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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, Brandon Anderson Here as always with Raheem Palmer.

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Speaker 4: We are here to wrap up and recap the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl and look back on the NFL season. Now was

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Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Rams are World champions? A bit of

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Speaker 4: a slow start, but a great finish Cooper Cup and

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Speaker 4: Aaron Donald to come through big late to secure the

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Speaker 4: Rams victory for him, the Rams are champions.

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Speaker 1: What is the story of the season for you?

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Speaker 3: On the Rams, they made the right decision going from

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Speaker 3: Jarrett Golf to Matthew Stafford and when it mattered, their

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Speaker 3: stars showed up. Cooper Cup, he made the big plays.

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Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford probably made one of the one of the

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Speaker 3: best rows you'll see. And look, there's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: lot of controversy on how they actually scored because I

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Speaker 3: think there were some questionable calls down a stretch, but

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Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford got it done. And look a lot of

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Speaker 3: people who have criticized the Rams for their Stars and

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Speaker 3: Scrubs approach, but it works. They're in the playoffs nearly

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Speaker 3: every single season, so if you have those top guys,

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Speaker 3: at some point it becomes about having the guys who

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Speaker 3: can make plays.

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Speaker 2: And ultimately that's that's what won in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's the story too.

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Speaker 4: And I'm one of the people that has that has

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Speaker 4: disparates the Stars and Scrubs approach. But you look at

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Speaker 4: down the stretch when the ball last, it's Cooper Cup

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Speaker 4: making all the plays of Stafford making the throws. When

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Speaker 4: they get on defense, is Donald making the big plays.

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Speaker 4: To say, the game, the Stars came through and they

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Speaker 4: had to. And yeah, I think that that's the story.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited too, for you know, we always every league

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Speaker 4: is a copycat league, and though I don't necessarily agree

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Speaker 4: with go all in on the Stars, go all in

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Speaker 4: and trade everything for the quarterback, if people try to

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Speaker 4: copy that, that's a much more exciting NFL going forward

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Speaker 4: with teams aggressive and going for the kill. So we'll

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Speaker 4: get into all of that today. We're gonna recap the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl. We're gonna look back at the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: one season that was, and then just a little look

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Speaker 4: ahead to next season.

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Speaker 1: So let's just jump into it. Let's get to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Rams twenty three Bengals twenty Bengals end up covering the

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Speaker 4: line closed at four and a half, open at three

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Speaker 4: and a half. They covered all the lines in between

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Speaker 4: thanks to that botched extra point games stayed under.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good win for the books.

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Speaker 4: They usually like it when the favorite wins but doesn't

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Speaker 4: cover to go under. Rahim, What was the story of

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Speaker 4: the game for you is that the stars coming through there?

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Speaker 3: No, I think the story of the game was that

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Speaker 3: Odell Beckham got hurt. I mean, it looked like the

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Speaker 3: Rams were gonna run away with this thing, and as

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Speaker 3: soon as Odell Beckham got hurt, you saw that this

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Speaker 3: Defense, it made every play they had to make to

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Speaker 2: At the fifty yard line.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Bengals defense did an incredible job,

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Speaker 3: but Odell Beckham was on the way towards winning MVP

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Speaker 3: like they had nothing for him. And you know, Cooper Cup,

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Speaker 3: he did win MVP, but he was invisible for large

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Speaker 3: funny because we spoke on the Stars and Scrubs approach working,

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Speaker 2: So I think that that was a big story to

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Speaker 4: Well it's not just Odell Beckham got hurt, but Tyler

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Speaker 4: heard of some of these names that they're trying to

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Speaker 4: throw to for the championship. And so you don't have

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Speaker 4: The defense's Super Bowl defenses can stop that. So I

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Speaker 4: think that was a story. The other story, too, was

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Speaker 4: the one that we knew going in from the moment.

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Speaker 4: This was the matchup. We knew the Rams had the

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Speaker 4: elite pass rush, the Bengals couldn't pass. You've probably seen

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Speaker 4: the stat Seth Walder at ESPN reported Bengals had a

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Speaker 4: fourteen percent pass block win rate in that game.

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Speaker 1: That's the lowest of any team.

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Speaker 4: The entire season average, just so you know, is about

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Speaker 4: line was even worse than it looked. Joe Burrow was

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Speaker 4: surviving it early on, getting the ball out quickly, but

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Speaker 4: second half, Like you said, Odell Beckham went out and

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Speaker 4: I started thinking through the Rams offense. I was on

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Speaker 4: the Rams and they're up at halftime. We know Sean

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Speaker 1: And then they come out in.

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Speaker 4: The first play the second half they give up a

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Speaker 4: seventy five year bomb. I'm like, well, so much ruinning

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Speaker 4: thirty one point five EPA on sacks. The next worst

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Speaker 4: practically doubly worse. We knew they had the nine sacks

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Speaker 4: five in the third quarter. That was a third quarter record.

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Speaker 4: That was a game, single game record in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: So to me, that was the story we knew coming

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Speaker 4: in and that was the story that played out as well.

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Speaker 4: So early in the game when Odell is on the field,

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Speaker 4: I felt like the Rams were dominating. Did you do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's the big that was

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Speaker 3: That's why I was the big story to gain for me.

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Speaker 3: Its just because you saw that they they kind of

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Speaker 3: that first down play call, Like the Bengals got the

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Speaker 3: we've really lost something with the entire analytics movement where

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Speaker 2: Be aggressive right away.

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Speaker 3: I think the one thing that Belichick has always done

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Speaker 3: it pretty much put the Rams up seven nothing right

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Speaker 2: Weren't moving the ball that well early anyway.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, I feel like the Bengals defense played well,

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Speaker 3: but you put them behind seven seven nothing to start

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Speaker 3: then it's thirteen. It's thirteen three right away, and it's

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Speaker 3: just it just felt like this this.

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Speaker 2: Thing could truly get away from him.

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Speaker 3: And I think, you know, they got lucky, you know,

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Speaker 3: I just think it was some questionable coaching decisions from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we both thought the game was going to start

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Speaker 4: the Rams suddenly get the ball at midfield and then

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Speaker 4: things opened up. Simon Hunter on convincme had Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you lose him.

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Speaker 4: Is the rough beat if you had the Rams over

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Speaker 4: you lost it by that botched extra point by Hecker.

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Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, I thought that that was going to loom

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that he's as aggressive as he should be.

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Speaker 4: They went for a fourth down buried in their own

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Speaker 1: So rough beat.

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Speaker 4: If you had the Rams over in the first half,

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Speaker 4: first half under that. Depending on the line you got

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Speaker 4: that Hecker extra point made sure that all the unders

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Speaker 4: So thirteen ten and a halftime, Odell Beckham clearly looks

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Speaker 4: about he had that shoulder stinger early on. We knew

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Speaker 4: the Rams secondary was pretty banged up. Anyway, we get

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Speaker 4: the halftime. By the way, did you enjoy a halftime show?

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Speaker 2: I thought about going to Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I'm such a big doctor Dre Snoop Dogg fan, Like

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be from the West Coast. I wanted

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Speaker 3: to be from Compton and Long Beach just because of them,

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Speaker 3: and I've always loved Mary J.

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Speaker 2: Blige. It was good to see Kendrick Lamar. That's my guy,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: Fifty cent looks like he hasn't rapped in years, like

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Speaker 3: he's just so focused on film and him trying to

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Speaker 3: wear that the tank top. As you could tell, he

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Speaker 3: gained a lot of weight. Eminem did his thing as usual.

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Speaker 3: Really great halftime show. It was good to see hip

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Speaker 1: That was an awesome show.

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Speaker 4: The first half was not the most enthralling place, so

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Speaker 4: was a great show though, So we come out second half.

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Speaker 1: And confident like that.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals are plus one seventy on the money line

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: I barely got a chance to catch my breath from

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Speaker 3: Like I'm like, what the hell, Like I literally just

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Speaker 4: I saw that, and I was like, you have to

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Speaker 4: probability dropped from seventy five percent to fifty one percent

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Speaker 4: on that. You have to make that call, don't you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to make the call. I think too.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if the ref just didn't because like, you're

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Speaker 4: I think where the Bengals could have really put the

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Speaker 3: It was very interesting because they actually had a fourth

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Speaker 4: And then suddenly they're in third down and who's the

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Speaker 4: even looking for him in Granted, you know, I didn't

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Speaker 4: There is a big play at twenty six. The Bengals

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I think it has to be the

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Speaker 3: And you know, it was so funny even on that

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Speaker 3: that was another crucial play. And then right after that,

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Speaker 3: and I feel like there was enough time for them

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Speaker 2: But I was thinking that the.

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Speaker 3: and they came close, and then you had that controversial

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Speaker 2: For them to quote it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I thought it was a hold.

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Speaker 4: It's Cooper Cup has earned the superstar call and he

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Speaker 4: how this goes. We know the stars get the calls.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was the right call. Certainly they deserved

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Speaker 1: It was a weird game.

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Speaker 4: If you remember Week seventeen, the Bengals Chiefs game, this

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Speaker 4: Cooper Cup got credit for six first downs on that

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Speaker 4: He had an eight yard catch, twenty two yard catch

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Speaker 4: Another eight yard catch and then yeah, three straight first

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Speaker 4: but that it was a touchdown. So Cup caught two

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Speaker 4: game winning touchdowns. One of them they took away with

442
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 4: on hold, which was the right call, but catches the

443
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Speaker 4: actual touchdown.

444
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Speaker 1: Somehow.

445
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 4: They got him on single coverage, which I don't know

446
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 4: what you're doing leaving single coverage on Cooper Cup with

447
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 4: the championship on the line. But the guy took over

448
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 4: down the stretch obviously, that's where he won. MVP fifteen play,

449
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 4: seventy nine yard drift, and so the Bengals get the

450
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 4: ball back. First play, Ramsey tries to jump and doesn't

451
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 4: do it. Chase gets seventeen yards, they get nine more

452
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: to Tyler Boyd. So we're second and one basically at

453
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Speaker 4: the fifty. They've got a time out left, there's still

454
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 4: like a minute on the clock. They're looking pretty good.

455
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 4: They got money Mac. They're like ten yards from his range,

456
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 4: and that's where I thought the coaching and the play

457
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 4: calling really went poorly.

458
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Speaker 1: That third down and one with p Rin the run stuff,

459
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Speaker 1: What are you doing there? That's one of the worst

460
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Speaker 1: calls the season.

461
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 3: Given the spot, you got to go back to the

462
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Speaker 3: second one because to me, why aren't you just looking

463
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Speaker 3: to pick up the first down at depth?

464
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: Like to me, like that was a total wasted down.

465
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Speaker 3: I think they went no huddle there and Brow ends

466
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: up throwing a bomb and it's just like, yo, dude,

467
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: you gotta go. You gotta get the first down, like

468
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 3: that's the first that's the most important thing. You get

469
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 3: the first down. You got four more downs to play with.

470
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Speaker 3: You only need about eight more yards.

471
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Speaker 2: To get into bill range, And that was a wasted down.

472
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Speaker 2: And then to me, why in the world is p

473
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: ron on the Like, why is p Ran getting the run?

474
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Speaker 3: Like you had all these fourthand you had all these

475
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: short down situations and you're all pro, pro built bro

476
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: running back isn't in for any of them, Like Joe

477
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: Mixon not being in there.

478
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Speaker 2: It's just inexcusable. And then when you saw his fourth

479
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: and one, they're in the shotgun.

480
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Speaker 3: I kind of knew that they weren't picking it up,

481
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 3: like it was just quite obviously obviously they were gonna pass.

482
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: But Aaron Donald, he i mean, he made the two

483
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: biggest plays of the game.

484
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 3: Look, you stopped p Ron from getting the first down

485
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: when it looked like he was he was there, and

486
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 3: then you pretty much make the sack on.

487
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Speaker 2: Burrow and that's the game.

488
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Speaker 3: But like it was, it was very frustrating for me,

489
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 3: just because, honestly, I felt like the Bengal to me

490
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 3: when the play when the when the drift started and

491
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: they hit Jamar Chase and then they made the next

492
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Speaker 3: pass play.

493
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Speaker 2: To me, there was no doubt that they were going

494
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Speaker 2: to go down and score.

495
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Speaker 3: And to see it in when you have a second

496
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 3: and one, third and one and you can't pick up

497
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: one yard, I just think that's all play Ballard.

498
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

499
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Speaker 4: I was frustrated too because some of my biggest props

500
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: run field goals. I had McPherson. I did the escalator prop.

501
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 4: I had him hitting two, three and four, so I

502
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: thought we were money, We're going to hit the third one.

503
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 4: We'd have a shot to hit the fourth one in overtime,

504
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: which I had ten to one. I had four combined

505
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 4: field goals, so I was feeling great, like, Okay, here

506
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: we go, We're getting that field goal. We're going to overtime.

507
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 4: And I thought it was funny too. Those last two

508
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: plays both Aaron Donald stuffs and they really the two

509
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Speaker 4: of the stories of the season. In the off season

510
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 4: coming into the year. Number one was there was the

511
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Speaker 4: whole conversation about is Aaron Donald actually bad at stuffing

512
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 4: the run?

513
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: Like, no, clearly not.

514
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: He makes the huge run stuff play, tackles him and

515
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 4: doesn't let him fall forward for the first down. And

516
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 4: then we had the whole thing of did the Bengals

517
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 4: make their right choice? Should they have drafted offensive lineman

518
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: Pinney Sell, did they make the right choice with Chase?

519
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 4: And then we get the last meaningful play of the season.

520
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase is effectively open because Jalen Ramsey fell down,

521
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 4: but there's no time to get him the ball because

522
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 4: they didn't have the blocking, and Donald gets through. So yeah,

523
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 4: the Stars and Scrubs thing worked at the end. Cooper

524
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 4: Cup made the plays, Aaron Donald made the plays early on,

525
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 4: Odl Beaco made the plays. Stafford came through with the

526
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: big throws. Von Miller had a couple of sacks and

527
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: was in the backfield all game. The Stars did it,

528
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: But I'll say two a couple unsung heroes in this game.

529
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 4: Third string tight end Bryson Hopkins. You ever heard of

530
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: Bryson Hopkins before yesterday?

531
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Speaker 2: Have not?

532
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 4: I had not either. He had two catches on the

533
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Speaker 4: last drive. He had four catches for forty seven yards,

534
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 4: cut all four of us targets. This is a second

535
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: year fourth round pick, one career reception into the game,

536
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 4: and the dude showed up. He caught four balls, move

537
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 4: the chains. Rookie third round linebacker Ernest Jones also big

538
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 4: game for him. He got targeted early and off and

539
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 4: it was clear that was part of the Bengals plan.

540
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: He had that fourth down pass breakup early in the game,

541
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Speaker 4: hit seven tackles. He had a sack and two tackles

542
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: for a lost So even as much as the stars

543
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: came through Ernest Jones Bryson Hopkins, the depth of the

544
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 4: Rams rosters still had to show up and complement it.

545
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 4: So yeah, the Rams become the first team ever to

546
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 4: win three playoff games by three or fewer points. You

547
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: look at the stats pretty even for the most part.

548
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: The yardage was very close. The time of possession and

549
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 4: the first downs were very close, just slight edge to

550
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 4: the Rams on those. But I thought a big key

551
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 4: was third downs. Bengals were three or fourteen on third downs.

552
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: On laid down plays, they were negative zero point seven

553
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 4: to four EPA per play. So it just didn't happen

554
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 4: for them. And the Rams go three for three in

555
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 4: the red zone versus one for three for the Bengals.

556
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: Cincinnati finished four or fourteen in the red zone for

557
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: the playoffs, so they have their chances. They certainly could

558
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 4: have won this game. They showed up a little more

559
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 4: than I gave them credit for, but the Rams got

560
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 4: the job done.

561
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I.

562
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: Feel like this would be a close game, so I

563
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: wasn't surprised. It's interesting to see. You know, this was

564
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: one of the three Super Bowls where you actually had

565
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: the favorite win, what the underdog cover.

566
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Speaker 4: So Cooper Cup came through. He was my MVP pick

567
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: six to one, seven to one at some books. Finishes

568
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: the season nineteen of twenty one games, he had ninety

569
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Speaker 4: two yards.

570
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Speaker 1: That's what he had.

571
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Speaker 4: Ninety two yards here, that's an absurd season. For the

572
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 4: whole season, one hundred and seventy eight catches counting the playoffs,

573
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: two four hundred and twenty five yards, twenty two touchdowns.

574
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 4: Just an absurd, insane year for Cooper Cup. I don't

575
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Speaker 4: think any of us expected that coming into the year,

576
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: So I hit big on the Cooper Cup MVP. Both

577
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 4: of us had the first half under I had Rams

578
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: first to score, Rams half time, full time.

579
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Speaker 1: How did your other props do for you? Any other

580
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: hits for you?

581
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: They had Bengals first half field goals over one point five.

582
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: You knew that was gonna hit, just based on how

583
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: this team has just struggled in the red zone. Also

584
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: had the one that I was pissed off was on

585
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: first drive Bengals point I believed that that one. What

586
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 3: else did we have? Oh, Bengals first first score field

587
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: goal that hit. You kind of knew that that was

588
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: going to hit. But that actually got closer than I

589
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: thought it would be because I think Boyd actually dropped

590
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: the touchdown. But see a lot a lot of my

591
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: game props hit all.

592
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 4: Right, last thing on this, I got a question for you.

593
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 4: I want to tell me what of these three you

594
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: think is the most likely. Number One Aaron Donald retires,

595
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: goes out as a champion here we heard that rumor

596
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 4: going into the game. Number Two Matt Stafford makes the

597
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. He's got all the numbers, the volume,

598
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 4: and now he's got the Super Bowl ring or number

599
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: three Joe Burrow makes it to another Super Bowl, Which

600
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Speaker 4: one of those three do you think is most likely?

601
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Speaker 2: It's gonna go with Aaron Donald.

602
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: Like I said yesterday, I felt like Joe Burrow might

603
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: go out like Dan Marino, and you have a second

604
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: year quarterback makes the Super Bowl and a lot of

605
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: people always want to say, oh yeah, this guy will

606
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: be back. But it's like the Oklahoma City thunder, like

607
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: none of this is guaranteed. And there's nothing that we've

608
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: seen from the Cincinnati Bengals throughout their entire existence which

609
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: leaves us any confidence and their ability to build a

610
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: contender around Joe Burrowing. There's nothing that I see in

611
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: that situation. So this team kind of luck boxed their

612
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: way into getting to the super Bowl.

613
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: Anyway. They got out gained by every single opponent. Even

614
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Speaker 2: in this game.

615
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Speaker 3: It just it felt like they were kind of gonna

616
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: luck box their way into a victory, and they came

617
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: very close. But I know they have some problems on

618
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: the offensive line. The defense was solid, but I'm not

619
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Speaker 3: counting on this team to be a team that's going

620
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: to perennially go to Super Bowl, even with Joe Burrow.

621
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Speaker 4: Yeah, in the ANFC is a gauntlet too, with Patrick Mahomes,

622
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, Justin Herbert. That definitely is going to be

623
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Speaker 4: a tough, tough conference going forward. So it's gonna be

624
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: a tough road for Burrow. I would agree that I

625
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: think that's the least likely of those three. All right,

626
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: let's hear a quick word from our sponsor and then

627
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: take a look back on the season that was.

628
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Speaker 2: You know, you know one thing I want to say.

629
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Speaker 3: I want to say one thing about the super Bowl,

630
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Speaker 3: and this super Bowl was a reminder of why I

631
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: don't like Parrot, because I feel like you could play

632
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: these entire playoffs again and you wouldn't Neither one of

633
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: these teams might have made Like to me, I felt

634
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: like I wasn't watching the champion. Like I want to

635
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: give credit to the Rams, they got it done, but

636
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: I don't feel like the best team won the Super Bowl.

637
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: And I think that's the one thing that's frustrating about Parody,

638
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: and I think that's why we probably didn't like we

639
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: watched the first half and we're texting it. It's just like, Yo,

640
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: this is not really that enjoyable because it's just you're

641
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: not seeing the best of the best play. I felt

642
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: like we saw two teams who kind of to me,

643
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Speaker 3: the Rams, they were a team who they beat up

644
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: on a bad Cardinals team which was bombed out and

645
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: depleted for the last four or five weeks in the season.

646
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Speaker 3: Then you know, they played a Tempa Bay Buffet Near's

647
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: team which had a banged up offensive line. It really

648
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: wasn't the same team that they were midseason when they

649
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: had all the weapons and Godwin Antonio Brown. And then

650
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Speaker 3: to me, they luck boxed their way into a win

651
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: with the forty nine ers, and then we spoken on

652
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bangals enough. So it would have been nice

653
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: to see Buffalo or Kansas City or you know, even

654
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Speaker 3: Green Bay or the forty nine ers make it to

655
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, because I just, to me, I watched the

656
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl and I just didn't feel like I was

657
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Speaker 3: watching the best team.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of disappointing for me. Yeah, I understand that.

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Speaker 4: Then, Yeah, let's use that have to talk about some

660
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Speaker 4: of our kind of takeaways from the season, because that

661
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Speaker 4: kind of HINMS toured one of my big takeaways, which

662
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Speaker 4: is I just felt like, there wasn't a truly great

663
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Speaker 4: team this season, and you listened off some teams that

664
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: I think were good, that I thought were better.

665
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Speaker 1: Than the Bengals.

666
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Speaker 4: But we had a lot of good but not great,

667
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: flawed contenders this season. And for me, you know, we

668
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 4: had our fun on the forty nine ers futures. That

669
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Speaker 4: was part of the thing on the Niners futures is

670
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Speaker 4: heading into like week seventeen eighteen, I looked at the

671
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: playoff picture and I thought, man, there's nobody that I'm like,

672
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: all right, this team's definitely gonna be in the conference championship.

673
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 4: There's nobody that was definitely going to make a run

674
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Speaker 4: at something. And it just it felt like, Okay, you know,

675
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: in another world, the Colts get into the playoffs, I

676
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: think the Colts could have won a few games and

677
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: made the conference championship. In other world, the Chargers I

678
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: think could have won a couple of games if they

679
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Speaker 4: get into the playoffs, or like you said, if you

680
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Speaker 4: ssimulate the playoffs again, I think, you know, in the

681
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: first weekend, the Rams and the Bengals games, for me,

682
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Speaker 4: out of six games were the least consequential games of

683
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Speaker 4: any of them. I was thinking, these teams are just

684
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Speaker 4: seeing who wins Rams, Cardinals or Bengals Raiders is going

685
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Speaker 4: to be like a layup for the teams afterward. So

686
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: clearly I missed by me, but it just it felt

687
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Speaker 4: like a parody year.

688
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Speaker 2: And I agree.

689
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Speaker 4: You know, I had a lot of friends yesterday asking, so,

690
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: you know, what do you want to happen in the

691
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: Super Bowl?

692
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Speaker 1: Who do you want to win? And I love the

693
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Speaker 1: underdog story.

694
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Speaker 4: You love Joe burrw You love to see the Bengals

695
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: here for really the first time in our lives as adults,

696
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 4: because in nineteen eighty nine I was six.

697
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Speaker 1: I wasn't watching the Super Bowl then or knew what

698
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Speaker 1: was happening.

699
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Speaker 4: You like the story, but as a sports fan, as

700
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Speaker 4: a sports writer, I want the champion to be representative

701
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Speaker 4: of the season. And it wouldn't have really felt to

702
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Speaker 4: me like the Bengals represented the season. They were an

703
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Speaker 4: averaged above average team all year. The Rams better feel

704
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: like the represent it because we had the Stafford thing

705
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Speaker 4: all year.

706
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Speaker 1: They picked up von Miller in obj midseason.

707
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Speaker 4: It's given the two That's kind of what I felt like,

708
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Speaker 4: just as a sports fan, I wanted to happen. But really,

709
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Speaker 4: I think it represents either way, there wasn't that great team.

710
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: The other thing I think that ties to it is

711
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Speaker 4: that so much late in the year and this happened

712
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Speaker 4: last year too, and I feel to see it in

713
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs. I picked Chiefs over Bucks last year. So

714
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: much late just comes down to the battle of attrition,

715
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Speaker 4: who's left, who's left on the field. And I thought

716
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Speaker 4: it was going to happen yesterday too. From the first half.

717
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: I was all over the Rams. I was the one

718
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Speaker 4: person Action Networked backing the Rams yesterday, and when they

719
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Speaker 4: went up thirteen to three.

720
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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, bring me my flowers. I

721
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: got the Rams. We're looking good. This team is way better.

722
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Speaker 1: I try to tell you all.

723
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Speaker 4: Suddenly Obj gets hurt, Weddel is hurt, and I'm like,

724
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 4: all right, it's happening here. There's nobody a left and

725
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: the Bengals are going to win by default because the

726
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: Rams don't have guys on the field.

727
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Speaker 1: I can make the plays anymore. And I think I

728
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Speaker 1: think we have to give the Rams.

729
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: Credit that late drive with just Stafford and Cup coming

730
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Speaker 4: through and the defense being as stout as it did,

731
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Speaker 4: Like given the odds of how we they were in

732
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Speaker 4: the second day, and how many receivers they're missing. I think,

733
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: like that's a pretty big step up for the guys

734
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Speaker 4: they did have left. But yeah, no great team, and

735
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Speaker 4: just how much health really is a factor? Like we're

736
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Speaker 4: coming my big takeaways? What other big takeaways that you

737
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Speaker 4: have are lessons that you learned this season.

738
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Speaker 2: I think we're seeing the new age of quarterback. Like

739
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: by far.

740
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Speaker 3: I mean when you look at some of the young

741
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: quarterbacks Patrick Forjlomes, he's already has a Super Bowl. But

742
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: you look at Josh Allen, Josh Allen played perhaps one

743
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 3: of the best games you'll ever see a quarterback play,

744
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: only to get a loss. You look at Joe Burrow

745
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: like he's proven that he's next. So it's just like

746
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: you're seeing that Tom Brady, that Drew Brees, that Aaron Rodgers,

747
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: the Peyton Manning.

748
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: That era is over.

749
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: We're seeing a new era of quarterbacking. And if you

750
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: don't have one of these guys, there's only so much

751
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: you can do. I think some of these other teams

752
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: are going to have to take a hard look at

753
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: is their quarterback good enough? You know, It's like I

754
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: love Kyler Murray, but he couldn't get it done without

755
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins. I love Dak Prescott, but he just wasn't

756
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: good enough when it mattered. And I think you got

757
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: to have one of these guys who were good enough.

758
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: We saw the Titans. The Titans were the number one

759
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 3: seed when it came down to it, Ryan Tannehill, he

760
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: threw the game away with interceptions.

761
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: He couldn't make the plates. So you got to have

762
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Speaker 2: one of those guys.

763
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Speaker 1: I agree.

764
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Speaker 4: I had that in my notes too, just the changing

765
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: of the guard and that you've got to have that

766
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Speaker 4: quarterback when it comes down to it. So big picture

767
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: from the season, what teams for you were you the

768
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: most right about or who won you the most money?

769
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: For me?

770
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys.

771
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Speaker 4: I had the Cowboys among my Super Bowl contenders coming

772
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 4: into the season. We remember at the start of the

773
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 4: season they kept winning and covering like a week after

774
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 4: a week, so I backed them early and often. Obviously

775
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 4: they didn't come through for me in the playoffs with

776
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: my super Bowl ticket, but they were looking.

777
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Speaker 1: Good going in.

778
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: I made a lot of money. We made a lot

779
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: of money on Steelers' money lines as underdogs this year,

780
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: just kind of playing that and of course the Niners.

781
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: We didn't our futures on it, but we did get

782
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: those kept getting those money line wins late beating the

783
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: Rams and then the Cowboys and uh then you know,

784
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: getting all the way to the DOWNCA Championship and within

785
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 4: ten minutes of the Super Bowl. So those were the

786
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: big wins for me. Who are your teams that you

787
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: were most right about or who won you the most well,

788
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: I mean you mentioned the Niners. The Knighters were big

789
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 4: for us in the playoffs.

790
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: Earlier on in the season, I was like the champion

791
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: of the Minnesota Vikings betting syndicate. Like I'm looking at

792
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 3: some of my records here, I actually picked the Minnesota

793
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: Vikings six times. I was four and two in those games,

794
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: sixty six point seven percent. I think in the Cowboys games,

795
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: I was four and one picking with them. The Stillers,

796
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: I was four and one picking with them. Another team, actually,

797
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: I was three and oh picking the Cincinnati Bengal. Yeah.

798
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: One of the teams that I actually did really well

799
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: betting against was the Baltimore Ravens. As you as you

800
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: know the first half of the season, they were one

801
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: of those teams who were winning a lot of one

802
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: score games five and three betting against the Baltimore Ravens,

803
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: five and three betting against the Raiders, four no betting

804
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: against the Carolina Panthers. I was three and one betting

805
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: against the Bears, three and one betting against the Broncos. This,

806
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: I mean, there's an interesting ones in here. I think

807
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: the two teams that I struggled with all year the

808
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams. I lost quite a bit of money

809
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: betting against them. I was two and five, just twenty

810
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: eight percent betting on the Rams, and I faded the

811
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: Cardinals a ton. That's probably the biggest they were one

812
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: of the biggest.

813
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: Surprises for me.

814
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: I was two and five betting against the Cardinals, and

815
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: I thought the team that they proved that they were

816
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: down the stretch. That's what I thought they were going

817
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 3: to be all year long. And they came out the

818
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: first ten weeks of the NFL season and it was

819
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: like nine to one, So they they really surprised me.

820
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned the two teams for me that were

821
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: my biggest miss is the Cardinals and the Titans. They

822
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 4: played back in the Week one and I remember coming

823
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: into the season, like you spend so much more time

824
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: on the Week one game than any other week of

825
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: the season, because you've been waiting and prepping all offseason.

826
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: And I remember just shrugging at that game, being like, well,

827
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 4: I think I took the point. So just like I

828
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 4: have no idea what either one of these teams is.

829
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: Neither one is good, neither one really matters. And then

830
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: halfway through the season, I was like, wait, was that

831
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl preview that we watched back in Week one?

832
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 4: So I got crushed early on Cards and Titans. I

833
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: made it back a little bit late. I was a

834
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: little too heavy on the Falcons too. I couldn't let

835
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: that one go. I thought Arthur Smith was going to really,

836
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 4: you know, amp that offense, and it just didn't happen.

837
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: So that never came around. The Bengals obviously were a

838
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: big surprise. I never gave them enough credit until he

839
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: made it nearly won the Super Bowl here, So what

840
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: about futures win? So you know, my Tom Brady pick

841
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: came up short, My Dak Prescott comeback Player of the

842
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: Year came up short, both runners up on that one.

843
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: But I still made money on MVP. Got in on

844
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers just in time. After that Brady Saints game

845
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: and also Jamar Chase for Rookie of the Year and tj. A.

846
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 4: Watt for Defensive Player of the Year. Both of those

847
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 4: were mid season picks. Those were races that it didn't

848
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: feel good about early in the year. So that was

849
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: a takeaway from me on futures is you can kind

850
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 4: of wait and wait for a moment at a lot

851
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: plus two to fifty Rogers plus two to fifty Chase

852
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: at one ten, and then at three hundred that sweet

853
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 4: spot kind of around two to fifty three hundred where

854
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: it's like maybe the second guy in the race, but

855
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 4: you don't like the first guy. You feel like they're

856
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: about to close the gap. That's kind of how my

857
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 4: futures played out. Did you have any futures wins?

858
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: I didn't have a ton of futures. I think I

859
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: had some win totals. I think one of the futures

860
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: that me and you both played with the Indianapolis Colts

861
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: to miss the playoffs actually had the Colts to miss

862
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: the playoffs before the season started even money, So to

863
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: be able to get something that I liked before the

864
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: season at even money at plus one thousand, like, I

865
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: really loved that one.

866
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 4: All of us were on Cleveland and that one did

867
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 4: not go well. But the they had all the injuries.

868
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: We got off of Cleveland pretty fuch.

869
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. That's another That's another

870
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: one where it proves that you got to have that

871
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: right at quit a bit.

872
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 4: We called ourselves a Browns podcast in the preseason, and

873
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 4: we get out of that business pretty quickly. I was

874
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: looking back last night kind of taling out my bets

875
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: for the season on the NFL, and I had brown

876
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: Super Bowl in there. I had Baker Mayfield MVP in

877
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: their way back from the start of the season, and

878
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Speaker 4: I kind of forgotten about, like, oh well, that never

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Speaker 4: really happened there. But I taled up in the app

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Speaker 4: for my bets on the season four and fifty seven bets.

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Speaker 4: We finished just on NFL APP bets in the Action

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Speaker 4: I Work app plus forty nine point three units on

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Speaker 4: the season, so fourteen point six return on investment. So hopefully,

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Speaker 4: allow you guys listening, hopefully you made some money off.

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Speaker 1: Of all those picks.

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Speaker 4: And before we close out here, I want to do

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Speaker 4: one thing that we've done the whole season. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: do a little look ahead and take a look, I

889
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 4: had to next season and see what we're thinking early on.

890
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: So first just a couple of teams was talking about them.

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00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 4: Who do we think will bounce back or who we

892
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 4: think that there might be some early value on. Obviously

893
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: we don't know where the guys are gonna end up,

894
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: how the draft will go, what quarterbacks will move around.

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Speaker 3: But what's a team that you've got your eye on

896
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: for next season right now? Definitely the Baltimore rave I

897
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: think they had a ton of injuries this year. Obviously,

898
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson was banged up, and you saw Lamar Jackson

899
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: through the first eight weeks of the season. They won

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00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 3: a ton of close games, and then you saw that

901
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: regress towards the end of the season. I think, Look,

902
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens are definitely going to take a step forward.

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00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: That's a team that I'm really really looking at.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I like the Ravens too.

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Speaker 4: You know, John Harbaugh is still there, Lamar Jackson will

906
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: be healthy again and again MVP candidate. They also finished

907
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: fourth in the division, so they're gonna get a really

908
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: soft schedule because of that. They get to play the

909
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 4: NFC South AFC East next year. So the only thing

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00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 4: is books already have the Ravens sixth to win the

911
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 4: championship next year, so I think that they're also with

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Speaker 4: us on that one. So I like the Ravens. The

913
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Speaker 4: team I had my eye on here is the Chargers.

914
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: So the Chargers finished third in their division, so that

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00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: means again a little bit of a softer schedule. That

916
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: means they got games against Miami, Cleveland, Houston, Atlanta coming up.

917
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Speaker 4: We know justin Herbert is awesome can get the job done.

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Speaker 4: They were fourth and DVU in offense this year, and

919
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 4: they have the fourth most cap space of any team,

920
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: so they're gonna be able to go out and bolster

921
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: that offensive line a little bit more and hopefully especially

922
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: attack that defense that was just not good enough this year.

923
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 4: But if they can add to the defense the way

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00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: they added the O line this year. Chargers are at

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Speaker 4: plus twenty five hundred at bet MGM right now, which

926
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Speaker 4: is only the fifteenth highest for winning the title. Herbert

927
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 4: can win the title. Herbert can be Joe Burrow or

928
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: Matt Stafford. So I like the Chargers. They're probably my

929
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: favorite pick right now because they already have they have

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Speaker 4: the name, they have Herbert, they don't we don't have

931
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Speaker 4: to wait on the carousel.

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Speaker 1: We just have to use all that cap space to

933
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: bolster the defense.

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Speaker 3: If I'm looking at a long shot of a team

935
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Speaker 3: that I feel like can make elite, to me, I

936
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: think the Philadelphia Eagles can potentially make elite if they

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Speaker 3: get a new quarterback. And I noticed there's gonna be

938
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Speaker 3: a market for a lot of quarterbacks Deshaun Watson. We

939
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: know what's going to happen with Russell Wilson, with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these guys are going to be leaving

941
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: their teams. So if the Eagles can get it to

942
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: Shaun Watson, I think they're in a good place. I

943
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: think the Denver Broncos to me, with them firing Vic Fangio,

944
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: I think they're in a good position. Like we love

945
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: the Broncos this year, they just need a new quarter

946
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: I think if they get a quarterback and a coach,

947
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: I think they're right there.

948
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: So the books think they're right there too.

949
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: I think the books think that Aaron Rodgers is headed

950
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Speaker 4: to Denver because depending on where you look, Denver is

951
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: like six or seven for best title odge for next year.

952
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: So we may already have missed the window on getting

953
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Speaker 4: some odds there. I think you look for a sleeper

954
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 4: in the NFC because the AFC, we just said they've

955
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: got all those quarterbacks loaded up, especially if Rogers ends

956
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: up over there too. I couldn't really figure out who

957
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: the sleeper is in the NFC, though, So let me

958
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Speaker 4: make the case for my Vikings. Kevin O'Connell, super Bowl

959
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: winning offensive coreyinator comes in. I always love to look

960
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: for the new coach, and I think that he could

961
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: do some stuff with that offense. Unlock justin Jefferson a

962
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 4: little bit the way that he did Cooper Cup this year.

963
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 4: And could Kirk Cousins be a Matt Stafford type year

964
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: if he got the right protection, the right receivers. Maybe

965
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 4: I'm talking myself into it. The defensive talent is there.

966
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 4: Didn't perform this year, but Vikings have an extra home

967
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 4: game next year. The schedule ships up pretty nicely. They're

968
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Speaker 4: forty to one right now.

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Speaker 1: I got my Vikings.

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Speaker 4: Jersey on in the Super Bowl. It's the closest I've

971
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 4: ever gotten. Do the Vikings have any shot or if

972
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: Kirk is around, is a just dead on arrival.

973
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Speaker 3: I'm not trusting Kirk Cousins I just I love the office.

974
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: I love Justin Jefferson, I love feeling. It's just when

975
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: push comes to shoved. Can you trust this guy? And

976
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: I just don't trust him.

977
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Speaker 1: I can't do it well.

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Speaker 4: I hate to do it to you Bengals fans. It's

979
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 4: already a low spot, but the Bengals are the top

980
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: of my list.

981
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

982
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: The Bengals finished seventeenth in DBAA, eighteenth on offense, nineteenth

983
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 4: on defense. I still don't trust Zach Taylor. There's no

984
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 4: offensive line. The defense certainly showed up at moments in

985
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: these playoffs, but there's some work to be done there.

986
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: They do have a lot of cap rooms they're going

987
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: to add to this team. You like Burrow, you like

988
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Speaker 4: Chasin Higgins and Boyd. But right now the Bengals are

989
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 4: sixth favored at the books. I don't see it. Look

990
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: a great Cinderella run, but it's a tough division. I

991
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 4: think the Bengals have a better chance to miss the

992
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 4: playoffs right now than they would get back to the

993
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 4: super Bowl next year.

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00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 2: Got a doubt.

995
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: I think the rest of the division is going to

996
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: get better. I agree with that one hundred percent, but

997
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Speaker 3: that is.

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Speaker 4: Going to wrap it up today and for the football

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Speaker 4: season here at the Action Network Podcast, thank you. Thank

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Speaker 4: you to everyone who us listen and follow along all season.

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Speaker 4: Thank you to our producers, Dan Titus and Matt Mitchell

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Speaker 4: boll Of, our editors and production team, everyone that worked

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Speaker 4: Thank you to our listeners and to our fans. There's

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Speaker 4: no show without you guys listening. You guys reviewed, you

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Speaker 4: sent messages, you followed along, hiled our picks all season along.

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Speaker 4: We made a lot of money together, so thanks for

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Speaker 4: listening along the way. With Super Bowl wrapped up, the

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Speaker 4: Action Network Podcast will be covering major events throughout the

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Speaker 4: off season. We got March Madness, We'll have UFC special events.

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Speaker 1: Like the Oscars.

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Speaker 4: Later this week, Matt Moore and I come over from

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Speaker 4: the Buckets Podcast to give you our best bets for

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Speaker 4: NBA All Star Weekend. So stay tuned to the Action

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Speaker 1: You ready for the NBA home stretch.

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Speaker 4: Credit deadline is in the rearview mirror, and we're heading

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Speaker 1: We are on to the off season.