1 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, everybody. I'm Ben, I'm Noel, and 2 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: we are joined with our super producer Casey Pegrum today. 3 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: And this is Ridiculous History. And I will tell you 4 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: he is piping a legit mixtape into my headphones right now. 5 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: I really wish you guys could hear, but we couldn't 6 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: clear the samples. So it's always the samples to get us. 7 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: Just for us. You'll have to take our word for it. Uh. 8 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Like most people, we're very into music. It's true. And um, 9 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, Ben, have you seen the 10 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: movie The Bone Collector? The Bone Collector? I feel like 11 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: I have wait, is this the Is this like the 12 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: crime film? Yeah? Where is someone paralyzed? You know, I 13 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: haven't actually seen it, it's just the name makes me 14 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: think of the topic that we're talking about today. Um, 15 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: that was a total non sequitur, but that's that we 16 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: We love non sequitors here on Ridiculous History. But yeah, 17 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: I love music, you love music. Casey loves music. I'm 18 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: telling you these samples are on fire. I really wish 19 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: you guys could hear it, but it's just for us, 20 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: right And it brings up a pretty good question. Will 21 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: will segue just a little bit here, which is how 22 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: far would you go to hear that one song that 23 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: you really wanted to hear, you know, the thing that's 24 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: stuck in your head or the um Let's see, you're 25 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: new your favorite artist puts out a new album and 26 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: you're like, I gotta get it, I gotta get it, 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: but you can't find it. Or Casey's fire mixtape or 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: Casey's fire mixtape, which is the reason we keep a 29 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: fire extinguisher in the studio. Now we learned our lesson, Well, 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: let's let's go back far far far far far far 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: far far away, all to the distant past, and not 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: that distant. I guess picture yourself Ben as a as 33 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: a child in Russia, Okay, okay, And and like you said, 34 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: you've got this tune, some sort of uh, some sort 35 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: of little ditty, a jingle if you will, that you 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: just can't get out of your head. You gotta own it, 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: you gotta get a copy on a gramophone record. And 38 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: in Soviet Russia there were record stores, but a lot 39 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: of the music that was very popular was forbidden. Oh 40 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: because you see ladies and gentlemen, friends and neighbors. That 41 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: music was Western and at the time, in the years 42 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: after World War Two, the USSR and the United States 43 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: or the Western general were in a not a hot war, 44 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: but a very cold one, a war of ideology, war 45 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: of hegemony, an attempt to control the hearts and minds 46 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: of the human species. And the USSR was pretty militant 47 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: about things that it felt we're decadent or western or 48 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: violated Communist sensibilities, especially music and art, which they considered propaganda. 49 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: This means for little Russian Ben, it's going to be 50 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: really tough to get a record that he wants it desperately, Yeah, 51 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: desperately wants And as far back a two, the Stalin 52 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: regime decided that all arts would be subject to censorship 53 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: and there would be a test applied that would determine 54 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: whether this piece of art be at music, be a sculpture, painting, 55 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: what have you. Was quote in service to socialist realism, 56 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: and this idea of socialist realism, um, it's sort of 57 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: characterized by the glorified depiction of communist values such as 58 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the emancipation of the proletariat, um by means of realistic imagery. 59 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: So jazz was prohibited in the Soviet Union until briefly 60 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: during World War Two, when Russia and America were aligned 61 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: behind the same cause. But then get to that Chili 62 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: War that you're talking about. During that the tables turned 63 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: once again, and roughly from ninety seven to the early nineties, 64 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: Russian jazz musicians were actually arrested and locked up in gulags, 65 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: and recordings from American and even British artists were particularly forbidden. 66 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: They were deemed a fascist or the term mystic came up, 67 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: which seems like an odd term of abuse. I mean, 68 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: I think the word mystic sounds like something that would 69 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: be cool. And speaking of cool, language surrounding this, here's 70 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: a glimpse into how seriously people in general, let's call 71 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: them the musical squares of the USSR. Here's all seriously 72 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: they took it. There was a common catchphrase that that 73 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: translates to something like today he dances jazz, but to model, 74 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: he will sell his homeland. Oh my god, that's heavy. 75 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: I know. Right, Let's let's unpack that. Lets literally like saying, 76 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: you listen to jazz, you're potentially a trader, right, you 77 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: listen to jazz. Therefore, whether you are like a degree 78 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: removed from a spy I think the implication is that 79 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: this kind of music would cause people to betray the 80 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: state by infecting them with some sort of like, you know, 81 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: agenda that was somehow present in jazz music. Absolutely, I 82 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: think that is absolutely the case, because we've seen the 83 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: same thing happen cyclically, or I should say similar things 84 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: cyclically with music in the past, you know what I mean. 85 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Like the music that people our age like might horrify 86 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: our elders, and the music they enjoyed might have horrified 87 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: they're elders. So there's a weird changing of the guard 88 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: that occurs. I know, I'm in an interesting spot with 89 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: my eight year old daughter because the music that she 90 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: loves doesn't really horrify me as much as it horrifies me. 91 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, maybe, you know, given a little more time, 92 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: maybe she'll maybe they'll be like the new Marilyn Manson 93 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: and she'll get into that, and then all of a sudden, 94 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: I'll be like, you know, super shocked. I swear to 95 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: you and most of us she listened to. I'm just 96 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: shocked at how freaking doll it is. And uh that 97 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: that is an interesting problem. I have this picture of 98 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: you know, uh, telling your eight year old daughter that 99 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: she should listen to more challenging music. I literally do 100 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: say things along those lives. She there's this one song 101 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: that she really loved that is literally heart and soul, 102 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: like from Big Dud and Da Da Da Dada. And 103 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: I pointed that out to her because she says the 104 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: song was so great. I'm like, kid, this is like 105 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a total straight one to one rip off of this 106 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: like piano song that every kid learns how to play. 107 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: But I digree us, Oh well, we haven't. Can we 108 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: repackage my digression? And absolutely absolutely, because let's say, um, 109 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: let's say that wasn't just a rip off, let's say 110 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: was so close that it was almost a bootleg of 111 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: that song. Facts simile if you will, there we go. 112 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: We we just did, and we hope we pull it off. 113 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Let us know right to us at ridiculous at how 114 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com? Can I say one more thing 115 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: before we pop into the side of the bootleg stuff. 116 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: There was actually even an element of this censorship that 117 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: allowed for Russian born artists to be blacklisted as traders 118 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: like you just said, or dissidence um under the Soviet regime, 119 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: and it was really easy for that to happen because 120 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: it pretty much just took getting on the wrong side 121 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: of the government. And this is actually even still happening 122 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: to this day. Artist Robbie Williams, you don't remember from 123 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: I think was it take that he was in like 124 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: a boy band, and then he had this millennium he 125 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: reportedly ready to an article and a digital spy that 126 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: I found, was banned from performing in Russia after he 127 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: released a song called Party like a Russian that apparently 128 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: made some little jabs at at Putin. Soay, they still 129 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: take that stuff pretty serious. And and the band Pussy 130 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Riot also got imprisoned for a counter cultural or counter 131 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: government protest. Yes, so they definitely are not playing around 132 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: even to this day in the former Soviet Union. So 133 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: here we are in the fifties and the younger kids 134 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,239 Speaker 1: right with a their version of let's call them hipsters 135 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: to set this up. Uh, they want this music, but 136 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: this music is banned. And without going too far into 137 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: other stories, I think we can all say that prohibition 138 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: doesn't work as well as its supporters wish it would 139 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: definitely not. I like to think of these Russian youths 140 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: as Beetnix. Yeah, a job doesn't seem o the word 141 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: beat Nick would have to come have some sort of 142 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Russian origin anyway, because you know what is it Boris 143 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: and Natasha the no good Nicks, uh robot Nick. Yet 144 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: it seems Eastern European or even Slavic. There. Here's the thing. 145 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: When you banned something, especially amongst younger kids, right, especially 146 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: if they're if they're teenagers, and they see banned things 147 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: is cool, then the first thing that happens is a 148 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: demand if it didn't exist, comes into being. And this 149 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: is where these kids begin to unite. And they called 150 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: themselves the still Yagi, which I know sounds like a 151 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: super cool specific type of subgenre vampire, it really does, 152 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: but this is still pretty cool. Well wait a minute, 153 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: what what was it? What were the names of the 154 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: vampires and that kind of middling vampire show and FX 155 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: that Gil little Toro did. They were called the Strain. 156 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: It was called the Strain, but they were called the Sky. 157 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that was good, But yeah, I mean, the heart 158 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: wants what the heart wants, right, So like these hip kids, 159 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: they wanted their damn records, and the still Yaggy, as 160 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: he said, kind of banded together. That means style hunters, 161 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: by the way, to which I think is interesting. And 162 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: this youth movement was so obsessed with like modern trends 163 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: and culture, and a lot of the stuff that was 164 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: brought back by returning soldiers who had been able to 165 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: experience modern culture broad and this communist crackdown created this 166 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: thriving black market. But how you know, when that stuff 167 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: is scarce, what happens? Prices go up? Yeah, through the room. 168 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: These are kids. They can't afford to pay those kind 169 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: of prices for for their record discs, you know, And 170 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: as a result, they were trying to find any other 171 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: way to access these records because not only would the 172 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: price be super high, but availability would be very low. Right, 173 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: So even if you did have the exorbitant amount of 174 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: cash needed to get uh, the latest Elvis Presley record, 175 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: which was, you know, a hot commodity at that time, 176 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: the black market might just be sold out to sold 177 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: out or like, as the supply diminishes, those prices are 178 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: just gonna go up, up up. But luckily, in nine uh, 179 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: there was an invention called the telepuncing recording lathe, and 180 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: it kind of blew this whole problem wide open. The 181 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: recording lathe actually allowed an audio signal to be fed 182 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: into this machine and then a lathe which is like 183 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: a like almost like a cutting tool kind of that 184 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: it actually cuts grooves into a plastic material that you 185 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: can then play back on a standard record player. Right, 186 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: and so this guy named Stanislav Philo opened a little 187 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: shop where he charged a nominal fee to allow customers 188 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: to make little voice recordings onto plastic discs, kind of 189 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: as a bit of curio tourist trap kind of deal. 190 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: But there's the real success from this came from a 191 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: different use of the lafe. He used it to make 192 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: copies of this forbidden music. So it's like pre pre 193 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: pre pre BitTorrent napster pirrating, you know what I mean. Absolutely, 194 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: And there's there's another material problem that comes in here. 195 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: So now we finally have the technology to uh to 196 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: reproduce these recordings, but we're missing something very important and 197 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: that is vinyl. There's still no vinyl because the material 198 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: that he had access to probably had to be special ordered, 199 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: expensive and not readily available as well. Wasn't something that 200 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: you could just get at a department store. So the 201 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: still Yaggi got creative. Yes, these style hunters began get 202 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: this digging through dumpsters, not stinny dumpsters, hospital dumpsters, and 203 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: they weren't just looking for you know, um, medical waste 204 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: or weird shoes or something. So we have proto Russian hipsters, 205 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: pirrating music and dumpster diving right on the same story. 206 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: History doesn't repeat, but it sure does. Rhyme man. And 207 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: they were looking for scrapped X rays because X rays 208 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: were made using thin vinyl sheets, so like X rays, 209 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: like literally like I go in with a broken collar bone, 210 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: they run an X ray and me they have to 211 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: throw it out because of laws actually that were meant 212 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: to protect against fire hazards, because this material is up 213 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: with stacks and stacks of like dusty X rays stuff 214 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: can go up in a blaze, you know, So they 215 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: had to regularly put them out to the trash. And 216 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: the STILLAGI got wise to it and basically had a 217 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: supply chain for these bootleg copies of recordings. So it 218 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: was actually a pair of customers of Philo, the guy 219 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: we talked about, the made the recordings guy by the 220 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: name of Boris Tiger and Russian Bagaslavsky. Uh. They somehow 221 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: managed to like cobble together their own version of this 222 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: Lafe cutter through like random spare parts and god knows what, 223 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: but I guess they and were able to like look 224 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: at the design of it and figure out a way 225 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: to make their own, which I think is incredibly entrepreneurial 226 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: and and and interesting. Um, and this has spawned this 227 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: entire cottage industry. Yeah, I like that phrase cottage industry. 228 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: There they would duplicate recordings onto the x ray itself, 229 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: the x ray sheet, and then they would have to 230 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: trim the disk by hand, and for me, this is 231 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: one of the neatest parts. They would burn a hole 232 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: in the center so you could put the record on 233 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: a record player with a cigarette. You can see this 234 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: process online if you would like, uh, in well, numerous 235 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: fan recordings right on YouTube. But it's also in the 236 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: opening credits of a two thousand eight cult film called 237 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: Still Yaggy. And this whole cottage industry, I guess, for 238 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, I had a name it was. 239 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: It was called the x ray press or hopefully I 240 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: can do this right, Rowant Gennis Dot. That was pretty good. 241 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: You're not bad, right, And you know you can actually 242 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: find these things today. Um, they're pretty rare and you know, 243 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: kind of counter to what their intent was quite expensive. 244 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: So I was actually able to find a couple of 245 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: listings on eBay and and and like discus. I think 246 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: I found one on disguise maybe, but they're you know, 247 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: upwards of three bucks, which is actually lower than I 248 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: would have thought. So you know, if you want to 249 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: get a piece and become a bone collector yourself, UM, 250 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: take a look. They're out there to be to be found. 251 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: And they sound really neat. They sound really neat. Now, 252 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: technically the audio quality is is going to be poor. 253 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: We just want to establish that. But you were also 254 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: encountering a piece of forbidden history. Well shall we hear 255 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: a couple of clips of this uh poor quality forbidden history. 256 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: That's a great idea, casey, if you would by I'm 257 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: back waiting when you got never work land beaby way 258 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: to too cross and so there it is. No how 259 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: would you describe that sound when you when you first 260 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: heard it, Well, it's super evocative for me. I mean 261 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm a vinyl fan in general, but when I hear 262 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: like old jazz or that kind of like tinny recording quality, 263 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: then you hear it mixed with all those pops and 264 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: clicks and the hiss of like everything and like I said, 265 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: because you're making this on a material it wasn't really 266 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: intended for, it's also going to sound like extra raw. Um. 267 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: It kind of gives me goose bumps a little bit. 268 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: It's a little bit uh ethereal and kind of spooky. Agreed. Agreed. 269 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: It's sort of the auditory version of the feeling I 270 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: get when I see old film which has still all 271 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: the all the contaminants and all the junk on the 272 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: on the cells. There's a laundry list of reasons why 273 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: these recordings were imperfect. First, the quality degraded with each 274 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: play of the bootleg because the lathes could only etch 275 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: shallow grooves into these into these sheets, and this meant 276 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: that they were in permanent. People would call it jazz 277 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: on the bones. This is so full of cool phrases. 278 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: Because they were impermanent, because each play would degrade the quality, 279 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: the demand for their production skyrocketed even higher. So I 280 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: gotta say, I'm pretty sure somebody at the hospital eventually noticed. 281 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: I mean, they may have found out about the X 282 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: rays because of a hook up inside the hospital. So 283 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: at this point, Filo does not have a monopoly anymore 284 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: by any means, you know, because all you have to 285 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: do is have an existing bootleg recording from somewhere else 286 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: on actual vinyl and then go to the nearest hospital dumpster, 287 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: not get caught, and uh hang out with your friends 288 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: who can teach you how to do this. So there's 289 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: there's almost like a hidden culture here operating under the 290 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: eye of the U. S. S R. Well, it's interesting 291 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: because I think of like Russian culture and youth culture today. Um, 292 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: there's a whole scene of super young Russian kids that 293 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: make these insane YouTube videos or they go up onto 294 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: like really really really high skyscrapers like a night and 295 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: break into empty buildings and like hang off the edge 296 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: and stuff. So like I feel like in a way, 297 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of a continuation of that like badass kind 298 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: of punk space rat of like we're gonna do what 299 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna do, and you know, we love what we 300 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: love and the government be damn. That's like living in 301 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: a regime like that almost forces you to have to 302 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of like be a bit of a of a badass, 303 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: right and a bit of a daredevil. You have to 304 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: succeed with some daring do And I really love that 305 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned the modern meme of climbing and taking those 306 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: incredible selfies because one of the things the photographers do 307 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: is they don't just try to get to the place, 308 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: They try to recreate a specific like trope or seeing 309 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, somebody hanging out of a window, somebody wearing 310 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: the same outfit doing the same selfie at the top 311 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: of the same crane. So it is I think the 312 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: best word to describe it would be badass. These, in 313 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: contrast to the prohibitively expensive actual on vinyl used to 314 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: make records, bootleg records, the bone records, these bootlegs on 315 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: X rays would cost between four to six roubles. That 316 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: was about the price of a of a typical lunch. Uh. 317 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: And not every record came from those two guys who 318 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: started what they called the Golden Dog Gang. Many people 319 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: were accidentally buying records that only had a few seconds 320 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: of music. How infuriating is that? How angry would you 321 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: be if you're thinking, oh, yes, my new Elvis record 322 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: and then you hear the opening riff and that's it 323 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: bait and switch right there, man, I'd be enraged. Enraged, Yeah, 324 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: that's a good word for it. These also led to 325 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: the development of a dance tradition. Uh, different dances. There's 326 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: one called the Hamburg style, the Atomic style. Can do 327 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: a little Hamburg Style for me right now, and then 328 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: I'll describe it to the people I cannot. I would 329 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: feel like I am culturally appropriating their struggle. Okay, do 330 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: you like how just because I didn't know it was thanks. Uh. 331 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: The thing about these dances is they had little to 332 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: almost no connection to dances in the United States. Instead, 333 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: this is fascinating. I would want to learn one of these. Uh. 334 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: They represented the still Yagi's opinion of how they thought 335 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: Americans might be dancing to these things. So it was 336 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: just kind of like they was using their imagination, yeah, 337 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: to like blindly impersonate or do an impression of their 338 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: idea of American dancers. Interesting, and there are a couple 339 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: of layers there, you know, No, it really is. I'm 340 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around it. 341 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: So it's like they were fascinated by American culture. You know, 342 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: I can think of a good example. What is there's 343 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: this rapper named Young Lean, Like we've talked about Young 344 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: Lean before and I believe he's Swedish um and he 345 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: kind of approximates like you know, Southern trap hip hop music, 346 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: but like his lyrics or something lost in translation, Like 347 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: he's a really interesting rapper, but there's something about like, 348 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: while trying to approximate this thing but not really speaking 349 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: the language, what comes out the other side is somewhat 350 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: evocative of the thing, but it's also like its own 351 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: thing and really kind of strange and interesting. And I 352 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: really like that. Yeah, it's fascinating, you know. I I 353 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: love that this conversation did range into a mention of 354 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Young Lean. Oh yeah, Ben, this is you know that. 355 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: That's what we do on Ridiculous History. We just kind 356 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: of go where the where the ridiculous rabbit may lead, 357 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: and today it led to Young Lean. And I'm gonna 358 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: quote you just a line just he says what I'm 359 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: talking about. He says, uh, I got an empire of 360 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: emotional squad. Seem me cruising, cruising in my go kart. 361 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm war Hoo, I'm warhol, I'm warrior when I'm in 362 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: Mario Kart. Okay, there's a there's a rhyme scheme. There's great. Yeah, Okay, 363 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: check it out. Let's thinking and Young Lean, if you're 364 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: enjoying the show, let us know Yeah, he's really into 365 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Arizona iced tea. That's another thing about Young Lean. But 366 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: just to wrap this up, there's a really cool connection 367 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: to between these bootleg bone records and something that was 368 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: really popular in the sixties and seventies, which was cereal 369 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: box records. So like you know, life cereal or wheaties 370 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: or honeycomb um or fruit loops or whatever would have 371 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: in the box a forty five rpm record that you 372 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: cut out literally with scissors and it's on cardboard. So 373 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: it just goes to show like the material determines probably 374 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: the fidelity and like the longevity the life of the 375 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, the record. But you could do it on cardboard, 376 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: you know. It's just really interesting. I would never have 377 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: thought that that was the case, and this is it 378 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: opened my eyes to all sorts of weird thing. Maybe 379 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: you could do it on you know, would you could 380 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: probably make a wood record? You can, I'm sure you 381 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: could quite possibly. Yeah, And again, as you said, it 382 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: may just it will have you know, it will have 383 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: inevitable effects on the quality. Was interesting too. And you 384 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: listen to a record if you turn your receiver off 385 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: your amplifier and you just stick your ear down, you 386 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: can actually hear this sound of it just through the needle. 387 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: So it's this is literally like the music is encoded 388 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: into these grooves and you can faintly hear it just 389 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: by listening to the turntable cartridge. So that's that's fascinating 390 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: in and of itself. And there's this other you know, 391 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: we're seeing this other world that exists again relatively independent 392 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: of the authorities, that there were systems of their own. Slang, 393 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: of course, a chuvak, by the way, as male still 394 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: yagi chuvika is a female still yaggy. I found the 395 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: list of the terminology, so I know we're still in Uh, 396 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: we're still in Russia several decades ago because we haven't 397 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: traveled back to the present yet. We gotta get better 398 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: at that, and they we're gonna get left behind. I 399 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: propose we I propose we travel back to the safety 400 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: of the studio. Alright, we're back, and luckily it looks 401 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: like I am uh no longer a little boy. But 402 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: I've learned a valuable lesson about the history of music. 403 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: Uh uh. We know now that we have the benefit 404 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: of looking back from the present day seventeen is we 405 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: record this, we know that The authorities were intensely aware 406 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: of the stileagy, going so far as to send informants, snitches, 407 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: rats to the bootleggers to pose his record buyers. But 408 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: we know by the nineteen sixties, restrictions began to loosen. 409 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: This was after the death of Stalin and the advent 410 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: of other recording devices like real to real tape recorders 411 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: began to make bone records less crucial to this. To 412 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: this cultural war waged through music totally, like you know, 413 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: because that's when you went out, Like speaking of because 414 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: you know Casey's Fire mixtape, but still banging in my 415 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: ears right now, I sound a little distracted. Why I 416 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: just got that beat, Casey, I don't even know what 417 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: that is. Um. But yeah, like you know, when I 418 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: was a kid, I would actually, uh, please don't come 419 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: after me, FCC or whatever. Um. But I used to 420 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: exchange smashing Pumpkins bootleg cassettes with people through the mail. 421 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: The mail. It was the whole thing. You'd meet people 422 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: on message boards and then you would like you would say, 423 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I've got this one, you know, Okay, I've got this one, 424 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: and then you'd exchange and there'd be no money would 425 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: change hands. It was literally this like internet marketplace, you know, 426 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: that was all based on like I've got something you want, 427 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: You've got something I want. It's on this disposable medium 428 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: that everyone can get there. There became like standards. You 429 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: had to have the Maxel cassettes. I can't remember what 430 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: the exactly, but it was very specific and they always 431 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: they I found about this thing called filler, where like 432 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: whenever there was room at the end of the cassette, 433 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: they would just fill it with whatever, like cool you know, 434 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: fire mixtape they had and when they wanted you to hear. 435 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: So I actually learned about a bunch of cool new 436 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: music through the filler on my Smashing Pumpkins bootlegs. And 437 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: and that's a little something about me. That's pretty cool. 438 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: That's neat fact. I didn't know that before. Uh. I 439 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: do want to say that Despy, the tactics of the 440 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: Soviet government at the time, and despite the repression involved 441 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: in the country at the time, the still yagy, I 442 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: would argue, succeeded. And now you can find these records, 443 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: these bone recordings, in museums, as you said, you can 444 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: find them in private exhibits. You can even if the 445 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: spirit so moves you participate in the in this historic 446 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: movement by going online and buying one on your own. 447 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: But as you said, it's somewhat strange that these things 448 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: were built to be affordable and accessible. Yeah, And I 449 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: actually was just digging out on eBay and there's quite 450 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: a few for sale here and they look so cool. 451 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: Then one of them is a Beach Boys I get 452 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: around U x ray roun Gun film Bones record Rare 453 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: SI or best Offer, and then we have one it's 454 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: just instrumental jazz piece x ray ruin gun film Bones 455 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: Record to twenty nine. And this one looks so cool. 456 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: It's like just you know, it's like that with this 457 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: to grette burn in the middle, and it's cut out 458 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: sort of irregularly shaped because you know, these were page 459 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: shaped and they had to be cut out in the discs, 460 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: you know, hand by hand. But it's leg you to 461 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: close up on someone's like stern um like ribs on 462 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: the side. It looks like a like something from like 463 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: the Nine Inch Nails album art or something like that. 464 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: But there are quite a few of these on eBay 465 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: and they're not that crazy expensive. There's sixty five dollars 466 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: for this one. It's a USSR one side X ray 467 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: record from fifties Bill Haley and the Saddleman Icy Heart 468 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: seventy eight RPM. It's interesting too, because I wonder if 469 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: they're all seventy eight's. Here's a t Rex one mark 470 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: bowl and t Rex for seven bucks, so not not 471 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: cheap and available. Yes, available, And do exercise caution when 472 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: you buy, well, when you buy anything online, but when 473 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: you buy these online, because some of the Bone records 474 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: were undercover bait and switches created by the authorities, so 475 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to get your saddlement record that you 476 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: paid UH a hefty amount for. And then here the 477 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: first few bars of music, and then here a very 478 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: angry and stern Russian voice giving you government warnings. Would 479 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: lecture is cold blooded. I know it's sore, but if 480 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: you have experience with this piece of musical history, we 481 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: would love to hear from you. You can find us 482 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: all over the internet wherever you find your favorite podcasts, 483 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: and you can email us directly. Right, we are ridiculous 484 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com, and we're all over 485 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: the usual social media channels and whatnot, But we really 486 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: just hope you join us again for the next episode 487 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: and what more, appropriate way to end this exploration today. 488 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: Then with a little ultra music, little bone music. Drop it, 489 00:29:49,640 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: casey a m. He led at him.