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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and

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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame,

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Speaker 2: Mike Rabol.

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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 3: Please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian coy Or.

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Speaker 4: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number

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Speaker 4: one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Good to be home, Good to see you guys.

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Speaker 5: Great great great challenge of the Dolphins health team.

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Speaker 6: That was the healthy too and everything else just the

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Speaker 6: players who saying that's today just fast, fast and faster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we talked about.

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Speaker 5: One word to you know, describe this team fast so

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Speaker 5: and then a fishing offense, especially with too of back there,

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Speaker 5: they can do, you know, run the ball very well.

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Speaker 5: Team that likes to run the ball outside, throw the

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Speaker 5: got to work cut out for us. He's able to

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Speaker 2: So when you play teams like Miami the rams in

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Speaker 6: To handle all that motion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of it is really eye can emotion.

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Speaker 5: So it's just trying to get you, uh, to really

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Speaker 5: and it's good amount. I mean it's going around the

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Speaker 2: But you mentioned the speed of Miami's offense. It seems

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Speaker 5: based off of you know, our personnel, which you know,

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Speaker 5: So that that's a part of uh, you know, game planning,

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Speaker 6: You mentioned personal change this week to week and you've

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Speaker 4: With in your first year, suppordinator.

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Speaker 6: When you look back to week one, what are a

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Speaker 4: What do you understanding the turnal versus these historically kind

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Speaker 3: That's one of the those giants players.

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Speaker 5: Every week we talk about ball destruction, and we talked

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Speaker 5: And then really it's about when we secure the tackle,

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Speaker 3: Do you like Marcus jos on offense? Great?

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Speaker 5: I mean talk about people talk about Travis Hunter that Marcus.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys have to talk about that at all?

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Speaker 2: It comes to game tackling and fighting and punching at

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Speaker 3: Do you feel there's still room for improvement?

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Speaker 5: Just we talk about sacks, all right, all right, you

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Speaker 5: not really trying to get our guys to play out,

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Speaker 2: That practice now and it's just out there, what do

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Speaker 1: The active out there and playing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's done a good job in his

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Speaker 3: It's a successful life product people a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: What his player, Uh you think.

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Speaker 6: Back to the takeaways, just you know, as you guys

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Speaker 4: You also want more turnovers. Have you considered or enacted?

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Speaker 6: And he changes midweek to practice meeting something to maybe

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Speaker 5: Again, I think we focus on a good amount of

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Speaker 3: Right, create takeaways.

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Speaker 5: That's always part of the keys, and we focus on

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Speaker 5: And yeah, we definitely want takeaways.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the key.

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Speaker 5: We want to take aways because a lot of the time,

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Speaker 3: Whatever released the.

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Speaker 5: Of having in and out there and that definitely thankful

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