1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. For 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: this episode, I thought it would be fun. Well, we 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: thought it would be fun to flip the script, and honestly, 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: once the idea was floated at it was just taken 5 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: and I was put in the hot seat. And I 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: am now a guest on my own show. So this 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: is interesting. If you're asking as a longtime listener who 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: knows me, Yes, my palms are sweaty, and it's fine. 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: Today I'm working progress. We are going to answer some 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: questions and see what this whole show looks like from 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: the outside in. Because my two best friends, my Si Stress, 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: my roommates, my pals Jenny Smarta Vanessa Magos are here. 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: They've hijacked the mics and wish me luck. I had 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: so much fun with them on our first episode, and 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: so many of you asked for them to come back. 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: So we've heard they're here, and we had such a 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: good conversation that we've actually decided to break this up 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: into two episodes. I mean, there's just a lot of 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: tea being spilled. What do you want for me? Buckle 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: up because part one starts now. Guys, welcome back to 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Work in progress. Okay, thanks for having us. I know 22 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: it's pretty exciting. We're having a margarita. I think this 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: is going to get spicy. It's a beautiful margarita too. 24 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: You see why I'm going to marry him? Yeah, yes, huge, big, 25 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: huge news huse news. The world knows them. Just can't 26 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: stop staring at that ring. I mean, it's also like 27 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: kind of funny. I was having a conversation with some 28 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: friends today about how I've relentlessly kept my private life 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: private for almost twenty years and how like interesting and 30 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: fun it is to actually share a thing, you know, 31 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, wow, this is fun because my 32 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: friends don't have to keep secrets and everybody just gets 33 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: to party. I actually was like when I saw the like, 34 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, time period between when like we found out 35 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: and the world, I was actually just like, oh, this 36 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: is like a cool, fun like public thing. Like by 37 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: the way, my parents send all their love they're very excited. U. Yeah, 38 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: but I was shocked and also super happy that you 39 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: felt comfortable and happy to share it and to own it. 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: That's the other thing, Like I was like, ohstof gets 41 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: to own this moment instead of it being like is 42 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: that a rock on Sofia Bush's finger, like, yeah, the 43 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: questions and stuff, but no, we talked about it last week. 44 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: I feel like being able to share it in a 45 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: way that where you're finally like, oh, I get to 46 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: share my joy with other people, and like you're allowed 47 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: to do that. And I think that, like, especially the 48 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: role you're in, you constantly have to like think about 49 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: those things where other people don't necessarily have to. And 50 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: it's I think, as your friend, it was so exciting 51 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: to get to be excited with you in that way 52 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but felt so fun. I think what's 53 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: interesting too is really being able to understand that. The 54 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: reason I think for me and for so many of 55 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: our friends who do you know what I do, that 56 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: it can be really difficult is that if you're a 57 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: guy and you're like dating, you're experiencing your life, you're 58 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: figuring it out, people go like good for him. And 59 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: as a woman, if you date and you see what 60 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: you're looking for and you and you have really or 61 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: you work on having I suppose, really high standards, people 62 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: go like, what's she doing? And they're so judgmental And 63 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: so I just learned a long long time ago to 64 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: not tell anybody about what I was doing, and and 65 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: it was really fun to be like, oh no, I'm 66 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: not testing something out. I'm not dating to see if 67 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: this is what I want. I I know what I want. 68 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: This is my person. And once you've made a you know, 69 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: decision that is that large, it's like, well, yeah, then 70 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: why wouldn't I tell people? It was fun to have 71 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: it be so joyful. I didn't know how freeing it 72 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: would feel, and it was really fun that everyone else 73 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: got to celebrate rather than like I feel like all 74 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: of you guys like my my most trusted circle. We've 75 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: been a little bit of a football team. It's like block, 76 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: don't let anybody in. And now it's like it's like 77 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: no one's hanging on or like letting slip a secret 78 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: that exactly, and you want to make sure that like 79 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: are we allowed to say this or yeah, yeah, it's 80 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: really it's very fun. But it was. It was actually 81 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: very cute because I am there. There is a video 82 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: from us getting engaged, and we haven't shared that because 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: that's for us. I mean, we shared obviously with all 84 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: of you. It's unspecial, Like I truly I can't believe 85 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: the level of perfect planning that he did. You know, 86 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: I grew up like the daughter of a photographer, like 87 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: imagery is my love language. And I send it to 88 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: obviously to our parents, and my mom was like, can 89 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I send this to your aunt? Or is that bad? 90 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: Maybe I should like it's just so cute. Maybe don't 91 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: like put that out in the world. So we get 92 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: something that's for us. But it's it's very fun, it's gorgeous. 93 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: It is a commercial. What's going on over there? Um? 94 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: So we I don't know. We're taking the reins, okay, 95 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: I just need the audience, the audience, the listener ship. 96 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: Our listeners are are whip smarties to understand that. I 97 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: have no idea what we're doing. I just know it's 98 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: like Part two with with my sistras, like roommates are 99 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: back together, even though now we all live with our 100 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: significant others. Someday we'll retire to a farm together. It 101 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: will be fine. But I don't know what we're doing. 102 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: What are we doing? We're taking it from Yeah, we're 103 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: actually from now on. Sorry, guys, just me and Jenny 104 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: even us are taking it over. But we're reflecting. You've 105 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: obviously a lot has happened since we did our first 106 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: interview with you, you know, like our first official interview 107 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: with you. If you think about it, though, it's crazy 108 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: to see like how much of the podcast has grown 109 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: and like how much has come of in what it's 110 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: like been for you in your life. And it's been 111 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: so incredible to see all the people that you've impacted 112 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: through it as well. So it's been so exciting and 113 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: we're so proud of you. UM. But now we get 114 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: to ask you questions, which is so fun. UM. So 115 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to jump right in. So obviously, you know, 116 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: you interact with public figures and celebrities on in your 117 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: daily basis, like me and Vanessa. Um. But outside of us, 118 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: have there been any guests on Work in Progress that 119 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: you have been star struck by? Oh? My god, I 120 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: mean yes. I let me tell you what. When I 121 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: interviewed to Hlary Clinton and the zoom opened and she went, Hi, Sophia, 122 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I was like, that's it, take me now. I'm just 123 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: my heart has exploded. It's over. I was like, who 124 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: do I think I am? That this incredible like feminist 125 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 1: icon who, by the way, has dealt with a more 126 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: abusive bullshit than anyone. It's just like, hey, girl, I 127 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: was like, this is I think it was like as 128 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: big a deal as if like if you're listening Beyonce, 129 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: come on the show. If we ever get Beyonce and 130 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: she's like, I really like your podcast, I think I 131 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: would spontaneously combust. I just hold the mic for her 132 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: the whole time. I'm shaking now, just like I would 133 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: actually be unconscious enough at the end of beg Man, 134 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm sad I missed that I was on the floor 135 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: that I died. So yeah, like that was a really 136 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: big deal. Interviewing Dr Kendy, you know Ebra Max Hendy, 137 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: who wrote howt To Be an Anti Racist? Like he 138 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: is an academic icon, Like yes, look, there's actors who 139 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: I idolize and admire, and there's you know, musicians who 140 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: I think are so cool that for me, like my 141 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: rock stars are academics. And to have him come on 142 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: this show and actually offer me feedback about it, I 143 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, your publicist like didn't just 144 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: put you on the show. You came here and you 145 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: listened to episodes, like you wrote a New York Times 146 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: bestseller that's changing the landscape of of sort of American 147 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, identity and empathy and like, Hia, it took 148 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: me and like a good twenty minutes of talking to 149 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: him to stop sweating. I really do get very deeply. 150 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: I think it's so cool to see as your friend too, 151 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: is that you get this excited for every guest you 152 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: have on you know, like I feel like anytime I'm 153 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: talking to you and you say what you're doing thust Dane, 154 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Like how I get to interview this person? You know? 155 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: Or I can't believe Glora Sinum texted me, you know, 156 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: like you do like a fan girl, and it's like 157 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: it's really I love it because there's every person like 158 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: is exciting to you in a different way and they 159 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: all bring something different to the table. And I think 160 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: that's it's so fun about it. You know, I've never 161 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: gotten over it. No, You're like I get to do 162 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: this like this is my job, you know, and shows up. 163 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm like really, And actually, Jenny, it's funny because you 164 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: I remember, oh my god, our favorite party of the year. 165 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: I was going to bring it up having a moment 166 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: like freaking out because we saw someone we were obsessed with, 167 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: and you were like, you need to get it together. 168 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: You are famous. You cannot react like this, and I 169 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: was like, but I don't feel that way, and I 170 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: think I'm never going to get over it, and I 171 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if I ever will, but 172 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: it's okay. But it's like I also say, but you 173 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: have the space to not get over it for me, 174 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: and that moment, I was like, get your ship together, 175 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: because I want to meet this person, and you're my 176 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: way in because if I went up and was acting 177 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: a fool, they'd be like why is this person allowed 178 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: in here? But like we'd feel like, hello, I'm a 179 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: totally normal person that you can trust and have a 180 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: conversation with. You also always win the night. Like we 181 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: leave and people are like, your friend is the best. 182 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, honestly, I know, I know trust I try 183 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: very hard. Well done. You actually don't try hard. You 184 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: just are yourself. But you are like the fact that 185 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: you don't run like the Television Academy is so weird 186 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: to me because you know more about TV than anyone 187 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: and so you can talk to anyone in the room 188 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: and like, sure they don't overtly go like oh I 189 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: know her, except that they do because you have a 190 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: weirdly familiar face and everyone thinks they're your best friend. 191 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: They're like, we went to high school together, and you're like, 192 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: I promised we didn't. Um you guys. This is a 193 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: funny thing about Jenny Smart is that everyone who's ever 194 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: met hersh or they know her already. It isn't like 195 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: it was like kind of funny at person. I'm like, 196 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to have the conversation anymore. 197 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: Like we definitely have never met. I don't know how 198 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: to respond to that, but like you don't know me. Yeah, 199 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: you're like everyone, I'm sure I promise I didn't grow 200 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: up You've It's not It's definitely not. It's not me. 201 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: But it is really fun because like we go to 202 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: things and by the end of the night, everyone's like, 203 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: it's so nice to meet you and ship your friend 204 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: is so cool, like I know my friends at the 205 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: both oh my gosh, I'm blushing. And also we do 206 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: have a very good time. We know how to go 207 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: to that event. Yeah, I will say, like we have 208 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: a really good time in Vanessa. Your spiritual gift is 209 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: to be so unfazed because I'm freaking out and saying 210 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: growing and Jenny is yelling at me to get my 211 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: ship together. Because while she's not having a like outward response, 212 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: she's very excited to ask someone about like, you know, 213 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: Season two, episode four, what were the writers thinking? Like 214 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: she has all the details and you are like cool 215 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: as a cucumber, and you just move through the room 216 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: like a slow motion gazelle, and everyone's like, we want 217 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: to talk to her, and we're both running behind you 218 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: being like this is great and you managed to pull 219 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: it all together. I'm realizing in this moment where a 220 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: bit like a spider web, like we couldn't hold up 221 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: if we weren't all here, so cute love that whoever 222 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: thought I would have an endearing metaphor about a spider honestly? 223 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: But here we are, Here we are. Um, I'm gonna 224 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: take this one with us, and then you can take 225 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: the next one, only because I feel like it plays 226 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: into what we're just talking about and how much I 227 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: love television and television characters. So I'm gonna ask you, Sophia, 228 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: of the characters you have gotten to play, who is 229 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: your favorite of all time? And after that, piggybacking, what 230 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: is the character from stage of screen that you'd love 231 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: to take a crack at. Okay, Um, you know It's 232 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: tricky because I would say there are like episodes, there 233 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: are moments of things I got to do playing Brooke 234 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Davis that I'm like, oh, that's everything, you know. There 235 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: were as like a geeky, you know, girl who loves 236 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: stunts and grew up being like such a rough and 237 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: tumble tomboy. There were moments playing Aaron Lindsay where I 238 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: would get to do some badass stunt sequence and I 239 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: was just like, fuck, yeah, this is the funnest day. 240 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe this is my job. I would say 241 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: like one off if it was like, oh, just drop in, 242 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: drop out, because it's hard to pick when you've played 243 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: someone for years and years and years. But truly like 244 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: a a one off moment, I would say playing Alexandria 245 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: on Easy on Netflix was the most one because we 246 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: got to improv, and that for me, I'm so obsessive 247 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: about language, so I can get really like almost almost 248 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: almost like my obsessive compulsive stuff can come out, you know, 249 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: my sort of like little anxious person brain can come 250 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: out when I'm really trying to be word perfect in 251 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: a script. So interestingly, like the freedom I found studying 252 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: a person and coming up with a character like inside 253 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: and out, but then having like an outline of a scene, 254 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: no script, and just being able to throw stuff at 255 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: the wall. It was so fun. And you know, Jacqueline 256 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: to Bony is like the most amazing scene partner and 257 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: actually it's really funny. We um we got engaged twenty 258 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: four hours apart, Grant and I and Jacqueline and her 259 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: fiance cast that guy. It was insane. We thought it 260 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: was the same day, and then we did the calculus. 261 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: We were like, no, one day apart. But we were 262 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: all in Italy and the four of us went to 263 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: dinner recently and we were like, oh my god, cass 264 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: and I are the same person, and Jacqueline and Grant 265 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: are the same person. Like this is so insane. And 266 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: we were laughing because because we were like, oh, of 267 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: course we had such amazing like on screen chemistry. We 268 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: were basically like role playing our future relationships, and it 269 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: was it was just the best. And I think, you know, 270 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: working as an actor, sure people are good at their jobs. 271 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: But when you're good at your job and then you're 272 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: working with someone who's really good at their job, what 273 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: you can create. It's like you you create like multiples 274 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: of talent, and I feel like we had that and 275 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: it was really fun for me to have it not 276 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: in something I've been doing for a long time, because 277 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: my brain again like my my sort of anxiety, my 278 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: like inner critic presentation is like, well, you've been doing 279 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: this forever, like you know this character better than anyone. 280 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: Of course, you've gotten really good at it. But to 281 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: like drop into a place and just be like, oh no, 282 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: we were really good. And it's also a show you 283 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: were such a fan of going into. Yeah, that's another 284 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: thing that I think is so special is that you 285 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: got to go into and be like I'm already obsessed 286 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: with all of that. I get to be a part 287 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: of this, Like I think about I remember reading about 288 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Banks like being like I want to be on 289 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: Modern Family and she played like the drunk college friend 290 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: in one episode because she was just such a fan. 291 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I did with Easy. I was like, 292 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: this show is the best. I have to be on it. Literally, 293 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't care. It could be one scene. I just 294 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: want to go play. And then we did this full 295 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: episode and it was so fun and yeah, I think 296 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: I think to date that might be one of, if 297 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: not my best kind of moment as an actor, did 298 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: not see that coming. Well, here we are, and honestly, 299 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: I must say, like to the people listening who are 300 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: part of the community, when like when the memes were 301 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: just like she gives the gays what we want, and 302 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: I was like, it was my honor. I did. I 303 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: am here just a heart attack. But yes, I mean, 304 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: I love your girlfriend and I'm sorry I didn't better 305 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: prepare her. Sheared her friends naked on screen. I will 306 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: say that, um baby, just um. And then the second 307 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: part is what is a character from stage or screen 308 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: that you'd love to take a crack out? That's a 309 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: great question and I honestly feel like all of us 310 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: should answer that because how fun wit. Yeah, No, I 311 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: want to know first you go first. I mean, I god, 312 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: that's so hard because there's like weird, there's like interesting 313 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: small you know, movies or things that I feel like 314 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: no one seen Where I go. I want to do that, 315 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: Like there's multiple roles. Cate Blanchett has played where I go, 316 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would kill to have done this movie. 317 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: And then on the on the sort of larger scale, 318 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: like I just want to play a superhero. What are 319 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: we doing? I was just like I was like, literally, 320 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm like I would want to play Lena Florence obviously 321 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: kills it. There's no one better. But when it comes 322 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: to a character that gets one be super badass but 323 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: also be funny and also emotionally like connected, it's like, damn, 324 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: that's such a good character. Totally agree the whole time. 325 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: Obviously we were all together the whole time that, like 326 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: we saw a Black Widow that we were sitting watching 327 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: Black Widow. I was like, Oh, it's like the hull 328 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: of a lifetime because it's so funny, but then you 329 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: get stunts like and I also love that it. You know, 330 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: it flips a sort of traditional story and especially a 331 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: comic book universe where for so many years women have 332 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: kind of been objectified and like blah blah, everybody knows. 333 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: But it's this movie that, interestingly, I'm realizing in this 334 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: moment kind of does what like Hillary and I got 335 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: to do on One Tree Hill, like these two best 336 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: friends that are kind of like sisters, like we were. 337 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: The love story. It wasn't romantic, but we love story 338 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: really is a love story between these two female characters, 339 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: these sisters, and I would love it, but It's like, 340 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: no one could be Black Widow better than Scarlett, no 341 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: one could be Elena better than Florence. We bowed down. 342 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: She's perfect. So I'm like, who's the Who's the next 343 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: woman in that world where I could go and be 344 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: my ultimate like nerdy tomboy self, do stunts, shoot guns, 345 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: play games, and like getting my face off because it's 346 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: not easy to have an emotional scene when things are exploding, 347 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: and like I would love that, Vanessa, who do you 348 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: want to be? I don't know. I honestly don't know. 349 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: That's too hard for me. I think you can jump 350 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: into there. I really somebody anyone, favorite movie, favorite TV show, 351 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: favorite character that you're like, damn, like that gets too excited. 352 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: Maybe that's just me being a nerd, but like characters 353 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: get me excited. I I totally get that, and I 354 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: feel the same way. But I've never like seen myself 355 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: in it. I guess in that way fair enough. I 356 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I can't think of one that I feel 357 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back and we'll come back to You're 358 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: going to ruminate on that and then you please take 359 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: the We're gonna be in the middle of a point 360 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: in like thirty minutes and els gonna go like that's 361 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: who it is. Um, oh we kind of. I've feel 362 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: like we've got to answer that next question. I'm curious. 363 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: This isn't on here, but I'm curious the transition from 364 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: like the role you play on Work in Progress and 365 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: like hosting two, then like going on set and playing 366 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: this role and being in a completely different thing, Like 367 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: what is that balance like for you? Like jumping back 368 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: and forth between us. You know what's really interesting I 369 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: thought about this recently. I really love my job, like 370 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: I love being a storyteller, and when I really feel 371 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: connected to a character, like good God, I feel so 372 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: connected to Sam and everything about her gives me a 373 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: way to be expressive more fully as a person. And 374 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: I think the thing that's always created like a little 375 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: bit of dissonance for me. I mean, look at us, 376 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: look at our friend group. We know each other so deeply, 377 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: we show up in such like truly connected intimate ways, 378 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Like think about the number of people over years were 379 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: like how do I create a friend group? Like you're 380 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: a friend group? And we each get that question. Yeah, 381 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: So the cognitive dissonance for me, the thing that always 382 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: has been really hard is that in our inner circles, 383 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: we we each get to be exactly who we are. 384 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: And then I'll go out in the world and people 385 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: treat me as though what I do is who I am, 386 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: and it makes me feel really reduced. And it's often 387 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: very critical because people are criticizing a product, but they 388 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: treat you, they treat me, they treat entertainers like products. 389 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: It's really hard. It's like very emotionally taxing. And what 390 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: I realized in stepping into the space with the podcast, 391 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: which basically was, Oh, I'm going to take every cool 392 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: activist conversation I'm in in private rooms and and let 393 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: anyone who cares to listen to them listen anyone who 394 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: wants to like learn, explore, be challenged, feel challenged, like 395 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: all all of the things. Um, I feel like this 396 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: is a great way to sort of spend the privilege 397 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: of the rooms I'm in. And what I realized is 398 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: it actually enabled me to be more completely myself in 399 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: public because it's not about me. It's about the guests. 400 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: But it's also about empathy and curiosity and a willingness 401 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: to change your mind when you get more information, and 402 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: and it it's not a commodity. It's like it's like 403 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: an intimate space. I genuinely feel like I'm inviting people 404 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: into my living room and I know what it's done 405 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: for me, and I know what it's done for them, 406 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: and I really feel like it has in the way 407 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: that people meet me now. I feel like they actually 408 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: see me like a human, not like a product. And 409 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: so it's like it's crazy because it's it's been so 410 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: incredible for me, and then people tell me how incredible 411 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: it's been for them. You know, people will say, I 412 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: didn't know how to talk to my parents about this 413 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 1: issue until I heard this, and then I asked them 414 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: to listen to this episode with me. Like, that's the 415 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: highest compliment of my life. It's so much better than 416 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: someone saying, oh, I like this character you played, which 417 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: is fabulous. No, and you can also do that. That's 418 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: what's so incredible about what you do is but they 419 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: just look very different. And I think it's been so 420 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: awesome to see because you're probably the smartest person I know, 421 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: and no truly, and the amount of people that I 422 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: know that go to you or go to your Instagram 423 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: or go to your Twitter to educate themselves on things 424 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: because you are actively pursuing people who are actually experiencing 425 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: these things, and you're asking them the questions and then 426 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: you're sharing them with your audience. You know. It's like 427 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: it's so incredible to witness that. But yeah, I really do, 428 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: like you said, I feel like people are actually getting 429 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: to like the curtains been lifted and they're able to 430 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: sit down with you, and like what that's meant for 431 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: your fans too. They have gotten to follow you and 432 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: learn from you, and like, even for me, you're one 433 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: of my best friends. But I listened to the podcast 434 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I learned something today, and I 435 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: learned with you, you know, because I get to hear 436 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: you be like oh, and like that's been so so incredible. 437 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: But do you feel like have you have you felt 438 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 1: like your fan base is like come on that journey 439 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: with you, and like, really like I learned a lot 440 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: through those experiences, like you said, like you hear from 441 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: people being like I had this conversation because of that episode, 442 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: or yeah, I definitely feel like a lot of people have. 443 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting. More recently, I feel like it's a little less. 444 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: I feel like getting back into work and like are 445 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: we opening are we not what's happening in the world 446 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: of God and God Like there's so much stress. I 447 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: feel like people have a little less time. But what's 448 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: actually been interesting in the last couple of weeks is 449 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: I've we've gotten messages from people saying, you know, things 450 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: got really hectic, and I kind of fell off. And 451 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: then I was feeling really overwhelmed, and I went for 452 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: a walk and I listened. I picked up where I 453 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: left off. I listened to an episode and it did 454 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: this for me. It that for me, and that to me, 455 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. So you know, it's it's 456 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: not lost on me that anyone choosing to listen is 457 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: giving me the gift of their time. And I see 458 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: that this sort of like pathway to um a more 459 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: gentle curiosity and like a permission for us to just 460 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: be together. I know what it. I know what it 461 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: is for me, and I see what it's doing for 462 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: other people. And so I really do hope that it's 463 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: the kind of place that people always know they can 464 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: come home to. Like that what a what an ending 465 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: to that question? You know I have some space. That's 466 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: so nice. UM, I guess this is a good question 467 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: to kind of follow up on that one, because it 468 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: has to be with the fans. What would be like, 469 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, the reaction to you and what's the most 470 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: unexpected fan interaction you've ever had and why? Okay, so 471 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: it was one. It's like such a reality check that 472 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, we all have a little bit of imposter syndrome, 473 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: like what is happening? And this is such a rare 474 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: thing that could happen to a human And I still 475 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: can't believe what happened to me. First that I I 476 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: got to be an incredible too, because I'm the biggest 477 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: Pixar fan on planet Earth and Incredibles is my favorite 478 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: picks far movie ever. And then I did the movie 479 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: and well, I guess it's two fold. Like Brad Bird 480 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: saying I love your voice, will you come be in 481 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: my movie? I was like, hello, what sir? What? Like 482 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't Yeah, I was like, I couldn't get over. 483 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: I was also like this was obviously way pre COVID 484 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: and I was in a restaurant on the West Side 485 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: when I got the letter and I started screaming and 486 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: like people thought something that people like trying. I was like, 487 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's really good news. It's good news. I'm screaming, 488 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: it's good news. So that was crazy. And when the 489 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: movie you know, was coming out, there were all these 490 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: exciting things happening and there's this big, like incredible event 491 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: in New York um and they asked me if I 492 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: would go and present an award to Brad Bird, And 493 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: I was like, this is so nuts. Yes, like okay, 494 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: And I was like was everyone else busy? Like that 495 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: was obviously first thought. I was like sure, And I 496 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: honestly think him and his wife were just like she 497 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: loves this movie so much and isn't over it and 498 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: everyone else is over it because everyone else is like, yes, 499 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: we do this for a living, and I'm in my career, 500 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: like I can't believe I get to be here. So 501 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: I I, you know, I go out and there's a 502 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: sometimes at events, you guys know, like they have that 503 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: backstage zone where they do portraits. There's like a little 504 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: photographer comes in and sets up a portrait studio because 505 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: they want to photograph everybody who's coming and presenting and 506 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: attending and blah blah. And I went they said, you know, 507 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: can you come to the portrait studio? And so I 508 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: go back there and I'm like, this is cool, and 509 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, I got to stand up really straight, and 510 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: like this dress is really time. You know, I'm having 511 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: all the self conscious boones. And Barry Jenkins is getting 512 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: photographed and he's just like one of the directors I 513 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: must look up to. I just I'm in awe of 514 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: what he does. And he also is in the suit 515 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: that is so fu and I'm like, very fucking Jenkins. 516 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: This guy is so cool. So I'm just like standing 517 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: off to the side, probably like why did I do 518 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: a big smile on my face waiting for him to 519 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: be done, because then I'm supposed to go. And he finishes, 520 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: and the photographers joking, nam, hey, great, thanks, thanks, blah blah, 521 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: and I started walking and I'm like hello, and I said, 522 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, um, I'm just gonna high you know, it's 523 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: so nice to meet you. Um. I was like, you know, 524 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: my name is Sophia, and I just I'm so thrilled 525 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: we're bumping into each other in this moment. Barry, I'm 526 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: such a huge fan of yours, and he goes, I 527 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: am a huge fan of yours. I really admire not 528 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: just your career but what you've done with it. Boom 529 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: and I literally was like I've burst into particles. I 530 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: don't exist anymore. It was like I was so unprepared 531 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: for that. And we just stood there and we were 532 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: holding because we've been shaking hands, and then you know, 533 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: I was like, Barry Jenkins, never let me go. It 534 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: was so incredible, and I realized it was weird because 535 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: I just didn't expect a person who I am a 536 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: fan of to be a fan of mine. And I 537 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: think because I've I've lived most of my career on 538 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: location away from the industry. I don't know a lot 539 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: of people in the industry. I have not met a 540 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: lot of people in the industry. It's just like me 541 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: and the construction guys and the grips and like the 542 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: transfer drivers going out for beers, like going to baseball games, 543 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: like I don't I don't interact with other like Hollywood people, 544 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: and it it really meant a lot to me that 545 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: he was kind enough to take that moment um. So 546 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: that was like a crazy that was a fan interaction 547 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: with them when I'm a fan of and I will 548 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: say that you know, over the years, I've had so 549 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: many incredible experiences with people and the kindness um there's 550 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: a young woman named Haley who I've I've now been 551 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: in touch with for I mean, my god, over a decade. 552 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: When I first came to know because she would post 553 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: about being in treatment for really aggressive lime disease. She 554 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: really went through a hard time, and her mom would 555 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: make these little paper doll cutouts of our one tree 556 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: held characters to put on her ivy bag in the hospital, 557 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: and she would tweet about it. And I'm obviously obsessively 558 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: checking social media because I'm just like reading news articles, 559 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: and I would see these things and I was like, God, 560 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: how cool. And then and then her mom was doing 561 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: it for Chicago p D. And then I can't explain it. 562 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: I just felt like this was such a special human 563 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: and we wound up getting in touch and turned out 564 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: there was like an industry. She was really passionate about that. 565 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: We had a friend working in Elizabeth Cott, and Elizabeth 566 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 1: hired her as a summer intern because I was just like, 567 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: I can't I don't know, it was just weird. I 568 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: can't explain it. Like there's millions of people who have 569 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: interacted with and every once in a while you go, oh, 570 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm supposed to be here with this person right now. 571 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: And unfortunately I've had the other the flip side of that, 572 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: which is gross. Like we had a girl in North Carolina. 573 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: You weren't there, v but Jenny and I like there 574 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: was a year where there was a girl who was 575 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: like pretending to have cancer so she could come to 576 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: the set of our show. And it was like really 577 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: dark and it really honestly broke my heart. And it 578 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: kind of was like I was like, oh, I don't 579 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: want to become a person who doesn't trust people. But 580 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: it like it was like it rocked a lot of 581 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: our worlds because we all kind of went out of 582 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: our way to ye like our cast, our crew are producers, 583 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: people really like put themselves on the line to do 584 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: work for someone. And I think interestingly, like you know, 585 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: sweet Haley was like the universe being like, no, don't 586 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: give up, and we're still in touch, and I just 587 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: think the world of her, And and like for a 588 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: person to say I am in a moment of suffering 589 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: and you're helping, like it it cuts really deep, Like 590 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: it it really reminds you of how fortunate you are 591 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: if you can create, whether by interacting or just by 592 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: making something for someone, If you can create respite for anyone. 593 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: And similarly, I had that experience doing USO tours and 594 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: like going to Air Force spaces around the world and 595 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: meeting you know, service members and their families and their kids, 596 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: and and realizing that there's a you know, a network 597 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: that exists just for these places of TV shows and like, 598 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: how lucky I am that mine was one so I 599 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: could entertain people who are halfway around the world from 600 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: everyone they love. UM And yeah, I don't know, I've 601 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: I've really had some unbelievable experiences. But I will say, 602 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: like in the social media age, where it's so deeply 603 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: uncomfortable again to like, hi, Maggie, in case anyone here's jingling, 604 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: that's my dog's collar. It can be so deeply uncomfortable 605 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: to be treated like a thing and not a person. 606 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: People will stick their cameras in your face, and they'll 607 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: take videos of you while you're eating and likes. It 608 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: really affects me being a sensitive person now in this 609 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: like deeply digital age where everything goes on the Internet. 610 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: When I meet a person, especially like someone who's holding 611 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: their iPhone in their hands, who just wants to say, hey, 612 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: I loved this. Can I shake your hand and then 613 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: they leave and I'm like, oh, they didn't. They didn't 614 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: ask for a picture, they didn't ask for like a story. 615 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: They didn't ask me to like FaceTime their sister by 616 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: the way, which can all be nice, but when someone 617 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: says no, I don't want something from you, I just 618 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: want to tell you something and then leave, it's like 619 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: it startles me every time it happens, and every time 620 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: it happens, I'm like, you're so nice. It's refreshing, Yeah, 621 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: because it's just like it's an interaction for us, it's 622 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 1: not an interaction for anything or anyone else. And it's 623 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: definitely made me full circle in moments like shaking hands 624 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: with Barry Jenkins, be like, don't ask him for a selfie. 625 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: We're not doing that. We're just gonna shake hands and 626 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: at the moment, granted, I'm talking about it on the 627 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: podcast and Barry, if you're listening, you're perfect. But it's 628 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: even reminded me of like when I meet my idols, 629 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: to just be in the moment, and so I'm actually 630 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: really grateful, like I don't I don't know if the 631 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,479 Speaker 1: people who have done that for me thought like I'm 632 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: teaching her a lesson, but they have and it's been 633 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: really it's a thing I'm really grateful for. Yeah, I 634 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: love that it's a really long answer to your question, 635 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: but I have I think it's I think I think 636 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: that's a great response to that kind of a question 637 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: because I've been with you for a lot of interactions, 638 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: some good, some not so great, you know, some really funny. 639 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: I actually just remembered the other day the Kilman's Night, 640 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: and I started laughing so hard because like that, it 641 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: was so wild in so many ways, and like it 642 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: it would end up being totally fine, but it was 643 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: like a situation once again where like I had been 644 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: around Sophia long enough to see a lot of people 645 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: are well intentioned, but like you said, forget that you're 646 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: human beings. So a lot of the times it's like 647 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: you can't see them for some reason when they're like 648 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: you're standing right in front and they're like point at you, 649 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: were like scream about you were like take out their phone. 650 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: And in this one moment, it was like I snapped 651 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: for the first time and we were in line getting 652 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: ice cream and like maybe like five people ahead or 653 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: behind us spotted Sophia, which is very exciting and they 654 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: got very excited, but instead of just coming over and 655 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: say high, they just started like pointing at her like 656 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: truly like they were at the zoo and they saw 657 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: like an endangered like species. And I literally lost it 658 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: and I just like went crazy and like pointed right back, 659 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: like very intensely, like she's right here, guys, like you 660 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: found her. Like just was like it was super but 661 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: end up being like a very fun good time. But 662 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: like that was probably my first time that I was like, 663 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: oh this is this is just like NonStop and wild, 664 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: and it was kind of also I think a wake 665 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: up call probably for them to be like, oh, yeah, 666 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: like she has eyes and also has the ability to 667 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: hear and see us, and we should probably treat her 668 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: like a person. Um. I also love that You're like 669 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: I went crazy. I'm like you were so funny and polite, 670 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: but you did you just like just like kind of 671 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: like doing the cartoon version of what they were doing 672 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: and being like, oh my god. It was like it 673 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: was like the Prices right, and everyone wound up black. 674 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: It was like a great time. Really diffused it well, 675 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: but I was very I was very amused and grateful 676 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: in that moment, and I will say, like, shout out 677 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: to kill once because it's my favorite shot from Wilmington's. 678 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: And the people who worked there, we were all on 679 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: a first name basis because I went almost every day, 680 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: and they they were like we looked up and realized 681 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: all our friends who were like serving ice cream and 682 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: making the waffle cones were like dying laughing. And it 683 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: just turned into a thing where everyone was laughing. And 684 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: I've certainly had interactions with people that haven't turned into 685 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: make something funny, and you really know, you made everybody laugh. Well, 686 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: so at the end it's like everyone got pictures. We 687 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: all said hello, but it was like I just I 688 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know why. I just couldn't 689 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: at that moment, couldn't hand. I lost my mind a 690 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: little bit and I was like, this is wild because 691 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: you don't You don't actually, I will say, like, you 692 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: don't realize how weird it feels until it happens to you. 693 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: And I certainly understand there's probably people listening rolling their 694 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: eyes being like oh, yeah, I bet that bad, But 695 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: when it happens to you, you're like, oh, this is 696 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: actually really really weird and uncomfortable. Uncomfortable and I didn't 697 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: understand that this would be uncomfortable until I experienced it, 698 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: and so it was kind of cool in that moment. 699 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: Have you be like I can't hand it was like cool, 700 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: it's not just me, it's and listen, I've been in 701 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: the other I've been the other person. I mean, I 702 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: don't know that though we understand, like I've definitely frozen. 703 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean I can't say I have like been quite 704 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: as like outlandish with like but like we all think 705 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: we're being coy of being like, oh my god, look 706 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: over there. It's like it's so and so and then 707 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: the other person. Like you have those moments you just 708 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: want to be respectful. I mean I I was seated 709 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: next to Beyonce, J and Blue at lunch one day 710 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: and I blacked out, like, I don't know, I haven't 711 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: ordered I ordered lemonade. I've never ordered lemonade a day 712 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: in my life. And I ordered lemonade and then they 713 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: said they didn't have any and I was like, I 714 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: have iced tea. And I was with a few of 715 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: our friends and they started bringing drinks and I grabbed 716 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: one and started drinking it, and our friend Cameron goes, Vanessa, 717 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: what are you doing and I go, I'm drinking my 718 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: iced tea. He goes, that's my beer. I honestly couldn't 719 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: even taste. Actually, I literally could not function. That's the 720 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: only time in my life I've that's happened to me. Wow, 721 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I I think about the 722 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: fact that that happened to you at least once a month. 723 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know how you were so cool about it. 724 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: That's a shocker that one's like that. But when you're 725 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: in that space, I actually but I've been in like 726 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: with you or like in other situations at events where 727 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: we get to go to these amazing events and it's 728 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: so awesome, and I've been around beyond sand before and fine, 729 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: but they had to security guards like sitting right next 730 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: to them, and they kept staring at us every move made, 731 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: and so it made me feel very nervous. And I 732 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 1: think that just like spiked everyone's adrenaline. I was literally 733 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: drinking a beer and I was like, well, one of 734 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: the things I thought was the funniest when you came 735 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: home and told us that story was you were like, obviously, 736 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: we're all on our phones every single second of the 737 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: day because we work on them. We like use them 738 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: as cameras whatever. When you were saying that, every time 739 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: you picked up their phone, the security guards like kind 740 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: of got out of their seats and you're like, I'm 741 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: not trying to give us as death stare. I was like, honestly, 742 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: it just was needed to look at anything else, Like 743 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to look at her, so I'm checking 744 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: my help. Yeah. I don't know what I would have 745 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: done in that, but those those are like when you 746 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: know you're not supposed to bring attention, that makes it 747 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: even worse because you're like, everything I do, I'm just 748 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: thinking about it. You think I'm thinking about it, you know, 749 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm thinking. Like when someone's like the one thing I'm 750 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: going to tell you right now not to think about 751 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: his cookies, immediately your brain is like a dancing cookie commercial. Yeah, 752 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: it's like I can't you can't move. Yeah, it's a weird. 753 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: Even as I'm town, you're much better at being stoic 754 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: than I am. Could you imagine if at that lunch 755 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: I've been like, um, in case you're ever interested, I 756 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: have a podcast so hideous. I'm glad I wasn't bears. 757 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: Everything would have been ben rough, especially because so many 758 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: people when they meet me are like, huh, you're pretty 759 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: liberal for your family. I'm like, I am not. My 760 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: dad is from Canada, i am not related to the 761 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: former president of the United States. I do not come 762 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: from whatever Texas money that that's not my life, Like, 763 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: it's not it's a different situation. But it throws people 764 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: in the industry. They're always like, huh, you know because, 765 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: by the way, Jenna who's so lovely, Jenna Bush is 766 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: a host on Oh God, g m A right, what's 767 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: wrong with me? In the morning show? I think it's 768 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: Good Morning America anyway, not the point. She's so nice, 769 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: but like I think because she's also on TV and 770 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: like we're around the same age, and she also has 771 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: brown hair, Everyone's just like, wow, you mus really with 772 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: the black sheep. But you're a family, and I'm like, 773 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm a family of immigrants. So I have nothing to 774 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: say about this. But nobody knows what to do with 775 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: me when they meet me, and they don't know they 776 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: don't know. Well, this was a lot of fun. Do 777 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: not forget that this is just part one of my 778 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: conversation with my cster as my roommates, my best fees, 779 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: Jennia Vanessa. Before we go, I just want to thank 780 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: you all for listening and supporting work in progress.