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Speaker 1: Grease Podcast, where we'll explore things forgotten but relevant, search

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Speaker 1: Presented by f HF gear, American made purpose built hunting

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Speaker 1: Moby Dick Burrows. Country spoke House is a fair Grease

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Speaker 1: there's a big striper. We're over here by Lake Washtall. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm Clay. Thank you for for meeting with This is

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Speaker 1: Will you give us a tour of your of brand?

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Speaker 1: even the little town I grew up in It wasn't

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00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: a nice guys station, but I remember guys coming in

424
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: there and they would measure their big bucks at Don's

425
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: gas station, right next to the single cafe that was

426
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: in town there. That was still a thing. It wasn't

427
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: a nice place to hang out, but that was something

428
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: that started back in the nineteen fifties with the surge

429
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: of the oil economy in the US. Remember that, the

430
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: surge of the oil economy. I asked JB. What broke

431
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: up the mom and pop gas station craze. So the

432
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: economy is booming up until the early nineteen seventies and

433
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: there's this Opeque oil embargo. That's where basically a lot

434
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 1: of the Middle East countries got together and they're going

435
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: to restrict the amount of oil they were releasing to

436
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: the Western world. With that, all of a sudden, that's

437
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: when you start seeing gas lines. You start seeing there's

438
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: a limit to gas. So the price of gases. There

439
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: were people in lines at gas station trying to fill up,

440
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: and that was a big thing throughout the nineteen seventies,

441
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: and so the price of gas suddenly became came higher.

442
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: When the gas prices went up, you see again changes

443
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: happen in society. The type of cars we drove started

444
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: to change. The muscle cars of the nineteen sixties, you

445
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: still had some of the nineteen seventies, but the smaller

446
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: vehicles became more prominent because it was more affordable to drive.

447
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: You got the Pento, You've got the Gremlin, You've got

448
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: all these little cars. Even the muscle card like the

449
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: Ford Mustang, like compared to a Charger or a Leman's,

450
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: the Mustang was a lot smaller, you know, that was

451
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: the way it was. Lee I Coca pitched that it's

452
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: gonna be an affordable muscle car. And yet these gas

453
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: stations they had to find some way of bringing people in,

454
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 1: and they started sacrificing the service at the pump stuff,

455
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: and it was more we're gonna make it as cheap

456
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: as we can and get you in and out as

457
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: fast as we can. Because people were tired of waiting

458
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: in lines. They didn't want to pay more than they

459
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: had to for gas. And so the guy with a

460
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: little hat disappeared. That all of that started to fade out,

461
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: and so you trickle that they valued efficiencies exactly, making

462
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: it as cheap as you could, and so you trickle

463
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: that down to the rural community. These and a lot

464
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: of that. It just became faster people were coming through,

465
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: and so I would assume that's where a lot of

466
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: the town square feel that you're talking about in the

467
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: rural communities didn't disappear completely, but that's really where it

468
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: started to be hity. Yeah. And when you think about

469
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: used to go to the gas station and it was

470
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of an event. Man comes out,

471
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: you might, you might go in the store, and it

472
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: just it took a long time. Then it became about

473
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: efficiency and price, not service. And that goes right back

474
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: to my deer heads. That the reason that these store

475
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: owners to this day have a deer head and their

476
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: store is people want to come in and see it.

477
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: It's something that the community can kind of get around

478
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: and there's stories about these deer and it it initiates conversation.

479
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: And it feels like today most of our gas station

480
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: experiences anyway, it's about efficiency. Yeah, the community get aspect

481
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: really got lost. And we're talking about gas stations. You

482
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: can trickle up throughout the whole economy. The pleasant social

483
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: experience of buying gas was traded for efficiency and cheap prices.

484
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: Now that sounds like America. And now with prepay fuel,

485
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: the idea is you don't even have to go into

486
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 1: the store, you don't even have to interface with another

487
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: human to buy gas. I'd be the first to want

488
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: to pay less for something, but when you really think

489
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: about it, what did we lose by paying less and

490
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: what did we gain? Later in this episode, we'll talk

491
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: with an expert on the idea of social capital, which

492
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: is basically our networks of relationships. Will learn about the

493
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: tangible contributions of this thing called social capital. Would it

494
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: be true this this is anecdotal, but it feels like

495
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: it would be correct. Is that when it became about

496
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: price and not service and not a unique experience going

497
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: to a mom and pop gas station that might have

498
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: some attractions, then the big corporations, the big franchises were

499
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: able to win in the gas station war because they

500
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: can have a thousand x X gas station, and then

501
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: the mom and pop store got And that's why when

502
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: you drive around rural Arkansas, Oklahoma, rural anywhere, it's littered

503
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: with old gas stations. It's like ghost towns. Yeah, I mean,

504
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: and so am I right? And that that's what happened.

505
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: It really is because it became more efficient and even regionally,

506
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: if you go into the Northeastern United States, you're gonna

507
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: see different chains that dominate in the Northeastern United States.

508
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: In the Western u s there's different chains than in

509
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: what we see in the southern US. But those chains

510
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: took over, and that's really what it is. JB. I

511
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: want to make an appeal to the people in power

512
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: that own gas stations in rural America. You know, if

513
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: you're in an urban place and you don't think your

514
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: customer base would identify with this, that's okay, But it

515
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: bothers me to go into a rural gas station and

516
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: not see a deerhead, JB. Or a fish. Just give

517
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: me a fish. Is that too much to ask? When

518
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't sing well, I mean even singing fishes a

519
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: hat tip, we're singing deer go. This is all making sense.

520
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: It's making me appreciate more of the place that's like

521
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: dun Laps that are still in business. But now we're

522
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: on the road again, headed to Dirk's, Arkansas to meet

523
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: up with Mr Clifton Ward. He's seventy seven years old

524
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: and he's got a wall full of deer and turkeys

525
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: hanging in the VP Quick Track gas station the highway beneath.

526
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: This feels good and I can't wait to see these deer.

527
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: So we're at the VP gas station and Dirk's Arkansas.

528
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 1: We're fixing going here and meet Clifton Ward. Let's do it.

529
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: You got your money? Brent's been buying me stuff at

530
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: every gas station? Are you? Are you? Mr? Mr Clifton

531
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: Clay Nukelen, pleasure to meet Brent Reeves. Thank you for

532
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: meeting us. So you used to own this gas station?

533
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: Is that right? We'll be old the answer. Yeah, ninety

534
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: six told him to ninety six. We'll show us you're

535
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: dear in here. We walk in the door of a

536
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: modern gas station. Honestly, it's not one you'd expect to

537
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: see a bunch of deer heads hanging in. But we

538
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: are pleasantly surprised. Mr Clifton doesn't own this story anymore,

539
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: but his deer are still here. The owner. He didn't

540
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: mind the mountain stand on the wall, and I haven't

541
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: took him down it's this time. But my wife even

542
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: didn't when we put him up, But after a while

543
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: she just couldn't believe at the interest people coming in.

544
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: Oh my good this, Oh my good, miss. So it

545
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: became a draw for people to come down here to

546
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: see these deer and the elk and be bad. I mean,

547
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't drawn. So let's see we got we just

548
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: walked in here. We got a couple of big elk.

549
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: We got one to three, four or five, six, seven,

550
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: eight big deer, two full gobbler amounts, some turkey beards

551
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: and spurs. Looks good in here. Oh there's another deer

552
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: over there. So, uh, Clifton, did all these deer come

553
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: from down here in this part of the world. This

554
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: one was a Montana deer. Let's rest of them our

555
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: count I pick out the biggest buck on the wall

556
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: and ask for the story. Tell me about that, dear, Well,

557
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: it was way bag. I'm an old school deer hunter now.

558
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: From little kid up, we hunted, but it was well

559
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: life back then. No Arterillory till I was growing. You know,

560
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: there was ten of his kids in the family, the

561
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: first five of the boys, and I number five. So

562
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: it was trickled down the line. Four years. Goody actually

563
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: made be on money and brought your own weapons. So

564
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: I've still got the first weapon every bought. Mr Clifton

565
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: hesitates as he looks at the tall time and buck.

566
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: He stares at it as if he's never seen it before,

567
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: and then he tells me the tactic he employed to

568
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: kill it road hung. We really like the road hunt

569
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: in this country. I used to not not anymore because

570
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: the way laws chain, but drove went on job side.

571
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: I was working on him. He was in the clear

572
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: cut that I was working on. Garry was so unfortunately

573
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: I got him. I'll take an honest man any day

574
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: over any other variety of man. And to clarify, there

575
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: are a lot of clear cuts and pine plantations down

576
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: here on private land. They used to drive the roads

577
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: looking for deer and cuts. Honestly, it's not a lot

578
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: different than glassen for deer out west. Now let me

579
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: let me. I want to look. I want to describe this, dear.

580
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: This is probably this is a pretty tight rack, probably

581
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen inch wide deer, but just sky, just huge times.

582
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: Do you know that any measurements on that, dear, I

583
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: don't never had a major. I would imagine that dear

584
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: is in the one seventies, do you uh no, No,

585
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I think he's a low ball on it. I'm

586
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: an official measure, so that doesn't mean I'm right. Hey,

587
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: how are you? Man? Well, I was down here at

588
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: the request of your son to meet this guy right here. Yeah, yeah,

589
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. It's a small world, and this is the

590
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: biggest unscripted coincidence of our road trip. Not five seconds

591
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: after we were guessing the buck score, Jack Johnson walks in.

592
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: Jack is a veteran official Boone and Crockett and Pope

593
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: and young Score. And he doesn't even live in Dirk's.

594
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: He was just randomly passing through. Wild Man. I want

595
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: to see what Jack thinks this buck scores. Hey, this

596
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: is a guy we absolutely need to what do you

597
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: This guy's an official score big time. This is what

598
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: he's scored, dear for forty years. Guests on this big

599
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: dear gross score had that measure. He's the one. That's

600
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: what I told Mr Clifton, and he shook his head. Hey,

601
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: his his guest counts, man counts. We both agreed the

602
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: buck would easily gross in the one seventies. That's a

603
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: big pine thicke. At Whitetail. Here's Mr Clifton giving us

604
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: a little more history on deer hunting. He had just

605
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: brought up one of his old hunting buddies. I always

606
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: grew up. I grew up with dogs and so I

607
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: had dogs and he didn't. But we got the dog

608
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: hunting quite a lot. We did a little dog running.

609
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: A lot of that goes on in this country. This

610
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: is part of Arkansas. It's legal run dogs still, he is, Yeah,

611
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: we've made hunters, but later years trying to do better.

612
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: Yea quitting dollar running. And I was in the army,

613
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: of course, unfortunately made back in Vietnam. Okay, But after

614
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: that I started trying. We had a count started. I said,

615
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: what was I start buck hunting. I'll try to tell

616
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: my buddy. And then I told him I still to

617
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: six point or better. He wouldn't agree to it, and uh,

618
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: I said, He said, you let us fine go. He's

619
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: I'll take him. I said, no, come on now. He

620
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: and I. I turned the dogs loose and they went

621
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: a different way. He run around picking me up and

622
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: we cut him off. And it's a big clear cut

623
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: that you see across. It's in the afternoon sunshine, and

624
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: it's a buck. It's probably two fifty yards running. Look

625
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: pretty big. He shoots and mrs I don't miss we'll

626
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: get over and it's forking one. You broke your own

627
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: rule first rating out of the box, but but I did.

628
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: I later went to eight pointer better and put my

629
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: dogs left him in the pen. I had twelve good

630
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: running dogs didn't turn him loose, so I started hunting

631
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: eight pointer better. The idea of regulating the size of

632
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: the bucks that he killed was revolutionary for the time.

633
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: Mr Clifton was basically the Mark Kenyon of Howard County,

634
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: Arkansas in the nineteen seventies. And he's about to give

635
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: us a tip for our next stop. I love it.

636
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Anytime I go into a gas station with the deer horns,

637
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is where I want to buy my gas.

638
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: I was traveling Handler's, Oklahoma one day and Stationers Section.

639
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had to had to miss that place,

640
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: Antlers Aler's, Oklahoma. Somebody told me we needed to go there.

641
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't have any idea if it's still there anymore.

642
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: How far is that from here? Do you know? Right

643
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: at hunter Moms one, we got enough gas to make it. Antlers,

644
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and back twice station you can buy after the tip,

645
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: we're on the road again. And the Dirk's Quick Trip

646
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: Store is one d Bear Grease Podcast approved and you

647
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: guessed it. We're headed towards Antler's, Oklahoma, but not without

648
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: checking out a few gas stations along the way. All Right,

649
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: we've driven to Hayworth, Oklahoma, from from Dirk's. We're in

650
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: Oklahoma now. We were told that there were some big

651
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: Bucks at a gas station Hayworth. Let's go see if

652
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: we can find it. Hey, are you buying drinks this time?

653
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: And it's probably my turn in I've been buying him

654
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: every time we walk into a small, promising looking rural

655
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: gas station. How are you good? Is this is this

656
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: your store? Who's that? Oh? We were told you had

657
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: some big deer down here? Are these your deer? Are

658
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: they really? You killed him? Bingo? There at least five

659
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: deer on the wall, and the one in the middle

660
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: is a big main frame ten point. What do you think, Brent?

661
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: That one in the middle, that one? Do you know?

662
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: What's that? Dear? Score? Big mainframe ten point? We had

663
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: never had him scored. The one on this end was

664
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: rough fast, It was like one fifty something fantastic Bucks.

665
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: And the one in the middle was way bigger than

666
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: the one that they thought scored one fifty it's probably

667
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty five inch deer. We approve of

668
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: the PDT of this store and we're on the road again.

669
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: And as we roll through Idablle, Oklahoma and route to Antlers,

670
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: we see a big, beautiful gas station with a marketing

671
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: campaign giving a significant and odd nod to the wild.

672
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: We pull in with our fingers crossed. We're in a

673
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: place called gas Squatch. They have about a forty ft

674
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: sign out front, a big sasquatch sign. That's a beautiful

675
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: gas station would shake shingles huge place. There's not a

676
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: dear head in here. It's gonna be upsetting. Let me

677
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: say that again. These boys have a forty foot big

678
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 1: foot as their sign on the highway. We walk through

679
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: big glass doors and are hit in the face with

680
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: extremely cold air. There are sasquatches everywhere, there's sas I

681
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: do give them credit for the big sasquatch over there.

682
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: Him not a deer head insight, though, is there? Brother?

683
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: I see a car in here, Well, you're gonna give

684
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: him a small amount of credit. They do have a

685
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: pretty nice selection of antique cars in the gas stations,

686
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: actually a very nice selection. But you know what that

687
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: doesn't count for it doesn't count for deer head. It

688
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: ain't This place is not sanctioned. This place it's cute.

689
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: God a that is a sweet trans am. I don't

690
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: know this place is cool. It is not Bargeras podcast

691
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: to prove they've done a nice job. We wish him

692
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: the best. But you know what, you should have had

693
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: a dear head in here. It could have been one

694
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: if they had one deer head hanging right up there.

695
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: Even the buffalo. I'm gonna take a picture of this

696
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: for Gary nucom and says cougar on the car. Gas

697
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: squatch is a nice place, and I'm sure somebody in Idabelle,

698
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: Oklahoma would be glad to display their buck in this store.

699
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody can make this happen. But regardless, we're on

700
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: the road again. Within a few miles though, we do

701
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: a U turn when we see a gas station called Hanks.

702
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: It's got a buck on the sign. We walk inside.

703
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: We are pumped because we can see bucks from the road.

704
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: So there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

705
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: dear seven freedom mounts one just buck mount How big

706
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: is that shoulder? Man? That that dear I'm guessing don't

707
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: forget that crazy looking bobcat. Oh yeah, we gotta. I

708
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: don't know about everybody else, but rat's hand. Oklahoma at

709
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: one time was home to some big deer. I'll see that.

710
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: Are a lot of deceased deer here. Yeah. One of

711
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: the ladies in the station shows us stacks of pictures

712
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: of deer from years past. Tell me what city we're

713
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: Reptan Oklahoma, Rettan, Oklahoma. And so this gas station used

714
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: to be, uh, the check station, and then did Oklahoma start?

715
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: And so it kind of it kind of killed the

716
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: vibe at the gas station. Pictures here from two thousand

717
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: to yah, we got two thousand two. Actually they go

718
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: back and thinking for the nineteen nineties. I'd say I'd

719
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: say we have several hundred white tail photos here, easily

720
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: going all the way back twenty five plus years. I've

721
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: always loved gas stations with deer photos, and we're looking

722
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: at a few two hundred inch deer in these polaroids.

723
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: I love it. But it's time to head out. Hey,

724
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: thank you guys, We've we've done what we came to do.

725
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: Tell tell the who now, who's dear are these? Tell him?

726
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: Tell him that we approved this gas station. There's two

727
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: random people, but probably always asked about him. And I'm like,

728
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: I'm you're just gonna have to come back and talk

729
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: to the man that owns the place, because I don't

730
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: really know much about deer or hunting them. But yeah,

731
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: we got a lot of people that come in here

732
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: and they'll just walk around and look at these and

733
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: look at the pictures. Yeah, just like you did. All right,

734
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: thank you. We're on the road again and we're almost

735
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: to Antler's, Oklahoma. We've been told there's something here we've

736
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: got to see. But on our way, our travel is

737
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: halted in sobriety and we pull off on the side

738
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: of the road and Brent teaches me something. So we're

739
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: running down the road over here, and we came upon

740
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: a funeral procession on the beautiful Friday afternoon. We've pulled

741
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: off the road. I noticed you took your hat off. Yep,

742
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: that's well, that's just a sign of respect for the

743
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: family they mourning the loss. And I have never seen

744
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: it done any other way. Really, Now, see what you

745
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: did there instructed me a little bit. I wouldn't have

746
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: instinctively taken my hat off when I pulled over on

747
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: the side of the road. Well, it's a sign of respect.

748
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: You know, you take your hat off when you walk

749
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: into somebody's house, when you're meeting a lady, you know,

750
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: you stand up, shake somebody's hand. There's little things, you know.

751
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: It tells people what kind of folks you are, where

752
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: you come from. After the last car with their lights

753
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: on passes, we're on the road again and we pull

754
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: into the big parking lot of the Chuck Tall Travel

755
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: Plaza in antlers. We walk in in our mouths drop bingo.

756
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Oh my, what do we have here? Mr Branton? We

757
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: have got a humongous bu that is by far the

758
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: biggest book we've seen all day. Yeah, that's bigger than

759
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: Miss Sanders. Right there, that's a Boon and Crockett. That

760
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: is a net typical gotta be hundred and eighty five

761
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: hundred ninety inch deer. Holy cal The deer has a

762
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: Choc Tall Plaza polo shirt over a live mount with

763
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: its own name tag. What's his name called? He's called

764
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: Howard Bucks. But that's a real that's not a replica.

765
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at those antlers. That is a main frame

766
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: six by six. Wow, way to go, Choc Tap Plasma.

767
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: I really wasn't expecting it because this this is not

768
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: a mom and cop place. This is like a big

769
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: This is like mechanical sliding motion sensor doors, CAO very

770
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: busy place. Christmas in Yeah, and they have the one

771
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: of the finest typical white tails seen a long time.

772
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: It's it's huge. Here take my picture by this, dear.

773
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: After making a bit of a spectacle, we head back

774
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: towards Arkansas with our spirits full. This has been an

775
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: incredible road trip. The one on one interactions that we've

776
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: had with people about these deer heads is notable. Misty

777
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: nuke my wife, is doing her doctoral thesis research on

778
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: the idea of social capital. I want to get some

779
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: insight from her because I feel like this whole deer

780
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: head in the gas station thing is part of a

781
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: bigger equation. Here's Misty ms Nukem talk to me about

782
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: how social capital relates to us losing our town square

783
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: mom and pop gas stations that always include a good

784
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: deer head or two. Okay, Well, first, I think it's

785
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: important to understand what social capital is. So social capital

786
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: would be like the connections that people have and the

787
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: networks of connections that people have that provide value in

788
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: a community in the same way that human capital. Think

789
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: about having people that can can work at a factory.

790
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: That factory might be more likely to locate in a

791
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: certain area if it has people who will work for

792
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: the ways that factory plays. That's a value in a

793
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: commodity in that community. Social capital it relates to the

794
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: connectivity of the people inside of a community, and that

795
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: also provides huge value. And economists have taken to there's

796
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: a lot of research out there that has emerged in

797
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: the late nineties and onward that looks at the social

798
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: capital and says, well, does it actually provide any economic

799
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: benefits because a lot of times we judge whether something

800
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: is valuable or not in terms of economic economic contribution.

801
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: It provides to community. So and it does. And it

802
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: provides value to two kids, it provides value to to

803
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: the economic welfare. I've studied how how that's connected to

804
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: academic achievement inside of communities, and so so there's all

805
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: these different ways that just the presence of certain things

806
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: and and and certain opportunities for people to connect can

807
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: build a community and can increase the not just the

808
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: sense of identity that people in that community have, but

809
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: identity is a huge part of it, but also can

810
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: actually provide tangible benefits in terms of So so you're saying,

811
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: the more places that a community has where people can

812
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: actually often physically connect, like at a at a gas station,

813
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: yes there are that community is going to be stronger financially, academically,

814
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to a community that for whatever reason didn't

815
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: have that social capital, didn't have those meeting places, didn't

816
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: have that sense of community. It become more alienated, it

817
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: would become more isolated, and trust social trust would diminish

818
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: in that community. And when that when that is lost

819
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: or when it diminishes to a certain point, then there's

820
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: a lot of things that become harder for that community.

821
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: So it's not necess sairly a one to one correlation,

822
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: but there there is a strong correlation between tangible impact.

823
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: A guy named Robert Putman wrote a book in the

824
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: mid nineties called Bowling Alone. He was looking at this

825
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: concept of social capital and he used bowling and bowling

826
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: alleys as a as like a way to actually look

827
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: at And there used to be people who would gather

828
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: on Thursday nights and they would they would bowl together

829
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: and have being part of a league connected them to

830
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: a community and connected them to people. Yet those sweet

831
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: bowling shirts probably it's really half of the half of

832
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: the there's been bowling alleys have been known to house

833
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: a few good deer heads. Yeah, you you probably should

834
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: have done I should have done that. You might have

835
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: even found more. But so that the and his idea

836
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: was that people are bowling alone now like the league's

837
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: have diminished. There used to be Thursday night bowling and

838
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: people would go and that provided a source of meaning

839
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: and a point of connectivity where they were actually, you know,

840
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: building a sense of identity. But it also provided connections

841
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: for those people that might help them get better jobs,

842
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: that might help their kids. It's not us about identity,

843
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: but that is a piece of it. It also provided

844
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: that community a sense of trust, like, well, I know

845
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Speaker 1: Bill down you know for the bowling alley. We play

846
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: against each other on Thursday nights, and so so you know,

847
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: I I trust him, and I know his son's a

848
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: good kids. So I'm going to hire on my job.

849
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Speaker 1: But it also says, well, because I care about Bill,

850
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: I also care about his son. And when I see

851
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: him driving too fast on the road, I'm gonna call

852
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: Bill and tell him, and that's gonna keep his his

853
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: child safer. And so these connections you have provide benefits

854
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: not just in allowing you to network, but also but

855
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: they do allow you to network, but they also provide

856
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: benefits and building a sense of community trust and a

857
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: sense of community awareness. And yeah, I mean I could

858
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: go on and know him, but those those things. Strong communities,

859
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: strong families actually contribute to child welfare in a number

860
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: of ways. And you can look at future outcomes for

861
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: kids and see, even if the child themselves had a

862
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: rough home life, being in a community that had really

863
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: solid homes is one of the major predictor of that

864
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: child's future success. Bowl and alone and gas stations without

865
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: deer heads are negative social indicators. Who knew. Well, we're

866
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: on the road again, headed home, but we see a

867
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: store I just can't pass by, So we pull in.

868
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: All right, this place is Brittingham Grocery, Oklahoma. Yeah, I

869
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: see they got a buck over there. Yeah, they got

870
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: a nice But I greet the owner of the store

871
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: as I walk in. He's a kind man and very

872
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: interested in what we're doing. I tell him my hypothesis

873
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: that taxidermy in gas stations seems to be going out

874
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: of style and that we're trying to change that. And

875
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: I asked him about the deer hanging in the store.

876
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: Now this is this is your business. So you're a

877
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: gas station, and so tell me what you know about that, dear. Well,

878
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: we had a good customer who lives a few blocks

879
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: away from here. His name is Zack Morgan. He killed

880
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: this deer about I guess four years ago, and then

881
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: he he just right and he just donated or put

882
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: it up there. You know, Zach knew what. Zach knew

883
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: what was going on. He's like, if I kill a

884
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: big deer, now are we in? Are we in britting Ham, Oklahoma? No,

885
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: you are in the Moyers, Oklahoma, bretting him. Is the

886
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: name used to be or still you can call it

887
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: the name of the store? Tell me your name. I'm

888
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: sorry I didn't Shaquille. And so when he brought the

889
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: deer to you, what did you think? You were like,

890
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: that's that's normal, this is good. What did you think cool?

891
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean we have seen other people too. I mean

892
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: like one time we had so many fishes here, big

893
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: fish people brought and they hanged there, and I guess

894
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: for some reason he needed it back and he took

895
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: it away, and probably that's what it is. Yeah, I guess. Yeah,

896
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: people do bring you know, those horns also sometimes and

897
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: they left it. We had few. I don't know where

898
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: they add now. But if you had fuel before, would

899
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: you consider putting more in here? Do you think you

900
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: need some more? Yeah? If anybody brings it, welcome to

901
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: bring it in. Yeah, let's go. Let's go analyze this

902
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: dear brand. So there's one big, heavy horned eight. I

903
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 1: mean like a tall racked, very heavy all the way up. Yeah,

904
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: the times are thick like bananas. The right eye guard

905
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: it looks like it's about eight inches. I would easily

906
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: say that's a mid one forties, maybe even point. Yeah.

907
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: I agree, he's hun sure, big wind, big win. This

908
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: is a Bar Grease Podcast approved business. Good job, Mr.

909
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: We're on the road again and we're headed home. We've

910
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: met some incredible people and have seen some great gas

911
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: station bucks. I've always loved a good gas station, and

912
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: it hurts me when I don't see a buck on

913
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: the wall in a place that I know should have one.

914
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: It just seems negligent to me personally. I think it's

915
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: a public validation of a way of life that I love.

916
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: But on a broader scale, a big buck on the

917
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: wall is a celebration of conservation and wild places. It's

918
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: a public tribute to the American model of wildlife conservation.

919
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: These beasts are so common they're hanging in common places,

920
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: not just in museums. At one time, it was believed

921
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: American big game was going to go completely extinct, and

922
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: they began to collect antlers and horns so that future

923
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: generations would be able to see the animals that used

924
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: to live here. I also believe that a big buck

925
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: in a public center is a platform for building community

926
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: and relationship. When you see a buck on the wall,

927
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: it should initiate curiosity, conversation, and intrigue. I rarely walk

928
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: past a mounted buck without taking a genuine gander and

929
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: sending a conscious thought. War is the circumstances of the hunt,

930
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: the person that killed it, in the wild place from

931
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: which the beast was hun. In some small way, maybe

932
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: it gives us a platform to build social capital with

933
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: those in our community. I also learned that our lives

934
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: are impacted by unseen forces like the oil industry, and

935
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: it impacts us in odd ways bigger than just how

936
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: much we pay for our fuel. Our society is changing,

937
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: but the things we truly value, we will find ways

938
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: to hold onto them. And hey, here's an idea. If

939
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: you've got a relationship with a gas station, lend them

940
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: one of your dear heads. You'll probably find that most

941
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: store owners are like Mr Shakil and happy to display above.

942
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Speaker 1: Long live the PDT and long live the Beast. Thanks

943
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: so much for listening to bar Grease. I look forward

944
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: to talking about all this stuff on the bar Grease

945
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Speaker 1: Render next week. Be sure to check out all the

946
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: Burgrease merchandise on the Meat eater dot com and check

947
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Speaker 1: out first Lights new waterfowl apparel line. See you next week.