WEBVTT - 032523 What’s Wrong with Being Woke? (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic Cipher. Army host Ramsy's

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<v Speaker 1>job is Rams This job, I am q ward.

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<v Speaker 2>You are tuned into Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more gain a lot to stick around for it

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<v Speaker 1>today because there's a lot going on in the world today.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me be the first to tell you we

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<v Speaker 1>need to help each other out. Let's let's put it

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<v Speaker 1>like that, all right, So first up on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to be talking about wokeness. As you

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<v Speaker 1>may know, being woke is somehow under attack or it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a bad word as a blade. And you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Always say they always find a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy? But I always say, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wild because would you rather be sleep? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just, you know, just the language in and

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<v Speaker 1>of itself is harmless. But you know, we're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna peel back some layers there and redefine that for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody so that you don't no longer have to be

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of being woke. You understand a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>history there, and you recognize the tactics that are being

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<v Speaker 1>used as always to try to minimize or diminish efforts

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<v Speaker 1>on the part of a progressive facet of this country,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to move us more toward what we consider to

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<v Speaker 1>be a racial utopia. We're also going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Bill nine in Florida, so that means more Ron

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<v Speaker 1>DeSantis aka Donald Trump two point zero again, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of nonsense, a lot of fear mongering, and a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of misinformation. And as we know, people are susceptible

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<v Speaker 1>to misinformation, so we're going to be talking about that

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<v Speaker 1>as well, informing you best we can with respect to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to dedicate our way Black History fact

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<v Speaker 1>to the late King Khalif Browder because he's deserving of

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<v Speaker 1>it and you definitely need to know about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, let's discuss some ebony excellence. Q. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Shall we shall so?

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<v Speaker 1>Ebny excellence? This week is brought to you by Hip

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<v Speaker 1>Hop Weekly Media and I'm reading from Fenura. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it's pronounced. We're gonna celebrate the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only Gail King. So without further ado, broadcast journalist Gail King,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the co host of CBS Mornings, recently accepted

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty ninth Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Arizona State Universities Walter Cronkite School of Journalism

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<v Speaker 1>and Mass Communication. Full disclosure, Q and I are both

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona and we have a distant relationship with that school,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were very proud that they took the time

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<v Speaker 1>to honor a Gail King, a black woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Forgetta Gibson too, who indeed, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>She was Yeah, shout out Yetta. But anytime we get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to celebrate someone, especially in the space that

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<v Speaker 1>we're in, we realize how difficult it is to work

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<v Speaker 1>in journalism and media, so we wanted to take a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep reading. There's a quote. We are very excited

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<v Speaker 1>to honor Gail with the thirty ninth Walter Conkite Award

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<v Speaker 1>and celebrate her tremendous career, Cronkite School Dean Batino L.

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<v Speaker 1>Bats Junior said at the event. It goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>say she has had a profound impact on a journalism

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<v Speaker 1>industry and the communities across the nation that benefit from

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<v Speaker 1>her excellence in reporting and storytelling. King is often recognized

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<v Speaker 1>for her longtime friendship with media mogul Oprah Winfrey. The

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<v Speaker 1>two women met when they were working at a local

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<v Speaker 1>television station in Baltimore. King has worked as a reporter

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d C. And Kansas City, Missouri, before becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a news anchor in Hartford, Connecticut. In addition to serving

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<v Speaker 1>as co host for CBS Mornings, King if also editor

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<v Speaker 1>at large for Oprah Daily and hosts a live weekly

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<v Speaker 1>radio show on Sirius XM. Gail King in the House.

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<v Speaker 1>King's net worth, I don't know why that's here, is

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<v Speaker 1>valued at forty million dollars according to Celebrity Networth. So

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, all right, Now, moving on what's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with being woke?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a video. I think we both saw this

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<v Speaker 1>video this week. It was of a woman, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in some sort of on some sort of show. The

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<v Speaker 1>host was black, a black woman, and the woman was

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<v Speaker 1>the guest was a white woman. And the guest says

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<v Speaker 1>something like, well, you know, the radical left because of

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<v Speaker 1>their woke black practices and blah blah blah blah work,

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<v Speaker 1>they're woke agenda something like this she said. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the host says, well, what does woke mean to you?

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<v Speaker 1>To find woke for me? And then the guest, the

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<v Speaker 1>white woman, she started to kind of fumble over her words,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, well, oh god, this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of those moments that goes viral, and sure

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<v Speaker 1>enough it did, because of course we saw it. But

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<v Speaker 1>again she proceeded to fumble, you know, through her idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what wokeness is, which I think illustrates she's not

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<v Speaker 1>the only person to fall victim of that. Many people,

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<v Speaker 1>when they're asked to define what wokeness is are either

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<v Speaker 1>forced to explain that wokeness is kind of a person

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<v Speaker 1>who is enlightened with respect to how folks are mistreated.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a loose definition. We'll actually get to the

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<v Speaker 1>real definition. And oftentimes that person wants to pursue a

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<v Speaker 1>reality where people are treated more fairly. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>people attack wokeness, people who attack wokeness are forced to

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<v Speaker 1>identify it. Then they're forced to kind of come face

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<v Speaker 1>to face with the idea that they're on the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>side of history. To be frank, and so not to

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<v Speaker 1>pick on any one person, because we recognize that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is susceptible to and that is.

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<v Speaker 3>However, not not unique to woke or wokeness.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, like words like socialism, words like critical race theory,

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<v Speaker 4>words that the other side, if you will, uses in

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<v Speaker 4>poor context to stoke the fear or hate or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever their agenda is with their audience, and then their

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<v Speaker 4>audience just adopts it.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't do any research, they don't they don't even

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<v Speaker 3>seek to understand beyond that, and when faced with having

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<v Speaker 3>to identify what it is, they either have to admit

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<v Speaker 3>out loud that they have no idea, which happens way

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<v Speaker 3>more than you would imagine, or they do know and

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<v Speaker 3>they have to, like you said, present the actual definition,

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<v Speaker 3>not just to their audience but to everyone that's listening

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<v Speaker 3>and reveal themselves on the wrong side of whatever argument

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<v Speaker 3>that they're having.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a crazy thing to see happen. These people

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<v Speaker 1>flounder about, and the best ones are the ones when

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<v Speaker 1>they do come to terms with the reality of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have to try their best to try to

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<v Speaker 1>make this beautiful sounding definition have some sort of sinister

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<v Speaker 1>element to it, and it's not possible, because wokeness in

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<v Speaker 1>truth is something that all people should aspire to. Now, granted,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a slang term, and I won't keep you waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's go ahead and read the definition. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is perfectly googleable. In fact, I just copied and pasted

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<v Speaker 1>in its entirety because I do want to present both

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<v Speaker 1>sides googleable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, Yes, but I implore you to do

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<v Speaker 1>the same, just so you know that we're not coloring

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<v Speaker 1>anything here. Excuse me. This is a term used chiefly

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, and it is a slang term.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, wokeness is defined as aware of, an actively attentive

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<v Speaker 1>to importance societal facts and issues, especially issues of racial

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<v Speaker 1>and social justice. So it's hard to suggest that being

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<v Speaker 1>woke is sinister. In other words, to be the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of this is to be frankly a racist person. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it's so difficult for these people to make

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<v Speaker 1>it sound bad, because they're like, well, yeah, of course

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<v Speaker 1>I want that too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only difficult to make it sound bad when they're

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<v Speaker 3>talking to someone who stands opposed to it. Exact they're

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<v Speaker 3>speaking in an echo chamber.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's going to even question it. The definition doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter about the question. Isn't of itself a bad word

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<v Speaker 1>in that space. So I'll read some of the examples

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<v Speaker 1>of the language being used, but we will only succeed

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<v Speaker 1>if we reject the growing pressure to retreat into cynicism

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<v Speaker 1>and hopelessness. We have a moral obligation to stay woke,

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<v Speaker 1>take a stand and be active, challenge injustices and racism

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<v Speaker 1>in our communities, and fighting hatred and discrimination wherever it rises.

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<v Speaker 1>That's from Barbara Lee. Here's another one argued that Brad

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<v Speaker 1>Pitt is not only woke, but the wokest man in

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood because he uses his status and his production company

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<v Speaker 1>Plan B to create space for artists of color with

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<v Speaker 1>such films as Twelve Years of Slave Selma in the

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming film Moodlight. This comes from Jiselle de Fares. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's another one. Being woke to gender discrimination is difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>It ruins things you love. Entire canons of art are

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<v Speaker 1>rotten to the core with it. It's from Rachel Edelstein,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's where we're going to stop with

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<v Speaker 1>this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Being woke is something that also is not new. It's

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<v Speaker 1>something that has been around since at least the civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights movement, the idea being exactly what it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of you know how you hear the

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<v Speaker 1>word sheeple all the time. I'll make up this word

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But there's a bunch of sleeple everywhere, right,

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<v Speaker 1>people who accept the status quo, people who just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way the world is, or people that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the people that we get the most often.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, change is slow. You can't have everything overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you protesting? Why are you, you know, demanding

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<v Speaker 1>to be heard and insisting that we respect your rights

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment? Right, those would be categorized in this

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<v Speaker 1>thought experiment as the sleeper right, And it's the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are woke that recognize that it's not only possible,

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<v Speaker 1>it helps everybody, and there's an idea of how to

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<v Speaker 1>get there expeditiously, you know, with some intentionality, people who

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<v Speaker 1>have done research, people who have the insight that most

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<v Speaker 1>folks don't have, that would fall under the category of

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<v Speaker 1>being woke. That coupled with some conviction in their hearts

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<v Speaker 1>and a moral compass that points them in the positive direction,

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<v Speaker 1>would certainly qualified folks as being woke. Right. This supplies

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<v Speaker 1>to black people, supply, to white people, supply to anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who checks these boxes. And it's not until, in my belief,

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<v Speaker 1>we see folks like aoc and ilhar Oman get elected

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<v Speaker 1>to public office and get a lot of attention, or

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<v Speaker 1>really challenging the status quo and being champions of wolkness

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<v Speaker 1>in those more visible spaces that the term starts to

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<v Speaker 1>get co opted by the right and associated with people

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<v Speaker 1>that they hate. The concept. The idea of it is

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<v Speaker 1>hater proof, but if you can align it with someone

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't like, then people can buy into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you start to see the idea behind it shift.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they either veil it in poor context or they

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<v Speaker 3>speak directly to people who feel how they feel. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>so they kind of turned into a two edged sword.

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<v Speaker 3>I can veil it in poor context, and I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>good enough speaker. I'm a good enough salesperson that I

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<v Speaker 3>can convince people that bad that it's bad, the word

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<v Speaker 3>bad in and of itself, and then every argument meant

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<v Speaker 3>that I make where I use it, I deliver it

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<v Speaker 3>in that way intentionally, and I get the sponsors I

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<v Speaker 3>want from people who wouldn't even take the time to

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<v Speaker 3>use Google. And or I'm speaking to people who feel

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<v Speaker 3>exactly how I feel and they celebrate me for it.

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<v Speaker 3>So they've done a very brilliant job of co opting it.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've talked about this on a recent episode, someone

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<v Speaker 3>who we once believed in ally assist in that co opting.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a gentleman with a very popular TV show

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<v Speaker 3>on HBr. Won't say his name because I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to use my platform to uplift his But my co

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<v Speaker 3>host and brother knows who I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I know who you're talking about, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you don't want to say his name

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<v Speaker 1>makes me not want to say it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not going to say his name, just using

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<v Speaker 3>him as an example of another person who I don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe it is ignorant to what woke actually means. But

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<v Speaker 3>he has started to show some true colors in light

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<v Speaker 3>of I think himself, like many supporters of the right,

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<v Speaker 3>not defending the right, not defending the right wing politician,

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<v Speaker 3>not defending you know, our former president, but defending themselves, right,

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<v Speaker 3>they start to look around and realize, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>the things that are being attacked are kind of some

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of some of the things that I think.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not bad, So then our former president couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be that bad, and maybe all of these people aren't

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<v Speaker 3>that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what really bugs me because you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>What bugs me though, is that people think of things

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<v Speaker 1>often enough to your point, as good or bad, right

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<v Speaker 1>or wrong, as opposed to a spectrum and being fluid right.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, once upon a time, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>six years old, five years old, I did some things

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't know we're wrong. This was back when

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<v Speaker 1>the Ninja Turtles first came out, okay, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>these Ninja Turtle coloring books that they had. Turtles was

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<v Speaker 1>cracking listening and there were so many Ninja Turtle coloring books,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just thinking like, well, if there's this

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<v Speaker 1>many Ninja Turtle coloring books, then they have to have

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<v Speaker 1>some for me. Just makes perfect sense. Why would they

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<v Speaker 1>have this many? So I took a Ninja Turtle coloring book.

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<v Speaker 1>Just made sense. And it wasn't until I got a

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<v Speaker 1>little older that I realized, ye know, that was stealing.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask for that, that was Jack moves on

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<v Speaker 1>yang them. And the wild thing about it is that

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment I wouldn't have known better. But looking

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<v Speaker 1>back on it, I could see like, yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong thing to do. And I don't look at

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<v Speaker 1>myself as a bad person. You know, now older ramses

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<v Speaker 1>a person who's a grown man that has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fleshed out the fullness of the world and the experience

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<v Speaker 1>of experiences that life holds. I got a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more to work with. But rarely do I look at

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<v Speaker 1>things as bad or good, right or wrong. Instead, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned, there's kind of a morality what feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the highest good in this moment based on everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I know? Am I open to receiving alternative perspectives?

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<v Speaker 1>Is my goal as a human being to put goodness

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<v Speaker 1>into the world, whereas my goal to get as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I can for my own benefit or the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, the people that are immediately around me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? How far do I want

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness to radiate? These are These are really foundational

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that I have to discuss in my own internal

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<v Speaker 1>monologue and arrive at conclusions in terms of who it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that I want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And some things it makes perfect sense. Look, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to I gotta do my thing first. And some things

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, listen, I don't really stand a benefit from

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<v Speaker 1>this thing as much as other people do. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I can help, then I will help often. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the story full well, in fact behind you

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio here we have some of our some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that celebrators, some of the publications have

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<v Speaker 1>celebrated us for all the charity work we've done. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't like talking about it because who talks about maturity

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<v Speaker 1>work we've done. But at the same time, we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have to because we had a lot of volunteers.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the name of the game. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think either one of us had the intention of going

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<v Speaker 1>out there to feed homeless people so we can be

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<v Speaker 1>celebrated and be you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite ironically though very loudly accused of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, I didn't want us to start a five

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<v Speaker 3>or one seed three. I did not want us to

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<v Speaker 3>start an organization. I wanted this to just be us

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<v Speaker 3>doing something right, and for us to do that with

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<v Speaker 3>the amount of reach that we eventually did, we needed

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<v Speaker 3>to take those steps.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to remove us from it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because very early on that was like accusation one, these

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<v Speaker 3>dudes are doing this so that they can look good, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because we used social media to promote what we were doing,

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<v Speaker 3>which more than quadrupled and quintupled or ten times the

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<v Speaker 3>amount of people that came out and were able to

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<v Speaker 3>give back and have an impact. There were people who

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<v Speaker 3>would jump on Facebook and Twitter or whatever the popular

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<v Speaker 3>social media platform was at the time and accuse us

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<v Speaker 3>of doing exactly that these dudes are just doing that

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<v Speaker 3>so that they can look good. And I used to

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<v Speaker 3>always make the argument, so, what like, even if we are,

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<v Speaker 3>it's still the same outcome, maybe a better outcome because

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<v Speaker 3>we're quote unquote making ourselves look good.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just no, I know that I know the frustration.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I went through with you, of course, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that is kind of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you know, folks need to really understand about

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<v Speaker 1>themselves before deciding what ultimately good and bad and right

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<v Speaker 1>and wrong means to them, because there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who deserve equal treatment. And if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to come to terms with the question that I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's Jane Elliott. Elliott is the one that asked us,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a non black person, if you would feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>being treated the way black people are treated in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>please stand up. She asked a question twice. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you heard me. If you non black

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<v Speaker 1>people would wake up tomorrow and be happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>treated by the criminal justice system, by the education system,

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<v Speaker 1>by the you know, on and on and on banking system,

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare system, you would be happy to be treated the

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<v Speaker 1>way black people are treated in this country. Please stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I ask you, our listener, if this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how you feel, or if you know people in

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<v Speaker 1>your world where you can ask a question like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it shows that they know that there's a different reality

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<v Speaker 1>for us, all of us, and for you to decide,

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<v Speaker 1>often enough, from a place of privilege, a place of advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>what is good and bad or right and wrong, It

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<v Speaker 1>often is going to reflect your version of reality, and

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<v Speaker 1>very much keep yourself insulated from that. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>make that live for you a bit. Because now secondary definition,

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<v Speaker 1>very much a secondary definition, very much a secondary definition

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<v Speaker 1>of wokeness is effectively disapproving. You'll see that also under

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<v Speaker 1>the same definition. So I'll read the definition beyond disapproving

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<v Speaker 1>politically liberal, as in matters of racial and social justice,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the newish, newest version of the definition,

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<v Speaker 1>and not the primary definition, but very much a secondary

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make that very clear if I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done so yet, but it basically means argumentative, combative people

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<v Speaker 1>that cause you to feel uncomfortable by pointing out that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in matters of racial and social justice, that

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<v Speaker 1>you know your version of reality needs to change. And

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<v Speaker 1>often the pushback is that these people are unreasonable. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very easy claim to make when your children

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<v Speaker 1>aren't getting gunned down on video. It's a very easy

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<v Speaker 1>claim to make when healthcare outcomes are more beneficial for you,

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<v Speaker 1>a very easy claim to make when you're not losing wealth,

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<v Speaker 1>rather the opposite of true, you're gaining wealth, your people,

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<v Speaker 1>your you know, that list goes on. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the criminal, just as education, there's employment, there's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's historical, documented governmental efforts plural in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's it's very easy to say when you're

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<v Speaker 1>not combating environmental racism, where your communities aren't being polluted needlessly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very easy to say that these people are being

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<v Speaker 1>extreme and their wokeness is unreasonable. And so I say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with being woke. It's way better than

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<v Speaker 1>being asleep. You know, you don't want to be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the sleeper I'm running with that word. There, go

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<v Speaker 1>for it. And here's a great example of what people

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<v Speaker 1>will pick apart, you know what I mean. So, James

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<v Speaker 1>Bond's books are kind of being rewritten to reflect modern sensitivities,

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<v Speaker 1>and people on the right hate this. They say, James

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<v Speaker 1>Bond is not supposed to be politically correct. He's James Bond, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the books are being rewritten to account for the

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<v Speaker 1>world we live in. Well, once upon a time, black

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<v Speaker 1>people used to be called negroes until it fell out

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<v Speaker 1>of fashion due to cultural pressures and influences. And now

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<v Speaker 1>it is looked unfavorably upon calling black people negroes. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we decided that we would be called black or African American,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where we are now. So to call

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<v Speaker 1>someone a negro, especially like in the government documents or

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<v Speaker 1>on the news or anything like that in a public

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<v Speaker 1>space is frowned upon. And it's because of this same

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<v Speaker 1>type of momentum from people who would be considered woke.

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<v Speaker 1>Things change, such as the way of all things