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Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating,

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Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. Now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Christie Scales, Aisha Morrison, Nicole Hutcheson and Jess Navares.

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Speaker 3: The SAP Cowboys Nation. Happy Thursday. Welcome to Girls Talk,

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Speaker 3: Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw, the preferred dating partner of

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. Right here in the SWBC studio, I'm Nicoleagerson,

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Speaker 3: Isis Morrison, Jess Navares and Christie Scales.

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Speaker 4: Ladies, I miss y'all.

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Speaker 5: How y'all doing?

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Speaker 4: I guess it has been a little it's been like

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Speaker 4: a week.

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Speaker 2: It's been more than a week. Technically, hey day, it's

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Speaker 2: been a week and a day in a long time.

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Speaker 4: Too bad, nothing's happened, huh.

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Speaker 2: I know, right, you know, we had.

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Speaker 6: So much to talk about, and I'm so glad christ

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Speaker 6: you can laugh about it.

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Speaker 7: I think that I'm always amused when people say, what

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Speaker 7: do you guys do in the off season?

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Speaker 4: It's like there is no true off season in the.

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Speaker 7: NFL, and not with this team, most certainly not with

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Speaker 7: this team, and certainly not with the week of the

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Speaker 7: owners meetings.

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Speaker 4: You know, with the rules changes.

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Speaker 7: And then of course at the owners meetings you've got

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Speaker 7: the Joneses and the head coaches for Cowboys, you know that, uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, make their statements and then everyone takes off

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Speaker 7: with that.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, quite a few new rule changes ahead of the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four season. Let's start with the kickoff rule change,

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Speaker 3: though first they've moved it to where now, of course,

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Speaker 3: kickers will still kick off the from the thirty five

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Speaker 3: yard line. The other ten players from the kicking team

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Speaker 3: would line up at the opposing forty, and then the

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Speaker 3: way that the receiving team will be lined up is

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Speaker 3: at least nine plays will line up on in a

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Speaker 3: five yard area between the thirty and the thirty five

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Speaker 3: yard line, and the kicker cannot cross the fifty, and

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Speaker 3: the rest of the kicking team along with those and

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Speaker 3: set up in that zone can't move until the ball

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Speaker 3: hits the ground fielded or lands in the end zones.

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Speaker 4: A lot of different movie parts, but.

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Speaker 3: The same as the XFL does I think they took

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Speaker 3: the data as far as that just making sure there's

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Speaker 3: not that many full speed collisions to kind of prevent injuries.

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Speaker 4: What do y'all think about that?

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Speaker 3: And how do y'all think this kind of helps the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: I'm excited about it because it brings back one of

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Speaker 7: the truly exciting plays in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: And so I just.

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Speaker 7: Remember every time you'd have, for example, a Devin hes

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Speaker 7: started to drop back, you know, Patterson now just signed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's it.

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Speaker 7: It's going to be dynamic, I think, And I think

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Speaker 7: it's also going to change strategy as well. You know,

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Speaker 7: you're not just I think it's going to change the

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Speaker 7: way people watch games. You're gonna have to get back

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Speaker 7: from your bathroom break or your concession break, or your

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Speaker 7: because you're going to want to see the kickoff because

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Speaker 7: it's not going to be an automatic touch back as

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Speaker 7: it's basically been for a couple of years. And we

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Speaker 7: know Brandon Aubrey set a record last year with ninety

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Speaker 7: nine touchbacks, you know, and I also we can yeah,

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Speaker 7: but the same wanna and so no, I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 7: I just wondered if you guys think it's a positive change.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, look, here's the thing about the

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Speaker 2: rule change is it gives opportunity for the special teams

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Speaker 2: I think when you're just getting touch back after touch

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Speaker 2: back after touchback, you truly don't appreciate how much special

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Speaker 2: does impact the game. So I think giving those guys

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Speaker 2: a Cavante Turpin, if he doesn't take more of a.

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Speaker 4: Role on offense, we don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just assuming it's still him, more of an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to really take the ball further. And Christy, I think

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Speaker 2: it was you that told me that what was the percentage.

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Speaker 4: Of twenty one percent?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that were actually not touchbacks last season, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that needed a change.

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Speaker 7: And then the other thing was in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 7: there were what thirteen kickoffs and then we're returned, And

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Speaker 7: so a lot of observers thought, Okay, that's the signal

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Speaker 7: for the change. If anything is going to change with

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Speaker 7: this high score, you know, Super Bowl and the kickoffs

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Speaker 7: were litter, kickoff returns were a non factor.

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Speaker 2: I also think shout out to Bones Fossil for care

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Speaker 2: we were heading this change, because that should show you

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Speaker 2: coaching staff. He's so smart, he's innovative, he's always thinking ahead,

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Speaker 2: and I just think he doesn't get enough love and

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Speaker 2: contributes for the Cowboys, but really across the NFL as well.

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Speaker 7: And this thing going with the XFL, this is something

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Speaker 7: that this is not something that just came up within

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Speaker 7: the off season. I remember us having a long time

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Speaker 7: talk about it at training camp out in Oxnard. And

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Speaker 7: what happens is during training camp, they'll be two maybe

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Speaker 7: three times where the coordinators are made available to the

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Speaker 7: media and they'll put them on the podium. It'll be

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Speaker 7: uh there on the tennis court. So it's it's a

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Speaker 7: similar setting to what Mike McCarthy, the Cowboys head coach,

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Speaker 7: does with his daily press conferences. But I had been

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Speaker 7: talking with coach Fossil about this and it was like

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Speaker 7: the day before his scheduled press conference, and so we

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Speaker 7: see each other the next day is getting ready to

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Speaker 7: go he's like, Hey, you know, I think I really

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Speaker 7: want to talk about this, you know, stuff for how

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Speaker 7: the XFL does. It's like, okay, I'll ask you about

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Speaker 4: So this isn't something that is just on a whim.

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Speaker 7: It's something that has been studied and put a lot

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Speaker 7: of a thought into it.

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Speaker 4: Aisha, what were you thinking.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited, Like just like you, I think just mentioned it.

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Speaker 6: Special teams is an element of the game that doesn't

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Speaker 6: get enough attention, I feel like and also too. I mean,

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Speaker 6: if you look at a lot of the playoff games

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Speaker 6: this past year, special teams was the difference even in

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Speaker 4: So special teams be a difference maker.

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Speaker 6: Start and field position plays a huge role in time

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Speaker 6: sometimes a lot this year may be able to benefit

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Speaker 4: So that's exciting.

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Speaker 6: Furthermore, when you mentioned that Bones was a part of

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Speaker 6: this coming into play, don't think he wasn't a part

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Speaker 4: For a reason. I'm very curious to see what he

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Speaker 6: You know, he's a sneaky dog in some of the

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Speaker 6: ways that he's able to implement some trick plays and

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Speaker 6: curious to see what he does with it the rule

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Speaker 6: able to navigate those to get some positive yardists for

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys and be able to have this offense starting

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's really going to change I think how

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Speaker 7: you build the team as well. I think it's going

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Speaker 7: to affect a couple of the bottom of the roster

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Speaker 7: kind of the fifty one through fifty three composition, because

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Speaker 7: you're not just going to have one person back to

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Speaker 4: You're going to have two.

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Speaker 7: Like for example, this past year, it would have been Cavante,

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Speaker 7: Turpin and probably Recodoubtle, each one taking a half. You know,

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Speaker 7: they're setting up at the goal line or the five

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Speaker 7: Deuce was inactive most games last year. But if he,

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Speaker 7: I'm kind of taking last year and projecting but I'm

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Speaker 7: just saying it can affect things like that. The other

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Speaker 7: thing is, Nicole, how you mentioned the kickers back at

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Speaker 7: the thirty yard line, and of course you're ten teammates

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Speaker 7: that would be covering. They would be running thirty yards

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Speaker 7: to be starting. Now that this okay, so the kicker

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Speaker 7: You don't have to have these guys who are fast

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Speaker 3: What would you do personnel wise because of you know,

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Speaker 7: Now, well, someone like Sam Williams, Now we know that

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Speaker 7: I mean, you have him at gunner on punts for

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Speaker 7: goodness sake, But that kind of body type would be

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Speaker 7: more useful. I think Sam athletically is a freak the

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Speaker 7: guys of that size can't run like that. But it's

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Speaker 7: really more of a scrimmage play, and that was part

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Speaker 7: of the deal. This is more of a scrimmage play

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Speaker 7: in terms of you're five yards away from your opponent,

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Speaker 7: so I think it can change. You're still going to

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Speaker 7: have your tied in your linebackers, but do you have.

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Speaker 4: You know are you are you going to.

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Speaker 7: Have like a Jalen Tolbert who plays gunner, but would

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Speaker 7: when there's only five yards apart. I think that the

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Speaker 7: implications for this are far more than making it an

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Speaker 7: exciting play and now we'll have seven, eight, nine, maybe

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Speaker 7: ten returns in a game. I think the implication reaches

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Speaker 3: One of the cons that I wrote down was it

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Speaker 3: would take away from onside kick opportunities when you're in

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Speaker 4: But they figured for that.

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Speaker 7: So if you want an on side kick, now you

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Speaker 7: have to declare it and you do it from back

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Speaker 7: at your own thirty Okay, So there aren't going to

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Speaker 7: be surprise on side kicks anymore, and so I think

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Speaker 7: that's a positive because the dangerous plays certainly kickoff returns

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Speaker 7: or you know, cause the long the way it previously

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Speaker 7: very they can be dangerous plays.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 7: You know, you're still going to have the same kind

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Speaker 7: same with that, except that it can't be a surprise

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Speaker 4: Can be more prepared for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it seems like the league is doing everything

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Speaker 4: Now some thoughts on good good.

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Speaker 2: Good about dang time, that's my thought on it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It was dangerous, and when you're talking about getting pulled

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Speaker 2: mean you're talking knees, ankles, hip injuries that just are

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of players don't like it,

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Speaker 6: this is another rule especially too. I think another rule

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Speaker 4: Like, I don't know how we played defense.

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Speaker 6: You can't hit nobody, you can't tackle on anyone, or

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Speaker 4: And it's interesting because I'm very.

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Speaker 4: You're just throwing your weight.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're just grabbing them and pulling them down.

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Speaker 7: Mark Andrews for the Baltimore Ring. I think it's a

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Speaker 6: I ain't even gonna hold you. And I don't know

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Speaker 4: He could have been out of that game. Then the

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Speaker 6: Right, and that's and I think that it probably knowing

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Speaker 6: I mean this is I think about even when Aaron

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Speaker 6: I just I'm I'm very up and down about.

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Speaker 4: It because I get it from a logical standpoint.

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Speaker 6: I hear the players though, but then I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm that's the kind of play though, that could

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Speaker 2: going to be interesting to see the discipline, especially in

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Speaker 4: The Lions.

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Speaker 2: Oh uh, look, am I wrong? Am I wrong? So

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Speaker 2: all I'm saying is, look, let's keep an eye on

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Speaker 4: Would you say?

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Speaker 7: Discipline and penalties part of it, the bigger part of

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Speaker 7: moving forward, is because of fines. So it's just like

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Speaker 7: you can be fined for these dangerous plays like the

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Speaker 7: You can appeal it, but basically later on down the line,

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Speaker 7: it's going to be deducted from your paycheck. That's why

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Speaker 7: it's going to change, and the players will adapt. They

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Speaker 7: The longtime cowboy fans know that's unofficially the Roy Williams rule.

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Speaker 4: We do you see horse callers sometimes?

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Speaker 6: Still?

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Speaker 7: Sure, unfortunately, but not like you did before. Do you

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Speaker 7: still see helmet to helmet shots unfortunately, yes, but nothing

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Speaker 7: like you saw before. It became not only a penalty

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Speaker 7: only is it going to be fifteen yards with a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So what does this do for these position coaches?

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Speaker 3: Because I should talk about it just being more discipline, technical,

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Speaker 6: You know this, Well, I'm curious about it because a

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Speaker 4: Nobody want to be highlight real baby. But I also.

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Speaker 6: Think it's I'm curious to find out how they're going

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Speaker 6: mostly positive, and that's why a lot of them are

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Speaker 4: Them back basically. So I obviously we don't know yet.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully, you know, maybe when we get a player on

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Speaker 6: we can ask, hey, what how is this going to change?

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Speaker 4: What techniques are they gonna teach these.

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Speaker 6: Guys because you can't tackle like you're taught to tackle.

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Speaker 4: You can't form tackle because.

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Speaker 6: If you form tackle, baby, you're gonna push people forward.

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Speaker 6: So it's like, I wonder, I don't I don't know

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Speaker 6: how it's gonna work. Maybe it's trying to push them

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Speaker 4: If you push them forward, they're gonna get several more young.

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Speaker 7: But then gonna get fifteen. Yeah, right, it's going to

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Speaker 4: Do you feel they might be tripping, they might start tripping?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, from what about guys for for example, like

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Speaker 4: What do you do about that as well?

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Speaker 3: That's no shade to the moon.

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Speaker 4: That was not shade. It's not meant to be.

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Speaker 6: But do you know, I mean, yeah, I don't, like,

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Speaker 4: Look like yet.

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Speaker 2: Probably tripping, like like you were mentioning, kind of going

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Speaker 2: But even then, I mean if you're if you're doing

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Speaker 2: As far as a wide receiver goes, you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: But it does, so it's gonna be interesting to see.

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Speaker 2: So I hope it doesn't go from hips to knees.

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Speaker 2: That's my biggest thing is I don't want to start

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Speaker 6: Think that's I think that's might be the only choice

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Speaker 6: They can't tackle them like we were talking about. They

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Speaker 2: Does it almost change the defensive formations that they're gonna

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Speaker 4: Now that's dangerous. That's too much room for them. I mean,

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Speaker 6: You can't reinvent the wheel, baby, like football can't become

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Speaker 6: and that's where I I that's where I get where

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Speaker 6: Like we literally were just trying to figure out we're

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Speaker 4: Now you're telling me I can't.

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Speaker 6: And then you also got to think, so, you guys

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Speaker 6: through arm tackling. They don't care about none of that.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's it is. It's a disadvantage to the defense.

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Speaker 6: It is it's fantasy the defense, and I understand their frustration.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. It's gonna be. It's

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Speaker 7: It's also one more thing for the officiating crew that

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Speaker 4: So and will it be.

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Speaker 5: What I what?

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it would be automatically reviewable. It

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Speaker 7: I hope that's a question have to to follow up on.

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Speaker 6: Find out it's gonna slow down the game so much

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Speaker 6: times I say out over just take a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I hope not.

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Speaker 3: Is there another rule that was changed, Chrissy that kind

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Speaker 4: Oh, I just think having a third challenge for.

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Speaker 7: A coach, if you if you get in the past,

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Speaker 4: If the first two are successful, then you get a third.

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Speaker 7: Now only one of them has to One of the

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Speaker 7: first two has to be successful and you're allowed a third.

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Speaker 7: So I think that that could could definitely gain to play.

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Speaker 4: We could have used that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what game it was that the Cowboys

443
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Speaker 6: played towards the end of the year, and he was like,

444
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Speaker 6: I felt like if Mike McCarthy would have challenged, you

445
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Speaker 6: would have won.

446
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Speaker 4: It was a spot they had. I don't know what

447
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Speaker 4: game it was, but they had a bad spot towards

448
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 4: the end. I don't know it was.

449
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Speaker 6: It was a it was a later game in the

450
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Speaker 6: in the season, and it was they got a bad

451
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Speaker 6: spot and we were in the spots was bad all

452
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Speaker 6: day and then but one of the spots was a

453
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Speaker 6: pivotal part in the game and it was like, dang,

454
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Speaker 6: I don't know which game it was, but anyway.

455
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Speaker 4: It's another one.

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Speaker 7: Just real quickly because I know, we got to go

457
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Speaker 7: to break. But now you know how sometimes you're watching

458
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Speaker 7: and you see the play clock clicking down right, and

459
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Speaker 7: it's like, did they get the snap off? And now

460
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Speaker 7: that is actually reviewable, so that cop could play, Yes,

461
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Speaker 7: that that could play a factor in a in a

462
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Speaker 7: game at some point this season. The back judge, there

463
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Speaker 7: are seven officials on the field. The back judge is

464
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Speaker 7: the one that's like literally third yards downfield behind the defense,

465
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Speaker 7: behind the safeties, and so he's surveying the whole field

466
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Speaker 7: in front of him. All twenty two players and six

467
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 7: other officials are in front of him, and so he's

468
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Speaker 7: looking at the play clock and so when he sees

469
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Speaker 7: it go down to zero, he glances back to see

470
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Speaker 7: if the ball has been snapped. And sometimes there's literally

471
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Speaker 7: as much time in between, you know, the clock going

472
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Speaker 7: down in the ball being snapped. Now, can it can

473
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Speaker 7: be reviewed in case the back judge didn't quite get

474
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Speaker 7: it right?

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Speaker 2: Real quick? Sorry, I was curious about Mike's challenge record

476
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Speaker 2: since he's been in Dallas. His total challenge record throughout

477
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Speaker 2: his coaching career, he's fifty one out of one oh three.

478
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Speaker 2: Since he's been in Dallas, he has challenged seven, eight, nine, ten,

479
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Speaker 2: ten challenges and he's won one, two, three, four, oh.

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Speaker 4: So forty percent in four seasons. He's only challenged ten times. Yep. Yeah,

481
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Speaker 4: and there's been times.

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Speaker 7: Where yep, and it looks like ouch more because now

483
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Speaker 7: you've got me. Yeah.

484
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Speaker 2: Anyway, I mean it's interesting his like, the most challenges

485
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Speaker 2: he had was in twenty twenty one, where he had

486
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Speaker 2: five and he only got two out of the five

487
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Speaker 2: that year. But last year he only had one challenge

488
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Speaker 2: and he was one for one, so technically one hundred percent.

489
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Speaker 2: We love that.

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Speaker 3: Alright, we're gonna take our first break of next we're

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Speaker 3: talking running bags. Could we see your reunion here?

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Speaker 4: I love it. Also, thank you, Chris.

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Speaker 7: The expiration the change in reviewing the end is game

529
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Speaker 7: clock and not play clock. So that has nothing to

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Speaker 7: do with the back judge watching the play so end

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Speaker 7: of games.

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Speaker 4: So thank you Chris for that correction on that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: Reports from Michael Gelkin from Dallas Morning News actually earlier, I.

536
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Speaker 4: Think that was Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: He said that there could be a reunion between Ezekiel

538
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Speaker 3: Elliott and the Dallas Cowboys. He asked in the owner's

539
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Speaker 3: meeting this week. Of course, Jerry and Steven. They did

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Speaker 3: not confirm or deny that report. What are y'all's thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Do y'all think that there could be? Would you all

542
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Speaker 3: like to see a reunion? I know Jess is over there.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked. That's where I'm at with it is, look,

544
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: just do something, just do something. We can't just look

545
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 2: the Cowboys can't continue to just sit here and lose

546
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: players and not fill the holes and the gaps that

547
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Speaker 2: are needed and expect to get better that way and

548
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Speaker 2: solely rely on the draft, Because that's a lot of

549
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Speaker 2: pressure to put on your draft class that. I'm sorry

550
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: last year's draft class didn't live up to expectations to

551
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Speaker 2: be plug and play players. It makes me a little

552
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Speaker 2: worried that that could be the case with some of

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Speaker 2: the players in this draft class. I'm not saying ah,

554
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Speaker 2: but that's a lot of pressure to put on a

555
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Speaker 2: first year player that's learning what it is to be

556
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. You have to give these first year

557
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: players grace no matter what your stance is. They can

558
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: be plug and play players, but they need grace in

559
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: the NFL to learn a new language, to understand a

560
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: new system, to understand what it is to be an

561
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Speaker 2: NFL player and an NFL player for the Dallas Cowboys

562
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: two different things here. So to bring a guy like

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Speaker 2: Zeke back, if they decide to do so, you're getting

564
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Speaker 2: a guaranteed guy that knows what it is to be here.

565
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Speaker 2: You're already paying cap space for him. You're already paying

566
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Speaker 2: him technically, you might as well use that money so

567
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Speaker 2: you don't have to pay anymore. It makes sense. I

568
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: know there was questions about his productivity and what he's

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Speaker 2: able to do. Still, look, it's Ezekiel Elliott. He's not

570
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Speaker 2: the Zeke we once knew. We knew that, but when

571
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Speaker 2: he was here, guess who was number one scoring in

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Speaker 2: the red zone. Ezekiel Elliot and the Dallas Cowboys. So

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Speaker 2: you can't tell me all that juice is taken out

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Speaker 2: of him. He was with the Patriots last year. Wasn't

575
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Speaker 2: his best year. Wasn't the Patriots last year wasn't Belichick's

576
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Speaker 2: best year either. But the point is is if you

577
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Speaker 2: can get a plug and play player that knows how

578
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Speaker 2: to come in, knows your system, knows your coach, the

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Speaker 2: locker room loves him, do it because you need to

580
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Speaker 2: do something to get better. And I think when you

581
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Speaker 2: have an Ezekiel Elliott in the locker room, you're a

582
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Speaker 2: better team because of it. And you guys know how

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Speaker 2: I feel about Zeke in the locker room. Great guy,

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Speaker 2: great leader, he can teach the younger guys. I mean,

585
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Speaker 2: he's willing to do what he needs to do, and

586
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Speaker 2: what more can you want? I'm off my sofa.

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Speaker 4: Two things from me.

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Speaker 6: There is some concern about what the running back room

589
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Speaker 6: looks like right now. Believe you have duce Vaughan Hunter Lifke,

590
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Speaker 6: who I thought showed some good flashes last year and

591
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Speaker 6: kind of showed maybe if he improves as that fullback

592
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Speaker 6: position that he can do some things also too. You

593
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Speaker 6: obviously brought back Regodaddle, But the book stops there, and

594
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Speaker 6: so to that point, es, I mean, experience and things

595
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Speaker 6: of that nature do play a role in there.

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Speaker 4: So technically it makes sense, but.

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Speaker 6: I also need the Cowboys to stop being that person

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Speaker 6: that we know from high school that can't let go

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Speaker 6: of the X.

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Speaker 4: I I'm just I'm just.

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Speaker 6: Ready like to figure out what's next. Most teams are

602
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Speaker 6: going younger, Most teams are kind of trending in a

603
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Speaker 6: different direction as far as what the running back position

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Speaker 6: even looks like. Because even if you look at this draft,

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Speaker 6: there's only like three guys that I consider thumpers.

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Speaker 4: And when Zeke came out, that's what people were looking for.

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Speaker 6: They were looking for a ground and pound, and a

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00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 6: lot of these guys now are.

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Speaker 4: A little bit more shifty. You can do some things

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Speaker 4: in the receiving game.

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Speaker 6: You still need to be able to help out in

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Speaker 6: pass pro things like that. But I'm on the fence

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Speaker 6: about it because like to your point, yeah, this running

614
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Speaker 6: back room is a little scarce right now as far

615
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Speaker 6: as experience goes and things like that.

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Speaker 4: But I'm also like.

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Speaker 6: Don't go in the opposite direction because most teams are

618
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Speaker 6: not going in the opposite direction. They're trying to get younger, faster,

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Speaker 6: and more elusive from a passing game perspective as well.

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Speaker 4: So that's how I feel about it, and it's not

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Speaker 4: it's not an either or thing.

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Speaker 7: You know, if Zeke comes back, like you say, it's

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Speaker 7: obviously not to be the featured guy. And so I

624
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Speaker 7: think that his coming back depends on who which running.

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Speaker 4: Back they draft. I think there's no question that they're

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Speaker 4: going to draft.

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Speaker 6: Running shown interest in quite a few running backs through

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Speaker 6: the combine process and stuff like that, and.

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Speaker 4: So Zeke would be a great complimentary back.

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Speaker 7: You know, if if you don't get one of the thumpers,

631
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Speaker 7: if you don't get in guy who can run inside

632
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Speaker 7: and be a short gardage.

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Speaker 4: He's cheap, maybe bring them.

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Speaker 6: And because again you don't have any like Deuce was

635
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Speaker 6: an active a lot which was annoying, but he was

636
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Speaker 6: an active a lot. We've talked about the run game

637
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Speaker 6: and just schematically what it was either too. I mean

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Speaker 6: you also got to think about it for a guy

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Speaker 6: like Zeke to come man, unless he's just doing goal

640
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 6: line things. We don't know what this offensive line is

641
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Speaker 6: going to be like also too going into next season,

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Speaker 6: So that also plays a role to me. And what

643
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 6: type of running back you're looking for. Do you want

644
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 6: a guy that can see it and just go because

645
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 6: maybe that hole is not super big with or it's

646
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 6: not open up quick quick enough with this offensive line.

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Speaker 6: It's there's a lot of factors that play into it.

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Speaker 4: But I will.

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Speaker 6: Concede that it would make sense given that they have

650
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Speaker 6: not touched free agency. Really, I don't really know how

651
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: many running backs in free agency are left.

652
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Speaker 4: Because Cordel Patterson was.

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Speaker 6: Someone I was like, y'all, please, he gonna cost like

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Speaker 6: five dollars.

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Speaker 4: Just bring them in.

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Speaker 6: Here and help with your return game, be a veteran

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Speaker 6: whatever the case may be. But I mean, yeah, he's

658
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 6: he's he probably the best option right now.

659
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Speaker 2: I think at this point though, in order for them

660
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Speaker 2: not to be at the high school, what what did

661
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: you how'd you hype X? They missed that boat. It's

662
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: too late in free agency now to not be that

663
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: anymore because you had options available and you didn't have

664
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Speaker 2: the I mean to get like a splash running back then,

665
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 2: Josh Jacob, if you wanted to be all in and

666
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Speaker 2: not be the high school ex girlfriend, like the big

667
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: names are gone already.

668
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you heard him.

669
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Speaker 4: You could have had the Giants X. You could have

670
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: had the Raiders X. We started on it.

671
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Speaker 7: Yeah, from from from a money standpoint, just so you know,

672
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 7: last year Zeke. Of course, the Cowboys were paying him

673
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 7: dead cap space last year too, but when he signed

674
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Speaker 7: as a free agent with the Patriots last year, he

675
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 7: signed a one year, three million dollar deal. Okay, And

676
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 7: as for you mentioned, we're you're paying him again this year.

677
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 7: So he counts a six point four million against the

678
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 7: Cowboys app so he's and then right behind him at

679
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 7: six million is Tyron Smith.

680
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Speaker 2: You might as well just put that money to use.

681
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, we look, but you would. You'd have to.

682
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: Pay him on top of that, but at least you're

683
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: paying him to play for you and not another team,

684
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: Like it's you're stuff to pay him on top of that.

685
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, and if you're talking about offensive

686
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: line that it might be struggling because we don't know

687
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: what it looks like. You know, Zeke can block. You

688
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: know he can block, and you.

689
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Speaker 7: Don't know if your rookie running back can Yeah, if

690
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 7: he's playing.

691
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Speaker 4: A lot, Yeah, because Tony, Tony stepped up a lot.

692
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And as much as people don't want to give

693
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: him credit, MG MG was blocking his tail off this

694
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: last season, he's not here anymore. So again, you have

695
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: holes that you need to fill in terms of blocking.

696
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 2: It stems from the offensive line, but there's more parts

697
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: to it. You know, Zeke can do that too, so

698
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: it I don't love the idea of like going back

699
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: to your past. I agree with you, but at this point,

700
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: like the situation you're in, you kind of have to

701
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: either do that. You can go with the del and

702
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: Cook who also has experienced, but you need something. You

703
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: can't just sit here and wait for for something to happen.

704
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: It has to something has to happen.

705
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 4: They have to go out and do something. I have

706
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 4: a question.

707
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Speaker 3: As of as of today, Rico o'doddell is running back

708
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: one as of today, If the season were to start today,

709
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 3: Do y'all have faith that Rico could be that feature back?

710
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 4: Honestly? I mean no, there, They're gonna draft a running.

711
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: I mean I know that, but I want to know

712
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 3: if we have confidence in ric o'doddle that he could

713
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Speaker 3: be a future back.

714
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 7: I as a person and skill set, I like him,

715
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 7: but he has an injury history, so you have to

716
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 7: I'm looking at it holistically, and so you it's just

717
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 7: like almost like a Leyton Vanderesh should be great if

718
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 7: he decided to come back, but even if he wanted to,

719
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 7: you couldn't count on him to get through the season.

720
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Speaker 7: So I'm sorry to if that sounds harsh, but you

721
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 7: think you have to look at the look at the

722
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 7: whole deal and and and as much as I love

723
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 7: Rico when I do, but he has an injury history.

724
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Speaker 2: I think he wants it, and I think he's He's

725
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: worked extremely hard to be where he is. He there's

726
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: a lot of players that would have given up after

727
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: year of year and year of injury taking him out

728
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: of the game, and there's a reason the Cowboys have

729
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: kept him around this long. When he is healthy, Yes,

730
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: I absolutely believe he could be the featured back last

731
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: year he was dealing with the nagging ankle injury, which

732
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: isn't a reoccurring injury. The reoccurring injury that has been

733
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: happening in the past was his hip, so that wasn't

734
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: bothering him last season. I talked to him a lot

735
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: about his health and kind of what he was doing

736
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: in order to stay healthy, and it was they just

737
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: like we talked about Tyrone Smith, how they kind of

738
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: changed his, uh, his practice schedule and and his rehabbing

739
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: and his and all of that same thing. For Rico,

740
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: they had to kind of adjust what he was doing

741
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: in order to stay healthy. And for the most part,

742
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: I mean that nagging hip injury didn't come back last season,

743
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: so it was the ankle injury that you could see

744
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: got dug into Oh goodness what. I don't remember what

745
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: week it was, but you could see it happen, and

746
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: that was kind of what was happening. He was still

747
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: playing on it though, So again I think when he's healthy, yes,

748
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: but also you haven't seen enough of him. You saw something,

749
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 2: You saw more of him last season than you've seen,

750
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: but that wasn't enough to really know. So training camp's

751
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: gonna be real fun no matter what happens, and he's

752
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: somebody that I really I want to see how he

753
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: does now going forward.

754
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Speaker 4: This is his opportunity now or never. Yes, that's pretty

755
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 4: much all I got about that.

756
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 7: And you know we should also mentioned Malik Davis because

757
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 7: he would step up into kind.

758
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 4: Of the Rico role if Rico were were first.

759
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 7: And then the other thing is, I think we're going

760
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 7: to see more and more of Hunter Lipkey. We we

761
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 7: saw we saw the way that McCarthy used the kune

762
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 7: and the fullbacks you know, always in Green Bay. You know,

763
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 7: it seemed like he was a guy that you could

764
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 7: always count on to make a play kune and so

765
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 7: you know, you could see that for lip Key moving forward,

766
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 7: and he could he could be your short yardage guy too.

767
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 7: But he's more of a traditional fullback.

768
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Speaker 6: Then well I mean, honestly, well I would actually push

769
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 6: back on that, like Hunter is a running.

770
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Speaker 7: Well running back or the other thing is we didn't

771
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 7: see him a lot. I think we're gonna see him

772
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 7: more this year. Part of a passing game, absolutely.

773
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 6: He can do some things in a passing game. He

774
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 6: can do some things in short yardage situations. I thought

775
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 6: that his blocking and the angles he took and his

776
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 6: vision improved as.

777
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: The year went on. Yeah, I agree.

778
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 6: I think Hunter Lipkey is gonna definitely take a tick

779
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 6: up this year in his usage and also too, if

780
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 6: you look at some of the better teams, having a

781
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 6: fullback is a valuable thing when you talk about how

782
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 6: light some of these linebackers defensive line and those guys

783
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 6: are starting to get if you have a guy that

784
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 6: can get to the second level, then that can open

785
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 6: up some big plays. And I thought that he was

786
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 6: a good addition to the team last year, just kind

787
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 6: of getting his feet wet.

788
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: Definitely expect for him to have a tickup this year,

789
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: and it might tell us if.

790
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 6: They don't, like honestly, if they don't go take a zeke,

791
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 6: if they don't go grab anyone else, it might tell

792
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 6: you that, yeah, they're reserving that role for him and

793
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 6: they're just gonna go draft another guy.

794
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: I feel like they kind of were doing that until

795
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: the fumble, I believe in Week sixteen, which after you

796
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: look back at it, it wasn't just on him, it was

797
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: also the handoff for communication mahoes there, and so I

798
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: think at that point they kind of took a step

799
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: back and they scaled back, but they were giving him

800
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: more and more leeway up until that point. They were

801
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: using him at the goal line a lot more so.

802
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: To your point, I really think that's something that now,

803
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: with his first year under his belt, he was an

804
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: undrafted free agent who had really no expectations coming in here,

805
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: he absolutely deserves his second year to get more opportunity

806
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,560
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Speaker 4: So amen. I have dogs in a cat so amen.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't neither my husband says, we're gonna we'll

864
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Speaker 7: get a dog.

865
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Speaker 4: If I can remember to feed it, then we'll consider

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Speaker 4: having child.

867
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Speaker 2: Wow, you can you can take I have I have

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Speaker 2: plenty of two dogs and a cat, so you can

869
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Speaker 7: I actually do have a dog, Abby Bear, named after

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Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys cheerleader.

875
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 4: The Little Stuffed My Abby Bear.

876
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 7: It's a stuffed animal and it's kind of the m

877
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 7: v P that you get so the d c C

878
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 7: each week a different person. It's the Above and Beyond

879
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 7: a B B E Y. So those of you that

880
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 7: have seen or have one of those d c C

881
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 7: Abby Teddy Bears that you get from the pro Shop.

882
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: It's for the Above and Beyond award the Abby Bear.

883
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: I got a dog.

884
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: She's a monster.

885
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: Your dog's a monster, Jazz, Yes, yes, a monster.

886
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: I don't believe that she's six months years old. She's

887
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 4: a monster.

888
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: High energy, puppy, puppy energy and what's her name?

889
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: All right?

890
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: Real quick, ladies, we knew that coming into a free

891
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: agency obviously that you know the Cowboys would have had

892
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: the choice between Jordan Lewis and Stefan Gilmour, picking one

893
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: of those guys to stay here with Dallas.

894
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: Of course they.

895
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: Resigned Jordan, but now still no word on Stefan Gilmour

896
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: and whether or not he'll be returning. But I know

897
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 3: Stephen Jones did somewhat address that room a little bit.

898
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 3: He didn't say whether or not they will.

899
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: Be bringing him back or not.

900
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: What a is y'all's thoughts on whether or not what

901
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: you'll be missing from what Gilly Gilly brought to that.

902
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: Room, leadership and veteran experience he was. He was the

903
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: reason that your secondary stood a chance after Trayvon Diggs

904
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: went out so early in the season. And that's no

905
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: shade to anybody in that room. Jlu admitted how long

906
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: it took for him to reacclimate after his foot injury

907
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: and just kind of no pun intended seriously get his

908
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: footing back in because it's hard to do when, especially

909
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: with a foot injury, your muscle memory comes back in.

910
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: It was hard for him and he talked a lot

911
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: about that. But somebody likes Stefan Gilmore can come in

912
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 2: be a plug and play player and an impact maker.

913
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: So you have your plug and play players that are

914
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: going to come in. You're going to play, but you

915
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: have an impact maker and a difference maker. To have

916
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: both of those in one player is special and Stefan

917
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: Gilmore is that player. So I think that's what he

918
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: brought more than anything. But yeah, Steven's comments didn't make

919
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: me optimistic. So we'll see what happens, but I'm not

920
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: very optimistic that you'll see him wearing a star again.

921
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean from a depth standpoint.

922
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 6: I mean we've talked about it even on the Draft show.

923
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 6: Is that you know, Corner might be something that they

924
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 6: need to look at because you know, I think you

925
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 6: still have Noron Bland. Obviously Trayvon Diggs is locked up,

926
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 6: but behind that, most of those guys are like one

927
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 6: two years away from not being on this team anymore.

928
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 6: And then when you look at even the guy like

929
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 6: Eric Scott that they drafted late last year. Unfortunately, he

930
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 6: was a guy that Dan Quinn drafted. And when you

931
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 6: have a new coach come in a lot of the

932
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: time they have different visions they want to have their guys.

933
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 6: So it also puts some of these young guys that

934
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 6: are down the roster at the position in a place

935
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 6: to where they're going to have to show what they're

936
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 6: made of and see if they.

937
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: Appeal to the new coach and what he's able to do.

938
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 6: Now, I will say, with Trayvon Diggs coming back from

939
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 6: an ACL, I don't have the expectation that he's gonna

940
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 6: just automatically, very quickly be that Trayvon.

941
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: That we expect.

942
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 6: I know, he did get injured early in the season,

943
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 6: so he may be a little bit more ahead. But

944
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 6: I just the Stefan Gilmore thing was also insurance in

945
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 6: a way that I think is a luxury in the

946
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 6: NFL to have him, someone like him, to his caliber

947
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 6: as insurance so toughest nails to play with the rotator

948
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 6: cuff injury through a playoff game.

949
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: Yep.

950
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 4: A little crazy honestly too.

951
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 6: I mean, but it's sad to see him go because,

952
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 6: I mean just some of the conversations I got to

953
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 6: have with him. He's such a teacher and he'll teach

954
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 6: you without even realizing it's just in conversation. So to

955
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 6: your point, Jess, I think that this locker room's going

956
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 6: to miss him. I think this young locker room, a

957
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 6: lot of those young guys in the secondary are going

958
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 6: to miss him because Trayvon even mentioned that he's been

959
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 6: mentoring him since he came into the league, so they're.

960
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 4: Connected at the hip anyway.

961
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 6: So yeah, it is what it is. You're gon't have

962
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 6: to figure it out at this point.

963
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: So it's also so disappointing knowing you didn't get to

964
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: see a lot of Trey and Gilly on the field

965
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: together because it was just so exciting the thought of

966
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: seeing both of them in the backfield, just man two ballhawks.

967
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, youth has to step up at some point,

968
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 2: take what he taught them and go from there.

969
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 7: He was ten point nine to eight million Gilmour against

970
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 7: the cap last year, and they just they they can't

971
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 7: afford that the way that they're managing the cap now

972
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 7: and the way they're trying to apply their resources and

973
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 7: set up the cap not just for this year but

974
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 7: future years.

975
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Speaker 4: So he's unfortunate and all that.

976
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 7: But but you miss him on the field too, and

977
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 7: not just all the pro stuff, because there were a

978
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 7: couple of games at the end of last year where

979
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 7: they they had their top the Cowboys had their top

980
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 7: cornerback travel basically go man to man with the top

981
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 7: receiver for the other team instead of just playing all

982
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 7: that bad game and Metcalf and so when they traveled

983
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 7: the player towards the end of last year, it was

984
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 7: not Drawn Bland, it was Gilmore.

985
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 4: I mean just the way he stepped up in that

986
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 4: that Seahawks game, see that fire and him.

987
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 7: That was again, just to remind everyone, Metcalf kind of

988
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 7: trash talked Gilly early in that game, and Gilly like, yeah,

989
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 7: called him Oldah called him old, and then who's old?

990
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: Nelly shut him down, Gilly.

991
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 3: And you're getting a guy, like like all of y'all said,

992
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: but you're getting a guy whose durability is off this roof.

993
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: I know he got injured before the playoff game and

994
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: still played through it, but I mean for a guy

995
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 3: his age, what.

996
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 4: Is he like thirty something? I think he's thirty three. Yeah,

997
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: I mean you're getting a durable guy.

998
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 6: And the tackling girl. Because that's one thing about Gilly.

999
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 6: When they first signed him, I looked back at his

1000
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 6: film the year before, and yeah, I'm impressed with the coverage,

1001
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 6: but I'm also just impressed.

1002
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 4: If he's not a huge guy. We've seen him in person.

1003
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 6: He's not a huge guy, but his willingness to tackle.

1004
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 6: It also sexy example for those young guys that, hey man,

1005
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 6: you can be great in coverage if you want to,

1006
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 6: but if you're not gonna tackle nobody coming off this edge,

1007
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 6: then what are we talking about here? He really shut

1008
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 6: He's such a total cornerback and you just don't get

1009
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 6: to see that in this league that often.

1010
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna miss him, but we understand what's going on.

1011
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: He takes care of his body too, to your point, Nicle,

1012
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: because I remember during training camp, Trey was talking about

1013
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: how he was eating like I think a bag of

1014
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: candy or something, and Gilly was like, what are you

1015
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: eating that for? And Trey was like okay, Like he

1016
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: kind of was showing the guys how to take care

1017
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: of their body. So we'll see.

1018
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: Definitely a guy will hopefully hopefully comes back, but if not,

1019
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: we understand.

1020
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: Like Aisha said, that's a rap.

1021
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: For today's episode of Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by

1022
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Speaker 3: Jig Saw, the prefer dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys.

1023
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Speaker 4: We'll see y'all next week.

1024
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Speaker 7: Hi.

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1026
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