how her extravagant spending and

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<v Speaker 2>gambling problem caused her to force and no, no, no, And

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<v Speaker 2>I brought it up to you in passing and you

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<v Speaker 2>were like, wait a minute, wait a minute, what you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even so you don't watch housewives, right or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I watch housewives.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about Kim Zoziak, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, But like are you? Because I am an

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<v Speaker 2>avid watcher of certain housewife franchises.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Atlanta is mine, okay, okay, Jersey and Atlanta. I

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<v Speaker 1>need them to be very problematic, and I need them

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<v Speaker 1>to be very over the top. So those are my

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<v Speaker 1>two shows. Which ones are yours?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? See, I get into Beverly Hills, I got too

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<v Speaker 2>rich into well, no, their next level. I got sucked

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<v Speaker 2>into Salt Lake City for a while, just because that

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<v Speaker 2>the one woman who went to Lake City.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know that one exists. A carriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm telling you, like, you can get so caught

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<v Speaker 2>up in all of these, but this one in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was really interesting because well, I'm not a gambler.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put it out there right now. Do you love

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<v Speaker 2>to gamble?

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<v Speaker 1>Girl's got enough money to be loving things like that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the slot machine and that's it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I lose two hundred dollars. I am depressed for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. So, you know, Mark, my husband loves to gamble.

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<v Speaker 2>He's actually really great at like blackjack. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>very strategic and with numbers and things like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>so like for him, I'm sitting there counting on fingers. No, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I hit me, you know what I mean, Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not that quick with it. So like for me to

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<v Speaker 2>sit at a table, people get annoyed with me because

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<v Speaker 2>I am not a true gambler. But like whenever I

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<v Speaker 2>would go like.

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<v Speaker 1>If she don't get up and give up that seat,

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<v Speaker 1>bro is going to be on?

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, because then the way that you gamble determines

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<v Speaker 2>if the rest of the table wins, right, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>relying on you to like know your stuff in order

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the table to win. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know there are some people who are listening

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<v Speaker 2>that absolutely know this, but there are some that don't.

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<v Speaker 2>If you get a seventeen and the dealer is showing

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<v Speaker 2>like a fifteen, you are supposed to stay on that seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen adults get in full blown fistfights at

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<v Speaker 2>the table because somebody doesn't know and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen hit me, and they're like no, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, the wrong situation into the mix totally.

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<v Speaker 2>So people get really twisted about gambling. So for me,

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<v Speaker 2>gambling is not a thing. I don't even do scratch

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<v Speaker 2>offs because I remember my mom used to do scratch offs.

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<v Speaker 1>Looka you know I scratch offs?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you? I'm not down for a scratch off unfortunately. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just like I'd rather save my five or

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<v Speaker 2>ten dollars. No, you know, the one that I love

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<v Speaker 2>is the crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna win a million dollars? Then, Carolina?

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<v Speaker 2>I know what is the saying? Hey, you never know, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so they hook you with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a you gotta be in it to win it.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta be in.

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<v Speaker 2>It to win it, exactly. So I saw this story

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought to myself, how do you get to

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<v Speaker 2>this place where or your house is being foreclosed on,

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<v Speaker 2>you have an estate sale, you have to like you're

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<v Speaker 2>behind in your taxes. There's like all of these things happening.

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<v Speaker 2>None of that bana go inside the moohead. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>people say, like it's an illness. Gambling is just as

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<v Speaker 2>much an illness sometimes, like the people who are addicted

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<v Speaker 2>to it, just as much as people who you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people would compare it to like alcohol or drugs

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<v Speaker 2>or things like that, because like, you have this need.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am so grateful that I do not have

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<v Speaker 2>that desire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's actually you know, they say a person with

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<v Speaker 1>a gambling disorder, they experienced similar freaks to the like

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a substance abuse disorder. Right, they correlate

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<v Speaker 1>to like very very close. And they've put it in

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<v Speaker 1>the books as something that is legit a disorder.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And so I had just like you, I had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea that this woman on Housewives, because that's the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing too, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So put together, right, Like when you look.

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<v Speaker 2>At these housewives you put at the inn in Gosa

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<v Speaker 2>at Marca, you know, they're only luxury brands. They're only

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<v Speaker 2>showing up in Mercedes, and like all of these like

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<v Speaker 2>lavish cars and their houses are crazy, and like this

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<v Speaker 2>is just such proof that it is all smoke and mirrors.

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<v Speaker 1>How do they even sleep though, Caroly? You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like they owe a million dollars in taxes. Girl, the

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<v Speaker 1>irs want fifty dollars for me. I am stressed out

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<v Speaker 1>and looking for that money.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, how would you be able to fall asleep

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<v Speaker 2>at night knowing that you like have so many bills

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<v Speaker 2>to pay? Now, A lot of people say that, like

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<v Speaker 2>the Housewives, they rent a bunch of their stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>not really their clothing, that's not really their handbags. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be honest with you. I do I

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<v Speaker 2>rent clothing because I have so many things that I

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<v Speaker 2>have to go to, like I do new Ly, or

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do rent the runway. But this is like taking

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<v Speaker 2>it to a whole other level.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these people be driven in Fendy, Gucci, Prada, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can rent that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's what I'm saying. I don't know because the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that I'm renting is like from freaking anthropology or

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<v Speaker 2>urban outfitters.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, of the mankind right right right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even that high end. But so I did

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<v Speaker 2>a deep dive onto her gambling habit, and I actually

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to bring up something that my mother told me

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<v Speaker 2>about years ago, which I don't know if your parents

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<v Speaker 2>have ever done something like this, but I'll bring that

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<v Speaker 2>up in a second. But they were talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>when she was in the Bahamas once she lost two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty thousand dollars gambling, and I was like, oh, hell.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a bag, Carolina, that's a home.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's that is a nice home. Actually, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean that's a manschait. I don't know about New York,

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<v Speaker 1>but in Texas that could be living good with that money.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, right, So the fact that like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, how do you even have two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty K if you don't even have the money

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<v Speaker 2>to pay you know what I mean? Like, so I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it's prioritizing, maybe putting your priorities in the wrong space.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they have the cash, but they're not using

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<v Speaker 1>it for the right thing. Cause I saw a clip

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<v Speaker 1>of her, like I think it was Don't be Tardy

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<v Speaker 1>for the party where her and Kroy went to a casino.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a spinoff Yes, yes, yes, that was their

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<v Speaker 2>spinoff show.

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<v Speaker 1>And they went up to the counter and he was

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<v Speaker 1>right there with her, so I'm not even blaming her,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, O, can we get twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars? And they just went to the slots, Carolyn

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<v Speaker 1>and went ham on them slots for hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Like, I gotta be honest with you, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know how to take money out on my credit

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<v Speaker 2>card like that, Like what do you do? Like how

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<v Speaker 2>like what is the process? Can somebody walk me through?

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<v Speaker 1>This like, how you don't you want to even and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's crazy because on the show they had

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<v Speaker 1>like an assistant with them and they showed Kim at

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<v Speaker 1>a one hundred dollars machine and they showed the assistant

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<v Speaker 1>and a penny slot.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it really does sound like she is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>addicted to gambling. There there's no other for me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, like me basing it off of like everything

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<v Speaker 2>that I've read and heard, and so it's like, how

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<v Speaker 2>then do you maybe that that's what it is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's that you don't really have the logic or the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to reason, you know, like I need to save

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<v Speaker 2>money because she's got like four or five kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with you know, with gambling, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>thing of the moment. It stimulates the brain's reward system,

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<v Speaker 1>as does a lot of different things.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever see that thing on Instagram? And this

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<v Speaker 2>is not Kim Zolciak, but there was another woman who

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<v Speaker 2>was at the slots and she didn't want to leave

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<v Speaker 2>because once you start putting a lot of money into

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<v Speaker 2>that machine, people think, oh it's going to hit now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've been here for twelve hours. This machine has

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<v Speaker 2>to hit.

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<v Speaker 1>But ask me my little with my little dollar machines,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be stalking looking from the side to see if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna sit in it, and if they sit in it,

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<v Speaker 1>I watch to see if they hit. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I could rate myself. I don't know what I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do if they do hit on a machine that I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting at.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, but this woman ended up peeing her pants it,

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<v Speaker 2>but she peed the I have to send it.

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<v Speaker 1>To you because she wouldn't go, because she wouldn't leave.

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<v Speaker 2>She would not leave the machine. And that's why I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I thank god that I don't have something

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<v Speaker 2>that has that much of a vice grip on me,

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<v Speaker 2>because it has to be challenging, that has to be

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<v Speaker 2>super difficult. But like this whole housewife thing, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it brought it to the forefront because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you hear about men gambling, You hear about guys betting

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<v Speaker 2>on like football games and basketball games, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even these celebrities that will go out on golf tournaments.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember hearing like one time Michael Jordan bet

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<v Speaker 2>like a watch or so you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Devin like Drake.

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<v Speaker 1>He stays betting all the time. I think, sure he

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<v Speaker 1>has some type of endorsement, but he talks about betting

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<v Speaker 1>all day long, so like normal, and I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't flinch at it. I see everybody betting on

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<v Speaker 1>the boxing matches. I don't flinch. But this Kim Solcia,

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<v Speaker 1>I think threw me for a loop. But I'm like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, she's addicted to gambling, right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm saying it's like And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Hart totally has a legitimate partnership with Draft Kings.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, gambling should be fun, it should be entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>He has like a really healthy outlook on it. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, he's like, you know, clearly we want people

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<v Speaker 2>who are able to, you know, bet and do all

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<v Speaker 2>of these things, like to do it in an entertaining way,

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<v Speaker 2>like where you're not like because you can sacrificing your livelihood,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you could have fun exactly like and how

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<v Speaker 2>amazing would it be like right now, right now, how

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<v Speaker 2>amazing would it be if you like went and you

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<v Speaker 2>put one hundred dollars down and you won like two grand.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be enough for me. I would be like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know Aboudy called me till next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, but that's what I was saying. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have the like instant or I wouldn't even want.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the desire to go and do that

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<v Speaker 2>because I would rather spend that hundred dollars on something

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<v Speaker 2>that is going to benefit me, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>See, it's something that's tangible. It's like, Okay, I spend

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<v Speaker 1>a hund dollars, but I brought something home with.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, right, And you know, I want to get into

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that I was talking to my mom about

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<v Speaker 2>because I want to explain how this actually has ties

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<v Speaker 2>to our community and our culture. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you guys what I found out, and we'll do

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<v Speaker 2>that after the break. So when my mom was here

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, she was here for Asher's communion,

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<v Speaker 2>and she stayed a couple of days later because I said, Mom, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I could always use the extra help, like the boys

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<v Speaker 2>love when you come to their like games and this,

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<v Speaker 2>this and that. And that's when this story broke. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to my mom about it, and my

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<v Speaker 2>mom goes oh no, I'm on kuchuan. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what is a kuchua? Are you aware of this? Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different name.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably use a different word. Explain it to me

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll tell you a Dominican word.

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<v Speaker 2>So my mom said, like, so I think the way

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<v Speaker 2>that she broke it down, and I wish I could.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I took notes on it. When she was

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<v Speaker 2>explaining it to me. You get twelve people in a pool, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you talking about. We call it associated

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<v Speaker 1>or a some essay.

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<v Speaker 2>Then okay, So my mom was saying elucud persona, he

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<v Speaker 2>said familia or you know, your your friends. And every

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<v Speaker 2>month you guys decide you're gonna put in let's say

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<v Speaker 2>twenty dollars a week, so eighty dollars a month, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>each month the pot goes to one person, so everybody

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<v Speaker 2>contributes to this. And then at some point, like you

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<v Speaker 2>could say, oh, you know, I really always need the

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<v Speaker 2>money in April. I don't know, because you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I need the money in April because my kids have

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<v Speaker 2>their birthdays in April. Let's say, so you can arrange

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<v Speaker 2>with the twelve other people because there's twelve people in it.

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<v Speaker 2>There are twelve months in a year. You all contribute

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<v Speaker 2>the same amount of money and then you get that

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<v Speaker 2>windfall basically once a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Get that big bag. But it right, it's it's so

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<v Speaker 1>weird because it's like you could have saved the money yourself, Caroline,

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<v Speaker 1>but we get involved in these weird situations, like when

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<v Speaker 1>I associate that on Sushu. They call it all types

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<v Speaker 1>of different words. I've heard it, but I've never been involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me, your mom, she'd be in it.

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<v Speaker 2>So my mom and dad used to do that because

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<v Speaker 2>they had six kids and when they were young well yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when they were younger, when we when we were younger. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So so they would always go in and they have

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<v Speaker 2>like my mom has five brothers and sisters. My dad

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<v Speaker 2>has four. So they would go in with family and friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that. Yeah, And you can trust because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the reason I've never done it, because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trusting people with money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, And but you know what, you're all accountable,

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<v Speaker 2>like you have to either you either give up the

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<v Speaker 2>money up front, like at the beginning of the month,

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<v Speaker 2>or you do a weekly thing. Right, And I would

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<v Speaker 2>say to her, like, what would happen if somebody didn't pay,

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<v Speaker 2>they get kicked out? You bring somebody else in, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like legit, it was the real deal, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I said her. I was like, I had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea that this was like a thing, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>she told me, she said, yeah, Daddy and I I

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<v Speaker 2>used to do it. We used to ask every December

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<v Speaker 2>or January. We were open for December or January. December

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<v Speaker 2>because we wanted to buy you guys Christmas gifts or

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<v Speaker 2>January because if we charge things then we could pay

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<v Speaker 2>off those cards.

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<v Speaker 1>People still do it now, Carolina. They be big though

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be like ten twenty thousand. I ain't down for

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<v Speaker 1>none of.

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<v Speaker 2>That, no, I mean for them, it was like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars ye then yeah, yeah, and back then it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money. Eighty dollars a month. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money. But I said, I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually kind of like a bright idea because you

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<v Speaker 2>never know when you're gonna need the money. And even so,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you get all that money, basically it's just

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<v Speaker 2>money changing hands, right like, and it just comes to

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<v Speaker 2>you at a certain time when you feel like your

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<v Speaker 2>family will benefit from it. So I said, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, gift. I don't want a gosa, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dominicans love that, and whoever handles the money, they

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<v Speaker 1>always take the first number. I can get down with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be number one. I get the money first. There's

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<v Speaker 1>always like an issue with where your number lands. But

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<v Speaker 1>Dominigans and Puerto Ricans they love doing that. Susu sang

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<v Speaker 1>Socia that they'd be telling me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, yeah, or come ivanco, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I would not want to be doing anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be taking care of my own money because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people also like that can totally ruin relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>So back to this Kim Zolciak housewife. Her daughters actually

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about how their mom would just drop just

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<v Speaker 2>what bands and bands and bands of money on gambling.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, what kind of an effect do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that has on them? Like they're either going to

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<v Speaker 2>be down to gamble or never be down to gamble.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Those girls they idolized their moms. I can see them

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<v Speaker 1>thinking this is perfectly okay. I saw a clip where

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<v Speaker 1>Kim was at a casino for a eleven hours Carolina. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure they know mommy was gambling for eleven hours.

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<v Speaker 1>She's passing that down.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. Well, you know what, there's we were looking up

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<v Speaker 2>stats too, because we didn't want to make this seem

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<v Speaker 2>like we were coming down on people. No, no, no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's very intriguing to me because you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it's because this woman is such a

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<v Speaker 2>high not not high profile I would say, a high

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<v Speaker 2>profile reality TV star. I guess if that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>putting it, you know, giving her a title. But this

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<v Speaker 2>gambling disorder, it affects about a one percent of Americans

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<v Speaker 2>who just can't stop despite the consequences. Years ago, Honey,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you remember. Do you remember the

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<v Speaker 2>guy on the radio, Craig Cartin. He was on sports

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<v Speaker 2>radio and he ended up getting fired because he was

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<v Speaker 2>pulling like he was gambling and betting all of this money,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, do you you don't remember recall that story.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a host of a show with Boomers Siasin

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<v Speaker 2>and this dude was in so deep keep on gambling.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he ended up going, well, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>should look that up before I even say it. But

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<v Speaker 2>he did end up losing his job. There's consequences, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's really truly like a sickness that people just can't stop.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes it I don't know, here I am, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it pays off. Here's one story you are gonna remember, Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember when Jennifer Lopez's mother won the two point four

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in the casino.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, no, remind me of the story, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking to myself, why in the hell is

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<v Speaker 2>Jlo's mom winning this kind of money? She already won

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<v Speaker 2>the lottery with like Jennifer as her daughter exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so mad, I said, hold on, her name

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<v Speaker 1>is Jalla Loupe. I think, I'm like, why is why

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<v Speaker 1>Lupe winning two point four million dollars and not my mama?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you imagine I's at the Borgata right here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know I think the first time she won

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<v Speaker 1>was at the Borgata in two thousand and four, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she won again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. But what is it like to have

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<v Speaker 2>that luck? You know, there are just certain peoples. We

0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:02.000
<v Speaker 2>are so lucky because like my girlfriend Christina, my girlfriend Christina,

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<v Speaker 2>I can go to any charity function. She can go

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<v Speaker 2>to any kind of a fundraiser. This girl will walk in.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll put her tickets in each you know, they have

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<v Speaker 2>raffles and little raffles forget it, game over. She'll win

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<v Speaker 2>like two or three prizes. I'll be sitting there looking

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<v Speaker 2>at my one little number, like all right, yan, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>are they gonna call out number seven O three at

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<v Speaker 2>the end? Seven o three? And always seeing there waiting,

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<v Speaker 2>she will walk up to the stage three four times,

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<v Speaker 2>just getting all of the baskets. I'm like, girl, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you do it? There are just certain people who

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<v Speaker 2>are lucky like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never won anything, like I always do those raffles

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<v Speaker 1>when I go to parties, but I never win anything

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, why are we like this? How can we

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<v Speaker 2>like it at them? We need to like get something

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<v Speaker 2>on our side over here or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but these casinos they be full Carolina cause I

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<v Speaker 1>like the slots. I don't do but I go and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of old people are there, so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's normal. It's not even a young person thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not even a Latino thing. It's everybody thing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know what it is in Florida, though, I

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<v Speaker 2>do see like because my mom likes to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the casino. She goes to the hard rock. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>go to that one too, like but saying like that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's sometimes I feel like when you're older, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the same hobbies that you did when you were younger.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a place to go. You know, they entice

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<v Speaker 2>you with gifts and stuff. They were giving my mom

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<v Speaker 2>presents and stuff to get her to come back to play.

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<v Speaker 2>She got an air fyer, she got a bottle of

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<v Speaker 2>gray Goose. I was like, my bottle of gray Goose,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, not the bottle of gray Goose. Mom like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on? She's like, oh, Mandy, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to nautch you well, okay playa who got it? And they

0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.960
<v Speaker 2>give her dinner? And I was like, girl friend, are

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<v Speaker 2>you a heart roller?

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<v Speaker 1>These casinos they don't make it any easier. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're already here struggling with a gambling addiction, minding

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<v Speaker 1>your business, all of a sudden you get a text message,

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<v Speaker 1>pull up tonight. We're giving away this to the first

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred people because I've gotten them. I go to

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<v Speaker 1>hard rock over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they do Yeah. No, they in Hollywood Florida, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what they're doing because I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the text messages and I get the emails,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, if I was in Florida right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would pull up and do some gambling.

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.439
<v Speaker 2>Or they'll give you, like tickets to a show, like

0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.480
<v Speaker 2>the one time she was like, oh, Pitbull is gonna

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.399
<v Speaker 2>be there, and I said, okay, She's like, Mannie, you

0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.199
<v Speaker 2>don't take it, bet On. You know. I eat and

0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, mom, why are they giving you free tickets?

0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, because I go and I play, and

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:29.520
<v Speaker 2>so they're looking for ways to entice you. But when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back from this break, I'm gonna tell you

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.359
<v Speaker 2>what women, what more women are getting involved with, and

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 2>what more women are playing And this is interesting to me,

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<v Speaker 2>so i'll tell you right after we take this away. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>now you know we have to talk about it because

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<v Speaker 2>now in my circles, so have you ever played that?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even believe I'm asking you this. I have

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriends who have majong and canasta groups.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard the canasta I've heard for like the Latino sense,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard it like in America. Okay, sods.

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<v Speaker 2>So my friend who is my age. She's in her forties.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a magen group, she has a Canasta group.

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<v Speaker 2>So these women are getting together two three times a

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<v Speaker 2>week now, and they're not playing for like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of money or whatever. You know, they're playing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you would even bet on that

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<v Speaker 2>because I've never played them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more for fun, yeah, she said, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>More for fun. It's more for like camaraderie. And they're

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<v Speaker 2>saying that women now are looking for these like non

0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 2>strategic forms of gaming so that they can like form

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.680
<v Speaker 2>a camaraderie or that they can like get together and you.

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Know, it's more like a community thing versus a gambling

0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 1>addiction thing. I could get down with that, right.

0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Like bingo. Okay, I'm done with bingo, I'm saying, but

0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.040
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying. Like, so for me, I look

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.359
<v Speaker 2>at like this whole big story and how it's like

0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.399
<v Speaker 2>grown out of like, yeah, you know this four. I

0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 2>feel bad for them. Anytime I see people getting divorced,

0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel terrible, you know, because you think of the

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<v Speaker 2>kids and all of this stuff.

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 1>But like when with them Carolina's he adopted her kids,

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<v Speaker 1>So how does that even work?

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, those were her two older girls, and then they

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 2>ended up having like a bunch of kids together.

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they share some too.

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, she they had their little boys, I

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<v Speaker 2>think after I think they had two little boys and

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:18.160
<v Speaker 2>a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, the ones that he adopted should be grown women.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's no custody, there's no child support, there's nothing.

0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:23.639
<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>She did file for soul custody of the children. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's like another layer that we

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<v Speaker 1>are yet to find out about with this consousiac.

0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean things are gonna keep coming out and

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>These somebody do you think somebody cheated here?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I think he adored her. I don't know.

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Papa's back in her life.

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh want her, big Papa, Big Papa.

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>That's how we got to know Nini was not with that.

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 2>That is so throwback, like old school. That's when it

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 2>was really good.

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's when that's when I got addicted to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you anything about the Atlanta Housewives that

0:22:58.720 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well, you know what I mean. Listen, you just

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 2>said addicted And if you know anybody with a gambling addiction,

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 2>and this was I mean, I just wanted to discuss

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 2>this because I had never really seen a woman being

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.160
<v Speaker 2>put out there. You know, you always hear about men.

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 2>You always hear about guys and sports and betting and

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.399
<v Speaker 2>all of these things, and this is like the first real,

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, highlighting of a woman having a gambling addiction.

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I thought, wow, you know, we we really do need

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 2>to talk about there are women out there that may

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 2>need help. So you know, you should absolutely reach out

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and get help if somebody is addicted to gambling, like

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 2>in your family, or even if you think you know, look,

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 2>now they're getting kids to do it on there on

0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.400
<v Speaker 2>the video games, Like my kids are playing NBA two

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 2>K and Noah and Asher were arguing because they had

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 2>to exchange money, I guess to get different players and

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh, I'll bet I said, guys, guys, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Whose credit card is on that game?

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Is that?

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, no, no, we don't. We don't

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 2>put any cards. In fact, we were smart about this

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'm so glad that we did this. From the

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 2>very beginning, we put like an amex, like one hundred

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>dollars card so they get there's nothing like they are

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 2>not linked to our thing, so like on accident, if

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:11.360
<v Speaker 2>they purchase like.

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's that's smart, so.

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Then yeah, so then they're not running up our credit card,

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. But I even thought like,

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.919
<v Speaker 2>look at like they're trying to get in early with

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>these kids with like Fortnite and NBA two.

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.640
<v Speaker 1>K and skins and all that stuff, right.

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, So you know, if you know somebody who

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 2>has a problem, it's a really easy number, one eight

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred Gambler. You can chat at one eight hundred gambler

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 2>chat dot org, or you can text eight hundred gam

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't want to come off as like

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 2>being preachy, but I do think that it's really important

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 2>for us to like figuring out these these conversations and

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 2>highlight you know, maybe this is something that we should

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 2>be paying more attention to as women. You know, No,

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 2>it definitely isn't.

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 1>And I was looking and the treatment resembles that of

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 1>like alcohol use or like substance abuse disorder, and I

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, they're really really treating this as something serious.

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Like you think like, oh, yeah, this person gambles. But

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>the more I read and the more I researched. I'm like,

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>this is serious. They need medication sometimes, they need counseling.

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>They even have rehab centers where you could go live

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>at for gambling addiction, Carolina.

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 2>But girl, that's that's because it's literally in your hands.

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 2>The phone is in your hands, Like, you can access

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 2>this anywhere. And that's the thing. It's like, you know,

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>with alcohol, you can go to any street corner and

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 2>walk in and get a bottle of alcohol. With gambling,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 2>you literally can be on any kind of these apps

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 2>or these sites all day long from your computer or

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 2>from your phone.

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And nobody will know you're just sitting there. You're like, yeah, yeah,

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I hear you, hear you. Meanwhile, you're gambling on your phone.

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Can't you do lotto in some states on your phone?

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:53.120
<v Speaker 1>How elarly?

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Is that all of it? And that's why I'm saying,

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, yes, all of it. That's why I was like,

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 2>holy wow, this is really like something that we should

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>just be aware of and be open to discussing.

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>For sure, because it has long term effects. I was

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>reading the like more than twenty percent of compulsive gamblers

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and the filing for bankruptcy, Caroline. You know, what bankruptcy

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 1>does to someone's life.

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I don't know a whole lot about bankruptcy,

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>but what I know is just that, like what you're

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 2>wiped out, you basically have to like begin building your

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>credit from zero from nothing, Like how do you do it?

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're I've seen people do it. You're you're wiped out.

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>The only thing that stays with you forever is your

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>student debt. Them student debts, you won't pay them regardless,

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think like IRS debt, stuff like that, But

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I think your credit is shot for like over five six,

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>seven years, Like you can't do anything once that bankruptcy

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>hits your credit. And we know you can't buy a home,

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>you can't even rent an apartment, you can't buy a car.

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.159
<v Speaker 1>And then it spills over because then you got to

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>start asking a familia.

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 3>No no no no no no no no. You never

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 3>ever lend anybody money.

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 2>You give them money with the expectation that you're never

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 2>going to get it back. Unfortunately, if they give it back,

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>then it's a bonus. Then that's a win for you.

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>But if you're giving money to somebody, you better be

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 2>prepared to take that lass You did your parents ever

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 2>talk to you about that, because my parents would always

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>say that.

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 1>No, not really. I just adopted that myself. I don't

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 1>let nobody borrow money, Carolina, I'm always broke.

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to know what I have in the

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>bank or I don't have in the bank, because, like

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you said, that's it. Unless it's like somebody very close

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to me. They're like, I need ten thousand dollars, you'll

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>get it next month, and I trust them. Yeah, but like, oh,

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>you could kiss that money goodbye. These people are not

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 1>coming back.

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I love how you said, I'm always broke. Don't come

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>knock on my door because I don't have money either.

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>It's that's me nothing, you know, because you have to.

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>It sucks, but sometimes you have to put that narrative

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>forward when you have friends and families who are always

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>looking for money to be buy.

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 2>That's like I had a nanny and I know we

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>have to wrap it up soon, but I do have

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>to say this, Like I had a nanny back in

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>the day who I absolutely adored. Oh my gosh, she

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 2>was so amazing. She had family back home. They were

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>always calling her la like one needed.

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Dentist, expensive girl, help.

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>One needed her car broke down and uberg and and

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>so I finally told her, I said, I said, why

0:28:53.920 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>don't you tell them that you you're not making as

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>much money, except tell them that we reduced your pay

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>so that you can save your own mind. We had

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 2>to strategize because get.

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>The culture, how to get the boos of, how to

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>get the vultures off my back?

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, people are vultures. I said it get band

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 2>sung seeing the netto like what like, what is you're

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 2>out here helping me raise my two little boys. This

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>is way when the kids were way younger. And I said,

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 2>you're you're not sitting out here watching TV and hanging out,

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 2>You're working, you know. I felt like protective of her,

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and I feel bad for encouraging her to lie. But

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I told her, I said, if you don't lie, you

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 2>will go home with nothing.

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you coached her. And because that's how I

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>lived my life, Carolina. That's why I said, somebody very

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>very young. If it's a food, I will always give

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you the money. But if you're trying to go on vacations,

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to buy bags, if I see you

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>flexing on the gram, do not hit me for a penny.

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, wait a minute, how are you going to go

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 2>on all of these occasions and then be asking me

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 2>for money so that I'm going to see it on

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>social media basically a week from now and then.

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna yeah.

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 2>And then by the way, if you got a better

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>bag than me and you're borrowing money for me, I

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>resent that say, like, wait a minute, I'm out here

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>using my target Hunter bag that I got from the

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Drop three years ago. You know what I mean, like

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 2>cause I like, I like to use my stuff until

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>it's all worn out right and now to the but

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be out here, so you know, I

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>think that, like this was a really good episode for

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 2>us to talk about and and just basically give people

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>the heads up. Watch your people, maybe check in, like

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>if you see one of your friends or one of

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>your family members that's constantly like, you know, playing. Oh

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, did you see that over the summer,

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>CBS is gonna start this game show.

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Called because it sounds like something I might watch.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like a Mexican game show that they based it

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 2>off off of, and I think that it's going to

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be on CBS.

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Cbhicano and it's gonna why wash it and

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>bring it to America?

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no. The guy from Jane the Virgin

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be honest.

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, good good, Okay, A Lisa Latino is gonna host.

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. His name is Jamie Camille. I think it is and.

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>HEMI I know exactly is it?

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Yeah, that's j I mean Jamie come in.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>You know why watched his name?

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Right? I sure did. I didn't watch j in the Virgin,

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, JB it is, well, you know what, look

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I like it. I feel like it's gonna be something good.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we can watch it with the family. And that's

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what.

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>It brings us to the forefront. I'm always down for

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>something that that stays true to our culture, our roots.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Does it make us look crazy and just puts us

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>in people's faces. I love when Latinos are in peoples.

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I was so obsessed with Bad Bunny,

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>because it was just like, here we are, and you

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>can't make us go away.

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>You can't deny us. Well there you guys have it.

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>When you see Lori Loka this summer, you're gonna think

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>of me calling himeen Janie.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly well, you know what, hit us up on

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<v Speaker 2>the Gram and hopefully you got something out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know that sometimes we're you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>have fun episodes. We have episodes that are a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more thought provoking. Some episodes, you know, that are

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of more substance. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we're here to do, just to have the conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the main reasons gambling is so popular is

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<v Speaker 1>because people see it as a social activity. But we

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<v Speaker 1>live in a world where you can socialize in so

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<v Speaker 1>many different ways and do so many different things that

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<v Speaker 1>if you drive by the casino you think you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go in there and do some socializing, kill that

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<v Speaker 1>idea and keep driving right past that casino.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen, save that money, I want to said it nao

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<v Speaker 2>and always always in.

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