WEBVTT - The Cheese Stands Alone: Food Crimes 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.760 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.720 Saren. It's Elizabeth, Hello, Elizabeth Dutton, It's Saren. 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:07.440 How are you doing. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:09.120 I'm good. I'm really good. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:10.479 If you look happy, thank you? 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:15.280 So do you listen? Career, you know what's ridiculous? 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.520 Yes, lean in, I got one. Okay, okay. George Steinbrenner, 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.640 the owner of the ridiculous right New York Yankees owner. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:23.120 Yes. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.440 When he first bought the team, he had to endure 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.240 one of the strangest sports conferences of all time. And 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.199 it doesn't involve him or Billy Martin. Oh Billy, yeah, right. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.640 So George Steinbrand buys the team. At the time, the 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.400 Yankee manager was the dude Ralph howk Right. He comes 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.559 into Ralph. He's like, look, I want the players who 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.000 have got long hair to cut it because the Yankees 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.360 clean cut look right. It's why Don Mattingly had to 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.000 shave his mustache. Anyway, Steinbrener's like, yeah, all of these 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:50.560 guys look clean and stuff. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:50.720 Right. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.520 The manager's laughing because he's like, you have no idea 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.200 what's going on in your team? Bro? Because and I 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.960 thought this was wild. In nineteen seventy three, in March, 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.120 two Yankees, Frisbee and this dude, Mike Kekech They called 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.840 a press conference and they told the world that they 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:09.880 were swapping wives and families. He said, it just happened. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.800 It wasn't playing. Peterson said. During the summer, the two 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.280 teammates they talked about, like you know, trading wise, right, 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.479 So they did it for a week and they then decided, okay, 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.000 we got to go back, you know, after it was 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.759 the summer. It was fun, right, and then eventually one 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.679 of them was like, I got I gotta go back, right. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.280 He's like, he said, quote I told Marylynd, I just 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.600 have to have Susan, And Maryland said she was in 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.199 love with Mike. So they decided that the children should 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.440 stay with the mothers and then they you know and 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.600 stay in their own homes. And then the two left 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.360 hand pitchers switched and partners, right, and they said, quote, 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.440 there are degrees of love involved. We tried something with 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.480 a common understanding. It was completely a four way thing, right. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.200 So the two decided they now need to let the 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:50.040 world know about this. 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.600 That's my like, so that means I actually know someone 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.280 who does this. His family was part of that, like 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.240 where the parents just all. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:58.320 Sweat, will swap it out. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.440 And then they went forward from there, but like to 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:01.680 tell the world. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.360 Well they wanted this was the seventies one, so they 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.360 told their GM Lee mcfail. Then they told manager Ralph 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:08.880 Holk and they're like, hey, we gotta like let the 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.560 world know, right. So they go out and now after 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.280 the press conference or manager Ralph Hoak, he's like, ask 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.320 why of the reporters, what the hell's going on your team? 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.960 It's surprisingly, dude's chill. He's like, quote, they live their 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.040 own lives and they got a lot of years to live. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.440 If you're not happy, you only go through the world 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.679 one time, and why go through it unhappy. Some people say, 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.760 you have to stay together for the sake of the kids. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.640 We've seen people living together and they're practically separated. So 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.000 they did this and then they managed for years to 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:42.200 have this swap right. Eventually, though, one couple broke up 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.520 and one couple is still happily married to this day. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.240 And they said it was not a sex thing, it 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:48.520 was not a cheap swap. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.600 They should have just keep it, keep it their own business. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.920 I mean, I'm always encouraging everyone to mind their own business, 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.680 but also keep your business. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.760 Out of the Oh my god. And it made the 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:00.840 pay papers. You can see here. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:01.640 Are you're kidding? 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.720 Yank pictures? Trade Wives. That's the cover of New York paper, 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.600 The Daily News. Yeah. In twenty eleven, Matt Damon and 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.880 Ben Affleck we're gonna make a movie about. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.920 They were gonna swap No. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.680 That would be fun. I guess j Lo and Matt 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.360 and Matt together Matt love no. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:25.400 Joe, and then you swapped it the other way. You 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:26.799 know what. There are a lot of permutations. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.840 They were going to make a movie called The Trade 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.720 about this, and they decided that's not a good idea. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:32.440 Yeah, thank you. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.280 They stuffed so in saying I'm telling you about it. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.920 That is ridiculous, Right, that's super ridiculous. Do you want 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.440 to know what else is ridiculous? 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:41.120 Her for it? 0:03:41.200 --> 0:04:04.920 I love it, tell it stealing cheese? Yeah, this is ridiculous. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:09.400 Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons. 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:14.760 It's always ninety nine percent murder free and percent ridiculous. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.000 I talk about food crimes on this show. Yeah, I 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.560 would say often because I share a lot of horrible 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:22.160 food mesh. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.120 Those are food crimes in my books. Yeah, and I've reported. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.039 You mustard skittles. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.520 God, no, we know what they are. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:34.440 Ice cream, all right. The only actual crime involving food 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.040 that I've talked to you about is the Sonoran hot 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.880 dog feud, which was amazing. 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:40.120 You know. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.760 Since then, every time I see a cart selling Sonoran 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.760 hot dogs, I've already eaten and I'm not interested. So 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.440 I haven't tried when you really, yeah, I've seen the 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:52.159 cart like a couple of times after Yeah, there's always 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:53.560 one after the A's game, when you walk. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.440 Out fingers going come this way. 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.400 Yeah, and I see it. I'm always like just not. 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.679 Hungry given to the flavor. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:01.920 I need to try one. 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:03.600 You do, I'll thank you for one. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.640 So such as life with that. There was also succulent 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:07.320 Chinese meal. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:07.520 Man. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:09.760 Yes, but we didn't talk about the meal itself. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.000 There, that's true, not really knowing. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.960 So here's the things, Aaron, here's something fun about me? 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:15.560 Oh, please share? Are we sharing? 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.159 I try to explain to people that there are three 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.080 main things that I like to talk about. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.440 Okay, gardening, okay, yes, I can test to that. Dogs, 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:24.760 I can totally attest to that. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:25.320 And food. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.520 I haven't even expanded to say dogs and other animals 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:30.880 that are charming like dogs. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:37.640 Yeah, there's wolves, yeah yeah, so animals, so we'll say gardening, animals, 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:39.960 non reptiles, and food. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.200 Yeah, I'm with it right. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:46.799 There are obviously other things music, keeping the a's in Oakland, California, history. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:52.159 Californ history of California, gold in general, costco Y, California. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.000 If you've never seen the TV show California's Gold, it 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.880 was a PBS show that ran out here, find it online. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.120 The host has an amazing Southern accent. He goes around 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:02.440 California going, well. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:07.840 All, be so enthusiastic yourself. He is so enthusiastic as 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:08.520 well he should be. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.320 He'll be talking to somebody who has like a sock collection. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:15.000 Right exactly. So I like I do like talking about food, yes, 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.600 and I love to cook, I love to eat things, 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.520 all these things. So it makes sense that today I'm 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.920 going to give you a Schmorgesborg of food crimes, a 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:29.360 veritable cornucopia, a buffet of one poo poop platter of 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:30.640 criminal capers. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:32.400 So now I'm thripchip. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.880 So many of these are crimes that have been suggested 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.440 to us over the course of the show going back decades, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.880 and they don't. But they don't have enough meat on 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:47.080 their bones to be full episodes on their own. So 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.120 today we have a buffet. Okay, just a little sampler. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.279 Let's begin with our most requested crime. Yes, we have 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.080 a most most requested food crime for us to cover, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.880 for us to car. So it's something that I've been 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.600 told you have a lot of at your house talking 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:03.480 about maple syrup. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.359 Honey, Oh, maple syrup, yes, I mean pretty into all 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:07.200 the sweet syrups. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.000 Yeah, you're a syrupy kind of guy. So maple syrup, 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.880 real maple syrup, not the brown corn syrup goo. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.040 No, no, no high freak toast current and brown in it. No. 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:20.360 Real maple syrup is expensive, yes, yeah, top that top 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.240 You can get a good deal at Costco. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.239 By the oh Man. I was recently in New England. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:25.000 I was wild. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.680 Oh, were you just like suckling on a tree tree 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:35.080 like vampire? Did you know that maple syrup runs almost 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.520 two thousand to thirty five hundred dollars US a barrel 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:39.000 these days? 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:40.200 Yes, it is very expensive. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.800 It's up from thirteen hundred dollars a barrel in twenty sixteen. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:43.400 Prices. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.239 It's going up like gold and with global warming, who's 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.760 saying it's more expensive than crude oil? 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.160 It should be more valuable, right. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.480 So Vermont makes the most syrup of any US states. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.080 But Quebec, Yes, they put out seventy percent of the 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:03.400 world's maple syrup supplying. Yeah, that's the leaves exactly. So 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:08.640 the Global Maple Syrup Strategic Reserve is located in rural 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.640 Quebec east of Montreal. Monreal. It's managed by the Federation 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.400 of Quebec Maple Syrup Producers. Yes, which if you're if 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.760 you're going to do the acronym francis, it's f p 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.400 a Q. Yeah, it's their OPEC and they oftentimes are 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.680 compared to OPEK. Oh really, it's a government sanctioned union 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.120 of syrup. It's a cartel. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:29.560 Yes. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.839 So they managed the supply of syrup to balance out 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.320 the good and bad years of production so we never 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.560 miss out. Yeah. So it's just consistent syrup. That's right. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.320 So you have a boom time you take it, you know, 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:46.080 set it aside. Summer of twenty twelve, Monsieur Gavreau. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.560 Michelle, you say it again. I like the way you 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:49.080 say no. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.920 He was one of the f PAQ. He was at 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.000 one of the f PAQ warehouses to take inventory. So 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.840 there's like this huge stack of barrels going up to 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.240 the sky. Yeah, and he's got he's got like a 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.319 piece of chalk in the chocolate marking him down. So 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.840 he has to climb the barrels to get to the 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.840 top to start the count. So he climbs, and he 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.880 gets up to the top and the whole thing starts 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.640 to wobble. It's gonna give He freaks out and he's like, oh, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.320 it doesn't collapse. It almost but if it was. If 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.120 it had collapsed, he would have been killed one percent. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.560 So he's oh, it's like boe wobbling, and he like 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:28.280 stops it. Okay. So then he realized that all of 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.800 the barrels underneath him were empty, and they sho've been 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.280 full of sticky syrup. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.400 Okay, I was picturing this wrong. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.280 So they're big pyramid style. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.880 Of barrels, okay, And he's going up on the kind 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.160 of weird ladders growling up. He's scrabbling up the actual barrel. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.840 Yeah, he's on the barrels. He's on the barrels. They 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:47.440 start to walk. 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:48.800 Now it's making sense. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.720 A barrel of maple syrup weighs around six hundred pounds, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.000 and so you can see how he didn't have the 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.800 support that he thought he was going to have up there. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.280 If they're empty, fas miessing hundreds thousands of pounds. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.959 Yeah, So he starts opening the barrel and confirms that 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.280 they are devoid of syrup. But they weren't completely empty. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.320 They had water in them. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:07.160 Huh. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:09.840 So this wasn't like a shipping era where like a 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.560 batch of empties that you know, supposed to be for 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.679 syrup gets you know, switched around. This was obviously on purpose. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.199 About twelve point five percent of the total syrup reserve, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.760 five hundred and forty thousand gallons had been stolen. Whoa, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.760 that's thirteen point four million dollars worth of the forest's 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.679 sweet nectar. Yeah. So the cops like. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.319 An eighth of the whole world's supply. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:38.120 Yeah. So the cops, Quebec Police, the Mounties, US Customs, 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.720 they start their investigation. The security at the facility left 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.880 much to be desired. But then again, who would steal 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.520 such a thing in such a giant quantity? 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:47.920 Usually pretty heavy too. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.600 Exactly, and there's no CCTV at the warehouse, so there's 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.440 no video of the truck leaving with that Sylvan sap. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:59.720 The syrup was now colloquially hot. Yes, and this was 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.760 now known as the Great Maple Syrup. Hece, Oh, yes, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.400 we do get a lot of kay, so we're in it. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:07.160 Inspectors. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:11.439 They questioned hundreds of people, They ran multiple, multiple search warrants, 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.840 dozens of search warrants. The whole thing was kind of 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.960 tricky though, because the logistics didn't make sense. Vanity Fair 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.000 interviewed a local who said, quote, try to think up 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.960 the scenario and it's impossible. Syrup is heavy and sticky. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.280 How do you hide it? Who do you get to 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.960 smuggle it? Where can you sell it? It's like stealing 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.200 the salt out of the sea. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.760 Wow, yeah, poets the crime. 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.320 Eventually, though, investigators they were able to piece everything together. 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.680 There was a group of criminals who would take the 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.520 barrels from the warehouse and bring them to their sticky layer. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.760 Oh really, They'd siphon off the syrup into their own 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.080 barrels like sipening gas out of a car, fill the 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.319 original barrels with water, and then return the barrels to 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:53.920 the warehouse. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.160 Why are you the extra step? 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.400 I don't know. Well, that's the thing. So okay, So 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.040 there wasn't a lot of traffic in and out of 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.120 the warehouse, so they started getting lazy, and then they 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.400 started just siphoning the barrels right there, and so over 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.880 time they stole almost ten thousand barrels of syrup. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.319 It's a lot, that's a lot of times. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.760 And then they took them out of the FPA CU zone. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.200 This is inside, this is a huge well. Yeah, so 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.319 they take them out of the FPAQ zone and they 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.439 sold them to mostly unwitting buyers. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.319 Okay, so people don't know they're putting in new labeled stuff. Okay. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.480 And what's wild is that the cops were able to 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.800 recover most of the syrup they hadn't They just rang 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:35.079 out pancakes in the buckets they found. They found some 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.600 of it with a candy maker in Vermont. Oh, hundreds 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.239 of barrels were in Kenswick, New Brunswick. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:42.839 This is why he was getting all those calls from 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.839 the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. So I was like, I'm 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:45.760 not answering that call. 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.199 I have a lot of syrup in my house. Syplus 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:54.000 this new Brunswick area, super rural, really beautiful. I've always 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.200 wanted to go to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, and 0:12:56.280 --> 0:13:00.240 my Google street View experience just confirmed that, So I 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:05.880 love it. In all, seventeen men were arrested for the heist. 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.400 Wow, seventeen. Yeah. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.840 The ringleader was a man named Richard or Richard Vallier, 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.720 and he was sentenced in twenty seventeen to eight years 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.880 in prison and got a nine point four million dollar 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:22.520 Canadian Canadian dollar fine with an extension to fourteen years 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.920 if the fine wasn't paid. And then in twenty sixteen 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.439 the Quebec Court of Appeal ruled that it was excessive. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.160 This whole the fine, They're like nine point four million 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:34.120 Canadian dollars. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.679 That's ridiculous, nine of business. We're talking syrup. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:38.440 Yeah, so they're like knocked it down to a million. 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.000 Just still that's a lot of money. But then the 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.959 Supreme Court of Canada reversed that decision in twenty twenty 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.120 teen reinstated. 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.719 We said, people, leaf is on the flag exactly. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.680 You don't mess with that. So Richard's dad, Raymond, Raymond. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:53.880 What do you get if you go in to shoot 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.000 like a bald eagle in America, you're probably getting like 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.480 twenty five years in federal prison. Right whatever. If you 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.200 have it on your fly, you got to protect that. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:03.080 I'm with the judge. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.720 We don't have the baldygle in our floor. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.120 I know, we don't have it on our flag, but 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.800 it's our symbol. You can't shoot a star, exactly, shoot 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.920 a stripe. I shot a candy striper and. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.480 Call you should call a wait for that. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.000 They definitely so. 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:17.679 Richard's dad, Raymond. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.160 I shot the color blue. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.720 He gets convicted of possession, yes, with intent to sell. 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.160 He was sentenced to two years in jail minus one day, 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:32.560 I don't know, and three years of probation. Tien sant Pierre, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.320 Tienne Saint Pierre, the guy in New Brunswick with the 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.720 with all the syrup. He was a sur of reseller. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.280 He got two years in jail minus one day. I 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.480 don't get it, plus three years of probation and an 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.760 eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine. A vi caron 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.040 and he was the insider on it. His spouse owned 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.240 the warehouse that they were poking into. He got five 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.200 years in prison plus a one point two million dollar fine, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:02.960 and then Sebastian Joutra trucker who moved the stole, got 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.440 eight months. He's like, look, I just drove the truck. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.400 This theft of a really large quantity of food products 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:13.160 isn't limited to maple syrup. In the criminal justice system, 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:18.320 food based offenses are considered especially us in tou Larry County, California. 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.640 The dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies or members 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.320 of an elite squad known as the Agricultural Crimes Unit. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.280 These are their stories. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.200 Oh wait, before you get to TULARI, I wanted to 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.280 point out something about Canada. Yeah, that is what happens 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.480 if you allow the French and the English to make 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.640 a country. Okay, yeah, you get Canada. Just think about it. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.880 Pretty cool, they're better together. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.560 Pretty cool. Yeah it is anyway, Hoses. So there is 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:48.160 actually an Agricultural Crimes Unit in the Tillarry County Sheriff's Office. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.720 This is how they're described on their website. Quote to 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.000 Larry County leads the nation in dairy production. To Larry 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.120 County also ranks as one of the largest agricultural producing 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.720 counties in the entire nation. Agriculture is the largest private 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.320 employer in the county, with farm employment accounting for nearly 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.960 a quarter of all jobs. Due to this, Sheriff Boudrou 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.200 has made the Agricultural Crimes Unit one of his top priorities. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.120 The Agricultural Crimes Unit consists of six detectives, one sergeant 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.920 and one lieutenant. They are responsible for all crimes agricultural 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.320 and nature, including but not limited to, cattle theft, copper 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.920 wire thefts, tree nut thefts, tractor trailer thefts. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.080 And fuelfs. Be yeah, I bet thehas in Central California. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.600 The Agricultural Crimes Unit has specific liaisons for the areas 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.720 of row crops, citrus, cattle, dairy and tree nuts. We 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.880 send out monthly publication to update all farmers, ranchers and 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:43.040 dairymen of current crimes, investigations, arrests, and recoveries. If you 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.160 would like to receive this bulletin, please contact pam shot 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:51.080 at seven three five nine eight if sign up. If 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.600 you want to get updates, called pam So. August twenty twenty, 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.200 the unit they caught a hot case a real tough. 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:00.960 Nut to crack lay it on. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.320 Yeah, so, someone stole two tractor trailers filled with about 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.600 three hundred thousand dollars worth of pistachios. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.200 Oh, Pista. I wonder if it was gonna be almonds 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:08.640 of pistachia. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.640 Yeah, it's gotta be, you know, maybe walnuts far south 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.280 for the walnuts on that. So detectives were called out 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.600 to set In, Pistachio and Terrabella, California. Set In Pistachios, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:23.399 California exactly. It's the second largest pistachio processor in the US. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.159 They can process more than one hundred and ten million 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.960 pounds of pistachios and have more than ten thousand acres 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.040 of planted nuts flex on them. So Lex the wonderful 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.600 company that they produce Wonderful brand pistachos. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:35.960 That's the country's largest. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.680 They're the largest processor. But Settin right right close behind them, 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:44.359 So Seton was missing its nuts. Apparently someone used the 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.639 name of a real trucking company to get entrance and 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.280 pick up two large cargo trailers filled with pistachios. Then 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.200 they took off and headed to a secret abandoned warehouse 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.679 they're Lair. There they took the pistachios out of the 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.399 set and packaging and sold them loose to an unsuspecting buyer. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.639 One county over, Okay, so they just there's just some 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.560 big packaging always but there's just like a big pile 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.720 of net bag I'm sure somewhere. So the problem for 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.440 the crimers is that the trailers had GPS tracking in them. 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.480 Of course, I was gonna ask about this, that's the maybe. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.480 That's standard for transportation. 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.960 With your luggage. What do you think I'm doing with 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:22.600 that trailer full of exactly. 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:24.919 As an aside, there was a case of the missing 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.080 chickpeas that could have used a GPS tracker. A restaurant 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.639 in Washington, DC called Little Sesame lost a shipment of 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.919 chickpeas coming in from Montana. Ups said it made it 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.440 to DC, but not the restaurant. That's where the case 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:40.040 went cold cold like hummus zaren that's what chickpeas were for. 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.720 So the local papers were calling that garbonzogate. Oh really, Yeah, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:49.800 they've stole six and fifty pounds of garbonzobeans chickpeas. That's 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.640 like more than twenty six bo Jackson's. 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.920 Yeah, that's a lot about Jackson. You were putting in 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:55.320 on some relative. 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.320 That of course, Well, they weren't ever recovered anyway. Back 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:01.359 to the pistachios. The nut recovery the nut grab became 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:07.280 a multi jurisdictional effort. California Highway Patrol, Fresno County Sheriff's Office, 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.920 Fresno Police Department, Madera County Sheriff's Office. They all joined 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.119 up with the two Larry County egg investigators and took 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:13.800 the purpse down. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:14.840 Bring that hammer down. 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.760 Bovna Singh second, a twenty three year old Fresno man 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.440 arrested at home for conspiracy, grand theft, identity theft, looting. 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.200 At the last report immediately following his arrest, they said 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:27.919 that more people were going to get arrested. 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.240 Oh yeah, more to come. Yeah, watch this space. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:31.800 And all the nuts recovered. 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.120 Oh nice, they got their handle they cradled. 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.800 I couldn't find out what happened to this case. Whatever 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.600 happened to the guy? Know news stories about it, but whatever. 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.640 So they got the nuts back. When we come back, Yes, 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.159 I'll tell you about more foodie crimes and they aren't mashups. 0:19:46.880 --> 0:20:11.760 Thank god. Hello, Hello, some nuts? Yeah, I got some 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.240 just for this. This is going well. 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:18.000 So like occasion Delicious, Yes please New Bedford, Massachusetts. 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.720 I've been there, have you okay, whaling. 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.200 Well, did you know more than three hundred and fifty 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.639 million dollars worth of seafood is brought to the docks there, Yes, 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:27.320 every year. 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:28.359 Big, yes, exactly. 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.080 Fishing whaleless it still is. It's a huge fishing town. 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.520 Off the coast of New Bedford, almost between Massachusetts and 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.720 Nova Scotia. There's this like underwater shelf where the Gulf 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.400 Stream meets the Labrador current. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.000 Oh yes, okay, I'm familiar. 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.240 Turns up all the good stuff, all the juices, the nutrients, 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.080 and the little guys, all the jubblis from the ocean, 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:55.440 total ocean jubbleees. It makes it like this really booming 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:56.440 area for fishing. 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.480 Oxygen rich, nutrient rich. 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.960 Delicious jubble, temperature, adience, everything, all the stuff. So from 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.800 February to April each year, just in that little window, 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.960 all these large schools of cod come up from the 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.720 Atlantic Ocean and they hang out in like the shallow waters. 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:13.639 They're just like. 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:20.680 Child's meeting ingreetons. What's the hey, They hunt for food 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:26.640 eels and they were gone, yes, yes, and then they spawned. 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.480 So at the center of this bustling industry is Carlos 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.600 Raphael Carlos. He immigrated to New Bedford from the Azores 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:38.359 as a teenager in nineteen Sixty's. 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:38.200 Part of that Cape ver. 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:42.200 Yes, yes there's and that's a huge population in New Bedford. 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.480 He got a job in a fish processing plant and 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.760 then he eventually became a foreman at a seafood distribution facility. Now, 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.280 in nineteen eighty one he bought his first boat. He 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:58.280 started his own company, Carlos Seafood, like Carlos Danger, Carlos Seafood. 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:02.880 Over time his business grew to forty boats. So he's 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.879 a juggernaut, forty boats. He's got like this whole crew. 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.080 Twenty thirteen, he took in more than twenty five percent 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.320 of New England's groundfish revenue. 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:12.760 What. 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:18.080 Yeah, he's just like he's the man. A reporter from 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.520 WECE went to interview him at his warehouse in twenty thirteen, 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:26.199 and Carlos had pictures of Tony Montana al Patino's coking 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:28.640 character from Scarface on the walls of. 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:29.879 My little Friend. 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:33.119 Yeah, he's all on the walls of his office. He 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:36.480 tells the reporter that his small family competitors were quote, 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.000 mosquitos on the balls of an elephant. 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:40.240 Okay, I'm starting to figure it out. 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:46.520 Local newspapers called him Elizabeth. They called him the waterfront wizard. Yeah, 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.879 and oracle of the ocean. Yeah, he had a dark side, 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:53.920 no really what how In the nineteen eighties he got 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:58.040 six months in prison for tax evasion, right fine. Ninety 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.959 four he gets indicted but acquitted for price fixing. 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.359 Not this Johnny friendly of water front. 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:07.520 He's a little fishies. Twenty eleven, he got busted for 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:11.560 illegally catching an eight hundred and eighty one pound tuna. 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:12.680 Is all fountain nemo. 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.840 Yeah, he got caught for an illegal fish. 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.840 Illegal eight hundred and eighty one pound. That's a fig in. 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:18.920 That's a big boy. Yeah. 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.880 Over twenty years, he racked up more than five hundred 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.720 thousand dollars in fines for more than thirty federal fishing violations. 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:27.440 Just always catching fish. 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:28.720 He's the bad boy of the seas. 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:30.119 Can't stop him. 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:34.720 So these were some of his cancers violations overfishing, Failing 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:38.040 to throw back undersized fish and lobsters bearing eggs, which 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.240 is a big no no. Oh, having boats with secret coolers 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:46.200 in them, blocking Coastguard inspectors from boarding, failing to declare 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:49.280 fishing trips and then filing false reports on his catch. 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:50.679 Using dynamite to catch fish. 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.560 Do you know what he once told regulators quote, I'm 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.320 a pirate, it's your job to catch me. 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.000 I think that's accurate. I think that is he knows himself. 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.720 He has all these ships right and over time, like 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:04.480 he's rotating through them. Sure, if one got old, he 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.159 just left it to rot at the docks and then 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.840 people would say you got to move your boat, and 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:11.399 you like start threatening them. One he just let it 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:13.000 sink and was like the government's got to clean it 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.480 up now, Like he just didn't care, So. 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.840 Then I shouldn't laugh. That's the worst behavior. It's totally wow. 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.320 One time the coast guard boarded one of his boats 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:27.720 and the troll winch where the you know that releases 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.760 the net was like spinning out and the fishing net 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:33.199 was just like heading down into the ocean where no 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.359 one could see it. So the coast guard knew this 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.400 was not an accident. That like, yeah, So they pull 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.840 up the net they saw that it had an illegal 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.600 liner in it that would keep undersized fish from slipping 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:50.760 through the regulation manch. So he's just like yeah, basically 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:55.040 twenty fifteen. He's worth tens of millions of dollars. 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:56.320 Is an extension, but go on. 0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:59.040 Yes, he was done though he wanted out. At the 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.119 beginning of the year, he put in word that he 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.960 was selling his boats and his dealership. He wanted to 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:08.680 retire to kate Verde, Portuguese, former Portuguese colony off the 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.600 coast of Africa. Then three dudes showed up. They wanted 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:16.439 to make a deal. Sarin shows you. Oh yes, I 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:20.520 want you to picture it. It's June third, twenty fifteen. 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.879 You are a man with a sick Russian accent. Oh yes, 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:29.280 you and another Russian are with your financial broker walking 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.040 into a warehouse at three fifty South Front Street in 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:33.440 New Bedford, Massachusetts. 0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:34.439 My name is Zovich. 0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:37.800 I had to give you time to get that out there, 0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:44.000 so seagulls swoop overhead. Big big trucks rumble by. Headed 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.240 to the marine commerce terminal, kind of out by Buzzard's Bank. 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:53.399 Yeah it. The door to the warehouse creeks open, and 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.560 you head to a small office off to the side. 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.919 You expect a place to smell like fish. It just cold. 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:05.919 Is this cold? Your feet strike the cement floors and 0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.000 you tuck your bald fist tightly into your member's only jacket. 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.240 An older gentleman, his gray hair balding, motions for you 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.480 to sit down. He's got a wincedon cigarette hanging between 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:17.080 his fingers. 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.639 You need to light tiny. 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.959 A tiny radio perched on top of a filing cabinet 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:26.119 plays soft rock. He introduces himself as Carlos Raphael of 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:27.240 Carlos Seafood. 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:28.280 I'm Zenovich. 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:32.480 The broker has told Carlos everything that he needs to 0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.840 know about you and the other Russian. Carlos seems impressed. 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.280 The broker told him in subtle terms, at you and 0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.639 your power Russian gangsters. You're looking to park money and 0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:45.160 maybe make them while you're at it, because exactly so. 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.199 Carlos tells you that the irs thinks his business is 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.199 worth about twenty million dollars and loses about half a 0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:54.680 million annually, but it's actually worth one hundred and seventy 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.800 five million, and he rakes in way more than a 0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.560 few million a year. You nod to show how impressed 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:04.040 you are. Carlos reaches into his desk and pulls out 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.919 a Ledger book on the front in big black felt 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:11.840 tip permanent marker inc Is scrawled cash. We are profitable, 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.359 he tells you. You will not see it on paper. 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.960 For Carlos seafood profit the good. He tells you that 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:22.320 this big wod is from off the book's cod. It's wadcod. 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.879 He sells literal tons of fish to an under the 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.080 table fish dealer in New York, and he tells you 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.119 he always gets paid in cash. I call this the dance, 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.359 he says. You look at your broker. He nods slightly, 0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.560 and you know it's on. Carlos is super stoked. He 0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.520 pulls a bottle of rum from the large desk drawer 0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.680 and begins to pour celebratory shots for everyone he has found. 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:49.240 Fellow criminal underworld Kindred Spirits. He laughs and says, as 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.280 will later appear in court transcripts, you could be the 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.240 Irs in here. This could be a cluster, so I'm 0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:58.239 trusting you. The only thing is I open myself up 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.560 because both of you is Russian, and I don't think 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.159 they would have two Russians me. That would be some 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:08.960 bad luck. Here's the thing, you're broker, Ronald Mullet, like 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:12.160 the fish, but with an extra tea. Mister Mullet, undercover 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.960 Irs agent, And what was Carlos talking about with the 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.320 off the books fish the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.399 they have a requirement for fishing boats. They need to 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.760 log and report the species and the weight of their 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.600 catch every single time they go out. On the other end, 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.240 seafood dealers submit their own reports that tell what they're 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.480 purchasing from the fishermen, and then Noah Cross references the 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.760 data to confirm and make sure everything matches that match exactly. 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.640 So Carlos found a crack to slip through. He owned 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:49.120 both boats and a dealership, and he told his captains 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.280 to fudge their reports. Then he verified their catch and 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.200 fudged his reports to back it up. There were other 0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.600 restrictions in place that Carlos hopped around. Fishermen are allowed 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.320 to catch bigger quantities of common species of fish than 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.240 rare ones. Okay, so let's say you're allowed to pull 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.880 in lots of haddock, which is a common fish, but 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.800 then you get a net full of dabs like sandebs. 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.640 By the rules, you have to either stop fishing or 0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:16.640 rent more dabs quota from other fishermen. Oh, this is 0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:18.720 all in an effort to not overfish the waters and 0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.600 also like create like an equitable sales environment. 0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.440 So this is not working at all, No. 0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.880 Not under Carlos. Carlos gets around this by mislabeling a 0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.720 lot of stuff as haddock. Like everything becomes happy. 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.080 So that's why when you get stuff in the fish 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.280 and they go and they have like the scientists check 0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.200 the fish and they go, yeah, this is all haddock 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:36.440 and it's all listed. Is different. 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.680 It's him, that's him, that's him. So like he as 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.120 he gestures to like the cooked books, he said to Mullet, quote, 0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.400 this is we paint it all week see seven hundred. 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:50.760 We call these haddock like okay. And he even had 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.560 a crooked cop who helped him smuggle the cash back 0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:57.560 home to Portugal through Boston Logan International Airport. Oh, so 0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:02.320 he's got all these connections, Rs Man Mullet. He collected intel, 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.320 he collected evidence. You're also an undercover, by the way, 0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:06.280 if you hadn't figured that. 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.400 Hey, baby business at a front party in the back. 0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.760 So Mullet met with that New York dealer whose name 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.040 was Michael Peretti. He was a dealer at Fulton Fish 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.560 Market and he was once busted for selling fish illegally 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:20.920 caught in polluted waters. 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.800 Is Fulton Fish Market a big market from fish markets, Yeah, 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:27.840 I know, like Pike Street marketplace and then. 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.680 Fulton Fish The big dogs, the big dogs of the 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:34.800 fish world, the big the big catfish. On February twenty six, 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:39.040 twenty sixteen, I'm letting cat federal agents. I just imagine 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.600 with like big like whiskers. 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:42.160 Oh like Snoopy's brother. 0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.480 Yes, who lives in that's my reference in needles. He 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:51.360 lives in Needles. So federal agents raided the Carlos Seafood 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:55.960 warehouse arrested Carlos that may. He was indicted on twenty 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:56.880 seven counts of fraud. 0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.200 That's it, like eighty five. 0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.920 Well, and all of his crimes involved around eight hundred 0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:04.240 thousand pounds of fish. 0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:05.040 Oh my god. 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.560 So the press when this all happens, they start calling 0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.080 Carlos the cod Father. 0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.440 Oh of course, God, there you go. 0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.440 So what's wild is that his crimes threw off the 0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:18.720 fishery stock forecasts of various fish species. And that meant 0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:22.160 that Noah had to recalibrate everything and reset the quotas. 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:23.600 That is the baseline. 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.560 That is how massive his fraud was. The cod Father 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.120 he didn't let something like federal charges slow him down. 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:30.320 There. 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:34.160 Oh, Carlos August twenty sixteen, The Codfather out on two 0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.280 million dollars spond. He's wearing an ankle monitor. 0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:37.720 Yes. 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.760 Look, one of his boats got busted by the Coastguard 0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:45.400 for illegal fishing. And he had his wife buying boats 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.120 in her name to grow the business. And he was 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.680 still a fixture at the docks and the fish aux course. 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.200 Like he's just showing up in like barking orders at people. 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:58.000 In the end, the federal government prevailed. So twenty seventeen, 0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:02.120 Carlos the Codfather, he pled guilty and agreed to give 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.480 up thirteen of his vessels and leave the fishing industry 0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:05.840 for good. 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:07.560 But he's not in behind bars. 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.680 He got forty six months in prison, okay. And so 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.680 while he was in jail, he bought Hawthorne Country Club 0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:15.120 in Dartmouth, Massachusetts. 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.880 He bought a country club jail for years in jail. 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.000 Yeah, And he also did like real estate developments. He 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.960 and his family were going to buy this like senior 0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:24.560 retirement apartment complex. 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.560 Oh, I totally trust them to care seniors. 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.959 And in twenty in twenty twenty, they transferred him from 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:32.680 the prison to a half way house, and he got 0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.120 out in March twenty twenty one. 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:35.880 Okay, what's he been doing since? Well? 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.120 His attorney, John Marky said that Carlos and his children 0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.959 are quote investing in the future of New Bedford and 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.800 in projects to improve their community. 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:44.800 I don't believe them. 0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:49.120 No, that's all we have on them, codfather. Everybody, let's 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:56.440 take a break that they cut it him like a fish. 0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:59.000 I'm going to share more crimes, but these are going 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:23.920 to involve when he your favorite foods cheese, glorious cheese. 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:29.480 You talking about language cheese I. 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.920 Used to steal. I'm sorry, I shouldn't just come off 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.120 so quick with that, but I was in college and 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.480 I was very struggling, and my friend and I we 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.520 wore big clothing, so we would go and steal one 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.120 pound blocks of cheese from like the local Safeway in 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.560 San Francisco, the one on church there in Market, and 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.160 then we go back to his place and we'd sit 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.440 down on the couch and each of us would get 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.840 out like a steak knife and we would cut off 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.120 slices of cheese and eat the entire one pound block. 0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.680 You guys all stove up, no smooth running after that? Wow? 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.080 Oh yeah five or diet maybe? 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:02.360 Oh wow. 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.240 I love cheese like none. 0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:08.080 Cheese is amazing. I'm a huge cheese fan. Did you 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.520 know it has an almost drug like effect on the brain. 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:11.880 I just told you that story. 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:17.360 Well that sound it contains casin. Yeah, it gets protein 0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.160 the opioid receptors. So yeah, cheese. 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.000 Proteins, baby good stuffs like drugs. 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:27.319 The French are sometimes referred to as cheese eating surrender monkeys. 0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.759 But Americans are cheese eaters too. 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:33.239 You never heard that. 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.000 I've heard that, but people are really called No. 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.439 No, they don't. I just did, but I don't mean it. 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.640 I was just looking, really, I was just looking for 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:45.239 a good you know, segu So Americans are cheese eaters too. 0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:48.640 Did you know that Americans ate more than five billion 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.479 pounds of cheese and twenty twenty one. That sounds low, 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.600 that's like and you did like twelve percent of that. 0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:54.919 I'm doing my part. 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.320 About a billion pounds were consumed in the American Midwest. 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.520 That makes sense, Okay, yeah, I'm thinking like all the 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.759 fast food cheese. It's a big grown out there, I mean, 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.680 but that's they throw cheese on everything. 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.440 Macaroni and cheese like potato. 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.319 Like, there's all the regular foods. I was trying to think, 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.080 where are the numbers, really, cheese soup exactly, all the 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.000 French cheddar soup and the French. 0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.560 Blue cheese, the cheese soup. 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:21.840 Yeah, there's French onion soup has cheese in it. 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:23.920 Yeah, and then yeah whatever anyway, so we're not going 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:29.520 to get all sidetracked on cheese soup. Dame Wisconsin. They 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.400 produce the most cheese in the US each year. 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.080 In California's mad about that they are. 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:34.359 We're coming up behind them. 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:35.759 Dude, it's a battle. You ever seen that? 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:36.000 Well? 0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.640 Oh yeah, I was looking at the numbers literally way 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.920 ahead of us. But you know, we have superior cheese. 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.160 I think gauntlet like that. 0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:50.240 Wisconsin is officially the Badger state, but unofficially the dairy state. 0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:52.280 In the cheese state. 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.279 Yeah, yeah, I got a heart for the cheeseheads. 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.080 And just like the maple syrup of our neighbors to 0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.160 the north, Wisconsin cheese is worth a. 0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.880 Lot totally, and that the cheese. 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.080 Brings about criminals like flies to syrup. 0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.920 It's like the syrup is the flag, the Canadian flag 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:11.279 with they have the maple leaf. In Wisconsin they have 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.200 the cheesehead. It's very similar. 0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:14.160 That's the flag. 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:16.520 If they could redo the state flag, it would be. 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.640 A cheese made out of cheese. The state flag. You 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.879 can usual their state constitution is enough. 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.320 Cheese has to be printed on cheese and the constitution itself, 0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.680 oh itself. I did not know that. Fun, Yeah, it's fun. 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:33.400 Fun fact twenty thirteen Venamine Balika. He stole forty two 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.480 thousand pounds of munster cheese from the pasture Pried Cheese 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:40.520 company in Wisconsin. Now he rolled up to the company 0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.120 like he was picking up a shipment, complete with forged 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.239 document's kind of like pistachio. 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.960 Boy got a manifest whole bit totally. 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:49.600 And then he took off with one and thirty five 0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.680 cases of cheese that had a street value of two 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.360 hundred thousand dollars. Put it into little. 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.319 Baggies, then two for five. 0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.520 The cops caught up with him a thousand miles away 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.759 at a stop on the New Jersey Turnpike. 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:03.759 Cheese. 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.120 What was he doing there? He was trying to sell 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:07.280 the load and the rest. 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.280 Get this cheese restop in New Jersey. 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:16.680 The whole truck according to New Jersey State Police Sergeant 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.279 Adam Grossman. He told ABC News he was charged with 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:24.319 receiving stolen property and fencing fencing cheese and a New 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:25.360 Jersey rest stop. 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:26.200 Hey, that's what we do. 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.520 If you pull into a rest stop and a guy's 0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:33.680 like buy some cheese, like parked on the other side 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:35.480 of he was the guy with steaks in his trunk. 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.399 Then the van with the stereo parts, and then there's 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:38.000 a truck. 0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.719 How did I get here? So the cheese in the 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.200 truck were sent to an impound lot, and. 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.080 After they didn't take the cheese out. 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.600 No, no, After the cheese passed New Jersey health inspections, 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.839 though it was donated to charity because no one wants 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:52.680 to buy used cheese. 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:54.759 Wait a minute, what do you mean what? I'm right here, 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:55.560 I'm right here. 0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:00.640 Wisconsin got hit again, though, just like a month later, claim. 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.360 Takes care of the cheese lost right for the company, 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:03.840 and then they're like, hey, who do you give this to? 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:04.880 What pores want to eat this? 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.520 You have the cheese, you pours and the pores are 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:14.360 like delicious. Twenty sixteen again Wisconsin, so or actually no, 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.879 that was what twenty thirteen twenty sixteen, we jumped forward 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.319 in time. Okay, to flash forward, all the stars go 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:23.239 by us. First, ninety pounds of parmesan cheese. 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.040 Sorry, taking a shot at the stars go on. 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.640 The parmesan cheese. We're stolen from a warehouse in Marshfield, 0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:34.919 Wisconsinsin someone commandeered a semi truck full of forty pound 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:36.960 blocks of cheese that was supposed to go to Illinois. 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.600 Police were on the case. No one lifts Wisconsin cheese 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.040 and gets away with it. So two weeks after the theft, 0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.640 the cheese is recovered. Someone called in a tip that 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.840 the forty one pounds of parmesan was held in a 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:54.560 warehouse in Grand Shoot, Wisconsin. All right, how great is 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.400 that to be the like rat on that with the cheese, 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.439 the rat under the cheese. But I mean really like, hey, 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:02.040 I know where. 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.040 The cheese for you and some cold cheese. 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.960 The cops race to the warehouse. They find the cheese there, 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:08.040 unmolested with parmesan. 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.040 It could be dry, right, just sitting out. 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.399 Yeah, it's just sitting there. So there was never any 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.920 statement made about the culprits or catching them or anything. 0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:17.279 I noticed that just pure relief that the cheese was 0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:18.400 apparently this is. 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.320 The thing to steal. They just go, we got the cheese. 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.040 We don't care. We're not looking past the cheese. 0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:24.279 You do, just make sure you get the cheese. Just 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.880 a month later after that parmesan heist, Beeves struck again. 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.279 There's a debate as to whether it's the same crew 0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:32.919 or a whole new group occurred. 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:36.200 Someone yelling down the street, that's not your cheese. 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:41.960 You did it. So this time, seventy thousand pounds of 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.880 cheese were stolen from a cheese store in Germantown, Wisconsin. 0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.520 It's referred to as quote cheese product in most of 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.480 the news articles, but I found one that called it parmesan. 0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.120 So I don't think it was like Velveta or craft shingles, 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.840 but like it was, we'll say. We'll say that this 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:01.160 tangy treasure was parmesan. It was taken from a parking 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:06.280 lot at two just after midnight, okay, and so early morning. 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.520 It wasn't just sitting in the lot loose cheese just 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:13.360 laying there. It was an attractor trailer. So the trailer 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.359 was found empty and abandoned later that morning. All right, 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:18.960 but what about the cheese? They found that later that 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:23.960 night in Milwaukee Milwaukee cheese. How did they know where 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.160 to look? The thieves were trying to sell the hot 0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:27.840 cheese for just a dollar a pound. 0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:29.400 Oh, so they didn't do like one of those We 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.040 put a map down in der a circle and they 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.160 don't have to be inside this circle. Probably like they 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:36.080 just got lucky. We're like, we saw someone selling hot 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:36.800 cheese on the corner. 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.160 They were selling it on the cheap, like flea market steaks. 0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.399 Don't trust. It had to be thrown away, so they 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:43.600 sent it to the landfill. 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.400 You got like white teas and cheese, which. 0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:50.960 What socks, laundry detergent. So the seal on the trailer 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.360 had been broken, so they couldn't They couldn't sell it. 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:54.680 Because it won't pass code. 0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.640 Yeah, and since like I guess, New Jersey was like, 0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.759 it's fine, give it to give it to charity, They're like, no, 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.319 we don't know what has happened to this cheese while 0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:02.680 it was on. 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:04.680 The difference between the Midwest and the land. 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.080 Yeah, they're like road cheese could be so bad. So 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.520 they put it in the landfill. Like I said, you 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:14.000 can't sell used cheese. So these were Wisconsin takes on 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.000 Parmesan cheese. Let's look at the real deal. This is 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:21.239 not the powdered form. This is the heavenly form. Parmisano reggiano. 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.680 You like, it's not what It's an Italian hard cheese. 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:25.720 It's made from thousands. 0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:27.319 I like that. Yes, it's hard. 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.040 It's hard. It's age. You're thinking of fresh mozzarella. 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:31.799 Oh right, that's the stuff I do. 0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:38.239 This stuff, Parmigiano reggiano is aged at least twelve months. Yeah, 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:41.040 some people call it the King of cheese. 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.480 It's the one that's yes, I know the recipe. 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:44.200 Goes back to the Middle Ages. 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:45.719 Is this also the one in New York where they'll 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.399 take the round and melt it and like they put 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:48.360 the stuff. 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.319 For the Instagram. So the cheese is named after two 0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:57.160 of the areas that produce it, Parma yes and Reggio Emilia. 0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:01.640 Oh and so true. Parmesan is also produced in the 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:05.600 part of Bologna west of the River Reno and Medina 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.880 and part of Mantua on the south bank of the 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:13.799 River Po. So it's very particular and both Parmigiano reggiano 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:18.640 and parmesan are protected designations of origin. Pdo like champagne. Yeah, 0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.840 for cheeses that are produced in the provinces under Italian 0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.879 both Italian and European law. So outside of the. 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.680 EU we have like ter laws for cheese. Is that 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:28.319 something kind of. 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.720 Yeah, because it has to do with like the cows 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.359 and the Yeah. So when you're not in the EU, 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:35.640 like when you're in Wisconsin. 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:36.960 Yes, sure, the name. 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:40.760 Parmesan can legal it can legally be used for similar cheeses, 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.040 but they can't say Parmegiano reggiano. 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:43.840 Okay. 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:49.239 Yeah, all producers of Parmegiano reggiano cheese, they belong to 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:53.960 the Consortia del Fromaggio Parmigiano Reggiano Cheese OPEC. Yeah, the 0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.160 cheese consortium founded in nineteen twenty eighth. 0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:57.640 Wow. 0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:01.880 As of twenty seventeen, about three three point six million wheels. 0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.839 That's one hundred and nineteen twenty eight in Italy. Yeah, 0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:06.400 so they're like fascist cheese. 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:07.439 Totally fascist cheese. 0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:09.200 Okay, I just wander, okay completely. 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.319 So one hundred and thirty seven thousand metric tons of 0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:17.120 parmesan are produced every year. Wow, and that uses eighteen 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.799 percent of all the milk produced in Italy. What to 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:23.479 make this delicious parmesan. Thank you cows, thank you so much. 0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.880 The cheese is made from grass fed cow's milk only, 0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.600 and then they put it in this stainless steel round form. 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:33.200 The form is tightened to make the giant wheel shape 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.520 of the finished product. There's like a plastic belt inside 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.640 the buckle and it imprints the cheese. 0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:39.000 With that. 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:40.800 They get the print, the name. 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.280 And the plant number, the month and year of production. 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:44.160 Big circle seal. 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:45.920 Yeah, it call it yeah and it looks. 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.239 Like brail like this cool. 0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:52.799 Each cheese is put out on wooden shelves. Twenty four 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:54.919 cheeses high, ninety cheeses long. 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:55.760 I love those videos. 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.359 Over two thousand cheeses per ale. Oh yeah, the smell 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:00.200 must be amazing. 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:08.240 So after thet thing to say. 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:13.120 After twelve months, the Consortcio inspects every wheel of cheese. 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.279 Wheels that pass the test get heat branded on the 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:20.320 rind with the Consortio's special logo. Cheese that doesn't pass 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:23.160 the test, they either mark the rines with lines and 0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:24.839 crosses all the way around. 0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.920 They sell to America, or. 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.359 They just strip all the markings off altogether and like 0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.279 you're not getting top quality product. I've seen footage of 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.759 earthquake damage to the curing room. It's heartbreaking. They're just 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:40.960 broken wheels of cheese everywhere, broken cheese, broken dreams. So 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:47.799 heart I thank you American manufactured, speak of the cheese. Americans. 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.440 They aren't always on the up and up with their parmesan. 0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:56.160 So here's the Food and Drug Administration. They looked into 0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:00.480 a Pennsylvania company's powdery cheese determined that quote no Armisan 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.040 cheese was used to manufacture it. 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:03.480 There is zero, So. 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.600 Why you can't trust that powdered stuff. It's disgusting. You 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:07.960 have to get a hunk of your own and use 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.680 a microplane or for salads and such vegetable peeler anyway, 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:15.640 all right, there are an estimated three hundred thousand wheels 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:19.640 of parmesano reggiano worth around two hundred million dollars kept 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.360 in Italian bank vaults. 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:23.919 Wow, don't they have like in caves too? 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.960 They haven't been caves, but the ones in the vaults. 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.880 There's an Italian bank Kredem, and there are other ones. 0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:33.399 They take wheels of parmesan as collateral against loans made 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:34.920 to the farmers who need fronting. 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:36.840 All the cheese is mature makes sense when you have 0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.640 those long maturing products. Exactly, what if you have a 0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:41.480 wheeled cheese, can you use that as a credit line, Like, 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:42.920 just take it off my cheese, your. 0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.680 Taste a little off. Parmesan wheels only increase in value 0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:51.319 as they age, and that makes them really appealing to criminals. 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.479 In the early twenty teens, a gang stole over two 0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.319 thousand wheels of parmesan over the course of a couple 0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.560 of years, slowly with the sloan. There were eleven gang 0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.920 members and they were fully kitted out for their heists. 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:07.000 They were armed, but they had all this like technology 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.800 for bypassing the security in the warehouses where the cheese 0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:10.160 is stopped. 0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.279 Oh, I was imagining them dressed like Chester Cheetah, he 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.520 said they were out. I'm like, let's say they were 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:15.359 total Chester. 0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:17.720 I wasn't there. Let's say they were. 0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:21.200 Headphones, sunglasses, leatherjacket. Sure Chester Cheetah. 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:24.520 And Maario brothers. In twenty fifteen, they were arrested though 0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:28.319 and charged with the theft of seven hundred and eighty 0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.880 five thousand euros, which was about eight hundred and seventy 0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.719 five thousand dollars at the time, which would be one 0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:36.120 point one million dollars to day worth of parmesan cheese. 0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.279 This wasn't the only cheese thieving gang. Organized crime had 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:45.239 crews hitting the cheesemakers on the regular. So cheesemaker Lorenzo Pinetti, 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.840 he said, thieves made off with one hundred thousand dollars 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:49.680 of his cheese in just a matter of minutes. 0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:52.719 He said, can I just do an extortion, let me 0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:53.560 keep the cheese. I'll pay. 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:55.719 What they did is the thieves came in and they 0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.560 formed an assembly line and slid the wheels of parmesan 0:46:58.680 --> 0:46:59.280 out a window. 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.640 What they made this? Yeah, thank you, Henry Ford. 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:08.319 Alessandro Vaccari is an Italian police officer thirty years on 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.279 the force of that trend. He said, quote, there have 0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.040 been so many thefts. Cheese is a bit like gold here. 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.719 The price is so high. So it's not only warehouses 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:20.600 that get robbed though, Like since parmesan has to be 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.879 aged for at least a year before it can be 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:25.799 called parmesan, and some others are aged two to three years, 0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:27.879 that means a lot of wheels are stored all over 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.759 northern Italy at any given time, so it's not just 0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:33.880 in big warehouses. There's tons of like small artisanal businesses. 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:35.480 All you sit down on a bench and there's a 0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:36.200 wheel of cheese. 0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:41.600 Ought, I thought it was by myself. According to the Consortio, 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.760 over three million dollars in parmesan is stolen in Italy 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.520 every year. Whoa, oh crazy. 0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.319 Three million every year. Let us know it's going to 0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:50.280 be part of their pilferage. 0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:54.200 Yeah, it's like the angel share. One wheel can be 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:58.120 bought for several hundred dollars and some for several thousands, 0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:01.280 depending and even though what are those markers on the cheese, 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:03.600 You can't really see him once it's been cut into wedges. 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.640 So black market cheese, man, that's where it's got so 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:07.240 from Italy. 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.120 You got to break it down. Once you get the reup, 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:09.759 you break it down. 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:13.000 Okay, let's head to France. Queen of the cheeses? 0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:13.920 Are they now? 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.280 I say so? So this also took place in twenty fifteen. 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:20.960 The owner of cheese of a dairy in eastern France 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.359 was proud of his comte cheese. You ever had that? 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:27.520 Oh my god? So good to be called comte. It 0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:30.200 can only be produced in that region. 0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.239 Okay, there's a lot of Yeah, you're finding this, okay, 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:34.760 champagne everywhere, right. 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:36.400 It's just sort of how like you can't call it 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.440 a mission burrito outside of the Mission district in San Francisco. 0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.160 Yeah, that's like how I call it champagne. The miller 0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.520 of wines exactly so. 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:48.520 The Montabayard and Scimital bread breeds of cow. They're the 0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:50.960 only type that produced the milk that's used to make 0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:53.920 the cheese. So very specific and it takes up to 0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.320 thirty six months to mature the cheese. And a cellar, 0:48:56.880 --> 0:49:01.880 they're like, get mature here, stop being so childish. Whip them. 0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.879 The owner of the dairy went to milk his cows 0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:08.160 one morning and saw something terrible. The storage area where 0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:11.520 he kept his comte was open and empty. 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:12.960 Ooh yeah, girl. 0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:16.680 The thieves had taken approximately one hundred wheels of the cheese. 0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.800 They cut through barbed wire to get into the property. 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.480 Then they used a crowbar to force open the back 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.560 door of the barn, and the cows were like, I 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:29.839 don't know that. We heard nothing, said Andre, who lives 0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:32.520 next door. He told this to the local press. The 0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.080 people who did this, they must know the area, because 0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:38.640 I mean again, I went to street view. It's really rural. 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:39.000 Rural. 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:40.960 Obviously it's gorgeous and I want to go there, but 0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:41.799 it's it's real. 0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:43.440 Do you think if you put up like sound dampening 0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:45.799 cloth around you, you could be able to use a 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:47.680 metal grind or cut through and nobody would hear anything. 0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:49.239 I don't. I think. I don't know how big the 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.399 property was, but probably if you do something like that, 0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:53.279 although I don't know. If it's really really quiet and night, 0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.239 you can hear that stuff pretty far away. But I think 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:59.080 that's why they used like clippers for the barbed wire, 0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:02.600 and then the crowbarts not too loud. One hundred wheels 0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:06.120 of cheese stolen were worth about fifty thousand dollars, okay, 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.160 and as far as I can tell, the cheese was 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:09.400 never recovered. 0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:11.080 Every time I know, and when it is, they just 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:11.600 give it away. 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.480 Well, they assumed that it was cut into smaller pieces 0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:16.080 and maybe sold to restaurants or just. 0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:16.960 From the black market. 0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:19.960 Yeah, so if you're eating that around there, you're probably 0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:23.520 stolen cheese. And since all this is starting to sound 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.680 a lot like art heists, let's go to the Netherlands. Ooh, 0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:30.600 in the town of Fignart On March twenty ninth, twenty 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:36.520 twenty two, Gerda van Dorp and her husband juiced juiced, juiced, Yes, 0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:40.640 the juice is loosed. They're Dutch cheese farmers. They woke 0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:42.960 up and they headed out to work on their farm. 0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.000 They made their way down to the cheese storage room, 0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.680 just like you know homeboy over in France. They wanted 0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:49.120 to admire their hard work. 0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:50.840 Of course, just like taking a good gander at the 0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:52.240 cheese totally. 0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:53.960 Just like the dude in France cupboard was bear. 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.240 Oh no, juiced, why we are missing our cheeses. 0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.640 So sometime in the night thieves snatched one hundred and 0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:03.120 sixty one wheels of cheese. That's thirty five hundred pounds 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:07.680 of it. Valued it twenty three one thousand dollars. It's 0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.280 not as pricey as French or then really Italian. 0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.600 You know, they make a good like peasant cheese, Gerda. 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.240 She said, quote it was like waking up in a movie. Really, Gerda, 0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:20.400 what movies do you watch? So the thieves they also 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:24.280 stole a trailer and two wheelbarrows which were discovered nearby, 0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:27.759 so they use them as tools. Yeah, Gerda figured the 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:31.200 cheese burglars had been monitoring her farm for a while, 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.239 and the robbery happened the one night that the gate 0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:36.360 to the property was left open because there was going 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:37.800 to be an overnight milk delivery. 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:40.000 Oh I wonder if neighbors Yeah. 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:41.120 Or juiced her husband? 0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:45.560 Oh yeah, sold, there's any pigs. No, there's no hamburglar. 0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:48.920 Don't try to keep over here. 0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:52.440 I'm so proud of you. Don't throw it so like 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:54.920 the Italian cheese. The Dutch cheese is marked with the 0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.919 name of the farm, logo, serial number, but that doesn't 0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:01.200 matter on the black market bird. No one's been caught, 0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:04.200 cheese never recovered. What's your ridiculous takeaway? 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.319 Apparently I need to get into cheese crime, I think 0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.880 so I wouldn't get caught, get back into crime. Nobody 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:12.360 would know. It's a little subtle ease back. It is 0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:13.239 like dipping your toe in. 0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:15.600 The passed out on the country roads. 0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:19.319 Cheese crimes. It's cool. They catch me, they just give 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.560 the cheese away anyway, no harm, no foul, Insurance takes 0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:25.879 care of it. Nobody gets hurt. I gained a little weight, 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:29.120 little cheese. I got some cheese burps. Whatever, you know, 0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:34.319 no problem. Take away in all honesty is there's not 0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:36.640 enough of these crimes. I would think that there would 0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:39.399 be more food crimes. There are no, But I mean, 0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:43.560 like you could definitely do volume two through nine. But 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:46.000 I mean it's that like I thought there'd be more 0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:49.120 specific food crimes rather than like, oh, we just took 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:51.400 everything we could from this place, so all we went 0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:54.719 in and just like you know, basically pillage. I was 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.200 thinking like specific, like if somebody went in and took 0:52:57.320 --> 0:52:58.760 like Paris Hilton steak. 0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:00.479 Oh you want celebrit be crime. 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:02.080 No not, I'm just using her as a name that 0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:03.840 we've thrown in the way in the past. But I 0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:05.520 mean it's just somebody who was like I would love 0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.000 to hear about like Russell Crowe getting his lunch. 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:09.959 Do you want celebrity food crimes to get people? 0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.319 I could say my neighbors names. You don't know them, though. 0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:14.120 I just want something where it's like somebody went in 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:16.840 to go get their specific pie, Like like, okay, how 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:21.880 about this a pie eating contest winner is a turns 0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:23.880 out he's using performance enhancing drugs. 0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:25.680 Okay, well that's a kind of food crime you I'm 0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:26.080 talking about. 0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:28.200 All right, I'll come back with you two I'm. 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:30.760 Not all on you perfect that's it for today. 0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:31.600 I like those. 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.920 You can find us online at ridiculous crime dot com. 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:41.800 We're at ridiculous Crime on Twitter, Instagram, I don't know threads, flurcle, uh, triangle, 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:46.040 don't fangle, don't email ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com. 0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:49.040 Do leave a talk back in the iHeart app. That's it. 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:58.000 Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and Zaren Burnette, 0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:01.880 produced and edited by Cheese Some to the Stars Dave Cousten. 0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:06.920 Research is by Marissa Badass, Verada Brown and Andrea Criminal 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:10.200 Colby Song Sharpened Hear. 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