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Speaker 1: in Burrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bow Bishop and Nathan Zigura. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's do alive on a Monday edition of the program,

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Speaker 1: merely Bow in the great Z. How you doing, buddy,

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Speaker 1: I'm in darkness. It is darkness. Hello, darkness, my old friend.

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Speaker 1: So they're doing the construction. They put up a temporary wall.

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Speaker 1: Behind the wall was our window to the world. None,

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Speaker 1: not so quite dark. It is quite dark. It actually

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Speaker 1: makes the lights more bright. They're hurting me. They are.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to even look in that direction, to be

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Speaker 1: quite honest, if I'm gonna be quite honest with you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's where the hoodies to bring like light to

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Speaker 1: the area all the whole time. And then the joy

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Speaker 1: of it all that that might help. That could certainly help. Um.

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Speaker 1: I feel robbed from yesterday. I feel robbed, um robbed

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Speaker 1: by what happened in the Eagles Niners game to quarterback

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Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, you just didn't get a game.

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Speaker 1: It was done. So I have well, and then I

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Speaker 1: that I think marred what was still a really thrilling game. Um,

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Speaker 1: but some just inexplicable stuff and decisions on what to

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Speaker 1: call and what not to call, and the idea that

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Speaker 1: we have a league that is worth what this league

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Speaker 1: is worth it. We don't have full time referees that

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Speaker 1: aren't held accountable, and we don't have a sky judge

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Speaker 1: permanently ready to get things right right away. I don't,

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Speaker 1: but then any sort of I can't wrap my head

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Speaker 1: right now a split second, right now, they got it,

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Speaker 1: which is incredible to me. But all right, let's start.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's do chronologically or do you want to

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Speaker 1: start see, I'm choose your own adventure. I'll do either one.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with let's go chronological. Let's start with the

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Speaker 1: Niners and the Eagles. Well, and this is going to

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Speaker 1: lead me into what I told you. I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I ever had a program that I did solo,

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Speaker 1: you know I would do this thing or not a

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Speaker 1: thing like is this a thing or is it not

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Speaker 1: a things? You can use that if you'd like, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you. That feels like kind of a catch all.

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Speaker 1: It feels like like something you could do every day.

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Speaker 1: It feels like you could almost get sports and non

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Speaker 1: sports topics in there, illuminating, entertained cinema, anything you want.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I'm gonna wait, let me vocation spots, trends,

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Speaker 1: write that down things thing or not not a thing.

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Speaker 1: I like it. So this is gonna come to work.

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Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do here is gonna cover into both games,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna start chronologically with what was the biggest

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Speaker 1: play early on anyway of the first game. And so

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna propose as and I think this is

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Speaker 1: that idea, how would you do it? Would you like? Is?

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Speaker 1: Let's pretend that I have an institutional go So what

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Speaker 1: I would say this happened thing or non affairs? Okay, okay, right, yep,

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Speaker 1: Vante Smith jumps up and does this, which must be

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Speaker 1: I knew both of those calls within two seconds of

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Speaker 1: In the end, it doesn't make a damnit of difference

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Speaker 1: were robbed. It wasn't It really wasn't even a game.

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Speaker 1: It was not a game. So three things, thing one

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners would have been better off playing I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna guess at least in the crowd that day, and

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Speaker 1: playoff roster and inactive, right, Like if his attitude was that, Like,

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Speaker 1: it's weird that Kyle wouldn't have a better read on

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Speaker 1: and playoff games only. Every quarterback in your program should

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Speaker 1: And four but like they should all be able to

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Speaker 1: Like you should never have situ you don't have a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: dress three for every game? Who cares? You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, oh god, we gotta get We got Chad Henny.

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Speaker 1: So you can have three quarterbacks active every week. Who cares?

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Speaker 1: I's gonna play? And that's not a competitive advantage of

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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks. I couldn't agree. Who cares? You can't play

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Speaker 1: get to see it. Did you hear Nance's good line?

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Speaker 1: He goes, what if I would have told you that

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Speaker 1: brock Purty started and finished the game against the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and the Niners lost. I'm surprised you got it out

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Speaker 1: without Romo yucking it up over his every call that's

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Speaker 1: doing any work. I don't know what he's doing here, Jim.

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Speaker 1: it up there, and that guy was actually like in

424
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Speaker 1: great position, but it was beautiful, threw a couple. There

425
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: are some dimes in this game by both guys. Mahomes

426
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Speaker 1: Is touchdown to the Valda scantling off balance on one

427
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Speaker 1: ft in a crowd of people. Was an absolutely. I

428
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: didn't think. I didn't know how I was gonna get

429
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Speaker 1: through it. It was impossible that would get through that unbelievable.

430
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Speaker 1: So there's there's big time play. Maybe the fourth down

431
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Speaker 1: you throw a bomb to Chase. He just elevates between

432
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: two people and double coverage and gets it. Yeah, you

433
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: got they have they have some those those teams have

434
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: so many weapons. They're just they're not gonna be able

435
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: to keep it. And that's gonna be the hard part

436
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati is they can't. You put all your money

437
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: in two receivers in a quarterback. You can't do it.

438
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: You can't do it. You can't do it. But yeah,

439
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 1: it's a shame that the officials announced it. Again, I

440
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: thought that some of the coaching was nuts, like Andy

441
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: Reid in time outs, like they just didn't have time

442
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Speaker 1: outs because the first half you use all three and

443
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: like not And he used two challenges, which is that

444
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: was a good challenge. Turns out first one wasn't what

445
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: we talked about. That thing or not a thing. Yeah,

446
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: it's crazy, so good, what do is there? I like Burro,

447
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: I like Chase, I like a lot of the guys

448
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: on that defense. I liked watching them play. I like

449
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: the unit's look great. I like the Bengals. I thought

450
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: that the borough head stuff and Eli Apple's just entire

451
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Speaker 1: outation that I was. I enjoyed the fact that the

452
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Speaker 1: chiefs one, and I enjoyed that Kelsey goes on there

453
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Speaker 1: and goes burrowhead by and then tells the mayor. The

454
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Speaker 1: mayor Cincinnati's video is one of the most all time

455
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: idiotic just cringe e And it was cringe. It wasn't

456
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: even funny, like if he could have done it as

457
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 1: like a wrestling promo, it could have been kind of funny, awful,

458
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: horrific paternity test. No, it turns out not his dad.

459
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: And then for Mahomes, I mean for Kelsey that caught

460
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: a rock promo. No your roles, shut your mouth, Jabron.

461
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: It was so I like it. Kelsey's Cleveland guy Waller,

462
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: Kelsey versus Kelsey. That's cool. But the Bengals made themselves

463
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: and not at the fault of but it just goes

464
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: to the you know, one or two bad apples can

465
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: spoil the whole bunch. They were kind of like the

466
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Speaker 1: heels to me in that game. And so I was,

467
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem that I was kind of

468
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: rooting for the baby faces, the injured Mahomes and the

469
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: injured Kelsey and there down. I don't know. Did you

470
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: could you tell from the from the broadcast that Mahomes

471
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Speaker 1: was hurt? I didn't know that they talked about it.

472
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Speaker 1: Did did they discuss it at all? Was it ever

473
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Speaker 1: brought up? I didn't know. So when you just that

474
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Speaker 1: he was hurt, I didn't realize that he was hurt.

475
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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know he was against odds.

476
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that. I'm sorry. I wish I would

477
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: have made that more clear on the telecast because that

478
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: would have been fails like that was important information that

479
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: Mahomes was injured, because I would not have known. No,

480
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: I think that they were. They yeah, man, they were.

481
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: They lean into that and burrow to this point. Now,

482
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: I always I will say this. I think it's nonsensical

483
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: to think that you would need extra motivation to play

484
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: in an AC champion But it mattered. But it's something

485
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: that afterwards you can you love like it doesn't Travis

486
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: Kelsey's not playing any harder because the Merris Cincinnati's an idiot.

487
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: It's an NFC championship game is a pro. He's gonna play,

488
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: They're They're all going as hard as they can. But

489
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: at the end, you do keep receipts. And they were

490
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: really thrilled to be able to do it. And I

491
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: do think that up until this point Um Burrow has

492
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: been able to thread the needle on sure of himself,

493
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: but not cocky. Now, a lot of this doesn't have

494
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: anything to do with with him, in my opinion, because

495
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: I nothing to do with him. The borough head stuff,

496
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: none of that, like that's all it's not his um.

497
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: But they do have to own that now. I would

498
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: also say this when you look at you're watching those

499
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Speaker 1: two last night and you're saying to yourself, God, that's

500
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: a hell of a standard that those two teams have,

501
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: and you think about the snake pit that is this

502
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: conference and what Buffalo Jacksonville Chargers, hopefully us what we're

503
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: all chasing after to try to stop that from being

504
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: an annual occurrence. Chief spangles a f C Championship game.

505
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: It had the feel of Manning Brady like that we're

506
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Speaker 1: going to see him. I mean, this is my homes

507
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: is going to his third Super Bowl four years. I

508
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: back to back a f C championship game with these

509
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Speaker 1: two teams involved, Like, there's challenges for everybody. You got

510
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: to navigate cap all of it. But wow, the standard

511
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: that they have put themselves in is pretty high. And

512
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: here's the thing. We beating the Bengals repeatedly and we

513
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: had that we certainly should have beaten the Chiefs last year,

514
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: maybe even both games or at the end. It's uh yeah, no,

515
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: it's an unbelievable standard. And you mentioned the other teams.

516
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Speaker 1: The a f C is gonna be just bonkers um

517
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Speaker 1: and it's fun. It's fun. That was fun. I liked

518
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: that there was pressure. Again, if you're a Bengals fan,

519
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: don't take say nothing about the intentional grounding that like

520
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: pretty much everybody has an agreement that that was. It

521
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: was intentional grounding. Now people are upset about it, but

522
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: you overcame it if you would say, okay, Burrows got

523
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: the ball now, because after the past to Hurst, you're

524
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: out at like the thirty. I think even further, I

525
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: thought they were yeah, and they were in the mix

526
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: and you have the ball right there with Joe Burrow,

527
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna go pick up the arch and

528
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: they did not like he missed and the homes missed one.

529
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: The cross Yeah, that was actually had him with a

530
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: running it different and he missed him. I wonder if he,

531
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: like split second chip switched to He's gonna throw tours

532
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: um borrow missed one too. It was really high level.

533
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: It was really high and it was tense and it mattered.

534
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: And Chris Jones, Chris Jones, Chris Jones is what everybody

535
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: should be talking about. Ristjones turned in one of those

536
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald how he wrecked the end of the

537
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's what Chris Jones did. Chris Jones without

538
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: Chris Jones. Yeah, alright. Coming up next, one of our

539
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: guys has been named to the Pro Bowl roster. We

540
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: will get you the update on that. There's a lot

541
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: to continue to react to here around the NFL, some

542
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: interesting hirings and firings on the coaching side of things.

543
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: We're not done with the championship games either. Just started

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Speaker 1: off and running on a reaction. Monday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns Daily brought you by Bally Bet, Coming soon, Ohio

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Speaker 1: on eight fift ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to

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Speaker 1: Cleveland el can heal, Serious Lawyer, Serious Injuries called one

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Speaker 1: and intrelk Ohio for a free case for you all.

550
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Cannounces proud partner of your Cleveland Browns, Wyatt Teller has

551
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: been named to the Pro Bowl for the second consecutive year.

552
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Replaces Kansas City's Joe Duney at that position on at guard.

553
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: So good job. Why yeah, so why it joins obviously

554
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Myles Garrett, Jel Betonio, the Browns having four

555
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: representatives in the Pro Bowl, three on offense, and that

556
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: quartet all made it last year too, So pretty good.

557
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: I wonder. Yeah, I was trying to think of like

558
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: because obviously we missed the post season the last two years,

559
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: and yet we have four Pro Bowl guys back to

560
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: back years. It's a lot of Pro Bowlers. Usually that

561
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: correlates where it goes both ways. So yeah, good job

562
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: for them. This is I want to say, my first

563
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: year here we went four and twelve and sent six

564
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. Is Who's what was the tight end?

565
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: It was George Thomas, Jordan Cameron Cameron, Joe Hayden, Um,

566
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon, T J Ward. Does you havea one more

567
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: that I'm missing. I have the helmet. Yeah, I love

568
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: to go peruse those signatures. The So this is this weekend,

569
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: right is the Pro Bowl. This is the Bannings Manning

570
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: versus Manning And it's not a game. It's just activities.

571
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: There's a flag game, but yeah, it's a lot of activities,

572
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: a lot of activities. Yeah, there's a lot of actios.

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00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, if we have time, how do you

574
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: think this does? I bet it struggles. It is worse

575
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: than the game, but we're back to a game next year.

576
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: Alex Mack was the fourth. Yeah, Joe Thomas, Josh Gordon,

577
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: Jordan Cameron, Alex math Mac, Joe Hayden, t j Ward.

578
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. I bet the ratings are bad, and I

579
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: bet they're back to a game next year. You think, yeah,

580
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: I think. I think it's all the Mannings are great.

581
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: It's fine. But like, um, I think that people like

582
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: to watch games and they're not gonna understand what's going on.

583
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're something, still a vast majority

584
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: of people flip and you see Pro Bowl and you

585
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: flip it on and there's eleven on eleven and you're

586
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: and it looks like football. You'll watch it, You'll watch

587
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: You'll be pulled into it, versus what are we doing

588
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: with dodgeball content whatever? Like, I just think it's gonna

589
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: be they're great, Well, who's the m C or they

590
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: am seeing it? Who's hosting it? I don't know. I

591
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: think then I'm not sure if there is an m C.

592
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean they should turn it into like the Saturday

593
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: Night All Star Game stuff that like that he does

594
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: during all do that? Don't you remember that with the

595
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: quarterback competition when they would do like the longest throw

596
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: and the accuracy and like Marino would throw it a

597
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Speaker 1: thousand yards and he hit a hit a bull's eye

598
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: from sixty yards away, moving target, like all that stuff,

599
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: like they've done that. I like it. Yeah, yeah, I

600
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: like that stuff. Let's see a clean one. It's clean.

601
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: Crisp Nana tried the Yeoman's effort. It's not. It's not

602
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: the same as the official Teaching pro though different level. Um.

603
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see the way for growing and

604
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: helping grow the game. You probably found that on Instagram.

605
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Mind is hacked, so well, yeah, you're dude, it's done.

606
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: I don't know my guy from I told you that, right,

607
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: what my guy from Facebook's doing? You just told me

608
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: that he was in the mix. What did he well,

609
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: he's he I finally got a hold of him. I

610
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: don't remember when I this was Thursday night ray when

611
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: I told it it was it was hacked. And he goes,

612
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: he goes, this is now my number one priority forget

613
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: Global Partnerships, Global sports partnership development. I'm out, that's going

614
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: on the back burner. I'm gonna fix account like that.

615
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: I like that intensity. I believe that he has he's

616
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: thinking about it the right way, which and I told him,

617
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: I said, well, this can be because when he went

618
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: to a business school, I had to write all these

619
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: recommendations to like Ivy League schools for him, like six

620
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: of them. I'm like, well, now we're even. If you

621
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Speaker 1: can get this back, then that's a wash for me

622
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: writing letters and recommendations to Columbia. Um. Yeah, So the

623
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, the skills competition, takes place Thursday at seven pm.

624
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: So what are we getting? Sun Bowl will take place Sunday,

625
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: February five at three pm. What is it? The Pro

626
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: Bowl will be simulcast on ESPN, ABC, and Disney. Okay, um,

627
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: but like is the skills live or is that going

628
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: to be taped and replayed like as part of Sundays.

629
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Speaker 1: There's not much that's gonna get me to remember that

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00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: that's on Thursday. It doesn't seem likely to know that.

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00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm that I'm not going to be looking for that

632
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Yeah, that's tough. So they must be

633
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Speaker 1: to the flight game is on? Are thinking is it

634
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Speaker 1: seven on seven? Are they gonna blockers eight? Seven on seven?

635
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Speaker 1: And I think it counts for a great I think

636
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: it's like a little bit more weighted. I believe I

637
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I believe that's true. See, nobody

638
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: even knows it's gonna happen this week. We didn't know

639
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: when we do this. We are in the business of

640
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: the National Football League. We do not know when it's

641
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: airing or what it is. That's a bit of a problem.

642
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: I know there's a long drive contest. I'm here for,

643
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: like golf, so that'll be Thursday probably. I'm like going

644
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: through like ESPN is brought in, like everybody, you know what,

645
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: I like, you know of all this type of nonsense

646
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: that I like the most. Since we haven't had like,

647
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: we haven't had like a real dunk contest in twenty years,

648
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: haven't had a real three point contest and a really

649
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: long well three point contests pretty good. I guess a

650
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: lot of the dudes still do that. I love. Give

651
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: me a rock and jock, baby, Oh god, loved rock.

652
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Give me a rock and jock. When you get rock

653
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: and jop anything, rock and jock hoops wearing all of

654
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, you see who can who's good or not,

655
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, Wow, this dude is the least athletic

656
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: human on the planet. Always made you, you see, like

657
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: a Frankie Mooney's to take it pretty seriously, you know what.

658
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: I like, he's gonna be a dude. There was a

659
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: video over the weekend that showed a rock and Jock

660
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: where Kenny Rogers hit a little pump fake Michael Jordan

661
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: flies by and the Gambler hit a three. Oh my

662
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: god with full beard with gambler, Oh my god. The

663
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: hold of doing to show up? When were like the

664
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Speaker 1: days that where you would get and I want to

665
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: say Dion was in when Michael IRV and the foot

666
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: Locker slam fest Fest. Where's that so? Mike Conley Sr.

667
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: Who was the Olympic long jumper. He was always in

668
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: the finals like he would win it consistently. Prime was

669
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: in it. V erv could get up. Yeah that was fun.

670
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: I like that. Bring that back. I should be a

671
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: part of this. I have the ESPN lineup. Give it

672
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: to me. Uh. They should have a three part play.

673
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: Marcus Spears and Laura Rutledge will be the boy. This

674
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: is of the Skills Company. Who is the first one?

675
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Rutledge Spears and who are three? Okay, um, you gotta

676
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: put a comedian in there. You needed to have a comedian.

677
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: Former Pro Bowl player Ryan Clark, NFL VET danil Orlovski

678
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: will also be part of First of the First Night

679
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: with Clark as a Roman commentator. Or Lavsky will host

680
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: the Longest Drive Now for the seven on seven, which

681
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: ESPNS got a nice three hour block. Oh my god,

682
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: that's gonna do nothing. What no one wants to watch?

683
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: I will give you a watch. State of Ohio should

684
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: play seven on seven football. You should have more football

685
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: in the state. It's a story for another day, but

686
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: no one watched one. Watch the announcing team for this,

687
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: all right, Kirk Herb Street and Pat McAfee. Well, I

688
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: don't know why Herbie would be involved. I get the

689
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: McAfee part of it. I know Herbie and McAfee are tight.

690
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I think Herbie's son interned with McAfee and Um. Herbie's

691
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: the reason mcfeeend up on game day. But which was

692
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: always funny, is this football teaven people to be I

693
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: don't think Kirbs she likes Mac. I'm like, no, I

694
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: promise she likes Um. It feels like they need another

695
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: They would need another dude in that too, though. You

696
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: almost need a little traffic cop. I feel like, yeah, yeah,

697
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: you need a point guard. Snoop Dogg is the captain

698
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: for the a f C, so him and back and

699
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: together could be Mr dog Yeah, okay, all right. Davidson

700
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: for the NFC. I feel like we could have done

701
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: a little better there. But Pete Davidson, it's like that

702
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: there's only it's okay, hold on, let me write it

703
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: down before. There's only two others hold on that are

704
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: that that are this type of well, there's a but

705
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: there's only one other that is shocking as shocking as

706
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: the Pete Davidson one, in my opinion, in terms of yeah, yeah,

707
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: that's right, that's so hard to believe. He went from

708
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: Cox to Anison or Anison to Cox in their prime

709
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: one to the next and they both were still on

710
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: the show. That's right, and they're still friends. And he

711
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: did that yeah yeah again and Mr Jones a hell

712
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: of a tune Man Long December. It's great. He's great music,

713
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: but it's not he doesn't look like your class. Not.

714
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: This isn't Tommy Lee. We're talking about No, no, not anyway,

715
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: Uh huh. Maybe it is um Around the NFL Chargers

716
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: expected to hire Kellen Moore Kellen Moore, Yes, Kellen Herman Bluemore,

717
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore for their offensive coordinator vacancy. Um. This was

718
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: after he parted ways the Cowboys, part of ways with more.

719
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: Remember we had that how they had fired all this

720
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: everythin Um. It does feel kind of like if you

721
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: want me to make dinner, I'm gonna need to have

722
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: buy the groceries from McCarthy to Jarra. I may now

723
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: you're on a very very slippery slope with McCarthy. You

724
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: got one year, You're done. I would think, why do

725
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: you even as Ah. There were a couple of people

726
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: around the Cowboys organization, like former cowboys and people who

727
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: covered or just said the Cowboys fans careful what you

728
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: wished for. Yeah, I don't think this is gonna help Herbert.

729
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that this takes care of this offense.

730
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: M I tell was pretty good. They traded away he

731
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: was our receiver. They were pretty damn good the year

732
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: that they had everybody a Marii c d uh Gallop,

733
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Zeke Pollard, tight End Schultz Dac before Dad got hurt,

734
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: they were forty some points a game. Yeah, they were

735
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: the number one scaring offins. I think. Ever, Yeah, so

736
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: I think, I mean that it'll be better off than

737
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: what they were. And their problem is just Staley's game management,

738
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: which that can't fix this. This won't fix that. Um.

739
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: The bigger issue is Dallas. I mean it's you watch

740
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: you know your Jarra and you think all right. In

741
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: my division, a team just got back to the super

742
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: Bowl for the second time in six years with a

743
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: new coach and a new quarterback. In the time that

744
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: I haven't been back since, Like I've had the quarterback

745
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: that I thought was good enough. These guys have done

746
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: it with two different quarterbacks and two different head coaches

747
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: in six years. What happened? G men? Feel like they

748
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: could either Danny Dimes has becoming something or they could

749
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: drop a quarterback in there and they could be formidable.

750
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: The commanders or need a quarterback. But that's it. They

751
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: could be formidable. They'll have a new name soon. Um, spoiler.

752
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: I'd love it to be true. No, I think it

753
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: has to be. I don't know why you would. Why

754
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: would you keep commies like you're not tied to it.

755
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: The fan base hates it. It's a it's Snyder's nonsense.

756
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and then you're out. You only have former

757
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: years anyway, and then Major Tuddy. Yeah, get rid of

758
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, nightmare. It sorted out. I mean, that's

759
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: that's all you gotta do. Red Hogs, You're welcome. Done.

760
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: We'll take script are on the hat, will take all

761
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: of all sales proceeds of Red. It's not hard. Um,

762
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: this is a higher I think that we'll pay immediate

763
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: dividend dividends. The Dolphins hired Vic Fangio to be their

764
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. That is I mean, you want to talk

765
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: about given McDaniel a chance to succeed. That's as good

766
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: as it gets. Elite and veteran. That might not be

767
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: the case. Why what happened? You breaking news over there, Gibbey,

768
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: Mike Silver is disputing it, uh and his sources, Vic Fangio,

769
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: Well so what so? So here's what what I had heard. Well,

770
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I heard was Fangio one and was going to go

771
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: with Peyton, and so that people were reading in the

772
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: fact that Fangio took a DC job was Pelici reported

773
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: that meant that Peyton was out, but that Fangio is

774
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: not necessarily going to Miami and that this might not

775
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: be true, which is now a Gibbe saying. So Mike

776
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: Silver is saying, for what it's worth, Vic Vangio told

777
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: me last night, and this is even thirty this morning

778
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: this morning, nothing has been decided. On my end. There

779
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: is a huge amount of mutual respect between Shanahan and Fangio,

780
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: a highly successful Niners d C under Jim Harbaugh. It

781
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: appears the forty Niners might have that opening soon. So

782
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: Ryan's goes to the Texans and then Fangio would go

783
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, potentially with Kyle Power, whose quarterback in

784
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: the Niners next year. Brady, I don't know. I don't

785
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: know all that yucking it up with your boy maybe

786
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: do you think parties just out now. I don't know

787
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: if I gave gave you the option when you roll

788
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: with Brady for a year with McCaffrey and Debo and Kettle,

789
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: And it depends on what it did to the rest

790
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: of my operation. Yeah, money, money wise, like I can't

791
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: have everybody, and I'm not sure that he's not cooked

792
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: a little. He might be. Yeah, I'll tell you what though,

793
00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: Fangio and that sounds formidable. Yes it does. Um, all right,

794
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Neilson, the defensive coordinator with the Falcons, as he

795
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: gets that job. Um. Did we see the Empire State

796
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: Building lit up green and white to support the Eagles? Yes,

797
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: we did, curious choice, although they went viral. Why, well,

798
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: that's like us, I agree, the Terminal Tower golden black

799
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: for the Squealers. Well, what is I don't know what

800
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: is New York's What is there? Is Boston because of

801
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: the Red Sox they hate them the most. Where is

802
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: it Philly? Like? Who Who's New York's right? New York? Say? No, no,

803
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: I get it. I just think I didn't even know

804
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: the Empire State Building had a Twitter account until yesterday.

805
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: Same Boston, though the Jets you had the and then

806
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: you had the Red Sox, Yankees, the Jets Pats just

807
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: pent yeah for a while. Well, Celtics next too. It's

808
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: got to be no, they've sucked but and the Jets

809
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: Pats hasn't been much of one either. But I mean

810
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: to Sanchiz the way that will. Yeah, Um, I did that.

811
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was a curious choice, but I think

812
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: if you're trying to go viral, it probably worked. Um.

813
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: We will do one thought, one game, ball, one goat

814
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: from each game of Championship Sunday. Coming up next, you

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824
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: give a you want one thought, one game ball one

825
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: goat from the championship games. Yeah, we got more more

826
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: I can go to. I figured that's why we devoted

827
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: this show today. Dad. Yeah, let's have some fun. Yeah,

828
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: there were several. Um. My one thought from Philly and

829
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: San Francisco is um the thing that I came away

830
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: with was, I just I remember when they showed up

831
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: here in camp and we were standing out there and

832
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: they it's not often you hear the phrase all the time, like,

833
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: well they won when they got up the bus, they

834
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: literally did. When we saw them walk out, we went, well,

835
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: that's quite impressive on the offensive defensive line. And we

836
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: have dudes on our offensive defensive line, but they were

837
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: on another level. And we just said, well, can Jalen

838
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: Hurts play? That's it. Everything else that got just do

839
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Speaker 1: they have that there? Their sixth and seventh lineman and

840
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: maybe seventh or eighth are Jordan Davis and and Dominicans

841
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: who turns out when he plays reduced snaps and gets

842
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: to go nuts on every single play. Is unbelievable. Still

843
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: gonna play for Super Bowl with this third team? Now? Uh? Yeah.

844
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: The one thought is this is a trap? This is

845
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: that what this game was supposed This wasn't a competitive game.

846
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: You would have got a better game in Caffrey, a quarterback.

847
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. None of it would have mattered. It

848
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: didn't matter the game. Once you cannot throw the ball

849
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: down the field, it's over. At that point. They couldn't

850
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: throw up five yards at that point, it's over. So

851
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: there's there's nothing that you can do a receiver that

852
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: played quarterback, there's no one else on the team. You're

853
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: done done any quarterback. You've read a defense, like you

854
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: saw what happened in Denver when they threw that like

855
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: Kendall hint, hinting kid out there, like it was a

856
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: complete Yeah, yeah, I mean that's what it was like.

857
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: It was that type of level like it was. I

858
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: don't think they scored out Like mccaffick can probably throw

859
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: a ball sixty yards. I'm sure he can, but he

860
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: doesn't know what the hell he's doing in terms of

861
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: playing quarterback in the league. Like, it's just sucked. It

862
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: just sucked because we didn't you didn't get the game.

863
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: You didn't get the game. Is there a goat negative

864
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: or positive connotation in the NFL? The NFL for not

865
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: allowing for three quarterbacks to be active and you can say, well,

866
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: this never happens. I don't think the Niners have another

867
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: quarterback though, that's the crazy. Then then then they would

868
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: have been I mean they would have though if they

869
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: could have carried three, they would have, like you should.

870
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: This could have been my Hollywood moment, come out six

871
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: What if sixteen came out himself, Oh my god, like

872
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: a sixty seven year old San Montana came out there

873
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: and around, Oh my god. Then afterwards went with the monkey.

874
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah did you see that? Your boy? Get get out

875
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: of here? What's that would have been? Like if if

876
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: you ask fans, you could have quarterback from our paths,

877
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: like come back in to take this game over. It's

878
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: a landslide. Joe Montana correct, come on, even even even

879
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: full of hate Gibbey, who likes to just rain on

880
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: my parades, is like one game ball for that one.

881
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: Give it to Howie Roseman. That's a hell of a roster.

882
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: He's redone in six years. It's incredible. So fired a coach.

883
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: Quarterback dominates a power struggle like just it's like no, no, no,

884
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm the man. Actually I'm gonna run it. I'm the man,

885
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: And look at what I've built here. I mean it's

886
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: it's they've got to be the favorites. I know that

887
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: it opened with we don't need to a guest line

888
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: super Bowl line, like you can't help but see, so

889
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: I know they opened his the Chiefs open his favorites

890
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: because they're the Chiefs. And then it's like, no, there's

891
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: I think there's a four point middle if you got

892
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: it early. Well. The other thing that's kind of wild

893
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: about it though, like with Philly and I only hap

894
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: believe this, it's part of it's just stick. I think

895
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: everybody can kind of understand that. But like Philly doesn't

896
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: have to play the Niners to get to the super Bowl, Like, no,

897
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: they just went straight. They beat the Giants and they

898
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: beat the Niners and now they're in a super Bowl

899
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: maybe like me and you out there, Although I still

900
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: they can both be really really good and it's the

901
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: easiest path. They are loaded, easiest path to a super

902
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: Bowl never had to chase a game. That's the question.

903
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: If the Chiefs, who have are super Bowl tested, get

904
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: up on them, what does that look like? If if

905
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: they don't, Chiefs can still come back. But the Eagles

906
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: are they're pretty darn good. Jalen Hurts getting so low

907
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: for every snap is still cracks me up in the shotgun.

908
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: It makes me laugh every time. But he's so good

909
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: and explosive. And by the way, he still missed, Like

910
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: that's the thing. He had a couple of deep balls

911
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: that if he hits would have been a j Brown

912
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: like a d yard touch touchdowns. Yeah, by the way,

913
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: give a tacos l past four. Yeah, it's done. Great.

914
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: My quarterback is still in it. Give it. I'm still

915
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: in it. You're saying there's a chance. No, I'm not

916
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: saying there's a chance. There's no chance. That's all you've

917
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: got and you're down like a hundred points and he's

918
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: got Kelsey. I've got two Eagles, including Miles Sanders scored

919
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: two touchdowns last week. Mahomes ain't scorn Unver when the

920
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: Germans bomb Pearl Harbor. No, but we don't have those

921
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: non participants in that historical event, non participating again, your

922
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: toast brother, sorry sorry, Gibby said you're gonna win it.

923
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: I would think if the Bengals had won, I had

924
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: a chance, a good chance to win it. That was

925
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: the well Kelsey pick ends up saving me because the

926
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: because my Niner guys are all done. Yeah, I had

927
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: a ton of them. Yeah, you did McCaffrey's debo and

928
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: McCaffrey debo. I'm all I have left on my Eagles. Yeah.

929
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: But I got a nice I got I got some

930
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: nice stuff from Joey b Bengals and Chiefs. Game Ball.

931
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is the game ball. Yes, yes, I mean

932
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable. Um, and for all of the nonsense

933
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: around that, you know, like Romo with the Oh my god,

934
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: he did the most stupid Drexler Jordan's thing, Oh my god,

935
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: that was an embarrassment. When we relitigate history, you were

936
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: all old enough to remember Drexler Jordan's There wasn't a

937
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: single soul on the planet who thought Clyde Drexler was

938
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: better than Michael Jordan's note asssion discussion. Now, Jordan maybe

939
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: found some writer for The Oregonian who wrote it, and

940
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: then he said, I took that personally, but for there

941
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: wasn't anybody else in the sport of basketball in the

942
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: early nineties was like, I don't know, it's close. Was

943
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: a really really good, really nice player. He wasn't in

944
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: the vicinity of vicinity. Was he a joke. It wasn't

945
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: even on the Dream Team he was. He was on

946
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: the second, you know, he was on he was on

947
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: the first. So he was really good, but it wasn't

948
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: like he was. But nobody was going like so to

949
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: compare that's by the way, that tells you everything you

950
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: know right there is I've watched all those documentaries. I

951
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: don't remember he was on the Dream He wasn't even player.

952
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: He was like a non fact. The only reason I

953
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: did he was in that documentary because Jordan's like went

954
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: at him and Magic's like, Clyde, come with me, and

955
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: so that led with that that legendary Monica games. Um.

956
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, that was so like his analogy was off.

957
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: And despite all the point I was making though, is

958
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: Mahomes was he was going through a lot and he

959
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: played his ass off. And by the way, you saw

960
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: him big deep on that last run to get the

961
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: Jets because ver a fewer he tried to slide through

962
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: the pocket. He couldn't do it. No, he was like,

963
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: well yeah, in fact, just the drive before he try

964
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: slide through and he couldn't. But on that one, like

965
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: the season, I'm going it's one of those things that.

966
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure when you have an injury like that, once

967
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: you start running like you know you've got if you

968
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: you can't, you gotta go through it and just deal it.

969
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: Peel with that he did. I'm glad that Osa guys okay,

970
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: first of all, emotionally, very difficult for him, but like

971
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: it looked like his leg exploded on the sideline and

972
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: he tried to stop him. Don't seem small sidelines in

973
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City narrow. Looked like it felt like those bleachers

974
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: were right there. That was no, that was to the

975
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: that was to the team bench, right, I know, but

976
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: it felt like it was not a lot of space

977
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: between teams. I do think I remember it was. Yeah,

978
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: they're right on the field. It was tight, are on

979
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: top of you. The locker rooms even tighter. Oh my god,

980
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: I love that place. So I mean it's awesome. Go referees. Yeah,

981
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: just bad. Look again, I don't think they got screwed.

982
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: You can't blame it on him. It just was the

983
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: whole thing was for sure. But it was just a

984
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: tough fourth quarter. You say, the poor kid, come on, Yeah,

985
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: that's bad. Yea. It's one of those ones where like

986
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: you wish that there was like a spirit of the law,

987
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: like he's it's it's he's not, it's not malicious, he's

988
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: not trying to hurt. He clearly just lost place of

989
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: where he was on the field. Fine, yeah, it sucks, man,

990
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: It's a right call. I'm not suggesting it. I understand

991
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: all of it. I'm just saying, like, geez, that's how

992
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna decide the a f C because we screwed

993
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: that because I made a bone headed play. Sucks. It

994
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: sucks for him. Listen, it was very possible that we

995
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: were going to be saying that the Chiefs lost the

996
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: a f C Championship game because Patrick Mahomes just like

997
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: dropped the ball. Oh yeah, it can happen. Anybody try

998
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: to throw a passing. The balls went up in the

999
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: air and then bounce funny and he never got a back.

1000
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: That's wild. That was wild. It was alright. Position will

1001
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: breakdowns for us coming up next, we'll hit the offensive

1002
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,560
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1011
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: we center on the offensive tackle position on the roster.

1012
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: Jack Cocklan, who just signed a four year contract extension.

1013
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: James Hudson Jedrick Wills as well, both are unrestricted free

1014
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: agents after the season. Chris Hubbard is a free agent

1015
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: natural Tyrone Wheatley uh in there as well Joe hag

1016
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: on the reserve future list. Um, I'm gonna be real clear.

1017
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: I I just think this is about Jed Wills. He

1018
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: was a first round draft pick and after a very

1019
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: promising rookie year, the consistency that you want to see, Uh,

1020
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: there's times when it flashes great, but the consistency is

1021
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: not the way that you needed it to be when

1022
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: you draft somebody that high. Now, I think you're right,

1023
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: and I think that you know for Jed Wills. As

1024
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: you sit there and you look at you look to

1025
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: your your other tackle made as a two time first

1026
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: team All Pro. You're looking next to you your your

1027
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: left guards five straight Pro Bowls, a right guard back

1028
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: to back Pro Bowls, a couple of times second team

1029
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: All Pro, and Tonio has been first team All Pro.

1030
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: Your center, you know, had been so good with j C.

1031
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: Trader and then even this year at ethan Postic. He's

1032
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: the weak link right now in the Brown's offensive line.

1033
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: And now I think he's got a ton of potential.

1034
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: He just needs to decide does he want this to

1035
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: be his life? Does he want this to be his legacy?

1036
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: How bad does he want to be great? Uh? The

1037
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: half would be the first telling you think Jed Wills

1038
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: is more physically gifted than he was. And I was

1039
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: about to go into Canton on his first ballot be

1040
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: as of everything else that it took to be that great.

1041
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's the question for Jed Wills. Now

1042
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: you're in your fourth year, You're a guy who's looking

1043
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: to to get paid. Uh, and his play needs to

1044
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: reflect that. You're in a good spot in the sense

1045
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: that you've got two starting tackles and a third who

1046
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: started some games for you and James Hudson, who played well.

1047
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: He's going into his third year now and it looks

1048
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: like he's your swing tackle. Uh. You know, it's probably

1049
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: the end of Chris Hubbard's run here in Cleveland. You've

1050
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: got some guys that you've like Haig who's been in

1051
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: the league for a while and been with Pittsburgh, Tyrone Wheatley,

1052
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: who is the son of the great Tyrone Wheatley, who

1053
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: you you know, think of as a developmental guy. It

1054
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me see the Browns in the draft get

1055
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: another tackle that they feel they can develop, you know,

1056
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: try to find another James Hudson uh in this one.

1057
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: But that's kind of where you are. You've got your

1058
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: top three going into next year. The real question marks

1059
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: for you for you is Jen Wills? Can Jed Wills

1060
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: be great? Does? Does Jed Wills want to? And if yes,

1061
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: can he then execute upon that and be great. You

1062
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: come to a point um, whatever whatever you do in

1063
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: in life and whatever your stated profession is, and you

1064
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of of an aida athletic ability,

1065
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: you have a certain amount of of talent for it,

1066
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: a love for it, um, And then there comes a

1067
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: point where there's a threshold that you have to burst

1068
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: through if you want to be great. That's he's really

1069
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: at times can be really really great, and he's gonna

1070
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: be very good and solid, but consistently great. It's just

1071
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: not happening. Now. Here's the crazy thing. The dude's twenty three.

1072
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: He's going into his fourth year in the league. He's

1073
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: twenty three, so he'll turn twenty four in May. So

1074
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a long way to go,

1075
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: He's got a long way to go age wise, He's

1076
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: a very young prospect. Like there is a long road

1077
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: if he wants to if he wants to go that route,

1078
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: and he can make a great living being a left

1079
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: tackle for a long time. But he has it in

1080
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: it to be at a different level. And he's in

1081
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: a draft class with Thomas and Worse's works has been unbelievable.

1082
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: Works was picked after him. How many All pros for

1083
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: Tristan Worfs already? At least one, maybe two? I think

1084
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: that you know, you look at Jed Wills and you

1085
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: look at his rookie season. UH Pro Football Focus grade

1086
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: that season was seventy seven point six. That's the best

1087
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: of his career. Um, you know that year he gave

1088
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: up only four sacks, only twenty pressures total. This year.

1089
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, his grade was a little bit better than

1090
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: last year, but not much. He was penalized a lot

1091
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: more this year, uh than he was last year. He

1092
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: gave up more sacks. He gave up a career high

1093
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: forty one pressures, career high six sacks um. His efficiency

1094
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: the last two years is not where it was, you know,

1095
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 1: his first year, and so he has it hasn't been

1096
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: what you thought. But to your point, you know, in

1097
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: terms of the consistency, he plays a game against Tampa

1098
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: Bay this year that was unbelievable where he was absolutely

1099
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: elite and dominant, and then you go the next week

1100
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: against Houston and he gives up five pressures and has

1101
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: his lowest grade of the season. You look go back

1102
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: to Week five against the Chargers, who has good pass rushers,

1103
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: didn't give up a single pressure, second best graded game

1104
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: or third best grade game of the year. And then

1105
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: follows that up the next week against New England and

1106
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: he gives up a sack and six pressures. It's just

1107
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: the consistency, it hasn't been there. The flashes are there,

1108
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: and that's really I think the question for him. It's

1109
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: a question for this line, like, is he willing to

1110
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: put in the work when he takes the coaching from

1111
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: Bill Callahan, when he gets, you know, advice from from

1112
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: a guy like Joe Thomas, can he take that and

1113
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: apply that to his approach to the game. If the

1114
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: answer ultimately turns out to be yes, he has a

1115
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: chance to be a pro bowler. If the answer that's no,

1116
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: I think he can play in the league for a

1117
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: very long time. I'll probably make a very nice living,

1118
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: but he'll never be great. And I think that's that's

1119
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: that's where the Browns are at right now. And it

1120
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: was a tackle loaded draft in which Andrew Thomas was

1121
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: a second team All Pro this year. Tristan Worths was

1122
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: a second team All Pro this year. He was first

1123
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: team All Pro last year. UM. So his draft mates

1124
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: have shined as bright as you can shine. They've been

1125
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: noticed in the league for being elite. Um. Beckton even

1126
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: has been solid, hasn't he when healthy? Yeah? When healthy?

1127
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean look, Tristan, I mean, Jet has been good.

1128
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: It's just it's the consistency. It's the ability to string

1129
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: good games together, the ability to put together some dominant

1130
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: performances because they're there, We've seen them. It's just a

1131
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: matter of doing it consistently. Like when we went Week

1132
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: fourteen to Cincinnati, he didn't allow a single pressure. That

1133
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: was the second best graded game of the year. And

1134
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: that's a team that can absolutely get after it. Yes, yeah,

1135
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: so it's just do you have that in you week

1136
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: in week out, and he's just surrounded prose. You could

1137
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: not be putting a better position to succeed than the

1138
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: one that he's been then he's been put in. Gibby

1139
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: wants one word to describe our offensive tackles this past season. Solid.

1140
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: It's funny. I was going to go there too. Solid,

1141
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,959
Speaker 1: let's spectacular, solid fact or fiction. The Browns will select

1142
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle with their second round pick. I'd like

1143
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: to say fiction, but you never know. It feels like

1144
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: you got Jetty you just signed. I mean, you need

1145
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: that's at least two years with starters, have you. Second,

1146
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: it needs to be a dude, needs to be a contributor. Yeah,

1147
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: and you can't fill out the defensive line and speed

1148
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: receiver in free agency. No defensive Yeah, someone who can

1149
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: come in and play, make an impact and play on

1150
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: the on the either the defensive line, or I mean

1151
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: that could be an edge to like maybe it as

1152
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: an edge whatever, an edge or a tackle whatever or

1153
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: more receiver or speed receiver. Those are the those are

1154
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: the two things that have to be sorted out for

1155
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: this offensive line. Um, I couldn't agree more. Yeah, So

1156
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: that's that's where you are. You're you're in a good

1157
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: spot at tackle. You'd be in a great spot if

1158
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: Jedrick Wells realizes his h his talents and his abilities

1159
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: in plays to his full of both, then you're in

1160
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: a great spot at tackle. We'll take a look at

1161
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: the off season ahead for the Championship Sunday Losers. Coming

1162
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: up next, listen to Cleveland Browns Daily brought you by

1163
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio and a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1164
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by bally Bet, Coming

1165
01:02:36,440 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on FIFESPN Cleveland. Welcome in to Cleveland,

1166
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: Band Brown, Jailey brought you by bally Bet, Coming soon

1167
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: Ohio and a fifty ESPN Cleveland. The Championship Game Losers

1168
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: some big questions to be sorted out for both, although

1169
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: the biggest ones don't have to be sorted out for

1170
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: the Bengals, just yet. Let's start with them unrestricted free agents,

1171
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: most of them on their defense, Jesse Bates, Von Belle,

1172
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: Hayden Purse to tight end. Eli Apple will be gone,

1173
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: Jermaine Pratt so I J P. Ryan, Drew Sample, and

1174
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers. So they've got those guys. I do think

1175
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: that for Cincinnati. I think that Burrow is going to

1176
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: be such an attractive drawing people will want to play

1177
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: with him. Um and the fact that those receivers are

1178
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: gonna be there, they don't. They can start working on

1179
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: those extensions if they want to with those guys, all

1180
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: of them, but they don't. They don't have to. They

1181
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: can hit your thing. Uh um, hello, they can. They

1182
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: can wait that out. This is not this is not

1183
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: the off season crisis. But their window they headed next

1184
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: next year is like they want they want to have

1185
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: a good run this year. But that's von Ball, Jesse Baits,

1186
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: Eli Apple. That's three of your top four defensive backs.

1187
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: I think they're ready to be done with Eli App

1188
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: as they should be be my hunch, their forty four

1189
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: million under the cap, but they do have the Borough

1190
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: question going forward. They are um, they will have some

1191
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: major decisions to figure out, though, with with how they're

1192
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: going to do all of this with the two receivers

1193
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: in with Burrow. Yes, and my guess is they'll go

1194
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: chasing Burrow and let Higgins walk and they have to.

1195
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,919
Speaker 1: That would be a tough spot because Higgins is good.

1196
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: But he can be a one somewhere. I mean he

1197
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: showed that when Chase was out that he can for sure.

1198
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: For sure. It's a it's a embarrassment of Ridges, right,

1199
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: get interest in somebody with his size that you could

1200
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: just throw the ball up to down the sideline. Come on,

1201
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: that works pretty good. They'll have to redo the safety

1202
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: position obviously with Bell and Bates. But they just drafted

1203
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: the kid from Michigan last year. What's his name, uh,

1204
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: Dax Hill. Dax Hill out of Michigan. So he's they

1205
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: do have him in the first round, right, well, yeah,

1206
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: into the first round. Yeah. Yeah. And they've hit on

1207
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: their picks. Um, that's Victoban down there. He's done a

1208
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: good job. I mean, they've hit on their picks in

1209
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: the past. He couldn't play this because he was struggling

1210
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: in coverage, but he played a little bit in this game. Yeah,

1211
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: So they are in a pretty good position and Honestly,

1212
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: as long as they have borrow, they'll be fine. They'll

1213
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: they'll be able to build around it. And they're making

1214
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: they're making strides and the other things too. I mean

1215
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: that I will give them credit for this because they've

1216
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: had franchise quarterbacks before and really haven't done anything to

1217
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: take advantage of it in terms of the way the

1218
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: organization puts its best put forward. But Katie Blackburn, Um,

1219
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: Mike's Mike's daughter who has a big say in the

1220
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: organization now and is kind of the outward face of it. Um,

1221
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: she really has changed the perception of it. And her daughter, Katie,

1222
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: does a lot of stuff for them as well. Um,

1223
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: they've done a really nice job. I mean, they're they're

1224
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: working on they're getting an indoor facility finally, long last,

1225
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: they're spending in free agency. Um, they're taking advantage of

1226
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: the Burrow window, honest to goodness. Like if they wanted

1227
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: to read, if they wanted to do a new stadium,

1228
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: they won, But now would be the time on the

1229
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: Borough train. There's no question with him that he could

1230
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: have the type of impact in Cincinnati that Manning had

1231
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: an indie, Like you could build a dome if you

1232
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: wanted to, and there is. I mean, people think I'm

1233
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: talking nonsense about this. I'm telling you there is a

1234
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: race in this state somewhere to put a dome like

1235
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: you want to. You want to have events super Bowls,

1236
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: Final Fours, concerts, WrestleManias, you want to have Big Ten

1237
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: championship games and college football playoff games. I'm telling you

1238
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: right now, High State Buckeyes are not gonna play a

1239
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: college football playoff game at the Shoe. They're not. They're

1240
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: gonna go play it at Lucas Oil unless there's a

1241
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: place in this state to play it. You could do that.

1242
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: If somebody builds a dome, it's a race to do it.

1243
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: They're not gonna build it in Columbus because they can't

1244
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: do anything with the Shoe. So either Cincinnati or Cleveland

1245
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: get one belt let's go. Um. But they're in good spot.

1246
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: They're not They're not going anywhere. Nighters have got a

1247
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: lot going on in terms of what they're gonna do.

1248
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: Hug people. They got they got quarterback things that they

1249
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: gotta They got a quarterback thing. They got to figure

1250
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: out what they're doing. Now, you know the gangster, Yeah,

1251
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: what do you think he wants to do. I think

1252
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: he wants Trey Lance to be great. That's what I

1253
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: think he wants. I mean, they've made all that investment

1254
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: in him, but they also could think that, you know.

1255
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: It was so funny Glazer was yesterday was saying, you know,

1256
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: if Brock Purty, you know, has another good game and

1257
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: they beat the Eagles, that you know, Kyle and John

1258
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: Lynch might think he could be the quarterback next year.

1259
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: Which I was like, how's that they already have to

1260
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: think he could be? And he had lost. He hasn't

1261
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: lost the game that he's played healthy. How I mean

1262
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: early in the season. I don't recall I didn't I

1263
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: wasn't watching the Niners much earlier in the season. I

1264
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: know you pay attention to him when you could schedules

1265
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: ever worked out? How was Lance? He's not. He's not

1266
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: a guy that can, at least right now, operate this

1267
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: coret this offense from the accuracy and cerebral standpoint that

1268
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: Kyle would want. But he adds gives him a wholenother

1269
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: dimension with his ability to move and to run and

1270
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: and all of those things. But no, so he only

1271
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: played one full game. He murd against Seattle and that

1272
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: was it. So in the in the one full game

1273
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: and then a little against Seattle that he played, he's

1274
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: fifteen and thirty one a pick. It's un Uh. He

1275
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: ran sixteen times for sixty seven. It's a lot of running.

1276
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: It's a lot of running for that get back. Yeah,

1277
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: four yards to carry. Yeah. So Purty ends up on

1278
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: the season in the regular season. That perfectly explains it

1279
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: all passer seventy four thirteen touchdowns, four picks, Garoppolos. Honestly,

1280
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: what's amazing. Garoppolo and Purty basically mirror sixty seven percent

1281
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: for both of average yards eight point one seven point nine.

1282
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is about seventy five more yards per game, by

1283
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: the way, eight yards in a touchdowns, four interceptions. Yea

1284
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: for those two combined for Pretty Lance was Lance was

1285
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: six yards average. Um. The two combined, Garoppolo and Pretty

1286
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 1: combined for twenty nine touchdowns, eight picks combined. Yeah to

1287
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: two for Garoppolo game one two for Pretty a game. Um,

1288
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: but they'll have a full season of McCaffrey. They'll have Debot,

1289
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: they will have use Check, they will have Kittle, they

1290
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: will have Mitchell, they will have all of those weapons. Um,

1291
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: and they just they just got to get the quarterback

1292
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 1: they to me them and the Eagles clearly are the futures.

1293
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: AFC future bets would be on those two. Yeah, they

1294
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: gotta figure out defensively, Ward Gibson, Emmanuel Moseley. Uh, you

1295
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: know McGlinchey is a good tackle. They gotta get Robbie goldback.

1296
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: But this isn't like a a massive group here that

1297
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: their their core is untouched really in this Yeah, it's

1298
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: a good squad. I kinda figure out a quarterback and

1299
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: figure out what to do with it. And it does

1300
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: feel to me like they're always gonna have Brock Purty.

1301
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you do wonder I wonder it'd be

1302
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: interesting to see, like what's the temperature of that building?

1303
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: Like the players on the team you have. You have

1304
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: three different quarterbacks who played this year. I think Garoppolo

1305
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,520
Speaker 1: is out. I think that party can give them Garoppolo,

1306
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: So I think he's done. So where's he land? Great

1307
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: question is that the Jets anymore? With like the Floura gone.

1308
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the Jets. Is that Miami? It

1309
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: could be Daniel back up for to Uh yeah, as

1310
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: in sure two is still in concussion protocol. I know too,

1311
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: may not ever play. Said they are not interested in

1312
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: Brady because they're committed to to ah well for now,

1313
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: because he's he's but he can't. I mean, he's been

1314
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: in protocol for two months. Oh, I'm aware. It feels

1315
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: like it's a long time to be in concussion protocol.

1316
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, it feels like it's hard to imagine when

1317
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 1: like that he could play, You could ever count on

1318
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: him to play seventeen games for your team. It feels

1319
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: like it feels like a stretch at this point. Yeah, no,

1320
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: are you guys aware we'll get to the sound by

1321
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: seven a second? Um one? One last thing we probably

1322
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: could have talked about earlier with the Eagles that we haven't.

1323
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: Are you guys aware of the full scope of the

1324
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts career of the whole operation? So in sixteen,

1325
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: he is a true freshman at Alabama. He wins Southeastern

1326
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: Conference Offensive Player of the Year and Rookie of the Year.

1327
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: Alabama is undefeated, loses in the National championship to a

1328
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: guy you've heard of named DeShawn Watson on a last

1329
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: second throw to Hunter renfro Okay. So they played in

1330
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: backback national title games bamed one the year before Clemson

1331
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 1: got him. The next year, Clemson had the last possession,

1332
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: so that's his only loss. He's thirteen and one as

1333
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: a freshman. The next year they recruit two in behind him.

1334
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: He's a starting quarterback the whole year. He has benched

1335
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: at halftime in the National Championship against Georgia because he

1336
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: cannot throw the football effectively. They cannot throw it. Basically,

1337
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: think about this nowhere is there something did he come

1338
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: did to a come in earlier in the year. Did

1339
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: he get dinged up? Like no, no, that's wait, so

1340
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 1: so we bench, we bench hurt twa wins. It's the

1341
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: walk off to DeVonta Smith, by the way, right before

1342
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: that took one of the worst sacks you'd ever take.

1343
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,719
Speaker 1: That plays on third and forever and he hits DeVonta

1344
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: Smith for the walk off, right, celebrate together, decides to

1345
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: come back for the junior season. This is the famous

1346
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: Maria Taylor asking Nick Saban, and Nick Saban goes so

1347
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: quit asking what do you do with your two quarterbacks?

1348
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: And he's juggling him right, but they end up going

1349
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: with ta So Jalen Hurts signs up for it. He's

1350
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: the backup two. It gets hurt in the SEC Championship game.

1351
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts goes in, wins the game, beats Georgia in

1352
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game, came back behind him, they win it.

1353
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: They go back to the national title, get slumped by

1354
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Clemson out in San Francisco. He enters the

1355
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: transfer portal. There are two quarterbacks in the transfer portal

1356
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: that year. Jalen Hurts Justin Fields, Justin Fields coming off

1357
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 1: his freshman year at Georgia, Ohio States all in on Fields.

1358
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 1: Justin Fields was the passer of the two, so he

1359
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: was gonna fit into the operation. They's whispers that Jalen

1360
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: Hurts cannot throw the football and he's have to play

1361
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: another position. So where does the kid pick to go? Play? Quarterback?

1362
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley the best offense in the country with a

1363
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: quarterback Gurdu who had won the Heisman previous two quarterbacks.

1364
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: Do you remember the video of Jalen Hurts doing the

1365
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: squat in spring football and the whole He's got the

1366
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: whole team by their throw a weekend, so he's that

1367
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: that type of leadership within a week. Speaking of leadership,

1368
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: good god, it crispy white. Oh my gosh, the gorgeous khaki.

1369
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: That's the lights illumination, that's a little bit of shine.

1370
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: So so he finishes second in the Heisman at Oklahoma.

1371
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: He throws for yards, he rushes for more. It ends

1372
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: up a second round pick of the Eagles, and everybody said,

1373
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: what are they drafted him for? They went why they

1374
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 1: drafted him to be like a change of pace and

1375
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: never as much. And now look at him. Think of

1376
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: that voyage to get to quarterbacking in the Super Bowl

1377
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: against my homes and how about this a year ago

1378
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 1: at this time we weren't sure that he was the

1379
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: answer in Philly. We asked Spidero at camp Ken hurts

1380
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: throw it and then we don't know. I don't know.

1381
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: We'll see. There's a whole bet was on that, not

1382
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: to be fair, and I think accurate. He hasn't had to,

1383
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: but they built it around him. I just think it's

1384
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: an incredible story that the voyage from that standpoint to

1385
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: lose a job, to pick, to go to the hardest place.

1386
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Burrow in it, Like when Burrow

1387
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: went to L. S U. Nobody thought Burrow should go

1388
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: to L. S U. They don't develop quarterbacks. That's the

1389
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,560
Speaker 1: opposite because Hurts said, I got one year to be

1390
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: turned into a quarterback. Who's the best guy to do that?

1391
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:17,879
Speaker 1: But man, L s U did. People were people already

1392
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: aware of, like Jefferson and Chase and Marshal that like

1393
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: they were they had a special group. You're aware that

1394
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: L s U always has special groups. You weren't aware

1395
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: that it was Nobody would have known that it was

1396
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: Jefferson Chase. I mean they're like, yeah, you know that

1397
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: level receivers in the league. Yeah, you wouldn't have known

1398
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: that it was that. Um. It was a hell of

1399
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 1: a gamble though when Burrow went there, because nobody nobody

1400
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: comes out of L s U at quarterback, like they

1401
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: all that you will go there to die at quarterback. Yeah,

1402
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: like the one guy that came out that had Odell

1403
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: and Jarvis, like Zach Mettenberger. Mettenberger who transferred in from

1404
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: Georgia and he was garbage in the pros. Ye. Do

1405
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: people ever ask to your point, you know, to question

1406
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: a Nick Saban or to question the Buckeys like how

1407
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: did you guys have this wrong? Or how come you

1408
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: couldn't how could The question for Saban is more, why

1409
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: weren't you able to develop him as a passer? So

1410
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: saving the answer for that on Sabing is is that's

1411
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: not Saban's gig. He played his defense. He gives the

1412
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: offense that was probably have been Kiffen would have been no, no,

1413
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 1: Kivin was an f You probably been SARKI. Sark would

1414
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: have been the offensive coordinator at that time. So why

1415
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: did he not? And by the way, that still makes

1416
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: no sense that the Mannings gave their kid to him.

1417
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: Ridiculous um but his um, Yeah, it is. It's curious,

1418
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: like why could you not get this out of him?

1419
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: And Burrow was not going to be somebody as good

1420
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: as Jalen Hurts be benched and that much of a

1421
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: leader and all the rest of it. And Burrow was

1422
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: couldn't beat out Barrett Haskins, Haskins Well, Barrett first and

1423
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: then Haskin. So that's the kind that hard to believe

1424
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: that he could not beat out doing it, Like, it's

1425
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 1: hard for me to get my head around that. So

1426
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: it's too fold. So it's hurt. It's it was JT.

1427
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: Barrett first because Urban at that time they transition from

1428
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, a spread run quarterback Braxon Miller to JT. Barrett,

1429
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: Urban wanted run quarterbacks who would put their nose down

1430
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: and go get yards. And then they hired Ryan Day,

1431
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: and he wanted guys who could spin it. So Burrow

1432
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: would have benefited tremendously from that and would have been amazing,

1433
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: but at that time they so Burrow gets hurt the

1434
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: year before he transfers in April, he gets hurt in

1435
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: the in the preseason leading up to the season before

1436
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: Barrett gets hurt in the Michigan game. And Haskins goes

1437
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: lights out, goes too, drives incredible in the Michigan game.

1438
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: And so he had a little bit of a lead

1439
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: on Barrett going into spring because of that, and they

1440
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: basically fought to a standstill. And then Urban did a

1441
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: really stand up thing and said he named the starter

1442
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: after spring to give one of them the chance to

1443
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: go play somewhere else and be a starter. And so

1444
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: he named Haskins because they in part because they had

1445
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: seen Haskins in the Michigan game. Shine. Now, to be fair,

1446
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: remember that you would watch him throw the ball, and

1447
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: watch Haskins throw the ball and be like, I'd want

1448
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: to get back guy Haskins had a howitzer, So what

1449
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: though it's ugly dude, Haskins through for five thousand yards

1450
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: and fifty touchdowns was a Heisman finalist, so it's not

1451
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: like he didn't get it done. This we're talking about

1452
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, I understand, but you have to the context

1453
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: of it all was in college. They were very close

1454
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: and Haskins had more physical traits. That's how it happened.

1455
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: And by the way, it all ended up fine because

1456
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: Burrow goes to l s U does all the thing

1457
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: he does, Ohio State ends up Haskins fields both Heisman finalists.

1458
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: So it's it all kind of worked oddly. Thought. You

1459
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: feel like if you had Joe Burrow, you win a

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01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 1: national championship. Buddy, I do Joe when he was sixteen,

1461
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: Nobody thought that this is what it would be like.

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01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: It was his dominate. It was the combination of the

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01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State the way they put turn you into a

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01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: pro from a body standpoint, and then the coaching that

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01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: he got from day and then essentially when he got

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01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: to to l s U and his own yes and

1467
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: his own self belief, he believed in such a big way.

1468
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't know, like I think the chip

1469
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: at Ohio State helped him, like the fact that he

1470
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: didn't win the job, but he was not quin yours.

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01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: He wasn't like a five star guy. His only other

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01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: big time Division one offer was Nebraska and that's where

1473
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: his dad played. It was Ohigot State in Nebraska. It

1474
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: was like everybody was doing it. It's hard for me

1475
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: to fathom being around watching him throw the ball practice

1476
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: and I would be like, yeah, I don't want that

1477
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: guy to play for my team. They liked him a lot,

1478
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: but they had an embarrassment of riches at the time.

1479
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: Probably the bigger what if is why one of them

1480
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: didn't unseat Burrow going into or Barrett going into his

1481
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 1: senior year. That's probably the one. Because Haskins was great.

1482
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: He really was. At Ohio State was great, I gotta

1483
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 1: tell you. And when we want when we played them

1484
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: and I just watching him warm up, I thought he

1485
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: I was like, this is nuts. And maybe he was

1486
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: mentally fractured at that point, but I think he got broke.

1487
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: It was awful. Yeah, he was. I want to say

1488
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: his I think his college stats are gonna blow your mind.

1489
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 1: You just had five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns. Yeah,

1490
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 1: I think it was fun, Like did Burrow breaking his records?

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01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: No Burrow went. Burrows close to six thousand yards that

1492
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: year at L s U. And how many touchdowns? I

1493
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: think he was close to sixty. I mean, that's not

1494
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: that far away from five thousand. But Ben Haskins wasn't

1495
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: the record. I think the record was like, yeah, well,

1496
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: I think our guy we played this year for the

1497
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: Patriots and had it had it right zappy Yeah, Western

1498
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: Kentucky right, the Hilltoppers or something like that. I'm just

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01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: saying haskins season had to be one of the best

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01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: five best ever. Yeah, um, it was really good. Let's

1501
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: see what he ended up eightdowns year? Was that the

1502
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: same year No Burrows junior year? In fact, burrows junior

1503
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: year at L s U, you wouldn't have thought that

1504
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: he's this. It wasn't un till the second half of

1505
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: his junior year that he really took off. For Get

1506
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: that he was there for two years and his junior

1507
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: year was really like a lot of people, I'm like,

1508
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 1: I remember telling my buddies down there, I'm like, he's

1509
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: a dude, and people doesn't look like it's us. But

1510
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: then the second half Yeah, Burrow was fifty eight percent

1511
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 1: passer the first year at l s U sixteen and five.

1512
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: Um the senior year is the greatest single season in

1513
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: the history of college football. He's seventy fifty, seventy one,

1514
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: sixty and six. That's it. It's him and Cam Newton.

1515
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: Those are the two best seasons in the history of

1516
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: college football. They did it. Oh, I was just talking.

1517
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: I would say, Who's I just talking to about? Kim?

1518
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: Did you know Kim Newton was Joe Hayden's roommate at

1519
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: Florida their freshman years. I didn't, but I knew that

1520
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: they were there at the same time. And he he

1521
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: said he just didn't know how to like be a

1522
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 1: quarterback yet. But the guy was like unreal and obviously

1523
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to stay at Florida laptops. I felt

1524
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: like at that point a challenge to get yourself out

1525
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: of that program like that was kind of an accomplishment

1526
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: to be told that you could no longer compete there. Dude.

1527
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: They put Tebow with Hernandez. That was Tebow's roommate, Aaron Hernandez. Well,

1528
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 1: didn't the message didn't quit. All of Tim's good did

1529
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: not get through So we were talking about this when

1530
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: we were when we were with Joe, Like, if you

1531
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: were to play the greatest college football game ever, and

1532
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: you had every player ever, so you're gonna have two

1533
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: rosters play the greatest college football game ever. If Tebows

1534
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: starting for a team, isn't he or he's certainly in

1535
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: a room he was dominant, can we answer after the break? Yeah,

1536
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: we can answer after the break. Brown's Daily brought to

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1545
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: the college football conversations is you you it's hard to

1546
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: not be biased by their NFL career or lack thereof,

1547
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: So you're trying to remember what they were in a moment.

1548
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 1: And I think the best doppelganger for Tebow is probably

1549
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: like Tommy Fraser, who was the quarterback in Nebraska in

1550
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. Um, he won two national championships. The

1551
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: Nebraska teams the most dominant college football team of all time.

1552
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: It's insane. Their average scores beat six ranked teams average

1553
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,919
Speaker 1: margins like thirty a game. And that's not even hyperbole.

1554
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: Tom Osborne. Yeah, yeah, Lawrence Phillips didn't end well. I

1555
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: have the biggest guy from my high school constant team, Domtrescu,

1556
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 1: who was like a six eight three or fifty pound tackle,

1557
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: got recruited to Nebraska, and there did he go. He

1558
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 1: went in there heyday. He never amounted, he never played

1559
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: really anything of consequence. But well, there was a time,

1560
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean it was they won three national titles in

1561
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: a four year period. Um here's yeah. Their scores are crazy,

1562
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: so they be. They beat Oklahoma State twenty one, They

1563
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: beat Michigan State fifty to ten. They beat Arizona State

1564
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: seventy seven to twenty eight. They beat Pacific forty seven

1565
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: to seven. Washington States their closest game, they beat him

1566
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: thirty five to twenty one, Missouri fifty seven and nothing,

1567
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: Kansas State Colorado for one, Iowa State sev. Kansas forty

1568
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: one to three, Oklahoma thirty seven to nothing, and they

1569
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: be Florida for the national title six four. Their closest

1570
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: game was thirty one. So Frasier was the lynchpin of that. Um.

1571
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: He's that's the thing. The thing with Tebow is um.

1572
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 1: He's a three time Heisman finalist. You can with a

1573
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: straight face making argument he's the best college football player

1574
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: of all time. You could do that. I mean, he

1575
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 1: won it. He was the finals three other times. He

1576
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: was a part of two national championship teams they wanted.

1577
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 1: As a freshman, he was a role player they weren't

1578
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: when he was a junior, um when they had one

1579
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: of the most dominant teams of all time with Percy

1580
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: Harvin all those guys. So like his senior year, they

1581
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: are undefeated, they don't lose till they lose in the

1582
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 1: SEC title game to Obama. So like that's the he

1583
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: wins it as a sophomore. And yet like statistically, there

1584
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: isn't like the Borough Newton season, right right, there's not

1585
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: a season where it was like he was the orchestrator

1586
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: of some of the most talented college football teams we've seen.

1587
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: He was tremendous leader. He was a really good passer runner,

1588
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: but they were loaded, right, so you know, and he

1589
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: was a three year starter. He stuck Tebow's college. Yeah,

1590
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: it's actually better than I would have thought. It's good.

1591
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he has a four thousand yard

1592
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 1: passing season. I'm sure he's got a thousand yard rushing season.

1593
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: He's got no four thousand yard passing season. What's the closest?

1594
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: The best is uh sixty seven percent completions thirty three

1595
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: hundred yards nine point four an attempt, thirty two touchdowns,

1596
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: six picks. He had back to back seasons where he

1597
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: threw sixty two touchdowns ten picks, completed sixty seven percent

1598
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: of his passes, and in those two seasons he also

1599
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: ran for nearly two thousand yards and thirty five touchdowns.

1600
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable in the goal line. Two thousand and seven,

1601
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow sixty seven percent passing three thousand, three hundred

1602
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: yards nine point four an attempt, thirty two passing touchdown,

1603
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 1: six picks, rating one seventy two point five. He also

1604
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 1: ran for nine hundred yards and twenty three touchdown, so

1605
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: he has fifty fifty five touchdowns all on his own

1606
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: and then I mean everything in the red zone they

1607
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: gave it, just gave it to him inside the five.

1608
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 1: Here's one that's got I just looked up Jim Kelly

1609
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: at Miami. Not great, like totally different era, Like that's

1610
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: totally different. That's why this one stands out to me.

1611
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: Any Testaverdy was kind of a baller, Yes he was.

1612
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: They lost to Penn State in the National Championship game

1613
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 1: in the desert because that in the come they showed

1614
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 1: up in the fatigues and got drilled. Yeah, he was unbelievable.

1615
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: The two best, I think the two best college football

1616
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 1: season of all time are Newton and Borrow. Those are

1617
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:20,480
Speaker 1: the two, uh the argument otherwise, they both went undefeated

1618
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 1: in the SEC in the SEC West. Statistically they were monsters.

1619
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 1: They both won the Heisman. They both went to programs

1620
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: that historically, you could argue Cams is even better because

1621
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 1: he does not have Chase and Jefferson the Chase the

1622
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: Camp seasons unbelieving. Here's a crazy one for you. Frasier's

1623
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: best season, Tommy Fraser's best season. He completed of his

1624
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: passes the first career completions, forty three touchdowns, eleven picks,

1625
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: and he his best running season was seven four yards

1626
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 1: and nine. We had one year six four and four team,

1627
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: but not like you ever played in the second half

1628
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: and they ran. I mean it was it's wild. Um

1629
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: all right, Lots more to react to on this one.

1630
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: On the championship Sunday, uh start turning our attention to

1631
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: the super Bowl and a couple of weeks in the

1632
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: off season plans as well. The next level is coming

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01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,439
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