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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names.

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Speaker 2: I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation,

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Speaker 2: Highlight Reel starting now.

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Speaker 3: Now. Brian Hoyd talks about what it was like backing

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Speaker 3: up Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: You know, New England.

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Speaker 2: There's fifteen personnel groups, so you have to like remember

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Speaker 2: where you and you change on everything and then the

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Speaker 2: formations and then all the concepts, and so for guys

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Speaker 2: like us undrafted seventh round, like you couldn't afford to

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Speaker 2: fuck up a rep us right, like, or you thought

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Speaker 2: you were getting cut and there were so little reps

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Speaker 2: for us that like you had, it was a Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl anytime you got a rep in practice when the

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Speaker 2: big dogs were watching, that's right.

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Speaker 4: And I remember being in there like like laid OTA's

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Bill puts

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Speaker 4: me in with the first team offense and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: holy shit, Moss, Ben Watson, Welker like all these guys,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, don't fuck this up. And I remember

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Speaker 4: we ran like a like shake rout and I hit

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Speaker 4: Ben Watson up the scene and I was like and

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Speaker 4: I was like all right, and you almost forget like

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Speaker 4: you got to go to the next play, but you

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Speaker 4: were like that was kind of a welcome the NFL moment.

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Speaker 4: Here I am undrafted, working my way up and out

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Speaker 4: of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't plans. You're in there with the big dogs.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's one thousand and well, people don't people

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Speaker 2: forget you know who the quarterback hoy beat out to

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Speaker 2: be the backup Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 4: He's doing a tremendous job about him. He's done an

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Speaker 4: amazing job. I don't know how much. I mean, clearly

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Speaker 4: with Fox you're probably staying up on this, but just

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Speaker 4: seeing the behind the scenes interaction he has with his team,

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Speaker 4: like that's the type of coach you want.

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Speaker 1: To play for. He was always like that.

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Speaker 2: He was always I remember because we used to hang

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Speaker 2: out and meet him Slate, Wendy, you would come in there,

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Speaker 2: but it was still a little weird with the backup

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Speaker 2: you got, you know what I mean. So I had

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Speaker 2: different groups, you know, and he was always really great

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Speaker 2: at like the camaraderie of the group, which is so important,

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Speaker 2: and the mental toughness. I don't know how it was

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Speaker 2: in your guys' room, but like he knew he wasn't

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Speaker 2: better than you. I remember I don't know if he

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Speaker 2: thought I thought, but I don't think there was any

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Speaker 2: like animosity animosity between you guys, and that takes a lot,

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Speaker 2: and that's shown in his coaching that, you know, that

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Speaker 2: mental toughness to do what's best for the team. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy that he just got rid of Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: who had fourteen wins.

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Speaker 1: I know. And that's a lot of belief, and that's.

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Speaker 2: Mental toughness, that is, it's mental toughness believing what's best

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Speaker 2: for the team's right, what he thinks, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 4: No, it was Kevin was great and thankfully we still

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Speaker 4: have a good relationship and talk from time to time.

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Speaker 1: But quarterback room is unique. Only one guy gets to play,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably the one room where things can

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Speaker 4: be really tight and really good, or there's there's times

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Speaker 4: where it can be a little friction, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, and you try to just handle the best

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Speaker 4: way you can. I'm a non confrontational person by heart,

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Speaker 4: so I always want to make sure I get along

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Speaker 4: with the people in the room and do the best

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Speaker 4: you can to do that.

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Speaker 2: No, I always explain to people the what I think

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Speaker 2: the role of the backup quarterback is and I always

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Speaker 2: bring it to you, like when Hoyer was a backup

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Speaker 2: to be ready to play. It's like a shoulder for

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Speaker 2: Tom to lean on, a guy that he can talk

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Speaker 2: to with his problems. Like, it's a whole different dynamic.

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Speaker 2: It's like you have to be a you have to

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Speaker 2: put so many different caps on as a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He's got to get the scout team going, he's got

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Speaker 2: to make sure that the coaches are given the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Like there's so many communication levels. Can you explain, explain

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Speaker 2: that dynamic backup quarter I mean.

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Speaker 4: I look at this my time backing Tom up in

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Speaker 4: two separate eras really because the first three to four

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Speaker 4: Jules and you mentioned beating out Kevin O'Connell, like that

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Speaker 4: was the year after Tom come back from this huge

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Speaker 1: I was ready to play.

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Speaker 4: Yea, It's just I mean I look back at how

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Speaker 4: little I knew where I was. Fundamentally, My fundamentals weren't

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Speaker 4: ended up being the back. But those first three to

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Speaker 4: four years, I didn't really do much for Tom. I

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Speaker 4: mean I was just learning, just just soaking it all in,

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Speaker 4: and you know, it was more like just be ready

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Speaker 4: you know, I go off, I play a lot of football,

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Speaker 4: different teams, learn about myself as a player, get better,

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Speaker 4: And then came back in twenty seventeen and I felt

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Speaker 4: like I actually could provide some assistance to him, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: when I was playing in San Francisco, we ran this

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Speaker 4: play or you know, I really learned about his own

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Speaker 4: coverage from Kyle Shanahan, like you know, this is how

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Speaker 4: that Seattle three is trying to play. And we had

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Speaker 4: a different relationship at that point, which was great, But

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Speaker 4: you're right like at that point he was.

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Speaker 1: A little bit older.

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Speaker 4: Remember I was practicing almost every Wednesday, sometimes Thursdays, which

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Speaker 4: that made me really believe that I'd be ready to

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Speaker 4: play if I had to. But it was a different

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Speaker 4: role then. It was more it was less like mentor learning.

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Speaker 4: It was more like I'm here with him and I'm

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Speaker 4: helping with ideas that he's coming over the sideline, what'd

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Speaker 4: you see on that play? I didn't really get that

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Speaker 4: a lot, you know, first three years of my career

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Speaker 2: You know, it reminds me a lot like with with

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Speaker 2: that situation. It's like a head coach that gets fired

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Speaker 2: that becomes a dc OC on a team. It's so

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Speaker 2: great for that head coach that hires him to be

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Speaker 2: able to bounce ideas off each other because he has

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Speaker 2: experience of running the ship. He knows through his experience

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Speaker 2: of different situations, which you had that experience as a

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Speaker 2: played him like this, you know, that's just such a

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Speaker 2: huge help for a quarterback. Information is gold, and that's

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Speaker 2: what you were when I when I saw you as

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Speaker 2: a backup, you had great information. Whenever there was like

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Speaker 2: that whatever, Like the offense still clicked.

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Speaker 1: We can still get work done.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was a fucking we couldn't get

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Speaker 4: And early on I don't know if you remember this,

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Speaker 4: And it was late in November early December. It was

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Speaker 4: is the first this I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: That's when he fucked his thumb up.

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Speaker 4: But this is like our rookie look year and Tom

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Speaker 1: And I went out there.

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Speaker 4: I probably completed fifty percent of the passes and we

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Speaker 4: get We pull up the team meeting after practice and

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Speaker 4: Bill's like, where's Hoyer And I'm kind of linger in

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Speaker 1: I walk for it.

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Speaker 4: He's like, how do you expect our team to have

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Speaker 4: a good practice when you come out here and completely.

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Speaker 1: Suck it off? And I was like, oh shit.

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Speaker 4: But it was literally like one of those practices where

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Speaker 4: you went to throw a go ball and the wind

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Speaker 4: just carried it out of bounce yea. And it was

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Speaker 4: not my finest moment, but that was probably one of

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Speaker 4: the first times I ever had to step in for

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Speaker 4: Tom to your point, you go back and now I

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Speaker 4: come back in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: That was what I had been accustomed to.

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Speaker 4: I've been a starter in three different places, so I

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Speaker 4: which you know, that was It was great work for me.

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Speaker 4: It was great for Tom to get the rest he needed,

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Speaker 4: the recovery. And to your point, I never wanted practice

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Speaker 4: to take a step down. Yeah you can't. Was it

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Speaker 4: the most Bill ever gave you something? Was that like

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Speaker 1: I mean there was a few in those in those

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Speaker 4: Remember Tom broke his middle finger messing around Isaiah's standback

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Speaker 4: But you know there was Alex working on it, and

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Speaker 4: the next day I was doing in Miami.

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Speaker 1: I know, I was.

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Speaker 4: Doing an event at Rebok, like a charity event, and

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Speaker 4: some reporter was there. It was like, hey, we saw

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Speaker 4: Tom's was on the injury report, like did you think

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Speaker 4: you were gonna have to play? And I basically said, like,

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Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna be ready to go. Blah

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Speaker 4: The next day in meetings, Bill's like, why don't you

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Speaker 4: just let Tom speak for himself and you just worry

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Speaker 4: his body? Do you know how his finger felt? And

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Speaker 4: so I mean you learn real quick. I mean, hoy,

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Speaker 4: if anyone would be in Tom, no, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: it would be harder. There's a look, I didn't follow

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Speaker 4: him out to California. Look, there's not two people more

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Speaker 4: who followed Tom around more than you and I. And

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Speaker 4: like I said, I think it was a wise that

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Speaker 4: we played thousand forever you. I mean, I learned so

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Speaker 4: much and was able to implement it when I played,

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Speaker 4: which is why I played as long as I did.

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Speaker 4: You became you know, his go to receiver, the guy

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Speaker 4: he trusted super one VP.

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Speaker 1: So uh, those were wise business decisions.

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Speaker 4: People can hate on us all they want, but I

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Speaker 4: think the resumes speak for themselves. And to your point,

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Speaker 4: when when you're in a spiring athlete. You find someone

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Speaker 4: who's doing it the right way. And luckily for us

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Speaker 4: it wasn't just Tom. We had guys like Matt Light

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Speaker 4: who I know you had in here, Kevin falk Bruski.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so many guys that we could watch as

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Speaker 4: young players and say that's the right way to do

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Speaker 4: it one thousand percent.

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Speaker 2: What's it like watching with Tom? What did you take

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Speaker 2: from learn Like watching film in the quarterback room with

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady that you took on when you became a starter,

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Speaker 2: or that you used when you were a backup or anything.

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Speaker 2: How was film session with Tom Brady? It's a It's

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Speaker 4: He's like, don't waste your time with that. Their offense

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Speaker 2: Completely the differences between the Charlie Weiss system that evolved

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Speaker 5: All that.

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Speaker 4: We could turn this into afore our show if we

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Speaker 4: But the thing about the Patriots system, it really put

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Speaker 3: True bloodsiall compares to the different coaching styles that he

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Speaker 2: You played for Parcels, you play with Carol, you play

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Speaker 1: How did that go? Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: It's it's it's interesting because like, of those of those

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Speaker 1: It's crazy they're all going to be They're all Hall

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Speaker 5: I mean, Pete's gotta go in the hall. And I

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Speaker 2: Know, he had a lot of success for anyway.

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Speaker 5: Like but three, like you know, historically great coaches. You know,

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Speaker 5: whether Pete gets in or not, I hope he does.

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Speaker 5: Pete's the one that I feel bad for in that equation, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: obviously it turns into Bill Yeah, but but just you know,

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Speaker 5: you know, so like the great coaches, it's it's all

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Speaker 1: I only played one coach. You only did you guys

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Speaker 5: You know I had eight coordinators in fourteen years.

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Speaker 1: She had too. Jesus, I have Billy Oh and fucking

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Speaker 1: and mc d's. He was there last night. Billy Oh

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Speaker 5: Did I I saw Billy all last night? I don't

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Speaker 1: Billy Oh was talking about my boy Jack bro.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he saw me.

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Speaker 3: But like when I came over this morning, you told

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Speaker 2: He was like, where's Jack. I'm like, I didn't know

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Speaker 3: I'm a BC fan now, baby.

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Speaker 5: And so yeah again, you know, I just I'd only

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Speaker 5: Parcels is all Jersey. Yeah, he was funny as hell

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Speaker 5: Like like he he was. He had some good material,

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Speaker 1: Experience, unless you're a defensive player. Oh well, there you

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Speaker 7: Yes, you could get the CFL game. You could get

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Speaker 2: It just would have been onc Lions. You know, still

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they took rights.

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Speaker 2: Know, and we'll get into the game. But we were

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Speaker 1: In three quarters? Huh? In three quarters? In three quarters?

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Speaker 1: Everyone always says that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean. You know, different comes

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Speaker 2: Yes, no doubt, I'm five eight okay, but regardless, watch

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Speaker 2: shut out pizza. I love you, but you watch this

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Speaker 1: It was the hardest thing. But if you watch this,

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Speaker 7: Later in the game, two huge third downs in the

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Speaker 7: fourth quarter, I think Gerard put his foot the ground

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Speaker 7: round the corner round.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just like he started in.

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Speaker 7: The guy was chasing Boom, took off and uh. And

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Speaker 7: it's amazing to me to think that. I was so

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Speaker 7: relaxed at that time that I saw it. You know

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Speaker 7: that you see you know it's it's three D zone.

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Speaker 7: You're thinking, I got the post in comedy, I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: go in down to the underneath route, right. It wasn't

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Speaker 7: that way. I saw that guy chasing him. Gerard saw

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Speaker 7: him chasing. I waited Boom. He went through the corner round.

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Speaker 2: Meg, that's what they call him Meg, where they locked

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Speaker 2: the guy on him.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever consider changing positions when you when you

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Speaker 2: left college or did people ask you to change positions

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Speaker 2: because you're ridiculous athlete?

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Speaker 1: Not when I.

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Speaker 7: Left college, but when I came to BC, there were

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Speaker 7: four upper classmen ahead of me.

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Speaker 1: Gerard was my roommate.

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Speaker 7: He's already seen Hi playing time as a receiver on run, situation,

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Speaker 7: special teams. He's on the field. I'm not really on

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Speaker 7: the field. My first place at BC were pucker turned

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Speaker 7: I uh opening day against A and m I'm back

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Speaker 7: there fielding puns. You liked that, But it was like

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Speaker 7: I was very close to going and said, hey, moving

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Speaker 7: to a receiver because I knew I thought I was

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Speaker 7: a better athlete than some of the guys that were

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Speaker 7: on the field.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I know I can be on the field.

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Speaker 1: I'm not on the field now.

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Speaker 7: And I was a step away from asking at DC

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Speaker 7: to move to because they were upper Now none of

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Speaker 7: the guys actually actually Matt Ryan's uncle, John Loffery, was

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Speaker 7: the original starting quarterback. He tore attendant in his thumb,

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Speaker 7: and then the other two guys got a chance to play,

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Speaker 7: didn't play well. I finally got into a game and

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Speaker 7: at Penn State and lit it up and was off

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Speaker 7: and running.

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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ever want to put flut in. But when

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Speaker 1: you put flute in, you're always gonna win.

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Speaker 3: Now, Matt Leonard describes his high expectations that he faced

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Speaker 3: when entering the NFL.

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Speaker 2: That's got to be crazy for you, a guy that

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Speaker 2: comes from the most talented team. Yeah, probably in college

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Speaker 2: football history at those at that time.

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Speaker 1: Then going to a team we.

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Speaker 8: Had so we had we had Larry and we had

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Speaker 8: an Kwon, and that's we had two of the best

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Speaker 8: to ever do it. Larry certainly and then and Kurt

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Speaker 8: was there who eventually resurrected his career. We weren't, I

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Speaker 8: mean we were. We had some good players that year.

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Speaker 8: We had Like even my rookie year, I played pretty

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Speaker 8: well and we were like, okay, and then I heard

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Speaker 8: my AC the last game of the year against San Francisco,

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Speaker 8: but yeah, and it was like mile and Alex Guerrero

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Speaker 8: took care of me. But it was like grade two,

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Speaker 8: so but I was it was like I think it

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Speaker 8: was a second to last game. So but I was

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Speaker 8: playing well whatever, and then okay, then the off season,

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Speaker 8: then Danny gets fired, new coaching staff comes in, and

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Speaker 8: that's where for me personally went all downhill. So like

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Speaker 8: to get drafted there was one thing, but like showed

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Speaker 8: a lot of promise. And then that second year, I

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Speaker 8: was coming off the injury, so I didn't really have

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Speaker 8: a good offseason. And then I was I was OTA's

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Speaker 8: I was finally healthy and stuff but it just it

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Speaker 8: just was like from the get go, just this dude,

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Speaker 8: and like you know you've been around coaches like you

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Speaker 8: just I was screwed from day one. I felt like

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Speaker 8: and again I didn't help myself at times, but like

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Speaker 8: there was nothing I could do.

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Speaker 2: Right. That's tough when you're it was first quarterback that

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff gets fired. Who probably went on you know,

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Speaker 2: on the table for you, and then all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden they're bringing in someone else and it's it's almost

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Speaker 2: like they can't. They're like, we got to go somewhere

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Speaker 2: else because it buys that coaching staff more time.

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Speaker 8: Well, and we had Kurt Warner who had already won

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Speaker 8: a Super Bowl, So like two Glove Kurt Warner at

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Speaker 8: the time.

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Speaker 1: Two gloves I went to.

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Speaker 8: At one point I went to two gloves because this dude,

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Speaker 8: I was pissed, like, so I got I was there

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Speaker 8: four years, so like year three, so year two we

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Speaker 8: split time. The first six games, I broke my collarbone out.

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Speaker 8: For the year year three we had a duel. He

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Speaker 8: beat me out, and then that's the year we went

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Speaker 8: to the Super Bowl. But that was also the year

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Speaker 8: where I'm like, so he was two gloves always, and

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Speaker 8: I'm like, dude, you're through me because he would use

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Speaker 8: brand new balls and those brand new balls, I couldn't

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Speaker 8: throw a brand new ball, and like, I don't have

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Speaker 8: I have big hands, but I don't have super big hands.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, dude, you're gonna make me go to gloves

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Speaker 8: due cause I couldn't. Like, he did not give a shit,

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Speaker 8: and I try to get him, like, hey, can we

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Speaker 8: get some of these old balls in there and just

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Speaker 8: like this in case I have to go in and

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Speaker 8: he was like hey, whatever, but most of them were

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Speaker 8: so I went to two gloves a couple of times.

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Speaker 8: I felt like an idiot. I actually threw the ball

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Speaker 8: right in it, but I was like, what are I

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Speaker 8: come on, dude, I look I already look bad enough

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Speaker 8: in my uniform. You're gonna make me wear these nasty

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Speaker 8: ass nikes.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.

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