1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, maybe is not in today? What is she doing? 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 3: I don't know. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: Probably momming, momming, oh, momming. Man, it's just trying to 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: figure out the rest of the year. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: It's almost Christmas. Way, when do you holiday shop? 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: I've kind of started a little bit. I'm a little 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: disappointed in myself. Usually I'm done with your library and yeah, yeah, 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: have you started? Nope, I have a list going. But 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: it's it's one of those things too, where I feel 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: like my kids are getting out of the toy stuff, 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: so now I don't know really what to get them. 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Like Jay still likes toys. He loves Deadpool, even though 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: he's never seen Deadpool, so I don't know how that 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: one works. But I and then the thing now with legos. 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: They love legos, but they don't actually put them together. 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: They just want all the pieces. So I just have 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: like big drawers of like all these Lego pieces and 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: so and I'm just like, what do you guys want 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 2: from Sanna? It gets hard. 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: It's like clothes and girls skincare and all the things. Yeah, 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Ramsey basically only still plays with like slime. 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: Oh we've never had slime in the house, so, oh wow. 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: I've actually tried to it. Yeah, but I always give 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: in no. Yeah, yeah, no slime here. Uh well that's 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: nice slime. Yeah, I uh. Jolie wants she does want 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: a drum set? Oh wow, yeah? Have you had one? 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: A drum set? 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: For some reason, I was thinking y'all had one once 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: upon a time. 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: Nope, no drum set. We'd like like one of those 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 2: little babies, right right right, but yeah, yeah, that sounds 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: awesome for nap time. Yeah. Well, we have like their 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: little music room as their secret room. Now, okay, so 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: they have these you know those things I used to 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: play in school? What are those things? Flute? 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: Uh? 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: That is only allowed in the secret room. 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: That is probably the most annoying thing ever. Yeah, they 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: have to do them in school. One of the years 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I can't even remember in the school, I think it is. 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: I think so Emmy's already done it and Caden's already 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: done it. Terrible, it's awful. Yep, like you're doing great. 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: Goat were two of them somehow. I don't know why 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: you appeared in our house, but they're in. I've just 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: now designated that because that was what they kept playing with, 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: and I was like, all right, to the music room 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 2: you go. You probably can't hear them in their house. No, 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: I can't hear anything. Oh that's nice, that's drums are 51 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: going for Christmas. But yeah, it's just the problem is 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: is on when we were building. When I was building 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: the house, the plans, that room looked so much bigger, 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: and it is truly just a glorified closet. It is 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: the size. It's a small closet. It is pretty small. 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: So I'm just like cool. I don't know if you 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: get like a fool, I mean idea. 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: I know. 59 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna we have to get a truck. 60 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: I guess we're going to get a truck for Christmas 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: for my son. What I mean car, Well, he's turned 62 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: sixteen in March. I want him to have it for 63 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: a little while to drive it before he gets his license. 64 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: So see the job. Yeah he seasonally he refs, Oh 65 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: that's right, Yeah, it's funny. My ex was telling me 66 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: a funny story the other day at soccer. He was 67 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: saying how the ref is around Cayden's age and was like, hey, 68 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: I had a rough night last night. Is anyway we 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: can make the quarters eight minutes out of ten And 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: he's like no, the ref asked that, yeah, this is 71 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: like the sixteen year old roff. He's like, no, sorry 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: about your long night. That's hilarious. I was like, yeah, no, kidd. Also, 73 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: it's the best money. Well, this is it like thirty 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: bucks an hour? 75 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: It's thirty plus dollars an hour. Wow, it's amazing. I'm like, kay, 76 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: and you will never have a job like this now 77 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: sometimes he has to. 78 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: Go an hour layer. 79 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, like, gosh, and it's only seasonal, 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: but I mean he has a good bit of money 81 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: just from from refing. It's it's and he's great at it. 82 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: What are your rules going to be with driving? I'm 83 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: so stressed out about this. Actually, this is very time 84 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: because there. 85 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Have been a number of teenage deaths lately in the 86 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: area and one was a car accident, and just it's 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: it's freaking me out. 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: It's really freaking me out. Do they say what that 89 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: what happened in the accident? 90 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what caused it, but it was 91 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: only one died in the In the actual car accident, 92 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: it was a teenager driving. 93 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: It's just been a lot. 94 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: But legally, when they turned sixteen, they are only allowed 95 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: to have one other person in their car. 96 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: But no one follows that rule. Yeah, no one. I 97 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: mean I didn't follow it when I was sixteen. We 98 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: didn't have it. Well, we didn't have it. But even 99 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: so the car, my Alero, my little Redillero, is super cute. 100 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: It fit five people, you know, including me, my mom's 101 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: like only you know, the two friends. I mean, I 102 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: piled in seven girls in my lero. Yeah, we were leaving. 103 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: I picked them up the other day because our high 104 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 1: school volleyball girls one state, so they let the kids 105 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: leave to go watch them in these tournaments. And so 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: I picked him and like five other boys up and 107 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: when we were leaving, I mean, the amount of kids 108 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: piled in these cars leaving and that is actually how 109 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: they got into this car accident at another school they 110 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: were going to this and so I've just had a 111 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: lot of conversations with them. I mean, our main rule 112 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: is if he is going to a party, he is 113 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: not a drinker. But if he is going to a party, 114 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 1: he will not be driving. He will not be riding 115 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: with teenagers. Like is it ubering or is it, I'll 116 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: be picking him up, so I don't care if I 117 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: have to. Now that might change in a couple of years, 118 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see how. But as of now, 119 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: it's like, I don't care if I have to park 120 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: down the street and I have to hide and you 121 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: have to tell him that another teenager's picking you up, 122 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: Like right, that is just my So like for homecoming, 123 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, I was going to let it. 124 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: Too comings By the way, I was really confused because 125 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: it was his girlfriend goes to a different school, got it, 126 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, so I was like I thought they had 127 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: had homecoming. 128 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, But long story short, I was going to let 129 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: the kid pick him up and take him to the 130 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: pictures and all that. 131 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: I said. 132 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: But once we get to this point in the night, 133 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: he might be a great kid. He may never touch alcohol. 134 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'll be picking you up from 135 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: this point on. So I just have different situational rules. 136 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: There's no set he has to tell me specifically or 137 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: ask me specifically about a certain kid. And we're just 138 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: getting into it. 139 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: Really, do you think he'll be honest with now because 140 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: he's a great kid. Yeah, but like, do you think 141 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: like what happens if he's not honest, are their consequences 142 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: and then do you think they'll be because I mean 143 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: you see his phone, so technically like you be able 144 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: to like know if he's texting other people and being like, hey, you. 145 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, well we'll have don't I don't get on 146 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: his phone? Oh yeah really No, I did have the 147 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: software on his but I don't. I don't get on 148 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: his phone anymore. I let him have that privacy. But 149 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: we're on Life three sixty and I will pay for 150 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: the Life three sixty where you can see when they 151 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: get on their phone and all of that. 152 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: You can tell when they get on their phone if 153 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: you pay for it, not the free version, but yeah, 154 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: you can see how many times they you pick up 155 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: your phone when you're driving? Really, and what's that? Is there? 156 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: Hard crash all the things? Is there no phone usage 157 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: when driving? 158 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: No? 159 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: And so hard? 160 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: Because I've got to admit sometimes I'm I do pick 161 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: up my phone when I'm driving. 162 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I've got to be a better example. 163 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: But no, he'll have to check his phone and then 164 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: turn it off and then check it when he gets 165 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, when he gets back. Yeah, I mean we've 166 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: got to get into life. 167 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: What are you most nervous about when it comes to 168 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: him driving? 169 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously just a car accident. 170 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: But but is it is it him? Is it the 171 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: other people? Is it. 172 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: Definitely other people? I mean he hasn't driven. I'm not 173 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: comfortable enough. Like I couldn't give him a license right now, so. 174 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: He hasn't driven, so he is isn't driven enough? 175 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's a pretty good driver, but he has 176 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: only been on the interstate one time. We have huge cars, 177 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: so it's like also like he's learning in these bigs. 178 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I just need him to get what he's going to 179 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: be driving and really get on that. But I worry 180 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: more about him writing with other people than. 181 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: I do him driving. So that's what I was going 182 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: to say, Is I would I still it's my It's 183 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: my lack of trust of other people. Yeah, as because 184 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm like I think Kayden was going to be very responsible, 185 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: but you don't know really the other I mean even 186 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 2: though you know the front right, but like I also 187 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: don't know how Harlow's going to drive. Yeah, when you 188 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: know the girls off Highland and razy or whatever like. 189 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: And I think the element of that too is distraction. 190 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: And I gave him a very good example the other 191 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: day when I was driving and I had him and 192 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: his friends in my car and they were all having 193 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: a different conversation, and then he was asking me something 194 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to figure out where I'm going, and 195 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: I was like, Kayden, this is why I'm like, I 196 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: can multitask so well, and y'all, I'm so overwhelmed by 197 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: the conversations that are going on. 198 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: It's so distracting. That's what worries me. 199 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not like an intentional thing, but when 200 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: you get them all together and they start talking and 201 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: they're asking questions and they're talking to the driver, it's 202 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: distracting and it's scary. 203 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: Well, that's to your point when you say, like you're 204 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: on the phone. That's one of my big things that 205 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: I really need to work on when I'm with the 206 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: kids on my phone. Yeah, but yet who cares about 207 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: me Like I am on my phone. It's not good. 208 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 2: But like you know, when I drive, and I need 209 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: to get better at that. But a perfect example I 210 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: was telling Alan, I said, it was one of those 211 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: really your heart just like jumps out of your chest 212 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: because if I was on my phone, there's no way 213 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have had had an collision because the other 214 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: guy was on his phone yeah, and it was on 215 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: McEwan Yeah, and I had to know where to worve 216 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: like to the right where that one opening was, like 217 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: that driveway or I would have been screwed, yeah, because 218 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: he was coming right at me. Yeah. And it was 219 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: like one of those moments where I was like, if 220 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: I was down on my phone, I wouldn't have swerved. Yeah. 221 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: And we have a lot of roads like that around here, 222 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: a lot of shoulder two lane roads, and that scares 223 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: me also. So I'll probably have some rules with again 224 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: at night, Like when Emmy starts driving, I won't let 225 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: her drive to practice for a couple of years because 226 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: it's an hour away. Yeah, So there will just be 227 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: certain things. 228 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: What's your rule on ubers for kids? Well, I don't 229 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: think they technically can sign up? No, no, I'm sorry to 230 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: get in an uber. 231 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: Well, well, tech nically without an adult, they're not supposed 232 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: to hear. Different cities you can get a minor. I've 233 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: looked this up. In different cities you can get an 234 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: uber for a minor. I don't think in Nashville that 235 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: you can. I looked it up in another city because 236 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: I was going to send kat In an Uber and 237 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it there. Now are they checking? I 238 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: don't know, but that would be my thing. I would 239 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: give them an Uber account, you know, just in case 240 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: he didn't feel comfortable calling me that night or you 241 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: know whatever. I mean. I feel like he will, but 242 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if we'll be able 243 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: to do it. He did get an ubers in Florida. 244 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: He got an uber in Florida a bunch of teenagers, 245 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: so I didn't care there, So I think it just 246 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: a pair. 247 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll be definitely leaning on you for all the things. 248 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, it's terrifying. I watch Life three sixty constantly. 249 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: You know. 250 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: He'll be fine anyway. Well, and when is that? When 251 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: are we looking forward to that? Well? He turned sixteen 252 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: in March. Okay, yeah, but the car would be Christmas, 253 00:10:59,520 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: I'm hoping. 254 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 255 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's cute. Was present? Is it something he wants? 256 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: He's got to pick it out. We haven't picked it 257 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: out yet. Cute? Yeah, que cute? That only Christmas? 258 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: Dan? 259 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know why I relate like Christmas time 260 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: thanksgiving to my lions, but I really do, because I 261 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: just always think of the Lions. And we've got Kelly 262 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: Stafford coming on today's show, and she is not only 263 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: the wife of Matthew Stafford, who was a former obviously 264 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 2: Lions player, but she has a new podcast out, and 265 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: so let's take a break and then get her own. 266 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: Hi. How are you good? How are you? 267 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: Got nice to officially meet in like in person? 268 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel like we've met a bunch before, 269 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 3: but I guess we've never actually. 270 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: Met, you know, and like Instagram world, that's one of 271 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: those things where it's like you feel like, you know, 272 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: like I feel like I know so many people and 273 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: then actually I'm like, oh, we've actually you Actually we've 274 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: never really met. We've DMed and stuff, but like we're 275 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: not HI. 276 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: I totally get it. We're Instagram friends, which makes sense. Yeah, 277 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: it's it's yeah, one of those things. 278 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: But I I have so many questions, But I think 279 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: I want to is there anywhere you want to start? 280 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: Because for me, we were just we're, you know, both 281 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: in our forties. Out are you now, Kelly? 282 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: I'm thirty five. I would love to start with your arms, 283 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: my goodness, arms above your head and they're fantastic. 284 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: Let's start there. Wow, But then you don't see the 285 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: lower part of this. I've got this big old pillow, 286 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: pillow because I'm trying to work on I pulled my 287 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: back out. You know, forty and having a third kid 288 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: is just super fun, and so I'm like trying to 289 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: work on my lumbar support with my fellow. 290 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: Oh goodness, well you are straight? 291 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: Well, thank you? 292 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: You look amazing? Are you? You are you? Like? Where 293 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: are we at with the third one? 294 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: Where we are? 295 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: You know? 296 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: It's actually really sad and I don't know why. I'm 297 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 2: kind of like emo today. But where I have that, 298 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: I have the want for another one, but my body 299 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: will not allow me to have another one. There's no way. 300 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: My mind, my body, my insides would be like yeah, girl, 301 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: go for it. Like it's everything is saying you are 302 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: too No. I don't even say too old, because I 303 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: have plenty of people that I know are great that 304 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: have kids in their you know loose shoot look at 305 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: out forty four? 306 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: Hello, Yeah, go girl? You know what I mean? 307 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: Emma, you know Willis, she had a baby in her 308 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: mid forties. I just, for some reason, I feel like 309 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: my body's just like slowly shutting down and she's like, 310 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 2: I'm so tired all the time. 311 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: How old are your kids now? 312 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: So I have almost nine, almost six, and then Roman 313 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: will be one November thirteenth, so it. 314 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: Would be your fourth, not thirty. It would be your 315 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: fourth if you went for another one. But you have 316 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: a okay, the one year old got it. Yeah, that 317 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 3: in itself, I feel like it's tough. I mean, you 318 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: got three kids and one year old one year old. 319 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: I feel like one to the three is like the 320 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: hardest ages. 321 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: See I love I agree that you're too busy making 322 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: sure they don't kill themselves. 323 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh. By the way, the other day Roman, 324 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: there we have like rocks on our little pathway. I 325 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: turn around for literally one second and he has a 326 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: rock in his mouth. And it was one of those 327 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: moments where I was like I did this, you know, 328 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: because it's like it's a two seconds, it's hard. I 329 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: turn around. I'm like, he's got a whole rock in 330 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: his mouth. 331 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I also feel like when you because 332 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: you said your second one is how old six six, 333 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: I feel like you've had five years. So sometimes like 334 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: when your new moms, you're so on top, very thing. 335 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: And then when you have some time and also by 336 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: your third one, I feel like you're like, ah, they'll survive, 337 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: like that probably poop it through, you know. 338 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: Okay, it's okay, so true because you guys have four 339 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: the twins and then yes, and then two more. 340 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: Mine were knocked out pretty quick, which I which was 341 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: a really honestly really hard at the beginning. It was 342 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: a lot of babies and a lot of throw up 343 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: and a lot of crap, and honestly, like after we 344 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: had the twins, we I remember looking at Matthew going 345 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: what did we do? Like this is really hard. And 346 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: then a month later I found out I was pregnant 347 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: with my third and I couldn't even tell them because 348 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: it was just one of those moments in life where 349 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: you are just really trying to survive and you're struggling 350 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: to survive, and that goes for like I mean, as 351 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: an individual, as a married couple, as a fan, like 352 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: in all entities, were just trying to survive, so that 353 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: it was really hard at the beginning. But now that 354 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: they're they're four, six and two seven year olds, and 355 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: I have all girls. They're so good at playing with 356 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: each other and entertain each other, entertain each other. So 357 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: now I'm like, this is great. Now. I have a 358 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: feeling in four to six years I'm gonna be like 359 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: this is hell again when they're all in high school 360 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: together and Caddie and probably don't like mom and love dad, 361 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: you know those scenarios. But yes, four kids, and I'm 362 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: treasuring these times right now because it's really nice. Right now. 363 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: Did you do IVF? I did, for thought the things 364 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: that you and Matthew were doing with you you're granting it? 365 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: Was it IVF for yes? 366 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we I'm actually a part of Chosen Fertility, 367 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: which is based out of Michigan, and it is basically 368 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: getting grants for people who can't afford to go because 369 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: we all know that IVF is very expensive. Yeah, and 370 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: it's hard enough going through it. I went through it, 371 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: and I didn't have the financial burdens. I could not 372 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: imagine having that on top of everything. And also if 373 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: you can't do it, like if you can't afford it 374 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: and you have that dream of a family, I just 375 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: feel like that would be so hard. So I'm so 376 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: happy to be a part of that. But yeah, we're 377 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: doing that. We went through IVF for our first two. 378 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: They gave us a really low personage chance, and I 379 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: kind of knew that going into it when we were trying. 380 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: Was it on your side or was it it was 381 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: on my side? It was you know, there's always things 382 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: that they find when they're looking, but it was it 383 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: was mostly me and there was nothing they could really fix. 384 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes they can fix things and make it easier, 385 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: but they're in my case, it just wasn't an option. 386 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: So we did we uh, we tried for a while. 387 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: Didn't work, did IVF, which I'm so grateful we have. 388 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: I mean, it's such a blessing. But after that, you know, 389 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: I had my twins and we did put two in. 390 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: So the twins weren't like a surprise. Just the way 391 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: it happened was surprising. We put two in at the 392 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: recommendation of my doctor because of what is going on 393 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 3: in my system. He was like, it just gives you 394 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: a better chance. One took, and I always say the 395 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: one that didn't take was my boy. He was like, 396 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: I'm out of here. I know it's about to happen. 397 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be feeling a boy in the house. 398 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: And the one took and then it split, so that's 399 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 3: what made the identical twins, which was awesome. And then 400 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: after that, I felt like my body just kind of 401 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 3: kicked into gear knowing how to do it because I 402 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: got pregnant very quickly and surprisingly after that. And I'm 403 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: so grateful, but it was a very big surprise. 404 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: Did you was there any I mean, you have the 405 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: had the four, but was there any piece of you 406 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: that were like, all right, let me just try for 407 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: that fifth to get a boy, or was me were 408 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: just yeah. 409 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: That was the fourth that was our try for a boy. 410 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: We didn't find out until she came out. But I 411 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: always say because I thought I was gonna be a 412 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: mom of all boys. I was a very big tom 413 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: boy growing up. I thought it'd be a great boy mom. 414 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: Turns out God knows better. Matthew never wanted a boy 415 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: because of just he just didn't want his kid to 416 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: feel pressured in any type of way or fashion, and honestly, 417 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: looking at it, I probably would be the one to 418 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: pressure him the most. So I think God knew, like, hey, 419 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: I'm just going to give you all girls. There's no 420 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: pressure there. Let them be what they want to be. 421 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: Type of thing. 422 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: That's so interesting. 423 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it is, and it's fun. 424 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean, again, I never thought i'd be a girl mom, 425 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: but I'm enjoying it very much. So do you enjoy 426 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: the girl or the boy aspect? Because she's got two 427 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: girls and a boy. 428 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: Well, I always thought I would have all boys too, 429 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: not necessarily because I was a tomboy. I just I 430 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: just knew I would be a boy mom. Yeah, and 431 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: I the boy is easier, I have to say, but 432 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's fifteen. And then I got the 433 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: twelve year old girl and just the emotions of an 434 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: eight year old girl. 435 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: But the emotions and middle school. 436 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: That's why I was like, oh, it's probably you'll be 437 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: great for you. 438 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it won't, but that many girls. 439 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: I don't that it just gets And I'm super close 440 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: to my twelve year old I'm girl. I mean we're 441 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: like super super close. I make sure that we have 442 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: a really good, real lif relationship. But it's just the 443 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: emotions of the girls. 444 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: Are I feel like, when done right though, the relationship 445 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: with a mom and a daughter when they're older is 446 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: such a beautiful thing. Yeah, when done right. 447 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing. I didn't have a great 448 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: relationship with my mom. And so it's like this like 449 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: struggle because it's the constant wanting to. 450 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: Do it right. 451 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Yes, but then if I feel like I get it wrong, 452 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: then I put so much pressure on myself. 453 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: Literally just happened. 454 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: I didn't do this right, and now we're we're gonna 455 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: have a terrible relationship when she's older. 456 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: You know, I literally think that all the time. Yeah, 457 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: I got our Jolie again with the hair brushing, and 458 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, I literally told you every morning, and then 459 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: because she was like then late for school and it's 460 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: this whole thing. And then when she got on the bus, 461 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, she's gonna like she's 462 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: gonna hit me because I'm getting on in her her 463 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: brushing her hair, and it was it's just like this 464 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: whole thing. Yeah, like it, Yeah, it's always there. Being 465 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: a Parent's so fun. 466 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: Being a parent, and I feel like it's so hard, 467 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: and I honestly feel like a lot of the pressure 468 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: comes from what we're seeing on the outside. We see 469 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: everyone's world and how good they are at parenting, and 470 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 3: automatically we're like, oh, we should do that, and we 471 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 3: try and it doesn't go that way, and all of 472 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 3: a sudden, we feel like failures. It's something that I 473 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: very much struggle with. I mean, I was like, you, guys, 474 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: my kids had a MAT test this morning. One's actually sick. 475 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm getting sick. So that's fun. But 476 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: when I had a MATT test this morning, and you 477 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: know how, you're like, all right, two plus two equals four, 478 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: you know, and then you're like, all right, so if 479 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: you add one to that, what is equal? And they're 480 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: like nineteen, You're like, what the heck? Like, how did 481 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: you get there? Well, I'm frustrated, flustered, we're walking out 482 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: the door. Therefore, she has zero confidence going into this test, 483 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 3: right cause I'm like, okay, you know what, let's just go. 484 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: We're done. You'll be fine. Zero confidence. I left school, 485 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 3: dropped them, turned back around, parked, walked in and grabbed 486 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: her and was like, I'm so sorry. I had a 487 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: very stress warning you were going to do great. All 488 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 3: you need is to know that you can do it. 489 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: But there's those moments as parents where you just lose 490 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: it and it's gonna happen a lot. I keep telling myself. 491 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: I was like, I can try not to lose it, 492 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: but that's actually not that's not going to happen for me. 493 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: Like I am a very reactional person, which is horrible 494 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 3: it comes to parenting, but something I'm working on, but 495 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm still going to fail. So I just feel like, 496 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: as long as you can also show your kids that 497 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 3: you can apologize and be like, you know what I 498 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: messed up to something I'm trying to figure out. 499 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: No, for sure, I know that's not gonna say because 500 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: when when she got home, I was like, Hejulie, I 501 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: just want to say I'm sorry. 502 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: She was it's okay. 503 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: I go, wait, wait, do you know why I'm apologizing? 504 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god? I was like she didn't even like. 505 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: I was like, she didn't even know why I was. 506 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: I was like, let me explain to you why I'm 507 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: apologizing before you say it's okay. You know, it's a 508 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: constant in our house. It's a constant, but so true 509 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: though with you what you're saying. But I feel like 510 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: even with so Jolie, the same thing, Like when she 511 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: was learning her site words you knew, She's like would say, 512 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: it's like, let's say it's the the you know, and 513 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: she would be like, and we go back to it, 514 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: and she'd be like h and I'm like no, like 515 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: the you know, and then I would get like you said, 516 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: a little frustrated. But now when Jas is doing it, 517 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, they don't know, you know, so I'm like 518 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: I need to just be patient. So I'm like he's 519 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: getting a little bit more of the patient side. And 520 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: they probably with Roman, i'd be like, yeah, but that's 521 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: that's a yeah. 522 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that poor first kid. I'm still every day 523 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: on him with his I'm like, you were in high school. 524 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: And then then the eighte year old, I'm like, that's fine, 525 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: you can pay it. 526 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, you know what. This is what I 527 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: always say. We're gonna succeed in what we succeeded. If 528 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: we're not a math genius, we're not going to be 529 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 3: a mat genius does no matter how hard we try. 530 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: So maybe we figure it out early and then we 531 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: really go towards the things we're good at. I mean, 532 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 3: in this I feel like in this world, they're all 533 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: calculated as anyways, I'm going listen. 534 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: Oh you're not going to well, my twelve year old 535 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: she can't spell, Like I hate to call her out, 536 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: but it gets a thing. She cannot spell, and I 537 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: think it's because she had a phone early she would 538 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: talk into it, and so she would and so so 539 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: literally I was like, are your teachers, I mean, she's 540 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: in seventh grade. I'm like, are your teachers not worried 541 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: that you legitimately still cannot spell? Because now, actually, a 542 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: teacher the other day was like, it's okay, but a 543 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: lot of people can't spell. You don't really need to 544 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: know how to spell anymore. 545 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 546 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: I was like, well, you know what, I love it. 547 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: I love a teacher that leans into that, because most 548 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: teachers be like, oh no, we need to send you 549 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: to a you know, have you start learning those teachers 550 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: I have, but I. 551 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: Think it's it's like the calculator and then everything is 552 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: spell checked. 553 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: Now they sure do, but I'm true, Okay, I guess 554 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: we'll just roll with this. So switching leaning No, it's 555 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: true though, leaning into the older we get. I've been 556 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: h after Roman too. I'm like, oh my, there's been 557 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: so many symptoms that have kind of come up, and 558 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: I've been checking into certain things. I just got a in, 559 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: you know, a full body scan, and when I was 560 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: kind of looking into your brain tumor diagnosis, you were 561 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: saying that you felt lightheaded and dizzy before did you 562 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: start to go like down the doctor google rabbit hole, 563 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: or were you like, no, I know something's wrong, and 564 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: like what was kind of like what kind of person 565 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: are you? In that instance, because I go to like, 566 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: oh my god, I have MS and I'm dying, or 567 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: like you know, or like I have this cancer or yeah, 568 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: and I just needed glasses and you know, some supplements. 569 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: You know what. The girls were so young. I think 570 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: Hunter was six months or Third was six months, or 571 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: maybe like or maybe like three months at this point 572 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: that I noticed something was off, but I just felt 573 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: too busy or just too too much was going on 574 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: for me to really think about it. I mentioned it 575 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: to Matthew, I mentioned it to my mom. I was like, gosh, 576 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 3: I'm getting old. Like I'm trying to teach the girls 577 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 3: how to do a front role and I'm like, I 578 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: can't find my footing. Afterwards, I'm just and my mom goes, 579 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: you're twenty nine, I mean you're getting old. I was like, oh, 580 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, I just don't feel right. And it took, 581 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: honestly about a couple months of me feeling this way 582 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: and some thing to actually happened like I was holding 583 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: Hunter and I felt myself going down just the room 584 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: started spinning, and I kind of threw her to Matthew. 585 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 3: Thank got he caught her, but I went down to 586 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: the ground and he looked at me and he was like, 587 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: we're going in right now, Like this is getting ridiculous 588 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: that you know, you keep telling me you don't feel right. 589 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: This is occurring. You know, who's to say it's not 590 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: gonna occur when you're driving? And he was right, And 591 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: so we went in first the emergency room in Michigan 592 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: and they gave me or out of out of hert 593 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: something like that, it's the verdigo drug. Didn't touch it. 594 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: And so we were actually leaving that next day to 595 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: go out of town because it was the off season 596 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: and normally when we were in Detroit we had a 597 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: long off season, so we would leave pretty quickly and 598 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: head to California. And we were doing that the next 599 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: day and I was like, you know what, I'll just 600 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 3: get checked another time, Like I'll just figure it out. 601 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: We got to California and Matthew ended up scheduling me 602 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 3: the MRI without me even really knowing, and handed me 603 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: like the PaperWorks like, E've an MRI tomorrow. It's like, okay. 604 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: I was like, but I'm feeling fine. You know, one 605 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 3: of those things that you just kind of like. I 606 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: really didn't think there was anything wrong. I just thought 607 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: maybe I don't know what I thought, so I did 608 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: not go down the rabbit hole. I didn't really look 609 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: into it at all. When I went to get my MRI, 610 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: they called and said I wasn't on this phone call. 611 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: Matthew was and it was his team doctor for the 612 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: Lions called and said, you know what, they found something 613 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: on the scan. They're going to see you at UCLA tomorrow. 614 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: And didn't say anything other than that, and again I 615 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: just was like, well, I mean, I had no idea 616 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: I was and he said he is, hey, You've an 617 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: appointment at UCLA neuro Institute tomorrow, and I was like okay. Honestly, 618 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: I just I kind of stopped in my tracks for 619 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: a second. But again, when you have young kids, they 620 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: kind of take your mind off of everything. And I 621 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: don't even remember the next day. We just went in. 622 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: They pulled up my MRI and they were like, here's 623 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: your brain tumor. And I think I blacked out that 624 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: that Oh, it was a horrible. First of all, it 625 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 3: was a horrible way to do it. The bedside man 626 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: really wasn't there. I know, Matthew was in a little 627 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 3: bit of shock too. So we sat there and listened 628 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: and walked outside, sat in the waiting room behind a 629 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: girl who had a scar that now I have, Like 630 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: I saw her staples and I lost it. And that's 631 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: when he got on the phone and just started calling 632 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: every doctor he knew to you know, get me set 633 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: up in the best places to figure out what to do. 634 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: Which I'm so grateful. He's such an incredible leader on 635 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: that field, but he really leads his family in a 636 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: way that is even better than that. He really took 637 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: the helm of this and just kind of let me 638 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: sit back and did everything I needed to get done. So, yeah, 639 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: it was. And you know, in those moments, you think, 640 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: and you guys would do the same thing. Being moms, 641 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: You're like, well, I'm just grateful to me and not 642 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: my kids, because you see, you see the kids that 643 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: are battling stuff and that don't understand, and to me, 644 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: it's truly not fair. And so in that moment, you know, 645 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: all I could think was I'm just so grateful. It's 646 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: not my kids and it's and it's not my hut 647 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: because I think I'm better as like the person going 648 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: through it than the caregiver. So I was got it 649 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: was a Matthew either. So yeah, it was a moment 650 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 3: in time that I'll never forget. But I'm also extremely 651 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: grateful for that whole thing we went through as a family. 652 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: So did they say that there's a chance that something 653 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: could grow back like that? Like how how because it's 654 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: like some things that they don't get at all, it 655 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: could potentially And does that kind of is that in 656 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: the back of your mind or. 657 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they they got it all the only 658 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: the only thing and I and I'm getting scanned every year. 659 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: I'm actually doing the full body thing you were talking about. 660 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: I think that's incredible, you know, and going through this, 661 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: I just want to be active. But the only thing 662 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: that can happen really is, yes, it could grow back, 663 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: but the other side it could occur on If it 664 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: does occur on this side, it is genetic. And I 665 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: begged my parents to get a row because neither of 666 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 3: them can hear like there's you know, but they're just 667 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: old and they don't want to do it, So there's that, 668 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: but it is if it grows on this side, if 669 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: there's some things that you know, or if I start 670 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: feeling away and they find out then it's genetic and 671 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: I'll have to get my kids tested, which that is 672 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 3: that's the biggest fear of this is just hoping that 673 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: that never occurs. So I know that my kids are 674 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: okay because I guess that, and the worst thing that 675 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: come this is not cancer, so we are so grateful 676 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: for that. But if you get it on both sides, 677 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: and you know, you remove it because it's affecting your 678 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: overall equilibrium, you can lose your hearing in both years 679 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden and you don't have 680 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: your hearing anymore. So that is the fear when it 681 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: comes to my kids getting it and stuff like that. 682 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: But other than that, it's pretty I feel good. I'm 683 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: so happy it's done with and I try not to 684 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: think about you know too much, so yeah. 685 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: Well good. It's always like so scary, but like that, 686 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: I'm big on. There's something else too that I've been 687 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: you know, starting to be a part of all just again, 688 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: all preventative stuff, like okay, what can we be doing 689 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: to help prevent things. You know, I know it's not 690 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: a cure for things, but anything preventative. I'm just like you, 691 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: John side Far moving on to the other thing you have, 692 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: So is it? There are two podcasts kind of like 693 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: one in like two in one because I saw the 694 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: timeout than the morning after or the morning after. 695 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: The Timeout is literally thanks to Taylor Swift because she's 696 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 3: gotten a lot of women and football, and the timeout 697 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: is literally based is about football. It's usually like the 698 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: experience of game day that we went through, and also 699 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: just the NFL in general, like the score, stuff like that, 700 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: but also learning the game starting from the bottom, trying 701 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: to teach and actually, like, as I'm doing this, I'm 702 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: realizing how much I don't know. I was talking to 703 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: Math the other day and I like looked at him 704 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: at one point. So you're telling me you do a 705 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: million things before that ball snapped. I'm talking. I can't 706 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: even imagine. I go, how do you sleep at night? 707 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: Like my brain would be turning at every And that's 708 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: what moms do, right, We think about every scenario that 709 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: we have to do that we haven't done. Things like that. 710 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: He sleeps like a log. But I will say, is 711 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: it is a lot tougher than I thought to know 712 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: the very much ins and outs. I know the basics, 713 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: which helps me watch it. But that's what time Out is. 714 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: It's basically like learning the basics so people can enjoy 715 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: it more when they're watching it with their sygnegica, ooh, 716 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: significant other, sorry and stuff like that. And then The 717 00:32:54,520 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: Morning After is really just a modern podcast about modern relationships, marriages, parenting, 718 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: kind of what we were talking about, just being realistic 719 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 3: about all of that. And the reason I started because 720 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: I was really tired and really down on myself on 721 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: a lot of things as a parent, as a wife, 722 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: with my looks, Like I moved to La and there's 723 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: god knows all these there's beautiful women in Michigan here, 724 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: there's beautiful women here, and I was down on a 725 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: lot and I realized, like I am staring into a 726 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: screen full of everybody's best and I kind of just 727 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: wanted to create a space where we talk about maybe 728 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: not all of our best things, but maybe we like 729 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: mix it up and talk about some of our failures 730 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: so that we don't feel so alone when we do 731 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: fail in all these relationships in a way, So. 732 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you brought that up to matt How was 733 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: his or Matthew, how was his response? Like was he like, 734 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you, Yes, go do it? Or 735 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: was there was a little or was there he hesitancy 736 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: because the things that you might share well and is 737 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: there any awful limits? Because I've seen some headlines, so 738 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 2: I was like, I know there are plenty of things 739 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: that I wish I could go back. I mean, there's 740 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: a because unfortunately I forget that people listen and then 741 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: and then it becomes the headline and then I'm like 742 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: why did I say that? Like what for what reason 743 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: did I say that? And then it's like you can't 744 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: apologize for everything you say, so then you just kind 745 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: of kind of keep on going. And I've saw you 746 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 2: lean into it, you like kind of called the tour 747 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: chase and the case, you know what I mean. I 748 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: was like, she's she's at least leaning into it, So like, 749 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: how do you deal with when you see a headline? 750 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: Cause I about vomit every time. I'm like, I like so, 751 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: but I also you know then I'm like then I 752 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: then she gets pissed at me because I'm like, well, 753 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 2: I gotta be really careful what I say I gotta 754 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: be my stop, like just talk. 755 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: So tell me I agree with you. I you know, 756 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: it's tough because I have to protect him in a 757 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: way just because he has a franchise behind him. But 758 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: at the same time, I tell myself of these headlines, 759 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: they are picking things out and making it sound like 760 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 3: something it's not. That is their job now as media. 761 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: We know it's like it's all clickbait. There's no actual 762 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 3: well there is, but like journalism is tougher now because 763 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: they have to be the first ones to deliver it. 764 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: But you know, some headlines are tougher than others. I 765 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: you know the one you're talking about that Honestly, Matthew 766 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: and I kind of laughed at that one because it 767 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: got so blown up. And if you knew us when 768 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 3: we were seventeen when this was occurring, I think you 769 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 3: would kind of laugh with us. But it is. It's 770 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: something that I'm human, Like things affect me, what people 771 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: say affects me. I'm not going to sit here and 772 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: say I don't give a shit, because I do. But 773 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: I also have to remind myself, like if I'm standing 774 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 3: by who I am and if I'm being my real self, 775 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 3: and that's what that podcast is, Like, I am vulnerable, 776 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: I am out there. I want to be me because 777 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 3: I feel like for a long time I was just 778 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 3: Matthew's girlfriend or wife, and I had to play this 779 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 3: role and look a certain way and all these things, 780 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 3: and I just I got worn out and I lost myself. 781 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 3: And so with this podcast, I'm kind of finding who 782 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: I am again. And I always tell him like, you 783 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: know what, if people don't like that, then they don't 784 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 3: have to listen. And headlines are always going to give 785 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: you not a good feeling. I don't care if it's 786 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 3: good or bad, because somewhere it just it feels. 787 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: They've never actually put a good one out because they 788 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: don't want it. It's not really intended to be like 789 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: they want you to click on it. No one would 790 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: be like she's so in love, click here, you know exactly, So. 791 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 3: They're all not fun. I totally agree. So, I mean, 792 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 3: I don't deal with it well by any means, but 793 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: I just try to remind myself, like, well that was 794 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 3: the truth. It is what it is. And I could 795 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 3: easily have been like, you know what, yes, we were 796 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 3: the quarterback and cheerleader and we fell in love. It 797 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: for site and we were the best couple ever. But 798 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: it's just not true. Like we did the ups and 799 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 3: downs through college and we loved and hated each other 800 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 3: and it was it was what we needed to get 801 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: to where we are now. So and that's another thing, 802 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: like understanding, like where you are now is because of 803 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 3: all these things that it might have happened, and all 804 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: these headlines, whether they be good or bad, is it 805 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: got you to where you are now as a person? 806 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: And is he like this is is there anything that's 807 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 2: off limits or is he just so supportive of Oh yeah, 808 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 2: because of having your voice, Like like you said, like 809 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 2: you've just been you know, Matthew Stafford's wife, and it's 810 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: like no, like you're coming out and you're coming out 811 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 2: into the light and like having a voice and. 812 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: And and I will. He's so proud of me in 813 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 3: that way. He's like he always when he sits in here, 814 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: he's on some podcasts. You've gotten really good at this 815 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 3: like this is it seems very natural for you and 816 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: I love that. But there are off limit things like 817 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 3: I mentioned something about I don't even know what it was, 818 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 3: but it affected his life. Room that is a huge No, 819 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 3: Like that was like Ooh, I'm going to go get 820 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: a hotel room. He's going to be pissed. Kind of situation. Now, 821 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 3: I didn't do that because I have four kids here, 822 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: so I can't really do that. 823 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: That would be amazing you and leave them. Yeah, I 824 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: like it. 825 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 3: Actually, what a joyful day. Yeah, I'm gonna go to 826 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 3: the SPA have a great day. No, so that is 827 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 3: off limits. I mean anything that's too personal, I'll never 828 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: get into, like our sex life or anything like that. 829 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 3: That's just off limits for me. But other than that, 830 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 3: I mean, he's pretty, he's he likes me showing this 831 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: side of myself. He's like, this is the side I 832 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 3: fell in love with, So why wouldn't I want the 833 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 3: world to see this side? So, yes, he is very sportive. 834 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 3: Now headlines are headlined, so you know, every once in 835 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 3: a while he'll be like, oh man. 836 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: Count So I know, I know it's like that. Why 837 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 2: did I say that? Yeah, it's likecause you you felt 838 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: that way, I know, or. 839 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 3: Maybe you couldn't. We could have said it different differently. 840 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, that's the hard part in hindsight. Sure 841 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't that be great if we all said things differently? 842 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 843 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 2: We just have a mic in front of us. 844 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: Yes, nobody would ever get in fights. Be great, we'd 845 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 3: be so calm and peaceful, but that's just not the way. 846 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 2: So yeah, well, thank you for coming on and thank 847 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 2: you for accepting my apology. Back in the day when 848 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: I said Matthew was the problem, was the reason why 849 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 2: the Lions always lost, and then the next year they 850 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: went on to win the Super Bowl. 851 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 3: For the RAM so I was like, cool, all right, 852 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: well heyde and I'm very happy for the Lions. They 853 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 3: are so fun to watch. I mean, it is what 854 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: every time I turn on TV and I'm looking at 855 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: I'm like god less, and you watch them play and 856 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 3: they're just enjoying it. So I'm so happy, and I'm. 857 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: Sorry about the fans because that's the well that they 858 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 2: you know, And that's like my husband is always he's 859 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: telling me things because he was he grew up in 860 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 2: the Premier League of playing and coaching, and those fans 861 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: are so mean to even their own like players, you know, 862 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 2: our own people, and I'm just like, I I can't 863 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 2: get over it. But when you even said they're like 864 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 2: when you boo at the kids, and that's that's a 865 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: big no. Like you remember that one someone just yelled 866 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: at No matter who you're voting for, it, don't yell 867 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: at the kids. I saw the something going viral of 868 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 2: the supporter of someone yelling at a child, and I'm like, no, no, like, yeah, 869 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: when you're not booing or yelling at kids. And I 870 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 2: do know they were booing and yelling at me, but 871 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: when my kids are standing right next to me, they 872 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: don't know the difference they're getting, you know, taught like 873 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it was, But at the same time, there 874 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 2: were plenty of fans there who were so kind. And 875 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 2: that's what I was gonna say. You're like, we only 876 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: hear those voices. There are thousands of other people that 877 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: are cheering you on. It's like the headlines, you know, 878 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 2: you only you only see the bad ones. 879 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 3: Well they only appear anyways, but uh yeah, and those 880 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 3: fans like you tend to remember only the bad things. 881 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 3: And that's I don't know why we do that as 882 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: humans what we do. So that was that. That sucked. 883 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 3: But again, I like, look back at that and go 884 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 3: there those are. It's such a passionate fan base that 885 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: I miss in a lot of ways. So can you 886 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 3: blame them? Not really? I just next time, won't make 887 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 3: the mistake of going on the field, you know, like 888 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 3: that that was my mistake. I won't take my kids 889 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: down there like that. If we ever in back of Michigan, 890 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: we'll just you know, go quietly to our seats and 891 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 3: sit and watch. But I do I miss Michigan. It's 892 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 3: it's such an amazing town full of great people that 893 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 3: we definitely miss. But I'm happy for y'all. I'm happy 894 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 3: for I'm so happy for that Lion's team, like I hope, well, 895 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 3: I can't say it because we are still playing. 896 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 2: But you know, I they deserve they deserve their time. 897 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and I live my lifetime. Yes, if it's 898 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 3: not us, it's I would. I would hope it's y'all. 899 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: So well, Kelly, it was lovely to finally connect and 900 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: tell our listeners where they can listen and find you. 901 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can listen to The Morning After with Kelly 902 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 3: and Hank wherever you get your podcasts. Also with time out. 903 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 3: Time out drops on Tuesdays. In the Morning After drops 904 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 3: on Thursdays, So it's fun. I appreciate you guys having 905 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 3: me on. It was thanks to finally connect. 906 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: Yes, the same love to see you and congrats with everything. 907 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 3: All right, thanks for all you too. 908 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 2: Bye bye. Who's your team do you root for? 909 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: Not NFL? I mean Titans, I guess, but no, just 910 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: college they're always bad. 911 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 2: We like the Lions, k they're terrible. 912 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: So there. 913 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I would say Titans just because I'm from Tennessee. 914 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: Sure, but like we're just we're just we're just college 915 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: football because even growing up, like my parents really just 916 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: watched or my dad just really watched U T and 917 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: then now born or married into Alabama. Yeah, so you 918 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: don't really then watch it, I guess not right now? 919 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just Alabama doing. 920 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: Vandy beat them, but they bandy also beat Oh god, 921 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: there was another really good team they beat this year apparently. 922 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: But I don't I get I get bits and pieces 923 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: now because I don't. We don't pay attention as much 924 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 1: as we used to because we're so But now Kate 925 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: into it too, so like he'll be like in the 926 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: car watching it, like I don't know, but I don't 927 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: think we're very good. 928 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. I just I'll never forget that because 929 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 2: I mean, god, I just I went off, So what happened? 930 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: So okay, vaguely remember this. Matthew Stafford was on the 931 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 2: lines for I mean, I'm gonna probably like I make 932 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 2: up that it was like six something years. Maybe I 933 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 2: make up that it was at least a long time. Okay, 934 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 2: maybe Eastern Orhannah would lovely google that right now and see. 935 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 2: But forever, and I just kept saying it's Matt like, 936 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: it's Matt, like, Matt's the problem. And I don't know 937 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 2: if it was because my high school sweets name is Matthew, 938 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: and so I like connected the two Michigan saying this 939 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,439 Speaker 2: twelve seasons, there goes a lot. It's probably a long 940 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 2: long time, right, so like so many years, and I'm 941 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 2: just like, he's the problem, Like he is the reason 942 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 2: that we are losing all the time because of the 943 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: interceptions or the drop right passes. So if you're gonna 944 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 2: blame like you know, of course you got to just 945 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: blame the quarter quarterback. Yeah. Then he they trade golf 946 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 2: for Stafford. And that next year, so that first year 947 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 2: that Stafford goes to the Rams, he wins a Super Bowl. 948 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: Oh wow. And I was like, well, wait, so did 949 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 2: you say this out loud? 950 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? 951 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 2: Pretty much? Did you did you say it but like, ho, 952 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: now know that you said this because we were like 953 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 2: DM sometimes and I made a public apology on Instagram 954 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: like one of my stories, and I was like, yo, sorry, 955 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 2: Stafford's like totally always blamed you guys, but congrats on 956 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 2: your super Bowl. 957 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: When say you said then, yeah, like when you were 958 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: being nice, you said you always blamed him. 959 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 2: I probably did, like over family dinners and stuff too, 960 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: you know. So just wanted to well, she seems like 961 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 2: she handled that well yes, no, oh yeah, she's she's 962 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, they're always the quarterback. That 963 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 2: would be so hard. It's like the goalie in the hockey. 964 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: You're gonna blame Oscar. He was the best. But I'm sorry. 965 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: My Michigan is coming out of me right now. But anyways, 966 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 2: love it, I love it. Chat next week. Bye bye 967 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 2: bye h