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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, am welcome to Season to twelve. Episode

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Speaker 1: one of jis like guys to a production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. It is Season to twelve where the players

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Speaker 1: dwell and this is a podcast where you take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Monday, November twenty,

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Speaker 1: which is of course National Cranberry Relish Daybody getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the Thanksgiving? Does cranberry relish like tie in just

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Speaker 1: like cran sauce? Cranberry? You know, I don't know. I'm guessing,

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Speaker 1: but I wish I cared enough. I don't like cranberry sauce,

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Speaker 1: Like it's one of the things I don't mess with

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Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving. So I have very low, not much interest.

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Speaker 1: But I'm guessing it's like the fancy kind that's not

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Speaker 1: in the can because the camp feels like jelly. But

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Speaker 1: then when you're like cooking yourself with cranberries and you've

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Speaker 1: got like some real cranberry fruit meat in there, then

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Speaker 1: then you're in relish town. Yeah, yeah, I relish a

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Speaker 1: good blog of cranberry gel used to love that ship.

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Speaker 1: Just put it on a Deli slicer's window pane. Fin Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien, a K, Hey, I just

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Speaker 1: met you. This might seem shady, but here's my podcast.

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Speaker 1: Come guessed It? Maybe it makes me tired. We dropped

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Speaker 1: twice daily, but here's my podcast. Come guess It. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that is courtesy Johnny Davis. I don't know how he

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Speaker 1: found out how I reach out to every one of

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Speaker 1: our guests, but that is in fact, I just reach

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Speaker 1: out to them and send them a voice memo one

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Speaker 1: of a few times I use a voice mamo. Just anyways.

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Speaker 1: I also don't know why it seems shady task somebody

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Speaker 1: to be on a podcast, but these days, am I right? Anyways?

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my co host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray's Miles Grade. Don't have much of an

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Speaker 1: AK except for the traditional one, which is it's North

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Speaker 1: Hollywood's very little black and knees experimental visual artists. You

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Speaker 1: know me as your boy Kausama, Thank you well, Miles Worth.

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Speaker 1: Thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a

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Speaker 1: very funny comedian and reporter who, as a lifestyle journalist,

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Speaker 1: flew across the country to be snubbed by Kim Kardashian

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Speaker 1: and locked herself inside the Mall of America. But these

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Speaker 1: days her beat is Disney and Everything theme park, and

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Speaker 1: her writing has appeared in Vanity, Fair, GQ, wire Cutter, Bloomberg,

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Speaker 1: GLAMOURU Time, just all the all the ones. Her podcast,

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Speaker 1: Very Amusing about theme Parks is super fun. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: the brilliant and talented Carle Wise. Hello, Hello, Hello, I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy to be here. Thank you for being here.

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Speaker 1: Where were you're We're on Earth? Are you coming to

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Speaker 1: us from currently West Hollywood? I thought you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: inside like the Magic Castle or whatever. I mean. I

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Speaker 1: was inside the Star Wars Hotel about four days ago.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, oh it was interesting. We got a very

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Speaker 1: early preview of it. But I've never been so excited

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Speaker 1: to not see the sun right right right. I just

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Speaker 1: want to be all in there for a day and

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Speaker 1: a half straight, just soaking it up. Oh man, why

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Speaker 1: do you not see the sun? And by the way,

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Speaker 1: this does tie back to the co written house thing

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Speaker 1: because we are saying, na see, but why do you

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Speaker 1: not see the sun while you are in the Star

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Speaker 1: Wars Hotel? Because every window looks out onto space. Yeah

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Speaker 1: what it's a projection? Yeah, so like, yeah, it opens

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Speaker 1: much first, and we got to see the cabins or

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Speaker 1: like you know, each hotel room, which I was very

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Speaker 1: excited to see in real life, and the window. It

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Speaker 1: is truly like just out into space, and it changes

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Speaker 1: throughout the day and then at night you push a

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Speaker 1: on a ship and you can sleep on a top bunk.

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Speaker 1: I'm very good about It's cool. That's like as we

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Speaker 1: I'm a space worker for however expensive those rooms are

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Speaker 1: at the moment, but I'll save my money to do it. Right.

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Speaker 1: Is the experience they're replicating the experience of being on

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Speaker 1: the Death Star? What do we what are we looking

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Speaker 1: experience is called Star Wars Galactic Star Cruiser. It's a

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Speaker 1: tonight mix of hotel stay, immersive theater, interactive gameplay, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: And there's a narrative throughout the journey or your hotel stay,

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Speaker 1: first order. So anything could happen, but there is. I

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Speaker 1: first a few of the things we're talking about. America

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Speaker 1: is still a white supremacist violent shitscape, which we learned

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Speaker 1: and just what the alternatives are to be that. We

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Speaker 1: will talk about a new theme park, the Carly. I'm

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Speaker 1: wrong about that. It's called the Rig. Oh wait till

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Speaker 1: you hear all about it. It's in Saudi Arabia. It's

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Speaker 1: part of Saudi Arabia's rebranding effort, which is fun. Before

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Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history so related? All of it was Star Wars

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Speaker 1: But I have been. I mean, I've been mainlining Law

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Speaker 1: basically like my my new personality, hobby and job all

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Speaker 1: been to the immersive SVU experience at six Flags? I

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Speaker 1: also love though two. I mean I've I've watched it

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Speaker 1: it last for you? Thank you. I know there's definitely

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Speaker 1: some deep seated psychological reason where I'm like, it'll never

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Speaker 1: they reference being actual people that exist in New York City.

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Speaker 1: but it's all just about them living very boring, ordinary

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Speaker 1: if it's technically counts, but only having trees in your

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Speaker 1: But there's something about having the real life tree that

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Speaker 1: arrested and charged with pointing a gun at police, for

426
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Speaker 1: which he faces three to twenty seven years in prison.

427
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: He's currently not allowed to possess a gun or access

428
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: social media while he awaits trial. Because these are American values.

429
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: This isn't like, that's what's so enraging about this is

430
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: That was the point. The point of the Kyle Writtenhouse

431
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: trial was getting him to like be buddy buddy with

432
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: the judge so everybody could see that, to see like, no,

433
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: this is what we condone, and like this other thing

434
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: is what we don't condone. The I mean more more

435
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: than that, I think the verdict, you know, because I

436
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: see a lot I mean on the right people like

437
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: where where's black lives matter here? At these things white

438
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: people that got killed by Kyle Rottenhouse, and like they're like,

439
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 1: this is the thing. You don't understand that this person

440
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 1: was there in service of white supremacy. And what this

441
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: verdict is really saying, it's it's it's it's trying to

442
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: erode solidarity. You know, because a lot of people began

443
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: to understand, not that's not enough, but many people in

444
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: this country said, you know what, yeah this is bad

445
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: and I should actually stand, you know with these people

446
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: who are oppressed and use my privilege as a way

447
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: to maybe try and change things, maybe better things. And

448
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: I would like to be an ally to this movement.

449
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: But what this is showing you too, is it's showing

450
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: that even white people who are considering ally ship that

451
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: your whiteness will not protect you if you are standing

452
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: in direct opposition to white supremacy, because at that point,

453
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: you it's your Your life is just as disposable as

454
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: a person of colors. And for many people looking at this,

455
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: it's just it. I can only imagine what what kind

456
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: of what the subtext or what how other people are

457
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: reading into it. But from my perspective, it's clear to

458
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: see that this is definitely made to also send a

459
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: warning shot across people who are saying, you know what,

460
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: if you're on that side, just so you know, it's

461
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: the rules will be different, and you know, and and again,

462
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: this legal system has done its job because, just like

463
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: we said in that summer right, white supremacy is a

464
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: living organism that has to survive no matter what. It

465
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: finds ways to survive. It's not just simply saying like,

466
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: all right, we've legislated against it, it's over. Because the

467
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: second there's mass public action that is kind of showing

468
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: up and brewing against it, it's going to find these

469
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: ways to reinforce the message that these public actions are

470
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: not powerful enough to topple this. Because inherent to all

471
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: of this is a legal system that is meant to

472
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: justify and rationalize all of this violence and using it's

473
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: perceived impartiality as a legal system quote unquote to again

474
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: say no, no, no, there's ways that we can make

475
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: this work, especially if, like Kyle Rittenhouse, you're there in

476
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: service of white supremacy or property rights or however somebody

477
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: wants to spend. Yeah, And so, I mean this is

478
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: especially frustrating because it seems like, you know, at the moment,

479
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: the defund the police movement has been losing popularity. They

480
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: lost a big battle in Minneapolis where they voted to

481
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: keep the existing police force. And as we talked about

482
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: last month, there's sort of a mainstream narrative that is

483
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: tying the rise in violent crime and murder to police defunding,

484
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: even though nobody actually defunded the police to a degree

485
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: that they were like crippled. And what happened as police

486
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: budgets got minor cuts from absurd heights, well they got

487
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: three less bazookas, right, and you know that kept them

488
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: from being armed like Navy seals to police their communities.

489
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: And the main thing that happened was the police basically

490
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: quit on their communities for daring to criticize them and

491
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: I also think there's probably a breakdown in the public

492
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: trust and police, as it's revealed that police are both

493
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, continuing to be armed, willing to use deadly force,

494
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: and extremely bad at their job. So I I don't

495
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: think that's helpful. But the solutions seemed to be defund

496
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: the police, which was interpreted by the mainstream media as like, away, yeah,

497
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: police gone forever and one one won't work anymore, Yeah,

498
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: and then double down on a system of militarized fuko

499
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: boomerang police force that like is just basically occupying forces

500
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: being in American cities and in neighborhoods that they don't

501
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: live in, but that are in American cities and where

502
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: they are willing to use deadly force. Like that's being

503
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: treated as like, well, it's either no police or we

504
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: keep doubling down on this fucking nightmare scenario. So I

505
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: did just want to like take a second to like

506
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: check in with what defunding the police could actually look

507
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are treating it like it's

508
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: a branding thing, and I don't know, like that's I

509
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: think frustrating. I mean, it's not that it's a branding thing,

510
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: but people and Americans again, because of the amount of

511
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: propaganda we consume throughout our lifetimes, we're we're we're just

512
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: still so invested in these cruel systems, and we're at

513
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: this point where we can acknowledge the cruelty of the systems,

514
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: but not quite able to articulate the way past it

515
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: or through it. You know, Like everyone goes, damn man, ship.

516
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: This seems like even especially as it relates to that

517
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 1: right now, to like labor, right, everyone's like, man, this

518
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: is sucked up. Like people are just like, yeah, now

519
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: that I think about it, this is fucked up. But

520
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: we're sort of because there's so much other messaging that

521
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: is gonna, you know, keep away, things like giving people

522
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: the imagination on how to make something better for themselves,

523
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: whether that's through collective bargaining or through withhold, you know,

524
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: because they're now people organically with holding their labor. There's

525
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: just there's a difficulty in articulating to say, yes, this

526
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: is fucked up. The thing we need to do is X.

527
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: We're just not there's not enough Americans who are able

528
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: to get to that part. Many people are just at

529
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: the part who are like, yes, this is fucked up.

530
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: You're right this is sucked up. The police just I'm

531
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: actually just realized, Yeah, it does seem like the police

532
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: just go after people of color and they're not punished

533
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: for it because we have things like qualified immunity. That's

534
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: fucked up. Now what? And I think the first thing

535
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: that people that was brought to the table in terms

536
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: of like the vocabulary to use was defund the police,

537
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: because that was more acknowledging the fact the injustice of

538
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: what our law enforcement system is like that this cannot

539
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: we cannot abide anymore. And because it was co opted

540
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: to just mean the end of all public safety, that

541
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: can immediately just put a chilling effect on things and

542
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: people were unable to Again, we need to be able

543
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: to pivot to yes, it's fucked up, and we need

544
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: to move towards this. And if we're always stuck at

545
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: things are fucked up, it's very hard to begin organizing

546
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: around certain things. And and like you're saying, you have

547
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: some people who are really talking about completely changing what

548
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: it means to have like law enforcement and what public

549
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: safety is and the people who can be involved or

550
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: the specialties that we need for that. But I don't know,

551
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: I feel like everything kind of keeps evolving in this

552
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: way that it's it's just become very difficult to kind

553
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: of escape or not escape, but to keep telling people

554
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: that it's not merely just saying the end of your safety,

555
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: that we have to actually there are other ways to

556
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: keep people safe, and on paper, the cops aren't doing

557
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: a good job. I think it has to be compounded

558
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: by the fact too, that it lately it feels like

559
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: every sphere of society is just fucked, just everything, especially

560
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: that we are we're still in a pandemic. It doesn't

561
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: seem like it's ending anytime soon. I read something there's

562
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: another strain coming, like we're just in this and you

563
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: can't even count on someone to wear a mask, to

564
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: try not to actively kill you, to get a vaccine

565
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: for the better the community. It just seems like there's

566
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: such a divide in in such a deep, deep way

567
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: that it really is everything that needs to change requires teamwork,

568
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: and there's so many people who just don't give a

569
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: ship that it feels like at times, like an impossible

570
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: mountain to climb. Yeah, And I think and that's by

571
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: design to you know, like I think, to to help

572
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: people feel so the sense of despair or like lack

573
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: of control over anything can easily put just put people

574
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: into this new thing about saying, well, the solution isn't

575
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna be how am I gonna work with other people?

576
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: The solution is fucking get your house in order and

577
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: figure out how you're gonna weather this without the help

578
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: of anyone. Because I think that's the message that's reflected

579
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: to people by society and the government at large. It's

580
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: just like you're on your own mother. I feel like, yeah,

581
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: I feel like that's exactly like rather than you know,

582
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: being like, well, if only these people would vote for

583
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: like what is good for them, Like I feel like

584
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: that's where a lot of it ends, is like these

585
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: people are idiots. Like I think a lot of the

586
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: problems come from the fact that everybody in America's existing

587
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: in a society where if you don't have enough money,

588
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: you that will let you die. Like that's that's just

589
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: like it's a cruel, cold, fucking world. And it's also

590
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, we're being stripped of our humanity by capitalism

591
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: and by just like being you know, turned into values

592
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: on a on a spreadsheet. And I think that's like

593
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: been a long, slow process, and people are fucking beat

594
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: down from it. So there's this Rice University article that

595
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: kind of takes a look at where alternatives to policing

596
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: should be focused on the first categories health, you know,

597
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: like mental health and drug abuse resources. The vast majority

598
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: of patrol police over in Seattle address multiple people in

599
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: mental health crisis every month, Like that's that is the

600
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: main thing. Like I I was dropping my kids off

601
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: at school on Friday morning, drove past someone who's clearly

602
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: in having a mental health crisis, and my only recourse

603
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: like was to call nine one one basically, or like

604
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: stop and do something about it myself, because I don't

605
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: know what, like what are the mental health like authorities?

606
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: And if I call nine one one for help, a

607
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: person who is scared is gonna with a gun is

608
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: going to show up. Like that's what the police have

609
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: the ability to do, is like use a gun. So

610
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: that's how they solve the problem. Yeah, And you know

611
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: this is like everything that the police are there for. Again,

612
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: they're there to clean up the failures of this capitalist

613
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: system that we're in. We have mental health problems because

614
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: we will not take care of people with mental health problems,

615
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: will not take care of people who need interventions for

616
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: their drug abuse or need to go into a treatment program.

617
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: So we allow that to fester and it turns into

618
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: someone on the street acting out and people go, oh

619
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: my god, I can't know this person is doing something.

620
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: I gotta call the police to get them away from me.

621
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: When really that's because we failed to take care of somebody.

622
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: You look again, we talk about crimes of desperation, survival

623
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: crime like theft in shoplifting and ship like that. That's

624
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: not that's not because they're fucking Tony Soprano, because they

625
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: just they just stole a bunch of en famil. That's

626
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: not what the funk is going on. It's because people

627
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: have been failed. People have we have failed to take

628
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: care of each other. We have failed to create or

629
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: provide sustenance or the materials needed to survive. So people

630
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: are left to their own devices and have to go

631
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: out and survive. And that's where the police come in

632
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: because we've criminalized needing help. We've criminalized being vulnerable, we've

633
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: criminalized being poor. And then but what we've created, but

634
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 1: we've completely obscured this dynamic through this lens of law

635
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: enforcement and the good guys and the bad guys in

636
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: this binary that that's all it is, rather than no, no, no,

637
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: This is most of us are being brutalized by the

638
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: same people and for the same reasons because we're not

639
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: getting what we need to survive. Yeah, I feel like

640
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: so one of the you know, examples that we've talked

641
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: about before on this show, the Rice University article talks

642
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: about is Cahoots, which is the Cornalie named Eugene, Oregon

643
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: organization that started as just a thing to like help

644
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: people who are having bad trips essentially, and has developed into,

645
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, a very continually useful alternative to the police

646
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: that can come and help somebody who is having a

647
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: mental health crisis. And a lot of times their job

648
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: is to just be a person who can do whatever

649
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: is required at the time. You don't need like special training.

650
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: It just seems like there's so many fucking jobs that

651
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: could be created by supplementing the police with people who

652
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: don't fucking murder people, Like, like, how about how about

653
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: we try that just create a police of people who

654
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: actually live in the communities and are there to solve

655
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: problems instead of like treat people like enemy cabatants, Right,

656
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: And you know, there have been examples of this with

657
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: people who are there to help with relationship crises domestic violence,

658
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: which you know a lot of times people who are

659
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: engaging in domestic violence, you know, move on to other

660
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: violent crimes, but it certainly doesn't help that the thing

661
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: they're met with when they first engaged with in domestic

662
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: violence is somebody pointing a gun at them, and that's

663
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: the only it's either like funneled towards prison or like

664
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: figure it out yourself, you know, no mental health resources,

665
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: not no relationship resources. And the other just community patrol

666
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: in America has traditionally been fucking Kyle Rittenhouse and George

667
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Zimmerman and people like that, where you know, people armed

668
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: white people who are racist thinking that they need to

669
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, just basically playing police officer, and like there's

670
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: that needs to be supplemented with some you know, the

671
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: Black Panthers were there to police the police, and they

672
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: were treated like a violent, fucking extremist organization, which is

673
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: all you need to know about the difference in how

674
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: America approaches these things. But that's another option that is

675
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: probably the least tested, but the one that absolutely needs

676
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: to be pursued more than it has to this point. Yuh,

677
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: just thinking about you know, like the whole thing that

678
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: by America being so intentionally cruel, and that's sort of

679
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: like the the sort of foundation that like life is

680
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: built on and keeping people most people, you know, like

681
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: in a place where they feel like, well, my only

682
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: thing that I have is to survive because I'm not

683
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: looking at it. I'm not looking at many things that

684
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: will help me. Granted there are some, there are social

685
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: safety nets out there, but in general, the messages if

686
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: you don't like, if you don't have of, then you

687
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: will continue to lack and then you will expire. And

688
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: I think it puts people. It helps always keep people

689
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: divided because of that, because if you're always acknowledging that

690
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: you're in this survival situation, altruism doesn't make sense all

691
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: the time because you're already accepting that you're in a

692
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: you're in a situation where surviving is number one. And

693
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: if that's the case, it's you know, for lack of

694
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: a better metaphor, it's like looking like the squid Game

695
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: Marbles episode where suddenly when it's time to survive, you'll

696
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: do whatever the funk you have to do. That's just

697
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: human nature. And and and it's such a elegant way

698
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: to continue to keep people from being able to group together,

699
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: to organize together, because we're too busy fucking dealing with

700
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: the chaos of like the cruel reality that we're in

701
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, and I feel like the fact

702
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: that there aren't all these jobs like there people recognize

703
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: their community, these are fucked they recognize that, like there

704
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: is work to be done there. The fact that those

705
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: jobs aren't created yet, I feel like it's like a

706
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: hangover from a previous time when people like weren't didn't

707
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: give a funk about their communities. And you know, I

708
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know, like it just feels like this is a

709
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: problem that could be addressed if people just act locally.

710
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: And Yeah, I don't know, there there are the people,

711
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: there is the will to do things to help. I mean,

712
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: most people were probably are probably better at I mean,

713
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: I would say every person who lives in a neighborhood

714
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: is will be better at policing their neighborhood than the

715
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: fucking police. Yeah, where you live, you know who the

716
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: fuck you literally, you know who's in your community. Say,

717
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: oh that Britain, I don't worry about them, They're kind

718
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: of going through it. Yeah, that's I know them. There

719
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: there's more, there's more context to who this person is

720
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: rather than a call saying someone is bacting belligerent and

721
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 1: is you know, threatening people the shopping art or something,

722
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: because like you're saying, we're people were not weren't the

723
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: things aren't of our communities anymore? And yeah, I mean

724
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: it just I just think of how much even like

725
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: where I grew up, I knew so much about my neighborhood.

726
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: I knew so much about people who I saw. I

727
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: saw the same regular un housed people all the time,

728
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: to the point where like I knew what the funk

729
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: they were like im like, I knew what they were

730
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: gonna ask me for, I knew what their whole rap was.

731
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: And it's and you understand, you're at that point you

732
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: actually have a better idea of like what is a threat?

733
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: What is a danger to to you, your safety or

734
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: the community at large. But anyway, maybe we'll begin to

735
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: have a reckoning one day in America, but we've been

736
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: reckoning free since fucking whenever. You want to put a

737
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: date to it. All right, let's take a quick break.

738
00:41:49,360 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: We'll come back, and we're back and we just met

739
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: the break getting ourselves in the proper headspace for this

740
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: conversation by watching a preview clip of The Rig, which

741
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: is a oil rig in Saudi Arabia that has been

742
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: converted into an amusement park. The trailer for it, I

743
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: guess was, you know, set to thumping uh E d

744
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: M music. And I don't know, Carly, You're you're the

745
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: you're the expert here. What what? What are we looking

746
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: at here? That we're looking at the first ten minutes

747
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: of a horror film? For sure? Nothing good is happening there.

748
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: And the thing is, there's this very fine line between

749
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: theme park and amusement park, where theme parks are holistically

750
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: designed to kind of transport you to another universe, you know,

751
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: something like fantasy Land or tomorrow Land. It's supposed to

752
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: bring in story and narrative and characters really flesh out

753
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: and experience beyond just sitting in a ride vehicle. Amusement

754
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: parks are more focused on individual attractions. Sometimes they have themings,

755
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't. This is not a pleasing place to

756
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: look at or visit. I don't care how long that

757
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: water slide looks. I don't want to be anywhere near

758
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: that nightmare. Don't like it just looks bleak and sad

759
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: and scary, and the setting just adds to the lower Yeah,

760
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: I hate it. You look at an overhead shot of

761
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: this and it looks like a amusement park from water World,

762
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: Like it looks like it's been built out of garbage

763
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: that previous right, and you all like you all pray

764
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: to the guy who was the captain of the Axon

765
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Valdis like the smokers did in water World. But yeah,

766
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: and I just want to say this. You're right, it's

767
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: not an amusement park or a theme park because, as

768
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund calls it, this is

769
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: a quote oil themed extreme park. I'm sorry, oil oil. Yes,

770
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: this is in the press. The ring will be an

771
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: oil the Indo Extreme Park, spanning a total area of

772
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: more than one square meters in sitting at top of

773
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: converted oil rig in the Arabian Gulf. And I'm just

774
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: gonna give just for people have a little more understanding

775
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: of like what we're talking about here. So they've converted

776
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: this rig right to have play hosted extreme sports, hellapads

777
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: quote a range of adventurous activities. They'll be rolling. There's

778
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: a roller coaster we saw that was like built into

779
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: the ringing rigging. They'll be skydiving. There's three hotels with

780
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: over eight hundred rooms, eleven restaurants, and one that is

781
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: under the water. There's so many ways to die here. Like,

782
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know why this is appealing to anyone. Yeah,

783
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: it's through like the way it looked Jack, like you

784
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: said water wheel, because it all has like that patina,

785
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: like that sea rust look to it, and I feel like, yo,

786
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: the second you step on there, like you're getting tetans, right,

787
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: that's like that just feels like the energy that's it's

788
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: like that it's emitting. Even though it looks cool. I

789
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: guess to fix a ferris wheel to the side of

790
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: the fucking thing. The I am in on this, by

791
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: the way, I want to go here. This looks and book.

792
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: Look they're already paid, they already there. They got to him.

793
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: He's doing pr he's doing a junk. Get out there.

794
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: It looks terrifying. But like, if you're going to go

795
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: on a scary roller coaster, why not have it like

796
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: weaving through the you know, webbed like rebar of a

797
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: dilapidated oil rig that like is groaning under the weight

798
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: of all this all these rides that they've put on it.

799
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: Like there's no way that thing is not making noises

800
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: as it's like just creaking right the debut weekend, opening weekend,

801
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: There'll be an accident. Right. This thing looks like the

802
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: Santa Monica pere in the your Like it just looks

803
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: like this is the last thing you see before Earth

804
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: ceases to exist, right, and like it's just this weird

805
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: mind like just okay, like just looking at all the

806
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: fucking layers of this whole thing, right, because first Saudi

807
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Arabia just to get into it, their whole thing is

808
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: right now, they are trying to completely rebrand because they're

809
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: trying to get away from they're trying to get away

810
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: from headlines like Mohammed been Salmon is like killing children

811
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: and Yemen or extra judicially assassinating people and foreign embassies

812
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: to more stuff like holy Ship, Saudi Arabia built the

813
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: coolest theme park you know, like that is there. It's

814
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: all part of this sort of reputation washing scheme that's

815
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: been going on very aggressively the last ten years, especially

816
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: like now they just bought Newcastle United the football the

817
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: soccer team in in the UK and caused a huge

818
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: like people were like, what the funk were You're literally

819
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: just gonna allow the like Saudi Arabian government to just

820
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: buy this like story team just to wash their reputation

821
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: with like the glory that you know they'll bring with

822
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 1: their money to this club. And then even like when

823
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: Trump went into office, we knew about how like American

824
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: media and David Pecker and those guys at the National

825
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: Enquirer were like doing all kinds of like these slick

826
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: like magazines out of nowhere about Mohammed been Salmon or

827
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: being like is Saudi Arabia the new dude bai? And

828
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: you're like, huh is it? I feel like they're are

829
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of influencers who went there to either fashion

830
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: or something along those lines where everyone's like, I'm sorry,

831
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: what are you posting like for a fun little trip?

832
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: Is this bad? It's funny how those people were like,

833
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I just thought it was also don't

834
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: go there on a junket please, Yeah, And I think

835
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: so there's that, right, there's this reputation washing scheme which

836
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: this is all in service of because they want to

837
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: become a new tourist destination by the by, and then

838
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: you have like the idea of like a decommissioned oil

839
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: rig which is like the source of all of like

840
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: our earthly problems like with fossil fuel extraction, and then

841
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: mapping on top of that like a place to be like, hey,

842
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: this old skeleton, that's the bygone thing that m I

843
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: guess still the thing that's keeping us from protecting the earth.

844
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: What if we put restaurants and fucking eight h like

845
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: again oil themed. I'm sure I can't imagine if there's

846
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: like an oil education section. What is an oil themed anything?

847
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Like the layers of propaganda are really Maybe that's every

848
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: floor of the hotel. It's like a different scheme. Maybe

849
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: they'll have what's his name's character from there will be

850
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: blood as like one of the dress up characters that

851
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: like will yell at you about drinking your milkshake. Oh dude,

852
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: it'll be a thing as it's a restaurant. Was a

853
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: Daniel play You can? You can? It's like step right

854
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: up and try and drink my milk shake, and like

855
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: all you try to drink from like a three like

856
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: a fucking thirty meter straw and be like, I can

857
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: just see that kind of nonsense. Yeah, I mean not

858
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: to be like way too journalistic about this, but they

859
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: are lacking an I P component because there are there's

860
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: there's no like if I'm looking at this very literally

861
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: without all of the terrifying backstory, there are no characters

862
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: that are familiar to people, there are no storylines, there's

863
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: no movie tie in there except for when I looked

864
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: it up, a movie called The Rig, which I think

865
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: is a horror movie. There's nothing to actually draw this

866
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: tourism that they are pulling out of nothing. So a

867
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: lot of times of stuff, they release these renderings and

868
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: they just take forever and the things fall apart and

869
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: I assume, I mean, they have money, so it could happen.

870
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: But nobody is going to plan a trip around this

871
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: because there's no hook beyond it being I don't know

872
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: if people have craved an oil themed exterial, there's no

873
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: there's no hook. There's first of all, okay, you know

874
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: it's not oil has been bad, but they're turning that

875
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: frown the apocalypse upside down by by putting smiles on

876
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: people's faces on something that did bring about the apocalypse.

877
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: But like for now, it's lit. They're doing something with

878
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: levels that I have not seen done. Like I've never

879
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: seen a you know, a roller coaster or a bunch

880
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: of like water slides like kind of going through buildings,

881
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: which I think is like a cool like that that's

882
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: kind of hinted at by the park design and is

883
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: it not. No, there's there's there. There are definitely roller

884
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: coasters that will go through structures that are like that.

885
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: That's kind of the appeal. There is a lot of

886
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: intertwining here, but more in a way that makes me

887
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: scared for the structural significance of Yeah, no, this is

888
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: a this is a total nightmare, but like also I

889
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, it's like the firefest of theme parks

890
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: where it's like I'm not I don't want to go,

891
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: but like i't gonna, Yeah, I want total nightmare. I

892
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: Mean it's weird because I pulled up a link about

893
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: it and it's this website arch paper dot com and

894
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: the text of it is as noted by CNN, Saudia

895
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: Radio Lexe, the International tourism drop some of its neighbors

896
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: due in part to the appalling history of human rights

897
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: abuses and script restrictions placed on women, and you scroll

898
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: up and it's a screen grab of that promotional video

899
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: with a girl in a tank top just screaming on

900
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: a coaster, and it's like, this is discordant, this is

901
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: not together international waters. We loosen the rules over here

902
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: and anything goes on an oil rig I suppose yeah, right,

903
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: I don't know suddenly, like and yeah, our strict repressive laws. Also, hey,

904
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let that get in the way of tourism, folks,

905
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: let's believe us. I'd like to see that. And also

906
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: I don't know who this like. Again, I don't know

907
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: how many people. If they're saying internationally, right, I'll speak

908
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: very narrowly about the United States. What person the US is, Like, dude,

909
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: I have been you know what's been on my fucking list.

910
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: We already we went to we went to Tokyo, we

911
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: went to Iceland, we went to Coast a Rica, Like

912
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: now we got to go to the Arabian Gulf to

913
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: suck it, and then I want to go to ri

914
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: odd okay, because it's a popping over there. I just

915
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: don't again, like you're saying, the draw isn't clear. The

916
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: value proposition isn't clear aside from I think just to

917
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: say that it's like the most extreme fucking thing it's

918
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: it's it's itself is a spectacle it all in all,

919
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: it just seems joyless, which I don't think is the

920
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: point of any of this. Yeah, right right, Like I guess, yeah,

921
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: you can tell that. It's like, no, this isn't who

922
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: you Even the actors in the video the promotional videos

923
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: seem like they are acting like they're having fun at gunpoint,

924
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: like they don't. They're like, yeah, I love the rig.

925
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't get what it is though, because I love

926
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: an attraction on a cruise ship, like a roller coaster

927
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: on a cruise ship. Cruise ship, sign me the funk up.

928
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: But this I hate, even though it's it's essentially also

929
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: on water, also an amusement. Something about it permanently being

930
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: out there where you can truly fault your death at

931
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: any moment. It just doesn't sit right. It looks rusty

932
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: as it looks you can already see. Have you ever

933
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: met somebody who you're like, oh, I know exactly what

934
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna look like as an elderly person, Like do

935
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: you know that? Like you're just like, oh, yeah, like

936
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: I see that. I know where this is going. Yeah,

937
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: well so mild you you look like an old now

938
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm just talking. Uh no, this looks like I I

939
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: looking at this, I can already see it in like

940
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: a post apocalyptic landscape, like that's what's in the water world. Yeah,

941
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: it is, honestly to your point about the I p

942
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: if this was branded as a water work, you, I'm

943
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: fucking somehow. I'm suddenly like, oh I love Mohammed Bins.

944
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: It was smooth it over a bit and have a

945
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: jet ski and live my dreams. Yeah. And and already

946
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: it's like funked up in Nightmariage because you're pre supposing

947
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: that the world has already collapsed due to climate change

948
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: and you're there to yuck it up with like the

949
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: smokers and some guys speaking Portra Greek with webbed feet

950
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: and gills behind his ears. Yea, yeah, I mean it

951
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: fits everything. Like. One thing, one kind of dissonant aspect

952
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: of the video but not the most striking one obviously,

953
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: is that they're scuba diving in it, which like, so

954
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: it's like a theme part where you can go scuba

955
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: diving underneath it, which who has not wanted to scuba

956
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: diver around a fucking rusty oil rig. But you know,

957
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: if it's water World, that that makes sense. He could

958
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: bring under wall and this is so fucked up, But

959
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: I think like you build like full scale because they

960
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: have the money of a city that has just been

961
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: completely submerged by a sea level rise and that's what

962
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: you scuba dive through. Yeah, I mean that's a story.

963
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: Show me my eventual fate, you know, right exactly, and

964
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: then like somehow it's like acting as like a great

965
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: inspiration for people, like we have to get off fossil fuel, guys,

966
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: this is a good ideacular one. There's gotta be there's

967
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: gotta be like decommissioned oil rigs in America. We turn

968
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: them into like future world, Yeah, actual future land, like people,

969
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: we got our oil, We could get that I P

970
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: for cheap. You know that we could actually have hair

971
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: restoration procedures out there. Since Kevin Costner, I guess most

972
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: of that budget was spent on digitally redoing his hair. Yeah,

973
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: because it didn't it didn't quite work. And they all

974
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: know there's a long running water World show it in Hollywood,

975
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: right studios, Yes, yes, yeah, I mean the stunt Show

976
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: because it used to be on Miami Vice Stunt Show,

977
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: which is funny because for that that that Miami Vice

978
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: Stunt Show went on for years past when anyone gave

979
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: a funk about Miami Vice. And the same with the

980
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: water World thing too, Like I bet they're like generations

981
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: of kids who will go there, Like is water World?

982
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's been decades, I believe just I mean,

983
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: it's a proven concept if we really want to sell it, right, Yeah, yeah,

984
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: that's true. So somebody already has, yeah ship. It's wild

985
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: that they because nobody I went and saw water World.

986
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: I was excited about water World when it came out,

987
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 1: you know, I was like a child. I was like, hell, yeah, man,

988
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: this is like probably where we're all hiding. And but

989
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: I I remember like having the feeling that, h this

990
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: was like kind of cool. But nobody gives a ship

991
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: enough about it to like play water World ever. Yeah. Yeah.

992
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: It's a very holistic tie in the fact that you

993
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: would go to an oil rig and if you enjoy yourself,

994
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: be like, congrats, this is the future if you continue

995
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: to use oil, enjoy it, right, Yeah yeah, I like

996
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: clinging to oil rigs for your life. Alright, Carly, Well,

997
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: well we'll talk offline. We're gonna make this happen. Have

998
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: you ever did you I'm sure you're too young for

999
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: a river country. Did you ever hit river Country? And

1000
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: I know all about it. River Country is still my

1001
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: favorite amusement anything I've ever been to. Oh you lucky dog.

1002
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. River Country was just they built a

1003
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: water park into like a little chunk of the river

1004
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: in Orlando at Disney and it was I don't know,

1005
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: it was just cool. It like felt like it was

1006
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: like built out of like old like I don't know,

1007
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: like logging equip menten ship and like it felt a

1008
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: little tetnasy, but I loved that ship called me tetanasy Williams.

1009
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we just end the podcast and

1010
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: at this point a little lot right now, but that's it,

1011
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: uh ship. I wish I would have gone, Yeah, it

1012
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: was dope. I don't know if it was dope or

1013
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: it just hit me at the right time. I think

1014
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: I want when I was like eight or not. Yeah,

1015
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: hit that in typhoon lagoon and consecutive days and well, Carly,

1016
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: it's been such a pleasure having you on the daily.

1017
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on. This

1018
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: was a wonderful morning. Yes, yes, we did it all.

1019
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: We covered the whole spectrum, seriously, didn't Yeah, where can

1020
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: people find you and follow you? Oh? You can find

1021
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: me at Carly wise L on Twitter and Instagram or

1022
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: my podcast very amusing with Carly wise L anywhere they

1023
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: sell podcasts which were free. So just honestly, nobody has

1024
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: my names. Have you type in my name everything will

1025
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: come up. Yeah. Yeah, and we're spelling that name c

1026
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: R L y E W I s e L. Yeah. Yeah.

1027
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean it was annoying growing up that no one

1028
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: could pronounce my name. But now like every Google result

1029
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: is me, it's kind of nice. Like I'm googling myself

1030
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: a lot. I work in a field of bylines. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

1031
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh that's fine. We all do it. Yeah. I have

1032
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: Google alerts for for friends who I hope they'll be

1033
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: written about, and I always say, hey, bro, so you're

1034
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: still not popping up on I mean these days it's

1035
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 1: the only way I know my stuff is goes live.

1036
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, So your parents nailed it with you know,

1037
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: search engine optimization with thank you, h I was named

1038
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: for the most popular girl in my mom's high school

1039
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: and it ended up being a Google dream. Yeah, look

1040
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: at that and a combination of Carl and Yeah, Carl,

1041
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: Sagan and Kanye, So, yeah, you're right my two heroes. Yeah.

1042
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: Is there a tweet or some of the work of

1043
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying. Yes, Um, I'm torn between two,

1044
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: but I think my favorite the tweet my krill Tusk

1045
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: and it says smash that motherfucking like if you love

1046
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: the worm part of the bus, and it's a photo

1047
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: of the part that joins the two parts of the

1048
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: bus together. Yeah, I loved it because nobody it's one

1049
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: of those things that nobody talks about that I always

1050
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: try to go there because it feels a little bit

1051
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: like a ride and it was just nice to see

1052
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: it pop up in my feet and be represented. Yeah.

1053
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: My so funny. In like growing up in Japan, I

1054
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: will go to like in the middle of the train

1055
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: cars for that same again, this is where the ship moves,

1056
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: and my mom would regularly be like, get the fuck

1057
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: out of there. This isn't a ride. And now as

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Speaker 1: an adult, I like I'll do it from time to time,

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Speaker 1: or like in the New York Subway, I'll find myself

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Speaker 1: levitating draws out. I'm like, yeah, I can kind of

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Speaker 1: handle this right now. I like to go no hands

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Speaker 1: because it makes me feel I moved to LA from

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Speaker 1: New York, so it makes me feel like I still

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Speaker 1: have it. Oh. You know what's the best though, any

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Speaker 1: for subway writing culture is going hands free when it's

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Speaker 1: breaking to be like, watch me, watch me finesse the

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Speaker 1: stop and take off of the subway car with I'll

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Speaker 1: grab in the little hand, yes exactly, And people native

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Speaker 1: New Yorkers love when you do that. Oh yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: do it with my backpack. Everybody get it out of the

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Speaker 1: the way, my big gas backpack on my back, not

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Speaker 1: taking it off, and then like ending up pushing like

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Speaker 1: an mt A worker. And they asked me, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to get smacked. Miles. Can people find you with tweet

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Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Oh, you can find me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram at Miles of Gray and also the other

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Speaker 1: show for twenty Day Fiance where I talk ID fiance

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Speaker 1: with Sophia Alexandra Um. Let's see, man, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know it's a fucking tweet even like these days. How

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Speaker 1: about this one from at Arson do Er tweeted if

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Speaker 1: smoking so bad, why does it cure salmon? Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, and another one from Abby Govindon at abby

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Speaker 1: guv g o V tweeted quote, I'm an EmPATH. The

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Speaker 1: worst person you have ever met? Track sometimes up. Let's

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Speaker 1: see raunch on Pizza tweeted of a day, but for

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Speaker 1: your teeth after eating popcorn, which while we're inventing ship,

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Speaker 1: that's a good one. Water pick. It's like a water pick.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like, I mean for someone in my

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Speaker 1: line of work, I could use that. Hell yeah, like

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Speaker 1: a little pork and it just you do something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're like, there you go. Good mouth of a day,

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Speaker 1: There you go. And then that mom though tweeted hello darkness,

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Speaker 1: my old friend. Is it five or ten pm? Because

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Speaker 1: this daylight saving ship is fucking me up. I'll yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know not you are? You just adjusted to

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Speaker 1: the new sunlight like it's nothing. It's weird. I was

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Speaker 1: doing it very suddenly hit me like two days ago

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Speaker 1: where I was like, oh shit, I'm my circadian rhythms

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Speaker 1: back in line with like what the clock says normally

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Speaker 1: versus like me right now. Yah wow. I just get

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Speaker 1: very sad every day at four o'clock being like I

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Speaker 1: got nothing done, and then I'm like, oh, the sun

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Speaker 1: stole time away from me, right yeah? And also you're like,

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Speaker 1: why do I keep beating myself for not getting anything

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Speaker 1: done in accordings with the sun, like Yeoman Farmer. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were

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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have Facebook, fampage

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Speaker 1: and a website, Daily zeit geys dot com. Or we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes in our footnotes, or we link off

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Speaker 1: to the mess that we talked about today's episode, as

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Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do we think they might enjoy? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've been Lee's. They've been listening to a lot of

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Speaker 1: funk p H O n K, which I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: lie to. TikTok got me kind of more interested in

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Speaker 1: this musical genre where they take an eight oh a

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Speaker 1: cow bell and d tune it. Do you hear the

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Speaker 1: style of music? You're like, I know this kind of track,

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Speaker 1: but the producers are really good, and I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know sonically I'm really starting to gravitate towards it.

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Speaker 1: There's just something about it that's like, it feels like

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Speaker 1: dystopian hip hop. And this track is called odium O

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Speaker 1: d I U M from Last Century. And again, a

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Speaker 1: lot of these FONK producers put X is where the

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Speaker 1: vowels should go, so it's l x S, t c

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Speaker 1: X and t U r Y, So check that out.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go out on that, all right. Well, The

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Speaker 1: Daily Zai Guys is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever fun podcasts are

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Speaker 1: given away for free. That's gonna do it for us

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Speaker 1: this morning, but we're bad this afternoon. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what's trending and we'll talk to you all then. By

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Speaker 1: Snin