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Speaker 1: Season ten of Look At Thought Our Radio is totally nostalgic.

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Speaker 1: Season ten is also launching in the wake of LA

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Speaker 2: Loga Olaola Loka Motes, Welcome to Season ten of lok

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Speaker 2: Lok at Dora Radio is a podcast dedicated to archiving

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Speaker 2: our present and shifting the culture forward. You're tuning in

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Speaker 1: Nine, Last time on lok Attar Radio. We had the

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Speaker 2: Hi out, Dora the Explorer.

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Speaker 2: Let's just jump right in into our new segment, climax

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Speaker 2: and cry. How did you climax this week? How did

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Oh my god? How did I climax

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Speaker 2: So today we have a light episode. We've been covering

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know, I think what show does

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Speaker 2: It's rough, it's rough, don't condone it. But that's definitely

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Speaker 1: money there, but then that also means there's more expenses,

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00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: more work, and more work. I think that maybe going

437
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: back to like our favorite movies The Thirteen Going On,

438
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: thirty and Right and and Sex and the City. And

439
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: I know that there are others out there, but I

440
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: feel like in all these films, like everyone's always wearing

441
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: open toad shoes. Yes, no one's ever wearing a clothes

442
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: toed shoe. No one's ever wearing a sneaker.

443
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: You've been wearing a lot of open toad shoes lately.

444
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: Is that happening? Is that you're channeling this like rom

445
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: com main.

446
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: Girl maybe, but you know it's spring and I love

447
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: a sandal. I am an Elle girl. I love a sandal.

448
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: But also because of school, because of being in production,

449
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: like you have to wear shoes, you know, on set,

450
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: and if you if you're on campus, you'll notice like

451
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: nobody is wearing sandals at the School of Cinematic specifically. Yeah,

452
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: like everyone's prepared to like like run electricity and set

453
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: up lighting and handle equipment at all times.

454
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: I would wear my little heels to campus all the time,

455
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: strutting through Annenberg. Yeah, I wasn't operating a heavy machinery.

456
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that's just kind of the style is

457
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: like you're in sneakers, you're in boots, and uh, you're

458
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: like ready to do manual labor. Is kind of the

459
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: vibe that's like the filmmaker uniform.

460
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: So do you think that's that kind of effected your

461
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: personal style in a way where when you're off campus,

462
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: not working doing this instead of this type of work,

463
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I'm going to dress up. I'm going

464
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: to wear that.

465
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, And especially because I've been in the

466
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: role of producer this semester, I feel like producers have

467
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more like we're on the phone, we're

468
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: answering emails, we're running around, you know, Like I can

469
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: be the producer and I can like wear a skirt

470
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: and like a kitten heel, and that's more acceptable. If

471
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: I'm operating the camera, I can't. That's great, right, you know.

472
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I'm like, Okay, I'm tired and

473
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: I want to wear I just want to throw on

474
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: my chunk glass.

475
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: You know that makes sense?

476
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you expectation versus reality?

477
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean thirteen going on thirty was definitely formative

478
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 2: for a lot of millennials and even I saw this

479
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 2: fabulous meme the other day about how there was like

480
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: this representation of journalists in rom coms and how that

481
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: was the expectation that you had for your life if

482
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: you wanted to be a journalist.

483
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: Yes.

484
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: So it's like Andy Anderson from How to Lose a

485
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: Guy in Ten Days of course, right, she was writing

486
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 2: like at a fashion style magazine and she just wanted

487
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: to write about politics. She wanted to be a serious journalist, right, Yeah,

488
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: but she's in her cute little outfits. And same with

489
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: Jenna Rink from thirteen going on thirty right, also a journalist,

490
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 2: also a journalist, you know. So I'm like, wow, the journalists,

491
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: like that was a job that was like the glamorous

492
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: fun job because at one point you could make a living,

493
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 2: a good living off of being a journalist. Yeah, And

494
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: I think that that moment from the early two thousands,

495
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: mid two thousands brom coms captured that that job and like, oh,

496
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like grow up and be a journalist and

497
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: it's going to be.

498
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: Fabulous, and I'm going to move to New York City.

499
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: And I'm going to move to New York and wear

500
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: my fabulous, little open to heels on the subway every way,

501
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: and I'm going to write about politics and I'm going

502
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: to do a magazine rebrand and it's going to be great, fabulous,

503
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: you know. So definitely expectation, not so much the reality.

504
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: It didn't move to New York.

505
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: No.

506
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: I stayed in LA.

507
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's that which is which is, and you know,

508
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: La is a dream location for so many it is.

509
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: I have no regrets. I have no regrets. I think it.

510
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: I think that there's that fantasy, right, that expectation of

511
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: like I'm going to be the person that moves to

512
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: New York right at some point in my life. And

513
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: I've let that part go. I'm like, that's that was

514
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: not my path, and I'm confident and secure in that

515
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: path that I took. But I mean, that would be

516
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 2: the expectation that I think I had as a kid.

517
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: I like, even as a kid, I remember we were

518
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: in middle school assigned like you had to write to

519
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: a college and ask for like them to send you

520
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: a brochure because they were teaching us like how to

521
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: write a formal letter, okay, and so they had us

522
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: practice and send to a university. Girl I wrote to

523
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: fit really, Yes, the Fashion Institute, because I was like,

524
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to be I'm going to work in fashion

525
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: and I'm going to move to New York. Of course,

526
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: little like middle schooler, right, And they wrote me back

527
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: and they sent me a brochure, and I remember being

528
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: like so excited about it. Right, Obviously my life went

529
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: on it. I went and took a different path. Love

530
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: the path I'm on, But I mean that's that would

531
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: be like that expectation I had maybe as a kid,

532
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: and then even in high school and then in my twenties, right,

533
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: still kind of figuring out like what does this career

534
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: look like? And you know the reality is entrepreneurs. Yeah,

535
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: wild did not envision that for my.

536
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: Life business owners.

537
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's and I don't mean that in a

538
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: negative way. It's just not the path that I saw

539
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: myself on.

540
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

541
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: I love the path. We're on it, we're learning. But

542
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: that would be like that for me that if I'm

543
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: holding them together. Expectation reality, Oh my god, I'm an entrepreneur.

544
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: Right, what right?

545
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

546
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: And we definitely, I mean, I know I identify as

547
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: an artist first, and I think you identify as an

548
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: artist first, and it's coming to terms with the reality

549
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: that maybe in film and television one can just be

550
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: a painter.

551
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: Yes, right, Yes, you can just be a journalist living

552
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: in New York.

553
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: Could just be your craft. But you have to fund

554
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: your craft, and you have to monetize your craft. Yes,

555
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: And so to be an artist is to be a

556
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: business owner.

557
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: Yes. How was Carrie Bradshaw sustaining her fabulous life for

558
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: Fabulous Shoes with a weekly column.

559
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Once a week? Yes, one, there was that one episode

560
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: where she was like broke. Yeah, and she went and.

561
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: Asked, well, she has all her friends basically.

562
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: Money but yes, and they were like no.

563
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: No, well they all wanted to give her money except

564
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: for the one that had the money, Charlotte. Yes, and

565
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: that was like a thing.

566
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: And she and Carrie was upset about that. Yes, basically

567
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: like how could you not give me money?

568
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: How could you not offer me money? You live on

569
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Fifth Avenue and like by the park, Like it.

570
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Was like, your financial issues are not my problem.

571
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: Exactly, like get it together.

572
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: Sweet. She wasn't wrong, No.

573
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: She was not wrong. She was not wrong. I think Carrie.

574
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: I give Carrie a live benefit of the doubt all

575
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: the time. Of course, she's like when I watch her,

576
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I see it, girl, Like, I don't agree

577
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: with it, but I see it. She doesn't want it

578
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: to be offered the money. I don't think she would

579
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: have taken it. She did end up taking it because

580
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: Charlotte did offer in the end. That was like the arc, right,

581
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: But I think she just wanted the.

582
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: Gesture yes, like show me that you care about me

583
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: in a way that you're capable of coming through on. Yes,

584
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: you know that maybe asking the other girls wouldn't be

585
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: as feasible, but it's it's feasible for you. Yes, Yes,

586
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: after her divorce, she did very well after her divorce.

587
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: Well yeah, And that's another one, is okay, expectation versus reality.

588
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: I think in these pieces of media, divorce is something

589
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: that you come out of with something tangible right, and

590
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: it sets you up and it's almost something to celebrate.

591
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: But I think in reality we're not divorced. But in reality,

592
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a much messier, more painful, and more

593
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: expensive thing.

594
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, lookomotives, We'll be right back, and we're

595
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: back with more of our episode.

596
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: What else? Oh?

597
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: Oh?

598
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: So another like reality of being in our thirties. Oh,

599
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: my god, just like the constant cleaning, just constantly cleaning, right,

600
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: constantly cleaning, and it gives me so much perspective. Like

601
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: growing up, I remember being like, why is my mom

602
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: so insane about cleaning? She's like always up in arms,

603
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: like running, like like it was a constant stress. Yes,

604
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, and like so and so their house is

605
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: always immaculate and why no, no, no, no, no, no, no, all that.

606
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: But our house was also like people were always at

607
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: our house, like friends, the track team, the cross country team,

608
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: like sleepovers. We always had people in our house like friends,

609
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: and we would host parties and all kinds of things.

610
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: And so it was also this like, oh, we're always

611
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: getting ready because people are coming over. You know, someone's

612
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: coming over. We gotta get ready. Someone's coming over. We

613
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: gotta get ready.

614
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: The house has to be clean for people to come over.

615
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And as an adult, it's like, okay, now

616
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: I understand why it was just this constant loop. Yes,

617
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: because it's a constant just reality is one is constantly cleaning,

618
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: and like constantly buying paper towels, constantly buying toilet paper,

619
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: constantly buying swift or wet white.

620
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: It's expensive, it's expensive. Yeah, you know what else, my

621
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: expectation and reality look very different. And I feel this

622
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: is partly based on location. But in Sex and the City,

623
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: the girls were going out all.

624
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: The time, constantly.

625
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: How did they have the stamina at their age, because

626
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm thirty one and I don't have the stamina no

627
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: at all.

628
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: No.

629
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: Granted we live through a global pandemic. Lots of things

630
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: are happening. It makes sense, right, it's fictional. Yeah, they

631
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: were going out all the time. But I also makes

632
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: me wonder, is it also because they lived in New

633
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: York and it's still walkable. So for us, it's like

634
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: it could be a whole journey to go out. It's

635
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: true because it's maybe further out we have to take

636
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: an uber or maybe we're driving, but then there's traffic,

637
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: Like it's a whole thing to go out in LA

638
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: And so sometimes that will determin me like, oh, I

639
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: don't really want to get ready to go out and

640
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: to drive, and I'll stop myself.

641
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: No truly, I mean yeah, that would be.

642
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: My expectation and reality that's a little different.

643
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: The expectation is like, oh, it's Friday, we're going out.

644
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: It's Saturday, we're going out.

645
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: Again, cocktail hour, happy hour.

646
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: Yes, the reality is like how many happy hours can

647
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: we really go to if you have to drive to

648
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: all of them? Yes, A, yes, you know. And B

649
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: It's like I feel like the women in Sex and

650
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: the City, they were in their New York City apartments,

651
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: So I think it's easy to like, oh, it's your

652
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: tiny apartment.

653
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: You're just hopping out, like got to get out. I'm

654
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Speaker 2: going to go to my neighborhood bar, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: go somewhere fabulous, because they were going to fababulous places.

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Speaker 2: They were just going to the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: Water, And so I think about a place like New

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Speaker 1: York and instead of staying in you like your tiny

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Speaker 1: little box that you live in, like you got to

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Speaker 1: get out right and you don't have a yard and

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Speaker 1: you don't really have your neighborhood. Is like I guess

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Speaker 1: it's a neighborhood, right, but like I wouldn't. I would

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Speaker 1: feel probably that claustrophobia that makes sense, you know, Yes,

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Speaker 1: let me get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Something I'm trying to do I'm trying to channel, especially

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Speaker 2: this summer is just more impromptu gatherings, hangs, cocktail hours,

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Speaker 2: if you will, Sananda and I had this day last

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Speaker 2: last week where we were just like out and about

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Speaker 2: the whole day and it was lovely and we hadn't

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Speaker 2: had one of those days in a while where we

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Speaker 2: were just like unplanned, let's just like see where we go.

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Speaker 2: And we ended up going to like all our favorite

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Speaker 2: little spots. But it was really nice and we were

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Speaker 2: there just us too, like having our cocktail that heen

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Speaker 2: joined us, and there was this group of people. It

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Speaker 2: started small, it was just like four people like having

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Speaker 2: their cocktail as a friend group, and then it got

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Speaker 2: bigger and bigger and bigger, and like people just kept

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Speaker 2: popping in like as it went, and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: the way my friend's schedules are, like I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I could text them right now and be like

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Speaker 2: come grab a drink, right, but I'm aspiring to have

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Speaker 2: that kind of hang this summer or it's just it's

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Speaker 2: just random spontaneous. If you're free, you're free, come grab

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Speaker 2: a drink, come to the park, come hang out. I

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Speaker 2: think that's like that, just like that spontaneity that makes

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Speaker 2: life so fun. Like, oh you know, I got to

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Speaker 2: see my friend today and it was lovely. Yeah, we

689
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Speaker 2: got to hang out and it wasn't planned. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: someone's birthday. I feel like the older we get, the

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Speaker 2: more it's about the birthday gatherings, the holidays, which is great,

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Speaker 2: but like all that in between time is so important,

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Speaker 2: and so that's something I'm like trying to orchestrate as

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Speaker 2: the planner of my friend group.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I love Please include me in

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Speaker 1: the impromptu hang Yes, I will invite you. It just

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Speaker 1: might be there.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I might be available.

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Speaker 1: She just might attend. But yeah, expectation versus reality. I

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Speaker 1: think thirties are fabulous. I'm having a wonderful time. I'm

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Speaker 1: like continuing to learn and grow as a person and

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Speaker 1: just figuring things out. Continue. And that's part of it too,

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Speaker 1: is like it's not all figured out by the time

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Speaker 1: you're thirty. No, it's a continuous process. It never ends.

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Speaker 1: It never ends.

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Speaker 2: It's also never too late to pivot. No, I've never

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Speaker 2: been less afraid to not have a plan. And I'm

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Speaker 2: such a planner. But it's like, ooh, sometimes we pivot,

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Speaker 2: And I agree, not having you're not going to have

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Speaker 2: everything figured out by the time you're thirty.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: I also wasn't afraid to turn thirty. I feel like

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Speaker 2: with the I mean, we talked about positive representations right

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Speaker 2: of like being you're thirty and being a young woman,

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Speaker 2: or just being a woman in your thirties. But I

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Speaker 2: feel like, you know, the culture, pop culture at least

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Speaker 2: has had these representations of like being afraid to turn thirty, right.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about, you know, in the series Friends,

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Speaker 2: when we start, everyone's in their twenties. Yeah, at least

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Speaker 2: the characters are. And so there's an episode about everyone

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Speaker 2: turning thirty and they're all miserable, like it's horrible, their

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Speaker 2: life is over. They didn't do everything they thought they

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Speaker 2: were going to do by the time they were thirty,

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Speaker 2: and that's like the whole point of the episode. I

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00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: didn't feel afraid to turn thirty. I felt like, I'm

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Speaker 2: ready to turn thirty. I'm ready to put these twenties

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Speaker 2: behind me. Let's see what happens. Thirties have been rough,

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Speaker 2: let me say, but there's also been a lot of

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Speaker 2: like beautiful things, lots of growth, lots of lovely, wonderful things.

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Speaker 2: It's still life. It's still challenging. I think whatever decade

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Speaker 2: you're in and we're still young. That is something I've

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Speaker 2: been telling myself is young. I'm sorry, y'all, we have

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Speaker 2: got to let go of this like Signora mentality. I'm

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Speaker 2: so old. Yes to Senora, No, get out, get out,

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Speaker 2: do something, do everything, do everything. We're so young.

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Speaker 1: Yes. My mom is in her sixties and she's still dance.

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Speaker 1: My mom's a professional dancer. She still performs. She still dances. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And she's in rehearsal every week, and she's performing every week.

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Speaker 1: And it's like hard work. It's very physical. It's like

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Speaker 1: very exhausting work. But she's an incredible shape. My mom

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Speaker 1: has so much energy.

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Speaker 2: Your mom has a lot of stamina. Your mom also

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Speaker 2: likes to go out, like with her friends, like they

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Speaker 2: like to go dancing. Yeah, like little events.

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Speaker 1: They go out for their little margarita, they go out

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Speaker 1: for their little brunches. They have like their spots like

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Speaker 1: to go to. For a while, my mom was hosting

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Speaker 1: this Mesa and Mimosa's event where she would like her

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Speaker 1: and her friends would pick a different church and go

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Speaker 1: to Mass and then get Mimosa's afterwards. They're constantly out.

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Speaker 1: If anything, my mom lives more of a sex in

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Speaker 1: the city life than I ever have truly, truly yes,

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00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: and they're getting they get together, they talk about their

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00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: husbands and their ex husbands and their next husbands. You know,

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Speaker 1: for them, it is fabulous, so she to me. Even

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Speaker 1: sometimes when I'm with my mom, I feel like I'm

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00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: the less energetic one. Yes, you know, and so she is.

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Speaker 1: This just reminder that like youth.

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Speaker 2: And energy is, it's a mindset.

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Speaker 1: It's a mindset and that can carry with you even

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Speaker 1: into your sixties and seventies.

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Speaker 2: I love that. That's a great, great place to pause. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: we're still young. We will continue to be young.

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Speaker 1: We will forever young for every young.

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Speaker 2: Let's go grab a cocktail. Thank you for listening to

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