Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Well, well, well, look who we have here?
Speaker 1: A caller on the phone.
Speaker 2: MM surprising, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: What is your name?
Speaker 2: My name is Bridget.
Speaker 1: Bridget. What are you doing right now?
Speaker 2: Right now? Well, I was supposed to be writing a
Speaker 2: paper for college, but then you started streaming.
Speaker 1: What what was this paper about?
Speaker 2: It's actually my end of undergraduate capstone high research paper
Speaker 2: that I'm doing on crop subsidies and water use.
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds extremely boring and I'm glad that. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's not boring for you because
Speaker 1: you signed up to do it. But anyway, Bridget, what's
Speaker 1: what's up? Man? Would you call in to talk about
Speaker 1: if anything?
Speaker 2: So I called them for a bit of life's advice.
Speaker 2: I'll be graduating in December here because I started a
Speaker 2: semester later and afterwards. I'm molling over possibly in Prontt
Speaker 2: moving to Ireland for a lot of reasons, mostly centering
Speaker 2: around the fact that my well has a you know,
Speaker 2: it's things weird, but my dad died.
Speaker 1: Make things, make things however you want to make them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's I'm reading the notes here and it
Speaker 1: says that your dad died last year and that he
Speaker 1: had a lot of connections in Ireland, and you're hoping
Speaker 1: to to, I assume, talk to people that knew your
Speaker 1: father to get a little bit of a better perspective
Speaker 1: on him. Is that is that accurate?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Pretty much? And also just like a connection to the land,
Speaker 2: I guess because my grandma was born and raised there
Speaker 2: obviously my dad's mom, and she died before I was born,
Speaker 2: so I didn't get to know her, but I always
Speaker 2: heard of Ireland through my dad, and my parents divorced
Speaker 2: very young, and my dad never remarried, and his family
Speaker 2: is alreay pretty small, so I guess anybody who's like
Speaker 2: had divorced parents knows like when that happens, that parent
Speaker 2: kind of like gets in a bubble and it kind
Speaker 2: of feels like you and maybe some family members are
Speaker 2: only like the connection they have anymore. And now I
Speaker 2: don't have that because those family members and him, besides
Speaker 2: my sister in Texas, which is a whole nother story,
Speaker 2: are gone, so I really only of Ireland.
Speaker 1: What was your father's connection to Ireland? Was he did
Speaker 1: he live like a significant part of his life.
Speaker 2: There, not a significant but was there like commonly with
Speaker 2: because my Grandma would always bring him and my uncle
Speaker 2: there and back. And he actually has a few cousins
Speaker 2: there who I want to reconnect with, but I don't
Speaker 2: know them. He was there a lot, but I was
Speaker 2: only there four years ago for about a week and
Speaker 2: it was just sightseeing. I met two of them for
Speaker 2: like a day, and I know they're cool people.
Speaker 1: I just it's like, do.
Speaker 2: I want to move to Ireland to experience this part
Speaker 2: of my life that is technically gone? Or should I
Speaker 2: just stay here?
Speaker 1: These people that your dad has had connections to you
Speaker 1: do you Do you have their contact information? Do you
Speaker 1: have them on Facebook or a cell phone?
Speaker 4: I think I.
Speaker 2: Have one of them. I think, uh, yeah, he had
Speaker 2: a cousin who would be like the age of an
Speaker 2: uncle to me somewhere, My my blood uncle probably has it.
Speaker 2: So him and my dad were estranged one he died.
Speaker 1: So, so tell me about where you're kind of at
Speaker 1: in life right now? You are You told me at
Speaker 1: the beginning of this that you have homework, So you're
Speaker 1: in school? Are you about to graduate?
Speaker 2: M looking like graduating this December and then afterwards is
Speaker 2: where the question kind of comes into play. Where I'll
Speaker 2: be graduated? I don't really have any job lined up,
Speaker 2: so I feel like if I'm going to make a
Speaker 2: big change right now, that would be the time.
Speaker 1: I actually, I totally totally agree with that as a
Speaker 1: sentiment where it's like, if you are going to go
Speaker 1: take a risk or do something fringy or unexpected, right
Speaker 1: now is totally totally the time to do it, right
Speaker 1: because when you have started and what do you what
Speaker 1: are you trying to get a career in crop.
Speaker 2: Stuff basically environmental policy?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you know, look when you're when you're you know,
Speaker 1: three years deep into your career, and you know, maybe
Speaker 1: you have a significant other of some kind and you're
Speaker 1: really just are are kind of rooted down where you are.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not going to want to go take
Speaker 1: off and run to Irelands because there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot more left behind. There's gonna be a lot to
Speaker 1: leave behind. But at this point that you're in right now,
Speaker 1: where you haven't started anything yet, you don't have any
Speaker 1: real commitments. I don't know if you have money saved
Speaker 1: up or anything like that, but now feels like the
Speaker 1: time to do it. If you're going to go do
Speaker 1: something like that, if you desire to do something like that,
Speaker 1: because you know, worst case scenario, if you know there
Speaker 1: is no sustainable future for you in whatever fringe thing
Speaker 1: you decide to do, you can always come back and
Speaker 1: get a crop job, a croppy job. That was stupid.
Speaker 1: So can I have I do have to ask you this.
Speaker 1: I do have to ask you this. I love this idea.
Speaker 1: I think it's great. It seems like you're very passionate
Speaker 1: about it. And if it even interests you a moticum
Speaker 1: and you you know, cand afford a plane ticket whatever,
Speaker 1: totally go and do it. Life is short. Why do
Speaker 1: you want to move there and stead? If if your
Speaker 1: primary goal is to learn about your dad and connect
Speaker 1: with all these people, do you do you feel like
Speaker 1: you couldn't just accomplish that in a a you know,
Speaker 1: trip of a month or two or three, Why are
Speaker 1: you considering moving there?
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question, and it's something I'm still
Speaker 2: like kind of moving over because I still have like
Speaker 2: my mom and stepdad here and friends here. But what's
Speaker 2: kind of like pushing me to think about moving is
Speaker 2: something my dad would always say when he's still alive,
Speaker 2: or he would always mention how my uncle who I've
Speaker 2: mentioned previously very well traveled man, lived in the abroad
Speaker 2: for many months, lived in Germany for a year, all
Speaker 2: this stuff, and my dad never did that, despite loving
Speaker 2: the aspect of different countries, different places, different cultures, and
Speaker 2: he said he always always regretted it. And I'm wondering
Speaker 2: that if I don't take that chance right now, am
Speaker 2: I going to regret not just taking a trip, you know,
Speaker 2: because you take a trip and you leave, you know,
Speaker 2: you people are just like, oh, she was nice. But
Speaker 2: if I moved there for let's say, at least a year,
Speaker 2: then I'm actually like instilling myself in the culture and
Speaker 2: knowing just being a traveler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I I like that. That's a good explanation,
Speaker 1: and that actually does make a lot of sense to
Speaker 1: be like, no, I'm going to actually, you know, really
Speaker 1: try to to to live in a place, and why
Speaker 1: that would be different from just you know, a trip
Speaker 1: of a couple of months. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Bridget I think you should do it. I love shit
Speaker 1: like this, I really do. I really do believe that
Speaker 1: life is short and that if you want to have
Speaker 1: a career in environmental policy, I think that you know,
Speaker 1: you got your degree and you know, the job prospects
Speaker 1: are not going anywhere if you want to spend this
Speaker 1: year in Ireland, and I think I think you should
Speaker 1: do it now. If you're going to do it right,
Speaker 1: like you you can always start your career afterwards. Who
Speaker 1: fucking knows. Maybe something happens in Ireland that you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to do environmental policy. Maybe I
Speaker 1: want to do this or go to this place. Maybe
Speaker 1: you meet someone who's like, hey, I got this startup
Speaker 1: going on in fucking Laos. You want to come, and
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, sure, and then you're in Laos and
Speaker 1: then you meet the love of your life and then
Speaker 1: they break your heart. But then you meet someone else
Speaker 1: who's even better, and then you go to fucking Japan.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I just just life is short.
Speaker 1: You should do these things if you feel like you
Speaker 1: want to do them. I'm fully in favor. Also, it's cool,
Speaker 1: it's this is like a movie thing. To me. This
Speaker 1: feels like it's a plot of a movie. You might
Speaker 1: come out of this with a good screenplay and it
Speaker 1: has a purpose too. Yeah, I like everything about this.
Speaker 1: I I I think you should do it. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm in favor, and I'm not just saying that because
Speaker 1: I'm green and biased. Because of that, I've said too
Speaker 1: many stupid things over the course of this call. But no,
Speaker 1: I think I think you should do it. I like
Speaker 1: the idea of taking your big risks early because it's
Speaker 1: you're You're never gonna be in a better position later
Speaker 1: on in your career to do.
Speaker 2: This kind of shit, right right, Yeah, Wow, that was
Speaker 2: some solid advice.
Speaker 1: Well have you been talking to your your mom about this?
Speaker 1: What does she think?
Speaker 2: I've mentioned it to her. She's not not opposed, as
Speaker 2: all moms are. She'd like me to stay close to home.
Speaker 2: It's just a little difficult of a topic in our
Speaker 2: families because my parents had a very nasty doors, to
Speaker 2: say the least, and it happened when I was like three,
Speaker 2: so I barely even remember it. But long story short,
Speaker 2: I can never remember them having a pleasant conversation. So
Speaker 2: it's like, it's not that she opposes Ireland, it's just
Speaker 2: the I guess relationship to my dad. But you know,
Speaker 2: she's not saying don't go, but she's not like grinning
Speaker 2: as a fact, H.
Speaker 1: I get why you want to stay close to your mom.
Speaker 1: And your stepdad and your friends. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: a difficult thing. You want to be close to your family,
Speaker 1: but also you're aware that life is short and you
Speaker 1: want to go out and live it. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think you should, and you know, go to Ireland,
Speaker 1: FaceTime your mom, you know, once a week at the
Speaker 1: very minimum, and you know, I, yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: should go for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you. I'll call in if I'm there
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go, Bridget.
Speaker 2: I guess your dad dies moved to Ireland.
Speaker 1: Solid advice. Thanks, take care.
Speaker 4: Too.
Speaker 1: I like, I liked her. She had first of all,
Speaker 1: like I said, great movie premise, great movie premise. I
Speaker 1: who knows what kind of I cannot see the trailer
Speaker 1: for that movie in my head. The characters that she meets,
Speaker 1: she'll piece together her father's story. It reminds me of
Speaker 1: what's that movie? Extremely loud and incredibly close. Isn't that
Speaker 1: kind of what that movie was? Anyway? I liked I like.
Speaker 1: I like that a lot. I think that's a great
Speaker 1: life experience. And I I really, in my fucking core,
Speaker 1: I do believe that life is short. And that that
Speaker 1: if if she is in a position to go and
Speaker 1: have this life experience, she really should. I mean, who,
Speaker 1: who the fuck knows what could happen as a result
Speaker 1: of her taking a chance. I'm inspired, I'm excited for her.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be cool. I think she's gonna
Speaker 1: learn some stuff. I think she's gonna feel really connected
Speaker 1: to her father, connected to her family. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: to hear that her mother is not actively discouraging her
Speaker 1: from it, because it seems to me that she holds
Speaker 1: her mother's opinion in a solid regard. You know, she
Speaker 1: wants to be close to her and the stepdad and
Speaker 1: the friends, and I hope she has the courage to
Speaker 1: do it. I think she should. Shall we shall? We
Speaker 1: take phone calls? Hello, Hello, Hi, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 5: I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I am feeling I'm actually feeling uh really good. I'm
Speaker 1: feeling good. Uh. How are you feeling?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: I'm feeling good. I'm a little nervous about telling you
Speaker 5: this story. It's funny, but.
Speaker 1: Listen, trust me, it's five minutes from now. I guarantee
Speaker 1: you are not going to feel nervous. What's uh, what's
Speaker 1: going on with you. Jane, tell me, tell me everything.
Speaker 1: We have no time for anything, but we only we
Speaker 1: only have. Now what's going on, Jane, tell me the
Speaker 1: tell me the thing.
Speaker 5: Oh nothing much. My husband and I we we like
Speaker 5: to on his off not and so on his off notes,
Speaker 5: we like to we'll smoke, you know, we'll smoke, maybe
Speaker 5: pop a notable, you know, get a little, get a
Speaker 5: little uh jazz and this party I was just a
Speaker 5: few nights ago. We were just having a grand all time,
Speaker 5: getting into it, you know, and Uh, I could have
Speaker 5: sworn I felt. Now let me purpose this by saying
Speaker 5: we are not new to butt stuff but stuff. I mean,
Speaker 5: let me just I mean, you say, we can say
Speaker 5: anything on here right, Like that's the pab I opening
Speaker 5: the porn hube, you know what I mean, Like like
Speaker 5: that's that's the stuff that I like. So this isn't
Speaker 5: new for me. But for some reason, I mean, I
Speaker 5: guess maybe it was because I was I was stoned.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I could have sworn it was slipping out.
Speaker 5: And so he's behind me going to town and I'm like, hey, bro,
Speaker 5: can you like poke that in just a little bit.
Speaker 5: I think it's about to slip out, and he does.
Speaker 5: He does it, He does it, and then he doesn't
Speaker 5: see it. He doesn't see it. It's gone. It's up
Speaker 5: in my butthole. He pulled out.
Speaker 1: Are you talking you? Are you talking about his penis? No?
Speaker 5: No, I should have purposed that. I'm so sorry I have.
Speaker 1: Because because when you said his penis disappeared into your asshole,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's, first of all, would be terrifying. That
Speaker 1: would be an awful trip to the hospital. If he
Speaker 1: lost his penis so like a.
Speaker 5: Prosthetic penis and he just lost it, that'd be horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But no, it was a vibrating butt plug. And I mean,
Speaker 5: I'll admit it was like I don't know, I don't
Speaker 5: know if you, like are around anybody that baps regularly,
Speaker 5: but I mean that's the size of like a like
Speaker 5: a like a bigger, like a bigger size of bape.
Speaker 5: But it was, you know, butt plug shaped, and it vibrated. Well,
Speaker 5: there's a grand old time until it got lost. So
Speaker 5: I sent him to the kitchen because he's freaking out.
Speaker 2: I'm high.
Speaker 5: I'm laughing and crying at the same time. It was honestly,
Speaker 5: it was kind of an amazing mix of emotions.
Speaker 1: But he uh.
Speaker 5: He goes in, he gets the kitchen gloves and he's like,
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't feel it.
Speaker 5: The whole time, shit's still vibrating. I'm like, we got
Speaker 5: to go to the hospital. He's like, no, you gotta
Speaker 5: go to the hospital. Mind you, we have a two
Speaker 5: year old. She's in bitter sleep. I'm like, I cannot.
Speaker 5: I cannot go to the er in this condition and
Speaker 5: explain to these people why I have a butt plug
Speaker 5: stuck in my asshole. I can't do that. I was
Speaker 5: crying still. I was like, I can't. It's just this
Speaker 5: is ridiculous. It's humiliating. And he finally caved. He caved.
Speaker 4: He went with me.
Speaker 5: He got the baby up, ain't got me in the car.
Speaker 5: We get in there, I walk in and there's I
Speaker 5: just walked. Yeah, man, I can't leave a baby at
Speaker 5: the house.
Speaker 1: And I mean, look, that's perfect, perfect timing, right, because
Speaker 1: it sounds like the baby is just young enough that
Speaker 1: you will not remember any of this. It's perfect, perfect Okay,
Speaker 1: so happen when you get to the hospital. I already
Speaker 1: DoD why you know, people who look, I understand why
Speaker 1: if you have a currently vibrating butt plug inside of
Speaker 1: your asshole. Why you would be embarrassed to, you know,
Speaker 1: go get help for that. But these are medical experts
Speaker 1: we're talking about here. I mean, they've probably seen much worse.
Speaker 5: This is true, But I was not anticipating the security guard.
Speaker 5: And the security guard had to let me into the
Speaker 5: ere and she's like, Okay, where are you needing to
Speaker 5: go to? Not I'm like, oh, the ere?
Speaker 4: What brings you mean?
Speaker 5: I'm my bro, this is this is humiliating, but I
Speaker 5: have something stuck in my butte. She tries to keep
Speaker 5: a straight face and she couldn't and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: she calls them. They called me back. It dies in
Speaker 5: the middle of the intake question. I look over at
Speaker 5: my husband and I'm like, it died. The nurse lost
Speaker 5: her shit, he lost his shit. I'm like, this is
Speaker 5: not funny. Kind of is because it died at just
Speaker 5: the best moment, because I think if it had a
Speaker 5: still been vibrating when the doctor tried to get it out,
Speaker 5: I would have legit di embarrassments.
Speaker 1: Oh the battery died.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the battery died, mind you. This was this was
Speaker 5: like thirty minutes later. It was sitting there, you know,
Speaker 5: just doing this thing for about thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I feel like the battery on the bluff, I feel
Speaker 1: like the battery on a butt plug. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: need to last longer than thirty minutes, does it.
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like it doesn't. I feel like
Speaker 5: it doesn't even need to last that long.
Speaker 1: That well, So Jane, you know, look, I'm glad that you, uh,
Speaker 1: that you shared this story with us. I hope that
Speaker 1: it was cathartic for you. And I want to know,
Speaker 1: did you did you learn anything from this experience that
Speaker 1: you can take with your own maneuver through the universe.
Speaker 1: Get bigger butt plugs.
Speaker 5: That yeah, no, not bigger necessarily the ones with the
Speaker 5: little rings at the end that you can pull out.
Speaker 5: They won't just like yeah, smart oh did this give
Speaker 5: you anything?
Speaker 1: I mean, did this give you any sort of a
Speaker 1: like adversion to butt stuff in the future, like butt
Speaker 1: PTSD of like I don't want things near my ass
Speaker 1: because then they'll get stuck in there type of thing.
Speaker 1: Or were you or did you guys have butt sex
Speaker 1: that night?
Speaker 5: No, we didn't. We didn't. I mean, it's not like
Speaker 5: an aversion like I had to like genuinely. It was
Speaker 5: kind of like a birthing experience. I've never birthed a child,
Speaker 5: but I would say that that that has to feel
Speaker 5: very similar what I was doing in there.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I just I still enjoy it. I
Speaker 5: still like we Obviously we didn't get to finish that
Speaker 5: night because we had to go to the e R.
Speaker 5: So I mean the next night I was back at
Speaker 5: it again on the porn hood no aversion. I do
Speaker 5: it again, honestly, just not with that specific boot clog.
Speaker 1: Wait, is is your daughter adopted?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was.
Speaker 1: I like the idea. I like the idea. I like
Speaker 1: the idea that you reveal to your daughter that, uh,
Speaker 1: she's adopted by telling like, by telling them that story.
Speaker 5: She would be mortified. I mean, if she's anything like me,
Speaker 5: she's just probably gonna laugh.
Speaker 1: But You're like, the plage got sucked up into me
Speaker 1: and then I had to birth it out, which you know,
Speaker 1: felt weird because I've never birthed anything before. Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, you're adopted, that.
Speaker 5: Would be great. That would be a terrific way. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'll take it under.
Speaker 1: It bot Uh, Jane, is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people the computer before we go.
Speaker 5: No, just everybody stay conned, be kind. Everybody needs kind words.
Speaker 5: And I hope you have lovely not and thank you
Speaker 5: so much for taking my call you as well. I'm bye.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello? Who is this?
Speaker 4: This is Cam?
Speaker 1: What's up? Cam? How's a gun?
Speaker 4: I'm chilling?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What do you? How do you chill? What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you do to chill?
Speaker 4: I lay in bed in the dark and stare at
Speaker 4: my phone.
Speaker 1: You lay in bed at the dark and stare at
Speaker 1: your phone. That actually does sound pretty chill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a professional?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you in the dark right now?
Speaker 4: My curtains are cracked because there's a really pretty sunset.
Speaker 4: But other than that, Yeah, So.
Speaker 1: Cam, what's going on with you?
Speaker 3: Is there?
Speaker 1: Is there a thing you called in to talk about?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I'm going on trips in exactly sixty four days,
Speaker 4: five hours or five minutes. I have a countdown with
Speaker 4: some friends that I met online and we've been friends
Speaker 4: for like a couple of years, and we were just like,
Speaker 4: let's do it.
Speaker 5: Looks meet up.
Speaker 4: But I haven't in like two years. I haven't hung
Speaker 4: out with anybody but family in person. So I'm a
Speaker 4: little nervous that you know I'm gonna get there and
Speaker 4: they're gonna be like, wow, this proves really weird because
Speaker 4: I am very awkward and clumsy.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 1: Can I ask why you haven't hang out with anyone
Speaker 1: except for your family in the past two years.
Speaker 4: It's kind of isolated out here. Before I moved out
Speaker 4: from in Nevada with my fam. But before that, I
Speaker 4: lived in New York and I lived in an update
Speaker 4: and I was I lived at roommates, and I had
Speaker 4: friends and we could go out and do stuff and
Speaker 4: that kind of and did madly. So I came back
Speaker 4: to you with my family, and it's way more isolated
Speaker 4: out here. And I'm kind of antisocial anyway, like I
Speaker 4: have to.
Speaker 2: It takes it takes some.
Speaker 4: Time for me to go like, okay, let's go like
Speaker 4: to be social.
Speaker 1: Are you are you anti? Are you antisocial by choice?
Speaker 1: Like you just prefer having alone time and and or
Speaker 1: or is it a mainly just because of a difficulty
Speaker 1: meeting people and summoning the energy to do that.
Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of both. I like
Speaker 4: my alone time. I don't mind being alone, Like I'm
Speaker 4: not sad that I'm alone all the time, but I
Speaker 4: you know, I do have fun when I'm out with friends.
Speaker 4: It's just like, if it's easier to be alone, I
Speaker 4: guess it's convenient.
Speaker 1: Hm, it is. It is a lot more canvenient, unquestionably
Speaker 1: to sit in your room on your phone in the
Speaker 1: dark as much as you possibly can, as opposed to
Speaker 1: going out into the universe undeniably more convenient one hundred
Speaker 1: percent of the time.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Uh, So you're going on a trip with these friends.
Speaker 1: How many of you guys are there?
Speaker 5: Five?
Speaker 3: Five?
Speaker 4: How did you meet them fortnight?
Speaker 1: Cam? You know, I know that you're nervous, but I
Speaker 1: think and do any of them? Do any of them
Speaker 1: know each other? Or none of you guys have met
Speaker 1: any of each other before?
Speaker 4: Not none of us isn't in person. But one person
Speaker 4: is in California, so what's not even six hours for me?
Speaker 4: And two people are in Florida, which is where we're going.
Speaker 4: So we're all like not all that, we're like kind
Speaker 4: of cloth already, some of us.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you, Cam. I know that you have
Speaker 1: these these fears that people are going to judge you
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. I first of all guarantee that that
Speaker 1: will not happen. I think it is a high probability
Speaker 1: that your internet friends are likely thinking the same thing themselves.
Speaker 1: So it's like a weird, you know, freshman year of
Speaker 1: high school or college thing where everyone is going into it,
Speaker 1: uh nervous and a little worried, but also excited and
Speaker 1: ready to to make connections. I'm excited for you. I
Speaker 1: also think, you know, if you haven't been interacting with
Speaker 1: people socially for two years, it makes perfect sense why
Speaker 1: it would scare you. But like I said, I'm excited
Speaker 1: for you. I think it's good to be nervous. I'm
Speaker 1: learning that a lot more now. I think it's good
Speaker 1: to be nervous because it means it means that you
Speaker 1: have something that is about to challenge you in some way.
Speaker 1: You know, you said that you're you stay on your
Speaker 1: I'm actually I think it's I think it's great that
Speaker 1: you're doing this, because you said that you've been spending
Speaker 1: the past two years on your phone in the dark,
Speaker 1: and you could have said no. You could have well,
Speaker 1: you could have said no. You could have been like,
Speaker 1: I'm too nervous, I don't want to do it. But
Speaker 1: you were really you noticed, you were really I'm sure
Speaker 1: you were really nervous when you got the invitation, but
Speaker 1: you didn't let that stop you. You said, yes, I'll
Speaker 1: go out and I'll do it. And I'm proud of
Speaker 1: for doing that. It takes a lot to go against
Speaker 1: your central nervous system and dive headfirst into a new
Speaker 1: experience and to take active efforts against the convenient lifestyle
Speaker 1: you've been living in the hopes that you'll have an
Speaker 1: experience that will improve your life in some way. That
Speaker 1: takes a lot to do. I'm glad you're doing it.
Speaker 1: You will probably be nervous for the rest of the
Speaker 1: sixty four days because the central nervous system cannot be
Speaker 1: reasoned with. It can only be beat by action. That's
Speaker 1: what I've learned as my own personal experience with my
Speaker 1: own central nervous system that I've been having a complicated
Speaker 1: relationship with over the past few years. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: You will go on this trip. You will face your
Speaker 1: fears and meet these people. You will have a great time,
Speaker 1: and afterwards you will have had an experience where you
Speaker 1: were nervous to do something, did it, realized there was
Speaker 1: nothing to be nervous about, and then next time you're
Speaker 1: facing a situation that makes you nervous, you will have
Speaker 1: first hand evidence that your nerves are not telling you
Speaker 1: a truthful story, and that will help you deal with
Speaker 1: them a little bit better. And then you'll face that,
Speaker 1: and then you'll encounter another situation that makes you nervous,
Speaker 1: and then you'll have two sets of firsthand evidence that
Speaker 1: your nerves are lying to you. And then you keep
Speaker 1: doing that, and you keep doing that, and then eventually
Speaker 1: you just get better at facing your fears. I like that,
Speaker 1: What are you guys going to do in Florida? Are
Speaker 1: you going to bush Gardens?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're probably gonna go to bush Gardens and do
Speaker 4: like a tour But you're actually I just I just
Speaker 4: said a random thing.
Speaker 1: You're actually going to bush gardens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's like a tourism past and it includes Busch Gardens,
Speaker 4: So I mean, why not?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Ah, man, Cam, You're gonna have a good ass time, Dude,
Speaker 1: you got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm not just anxious, But I don't know. It
Speaker 4: just kind of hit me the other day and I
Speaker 4: was like, Wow, it's been a while.
Speaker 1: Anxiety is a form of excitement. I think. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't. That comes from absolutely no information whatsoever except
Speaker 1: personal anecdote. I think it's like anticipation, right, That's what
Speaker 1: the end is, an anxiety anticipation. Again, no information. But okam,
Speaker 1: is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: No, but thanks for being you because you're awesome and
Speaker 4: you make life fun.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you one more thing? If do you believe?
Speaker 1: And I guess you won't know this until you're actually there,
Speaker 1: but do you think that if this goes well for
Speaker 1: you and you do have fun, would you consider when
Speaker 1: you return home seeking out more situations where you can
Speaker 1: put yourself out there to make friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been thinking about it, you know.
Speaker 1: Not.
Speaker 4: I'm like, obviously I can't get into my whole life story,
Speaker 4: but I haven't had a lot of opportunities to do
Speaker 4: things for me, just like because I think I would
Speaker 4: have fun doing them. So in planning this trip and
Speaker 4: like buying a plane tickets and like finding somewhere to stay,
Speaker 4: just like doing it together as a group, I've just
Speaker 4: kind of been thinking on about like what I want
Speaker 4: to do, like just for me to have fun, even
Speaker 4: if it is scary. So I definitely think if I
Speaker 4: go or when I go, obviously I'm going, I paid money,
Speaker 4: but look after I definitely think that if it goes
Speaker 4: well and stuff that I want to do more beautiful,
Speaker 4: which is more scary?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, you know, well you know everything I said
Speaker 1: you you'll you face your fears once and then it
Speaker 1: becomes easier the second time and so on. So you know, again,
Speaker 1: good on you for taking the steps to uh do
Speaker 1: something even if you're nervous to do it. Yeah's too short,
Speaker 1: thanks for calling kem by Lyle. Okay, let's see. How
Speaker 1: can I make this about me? Yes, I will talk
Speaker 1: about my live tour again. One of the things I
Speaker 1: really learned doing these shows is is that process that
Speaker 1: I and you know, whatever doing show is going to
Speaker 1: meet friends. Is any fucking thing that it is that
Speaker 1: could raise your fucking blood pressure and cause you to
Speaker 1: get all squirmy, is really just that process of like
Speaker 1: learning to jump forward and it just watching it get
Speaker 1: easier and easier every time you do it. And that's
Speaker 1: something I'm trying to like for myself. Just I'm trying
Speaker 1: to like exposure therapy myself out out of nerves, whatever
Speaker 1: those nerves may be. Because I think I think the
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a fucking doctor or a scientist,
Speaker 1: but I think you're adrenaline stuff can only raise so
Speaker 1: much that it just gets tired, and then you become
Speaker 1: numb to your nervousness, and then you can just do stuff.
Speaker 1: But like I've said multiple times, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Next caller, Hello, Hello, is this
Speaker 1: the gek? This is the gek?
Speaker 3: Oh? My god, my days? The maid?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Man? Huh? Not a whole lot. I called to talk
Speaker 3: about backyard wrestling.
Speaker 1: You called to talk about backyard wrestling, Yes, sir, uh yeah, man.
Speaker 1: It says here that you are a backyard wrestler for
Speaker 1: a local backyard wrestling federation. Is this what you do
Speaker 1: for a living? You're a backyard wrestler?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 1: How did you get into that?
Speaker 3: It started when I was about sixteen. I was a
Speaker 3: big wrestling not as most people usually are, and I
Speaker 3: ended up hanging out with friends who also like wrestling.
Speaker 3: We just started wrestling around on a trampline Casually. Over
Speaker 3: the years, I kind of just leveled up from that.
Speaker 3: I went and wrestled on like mattresses and stuff after
Speaker 3: getting out of the trampline thing. And now I'm in
Speaker 3: a ring, so still not a full trained professional, but
Speaker 3: it's fun. It's a good hobby.
Speaker 1: Now, when you were wrestling around with your friends, did
Speaker 1: you ever get into a situation where someone got like
Speaker 1: seriously fucked up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a few of them. Not in the
Speaker 3: group i'm in now. Our group's pretty safe, but I've
Speaker 3: seen some things, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything you want to talk about a few of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm down to where.
Speaker 3: Probably the scariest one I've heard, which ironically got me
Speaker 3: into a really crazy match. But this guy was wrestling
Speaker 3: another guy. He had a chair, you know, typical wrestling.
Speaker 3: Hit a guy with a chair, right, and the guy
Speaker 3: ended up not protecting his head when he got hit
Speaker 3: with the chair and part of the chair was broken
Speaker 3: off and nobody knew about it and slashed his head
Speaker 3: like big time. He had to have like multiple staples,
Speaker 3: couldn't wrestle for a very long time. It was. It
Speaker 3: was some scary stuff.
Speaker 1: That's pretty gnarly. But wait, so how did that get
Speaker 1: you involved in a match?
Speaker 3: So the day after the guy who wanted to wrestle
Speaker 3: that guy because he couldn't wrestle. He saw I was
Speaker 3: doing some crazy stuff and he was like, hey, I
Speaker 3: want to wrestle you. So I kind of got his
Speaker 3: misfortunate end up being my gain. As bad as that sounds,
Speaker 3: but it was also the craziest match in my life.
Speaker 3: We had. We had like a table, fladers and chairs
Speaker 3: kind of match, and this guy didn't really fly off latterers.
Speaker 3: He jumped out of a giant tree at me.
Speaker 1: All right, did that's scary? He was jumping out of
Speaker 1: a giant tree.
Speaker 3: I was scared of was me and the guys that
Speaker 3: were not going to be able to catch them. That
Speaker 3: was the scariest part because like he had to have
Speaker 3: been like a good twenty feet up and I'm thankful
Speaker 3: we all caught him and no one was hurt. But
Speaker 3: I was like, you're nuts. I'll take the move, but
Speaker 3: as long as I have some help catching you, because
Speaker 3: I don't trust myself catching you. Tell me I have
Speaker 3: a tree maybe twenty feet in the area.
Speaker 1: You know, So you've been doing this since you were sixteen,
Speaker 1: and says you're thirty two now, so it's been about Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been about sixteen years. It's been half your life
Speaker 1: sixteen years. So how has your relationship with this thing
Speaker 1: evolved over the past sixteen years? Like you know, is
Speaker 1: there is a passion for it all, past Or waned
Speaker 1: Or tell me how it's evolved.
Speaker 3: It's a actually been a wild roller coaster. So sixteen,
Speaker 3: like I said, just starting liking it eventually became something
Speaker 3: I became fascinated and fell in love with. After I
Speaker 3: graduated high school, my group was starting to wind down
Speaker 3: and people were losing interest. So, like a typical thing
Speaker 3: in the late two thousands, Messenger forums right back then,
Speaker 3: and there was one specifically for backyard wrestlers called GBYWN
Speaker 3: and I ended up going on there meeting some people.
Speaker 3: And that's actually how I ended up going to that group.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even my own group. It was in Indiana.
Speaker 3: I ended up traveling a couple of states down to
Speaker 3: head there. So I ended hanging out.
Speaker 1: Oh I keep going, keep going?
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, So I started traveling and just meeting other
Speaker 3: backyard wrestlers while my group was not around. She became
Speaker 3: more and more fascinated by it. As the years went on,
Speaker 3: I've calmed down a lot. I don't have people flying
Speaker 3: out of trees or anything at me anymore. Like we've
Speaker 3: we've gotten smarter over the years, of course, but wrestling
Speaker 3: in general kind of saved my life in many ways,
Speaker 3: as weird as that sounds, I depressed kid, just didn't
Speaker 3: have anything going for me, and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden I found friends and we liked wrestling and just
Speaker 3: kind of evolved from there. And then once they left it,
Speaker 3: I always found a way to like bring wrestling into
Speaker 3: helping me through my mental struggles.
Speaker 1: You know, to this day a lot with your mental struggles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like I guess therapy, you know,
Speaker 3: in a way. It's a weird way to say it,
Speaker 3: but it's kind of like it kind of just gets
Speaker 3: me out of my zone and makes me feel like
Speaker 3: Superman sometimes. I don't know, m.
Speaker 1: Do you have Are you in a relationship at all?
Speaker 3: I am not. I'm single, Okay?
Speaker 1: Have you had any relationships the past?
Speaker 3: A few toxic ones just didn't work out mostly, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm kind of a bigger guy, so like
Speaker 3: I'm not the best looking person on earth.
Speaker 1: I have to ask, do you meet like like these
Speaker 1: these toxic exes? Did you meet them through wrestling or
Speaker 1: through other means.
Speaker 3: Other means, but I don't know, like they always supported
Speaker 3: what I did. It's just things didn't work out pretty
Speaker 3: much every time, and then they just kind of, uh
Speaker 3: pretty much just dumped on me because I'm two nights
Speaker 3: of a guy. Mm hm, Like they just took advantage
Speaker 3: of me and stuff. So it's like, uh, relationships aren't
Speaker 3: really my thing. Wrestling is kind of what got me
Speaker 3: through at all. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Uh So moving forward, I mean, you've been doing this
Speaker 1: for half your life. Uh, I mean for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life? Do you do you plan on? Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you see yourself wrestling?
Speaker 3: I'm hoping to continue for another couple of years for you.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm on a really good run with my local group.
Speaker 3: I ended up finding some guys and we got we
Speaker 3: ended up purchasing a ring and we have a ring
Speaker 3: in my friend's yard and that's what we're doing now.
Speaker 3: And I want to at least keep going on as
Speaker 3: long as i can on it because I'm really enjoying
Speaker 3: what I'm doing currently at this time.
Speaker 1: So I have another question to me, you know, I
Speaker 1: have another question. Uh, you know, I feel like there
Speaker 1: is sort of a double edged sword to build your
Speaker 1: life if I'm getting an accurate picture of you. Uh,
Speaker 1: it can be like a double edged sword to build
Speaker 1: your life around one thing, you know, because.
Speaker 3: It's very self destructive in a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about that.
Speaker 3: Hobbies and stuff.
Speaker 1: Mhm, tell me about that. How how is it as
Speaker 1: a negatively affected you at all to build your life
Speaker 1: solely around wrestling.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, Like I have other hobbies, but that's like
Speaker 3: the big like part of me that it's like the
Speaker 3: dominant part of me, you know.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Like I play Magic of the Gathering. I have a
Speaker 3: group of friends who play magic. I I work quite
Speaker 3: working at a taco bell met a lot of friends there,
Speaker 3: so like I'm a very social person, but like I
Speaker 3: just never find anyone good for me, you know, in
Speaker 3: terms of relationships and stuff.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, Is there anything?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Probably is there anything in your your like to sort
Speaker 1: of keep you moving forward. I feel like it's important
Speaker 1: to have these, uh goals or things you want that
Speaker 1: kind of help you, you know, figure out what your
Speaker 1: next moves are going to be. Would you say that
Speaker 1: you have any like goals for the future that you're
Speaker 1: aiming for insider outside of wrestlem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean outside. I'm hoping to eventually set on
Speaker 3: my role a little bit within the next couple of
Speaker 3: years and hopefully find someone by then and just kind
Speaker 3: of figure things out from there.
Speaker 1: Uh So you said you're gonna do this for about
Speaker 1: two years. What would you what would your life look
Speaker 1: like should you retire from wrestling, Like, what else would
Speaker 1: you want to do?
Speaker 3: Well, that was the hard part because I've already done
Speaker 3: it twice and then it just kind of find find
Speaker 3: it finds its way back to me. So like I've
Speaker 3: already like said, all right, I need to stop, and
Speaker 3: then I just start feeling better, get the catch come back. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I know I'm not going to be going more
Speaker 3: than two or three years because I don't think my
Speaker 3: body could take it. So I've been slowly trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what's the next move, and it's not going
Speaker 3: to be there for me all the time anymore. You know.
Speaker 1: Have you come to any conclusions or leaned towards any
Speaker 1: ideas of what that might be?
Speaker 3: Not one hundred percent sure I have. Like, honestly, it's
Speaker 3: just kind of recently become a thought in my mind.
Speaker 3: And that's actually really good. You brought that up, because
Speaker 3: that's something I've never really addressed, even to myself yet.
Speaker 3: I haven't think I'm kind of avoiding that idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it? Is it a scary thing for you?
Speaker 3: Kind of? I am on the autism spectrum, so anxiety
Speaker 3: is definitely a weakness of mine. So it's it's kind
Speaker 3: of hard to like, you know, I don't really know
Speaker 3: how to explain it.
Speaker 1: Is this something you've been avoiding.
Speaker 3: A little bit? I would say I would say I've
Speaker 3: been avoiding or buying time sleep probably be a bit
Speaker 3: better word for it. I'm installing, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I hope I don't sound like I'm asking,
Speaker 1: like leading questions to make this seem like a bad thing,
Speaker 1: because I actually think think the opposite. I think you
Speaker 1: know what you seem you know, I don't know you,
Speaker 1: but you seem like you're very happy with where you
Speaker 1: are in your life. And that's probably as a result
Speaker 1: of you not thinking so crazy hard about what you're
Speaker 1: going to do when wrestling ends, or you know, what
Speaker 1: life is going to look like later down the line,
Speaker 1: or how you are going to somehow you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: all these questions I'm asking you, you know, how you're going
Speaker 1: to you know, complete whatever is incomplete about your your life.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the happiness that I'm hearing,
Speaker 1: you know, out of you comes from just fucking being
Speaker 1: in the moment, doing the wrestling and living your life.
Speaker 3: You know. I tend to have a bad habbit of
Speaker 3: I have a bad habit of saying here for a
Speaker 3: good time, not a long time. But I should definitely
Speaker 3: be thinking the opposite too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean the way that I'm trying to
Speaker 1: phrase it is like it it doesn't sound like it's
Speaker 1: a bad thing. It sounds like it's a source of
Speaker 1: a lot of joy for it that you're you're you're
Speaker 1: here for their time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of what I live for. Life's too short,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. I think you're doing it right.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that, geck.
Speaker 1: Sean is the anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer or anything else about your
Speaker 1: life that you feel like we could I, uh.
Speaker 3: Could I possibly plug my channel?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Let's here? Yeah? What's the channel?
Speaker 3: All right? I have two of them. One of them
Speaker 3: would be r CW rules for like the U R
Speaker 3: L R c w N r U l Z that's
Speaker 3: my personal one. And then for the federation I'm in now,
Speaker 3: that would be the channel name would be w c
Speaker 3: KEAT like the flame kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Sean, thank you very much for calling.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I appreciate you. Have a great night.
Speaker 1: Like I had an interesting perspective. I felt like I
Speaker 1: maybe I was asking leading questions. I ask questions like that,
Speaker 1: not hoping to get an answer, but sort of with
Speaker 1: a genuine curiosity about it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's a guy who lives his life in
Speaker 1: the days of his life, not stressing out about the
Speaker 1: overall portrait that he's painting across years and years, just
Speaker 1: fucking hanging out and wrestling and being with friends and
Speaker 1: you know. And I kept sort of asking, like, you know,
Speaker 1: is there anything beyond that that you want? And the
Speaker 1: answer kept I I hope I was listening correctly, but
Speaker 1: the answer kept kind of being like, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking so much about, oh I need to
Speaker 1: find a wife. I'm not thinking so much about oh
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do when wrestling ends? Because he's
Speaker 1: enjoying the moment and he kind of started at the
Speaker 1: end thinking of that as a bad thing. But I
Speaker 1: think that's a good thing, because I mean, this is dark,
Speaker 1: but way you know, Fuck, we never know how much
Speaker 1: time we're gonna have. We don't know we're gonna be
Speaker 1: around in five years. We don't know what the fuck
Speaker 1: could happen. They go, I mean, this guy's living in
Speaker 1: the moment, and uh, if you live in the moment
Speaker 1: for eighty years, that's a good life. So shout out
Speaker 1: to him. Hey, folks, it's Lyle here, ending the podcast
Speaker 1: with something a little different. As you guys might know,
Speaker 1: I've been on the road doing live shows, and in
Speaker 1: every city I go to, I also record street interviews
Speaker 1: with random folks walking around. I'll be ending today's podcast
Speaker 1: in several podcasts in the future with an excerpt from
Speaker 1: those street interviews. So here is one from outside the
Speaker 1: Washington Monument in DC with a guy who operates tanks
Speaker 1: for the military. If you want to hear all of
Speaker 1: the interviews I recorded on this day, you can find
Speaker 1: them by going to YouTube dot com slash Lyle forever,
Speaker 1: or just go on YouTube and search for being a
Speaker 1: Gecko at the Washington Monument Okay, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: What's your name, Zach? What's your life like? What are
Speaker 1: you all about?
Speaker 6: An army? Last five years? I got another five years ago.
Speaker 1: Are you aware that you're I'm just gonna say, your
Speaker 1: voice does not match?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I get that a lot. Yeah. People think
Speaker 6: I'm like thirty years old or something like that.
Speaker 1: How old are you?
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 1: Twenty three? Yeah, you're like the voice of your Every
Speaker 1: different part of you is a new age.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I know. Can you guess what I
Speaker 6: did in the army?
Speaker 1: Hell? Optors? Give me one more fucking rocket launchers? Tanks?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I was too tall for him, So there's a high
Speaker 6: limit for tanks.
Speaker 1: What okay, what sort of life analogies have you learned
Speaker 1: from operating tanks?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Like a tank? How in what way is a tank
Speaker 1: like life?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: How is a tank like a relationship? How is the
Speaker 1: tank like running a business?
Speaker 6: So there's four people in the tank?
Speaker 1: Yeah for the United States?
Speaker 6: And uh, it's all about teamwork. So you learn a
Speaker 6: lot about teamwork because if your driver ain't doing something,
Speaker 6: you can't move, your gunner are not doing something, You
Speaker 6: can't hit anything, loader can't not doing his job.
Speaker 1: All right, So, uh, what position were you in the tank?
Speaker 1: Are you doing?
Speaker 6: I was a start off as driver, a loader, then
Speaker 6: I moved up to gunner, and then I finished off
Speaker 6: his tank commander.
Speaker 1: Takes a tank commander. And what did you learn about
Speaker 1: like commanding people? How do you get people to respond
Speaker 1: to you if they were like on their phone playing
Speaker 1: tetris when they should be.
Speaker 6: Respect and they'll respect you because I feel like a
Speaker 6: shitty leader. Excuse me language and all, but uh, I
Speaker 6: was going to respect you, and they're not going to
Speaker 6: do what you say. But if you show that you
Speaker 6: want to work with them and you respect them and
Speaker 6: what they do and you listen to them, they'll follow you.
Speaker 1: Anywhere have you ever been, I mean being in the army.
Speaker 1: You before you became a leader, you were under the
Speaker 1: command of a lot of different leaders. What from your
Speaker 1: experience would you say, Uh, is the difference between a
Speaker 1: good leader and a bad leader?
Speaker 6: So I had both. I had bad leaders and I
Speaker 6: had good leaders.
Speaker 1: Okay, what were the bad leaders like? You know, you
Speaker 1: don't have to give any names.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so this is one dude, I be in
Speaker 6: a game of checkers. Was my sergeant and he was
Speaker 6: like you being in a game of checkers. I was like,
Speaker 6: hell yeah, I did. He smoked me right there push
Speaker 6: ups and stuff. Yeah, and then he was like you sure.
Speaker 6: I was like hell yeah. Because I fooled a lot,
Speaker 6: I had to do it anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I just didn't like to style leadership. And then
Speaker 6: I had other leaders that call check upon me on
Speaker 6: the weekends and stuff like, hey, how you doing. You
Speaker 6: need anything? Just my number. Hey, I'm it's gonna be
Speaker 6: like one hundred miles away, but if you need anything,
Speaker 6: just call me. And I took that and I was like, damn,
Speaker 6: that's a really good way to like lead, and I
Speaker 6: made that in my leadship style.
Speaker 1: So you it sounds like you lead with a lot
Speaker 1: of kindness. Yeah, what's your line between Like there's there's
Speaker 1: a problem. I feel like leaders run into where you
Speaker 1: want to be kind, you want to be benevolent, but
Speaker 1: you also have to fucking lay down the law when
Speaker 1: it comes time. Is that something you you are good
Speaker 1: at doing?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? So there's a there's alignment team working play, like
Speaker 6: when does joke? Ran went on to sure, and I
Speaker 6: try to like shout out with the guys. That's like
Speaker 6: under me and I really haven't had any problems. I mean,
Speaker 6: if there is, we try we like to try to
Speaker 6: solve it on a lowest level, because the further up
Speaker 6: it gets, the more people that know it's just pay
Speaker 6: the ass.
Speaker 1: How about this six year old version interview react If
Speaker 1: he saw you commanding a tank.
Speaker 6: He probably stooped. They'd be like, holy ship, dude, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Where do you, like, like, have you driven this tank
Speaker 1: on like an active battlefield before?
Speaker 6: No, So with the would like I was in California
Speaker 6: with the training. There's a giant training area out there,
Speaker 6: and we train on different armies. I worked with the Japanese,
Speaker 6: the British, the Canadians, the French, to Germans, South Koreans,
Speaker 6: countries from all over. And but we do we do
Speaker 6: war games games. Yeah yeah, So basically it's like it's
Speaker 6: a giant game of laser tag.
Speaker 1: So that so instead of giants, uh fucking rockets, the
Speaker 1: tank shoots lasers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's like it and then we have like
Speaker 6: systems to say, oh, you're dead, and and we also
Speaker 6: shoot blanks and stuff and all like simulated rockets. But yeah,
Speaker 6: that's it's a really cool.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. Man, So are you in a position
Speaker 1: where like if if I have no idea the military works,
Speaker 1: if shit goes down in some place that we and
Speaker 1: we're at war, like, are you you gotta go over
Speaker 1: there and bring that? How do you Where is this
Speaker 1: tank right now?
Speaker 6: Or mine? Yeah? I jumped tanks. My last tank was
Speaker 6: in for Irwin, California.
Speaker 1: It's in California.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 1: So here's what is confusing me is, let's say there's
Speaker 1: a war in Let's say we go to war with France.
Speaker 1: How are you going to get the tank over there?
Speaker 6: Tanks already over there?
Speaker 1: You have tanks everywhere?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so? Or the US military, we have tanks everywhere.
Speaker 6: There's bases everywhere, so I have, like I have the
Speaker 6: opportunity be stationed anywhere in the world basically.
Speaker 1: Really, so there's a tank. You know you got tanks
Speaker 1: in Alaska.
Speaker 6: We don't have tanks over there anymore, there's.
Speaker 1: No if there's an Alaskan war.
Speaker 6: They put me on a gun truck.
Speaker 1: There is a gun truck. Sounds like another name for
Speaker 1: a tank.
Speaker 6: No, no, it's not. There's only one time of tank.
Speaker 6: That's the abrams.
Speaker 1: Okay, is a gun truck? Kind of like you're sitting
Speaker 1: in the back of a pickup truck and you have
Speaker 1: a gun. Yeah, I said, this just a truck.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what they call a gun truck aus there's a.
Speaker 1: Gun gunman in there.
Speaker 6: Kay, makes sense.
Speaker 1: What made you want to get into all this stuff
Speaker 1: in the first place?
Speaker 6: Joined out a high school, travel see the world and
Speaker 6: it worked out for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Because I'm from a small farm town. Okay, it happens
Speaker 6: population like fifteen.
Speaker 1: Interesting, So I would be honest, you know, I feel like,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what you're what you see out there,
Speaker 1: but I feel like the public perception of joining the
Speaker 1: military is split back and forth. And I've talked to
Speaker 1: people who they joined the military and they kind of
Speaker 1: regret it. I have to talk to people like you,
Speaker 1: seems like it's done great things for you. What's your
Speaker 1: kind of like take on that, Like should people join
Speaker 1: the military at a high school or is there like
Speaker 1: a certain kind of person that that would be.
Speaker 6: Good for Everyone has their different views.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I've had soldiers who got out the army because like
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, I'll try, it is not for
Speaker 6: me though, And they got out and thenyone, they're living
Speaker 6: a better life. And some guys are like, oh man,
Speaker 6: that's all I got, just going that. My experience has
Speaker 6: been good. The Armies paid for my entire Batcher's degree.
Speaker 6: I'm about to start my master's and they're going to
Speaker 6: pay for that too. I've got job experience. Uh met
Speaker 6: people from around the world. I enjoy. It does have
Speaker 6: its ups and down. It's definitely roller coaster, but just
Speaker 6: take to go with the bad.
Speaker 1: What do you what are you getting? What do you
Speaker 1: hope to do in the future? What do you getting
Speaker 1: your degree in? H?
Speaker 6: Well, I have an agree in environmental science. What folks
Speaker 6: fishwallefe management and I wanted to work with like the
Speaker 6: National Park Service? Are you used to fish walleye service?
Speaker 6: Helping threatening endangered species?
Speaker 1: That's awesome? Yeah? Well man, what's your name again?
Speaker 6: Zach?
Speaker 1: Zach?
Speaker 3: Zach?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say the people
Speaker 1: in the computer before we go?
Speaker 6: Ah? No, no, good Zack.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for talking to a real get
Speaker 1: go man. Thanks support, Thanks for thank you for your service.
Speaker 6: Thank you for your support.
Speaker 1: Of course, man, take care brother, you too, very nice
Speaker 1: to be shoot. I'm gonna think of you next time
Speaker 1: I see a big tank. Right that is ch I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I'm like scared now. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that they have fucking tanks everywhere there could You could
Speaker 1: be just walking around and look, you're there's a fucking
Speaker 1: tank behind a bush that you don't know about.
Speaker 3: Bed goes on the.
Speaker 1: Line taking your phone calls every night. The Beacon goes
Speaker 1: doing his eye.
Speaker 6: He's teaching you cloud in the mid of your life,
Speaker 6: but he's not really an expert.