WEBVTT - Stop Kidding Around

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<v Speaker 1>This is How Men Think? And Gavin and I heard

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<v Speaker 1>radio podcasts Everybody Thought, bar Bosha b A. Milla, hosts

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<v Speaker 1>of American Ninja Warrior. Uh. I'm filling in for Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>and Gavin. I am now the guest host of How

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<v Speaker 1>Men Think. And this podcast is so interesting to me

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<v Speaker 1>because it really does do a deep dive into our

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<v Speaker 1>thought process. And today part of that thought process is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be Alfonso Rivieriro and good friend Jerry O'Connell. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to mention, we have some help the supernanny Joe Frost.

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<v Speaker 1>She's in UH today and we're gonna have a discussion

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<v Speaker 1>on how to adjust to the new normal, especially at home,

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<v Speaker 1>UH with school coming back into play back to school.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's excited. What does that look like? I'm interested. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got four kids of my own. I know Jerry's got

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<v Speaker 1>his kids, Alfonso's got his kids. What do we do?

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<v Speaker 1>How are we doing it? We're gonna hear from them shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>It Right now, let's bring in my two good friends,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry O'Connell and Alfonso. Jerry, Dude, what's up, Alfonso? How

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Brother? I'm doing good man. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you just came off the golf course. I think every

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<v Speaker 1>time I see you're always golf think I listen, I've

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<v Speaker 1>actually I haven't even been to my golf course in

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half months. Oh is that right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, why is that. Well we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>that during the interview, but I went, I've been all

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<v Speaker 1>over the country in my RV and haven't played really

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<v Speaker 1>any golf at home. I'm actually gonna go tomorrow for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in over two and a half months

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<v Speaker 1>to play golf. I'm gonna take my boy with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good, all right, Well, that's good. May happen

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<v Speaker 1>having a little bit of fun out there, Jerry? What

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<v Speaker 1>about you? Nothing? I actually, um, I am taking golf lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be ready. I'm trying to get myself ready for

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<v Speaker 1>or when I go out with Alfonso, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>embarrass myself totally when I'm out there. But nothing, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting at home watching you on Instagram, watching me

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. Well look, let's dive right into this. You know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone kind of you know, knows that school is getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to come back in and people often how what's

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<v Speaker 1>this new normal look like? For especially for fathers um

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<v Speaker 1>and for you to look, you guys are big time,

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<v Speaker 1>prime time celebrities. I gotta just ask you guys, straight

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<v Speaker 1>off the top. Do you guys cook at home? I

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<v Speaker 1>know you know, Alfonso, you've been in and out r

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<v Speaker 1>V at home. Are you guys cooking at home? Um? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>um when I've been home. But to you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really good at breakfast, so I'll do breakfast. Breakfast is

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<v Speaker 1>something that I can do, but my wife is so

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<v Speaker 1>much better at it that my kids. If I actually

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm making breakfast, I hear the all like you know, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta feel that way. But every once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while I give my wife a break and she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, she stays in bed a little

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<v Speaker 1>longer with the baby, and and I'll come down and

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<v Speaker 1>cook for the boys. And it's like, you know, I'm eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little turkey bacon, you know, just basic, basic, basic,

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<v Speaker 1>No turkey bacon, turkey bacon. But what about pancakes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife does the pancakes. My wife, My wife does pancakes.

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<v Speaker 1>She does the Swedish pancakes, is a regular pancakes. She

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<v Speaker 1>does the pancake. So the kids really like the pancakes.

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<v Speaker 1>I can do. I can do French toast. Okay, but good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're not really into it as much. So

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, So I don't do a lot of the cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife does most of it. But um, during during

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<v Speaker 1>this pandemic, we've been doing it in our r V

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<v Speaker 1>in different cities all over the country. So she's had

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<v Speaker 1>to really up the quick RV cooking game, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to cook for an hour in the

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<v Speaker 1>r V, you don't really get you know, super specific

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<v Speaker 1>and start getting creative. It's like, okay, what are the basics?

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<v Speaker 1>What can we eat? What's quite? And she rocks it

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<v Speaker 1>out right. So the bob Evans, you know, mac and

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<v Speaker 1>cheese and and and mash potatoes have been great for

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<v Speaker 1>us because she can knock it out. Me. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not so much. I know too, You're you're on that

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<v Speaker 1>bob Evans stuff too, Jerry, Listen. I know I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're asking about our our culinary skills at bar because

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<v Speaker 1>I do follow you on social media and if I recall,

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<v Speaker 1>you posted a recipe for your vegan pancakes a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago. I recall, um, they looked amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>unlike you. I'm not very good in the kitchen. Hence

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<v Speaker 1>why I think Bob Evans and I work so well together.

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<v Speaker 1>They are ready to eat all real ingredients. I popped

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<v Speaker 1>them in the microwave, and my children have mac and cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>mashed potatoes boom right there. Because I am now now

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<v Speaker 1>that they're distance learning, I am now their cafeteria chef,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm in charge of their school. So you just

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<v Speaker 1>you look it up with the Bob Evans in the

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<v Speaker 1>boom boom boom, and they go, hey, guys, now get

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<v Speaker 1>back to your zoom class. Exactly. It's um, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so easy for me. And also I'm ashamed

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<v Speaker 1>to admit I am not the vegan pancake culinary expert

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<v Speaker 1>that you are a far you well, no judgment. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds great. I'm hungry too right now, and that sounds great.

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<v Speaker 1>You might actually convert me. Well, my wife, my wife

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<v Speaker 1>is of Swedish heritage, so she makes the Swedish pancakes also,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she rolls them up with the butter and

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<v Speaker 1>little powdered sugar on there. So there's and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>make them make the regular pancakes. Will make banana pancakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Will make blueberry banana pancakes, so she she rocks it

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<v Speaker 1>out me. The Swede panca. I've never heard of that before.

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<v Speaker 1>The pcakes. The Swediest pancakes are like paper thin, so

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<v Speaker 1>you actually need a grittle to make it all. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't make them in a pan or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta need a full griddle. And you make them.

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<v Speaker 1>She makes a gluten free one and it's like super

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<v Speaker 1>paper thin and you roll them up. Um, you can

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<v Speaker 1>put it's like a create. It's basically like a crepe,

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<v Speaker 1>except of a pancake, and so it tastes a little

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<v Speaker 1>different than a create. Create doesn't really have the flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do they still have some of that flavor? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>look for all the listeners. For those of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>who actually want to get more information on Bob Evans Farm,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can go and find that information on bob

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<v Speaker 1>Evans Grocery dot com. Um, I'm sure people are going

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<v Speaker 1>there right now. That sounds pretty good. We're talking about fatherhood,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and fatherhood has been challenging, I know, at

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<v Speaker 1>least for me because you know with four kids funds.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have four. I've got twins Jerry, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you've got twins. What's been the adjustment, um or

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest adjustment you guys have had to make during

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<v Speaker 1>this time, because I think especially I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>husband and wives can kind of go at each other.

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<v Speaker 1>For me personal story, in the first two or three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like super Dad, trying to do everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>then after a while I just was like and I

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<v Speaker 1>just hey, maybe yeah, you take this because it was hectic.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what to do. And so now preparing

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<v Speaker 1>for the new school year, I'm trying to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with some more plans, but I wanted to hear kind

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<v Speaker 1>of some of you guys plans on how you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just for this new staying at home and distant learning. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm actually one of those people that I view life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very mental about life, right, So what I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do is recognize, Okay, this is our new normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's figure out how we do this for the long distance. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not gonna be the guy who comes in

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<v Speaker 1>and goes I am super Dad for two weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm out. Um. I I want to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a stable, steady flow through the summer through all of this, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and so my wife and I have agreed that I

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<v Speaker 1>think the best way to do that is to find

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we do and keep a normal pattern

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<v Speaker 1>every day so it doesn't feel very different. Then eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>once we reached the point where that was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half months old, we then said, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to switch this up and we bought an RV.

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<v Speaker 1>So we bought the r V and went out. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I've driven over twelve thousand miles. Dead serious, So we

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<v Speaker 1>broke out. We were like out of l A, like

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<v Speaker 1>l A. The numbers are going crazy, the world is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of opening up, but I don't believe that we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be okay. So we were like, let's break out

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<v Speaker 1>of here, let's go, let's go see family, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>R Ving is the is the easiest social distancing way

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<v Speaker 1>to travel. You are by yourself, you never need to

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<v Speaker 1>be around anybody. You go into the truck stop, you

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<v Speaker 1>put your thing in. There's actually apps that you can

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<v Speaker 1>do where you you're like, I'm at pump twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>and fill it up, get back in and keep it moving. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing you ever have huh, expensive gas for that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's diesel, so you know, it's it's it's in

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<v Speaker 1>some places it's more expensive. In some places it's cheaper,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on where you are in the country. But but

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<v Speaker 1>we we we just went and we and we loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we got into the rhythm of I always

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<v Speaker 1>said to her, you handle inside. I got outside, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So anything that we're doing outside, anything that was like

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<v Speaker 1>physical with the RV, all of that was me. She

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<v Speaker 1>handled all the inside, most of the cooking, most of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, we both clean, but um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the handling of the stuff inside. She got about what

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<v Speaker 1>about the zoom meetings for for classes and and all

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<v Speaker 1>the educational stuff. So typically at most r V parks

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<v Speaker 1>they've got WiFi, so you can tap right into the WiFi.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing is is that my RV actually has

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<v Speaker 1>a four g um actual hot spot. So I as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I have cellular, I have a hot spot,

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<v Speaker 1>and basically I have WiFi that everyone can connect to.

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<v Speaker 1>So Alfonso's WiFi in his RV is way better than

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<v Speaker 1>my WiFi at home as loud as you've got cellular.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as you've got cellular, the WiFi works great.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for the kids. We you know, we're streaming in

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<v Speaker 1>the r V. We've got WiFi, we can get on computer,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we are a mobile unit traveling around the country

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<v Speaker 1>and it was fantastic for all of us. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>back in l A because now we're back at work

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<v Speaker 1>and we're filming a f V again, So I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. But I have like a month that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be off. We're wrapping up in the mid

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<v Speaker 1>September and we're gone. We are out of here again.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go away for a month, go traveling. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever we need to go anywhere. We're gonna just make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the places that we go have four G

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<v Speaker 1>capability UM, and we'll be we'll be doing schooling and

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<v Speaker 1>social distancing all of that while still not being stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the house because we just don't know how long

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be. And for us, we felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it was super important to create a world that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be happy in. UM. Unfortunately, not to create

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<v Speaker 1>that world for my kids, you know, to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to buy an RV, to be able to go do that. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I think the important message, though, Alphonso, is

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<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about is the ability to adapt. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, regardless of what their finances as your capability is,

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<v Speaker 1>you had something that you were able to adapt and

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<v Speaker 1>it was sustainable. And and so I guess I asked you, Jerry, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your how did you adapt and what was

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable for you? Because you know, I think I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at myself right now. I did something that wasn't sustainable.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to overdrive to try to compensate for all

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<v Speaker 1>of this hectic stuff, and like you know, new information

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<v Speaker 1>coming out, and so I try to go an old

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<v Speaker 1>drive and then I got burnt out. It wasn't sustainable.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I just telling myself sitting in my office

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<v Speaker 1>watching the news, feeling like I was depressed and just

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<v Speaker 1>getting all the update, Well what should we do? Should

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<v Speaker 1>we overbuy? And do we done by it? It was

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. What's been the way that you've kept

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<v Speaker 1>things sustainable? Jerry? Well, my family and I did rent

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<v Speaker 1>in RV for four days and we drove to the

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<v Speaker 1>settlement four miles. We we went to the southern tip

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<v Speaker 1>of Yosemite. And after four days, I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>not going well. We got out of their movie, so

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have I don't have the bond that Alfonso's

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<v Speaker 1>family has with each other. Obviously. UM no, if the

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anything I've learned, UM during these last five months,

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<v Speaker 1>is I really have to have patience as a dad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm you know, I'm the dad, and um

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm freaking out, um in my household, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I have a right to be. I when

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<v Speaker 1>I got married to my wife, I never thought I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be spending this much time with her. When I had

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<v Speaker 1>children with my wife, I never thought I would be

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<v Speaker 1>spending this much time with them. I mean, we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of joking, but I'm not. Normally, I have a job,

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<v Speaker 1>I go somewhere. Uh, I can go out to a restaurant,

0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I can go meet my buddies at a bar. I

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<v Speaker 1>can go play golf with Alfonse. So um, really all

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<v Speaker 1>of those things are not open right now, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with these three people in my house. And listen,

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<v Speaker 1>It's very easy when your kid comes in and screaming about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not being able to get onto a WiFi,

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<v Speaker 1>onto a zoom class. You know, it's so easy to

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<v Speaker 1>say like, um, you know, stop yelling at me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why you're you're kicking on the zoo class.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like I'm not like a zoom experts um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I like, I don't work at best by

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<v Speaker 1>What what do you think? You think? Geek squad um?

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<v Speaker 1>What was it? What was your first response when your

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<v Speaker 1>kids say, hey, Dad, I want to change my background?

0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.800
<v Speaker 1>My daughter asked me, that's like, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>what that is, Like, what are you talking about? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you change? All my friends have backgrounds. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I've never even heard of m until the year.

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<v Speaker 1>You've having a seventeen year old, right, so she's the one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like if I need to know how to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hey, Sienna, can you show me how to

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<v Speaker 1>do this? And my wife is really good at that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Listen. The beauty of all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>basically being able. Like I bought a new RV. New

0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:22.680
<v Speaker 1>RVs typically have the most problems, right, An older RV

0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.840
<v Speaker 1>actually is typically they've gone through all the problems. I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten them fixed. Right. So I went into this knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that things were going to happen. We were going to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with people who were going to be rude. We

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna deal with racism because we went through areas

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<v Speaker 1>of the South and places in the Midwest that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not school. We were dealing with, you know, the r

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<v Speaker 1>V having trouble. At the end of the day, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, we're not going to allow this to affect

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<v Speaker 1>our energy. We are going to blow it off the

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder and keep on moving. And I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying that I'm perfect and anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>I look at it and I say that is what

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<v Speaker 1>we all need to be able to do during this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing is in our control. We've got to let go

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<v Speaker 1>of certain things that are simply not controllable and accept that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>these things are going to be difficult. These things are hard,

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<v Speaker 1>but how do we roll with it? And for me

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<v Speaker 1>as the guy, as the man, as the man of

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<v Speaker 1>the house, I'm like, well, if I set the tone,

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<v Speaker 1>then everybody else can follow. Right now, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>how do you move that forward? Because there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who are you know, who are listening

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<v Speaker 1>in and they're saying, Okay, I need to now learn

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<v Speaker 1>from what I did last year. What are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you learned from last year that you go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that didn't work. This is what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>In for for example, my kids fitness levels dropped. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're eating habits got nasty. I mean because and myself included,

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<v Speaker 1>because I constantly was going to the fridge either out

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<v Speaker 1>of emotional boredom on a stress. My kids feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they're locked up. Where you play outside, Okay, go real

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<v Speaker 1>quick and ride your back around the thing. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know we're just making stuff up. But now like for

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<v Speaker 1>for for example, I am now like creating as as

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<v Speaker 1>we're speaking now, as soon as we get off this

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<v Speaker 1>off this podcast, I'm actually creating a PE list for

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<v Speaker 1>the entire school years, so I know that the fitness

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<v Speaker 1>level no matter what during PE time, there's no I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not taking any meetings, I'm not having any work. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing anything unless they come pay me to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I want my kids and I want my kids in

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<v Speaker 1>your gym class. I will send mine to the school

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<v Speaker 1>of pech. I think, I think what you're saying is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely perfectly right off Like I think you're you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>creating a system, and that is the way we all

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<v Speaker 1>function at least for us in our house, is the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when it's just like well, we're just gonna roll

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<v Speaker 1>with it. It doesn't always work the best. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what doing. We're getting up in the morning. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take our showers, we're gonna brush our teeth. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go downstairs. We're gonna have breakfast. We're gonna zoom class

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<v Speaker 1>for two hours. Then we're gonna get up. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go outside. We're gonna run around. When we're outside running around,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do this, this, this, this, and this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna come back in. We're gonna do that again.

0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.520
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna got on a zoom call. Then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get off of that. Having a complete schedule, we actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a board and we write down everything that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to do, whether it's speech classes or whatever. It's

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<v Speaker 1>on the board. So now you're not actually being the

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy. The key to it is it's on the schedule.

0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.760
<v Speaker 1>It's already on the board. We know we have to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, and I know that it stinks right now

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<v Speaker 1>that you've got to do it, but it's on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>You make the board the bad guy, and you sense it.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course you know as they get older, they're

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<v Speaker 1>like you wrote the board we're talking about, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping them on a schedule. Kids like consistency, right, Why

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<v Speaker 1>do kids, you know, at a younger age not get

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<v Speaker 1>upset when they have to go to school because it's consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>They know they gotta do it. This isn't this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a choice creating those systems. It's exactly familiarity with things

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<v Speaker 1>that they're comfortable doing. If you create exercises in your backyard. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost ten pounds over COVID right, like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>saw it looks very gave you. Jerry just gave you

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<v Speaker 1>that look like come on, man, like I put on

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was a look of I'm ashamed right

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<v Speaker 1>now because I show you what I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>show you what's happening under here. You know what I

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<v Speaker 1>call it. I call it Corona Chubb. That's what I've

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<v Speaker 1>called it. I've called I've put on six pack there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like now it's like a one pack now. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was any but any facial expressions I was making

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<v Speaker 1>was out of jealousy, saying here like, come on, I

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<v Speaker 1>lost ten pounds and it's just simply one wife's cooking

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I don't get to go to in and out,

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't get to go to my favorite restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>that put a boatload of butter and other stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>it that like is going to make you gain weight,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she was being consistent with breakfast, was this, lunch?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this dinner? Is this? And different? You know, switching

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<v Speaker 1>it up of course, but it was controlled so to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then getting up in every day when we get

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<v Speaker 1>to a new RV site, we go for a walk,

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<v Speaker 1>get the kids out, we're gonna go. They hop on

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<v Speaker 1>their scooters, We go for walks, we walk around the place,

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<v Speaker 1>we get up, we do some exercise, we went a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, we throw the ball, We're doing stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're moving every day. And that's just consistent. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that every day in your home living, that

0:19:55.680 --> 0:20:00.359
<v Speaker 1>consistency turns into positivity. So, Jerry, what what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fun activities are you doing with your kids to get

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<v Speaker 1>them moving or just just to kind of break the

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<v Speaker 1>monotony of being at home, because I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>other part that was difficult, is that I think my

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:13.720
<v Speaker 1>kids got tired of seeing our four walls, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just like, uh, do we have to again anything you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing differently? First of all, at Bar. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, if you do do a PE class for

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<v Speaker 1>kids in school, please put it on your Instagram, send

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<v Speaker 1>us all the link. Let's all join up. This would

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<v Speaker 1>be amazing if you had like a large PE class

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<v Speaker 1>that you were running it. I mean, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>definitely into that. It's tough to get my kids moving

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<v Speaker 1>around a little bit, you know. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's also why I'm so grateful to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>partnering with Bob Evans these days, is that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're responsible for every meal at home now and if

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<v Speaker 1>not for Bob Evans and they're ready to eat you know,

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<v Speaker 1>meals with made with real ingredients. Um, i'd uh, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be up the creek man. You know, I'm gonna jump

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<v Speaker 1>on that because I can tell you real talk. My

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<v Speaker 1>grocery bills I mean just went, I mean just it

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<v Speaker 1>just we blew up the whole budget. The budget was

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<v Speaker 1>just blown out because it was hard to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what the new pacing of eating was and

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.760
<v Speaker 1>not having stuff there, and we lost time because we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hungry, we gotta make something because we weren't used

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<v Speaker 1>to that that that flow where you know, at home

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<v Speaker 1>when that's cool. We're not worried about making anything. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we have to try to come up with the menu

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<v Speaker 1>and try to create all of this to kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, keep the kids at bay and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's these long stretch, but any other fun activities you

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<v Speaker 1>might be doing with the kids, or any great ideas

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<v Speaker 1>like just to kind of break up you know, I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm speaking to an elite athlete right now. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say I did attempt to put

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<v Speaker 1>my children into like a soccer camp before all this. Um,

0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I have two daughters and you know, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>see if they they had any athletic ability whatso whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I put them in a soccer camp and the

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<v Speaker 1>coach called me up, and uh, I was like why

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 1>is the what why do you call me up? Coach?

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:15.119
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, I want to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>about your daughter. And I was like, wow, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is how it happens, Like this is in my head.

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you your your your kids starts playing

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<v Speaker 1>soccer and then the coach says, I need to work

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<v Speaker 1>with her alone. I think she's she can really take

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<v Speaker 1>it to the next level. I think we have the

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 1>next Mia Ham on her hands here and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll be driving her all over the country

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<v Speaker 1>in our different tournaments and stuff. I can't believe this.

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Like she's gonna represent the United States. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>really great. And the coach said, your daughter shows no

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:46.120
<v Speaker 1>interest in soccer whatsoever. I feel bad taking your money

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.119
<v Speaker 1>and having her come to this class all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, wow, coach, I don't pay you to hear

0:22:52.720 --> 0:23:00.080
<v Speaker 1>your opinion. Just keep her alive, her run her. That

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 1>escalated quickly. I mean, it was a precipitous drop. That's

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the balloon. It one. The thing is the thing

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 1>for us is that like and I'm I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really lucky. My two boys are UM are Jeff athletic,

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and they want to run around and they're literally outdoors

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to, you know, run around and do as much

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.239
<v Speaker 1>as they can all the time. UM My daughter was

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:34.680
<v Speaker 1>UM on the road to being an Olympic gymnasts. UM

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and now she's seventeen. She heard her back, so she

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:38.439
<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to do it anymore. But the meeting, the

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>minute that happened, she switched over into dance. UM, so

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, motivated physically, Um, my kids are so for me,

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's then kind of focusing that energy, trying to

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>just make sure that that energy gets focused into learning,

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 1>into developing skills and becoming better at whatever they're they're

0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>interested in. Um, I'm probably this afternoon gonna take my

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 1>my kid out to the driving range and we're gonna

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>go hit golf balls, right just because he wants to

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 1>go do it. He just he's all in so um.

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<v Speaker 1>But but in terms of advice, I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to make it fun. I think every person

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<v Speaker 1>who's ever made it to the elite in any sport,

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in anything in the world, it's not other people pushing

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you to do it. You gotta find those things that

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>they enjoy, you know, have them try everything. People you

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>used to laugh at me all the time because it's like, dude,

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>you do everything, And I'm like, yeah, I do everything.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:42.879
<v Speaker 1>The reason why I do everything is because I tried

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<v Speaker 1>everything right and I didn't just try and like I

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>did it one day and I was like, yeah, I

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:49.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't like it. I was like, no, no, I'm gonna

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 1>learn how to play baseball. I played baseball. I'm gonna

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>learn how to play basketball. I played basketball. I'm gonna

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>learn how to race cars. I race cars. I'm gonna

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>learn how to play golf. I play golf like I

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>do it. I learned how to play racquetball. I learned

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>how to play tennis. I learned. I learned everything and

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 1>learned how to dance. I learned how to sing. I

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>learned how to act. I learned how to direct. I

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.479
<v Speaker 1>learn how to light. I learned how to write right. Like,

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>just keep learning, just keep trying, and don't make it

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a short run. Figure it out, do it just enough.

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Just motivating our kids to just try things and to

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:29.640
<v Speaker 1>experience things is the key. The one thing I've said

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in all of my life. I do this all the time.

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I say, I don't want to read about something in

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<v Speaker 1>a history book or in a geography book. I want

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 1>to go see it. I want to go experience it.

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I want my kids to go what does Mount Rushmore

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<v Speaker 1>look like? And not decide to go to a magazine

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>or a book or on the internet to look at pictures.

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I want them to go to our picture library and go, oh,

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>when we were at Mount Rushmore, this was cool because

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.959
<v Speaker 1>of this, this, that net because they experience it, and

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that experience experience really sticks with them. It's something that

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.959
<v Speaker 1>is cemented in them. I guess the last one for

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<v Speaker 1>me would be for both of you guys. Jerry, I'll

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>start with you, is how do you challenge your kids?

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Because what I've seen and what I know to be true,

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 1>is that when you're with your kids that long, you

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>start to see deficiencies areas that maybe the schools can't

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>see because oftentimes when you you send your kids to school,

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you come home and you've got the homework

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 1>that they're dealing with. You see that. But I'm seeing

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>other things and my kids that I didn't know really existed.

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to challenge them. So I guess what's

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<v Speaker 1>the best play because I know I Fonso was talking

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>about trying to find a way like athletically, what what

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>a kid likes? How do you challenge your kid in

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a way that is productive? Um, you know, sometimes feelings

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>get hurt. How do you do that? And You've got

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>twins so I know and I both have shared that

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>in common. I find screaming at them helps if you

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>really like get in their face and you really yell

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and serious teasing, making fun of them, teasing them, finding

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 1>out what their insecurities are really like, get hammering them

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>on those These are jokes everyone. Um I guess it's

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>like Fonso said, just find something that they also enjoy,

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, like I mean Alfonse, I was

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>just talking about it. With the golf too. I got

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple of lessons for my girls. I was really

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I saw that photo of Tiger catting for his son

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was like last week, I was like, girls

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>were taking some golf lessons. We're getting out there and

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>they're just not feeling it. And you can't force you

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>can't force him to do with what they kid do. Hey,

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>act bar, I gotta say that photo you posted with

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>your son and Kobe the other day was very emotional.

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 1>That was bring the kids and athletes and stuff. I

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 1>mean that was crazy. Yeah, you know, those those types

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>of moments you never forget. You know. Obviously yesterday was

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>um or when I posted that Ko Kobe day and

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>just thinking about you know, him taking that time after

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 1>he kept his word during the game that yeah, I'll

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>come get that photo with my son, and it was

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>just one of those things I'll never forget. So that's

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>why I posted it um, I'll find some what about you.

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>We're out of time here, but I wanted to get

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on how you challenge your kids to be

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the absolute best when you're around them for so long,

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>especially when you see weaknesses you know academically, how do

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you challenge them to get better in that? So? I

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>like to utilize UM. When I used to race cars professionally,

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>there were two trains of thought, right. The first thought

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>was where are you good on the track and where

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>are you bad on the track? Make the areas on

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the track better and try to be just overall good.

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And then the other thought was, don't worry about the

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>places you're bad on the track. Make sure you're the

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>best on the track in a specific area, because if

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you can just make it through while in your bad areas,

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you will really succeed in the areas that you are great.

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>So I don't try to focus on the areas where

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>they're where they're deficient. I try to really push the

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>areas that they are great at and really lift those up. Now,

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>by lifting those up, you create a difference between what

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>they're really good at and what they're not if they

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>have it inside themselves, and that kind of internal motivation.

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>They'll want to lift the bottom and get it closer

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to what you've excelled at. So to me, I'm pushing

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>on all the areas that they're great. Let's just focus here,

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>focus and be better, be better, be better, be better,

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>be better, be great, be great. Because they desire that

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>they want to be great there, then that ego lifts

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the things that they're not so great at.

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>They'll help lift that up to be closer to the

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>areas in which they're great at. Um. Did you also

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>did motivational speaking as well? Did you say that I've done.

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.479
<v Speaker 1>I've done a little. But but the thing for me

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>is that that is the that is. You know, we

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>all have to have a theory of our lives. How

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>do we function and what is our theory about how

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>do we succeed in life? Right? Jerry and I know

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>this very well. In acting, one person gets the job.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>So if I'm a chubby, short guy, I don't need

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>to work on my muscle skills because I'm not going

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>to get a role as a big hunk in an

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>action film. I'm a little chubby guy. I need to

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>be funny, so I will be the funniest little chunky

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>guy on the planet, because that's where I'm actually going

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>to succeed. And then once I succeed there, I'll lift,

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll get shape, I'll do that. But be great at

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the things that you're great at it, don't be mediocre

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>at everything. Yeah, I love that. I love that because

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm hearing from that is operating in your strength.

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I noticed with my own kids. I

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>try to get them to operate in their own strength. Um.

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I try to encourage them. I try to identify the

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>negative talk because you hear that, you know, when they

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.719
<v Speaker 1>get off the computer, if they're frustrated from a lesson.

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I try to identify the negative talk and then encourage

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>them because I always say, my mom told me this

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot, is that your words are very powerful. When

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>it comes out of your mouth is usually your state

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of mind. And so trying to reverse that and get

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>them to see the best of themselves. But guys, this

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>is great. Um, you know, people are getting a real

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>thought or real look into how men think. So thank you, guys,

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Alfonso for giving your time. Twelve thousand miles. That's

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of miles. Now I gotta go look at

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>my budget and see if I can at least get

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>six thousand miles in our because that's pretty dope. I'm

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie, that's pretty dope. Yeah, we were about

0:31:57.920 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to put a bunch more. We put a bunch more

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>all there each bob Et Grocery dot com foods along

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<v Speaker 1>the way. All right, thank you guys so much. All right,

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>so we're back, and let me tell you that was

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>such a great conversation with Alfonso and Jerry. I learned

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>so much. We're so we're so much alike, but we're

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>so different and so that was cool. But uh, we've

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>got a real treat coming up next. You guys know

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>her as the Supernanny, but Joe Frost is just an

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>absolutely an amazing mind and amazing supernanny. Joe, are you

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>with us? Appreciate Thank you for having me. Yeah, no problem,

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean you are v Joe Frost. Obviously the Weld

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>earned title of the Supernanny. What would you say the parents,

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the parents who are listening, UM is probably maybe if

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you have an advisor to on how to start the

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>new school year, because I think that's probably the most

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>important thing. A lot of people are anticipating what is

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>this year going to look like? Last year kind of

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a last school year rather was just kind of a

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>wash because we were all kind of reactive. How do

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you become proactive in this new school year? I mean,

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, I think you have to which is

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>a tough one for American families. Having spent many, many

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>years around the world helping different families. Um, I think

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you've got to lower your expectations. I think we in

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>our mind want to be running the gamut of how

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>things were before and psychologically being in a space to

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>be able to accept where we are at right now,

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>where the limitations are. But what we can do is

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a mindset that basically allows us to look at the

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>cup of right what can we do rather than feeling

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>like everything's being taken away from you and the walls

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>are getting smaller and small are so lowering your expectations

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Number one is important. Um, with respect to you know,

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>what can we do in the day? How does that

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>schedule work? Because I can tell you having spoken to

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 1>families around the world regarding school, it's not ideal for

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>any of us. You know, it's not a perfect picture.

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>With respects to how those schedules bode with parents that

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>are homeworking. Um with the amount of different kids of

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>ages that parents have and the work that's going to

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 1>be expected, Like you know, you want to pray right

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.240
<v Speaker 1>now that you hope that you taught those life skills

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>because if not, you're going to have a nine year

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>old that's going to be calling you like a five

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>year old right needing to do work right now. And

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it's teaching us, you know, it's it's in a way

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I see it like like an athlete. Right there's the

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>endurance and the stamina and the moments where you push

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>yourself a little bit more because you're having those breakthrough

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>moments right to excel. And right now, that's what parents

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>are doing up here. You know they're finding it tough

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and there, you know, they're feeling like they're nearly at

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the finished line and they're being told not just a

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit more, just a little bit more, just a

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. And that's painstaking because right now we've

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>got a whole heap of parents crying, yeah, thinking that

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a finishing line maybe here, but we can't see it.

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>There's no exploration date. So I would say lower expectations

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>be realistic with what you can manage. It's not going

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>to be perfect. We cannot reach that. However, our duty

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>first and foremost is to look after our kids, keep

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>them alive, keep them safe, make sure that you have

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>a routine in place that it's going to support the

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>schedule that allows you to be able to pace yourself

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>during the week. But because if you don't, then you

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>don't get enough sleep, Then you get irritable. Then arguments happen.

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Then the kids a moody for every little thing, Like

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.399
<v Speaker 1>you cut the toast in triangles and it's not good

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>enough now they want it in square Like your teenager

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>is arguing with you and all of them, you know,

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you're like, I'm arguing with my

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>liven year old here, like what is going on right right?

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>And you're like, what is going on? Like I just

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>sound like I'm in a playground right now, um, And

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you find yourself caught in this tornado of mayhem rather

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>than a moment where you can stay grounded, stay grounded

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and focused on what's the objective. The objective is not

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 1>to complete everything perfect. The objective is to be able

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to pace, have a routine that supports the family, come

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>together if you can at lunchtimes and meal times so

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>that you can connect. Don't spin a thousand plates again,

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:11.439
<v Speaker 1>we'll give each other medals or look a thousand plates. Joe.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I love this what you're saying, because that's exactly all

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the things that my wife and I we did. And

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I think lowering the expectation. And it's hard because I'm

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>a former professional athlete and you know, I do tend

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to set the bar high because I've been trained that way.

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, you want something, you gotta go for it.

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think what happens is is that it not

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>only stresses my wife and I out, but I think

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>it stresses out the kids because there's certain things where

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>you just are not going to be able to do

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>and you have to do you do you want, But

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you do understand what that mindset, which it's not a

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>weak it's not a weak it's not a weak mindset.

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Because for me, hearing that and initially when you set

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that lowering the bar as an athlete, I hear that,

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and as a man, I hear that is Okay, I'm

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>giving my kids less. I'm not giving them the best.

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not pushing them to be the top. But if

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.959
<v Speaker 1>you're actually saying to actually, if you lower that expectation

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.240
<v Speaker 1>and you're not trying to throw so much on their plate,

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you're able to get the most out of this entire

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 1>situation homing, you know, school, and it is being okay

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>with your best right. The reality is that we're in

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>an environment that is not conducive to us reaching what

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>we were before. So that's like somebody saying to you, hey, um,

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're going to have an egg and spoon

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>race right now, and your legs are gonna be tight,

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>but hey, the rest won't be. You're like, well, how

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>am I going to compete and run as fast as

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 1>the rest? You know? And the reality is is that

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't expect to be able to meet what you

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>did last year based on the confinement of what is

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>expected of you. Parents right now are expected to be

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 1>the puppeteer, the entertainer, the teacher, and the parent, and

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, the person who you know is

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>working at home holding down enough dialogue to keep your

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>relationship together when you've already spoke four thousand words and

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you're done. And on top of that, now let's talk

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>about redefining mascularity because you just spoke about being a

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>man and saying, I don't want to think that it's weak.

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I need to remind myself that lawing my expectation is

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>not a weak thing as a man. And to me,

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>that talks to a bigger topic with respect to as

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 1>we are finding out more about ourselves and and the

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>strength that we have, and it is forcing us to

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>have communication that we can no longer use excuses for

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>as in, we're too busy at work, we don't have

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 1>time where passing ships. I've got to get to work.

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I've got to stay longer. You know, well, schools doing this.

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>The a thousand excuses that I hear on a daily

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>basis been they've done it, I've tried everything, nothing works.

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:15.399
<v Speaker 1>The I've tried everything, nothing works. Culture. On top of that,

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a major breakthrough for men because women already

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>had that movement in the sixties. We already went from

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>apen string bearing children, cooking up big peach cobblifies to

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>we're in the workforce right and we're holding down careers

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and earning money. And I think there's been a whole,

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a whole level of movement with men over the last

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 1>not that long. I'm going to say maybe over the

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 1>last seven eight years, where we have men really growing

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and processing what does it mean today to be a

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:59.399
<v Speaker 1>man and redefined masculinity because it's not how we were

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>raised when we were younger and the models that we

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 1>saw from men when we were young boys, but it's

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:11.919
<v Speaker 1>what's expected of us now as fathers, as husbands, and

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 1>how we sit comfortable with that so that we can

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>grow and be in in this mode that's not survival.

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not the protector or the provider or um.

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, the person who is even maybe now the

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>bread winner, but the person who is emotionally supportive, the

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>person who is is going to recognize that emotionally expressing

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>themselves and showing up with purple jobs rather than pink

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and blue jobs in the house is about teamwork together

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't itself based on gender. Does that make

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>sense to you, Yeah, it does. But I want to

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>push back and have a conversation in regard to that,

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>because as you're talking about that purple, the pink and

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 1>blue coming together again. Coming from a you know, a

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>sports background, I realized the the importance of team, the

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>importance of having different roles as a quarterback. You know,

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I was never a quarterback, but my quarterback, you know,

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 1>he gets the attention. He does all these I'm a

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>defensive lineman. We have two different jobs, but we're on

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the same team. And I feel like, and correctly if

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you think that this is wrong or if I'm off

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>chart here, but I feel like the purple mindset means

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that it comes it stems from comparison. Well I'm doing this,

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing that. I remember early in my marriage, my

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>wife was like, well, I'm at home doing this, that

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and the other. And I'm saying, well, I'm at work

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>doing this, that and the other. And I was just like,

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>rather than comparing who's doing what and whose job is harder,

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 1>why don't we realize to be able to operate in

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>our strengths so that way we can service our family,

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>because that's the team unit. Because I think when I

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>try to do what my wife is doing, and if

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I try to put the pressure for her to do

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing, I'm really taking away from what she

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>does best. She's taken away from like there's a there's

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>time to to make adjustments and change, say hey, look,

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I need to lean in over here she might need

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.359
<v Speaker 1>lean in on the other side. But I think when

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you start making this making me into something that I'm not,

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>or making a man or a woman into something that

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 1>they're not, and we're all designed differently, so it could

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>be reversed. So this it could be the woman is

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the breadwin and the man is to stay at home.

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>So it has nothing to do with who's doing what

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>as much as respecting what they do for the team.

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense because purple, don't you think purple

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 1>is saying that essentially you're cutting yourself fifty fifty for

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>moos like you need to be doing that some of

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that and you need to be just so and boom

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>there you go. Now, no, there are two different things.

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>So so you and your partner have have the strength

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that you're good at, right, all the things that you

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 1>love to do and the things that you're really good

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>good at. Don't fix it. It's not broken. It's what

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you love to do. It's what your best. That you

0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>work that out between the pair of you, that makes

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:03.399
<v Speaker 1>you instinct it together. Then there then there are the

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>overall tasks, jobs, house chores that need to get done,

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and that incorporates work as well. As how you're raising

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the children and being productive with them. And this is

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>a time now where it's not defined by gender, like

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 1>while it's the man's job to do that or it's

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the woman's job to do that, it's a moment of

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 1>recognizing that it's a job and it needs to get done.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>So if you've worked out what your strengths are and

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>where you are in sync, because it's just a given right,

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>then the purple jobs become tasks that need to get

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>done that do not identify themselves as a woman's role

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>or a man's role. And I'll give you an example

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 1>right now, because this is what I have been dealing

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>with a lot across America. We've just currently, you know,

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>because of COVID finished filming Supernanny, and I was helping

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 1>a family where the father was the breadwinner. And this

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>family or an Instagram family where they make their money

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>from sponsors, you know, and they tell their family story

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and the mother generated a demographic that brought a lot

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of interest in sponsorship. So they worked out together. But

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>it would make sense that he was at home raising

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the kids and that she was at work going into

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:34.919
<v Speaker 1>a space where she could do her work. However, they

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>had major internal conflict as a couple because in his

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 1>mind he felt that he brought nothing and had no

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>value because how he had been raised was the value

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>himself based on what he could bring in monetary and

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that money and that is what men are going through

0:45:56.080 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>right now as well, is the recognized is recognizing that

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it has shifted over the years into a space that

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 1>men are learning to value themselves not just based on

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.880
<v Speaker 1>whether they bring it in money or protect or provide,

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>but the emotional intelligence of how they are productive fathers

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 1>and husbands and the team, what that they bring in

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and not babysitting the kids. No, you're raising your kids.

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>You're not babysitting your own children. You're raising your children.

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>You are as valuable and as instrumental in their lives

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>as their mother. You know, are we erasing some of

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the paternal instincts because I've heard you said a couple

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 1>of times, um, you know, protector provider. I find that

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that is a a paternal in my opinion. I'm sure

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody will blast me about this, but in my opinion,

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's a paternal instinct. Like I'll never

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>forget what my wife to me that we were pregnant,

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that she was pregnant with our twins. Um, the first

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>thing my brain went to was, Okay, how much am

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I gonna need to work? How am I going to

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.919
<v Speaker 1>protect them? And like my brain just she's thinking about something.

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>She's thinking about what why am I forgetting this in

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years and that was eight years since

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>we baby, when they nesting, he's thinking about what was

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna look like? And this was all natural, no judgment,

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 1>like that was her thing. And I think that somehow,

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think some of the conversations get into

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 1>almost and I've had these conversations with a lot of

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>my men, my guy friends, and that you know, you

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>almost start to feel bad for having a protective mindset

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.839
<v Speaker 1>or a provider mindset, like that's not a good thing.

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Like and again I think it comes from a comparison thing.

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 1>But like you said, no, no, nobody should, you know,

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>nobody should feel bad for that. That's like saying that's

0:47:56.280 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 1>like saying a single, a single fun other raising his

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>children should feel bad because he does what might be

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 1>seen as a feminine energy, right or maternal energy with

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>his children. Right. We're now we're now come into a

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 1>space where men are expressing themselves emotionally more. We are

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>understanding importance of men not raising their boys just to

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>play the dumper trucks and trains, But do I actually

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>push a baby around and make home right? And I

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's really important. I also think it's incredibly important

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>in different cultures as well as an African American men,

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that's important. You know, I'm married to an

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 1>African American man, you know, and when I look at

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the culture and you know, how he was raised and

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 1>his father and I, you know, and I talked to

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the black community, I think there's there's much growth there

0:48:57.200 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 1>as well, and understanding that actually, you know, men are

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 1>breaking through in many wonderful ways that they can still

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 1>own how they feel innately to provide a place what

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>was wired, but to also encourage, you know, their young

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.359
<v Speaker 1>boys to know that they will brought up to be men,

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>who will be feminists, who will who will have compassion

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and um certainly this caring side of them that is

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>shown from a very a very young age. Because toys

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>are toys and they're not boys or girls. Boy can

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 1>push a baby around in a in a pram and

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 1>play home and make home and not be seen as

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it's something that is a girl thing to do. Keep it,

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>let me keep it real with you. I tend to

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just going again, I'm sure people will blast

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>me on this. Always preface these things because social media

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 1>will just go the I can't believe you're such a better.

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't let my son in that manner, like if

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>he picks up like he's got you know, two sisters, right,

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean he'll play, you know, my play with his

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 1>sister or whatever. But I won't let my son push

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.840
<v Speaker 1>around it all. And uh, you know, I play because

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:15.800
<v Speaker 1>to me, I think that there's more of an emphasis

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:20.279
<v Speaker 1>on And I had these conversations where somehow the man

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>has to kind of move in the direction of and

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting in an air quotes here, move towards more

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of the feminine quality. Um. And again I put that

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 1>in air quotes, um, whereas it's not the same really

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>on the other end, it's not the reverse like that's

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of more seen as a pushback if you know,

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you were to reverse that and going, hey, it should

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>be more this way. And I just think that there's

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 1>there's things emasculating a man and if that if that

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>term really exists like, he has to show more feminine qualities,

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 1>He has to be more understanding, he has to be

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like you. You you've kind of tapped on it where

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>you know his emotional intelligence, but is the underlying there

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>he's emotionally growing, meaning that what like meaning he's there

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 1>is there is a there's enough scientific data as well

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>as through experiments, social experiments that show that if children

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>both sexes are encouraged to just see toys as toys

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and play home and make home, it doesn't it doesn't

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 1>hinder a boy's a boy's temperament or what their DNA

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>is if they're competitive, that's about temperament. If you have

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a competitive temperament, or if you have you know, the

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>DNA of you know, your mother or your father, meaning

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 1>you'll say, well, you're like your father because you know

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>he shows characteristic traits that way, that's DNA. But how

0:51:55.400 --> 0:52:01.399
<v Speaker 1>we how we shape and teach Emperor Fee is through

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:05.839
<v Speaker 1>showing kindness and care, and that has been seen predominantly

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>as a feminine energy, as something that little girls should do.

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:13.919
<v Speaker 1>If we can raise our boys to have both, then

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 1>we will raise them to become young men who will,

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, put themselves in other people's shoes, who will

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 1>be more empathetic. That won't take away competitiveness at all,

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, or the or the or the need and

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the drive to be motivated to be successful in whatever

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you do. But it does instill empathy, and we all

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>need more empathy in this world. It also teaches young

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>boys to express more, to be you'll eat or anything

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:43.799
<v Speaker 1>like that, you know, but to look, we're going through

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a mental health stigma right now. We know suicide is

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>really high amongst young men, and fathers find it really difficult,

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.759
<v Speaker 1>even though we're seeing progress now to be able to

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 1>turn around and say to their sports chump, hey boy,

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I just I spent all day crying last night because

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.400
<v Speaker 1>my wife said something that really made me think about something,

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and because they're all thinking. But then you're gonna look

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.760
<v Speaker 1>at him and go like, what's that. We're here, right,

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna bread for that to be okay. And I'm

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>an emotional guy and I've had conversations with my wife

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>where you know, like I will you know, and and

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:24.719
<v Speaker 1>again this is conversations that you hear all the time,

0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Like if I'm more expressive about my emotional state, it

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.880
<v Speaker 1>sometimes may not carry overwell, and I've heard from a

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of my guy friends like how much conflict that

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 1>causes in the house, Like the woman has the ability

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to be more expressive about her feelings, um, and the

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>man is supposed to listen, be more empathic, whereas when

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 1>it's reversed, it's going And I think that's part of

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the conditioning and how you know we we were raised

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 1>is when you know again just from some of the

0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 1>conversations that I've had that when the man is expressive,

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like ho ho, hold on, like almost like

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 1>there's not enough room for and what you know, like

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:09.799
<v Speaker 1>that I have to be the emotional one. You have

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to listen and then everything else you just need you

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.279
<v Speaker 1>need to just process that yourself because you're a man,

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed to have those feelings. But guess what happens.

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Then women have work to do. Then women have much

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:25.239
<v Speaker 1>work to do to bring men into a space of

0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:31.600
<v Speaker 1>recognizing that vulnerability is not weakness. You emotionally feeling how

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you feel will only create more emotional more emotional intimacy.

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Women can't have it both ways. They can't turn around

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and say, well, we we don't want you to feel

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 1>or please don't share it with us. You want, we

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 1>want you to fix things and to get the job done.

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:50.360
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, hey, I'm feeling

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:53.319
<v Speaker 1>like we're a bit distant. I'm feeling like emotionally you

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:56.319
<v Speaker 1>don't you don't say anything, you don't get me, you

0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 1>don't talk and say anything. You can't have it both ways,

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, think it's important for women to understand that

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>if you want emotional intimacy with your man, and I'm

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:10.480
<v Speaker 1>not talking about sexual, I'm talking about on an emotional

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 1>intimate level where you feel heard, where you feel but

0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:17.279
<v Speaker 1>you have the trust where you can truly talk to

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:20.560
<v Speaker 1>one another about how each other a feeling. Because men

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.319
<v Speaker 1>need that too. Then you've got to do a lot

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.799
<v Speaker 1>of guys saying A lot of my guys wouldn't say that.

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:30.000
<v Speaker 1>They don't go there. You know, there's this old idea

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that men are you know, they don't talk much and

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.359
<v Speaker 1>they don't say much, and a lot of it has

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:37.319
<v Speaker 1>to be comes from the ideas like they want to.

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But the minute they start speaking, that's when the biggest

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:44.040
<v Speaker 1>eruption happened in the household. That's when a lot of

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the confusion and the argument happened is when they feel

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>like if I speak up on this, she's going to

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:52.440
<v Speaker 1>take it as personal, like it's a personal thing. But

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:56.799
<v Speaker 1>when she speaks, it's more or less like I have

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to listen. I have to be you know, I have

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.240
<v Speaker 1>to fix it. I have to you know, recognize my actions.

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's it, Like that's, oh, that's a good husband.

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 1>He listened. But when when the husband speaks, then it's

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>just like how do we get around there? Because it's

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 1>like like I'm apprehensive to say anything because if I

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 1>say anything that I know is going to cause a problem.

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I think the number one tip for that

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 1>communication is is to validate what you're here in First,

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>if your job is to listen from your wife, then listen,

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and when you respond, validate mirror what you've heard. Mirror

0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>what was said in that conversation so that your wife

0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:43.840
<v Speaker 1>feels heard that you heard what she said and validate that.

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.720
<v Speaker 1>And once you have opened up the gate to mirror

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 1>what has been said, like I'm really sorry that you

0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>feel that you you had so much on your shoulders

0:56:56.800 --> 0:57:00.759
<v Speaker 1>right now, because that must feel really heavy for you

0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and very tiring, and you have a long day because

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you're raising the kids, you know, all day and doing

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the teaching with them, and then you know you're getting

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:15.319
<v Speaker 1>dinner ready tonight as well, So you know, I can

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 1>imagine how difficult that must feel for you, and I'm

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 1>really sorry you're feeling this way. You know, it's about listening,

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:28.760
<v Speaker 1>mirroring what's being said, and then validating it. The straight away.

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 1>What happens is you the men you come from a

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:37.200
<v Speaker 1>stance they're not defending, but truly listening, and your wife

0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:40.920
<v Speaker 1>will feel like you heard, and that will stop her

0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 1>from having that sword and shield up. Because if a

0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:46.400
<v Speaker 1>woman talks to a man and he listens, and his

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 1>only response is the go to that defends himself rather

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:55.000
<v Speaker 1>than to diffuse and to show that he truly did

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 1>hear from mirroring and then validating, then you're going to

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>have to few up with sword and shield, right Whereas

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:08.760
<v Speaker 1>if the man can here validate and then defuse the circumstance,

0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 1>because the woman will be like, huh, okay, he heard me,

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you can then fal I would I would assume that

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it's the reverse as well, because in that way, what

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about totally agree with you, and that being

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 1>able to listen and understand that. But what happens when

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the man identifies a problem because it's you know that

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 1>from where you're talking about, identifies that the woman will

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 1>automatically come up with it first, and then the man

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>is kind of reacting to what she's saying. But what

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:39.120
<v Speaker 1>happens when a man wants to engage in a conversation

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:43.040
<v Speaker 1>first and identify an issue where he's feeling something about

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the relationship or whatever the problem might be, whether it's

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:49.160
<v Speaker 1>back to school with the kids and how things are

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>moving in the house, Like, how does a man address

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that without because most not most, I don't say that.

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 1>A lot of men a man well knowing that the

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:02.600
<v Speaker 1>minute they say something is wrong, the woman might take

0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>it as personal and saying I'm not good enough, I'm

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 1>not doing the you know, a good job, and then

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of breaks away. Nothing. Nothing is wrong

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that a man feels nothing. Number one. So if there

0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:17.160
<v Speaker 1>any women listening to this, you know, there is nothing

0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that a man can say if he's expressed in himself

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that is wrong because it's how he feels and he

0:59:24.120 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 1>owns those feelings, and none of us are here to

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.400
<v Speaker 1>be able to say I will minimize how a man

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:33.440
<v Speaker 1>feels when he's expressing himself. If you've got to a

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 1>place where your man actually feels comfortable doing that, then

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you're doing something right. However, what I will tell you

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 1>is what I will tell you in those circumstances is

0:59:43.960 --> 0:59:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the more we can practice as as couples, the more

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 1>we can practice in having conversation where we neutralize and

0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:59.360
<v Speaker 1>see it as each other looking at solution rather than

0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 1>finger pointing right, the better the outcome. So I use,

1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:07.400
<v Speaker 1>for example, with couples, I've used a box. I literally

1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:11.720
<v Speaker 1>took objectively a box with plat parts and wrote them

1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:15.200
<v Speaker 1>down so that there was no tongue to be judged,

1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:20.280
<v Speaker 1>no eye contact or body language that could be mistewed

1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:24.520
<v Speaker 1>in any way, and that you simply wrote the problem

1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:28.760
<v Speaker 1>down and put it in the box. And twice a week.

1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 1>That led to then three times a week that led

1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to the then four times you opened up the box

1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:36.320
<v Speaker 1>together and said, right, let's take a look at these

1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:38.720
<v Speaker 1>problems and let's look at how we're going to solve

1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 1>them together. Because it's not just what you say, it's

1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:46.480
<v Speaker 1>how you say it, the delivery when you say it,

1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:52.919
<v Speaker 1>and it's also your body because that is your body

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:56.840
<v Speaker 1>language in when and how you convey the message that

1:00:56.880 --> 1:00:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to put across to your partner. So if

1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you make an objective by putting those in a card together,

1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you both go right, let's take a look and see

1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:08.600
<v Speaker 1>what's in here, and let's work together to solve these issues.

1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:12.480
<v Speaker 1>You won't sue me if I decided to steal that

1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and use it in my household. I hope you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you do. It's been very productive and it's

1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:25.040
<v Speaker 1>been very successful for a lot of couples to be

1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:27.480
<v Speaker 1>able to do that. And the fact is is once

1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you once you do that, it's not the box that's

1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the magic. It's the fact that you both came together

1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:37.360
<v Speaker 1>with an open heart of saying, look, there's no room

1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:40.680
<v Speaker 1>for ego here for me to feel slighted and to

1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:44.000
<v Speaker 1>get touchy and to take it personal. If we're to

1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:47.920
<v Speaker 1>resolve these issues together, then let's look at it together

1:01:48.480 --> 1:01:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and let's recognize that what's being said in a pragmatic

1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:54.959
<v Speaker 1>way is about how we solve the issues. That way,

1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you can take the ego out the room, because if

1:01:58.600 --> 1:02:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you're talking to somebody who's continuously feel inslighted or victimized,

1:02:04.280 --> 1:02:08.120
<v Speaker 1>or the tone that you said it or defensive, they're

1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:12.960
<v Speaker 1>just poison arrows in a marriage that leads to bitterness

1:02:13.040 --> 1:02:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and resentment. And that's a hard place to come back from.

1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's why we're seeing so many divorces right now.

1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what we're seeing a lot of divorces

1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:27.360
<v Speaker 1>right now. And I believe in the marriage, you know.

1:02:27.440 --> 1:02:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I believe in the institution of marriage, you know. And

1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe in the importance of you know, working things

1:02:34.920 --> 1:02:38.760
<v Speaker 1>through and that in a healthy way. Right That's not

1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to ignore or to tolerate abuse or any form of

1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:48.400
<v Speaker 1>toxic relationship, but I think it's about time these conversations

1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:52.520
<v Speaker 1>were happening in a very organic, consistent way. Look, we

1:02:52.640 --> 1:02:56.920
<v Speaker 1>saw Will Smith and Jada Pinkett bring on the Red

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<v Speaker 1>Table talk. How could you not love that? Oh my gosh, Okay,

1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:04.560
<v Speaker 1>don't even give me something. I don't want to pick

1:03:04.560 --> 1:03:08.480
<v Speaker 1>this too, you know what it was? Okay, let me

1:03:08.520 --> 1:03:10.680
<v Speaker 1>just say this please. I mean, I know the producers

1:03:10.640 --> 1:03:12.080
<v Speaker 1>said we're gonna wrap this up. Let me tell you

1:03:12.080 --> 1:03:15.840
<v Speaker 1>something that was so amazing because it was so transparent,

1:03:15.880 --> 1:03:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it was so real. You don't see anyone in Hollywood

1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:22.280
<v Speaker 1>giving that level or that that type of insight. Look,

1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure there are a lot of people who've

1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:26.960
<v Speaker 1>got things to say in the judgment. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite things from that whole Things and there was

1:03:29.000 --> 1:03:31.680
<v Speaker 1>like bad Marriage for Life, kind of a playoff of

1:03:31.720 --> 1:03:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the Bad Boys for Life. I think what it is

1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:36.640
<v Speaker 1>to me what I heard when I heard that was

1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:42.880
<v Speaker 1>reasonable expectations. Look, marriage is hard as hell and things,

1:03:42.920 --> 1:03:45.040
<v Speaker 1>because I think what happens is there's this over sale

1:03:45.200 --> 1:03:47.800
<v Speaker 1>on the glamor and the beauty and the wedding and

1:03:47.840 --> 1:03:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the road and everything is perfect and when you get

1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:53.160
<v Speaker 1>into it, you're like, gosh, I've never I've not reached

1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:56.560
<v Speaker 1>this perfection or this I think it's learning how to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the show that I that I house

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<v Speaker 1>with American Injin Warriors. Just it's one obstacle after the

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<v Speaker 1>next obstacle. Yeah, and it's not happily ever after, it's

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<v Speaker 1>happily working on it happily. Come on, come on, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, come on, you're killing all right. Well, let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you something. Look, I I could talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you for another hour. In fact, I'm gonna put you

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<v Speaker 1>on a jet from wherever you are, hopefully your local time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to bring you to my house and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be the super Therapist and the Supernanny as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to thank you so much, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and and look and for all those listeners. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know Joe Frost, of course I think you already

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<v Speaker 1>do know her. But remember Supernanny returns to Lifetime on

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<v Speaker 1>September one. She's back in action. Joe Frost, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. This has really been an eye opener. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot to digest. I've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to digest from what we just talked to here today,

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much. It mhm, well that was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>What a stack show we had today. We had Jerry O'Connor,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Alfonso Ribeiro and Joe Frost. Uh, so much

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<v Speaker 1>to digest from all of those conversations. I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>first off, a big, big time thank you to both

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks and Gavin for and host How Men Think. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you guys learned a lot, had a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more of an inside is how men think, at least

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<v Speaker 1>how I think. But anyways, joining us for more shows

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<v Speaker 1>on how men think.