WEBVTT - Capítulo 229: Expectations vs. Reality of your 30s 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.400 Are your ears bored? Yeah? 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.200 Are you looking for a new podcast that will make 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:12.680 you laugh, learn, and say get Yeah. 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:14.480 Then tune in to Look At Though Our Radio Season ten. 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.960 Today, Okay, look at Our Radio is a radiophonic novella, 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.760 which is just an extra way of saying a podcast. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.680 Season ten of Look At Thought Our Radio is totally nostalgic. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.280 We're diving in with a four part series about the 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.320 Latinos who shaped pop culture in the early two thousands. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:34.880 But that's not all. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.879 Season ten is also launching in the wake of LA 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:42.600 wildfires and a new Trump presidency. As always, we're leaning 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.159 into community by conducting critical interviews with people leading the 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.760 efforts to rebuild LA and fight back against oppression. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:54.000 Tune in to Look at Our Radio Season ten. Now 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:58.760 that's what I call a podcast. Love with every listen right. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.480 At your fingertips. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:09.840 Loga Olaola Loka Motes, Welcome to Season ten of lok 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:10.720 at Dora Radio. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.560 I'm the Osa and I am Mala. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.840 Lok at Dora Radio is a podcast dedicated to archiving 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.560 our present and shifting the culture forward. You're tuning in 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.360 to Capituro do Sento two twenty. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.800 Nine, Last time on lok Attar Radio. We had the 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.959 immense pleasure of talking to Kathleen Erles, the voice of 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:35.120 Dora the Explorer. You may recognize my voice when I 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:35.800 sound like this. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.480 Hi out, Dora the Explorer. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.160 Go ahead, listen to that episode, leave us a review 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:43.080 and share with a friend. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:48.080 Let's just jump right in into our new segment, climax 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.640 and cry. How did you climax this week? How did 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:52.160 you cry? 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.520 Oh my god? Oh my god? How did I climax 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.480 this week? Well? We picture locked at school. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.240 What does picture lock mean? 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.120 Yes, so picture lock means it's the point in your 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.360 post production process after you make a movie where the 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:13.520 editors lock in the picture, so everything you see on screen, 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:18.320 frame by frame, the actual moving image is done with 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:23.240 the editing process. Now we're not making any changes to 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.919 the picture, but we are in this process of post 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:31.520 production now where we're color grading, sound design is happening, 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:36.119 sound mixing, our composer is creating our score. So as 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.400 a producer on this documentary, it is just a huge 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.920 relief to be in this phase of post production, like 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.079 the movie has been made and now it's just all 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:46.959 the bells and whistles. So that was my climax. 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.560 I have to admit that's a good one. And how 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.760 about you, how is your cry? Did you cry? 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.160 Oh? My god, I think I cry this week and 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.079 I've been sharing this with you. This is an ongoing thing. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.760 Is my dog Boppas is just giving me so much grief? 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.360 I just cannot. I'm just having such a hard time, 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.440 like spending enough time with him, and he's acting out 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.160 in different ways, and so I'm just trying to figure 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:17.880 out how to accommodate the school schedule, the shooting schedule, 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.200 work schedule, and still making sure that like he gets 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:22.560 all the attention that he needs. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.720 What did I tell you would be a solution? Tell 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.200 them what I told you, to get a second dog. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.680 I know that that might ruin you. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.720 It'll destroy my life, but it would really help him, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.200 I know I think he need and you know what, 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.800 I agree with you. And not too long ago, I 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.880 saw an adorable stray dog, yes outside of my apartment, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.880 and I was walking Bopas at the time, and I 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.480 literally stopped dead in my tracks because I saw this precious, 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.320 precious puppy running around out and about. Sometimes people walk 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.880 their dogs without a leash downtown, so I didn't like, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.600 go and snatch him right away, because I thought, Okay, 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.440 well maybe he's with some but he's just not leashed. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.960 And I really, like, I really stood there and watched 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.480 this dog from across the street, and I thought about it, 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.280 like should I snatch up this puppy and bring him 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.440 home and give my dog a companion? But I just 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.000 I'll have a nervous breakdown. It's a lot, it's a lot. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.080 Having a dog is a big responsibility. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.600 Yeah, I totally get it. Yeah, yeah, but that's my climax, 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.560 And cry, my poor papas he's he's acting out and 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.080 it's all attention seeking behavior. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.000 Yes, he's being temperamental. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:35.440 He's being very temperamental. He's tearing things up, he's creating messes. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.400 But he's a dog. It's not his fault, right, Yeah, anyway, 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.200 so that's my climax, and cry, don't call peta. He's fine, 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:46.080 he's very happy and we'll take in cares. Yes, he's 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.480 just he's needy. Yeah, how about you theosa with your climax? 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:51.600 What's your cry for this week? 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.320 So one of the ways that I climax this week, 0:04:55.480 --> 0:05:00.240 which super Nerdy I went to a podcasting event. Both 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.560 went and it was hosted by the Signal Awards and 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:07.560 it was about video forward podcast and the future of podcasting. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.839 And it was out here in Hollywood. It was at 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:15.800 gold Diggers and it was a really cute venue planting seeds. Yes, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:16.760 we'd love to use. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.479 That venue, so whoever's listening, yes. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.040 And it was so cool because like all of our 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.720 creative peers were there and there was a really good 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:29.400 conversation about podcasting. Video is video the future of podcasting? 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.000 How do we embrace it? How do we know if 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.280 it's the right move for our podcast? And I thought 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.039 that was really interesting. And it's a conversation that you 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.880 and I have ongoing. And I just love to nerd 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.520 out over those kinds of panels. I love to be 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.040 in the room with other audio people and just you know, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.800 chatting it up. And so I hadn't been out like 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.400 that in a while, like in the middle of the 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:54.240 week for a work thing, and so that was really nice. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:56.920 It was fun. It was very fun. It was it 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.720 was very nerdy. There was like a YouTube up there. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:06.880 There was somebody from Headspaced Space dayson Afualo, who is 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.560 Drew Afualo's sister was there on the panel because they 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:15.400 co host a podcast called Two Idiot Girls. So Dayson 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.400 brought in the like, you know, content creator side of things, 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.320 and yeah, I was the who's who of podcasting. Yeah, 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:22.120 I think. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.720 It was very cool. I love going. I love when 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.320 we're invited, and I love when we're able to go. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.960 So that was really fun. And then my cry of 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.479 the week. I mean, I've talked about this before. I 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.760 am ruled by the sun and it's been gloomy in 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.839 La and it just bums me out. We had a 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.080 really beautiful, sunny couple of weeks and then gloom this 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.600 past week, and I just I just want to sleep. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.120 I don't want to go outside. I don't want to work. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.599 It's just cozy weather for me. Yes, I hate I 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:50.480 hate it. 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.679 It's uh. La is very tricky in that way where 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.680 we think like, oh my god, we're done with the rain, 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.960 we're done with the gloom. It's sunny now, we're in spring, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.320 we're in summer, and then it reverts right back. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.839 Yes, April is always a gloomy month. I feel it's 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.320 like that saying April showers bring me flowers. We haven't 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.240 really had a rainy April yet, but it is something 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.600 that I know. You know, we get the gloom in April, 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.840 so I'm trying not to let it affect me too much, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.680 but I you know it does. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.680 Yeah, and that's very reasonable. I feel like you and 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.000 I say this every year, like we activate in the summer. Yes, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:27.960 we come alive. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.160 I've been defrosting, is how I've been describing it. I 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.320 normally talk about blooming, but this year I'm defrosting. I 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.880 love it eternally, spiritually, emotionally, I'm defrosting. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.520 It's been a cold winter, yes, in many different ways. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.600 In every sense, in every sense, everywhere, it's been a. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:50.280 Cold, cold, frigid winter. What is that movie? Frigid reminds 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:54.160 me of a quote from a specific movie where she's 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.640 like that, da da da da, you wouldn't be such, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.960 you wouldn't look like such a frigid bitch or something. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.080 Does this ring a bell? 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.560 No? I have to think about it more. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:04.600 Me think about it well. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.000 From Legally Blonde. The quote is from Legally Blonde, and 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:07.520 how does it go? 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.120 It goes, I love your outfit when I but when 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.360 I dress up like a frigid bitch, I try not 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:19.200 to look so constipated. That's so good and that's l 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:20.960 to Vivian Kensington. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.080 Yes, so good. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.400 Anyways, love the word frigid. Thank you for bringing it 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:26.960 in today today's conversation. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:32.679 Actually you brought it in oh yourself quoting yourself and 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:33.160 a movie. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.280 Oh Lord, what's happening? Well, thank you for sharing your 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:37.199 climax and cry. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.520 So now let's move into olas. And this question was 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.640 submitted by one of our listeners on Instagram, and it goes, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.360 how do you navigate a day that changes your entire mood? 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.200 You are now listening to Oh Yes. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.800 I'm a moody girl. I don't know if the listeners 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.240 know that about me, but I'm moody. 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.880 Do you think they've picked that up over ten seasons? 0:08:58.920 --> 0:08:59.520 I hope, so. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.520 Maybe you drop little hints here and there. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.400 Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of moody. I know that about myself. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.400 But if for me, I talked about this recently at 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.000 the beginning of the season, my moodiness is now I 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.360 understand it as anxiety, so I'm able to regulate and 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:19.440 check it and I'm like, girl, it's okay, you know. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.280 But this is also why I exercise a lot, because 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.920 I need the endorphins, the outlet yes. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.120 Yes, I'm really happy that you took up tennis because 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.840 you can hit things. Yes, that's good for you, it's 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:31.560 good for me. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.280 How do you navigate a day that changes your entire mood? 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.920 Oh my god, I mean I think for me. I 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.680 love a good nap. Yes, Sometimes you just I just 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.120 need to go to sleep, Yes, and just be in darkness. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.360 And it feels better. Afterwards You're like, oh, it wasn't 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:48.800 that bad. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.920 Yeah, a little nap, a little rest can really change 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.840 your perspective. This sounds super simple, but like a super 0:09:55.880 --> 0:10:02.000 cold like sparkling water, yes, will lift my spirits? Yes, instantly, 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.440 instantly yes. And what else well, of course, like a 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:10.800 good joint. That'll do it. Those three in combination, actually joint, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:15.920 sparkling water, nap, delicious, cured, cured so much better. 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:17.640 Yes, I love that. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:18.480 Yeah. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.080 I'm a treat girl. I want a little treat, and 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.440 so if I'm having a bad day, you know, it's like, 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.520 let me go drive and get my little ice coffee, 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.679 my ice beverage and a little croissant. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:29.240 You do love a little tree? 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:29.480 You do? 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.320 You do love a little reward? I do? 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.480 Yes, I'm motivated if I say this all the time. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.160 If I don't have a treat a week. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.520 I will die. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.959 Immediately, immediately, I won't have that whither away. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:43.920 Yeah, we can't have that. We need you. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.560 Yeah, so that and I think, yeah, just sometimes you 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.320 just have to let yourself have a bad day and 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.679 then know like tomorrow is a new day. Literally, it's true, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.400 and let yourself feel the feels, feel the anger, feel 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.560 the mooniness. Just don't take it out on other people 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.800 or yourself or yourself. Yes, don't self sabotage, No, because 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:03.400 that can happen. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.280 Sometimes. I've had those moments where it's like, oh my god, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.199 everything is trash, everything is terrible. I'm trash, I'm terrible, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.600 everything sucks. Throw it all away, set it all on fire. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.839 But you can't because then everything will be trash. Yes, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:21.080 you know, it's just a it's just a momentary lapse 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.679 m hm. And you do your little things to make 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.920 you feel better. You put your little band aids on, 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:27.319 and then you'll be okay. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.000 Your emotional band aids, your emotional band aids. Yeah, it's 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.680 like the feminine urge to like run away and like 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.000 run to another country. Yes, frolic in a field to 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.000 gone girl, it forget everyone. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.880 Yeah, yes, start a new identity. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.200 Well, frolic or gone girl. It that's like the only 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.320 in between. There's like no one between. It's like one 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:44.760 or the other. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:45.680 We have two options. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.040 Frolic gone girl, damn yeah. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.800 Or you listen to like some type of escapist podcast, 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.080 or you watch a movie or a TV show. You 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.600 do something that takes you out of your reality for 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.440 a little bit and gives you that temporary relief yes, 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.800 and sense of I'm somewhere. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.720 Else there we go. Yeah, Well, thank you to our 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.760 listener for submitting this question. We hope this gives you 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.280 a little inspo for how to navigate a moody day. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:14.360 It's okay to be moody. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.800 It's okay. That's why we have mood comes and goes. Yeah, 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.000 if we didn't have moods like, we wouldn't need to 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.400 use them. Yes, but we have them to use them. Yes, Yeah, 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:25.240 great question. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.959 Don't go anywhere, lokomotives. We'll be right. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:37.400 Back and we're back with more of our episode. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.319 So today we have a light episode. We've been covering 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:47.040 some politics. We had a great interview last episode, and 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.480 so we just want to kind of connect with y'all 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:55.120 and talk about the thing that consumes I feel women 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.320 right now, especially if you're in your thirties at least, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.760 Like the online chatter is what it means to be 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:01.560 in your thirties. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.840 Expectation versus reality. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.000 Yes, yeah, yeah, So we we're just gonna sit in 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.080 this for a little bit and talk about it. 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.640 We're gonna sit in the dirt, yes, in the mud. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.160 It's not that bad, it's great. I think that like 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.600 when we think about our thirties, we I think talk 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.760 about sex and the city quite a bit because I 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:27.520 think for a lot of people, it's that quintessential womanhood. Yes, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:32.920 single womanhood, dating, womanhood in a big city, making decisions 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.160 for yourself, good or bad, making a mess, having fun, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:37.679 falling in love, falling. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.760 Out of love, going out all the time. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:45.280 Constantly different outfits every episode, yes, no repeat outfits. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.520 Yes, brunching all the time. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.520 Constantly brunching. And so I think there's a maybe that 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:54.800 creates an expectation. But what's the reality right Well, first. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.560 Of all, a lot of people are talking about Kerry 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.160 Bradshaw as a character I feel on TikTok especially, I 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.160 love Carrie. I think she's a messy character. She's written 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.560 to be messy, she's written to be real, and people 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.880 say they want a messy woman, but they don't actually 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:09.840 like when they. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.199 Get one, when they actually see it, yes. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.960 They're like, girl, act better. No, she's dumb, Like that's 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.720 part of it. There's growth, there's developments, like she's gonna 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:20.600 make bad choices. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:21.760 Yeah, that's the point. 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.200 That's the point. She's going to chase after the man 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:25.400 who doesn't really want her. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.800 Yes, that's the point. That's the point. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.480 And in addition to that, I've seen folks say, or 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:37.600 women on TikTok specifically, say, like Carrie Bradshaw and the 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.200 cast are only thirty two in season one, amazing, like 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.640 your season one is barely starting right, like it's okay, Yeah, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.280 if you don't have it all figured out, it's fine, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.560 and kind of that perspective of like you're just in 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:49.440 your season one. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.040 It's true. And so in that sense, I think there 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.240 are aspects of a show like Sex and the City 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:59.800 that they are capturing, like a messiness, an internal ca 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:06.760 like this, troubles with love and with with relationships and 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:10.440 conflicts with friends, like that's all in there. What they 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.920 don't capture, of course, because it wouldn't be glamorous or entertaining. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.400 Is the minutia, right of the thirties. 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.440 They also, I mean, and this has been talked about 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.680 in depth everywhere else, but Sex and the City captures 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.760 a very specific type of New York. Right. It's an 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.560 all white cast, they're all at least in the original series, 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.160 they're all heterosexual. Right. It's a very specific type of 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.520 womanhood that's being represented, so of course want to remember that. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.680 But yeah, it doesn't cover the ins and outs of 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.520 what it means to be growing and being your thirties 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.240 and there. But there are a couple other shows at 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.000 least that we're going to be talking about today, or 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.600 at least some type of representation of thirties. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.080 Of women in their thirties, And there's just I don't know, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.640 they seem there seems to be a focus on setting 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.480 these types of stories in New York. I think because 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.880 of the whole concrete jungle idea and making your way 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:07.320 through this crazy, glamorous, difficult to live in place, and 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.720 it just is this backdrop for I think a lot 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.960 of like coming of age and coming into one's own 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.040 type stories. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:14.320 Right. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.400 I feel like stuff in La tends to be more 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.800 about well, if it's Latino, it's about gentrification and immigration 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.640 and you're Alwilita. But for everybody else, it's like chasing 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:25.680 your dreams. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.240 Yeah, you know, you know, I think what show does 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.800 cover that kind of My new show that you talked 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.120 about is Insecure, right, that's obviously based in La Yeah, 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.520 And I think that was a really great representation of 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:41.280 like being broke, trying to figure it out, dating gone wrong, friends, friends, 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.200 like having messy friend groups sometimes, and like fights. I 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.400 think that was I think the most realistic representation in 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.720 like a diverse way, if you will. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.440 I agree. I agree, And I you know, the origins 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.960 of the show being like Diaries of Awkward Black Girl 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.920 and that kind of being the core of Lisa's character, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.760 like she's awkward, yeah, and so awkward things are constantly happening, 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.080 which is very real. Life is filled with awkward moments, 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:13.400 absolutely awkward interactions, awkward conversations, awkward exchanges. And that does 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:17.480 not go away in your thirties. No, it doesn't. Maybe 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.240 I think I'm less embarrassed or like I care less, 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.560 but I'm like this, I'm having an awkward moment. I'm 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.560 being awkward right now. This is awkward. 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.640 I was just talking about that with my best friend Jackie. 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.280 Was that when as a kid, I used to be 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.840 ruled by embarrassment, like I wouldn't do and it really 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.639 limited me now looking back, like I wouldn't do things 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.359 if I was going to be embarrassed if there was 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.479 now like a we use the word cringe, right, if 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.240 there was like a cringe element of something, I wouldn't 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:49.320 do it. I was very very sensitive to like being perceived, 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.119 what would others think about me? And that can really 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.040 limit you and what you do and how you move 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.680 and with your growth as a kid, right as an adult, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.480 I've let a lot of that go. So yeah, there's 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.679 still times where like, oh my god, did I say that? Okay, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:07.320 are they judging me? Is this embarrassing? You know, don't 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.600 get me wrong, Like I still have those moments, but 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.280 they don't rule my life the way they did when 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:12.920 I was a kid. 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:17.920 That's growth, Yeah, that's growth. Yeah, it's a working past 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.560 that can be hard. I think working being an artist 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.240 and working in the arts, of course we're sensitive about 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.240 our shit. But over the years, I think, I know 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.280 I've had to learn like I cannot let the audience 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:33.320 scare me, and doing stand up has you cannot be 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.480 afraid of the audience or they will eat you alive. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:36.800 I could never do stand up. 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.879 It's fun, but it is hard because you have to 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.399 just be prepared that everyone in the room might hate you. 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:47.000 See, this is why I can't do stand up. I 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:52.439 have rejection sensitivity. I will die I combusted on stage 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:53.160 on the stage. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.040 Yeah, no, it's I mean, and over the years there 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.200 have been those examples of comedians whosh out on stage 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.719 when the audience is just not with them and not 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.359 vibing with them, and that's a career ruiner. Yeah, you 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:11.240 really have to be okay with the complete silence or 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.480 the outright hatred of you. And I think even with 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.720 the podcast, like over the years, you know, we've gotten 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.440 comments here and there and reviews and criticism, and if 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.200 we let that stop us, we wouldn't be where we are, 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.680 you know. So Yeah, I think I don't remember how 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:30.600 we got into this conversation. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.040 Me either, But I want to say, like, even in 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.360 just mean, with ten seasons, right, if you go back, 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.359 sometimes we go back to season one, season two and 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.040 we're like, oh, yes, I cringe a little bit a 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.159 little bit love what we were doing, but sometimes the 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.000 delivery I'm like, ooh, I would say that differently now, 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.639 but of course, I mean it captured that moment in 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.359 time in our twenties, what we were learning, what we 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.240 were on at that moment, like what was really important 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:55.720 to us at the moment, and a lot of that 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.520 still is true now, but the delivery is just a 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.600 little different. The frontal lobe has developed. 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.399 Truly, and we have to give ourselves credit because where 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.480 we maybe like could have been more eloquent or well 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:12.040 spoken or well researched or whatever. In the early years, 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.000 like there were a lot of people like putting out 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.840