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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off now down in Texas,

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Speaker 2: the governor, Republican Governor Greg Abbott, he has approved new

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Speaker 2: powers letting Texas state police and law enforcement resources arrest

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Speaker 2: the illegals who come into the US over the US

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Speaker 2: Mexico border into Texas. And this is likely to create

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Speaker 2: white a stir and go all the way up to

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. You will, no doubt, I am sure,

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Speaker 2: recall what happened back in twenty ten that Arizona law

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Speaker 2: under the under the Biden administration. That was also when

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Speaker 2: the border was seeming to be increasingly wide open. And

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Speaker 2: what happened there, the Supreme Court effectively struck down the

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Speaker 2: efforts by the state of Arizona to help enforce federal law.

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Speaker 2: And it was the position of the Obama administration. If

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Speaker 2: you were to go back and look at what happened there,

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Speaker 2: the position of the Obama administration was, we don't want

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Speaker 2: you helping us with the lawlessness and the violation of

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Speaker 2: federal laws at our border. You stay out of this

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Speaker 2: and let it continue to be anarchy down there. That

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Speaker 2: was the Obama administration's de facto position on it. Don't

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Speaker 2: get involved. It's up to us, I mean the federal government,

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Speaker 2: the FEDS to fail intentionally, yes, to fail miserably, but

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Speaker 2: to fail intentionally on securing the southern border. That's the

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Speaker 2: whole point. It's nullification of immigration laws because they want

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Speaker 2: this to transform the country in an electoral sense in

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Speaker 2: their favor. And I'm already telling you we're going to

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Speaker 2: go back and play these clips in a little over

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Speaker 2: a well, hopefully won't have a Democrat administration. But if

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Speaker 2: we have a Democrat administration in a little over a year,

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Speaker 2: obvious saying, guys, remember when I was telling you they

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Speaker 2: were going to have this whole pivot to amnesty. The

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Speaker 2: pivot to amnesty is coming. It's going to happen if

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Speaker 2: there's a Democrat term too here, whether it's Biden or

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Speaker 2: Kamma or whatever. But this really shows you as well,

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Speaker 2: or this will show you. I think what they're doing

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Speaker 2: in Texas that the federal government, and this is important,

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Speaker 2: the Biden Executive branch and Mayorkas head of DHS and

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Speaker 2: all the rest, they are lying to you. They are

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Speaker 2: lying to your faces every time they say we are

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Speaker 2: going to deal with the order. We want to secure

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Speaker 2: a border. We want rule of law the border. They're

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Speaker 2: lying because Texas is saying, hey, okay, we're gonna We're

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Speaker 2: sending the reinforcements. You know, the cavalry is coming over

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Speaker 2: the hills, so to speak. We're coming and we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna help you out. We're gonna make sure that

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Speaker 2: the cartels don't have free reign. We're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 2: deport people who are just trying to scam our system

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Speaker 2: and come into the country by lying about credible fear,

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Speaker 2: all the rest of it. And you know what the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration is gonna do here. Simultaneously, they will have

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Speaker 2: Democrats in the Senate who are negotiating over a change

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Speaker 2: to border and parole policies for illegals coming into the country.

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Speaker 2: They're trying so hard to change the language. I might add,

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Speaker 2: and some of you have been pointing this out. I

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Speaker 2: know they want us to say migrant or undocumented. You

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Speaker 2: used to be illegal alien. You rarely hear illegal alien anymore.

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Speaker 2: They say people can't be illegal. I'm like, I think so,

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Speaker 2: I think, I think, I think people's presence can be illegal.

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Speaker 2: If someone breaks into my house in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the night, they're an illegal visitor. They're not an undocumented visitor.

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Speaker 2: They're illegal. And my house is not a good house

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Speaker 2: to break into these days, I might add, just saying,

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Speaker 2: but here we are faced with the reality of what

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Speaker 2: the executive branch, with a Democrat or really a ball

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Speaker 2: of Democrats running it in the name of Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: what they will do versus what Democrats in the Congress,

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Speaker 2: in order to try to keep their seats, in order

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Speaker 2: the Obama administration will immediately immediately, I mean, have they

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Speaker 2: already done it? Actual I'm checking right now to make sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just happening. This is a Senate bill.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, this is Texas Bill SB four. Obama administer, sorry,

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Speaker 2: Biden administration is going to say that this is a

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Speaker 2: unconstitutional interference with the federal government's prerogative of border enforcement.

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Speaker 2: So what they're going to say is, sorry, Texas, we

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Speaker 2: want you to stop helping us. Yeah, imagine that for

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Speaker 2: all standing in front of a house that's on fire

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Speaker 2: I mean, barely doing anything. They got like one guy

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Speaker 2: know if this is gonna do it, guys. Everyone else

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Speaker 2: about like a whole bunch of volunteers, a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: trying to make this a fun, fun analogy. And they've

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Speaker 2: saying no, no, no, no, no, excuse me, excuse me.

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Speaker 2: We want this fire to stop, but we don't want

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Speaker 2: your help. We're just gonna watch it burn. That is

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Speaker 2: what the Biden White House is about to do, if

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Speaker 2: they haven't already. And it shows you they are liars.

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Speaker 2: They are liars. Going into an election year, they're going

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Speaker 2: to present themselves as wanting a secure border. They're going

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Speaker 2: to present themselves as people who care about the lawlessness,

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Speaker 2: the anarchy the tyranny, It doesn't matter. And what we

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Speaker 2: will find is that is all false. Well we already

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Speaker 2: know that, but they will show us that that is

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Speaker 2: all entirely false. They don't want help, They want it

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Speaker 2: the way it is. They just want a lot of

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Speaker 2: secure border too. They do not. And what does a

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Speaker 2: secure border even mean? I'll tell you. We can break

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Speaker 2: down all of these terms. What is a secure border?

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Speaker 2: Is a border secure if the Democrats are enforcing policies

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Speaker 2: with even the most minor cursory background check, and they

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Speaker 2: effectively just ever like a nightclub where they're counting people off,

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Speaker 2: you know, they have like a little clicker they count people,

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Speaker 2: If that's effectively what border patrol becomes, is that a

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Speaker 2: secure border? No, what I want is people that do

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Speaker 2: not have the immigration the legal immigration pathway into the

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Speaker 2: necessary steps and checks in that are not allowed in America,

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Speaker 2: and if they get into America by some illegal means,

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Speaker 2: they are kicked out of America. Remember we're not throwing

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Speaker 2: We're not saying throw them in prison. For twenty years.

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Speaker 2: We're not saying you'll ruin them or their families or

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Speaker 2: anything else. It's just, you know, if you arrive here

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Speaker 2: So when you're seeing a state like Texas, try to

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Speaker 2: won't do. They're more law abiding illegals, not just not immigrants.

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Speaker 2: Illegal immigrants are better than Americans, are better than all Americans.

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Speaker 2: This is what democrats say. This is the you know,

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Speaker 2: send enough illegals to any of these cities, there are problems.

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Speaker 2: Mayor Eric Adams has said this is the disaster of

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Speaker 2: the city of New York. For example, in one of

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Speaker 2: his more intelligent public statements, Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago

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Speaker 2: had a little bit of a meltdown over Texas sending

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Speaker 2: The issue is.

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Speaker 3: Not just how we respond in the city of Chicago,

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Speaker 3: is the fact that we have a governor, a governor,

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Speaker 3: an elected official in the state of Texas that is

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Speaker 3: placing families on buses without shoes, cold, wet, tired, hungry, afraid, traumatized.

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Speaker 3: seeking employment. The governor of Texas needs to take a

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Speaker 2: Wait a second, what do you mean, Mayor Brandon Johnson

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Speaker 2: of Chicago. Where are they supposed to go? Notice he goes.

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Speaker 2: You know, Chicago has problems. We have homeless shelters that

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Speaker 2: people looking for jobs. Where isn't that the case? Find

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Speaker 2: me the part of America that has endless funds, nothing

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Speaker 2: but free healthcare resource just to give away, no crime

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Speaker 2: you mean that the illegals are certainly in the initial phase,

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Speaker 2: In fact, the favorite thing for a Democrat is to

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Speaker 2: More illegals is better. I want as many legals as possible.

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Speaker 2: Get off my block. Illegals that's what they do. They're

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Speaker 2: They're doing it in LA They're doing a love of

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Speaker 2: I've been down to McCallen, you know, I've been down

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Speaker 2: Why it's the Democrat sanctuary city communities that want this.

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Speaker 2: this is great. The blessings upon us of countless illegals

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Speaker 2: who are unlikely to be able to speak English, or

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Speaker 2: an information based economy. That is a blessing that this

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Speaker 2: That should be their position, and yet it isn't. They

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Speaker 2: in schools because of all the illegals who have showed up.

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Speaker 2: But you're supposed to shut up and say this is

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Speaker 2: Isn't that an interesting dichotomy. Isn't there something going on there,

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Speaker 2: all of these individuals who proclaim they want this, and

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Speaker 2: yet when they get it, they scream and they say stop. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're seeing exactly who the Democrat Party is on this,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's good for the American people to

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Speaker 2: just remember, look for the head fakes, look for the

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Speaker 2: false promises, Look for the Democrats changing all of a

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Speaker 2: wanted this. Seven million illegals in this country that have

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Speaker 6: I think up with the right president at the right time.

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Speaker 2: don't know if anybody was gonna be Trump this cycle

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Speaker 2: in the Republican primary. Maybe I'll have to eat those words.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Ron De Santis will rocket to the front, or

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Speaker 2: Nikki Haley will pull something off. I'm not losing sleep

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Speaker 2: about either of those possibilities. But you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: No one can predict the future. But if it does

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Speaker 2: play out the way it seems like it will here,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there was anyone who Trump was president,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of the base wants to see him

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Speaker 2: president again, and that is what it is. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure that you know, there's I think that's a

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Speaker 2: necessary context for evaluating the other Republican campaigns. And I

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Speaker 2: think viveg as much as he said some great lines

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Speaker 2: on stage, and it really has run as an adjunct

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Speaker 2: of the Trump campaign. So that's what has happened. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's just a fair assessment of the reality of what.

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Speaker 2: You know. I would want Trump to advise me, but

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Speaker 2: everything he did is perfect. But I agree with all

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Speaker 2: of his policies, but you know, he's an adjunct of

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Speaker 2: the Trump campaign. Obviously a very sharp guy, not going

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Speaker 2: to be president. But you know, the point is, as

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Speaker 2: long as Trump was in it, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: there was anything anyone else in America on the right

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Speaker 2: was going to do to be able to challenge that.

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Speaker 2: Because of what has happened and what I think Trump

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Speaker 2: still represents to the base, That's the sense that I

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Speaker 2: have of it today. Maybe in a week we'll see

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Speaker 2: some crazy numbers in Iowa and the dominoes will fall

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Speaker 2: and everything will be different.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 2: Probably not right. Probably not. Look, one thing about the

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Speaker 2: holidays is that you get a chance to catch up

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Speaker 2: and actually watch them movies. And Clay and I was

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Speaker 2: talking about how Hollywood usually misses the mark on making

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Speaker 2: great movies these days, but turns out this Christmas Day

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Speaker 2: there's a movie I'm actually really excited about. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go see The Boys in the Boat. Based on the

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Speaker 2: New York Times number one best selling book. If you're

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Speaker 2: a history nerd like we are, you definitely want to

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Speaker 2: add this one to your list. It's the true story

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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six during the Great Depression. The Washington Huskies

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Speaker 2: were underdogs who competed for gold at the Summer Games

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Speaker 2: in Berlin. It's a feel good American movie capturing the

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Speaker 2: power of working together to overcome all odd Think of

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Speaker 2: it like Top Gun, Maverick, only in the water, not

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Speaker 2: quite hitting Mack five or whatever. The Boys in the

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Speaker 2: Boat is a multi generational movie for the holidays. It's

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Speaker 2: read at PG thirteen. It is wholesome entertainment for the

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Speaker 2: Going to be joined by our buddy Ryan Gerdusky, political

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Speaker 2: political operative and consultant extraordinaire coming up here in just

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Speaker 2: a few moments, and a writer. I want to take

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Speaker 2: some of your calls. Let's go with Steven and Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: very important state for next year.

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Speaker 7: What's up, hey, Shield time, shield tie? I gotta say

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Speaker 7: I like Nikki Ailey. I think she's got a lot

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Speaker 7: of spunk. She reminds me of my sister. She doesn't

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Speaker 7: she doesn't take crap, you know. But I don't think

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Speaker 7: she's the right one to be paired with Trump.

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Speaker 2: Tell me more.

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Speaker 7: As much as I think, as much as I think

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Speaker 7: she would do well once she got in, I don't

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Speaker 7: know that she would help him get in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think she brings anything

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Speaker 2: other than money to the party, so to speak, because

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Speaker 2: she would do very well with the donor class. But

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Speaker 2: maybe that's maybe that's enough. I don't know. People are

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Speaker 2: saying this will never happen. Why is anyone talking about it? Well,

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Speaker 2: I can tell you people that are close to the situation,

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Speaker 2: and in Trump world they're quietly talking about it. So

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Speaker 2: these are discussions that are underway. Thanks for calling in, Stephen,

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Speaker 2: Uh Doug in Colorado? What's going on, Doug?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Not much? Just working? Help them pay the taxes?

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Speaker 2: Good man. Well, listening to the show while you work

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Speaker 2: is a pro level move. So well done.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Hey, I was gonna tell you my VB VP

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Speaker 5: pick would be Ted Cruz. I think he could bring

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Speaker 5: out the Spanish vote towards him, and he's an ex lawyer,

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Speaker 5: He's super intelligent, and he's always had his mind on

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Speaker 5: the border ever since.

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Speaker 2: You know, I I gotta I like I like Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 2: You know that we have him on the show frequently.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for calling in, Steven. I'm sorry, Doug, but

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that. First of all, I

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Speaker 2: think Ted is good where he is in the Senate.

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Speaker 2: If you really want to talk about a different role

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Speaker 2: for Ted, it would be interesting. In my mind. I

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Speaker 2: think Supreme Court for a second Trump term would be

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Speaker 2: something we should consider, uh, given Ted's mind when it

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Speaker 2: comes to the law and the Constitution. But you know

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Speaker 2: you need somebody who well you should pick somebody for

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Speaker 2: VP who brings something to the table for the election.

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Speaker 2: And you know Texas is going to go red. So

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't see that happening. And as much

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Speaker 2: as Ted rose above some of the petty stuff in

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen to'd be a big Trump ally for four years,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure he'd want a BVP for four years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I could be wrong, Ted. If I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: send me a text or call in and tell us

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong. About that one. We also have a VIP

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Speaker 2: email from Kirk who says, take this to the bank.

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Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy will be Trump's VP. No, I will not.

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Speaker 2: I do not pass, go, do not collect two hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy will not be Trump's VP. I will plant

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Speaker 2: to flag on that. There's no way it's not gonna Trump.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy is not going to be Trump's VP. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know where that came from. Dean in

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Speaker 2: Florida has a question. What's going on, Dean?

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Speaker 8: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Oh good?

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Speaker 8: I got a question, and then I've also got a statement.

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Speaker 8: I'm not understanding how these democratic lawyers and Democratic representatives

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Speaker 8: consistently say that illegal aliens have constitutional rights when they're

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Speaker 8: not American citizens. And you know, as for like the

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Speaker 8: things in New York and all that, there's three point

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Speaker 8: five million veterans and active duty, but yet we have

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Speaker 8: to continually pay for our retirements, like as in our

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Speaker 8: health care, and it consistently goes up once the cost

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Speaker 8: of living goes up. And everybody keeps thinking we get

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Speaker 8: free health care. Yes, if we go to the DA,

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Speaker 8: which most people know.

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Speaker 2: The VA is not a good place to go. But

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Speaker 2: yet they.

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Speaker 8: Can seem to kick veterans out of hotels in New

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Speaker 8: York and the illegal alien, let's call them what they are,

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Speaker 8: get free cell phones, free computers, free electricity, free to

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Speaker 8: the list goes on, even free housing. Yet they're kicking

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Speaker 8: veterans out of hotels that they just put in in

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Speaker 8: New York.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what you're saying is true.

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Speaker 8: How is it unconstitutional to take somebody out of our

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Speaker 8: country and put them back where they came from.

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Speaker 2: No. In fact, well thank you for calling in. And

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Speaker 2: what you're saying is what the law states. The law

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Speaker 2: states that people who are in the country illegally are

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Speaker 2: to be deported. That is what is supposed to happen.

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Speaker 2: If you come here and you are not in this

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Speaker 2: country through legal means, you are subject to deportation. And

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Speaker 2: yet we have been led to believe that deportation is

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Speaker 2: some kind of heinous and inhumane thing. Every other country,

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Speaker 2: every other country of any you know, wealth and substance

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Speaker 2: around the world says who comes and who goes and

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Speaker 2: is willing to send people home, is willing to tell

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Speaker 2: people sorry, we're we're going to send you back. Now.

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Speaker 2: I know that Europe deals with its own migrant crisis

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Speaker 2: and people coming in, and there's political fights over who

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Speaker 2: stays and who goes. But other countries enforced, are allowed

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Speaker 2: to enforce their borders and we're not constantly lecturing them

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Speaker 2: and saying, oh, it's so racist. Here we are, though,

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Speaker 2: seeing where the Democrats want to take the full lawlessness

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Speaker 2: of our southern border and recognizing it's not going to stop.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to stop. They are changing the country, clearly,

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Speaker 2: they are changing the country, and they're doing it intentionally,

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Speaker 2: and this is ideologically motivated for them. It has to

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Speaker 2: do with power, it has to do with votes. Let's

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Speaker 2: see here we have Jenny writes in is everyone fine

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Speaker 2: with the fact that Abbott allowed this invasion to take

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Speaker 2: place for three years before getting stuff together to stop it?

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Speaker 2: Republicans run the state, there's no excuse for him. Well, Jenny,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean, I'm not going to sit

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Speaker 2: here and say that I agree with everything that the

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Speaker 2: governor of Texas has done for years now. I thought

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Speaker 2: he was pretty bad on COVID stuff and said it

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Speaker 2: at the time. You know, I think I gave him

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Speaker 2: like a C plus on COVID, maybe a B minus

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Speaker 2: B minus just because I'm a nice guy. Probably a

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Speaker 2: C plus performance on COVID. And I think that he's

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Speaker 2: done things though, like, for example, set up barriers in

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Speaker 2: the Rio Grande that are meant to prevent people from

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Speaker 2: coming in, and the federal government keep stopping it. So

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Speaker 2: he's coming up with new ways. Is this politics for him?

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Speaker 2: Sure of course it is, He's a politician. Is this

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Speaker 2: likely to stand? Will it work? Probably not. I think

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Speaker 2: the courts are going to shut this down again. Oh, actually, wait,

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Speaker 2: this Supreme Court may take a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: different view than the twenty ten Supreme Court. So it's

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Speaker 2: all a question of I guess this would go to

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Speaker 2: probably the what the fifth Circuit? Am I right? In

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Speaker 2: that one's probably the fifth Circuit? How does the Appeals

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Speaker 2: Court deal with it? And then goes up even higher

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Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court and will see, but they most

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Speaker 2: likely have to overturn the Arizona law. From the ruling

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Speaker 2: on the Arizona Law from twenty ten, We've got some

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Speaker 2: polling out, including a New York Times Siena poll that

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Speaker 2: has a surprising, a surprising number just today. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: want to know what's going on here. This is not

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Speaker 2: in line with all the other polling. Our friend political maestro,

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Speaker 2: a guy who knows what's going on in the world

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Speaker 2: of politics, Ryan Gardusk. You'll be joining us shortly. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into it coming up