1 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Wednesday, February twenty fifth, 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I'm your host, Cynthia Littleton. I am 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: co editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Setuda. I'm 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: in la He's in New York, and Variety has reporters 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: around the world covering the business of entertainment. In today's episode, 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: we'll hear from Variety's Brent Lang as he unpacks his 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: latest cover story. It asks and it answers two big questions. 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Who is Josh Tomorrow? And what does the future look 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: like for Disney. But before we get to that, here 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: are a few headlines just in this morning that you 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: need to know. Lauren Hill, Pink Wu, Tang Clan, Luther Vandros, 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: and Shakira are among this year's first time nominees for 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: selections from twelve hundred voters for the Hall will be 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: revealed in April. Charlemagne the God's Black Effect Podcast Festival 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: is coming to Atlanta. The event is scheduled for April 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: twenty fifth. The event organizers promised that the Traveling Festival's 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: popular Pitch Your Podcast booth will be back. HBO has 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: renewed its high finance Drama Industry for a fifth and 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: final season. Metallica has set a residency at the Sphere 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. It'll run across the four weekends in October. 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: For some fans, nothing else matters. All of these stories 24 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: and so much more can be found on Variety dot com. 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: Right now, we'll turn to our conversation with Variety's Brent 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Lang on his cover story right after this message. 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: The Actor Awards presented by sag After are back and 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: live only on Netflix Sunday, March first, at eight pm 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: Eastern five pm Pacific. 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The Actor Awards 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: are live only on Netflix Sunday, March first, at eight 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: pm Eastern, five pm Pacific. 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: And now it's time for conversations with Friday journalists about 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: news and trends and show business. Brent Lang, Variety's executive editor, 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: joins me to talk about this week's Variety cover story, 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: published today in print and online. Brent Lang, thank you 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: so much for joining me. 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: Once we got the big news of the transition at 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: Disney on February third, you pretty much dropped everything and 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: started working on what is our cover story this week, 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: which is a profile of Josh Tomorrow, the new CEO 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: or will be on March eighteenth, and also a look 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: at the challenges opportunities that Disney faces. And we also 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: have an infographic that just looks at the vastness of 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Disney and looks at their key revenue drivers, their engines 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: of profit. CEO transition obviously is a good opportunity to 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: take a step back and look at the whole forest. 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: And so what let me ask you, what were some 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: of the surprising things that you found when you set 58 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: out on this story that had two prongs. Who is 59 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Josh Tomorrow and what's next for Disney? 60 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: Well, it was an interesting challenge, partly because Josh Tomorrow 61 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: did not participate in this story, but we were able 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: to really talk to a very wide network of people 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: who had worked with him over the years, of people 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: who were Disney adults, Parks enthusiasts, and I think we 65 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: were able to get a very interesting picture of this 66 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: person who is going to lead what's, you know, probably 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: the most complex largest media company going right now. And 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: I think what you sort of saw is that like 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: this person was almost like genetically engineered to be the 70 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: CEO of Disney. He just has this kind of wholesomeness 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: and this we said in the story, I think he 72 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: has this aura of affability that seem like really well 73 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: positioned to take over from Bob Iger, who had his 74 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: own kind of charisma. And I think when you look 75 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: at what didn't work with this succession with Bob Shapek, 76 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: a lot of that had to do with not that 77 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: Bob Shapeck wasn't a capable executive, but just he didn't 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: have that sort of it factor, that sizzle that you 79 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: know Disney CEOs historically have had to do it It's 80 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: a very public facing role for a corporate executive when 81 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: you're running a company. 82 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: Like this, Disney has that extra burden of being this 83 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: public brand in a way that even Warner Brothers are paramount, 84 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: or even Netflix, although Netflix does have a taste of 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: it because it has become now so synonymous with the 86 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: future of television. But Disney is imbued with Americana and 87 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: apple Pie and all of that good stuff, and you 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: do have to be showman tomorrow certainly seems well equipped. 89 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: And for so many years the studio was seen as 90 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: the absolute centerpiece and theme parks and other things were 91 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: more the spokes of the wheel. And that is really changing, 92 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: and I know that's hard for Hollywood to kind of 93 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: it's hard for Hollywood to absorb. How do you think 94 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: that the leadership transition all of that is going to 95 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: play out in terms of the changing fortunes of the 96 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: studio versus parks and experiences. 97 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think if you look actually at the most 98 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: recent quarter that Disney had, it's it's right there and 99 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: you know, kind of neon where you had the parks 100 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: division top ten billion dollars in revenue for the first 101 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: time in its history, and that was responsible, and it 102 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: was also responsible for seventy one percent of Disney's operating income, 103 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: and that came as the entertainment divisions profits declined by 104 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: thirty five percent and ESPN's operating income dropped by twenty 105 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: three percent. So obviously the heat and the growth of 106 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: this company is really in that experiences division and that 107 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: Josh oversaw, and I think that's partly why a Wall 108 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: Street is feeling fairly confident that he is still going 109 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: to be in a leadership role here, because they really 110 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: see that as the key driver of Disney's future success. 111 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: And a lot of that is just when you look 112 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 3: at the media business right now, it is so challenged, 113 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: It is so complicated to navigate this transition to streaming, 114 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: and right now people are feeling very good about tomorrow 115 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: and feeling very good about the qualities that he brings 116 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: to this role. But I think it still remains to 117 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: be seen if he will be the one to figure 118 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: out how to solve this kind of unsolvable equation, which 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: is just that cable for so long was such a 120 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: massive source of revenue and profits. The margins were so enviable, 121 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: and as a cable business declines in favor of streaming. 122 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: The streaming revenue has yet to replace the money that 123 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: was being made by cable, and nobody can figure this out. 124 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: They have not been able to figure out how to 125 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: kind of master this transition. So will Tomorrow and Dana Walden, 126 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: who has gotten a big promotion as well, be able 127 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: to do what others, you know, have not been able to. 128 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that remains to be seen and on. 129 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: That really hinges a lot of Disney's future. 130 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: I think to Disney's credit, to Bob Ayger's credit, he 131 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: pushed them to go for it with Disney, Plus, they're 132 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: in the best position of any of the legacy companies. 133 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: But it was somebody coined the term more than fifteen 134 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: years ago, and it's really held true. Hollywood is in 135 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: unenviable position of trading analog dollars for digital pennies. He questioned, Brent, 136 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: did you get a sense of Josh and his own 137 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: entertainment appetites? Like, obviously we know he's a theme park guy, 138 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: but did you get the sense he is somebody that 139 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: loves movies? Does he love music, does he love yoga? 140 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: Any sense about him? 141 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: I didn't get a sense in terms of what his 142 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: entertainment consumption is I got more of a sense of 143 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: kind of what he's like as a leader. I know 144 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: that he likes the Peter Pan ride at disney Land, 145 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: but I think what he's able to do is he 146 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: has a lot of emotional intelligence. For example, during COVID, 147 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: when everybody was working remotely, where he has a name tag, 148 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: he would actually write in the emotions he was feeling 149 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 3: that day. And he's been known to pick up trash 150 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: on Main Street at Disneyland. He knows the park guards. 151 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: When Disney had to lay off all of these cast members, 152 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: Josh actually went to the park and met with them 153 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: and allowed them to kind of vent and voice their frustrations. 154 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 3: So he has a lot of qualities that you would 155 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 3: look to in a leader. Now that said, he's also 156 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: been able to avoid a lot of the major controversies 157 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: that have kind of bedeviled Disney in recent years. Don't 158 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: say gay that whole explosion that really fell on shapek 159 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: or the situation with Jimmy Kimmel had to be handled 160 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: by Dana Walden and Bob So you know, it's unclear 161 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: kind of how he will handle that type of stress. 162 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: He's now Disney's chief executive in terms of dealing with 163 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis and Florida politics. I won't blow all of 164 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: your anecdotes, but your story does a great job point 165 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: of painting this picture of somebody who is a Disney lifer. 166 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: The other thing that's interesting is that when you look 167 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: at Disney as a brand, is still the kind of 168 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: preeminent brand. And when you look at sort of what 169 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: Bob Eiger did as CEO, a lot of that was 170 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: to reinforce that brand by going out there and amassing 171 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: as much intellectual property as possible. So that's why he 172 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: bought Pixar and Marvel and Lucasfilm, which controls Star Wars. 173 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: But I think what Tomorrow and Dana Walden face is 174 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: that that may not be enough anymore. When you look 175 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: at sort of how technology has changed, they're not just 176 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: facing competition from Comcast or Netflix or Warner Brothers. They're 177 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: facing competition from YouTube, which is where a lot of 178 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: younger viewers who might have gone to Disney you might 179 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: have gone to the Disney channel and previous generations are 180 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: increasingly spending time. And then they also faced a problem 181 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: of AI, which is definitely lowering costs and could lower 182 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: costs for Disney and its very expensive animation that it produces. 183 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: But it also means that it's leveling the playing field 184 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: so that somebody could theoretically create an animated product without 185 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: the backing of a major studio that is as popular 186 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: and as compelling as anything that Disney's produced to this and. 187 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean they are even tiptoeing into that with their 188 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: licensing agreement with open Ai and their Sora platform. The 189 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: challenges of Disney and all the other transition that's going 190 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: on at the studios are immense, absolutely immense. I think 191 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: we cannot discount that. So no shortage of things for 192 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: us to cover. And Brent, really thank you for doing this. 193 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: You've painted a real full picture, very fair, very clear eyed, 194 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: but illustrating the challenges of leading the company at this time. 195 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 3: Well thanks for having me, and I have to say 196 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: it was a really interesting experience to get to report 197 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: on him. 198 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: As we close out today's episode, here's a few things 199 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: we're watching for don't miss my colleague Ethan Shanfield's great 200 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: feature published this week in print and online about his 201 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: adventures at an open casting call held last week for 202 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: Fox's reboot of Baywatch. He takes a Plimpton esque journey 203 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: through the hopes and dreams of hundreds of aspiring actors 204 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: who turned out on a Wednesday morning in Marina del 205 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: Rey in Ethan's Hands, You Won't Forget It. Friday brings 206 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: season eight of Netflix's Formula one docuseriies Drive to Survive. 207 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: It should be a dramatic ten episodes as it covers 208 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: the big move by superstar driver Lewis Hamilton from Mercedes 209 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: to Ferrari last year. Friday is also the night when 210 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Cutters celebrate their own. Variety's Jazz Tanke will cover the 211 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: Ace Eddie Awards ceremony honoring excellence and film and TV editing. 212 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: We love to hear from listeners, so please send thoughts, 213 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: pripes and other feedback about Daily Variety to podcasts at 214 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Variety dot com. Before we go, congrats to Karen Horn. 215 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: She's been named executive director of the Writer's Colony talent 216 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: development program supported by showrunner Mara Braka Kiel. Horne previously 217 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: worked as a diversity, equity and inclusion executive at Warner Brothers, 218 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: Discovery and NBC Universal. Thanks for listening. This episode was 219 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: written and reported by me Cynthia Littleton, with contributions from 220 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: Brent lang Stick Snick's hick Picks. Please leave us a 221 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: review at the podcast platform of your choice, and please 222 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: tune in tomorrow for another episode of Daily Variety.