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Speaker 1: great show for you today. We're gonna do a deep

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Speaker 1: dive rather than the main the normal headlines, we do

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Speaker 1: deep dive tonight on how President Trump's energy agenda is

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Speaker 1: going to take shape and also how that agenda actually

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Speaker 1: affects every other thing downstream from national security, economic security,

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Speaker 1: fighting inflation. The president all through the campaign and including

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Speaker 1: it is acceptance speech last Tuesday Night made clear that

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Speaker 1: you start with energy and everything else falls into place

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Speaker 1: behind it. Over the next hour, we're going to look

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Speaker 1: at all of those different pieces, how they fit together,

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Speaker 1: what surprises Trump second administration may have. But before we

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Speaker 1: get to all of that, let me turn to my

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Speaker 1: amazing co host, Amanda head First, some headlines. Amanda, how

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Speaker 1: are you today?

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Speaker 2: Yes, boy, you know, this is my first time back

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Speaker 2: in my studio since before the election, So it's bring

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Speaker 2: things into perspective.

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Speaker 3: Great week.

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Speaker 2: We're starting off here, all right, So, as you said,

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Speaker 2: we are taking a deep dive into President Trump's energy

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Speaker 2: agenda this hour, but we're also going to talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit about how Democrats are already trying to word it.

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Speaker 2: They are already laying the ground work for this. First,

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Speaker 2: the media is getting involved. THENNS Climate firstpondent Bill Ware

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Speaker 2: is already extremely concerned about what a second Trump presidency

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Speaker 2: is going to do to the planet. So let's save

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Speaker 2: this clip that we're about to play, and then we're

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Speaker 2: going to play it back in four years and see

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Speaker 2: if what he says actually comes the path.

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Speaker 1: Take a look.

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Speaker 4: President elect Donald Trump is a known climate denier, vowing

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Speaker 4: to pull the US out of the Paris Climate Accord

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Speaker 4: a second time. His election comes on the heels of

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Speaker 4: startling new data showing the worsening effects of delaying action.

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Speaker 5: This year, twenty twenty four, according to Copernicus, the European

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Speaker 5: Space Unit will shatter all records, being the warmest ever.

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Speaker 5: And it's the first year where we've blown past the

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Speaker 5: one point five degrees celsius or three degrees fahrenheit limit

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Speaker 5: of of the Paris Climate Accords.

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Speaker 6: Every country in the world says we're going to try

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Speaker 6: to hold the line at one point five And now

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Speaker 6: we're here, just as maybe the most notorious climate denier

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Speaker 2: Once again, very very unbiased reporting from CNN.

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Speaker 3: But if you can believe it, it.

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Speaker 2: Actually gets worse from there, because where was on another

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Speaker 2: CNN show where he said, yes.

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Speaker 3: Bill, twenty twenty four will be the first calendar year

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Speaker 3: to exceed the Paris Agreement threshold. What does it mean

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Speaker 6: Well, that line at one point five degrees celsius to

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Speaker 6: three degrees fahrenheit was the idea that anything beyond that

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Speaker 6: would just be so hard to adapt and to do

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Speaker 6: it in time. Once we hit two percent. If you

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Speaker 6: think things are bad, now imagine the hell on Earth.

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Speaker 6: That would be three degrees of global warming. Well, Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump is basically saying, go to hell, go to that hell,

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Speaker 6: because he doesn't want to even acknowledge the existence of

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Speaker 2: Again, let's save that clip and revisit in four years

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Speaker 2: to see if we are actually experiencing hell on Earth

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Speaker 2: after president from second term. Something tells me that that's not

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Speaker 2: the Ewen's Climate Summit Top twenty nine started on Monday

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Speaker 2: of this week, and Biden Administration climate diplomat John Podesta

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Speaker 7: Last Week's out come in the United States is obviously

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Speaker 7: bitterly disappointing, particularly because of the unprecedented resources and ambition

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Speaker 7: In January, We're going to inaugurate a president whose relationship

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Speaker 7: once again withdraw the United States from the Paris Agreement.

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Speaker 8: That is what he has said, and.

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Speaker 1: We should believe him.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like we are going to be hearing a lot

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Speaker 2: about the supposed negative consequences of President Trump's energy policies

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Speaker 2: these next four years. So let's make sure that we

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Speaker 2: hold on to hold these people to their word and

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Speaker 2: check back to see just how catastrophic or not the

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Speaker 2: President's energy policies burn out to be. John, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to hand it back to you so that we can

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Speaker 2: get to our first guests of the evening and have

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Speaker 2: all of these conversations about energy.

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Speaker 1: I'm always amused when I hear about the Paris Climate Accords.

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Speaker 1: Because one hundred and ninety four countries signed it, everybody

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Speaker 1: went in on it. It didn't have any effect. Why

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Speaker 1: because if you left trying to blow all that coal

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Speaker 1: up into the air, what do you think is going

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Speaker 1: to happen? By the way, under President Trump, carbon emissions

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Speaker 1: actually went down even as energy expansion went up and

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Speaker 1: gas prices went down. So we actually had affordable energy

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Speaker 1: that was cleaner. Stick that into the Paris Climate Accords.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that might work in the future, But I just

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Speaker 1: get it. I'm always amazed by it because the record

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Speaker 1: of the Paris Climb in accord is everybody was in

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Speaker 1: that's why we dropped.

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Speaker 2: Out the first time. It's just the name, that's right.

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Speaker 1: It's an opportunity to get together in nice locations and

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Speaker 1: have a conference. That's what it's really about. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, listen, we need a dose of good, good

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Speaker 1: common sense after watching those three clips, and why not

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Speaker 1: start with one who one member of form or one

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Speaker 1: former member of Congress who, oh we gave us? And

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Speaker 1: since he was the ranking member of the Hosteduciary Committee

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Speaker 1: today he has one of the most popular one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite podcasts named right after him. He is our

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Speaker 1: good friend former Congressman Doug Collins. Congressman. Good to have

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Speaker 1: you back on the show. Great to be with y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'm always amused by the left and its climate scare

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Speaker 1: Isn't the accord itself of self realization of failure?

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Speaker 9: It is what always amazes me about what about the

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Speaker 9: folks in the climate, especially the Democratic Party is also

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Speaker 9: they seem to have amnesia for the last almost four years.

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Speaker 9: Joe Biden and Vice President Harris. You know, it didn't

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Speaker 9: work for the election. It doesn't work for anything else.

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Speaker 9: Amnesia doesn't work when you've been in control of the climate.

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Speaker 9: You put us into every crazy thing, you passed New

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Speaker 9: Green Deal. You've done all these things, and yet it

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Speaker 9: went up on your watch, not Trump's watch, over the

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Speaker 9: past three years. Did we forget that?

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Speaker 1: Did y'all not doing something?

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Speaker 9: And also in interesting John and they always seem to

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Speaker 9: I saw was there. Why don't they just do this

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Speaker 9: in one of the conference rooms in New York? I mean,

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Speaker 9: save people money. The people are already there, do it

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Speaker 9: right there. No, they would rather fire up the jets,

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Speaker 9: the private jets and everything else and go to a

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Speaker 9: place like Iserba Jean and do their comic codes there. Look,

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Speaker 9: this is just you know, Look, there is a climate

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Speaker 9: issues that we deal with. We deal with in common

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Speaker 9: sense ways. We realize that America, if we stop producing tomorrow,

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Speaker 9: does not bring into line these global requirements of this

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Speaker 9: quote Paris Agreement. These are the kind of things we

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Speaker 9: have to realize that you can't let China and third

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Speaker 9: basically the American economy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point, absolutely, Congressman. I feel like

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Speaker 2: it would it would pour heaping coals on Democrats' heads

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Speaker 2: if President Trump was able to do what they have

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Speaker 2: been trying to do with respect to carbon emissions. And

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Speaker 2: as we were just talking about, no matter how much

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Speaker 3: So until we do.

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Speaker 2: Something about that, nothing can happen. Now we know President

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Speaker 2: Trump's abilities in deal making and pressuring countries to do

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Speaker 2: President Trump do with respect to China that could bring

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Speaker 2: down the carbon emissions and then by the end of

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Speaker 2: me who did it, not your green energy plan.

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Speaker 9: I think let's let's first start off with what we

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Speaker 9: and we're you know, sitting on just massive amounts. Let's

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Speaker 9: issues that we can look at. But I will not

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Speaker 9: take the left seriously on climate change until we embrace

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Speaker 9: new period, until we embrace things like hydrogen fuel, nuclear energy,

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Speaker 9: those kind of things. I don't take them as seriously

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Speaker 9: unseerious about what they're doing, and they only want to

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Speaker 9: continue to lead us down a path of wind and

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Speaker 9: sower and things that frankly just do not have the

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Speaker 1: Can you think about.

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Speaker 9: How they would try to do that with data but

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Speaker 9: a lot of hours. They don't know what they're talking about,

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Speaker 9: and if they're not willing to embrace the nuclear options

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Speaker 9: them as basically they're climate denying in a different way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. Nuclear post natural gas would

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Speaker 1: bring down carbon emissions and make energy more plintifle, far quicker,

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Speaker 1: and far less expensively than the way that the Biden

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Speaker 1: key appointment in the last twenty four hours. Leez Elden,

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Speaker 1: former Congressman from New York, former colleague of yours. I

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Speaker 1: think you guys work together and debunking some of the

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Speaker 1: Russia coclusion stuff. Him being at the EPA, a place

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Speaker 1: where it's the holy grail of the green environmental movement,

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Speaker 1: although it often is really just a tripping point for

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Speaker 9: Well, I think maybe, you know, start off by doing

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Speaker 1: I want to introduce you to a man who's revolutionizing

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Just the News and No Noise everybody. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: we are taking a closer look at America's energy policy.

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Speaker 2: Now the President Trump has won a second term in

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Speaker 2: the president and CEO of Voltagrid, Nathan Oh. Nathan, thanks

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Speaker 8: Appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me guyus.

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Speaker 2: I mean when we talk about innovation, volta Grid is

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, happy to tell the story.

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Speaker 11: We started the company back kind of in Q one,

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Speaker 1: It is stunning. It's remarkable, and I think a lot

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Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely appreciate the opportunity. And so if you think

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Speaker 1: I have bumped into people in the last few weeks.

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Speaker 11: Well, I have a great garage and it definitely started there.

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Speaker 11: back into the US. We've got two very large assembly facilities,

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Speaker 11: one in Houston, one in Dallas. That that look, we've

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Speaker 11: we've put the pieces the puzzle together and and the

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Speaker 11: customers there, you know, And I think just it's on

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Speaker 11: almost like going back to the basics. And I think

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Speaker 11: the world gets so caught up and going in five

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Speaker 11: different directions. But if you pull things back and design

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Speaker 11: a structure that works, American Inc. Is behind you and

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Speaker 11: and and and it's it's go time, Like we are

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Speaker 11: going to ride this as hard as we can go.

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Speaker 8: H and our and and we're not going to look back.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, awesome, amazing story.

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Speaker 2: Nathan, we kind of touched on this a moment ago,

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Speaker 2: but I kind of want to get into the nitty

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Speaker 2: gritty as we have seen these recent hurricanes across the southeast,

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Speaker 2: the American people, America Inc. As you were just talking about,

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Speaker 2: left right center. I think everyone has been collectively horrified

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Speaker 2: at how slow and inadequate the response was by our

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Speaker 2: federal agencies. You guys, I want to get into the

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Speaker 2: nitty gritty of your disaster response because you guys have

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Speaker 2: the ability to get in there, to move your your

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Speaker 2: equipment in there and boom, people have power right away.

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Speaker 10: Can you talk about it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Look, we're we're a big player in the demand

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Speaker 11: response market for for hurricanes. We've got a large facility

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Speaker 11: in Homa, Louisiana plays a very key role in hurricane response.

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Speaker 11: As we all know, the Homer region took a direct

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Speaker 11: hit from a hurricane this year. In our power facility,

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Speaker 11: there is a twenty five maguwat facility played a very

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Speaker 11: instrumental role in energizing the city far in advance of

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Speaker 11: what a grid repair project would would would implement. And

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Speaker 11: so I think you're going to see that success story.

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Speaker 11: That's our first site. You're going to see that success

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Speaker 11: story start rolling out right across the lower part of

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Speaker 11: the US and probably up the coast, and look, couldn't

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Speaker 11: be happy to do it. Our government partners have been fantastic,

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Speaker 11: the local community has been fantastic, and you just wait

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Speaker 11: to see there is a lot of good American made

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Speaker 11: product that's going to start hitting the shelf here very

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Speaker 11: soon in the demand response market.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty down amazing, going to be a revolution in

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Speaker 1: the energy industry that a lot of people thought might

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Speaker 1: take a decade or two decades to get started. It's

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Speaker 1: going to take days and weeks and months now. That's

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Speaker 1: one thing I care about the outdoors. I'm an outdoors man,

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Speaker 1: I care about conservation. VOLTA grid also has created a

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Speaker 1: lot of impressed a lot of people by being able

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Speaker 1: to cut admissions even as you're putting up one of

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Speaker 1: these rapid power generation plants and mini grids. Tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about how you achieve emissions reductions even

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Speaker 1: while rapidly building something like this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely.

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Speaker 11: Look, I think as the world looked a lot towards

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Speaker 11: solar and wind as potential power sources, and I think

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Speaker 11: all renewables play a role. You know, I talk more

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Speaker 11: about energy addition than I talk about energy transition. And

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Speaker 11: so one of the things we focused a ton on

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Speaker 11: is admitting that we will admit, but solving for the

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Speaker 11: emissions that are coming off.

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Speaker 8: And so we've done a.

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Speaker 11: Ton of work on air scrubbers and kind of air

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Speaker 11: mitigation to get ourselves to be one of the lowest carbon,

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Speaker 11: you know, dispatchable resources out there. So, just to give

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Speaker 11: you Approxy, you an example for you know, the line's

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Speaker 11: share of our omittance. We're reducing that anywhere from ninety

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Speaker 11: five to ninety nine percent right across the board, and

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Speaker 11: you're seeing that show up in our permitting process, where

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Speaker 11: we've reduced a typical two to three hundred Maguat power plant.

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Speaker 11: We've reduced that that permiting process from three to four years.

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Speaker 11: We just got to site permitted in Texas in twenty

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Speaker 11: one days, which which is which is fundamentally breaking people's

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Speaker 11: thought process of how the market is going to play up.

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Speaker 11: You think about a two water meg power plants, enough

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Speaker 11: for a city of one hundred and fifty thousand people.

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Speaker 11: We did it in twenty one days.

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Speaker 8: That is stunning, incredible.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love the innovation, I love the technology. America, pac baby.

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Speaker 1: You do have fun. That's what I learned about you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, incredible, incredible. Nathan No, President and CEO of Voltagrid,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us, and I love

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Speaker 2: what you guys are doing.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, coming up after the break, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: explain how President Trump's energy agenda can help the environment

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: two Patriot. Welcome back in America. There's an energy revolution

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Speaker 1: that's going to take place in When President Trump says

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Speaker 1: Joel baby, Jill, you know what he means. But also

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Speaker 1: when you study the first Trump administration. There was a

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Speaker 1: great phenomenon. Carbon emissions went down under President Trump, and

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Speaker 1: he has made clear that he can achieve that continue

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Speaker 1: to bring carbon emissions down without harming the economy, a

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Speaker 1: combination of natural gas, nuclear other things, potentially creating an

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Speaker 1: extraordinary marriage for Americans in this country. Our next gast

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Speaker 1: has been on the forefront of this debate for a

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Speaker 1: long time. He's the president of the American Conservation Coalition.

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Speaker 1: He's also the author one of my favorite books, The

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Speaker 1: Conservative Environmentalist. He's our good friend, Benji Backer. Benji, good

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Speaker 1: to have you back on.

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Speaker 3: It is great to be here, especially after a successful week,

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Speaker 3: and excited to talk about the future of American energy.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to believe it was a week ago. Already

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Speaker 1: goes by so fast. This is going to be an

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Speaker 1: extraordinary moment because everything in this world is going to

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Speaker 1: touch energy, and if President Trump gets it right, it

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Speaker 1: has a downstream effect on almost every aspect of our lives.

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Speaker 1: You saw some things in there the debate in heading

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Speaker 1: into the final weeks of the election, and gave us

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Speaker 1: some clues about President Trump's ability to make energy more affordable,

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Speaker 1: more abundant, but also continue to make it cleaner. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean Donald Trump has an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: do with what Richard Nixon did as well, which is

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Speaker 3: cemented legacy as one of the best environmental presidents in

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Speaker 3: US history. He's got four years to do it. And

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Speaker 3: one of the things that he really can do here

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Speaker 3: is is meet the growing demand for energy that we

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Speaker 3: have in this country and around the world with American

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Speaker 3: energy of all sources. You know, I'm a big believer

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Speaker 3: that we shouldn't be picking winners and losers. There's pros

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Speaker 3: and cons to every single energy source and pretty much

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Speaker 3: every decision we make in general in life, and we

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Speaker 3: need to have an energy renaissance in America that is

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Speaker 3: focused on a diverse set of energy sources. Oil and

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Speaker 3: gas is cleaner here in the United States than anywhere

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Speaker 3: else in the world. Nuclear is obviously a very important

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Speaker 3: part of it as well, that the Democrats really didn't

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Speaker 3: propose support recently. Also have the importance of accommodation of wind, solar, geothermal,

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Speaker 3: hydropower as backup you know, secondary energy sources and taking

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Speaker 3: that power away from China, which dominates pretty much the

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Speaker 3: entire supply chain for those energy sources. So a real

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Speaker 3: opportunity to create an energy renaissance, but not just energy,

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Speaker 3: but also on environmental protection. You know, our nature and

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Speaker 3: our environment, things that conservatives care a lot about. He

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Speaker 3: can put together a really positive package of policies around

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Speaker 3: those issues too, and we can really make this issue

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Speaker 3: a conservative issue again, which would eventually make it nonpartisan

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Speaker 3: like it used to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Good point.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Benji.

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Speaker 2: John mentioned at the top the energy revolution, and you

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Speaker 2: are one of those people who's contributed to that. I

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Speaker 2: don't think anybody can argue against that. You even went

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Speaker 2: into the belly of the beast. Last time I spoke

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Speaker 2: to you had been on campus at Harvard talking about

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Speaker 2: your book and speaking to people who have some pretty

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Speaker 2: wonky green energy ideas on the other side of the aisle.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like those conversations that you had with

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Speaker 2: especially young people with regards to energy, the debunking that

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Speaker 2: you constantly were doing with respect to President Trump's and

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Speaker 2: the Republicans' energy policies, do you feel like that made

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Speaker 2: an impact.

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Speaker 1: In this level?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, our activists, the fifty five thousand people

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Speaker 3: around the country that we have supporting us, are all

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Speaker 3: people who believe in energy pragmatism is really what this

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Speaker 3: comes down to, the belief that we can have affordable,

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Speaker 3: reliable energy, but also increasingly clean energy. We all want

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Speaker 3: clean air and clean water. We want our error to

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Speaker 3: be as clean as possible. Obviously, pollution from energy is

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Speaker 3: something that we can try to limit. And young people

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Speaker 3: actually are starting to get that. There is a much

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Speaker 3: bigger conversation around this than just solar and wind only

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Speaker 3: versus drill baby, drill only. You know, that false dichotomy

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Speaker 3: that we've been given over the last few decades is

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Speaker 3: something that is going away within my generation. Younger people

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Speaker 3: do not see natural gas or oil as a negative

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Speaker 3: like you probably think they do. But they also don't

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Speaker 3: see nuclear as a negative. They don't see any of

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Speaker 3: these things they you know, in analogy, will help us

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Speaker 3: reduce emissions through the different energy sources. And I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, young people around the country, which I've been

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Speaker 3: talking to since my book came out in April at

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Speaker 3: about forty different college campuses, are waking up to that reality.

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Speaker 3: And it's only going to continue, especially if Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: can lead by example here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so important. We've talked in the past about

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Speaker 1: nuclear it seems like nuclear natural gas gets us much

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Speaker 1: quicker to not only reduction targets, but to more plan

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Speaker 1: full energy, which those on grey AI machines are going

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Speaker 1: to need. All these data centers cropping up in the

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Speaker 1: world talk a little bit about balancing the growing appetite

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Speaker 1: for energy that's going to accelerate with being able to

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Speaker 1: produce it quick enough to meet that demand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a real challenge. I mean, I live in Arizona,

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Speaker 3: as you can tell from the get go behind me, probably,

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Speaker 3: but you know, this is a state where energy is expected.

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Speaker 3: Energy demands are expected to double in the next decade.

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Speaker 3: And you know, solar and wind can't do it alone,

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Speaker 3: but neither can the current you know, natural gas and

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Speaker 3: nuclear you know supply that we have. So we're going

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Speaker 3: to need to expand energy in America, in Arizona and

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Speaker 3: abroad to the all forty nine of the other states,

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Speaker 3: not a broad internationally. We need to take all that

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Speaker 3: stuff back. So, you know, AI, I think is a

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Speaker 3: really good connective tissue between people who have believed that

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Speaker 3: we can pick winners losers and energy and that those

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Speaker 3: of us who have been living in reality. Because everyone

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Speaker 3: knows that AI takes up a lot of energy when

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Speaker 3: you tell them, it kind of makes sense, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: it takes up a lot of energy to power all

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Speaker 3: these things. People want affordable energy. It's at the cornerstone

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Speaker 3: of our livelihoods. It's almost it's as close to a

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Speaker 3: need as we have in America and around the world.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that without nuclear or natural gas. And

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Speaker 3: you know, like I alluded to earlier, our natural gas

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Speaker 3: is cleaner than anywhere else in the world. If you

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Speaker 3: can decrease emissions by half by doing natural gas in

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Speaker 3: the United States versus Venezuela or Ecuador or these other

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Speaker 3: countries that California is important fossil fuels from now because

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Speaker 3: they don't do it themselves. If you can cut it

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Speaker 3: by half, then you're actually saving the planet, also saving

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Speaker 3: peple prices well.

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Speaker 2: And for our audience's reference, three hundred additional gigawatts is

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Speaker 2: what it takes to cover the electrical costs of AI,

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Speaker 2: where the typical American household I think requires about one

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Speaker 2: point to kill a WATS. So it is an extreme

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Speaker 2: additional pressure on our grid. The traditional grid can't can't

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Speaker 2: carry the weight of that. But when I talk to people,

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Speaker 2: they are still so concerned about this safety issue nuclear

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Speaker 2: now compared to twenty years ago, what's the.

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Speaker 3: Safe Yeah, I mean, look, the technology has gotten a

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Speaker 3: lot better over the last few decades, and I can

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Speaker 3: understand people's spheres, and you know, I can understand throughout

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Speaker 3: history there have been some disasters, but nuclear has the

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Speaker 3: least deaths or harm associated with it out of any

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Speaker 3: energy source, including clean energy, but any energy source. In

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Speaker 3: the last thirty years, and the technology has become incredibly good.

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Speaker 3: It's incredibly safe, incredibly reliable. I've toured nuclear plants and

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Speaker 3: gotten as close to nuclear waste as you can get,

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Speaker 3: and it is amazing the standards they have. But that's

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Speaker 3: with the old technology. There's also a new technology coming

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Speaker 3: online of smaller nuclear reactors, and that is even better.

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Speaker 3: So the future of nuclear is incredibly bright, not only

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Speaker 3: the meter energy demands, but also provide us clean energy

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Speaker 3: that doesn't all safeguards strong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really important stuff, Benji, What's going on in America

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Speaker 1: is one of the greatest opportunities in the generation. We're

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Speaker 1: very lucky to have had your input on it, in

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Speaker 1: all the great work you've done the last year building

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Speaker 1: a coalition around these great ideas. All Right, folks. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a quick commercial break. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: more discussion about what lies ahead and what challenges a

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Speaker 1: new Trump administration may face. So I have all of

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Speaker 1: that right after these messages. Welcome back in America this week.

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Speaker 1: And I happened to be up in the mountains in

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Speaker 1: my cabin and Sunday morning, it was cold, it was rainy.

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Speaker 1: I put on a pot of coffee, and I had

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Speaker 1: a smile on my face. Why Because for the last

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Speaker 1: six months or so, I've been a Wired to Fish

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Speaker 1: coffee user. I knocked Unkindnuts out of my life after

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Speaker 1: thirty six years. Thirty six years. Why did I do that?

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Speaker 1: Because Wired a Fish is a better tasting coffee. I

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Speaker 1: never thought I'd find one better than dunk a Donuts.

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Speaker 1: I did. But the other part about Wired to Fishing

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Speaker 1: gets me excited. Every time I drink your coffee, I

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Speaker 1: know I'm doing some good because Wire to Fish Coffee

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Speaker 1: takes its proceeds and invests in both faith organizations, Christian

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Speaker 1: faith organizations and conservation. I'm an outdoors a man and

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Speaker 1: a Christian. That matters a lot to me. Joining right now,

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Speaker 1: the architect, the incredible person who put this incredible brand

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Speaker 1: out in the marketplace. Are good friendly Thomas from Wire

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Speaker 1: to Fish Coffee, Leah, Good to have you.

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Speaker 10: Back on, John, Thanks for having me all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited not only by the taste, not by all

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Speaker 1: the things we've done in partnership, but every time I

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Speaker 1: turn around, there's something new that Wired to Fish Coffee

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Speaker 1: is getting behind to help a church, to help a

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Speaker 1: conservation project with water. Tell us the latest of what

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Speaker 1: you're doing. Well.

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Speaker 10: Right now, we're trying to get results from North Carolina

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Speaker 10: on one of their greenhouse projects that they put together

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Speaker 10: to re to put plant life back in their reservoirs

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Speaker 10: for fishing. And you know, the reality is is that

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Speaker 10: we're ready probably for a new project going into next year.

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Speaker 10: And so I just wanted to tell you a little

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Speaker 10: bit about just talk a little bit about conservation and

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Speaker 10: about how we as people can have a good impact

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Speaker 10: on things in a real way rather than just an

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Speaker 10: intangible I wish I could do something kind of way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, give us some of the details about the water project,

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Speaker 2: because I remember last time we had you on, you

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Speaker 2: were talking about this outreach and it's such an incredible program.

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Speaker 2: I think people will want to come to the website

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Speaker 2: and support it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, we've got a couple projects in the water world,

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Speaker 10: but domestically, we're working with North Carolina to help fund

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Speaker 10: greenhouses so that they can put plant life back in

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Speaker 10: their man made reservoirs. Pollution is one of the biggest

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Speaker 10: factors on the environment and also habitat. The more we

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Speaker 10: can improve the habitat of any kind of ecosystem, the

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Speaker 10: better off the entire ecosystem is going to be. And

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Speaker 10: so that's one of the reasons that we got behind

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Speaker 10: this project was it's a project that actually changes the

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Speaker 10: environment for North Carolina and not only makes it a

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Speaker 10: better place for fish, but where their fishing is better

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Speaker 10: and the plant life's better, the animal life's better, and

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Speaker 10: the overall quality of life improves.

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Speaker 1: And fishing turns out to be better too. Something I

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Speaker 1: learned that for sure, that's the best part about it.

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Speaker 1: It sounds so simple, right that putting plant life and

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Speaker 1: aquatic plants back into the water makes a difference, but

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Speaker 1: they're really important natural filters to the water, and in

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Speaker 1: an air where we actually haven't focused on it, we've

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Speaker 1: lost a lot of that natural filtration. So this is

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Speaker 1: a project that once it gets started. It's a gift

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Speaker 1: that keeps on giving, correct.

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Speaker 10: Correct and it also allows us to get rid of

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Speaker 10: plants that don't belong there. There are invasive species, as

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Speaker 10: you probably know, John, and a lot of the reservoirs

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Speaker 10: around the United States, and the more that we can

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Speaker 10: get rid of those, we can also allow our own

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Speaker 10: natural habitat to flourish. And so that's probably a secondary

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Speaker 10: goal of that project, is not only to create good

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Speaker 10: fish habitat, but also so to get rid of plant

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Speaker 10: life that's invasive that is just not good for any waterway.

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Speaker 1: Good point.

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Speaker 2: You guys do so much for your customers, you do

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Speaker 2: so much for the earth, but you also do a

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Speaker 2: lot for the Kingdom. And I know that everybody at

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Speaker 2: your company you consider this in ministry through these parachurches

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Speaker 2: and spreading the love of Christ. Talk our audience about that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're really passionate about improving lives of people in

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Speaker 10: addition to just you know, everybody likes to fish in

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Speaker 10: improving the environment. We have a parachurch that we're working with.

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Speaker 10: They put water filters into the slums of Nairobi. They'll

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Speaker 10: be going back again at the end of January. And

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Speaker 10: so we really want to finish strong the end of

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty four so that we can load them up

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Speaker 10: with filters. When they deliver these filters to the slums

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Speaker 10: of Nairobi where people are literally drinking water that has

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Speaker 10: been urinated in and has all kinds of fecal matter

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Speaker 10: in it, they also tell them about Jesus. And not

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Speaker 10: only do they tell them once, they go back again

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Speaker 10: to make sure that they know how to use the filters,

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Speaker 10: and then they continue to make sure that they know

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Speaker 10: they are loved by God and that they make a

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Speaker 10: difference on Earth and their lives matter. And that's really

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Speaker 10: the reality of it, is like everything matters that God made.

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Speaker 10: We matter. The people that are in the slums of

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Speaker 10: Nairobi with horrible water matter, the reservoirs matter, and that's

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Speaker 10: just really the passion behind the brand is it doesn't

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Speaker 10: take more than one or two people to move a

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Speaker 10: mountain if they really want to move it. And so

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Speaker 10: our messages we're going to move some mountains and we

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Speaker 10: want people to help us move them. And I know

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Speaker 10: there's people out there that have a passion for that too.

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Speaker 1: It's just amazing. I'd love to hear that. I woke

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Speaker 1: up this week and also realizing only that I have

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Speaker 1: a good cup of coffee in my hand, but oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, it's only seven weeks to Christmas. You got

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving around the corner, Christmas around the corner, a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun ways to make wire Fish coffee a Christmas

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Speaker 1: and holiday gift for What are some of the more

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Speaker 1: popular ideas you get on your site right now?

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Speaker 10: Well, right now we only have drink wear and coffee combos,

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Speaker 10: but we do have some fun cups that are Christmas

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Speaker 10: driven that should be available here in about a week

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Speaker 10: or so. And we're going to be adding some ornament

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Speaker 10: combos for anglers and for believers and for people that

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Speaker 10: just really like coffee. Another thing that we're gonna do

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Speaker 10: this month is for every person that buys your your

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Speaker 10: Mug Coffee combo, John Will, well, not every person, they'll

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Speaker 10: be entered. Every person will be entered to get a

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Speaker 10: Yetti coffee press. So I think that'll be really fun

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Speaker 10: because we're just gonna randomly grab a few people who

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Speaker 10: order your combo and throw a Yetti coffee press in

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Speaker 10: their box for him, and maybe they want it, maybe

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Speaker 10: they can gift it, but they're pretty cool and it's

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Speaker 10: just a nice way to say thanks to you and

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Speaker 10: your audience for supporting Ware to Fish Coffee.

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Speaker 1: I love that. And also coffee presses are be coming back.

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Speaker 1: They're making a big comeback. I see everybody using even

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Speaker 1: Thought a hotel. The other day. We're using it the

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Speaker 1: hot new rag darn thing.

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Speaker 10: I love them. I only use them camping because it

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Speaker 10: does take a little bit more effort than sitting a

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Speaker 10: pod into a pot, but boy, the difference is amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of us, I think we are

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Speaker 2: called wou wo's now, are paying much more attention to microplastics,

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Speaker 2: so we're moving away from coffee makers towards.

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Speaker 3: Things like that.

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Speaker 2: So I think that that's just fantastic. Tell everybody again

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Speaker 2: where they can find out all about especially John Solomon's

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Speaker 2: package and in order to get entered into the drawing

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Speaker 2: for that, if you are John Solomon's co host, do

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Speaker 2: you have a better chance?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 8: No, no nepotism.

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Speaker 12: Here right now. Come to Wired Tofishcoffee dot com. You

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Speaker 12: can see the ur L at the bottom of the screen.

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Speaker 12: Here we have a variety of coffee combos.

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Speaker 10: But if you pick one of John's, you'll get your hat,

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Speaker 10: your name thrown in the hat for the coffee press,

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Speaker 10: and we always like to throw a few little extra

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Speaker 10: gaddies in the box anyhow for your audience. We're just

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Speaker 10: super grateful for the massive level of support that we've

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Speaker 10: received from them.

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Speaker 1: Wow, we're super grateful for you, Leah and all you've done.

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Speaker 1: You not only make a great cup of coffee, you

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Speaker 1: do good with every cup of coffee. That just makes

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Speaker 1: me feel awesome, great to count myself among your friends.

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Speaker 1: My favorite. I love the tin mug. I gotta tell

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Speaker 1: you what I was up in the cabin. I was

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Speaker 1: tapping on the deck called that. I don't know why,

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Speaker 1: but it just felt so cool. So go check it

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Speaker 1: out today. And also, if you get that VIP Tumblr packet,

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Speaker 1: after these messages.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to justin News, no Noise. Time to wrap

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Speaker 2: up with some final thoughts, John. We are one week

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Speaker 2: out from President Trump winning his second term in office.

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Speaker 2: As you have had time to let it marinate and

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Speaker 2: soak in for the last seven days, what do you

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Speaker 2: see for this country? A lot of people are talking

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Speaker 2: about a golden age with energy. I mean President Trump,

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Speaker 2: in conjunction with people like a lot of our guests tonight,

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Speaker 2: have such incredible innovative ideas that I think could really

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Speaker 2: make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think you're right. I think when you

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Speaker 1: see the early team that President Trump has assembled, he

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Speaker 1: has a bunch of no nonsense people. People are just

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Speaker 1: going to get it done. They don't need drama, they

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Speaker 1: don't need to have their ego planned. They just simply

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Speaker 1: want to get things done. And they have this sense

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Speaker 1: of purpose and I think sense of mission that we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen in Washington, so famous for getting tied up

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Speaker 1: in a lot of things that don't matter. Right, we

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Speaker 1: have debates that don't matter. The people that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is surrounding himself with the Elon Musks and the lee

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Speaker 1: Ze Elden's and the Tom Homans. They're just get it

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Speaker 1: done sort of people. And I think that you're already

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Speaker 1: seeing the bridges to immediate action. He hasn't even taken

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Speaker 1: office yet. You've got the European Union saying I'll buy

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Speaker 1: some of that natural gas that we didn't want to

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Speaker 1: buy from Joe Biden. You've got foreign countries reaching out

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Speaker 1: to him having conversations about how do we solve the hostilities.

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see on January twentieth, which

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Speaker 1: is normally the traditional starting point for administration, they're going

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Speaker 1: to be running at one hundred miles per hour because

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Speaker 1: they've just surrounded themselves with get it done people. They

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Speaker 1: don't care about the publicity. They don't care about the

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Speaker 1: press releases, they don't care about the book parties or

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Speaker 1: the dinner parties. They care about getting a record achieved

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Speaker 1: while they're in office. And I think that that's what

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Speaker 1: struck me in the first week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. I want to ask you about the

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Speaker 2: date that is all burned in our head, or that

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Speaker 2: is burning all of our heads now, The date that

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Speaker 2: is two weeks before inauguration January sixth, I hear a

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Speaker 2: lot of folks out there are very very stressed out

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Speaker 2: and concerned that there's going to be something that transpires

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Speaker 2: between now and then or maybe on that day. Do

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Speaker 2: you anticipate any type of dust up?

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Speaker 1: I don't right now, just from talking to both sides, Listen,

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Speaker 1: I think there's two things that are different about the

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Speaker 1: election in twenty twenty. The losing side knows that they lost,

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Speaker 1: and they know they lost good, right. They lost big.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes when you lose that big, you have a

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Speaker 1: sense of humility that you didn't have heading in. And

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Speaker 1: so I think this isn't a race where people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's so close, It just wasn't close, right. And I

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Speaker 1: think the second part of it is Donald Trump's people

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Speaker 1: aren't They're not looking backwards. They don't care about the

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Speaker 1: optics or the anniversary anymore. Listen, He's going to pardon

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Speaker 1: the January A lot of the January sixth defendants, I

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Speaker 1: suspect when he gets into office, but they're worried about

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Speaker 1: January two, twenty first, and twenty second and twenty third.

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Speaker 1: How can they make a difference really quickly? I think

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes of presidents beginning to have some conversations

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Speaker 1: with world leaders and financial markets leaders to figure out

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Speaker 1: how do we solve this inflation, how do we solve

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Speaker 1: this strife in the Middle East and Russia and Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't get a sense of either side.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump side, he's not going to be looking back

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Speaker 1: at January sixth, twenty twenty one, and the Democrats, I think,

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Speaker 1: are trying to figure out how do we get back

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Speaker 1: in the game because we lost so badly and out

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Speaker 1: of If you've noticed this, s Amanda, a real noticeable

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Speaker 1: change in tone and tenor there just isn't that personal

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Speaker 1: level of attack that Democrats levied up until November fifth,

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Speaker 1: it seems to have toned down quite a bit. Do

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Speaker 1: you see the same thing? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I also feel like I'm noticing places at

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Speaker 2: church on Sunday. It was the first time back at

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Speaker 2: church since the election, and it just feels, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Kamla campaign loved talking about vibes. It just feels

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Speaker 2: like the vibe is different, that's right, And even for

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Speaker 2: people who didn't vote for Donald Trump, experiencing that mandate

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Speaker 2: mandate and observing the mandate of the popular vote going

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Speaker 2: to Donald Trump, and not by just a few. I

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Speaker 2: think that that has made a difference for people who

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Speaker 2: are thinking, you know what, let's just see what happens.

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Speaker 2: And I know that there are still a lot of

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Speaker 2: people who are freaking out thinking that he is still

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Speaker 2: you know, a tyrant and a fascist, but they are

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Speaker 2: going to learn very very quickly that that in fact

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Speaker 2: is not the case. And to that end. January twentieth

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, Xcel Pipeline offline, January twentieth, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: Excel Pipeline back online.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'll be hard to realize there the project

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Speaker 1: right because it's pretty much been dry docked. But I

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Speaker 1: do think the drill, baby drill opening up the places,

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Speaker 1: getting projects into the pipeline. And then you know, the

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Speaker 1: big riddle that even a guy like Elon Musk has

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Speaker 1: had to deal with, or Bill Gates or any of

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Speaker 1: these big guys that are building data centers is how

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Speaker 1: do we get the grid? Because these old fashioned utilities

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Speaker 1: tell us it's going to take ten years. And I

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Speaker 1: think in Nathan O tonight and what Vault Good is doing,

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Speaker 1: there is an accelerate that I don't think was on

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Speaker 1: the table four years ago. The ability to create micro

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Speaker 1: goods that all snap together and not have to have

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Speaker 1: a massive public works project that costs trillions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the most exciting things that I've heard

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Speaker 1: people in the energy sector talking about the last few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that there are ideas floating all around,

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Speaker 2: and of course new appointments. It seems like every day

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Speaker 2: they are just pumping out President Trump putting out videos.

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Speaker 2: Just yesterday the video about the Department of Education. A

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Speaker 2: lot of people excited about that one, for sure, especially

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Speaker 2: if you're a parent, yeh, and especially if you're a

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Speaker 2: parent in a state that doesn't allow school choice. That

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Speaker 2: is something that I think a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: really really looking forward to. That's all the time that

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Speaker 2: we have for tonight, everybody. We appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 2: John and I will be back here at the same time,

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Speaker 2: same place tomorrow night here on Real America's Voice. But

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Speaker 2: tonight we're going to hand it over to Grant Sinchfield

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Speaker 2: and he's going to take you through the next hour.

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Speaker 2: Grant's take it away.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,