1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Crime stores with Nancy Grace, Viagra for Ditty, cocaine, ecstasy, 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: horse Trunk plan, beat. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: Birth control, baby oil, astroblide, and condoms, Percocet, week loss pills, 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: berm count pills. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 3: It was just I mean, he carried a pharmacy. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: With him straight out to the courthouse. Standing by legal 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: correspondent Lauren Colin, investigative reporter and start a pup Crime TV. Lauren, 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. What happened in court today? 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: We saw Kid Cutty testify and it was fairly quick. 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: It took a portion of the morning and during opening statements, 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: the prosecutors gave us a little bit of a taste 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: about this break in that involved Ditty, an assistant, and 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: one of his associates. Well, when Kid Cutty aka Scott 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Mescadi took the stand, it turns out that Diddy was 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: the one that broke into his house kidnapped one of 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: his employees, Capricorn Clark with an associate went over there 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: looking for Cassie. And this was after Shawn Colmes found 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: out about this relationship that was going on between Kitcutty 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: and Cassie. And look, Kid Cuttie said he was a 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: little confused. Cassie had told him that she and Sean 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: Colmes were broken up. 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: You know, they were on again, off again. 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: So when he got this call from Cassie where she 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: was very, very upset and alarmed. This was in twenty eleven, 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: he went to pick her up. He took her to 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: a hotel and it turns out she gave Seawan Colmes 27 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: kid Cutty's address. This came out that was a little confusing. 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: So kid Cutty finds out that Seawan Colmes is at 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: his house because Capricorn Clark, the assistant, calls him and 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Cassie from the driveway in the car very scared and says, look, 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: Colmes is in the house now. 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: Kid Cutty gets very upset. He says he's going over there. 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: So he drives over. 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: There and he says that he calls Sean Colmes and 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 2: he says, hey, mother, effer, why are you in my house? 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: And Ditty says something like I just want to talk now. 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: When he gets to the house, Ditty's no longer there. 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: He notices that, you know, nothing is broken, nothing is 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: out of place. But he did have some Christmas presents 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: for his family in chanel boxes. Those were unwrapped on 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: the kitchen table, and his dog was. 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 4: Locked in a bathroom. He also noted. 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 2: That the surveillance cameras outside his house appeared to be 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: pointed down. 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: Now after this, you know, he leaves. 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: He sees that he's getting text messages from Colms, and 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: he thinks to himself, Okay, I don't really know if 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: I want to get involved here because who knows if 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: he has weapons whatever. So he actually calls the police 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: and files a police report. Now we've discussed this. It's 51 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: December of twenty eleven, Kid Cutty and Cassie go to 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: Cassie's family home in Connecticut for the holidays. Sean Colmes 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: still is texting Kid Cutty, you know, trying to talk 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: to him, trying to get a meeting with him, and 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: Cuddy ignores him, and then Cassie ends up breaking up 56 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 2: with him. On his trip, he returns back to la 57 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: and a month later, it's January twenty twelve. He is 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: about forty five minutes away from his house. Kid Cutty 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: and his dog. Babysitter calls him and says, your car 60 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: is on fire in the driveway. A Molotov cocktail has 61 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: somehow been thrown in the car. We then see pictures 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: of the car. The roof is broken in or sunken 63 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: in with a hole in it, the inside is all charred. 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: He calls the police files the police report, and then 65 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: a few days later he says, Okay, you know that's it. 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: I'm contacting colms or We're going to work this out. 67 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: So they have a meeting at the La Soho house. 68 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: He describes d Rock, the security guard that we've heard 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: about multiple times, ushering him into this room, and this 70 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: got a lot of laughed Nancy. He described Colmbs as 71 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: facing this big window in the room with his back 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: towards him, his hands behind his back, and he actually 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: said he looked like a marble super villain. So he 74 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: said also that Ditty's demeanor was so calm that it 75 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: was almost bizarre. He offered him water twice, you know, 76 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: and they seemed to work it out. 77 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: And then at the end of. 78 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: The conversation and Cassie joined later by the way, and 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: at the end of the conversation, Cutty says, they shook 80 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: hands and while their hands were clasped, he said, well, 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: what about my car, and Diddy basically was like, I 82 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: don't know anything about your car and they let their 83 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: hands go and then you know, they kind of walked 84 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: out and that was that. And he said he hadn't 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: seen him until a few years later. He saw him 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: again at the Soho house, and this time Diddy was 87 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: with his two daughters, and he apologized to Kit Cutty. 88 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: And said, look, I'm sorry for everything that's. 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: That happened, anything that went on between us, but Nancy. 90 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: When Brian Steele got up to do the cross examination, 91 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: he pointed out a couple of things, as that's his job, 92 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: but he pointed out that during the break in kid 93 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: Cutty's door, there was no damage to it. The door 94 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: was wide open and anybody have walked in. He also 95 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: pointed out that there were DNA or fingerprints pulled from 96 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: the investigation into the car blow up, and those that 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: DNA was actually it belonged to a female. 98 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 5: Okay, let me understand something. 99 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: So one month later, after the whole Cassie Ventura relationship 100 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: blows up, one month later, Kid Cutty's car is bombed 101 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: with a molotov So isn't it true that Sean Combs 102 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: had discussed blowing up his car? 103 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: Yes, Cassie, this is through Cassie She said that this 104 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: was discussed and he was going to do it when 105 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: one of kid. 106 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: Cutty's friends were present. 107 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: And you know, I believe someone else did see that 108 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: in the driveway. I have to go back to my notes, 109 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: but I believe after the fact it wasn't just the 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: dogs it or someone else saw it. But I'll go 111 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: back and check. But it definitely she the dog sitter. 112 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 2: She took pictures right away. 113 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: Okay, So how did kid Cutty discover that Shawn Comes 114 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: was sitting in his place? 115 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: Capricorn Clark be I guess she was an assistant of Ditty's, 116 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: but she also was friends with Cassie and then became 117 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: friends with kid Cutty. She called from the driveway in 118 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: the car. She stayed in the car while Ditty and 119 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: an associate went in, and kid Cutty had her on 120 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: speakerphone so Cassie could hear as well, and he described 121 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: her as being scared and upset. 122 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So Ditty's assistant calls Kit Cutty and says, Combs 123 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: is in your place? 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 5: All right? 125 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: And the cross examination on that was there were no fingerprints. 126 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: Well, the cross examination was that look, nothing was was destroyed, 127 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: nothing was broken. Your door was wide open, so there 128 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: was no forced entry. And you know the cross examination 129 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: by Brian Steele, I couldn't actually believe what he caught 130 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: kid Cuddy to say. He actually got him to say 131 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: that both he and Sean Colmes were quote played by Cassie. 132 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: I mean it was. 133 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: I guess it's the victim's fault again. 134 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So now we have two guys that were dating Cassie, 135 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: to put it euphemistically. 136 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 5: And now we got played by her. 137 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Forget the split lip and the plastic surgery on the 138 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: eye and the beatings they got played. 139 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 5: It's just so predictable. It's her fault. I forgot that. 140 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 5: Garret Goes needs to remind me of that again. So 141 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 5: the bat. 142 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: You know what, Lauren Comlin, When I left for the 143 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: studio early early this morning, I left my back door 144 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: open so the dog could go in and out. But 145 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: I certainly don't expect Seawn comes to come, PLoP himself 146 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: down and start opening presents and basically call and threaten 147 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: me saying. 148 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: I'm in your house. I'm in your housewoman, So I 149 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: don't care if the door was open, which of course 150 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 5: it was not. 151 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: None of that means any thing when it comes to 152 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: a burglary. 153 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 5: I want to get back to the fact. 154 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: Wow, what is Shawn comes clairvoyant? Because he brags I'm 155 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna blow up Cutty's car. 156 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna blow it up. 157 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: And then one month later bam, so Sean Combs is 158 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: what clairvoyant? 159 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: Listen, I know the job of defense attorneys, and I 160 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: have to say, we all, just as Layman's out there, 161 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: we knew what was going on. Most of us, we 162 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: pay attention to pop culture. We kind of knew about this. 163 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: But I felt like what Brian Steele was able to 164 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: get out of Kit Cutty in terms of, you know, 165 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: not having the exact proof that. 166 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: Diddy did this. 167 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 2: You know, we had everything else, We had everything within 168 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: the circumstance that he did this. 169 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: And Brian Steele again, you know, he did his job. 170 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: He got Kit Cutty to say that he was in 171 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: love with Cassie, and he got him to say that 172 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 2: he did feel on quote unquote played, which yes, was 173 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: victim blaming absolutely, But the fact that he got him 174 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: to say that, I felt like it elicited a few 175 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: little mini gasps in the court room. 176 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, so I'm confused here. I hear what you're saying, 177 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: but I don't see the primitive value of getting kid 178 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: Cuddy to say he loved Cassie. 179 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 5: Okay, I don't think that was very hard to do. 180 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: He obviously loved Cassie, so I don't see that as 181 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: a win win situation. In fact, that's why Combs wanted 182 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: to blow up his car because he loved Cassie. Kid 183 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: Cutty loved Cassie, and Cassie had feelings to Kid Cutty. 184 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: I think that helps the state. So what's the big score? 185 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not getting it. And I know Steele. 186 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: He's a great lawyer. I know him and his wife. 187 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: So explain to me what's the big win? 188 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 5: Lauren Conlin, Well, I. 189 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: Would say, if I had to pick a defense win there, 190 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: it would be one for him to agree multiple times 191 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: that he felt like Cassie kind of pulled the wool 192 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 2: over his eyes because she wasn't totally honest with him 193 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: about her relationship with Colms. That would be one. 194 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: Do you think maybe it's because she didn't want another 195 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: no real nice way to say this ass whipping? 196 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: Did you think maybe that's why? 197 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, of course, listen, I am not arguing that. 198 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: I am just I'm just trying to pick out what 199 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: I feel like could be considered a defense when here. 200 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: So that was one okay, yeah, yeah, And then the 201 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: other one was him saying, well, you know there was 202 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: DNA pulled, you know, from the scene of your car 203 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: the molotov cocktailed. 204 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 4: Did the police ever tell you that this came from 205 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: a female? 206 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: And kid Cutty said no, they never shared that with me, 207 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: So it was kind of silent for a minute. And 208 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: also Brian Steele, I mean, he got up there and 209 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: he was complimenting Scott Meskutty, Kid Cutty. He he was 210 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: kind of making him smile and embarrassing him a little bit. 211 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: And at one point there was a sign far and yeah. 212 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: When they came back from the sidebar, kid Cutty even goes, oh, 213 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: mister Steele, I just want. 214 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: To clarify something for you, and. 215 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 2: The judge is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you 216 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: can't talk. And it was this whole moment because you know, 217 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: they all seem. 218 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: To have it, you know what Steele has that ability. 219 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: I always called it my Andy of Maybury Cross Exam, 220 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: where I want something out of the witness, but I 221 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: don't want to tear them to shreds. Okay, so I 222 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: think that's what Steele was using right there, and he's 223 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: very effective at that. 224 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 5: But I got another question. 225 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: So Shawn Combs's fingerprints and DNA were not on the 226 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: car that was blown up with a molotov one month after? 227 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 5: Did he threatened to blow it up? Okay? Sorry, not impressed. 228 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 5: I mean, do you really. 229 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: Think Shawn comes did he was going to run down 230 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: to the sip go or the Valero, would pump his 231 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: own gas into a container and make his own molotov. 232 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't even clean up his own disgusting 233 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: hotel rooms that were covered with a baby oil slick. 234 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 5: He made somebody else do it. So of course his 235 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 5: DNA isn't there. 236 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: Well, and we and we heard that from George Kaplan 237 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: actually yesterday during his testimony, that he had to clean up. 238 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: Bab oil off the table, off the floor or whatever. 239 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: But I have a feeling, Nancy, that we are going 240 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: to hear possibly from the person who had to do 241 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: this for him, because I mean, at this point, I 242 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: guess it's like you have all the circumstances pointing to 243 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: Diddy being responsible for this, we just don't have a 244 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: paper trail and who knows that that's going to matter 245 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: in the end. Again, we're on the second week here, 246 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: so we've got a lot to get through. But I'm 247 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: very curious if we're going to see, you know, these 248 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: these bread prumbs leading to someone in his enterprise who 249 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: is responsible for this by his. 250 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 5: Directive Lauren Colin. 251 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: Also, when you don't know a horse, look at his 252 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: track record. If you don't know what happened in this case, 253 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: look what happened leading up to it. Sean comes makes 254 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: his cleanup crew clean up is disgusting, free cough and 255 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: pay the damages for the hotel. He makes his underlings 256 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: body guard chase dam on Cassie Ventura and physically dreh. 257 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 5: There you go. You need some deep cleaning now. 258 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: Man made his bodyguard go chase down Cassie and drag 259 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: her physically back to him. 260 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 5: He made his assistant go and try. 261 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: To make him get a false police report when Shawn 262 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Colmes attacked his own female chef. I mean, it's always 263 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: making some other person do your dirty work. And Shawn 264 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: Colmbs never gets his own hands dirty. I guarantee you 265 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: he's not the one that threw that molotov. He had 266 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: somebody else do it, and that somebody else could very 267 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: well come into the courtroom and take the fifth and 268 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: tell all, do you think that's gonna happen? 269 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: Lauren Collin, Well, I don't know if you were aware, 270 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: but George Kaplan actually was set to take the fifth, 271 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: or so we thought. The last couple of days we 272 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 2: had heard this disgust in the courtroom, and then he 273 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: got immunity, and I believe this was for him testifying 274 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: about buying drugs for Shawn Colmes. And then we knew 275 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: that David Jayce also got a profit and got immunity. 276 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: So I am not surprised here. I feel like there 277 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: definitely will be more. However, however, I do want to 278 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: point this out, and I know you're not gonna like this, Nancy, 279 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: but both of the assistants, David James and George Kaplan, 280 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: they showed Didy respect. 281 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: They gave him a head nod. I mean George Kaplan 282 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: this morning before he got. 283 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: Off the stand, he actually talked about how, you know, 284 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: did he instilled certain worth work ethics in him that 285 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: he still uses today. I was a little confused about you. 286 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 5: You think I care who nodded? 287 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: And did he they're probably afraid their car is gonna 288 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: get bombed as soon as they drive away from the courthouse. 289 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 5: That means nothing to me. 290 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: All that matters to me is a true verdict and 291 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: has the state proven the offenses and the indicamond. There 292 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: can be all the head nodding you want, Lauren Colin, 293 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: don't care. Did he raging over last week's Tootsie Roll reveal? 294 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 5: Is what? 295 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 6: It's a complete control freak and then a sick of 296 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 6: us way. I think he's secretly enjoy it. And we're 297 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 6: all talking about day. 298 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: People keep asking the wrong questions about Cassie Ventura and 299 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: Shawn COM's aka Ditty's other sex trafficking victims. Everybody says 300 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: why did she stay instead of why did he beat her? 301 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: Why did he continue to make her participate in free 302 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: coughs over her objections? But now we see a very 303 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: very successful musical artist thrown in the mix and corroborating 304 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: what we know to be true. According to the state. 305 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: It's Kid Cuddy. Who is Kid Cuddy. 306 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 7: Scott Muscootie aka Kid Cuddy is signed to Kanye West's 307 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 7: label Good Music. In late two thousand and eight, after 308 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 7: his song Day and Night gains popularity on MySpace. Cuddie's 309 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 7: debut album on the Moon The End of the Day 310 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 7: shoots the rapper to fame, going quadruple platinum with additional 311 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 7: singles Make Her Say in Pursuit of Happiness. 312 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: Ms. 313 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 7: Goody also dabbles in film and television, guest starring in 314 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 7: several projects performing music and others, and starring in a 315 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 7: few feature films Need for Speed and Bill and Ted 316 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 7: Face the music. 317 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: Straight out to renowned psycho Alice. Joining us out of 318 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: la is doctor Bethany Marshall. 319 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 5: She's the author of deal Breakers. 320 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: You can see her now on Peacock and she s 321 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany. I'm sure 322 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: I don't have to jog your memory with this, but 323 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: we've all seen the videos of room cleaners. 324 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: I'm gonna circle. 325 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:44,479 Speaker 1: Back to the disgusting day after free cough. 326 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 5: That did he paid to have cleaned up. My point 327 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: is he always has somebody else do his dirty work. 328 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: So I just heard Lauren Colin still there standing body 329 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: at the courthouse, say who Brian Steele, who's a very 330 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: good lawyer. I think really got a lot out of 331 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: kid cutting on cross that there was no fingerprint left 332 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: behind by Shawn Combs or Shawn Combs DNA. Really, it's 333 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: just like Shawn Comb's gonna go fill up at Valero 334 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: and try it over there and make a molotov and 335 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: a coke bottle and throw it himself. Yeah, that's not 336 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: gonna happen. He has his minions do everything, and I've 337 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: got example after example after example. So if he could 338 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: make a grown man throw a molotov, right, make a 339 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: grown man go buy drugs for him, make a grown 340 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: man clean up his baby oil and seamen, you don't 341 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: think he can make Cassie Ventura perform sex acts with 342 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: a male sex worker on video. 343 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 8: Really, of course, Nancy and all that trashed furniture, broken furniture, baby. 344 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 5: Oils, slick as you called it, all over the place. 345 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 8: He did that to people too, Okay, he trashed them 346 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 8: as well. The executive assistant got on the stand and 347 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 8: when the attorney quashed examined and said, well, why didn't 348 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 8: you just get the hotel staff to clean up the room, 349 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 8: he said, because he was trying to protect Ditty's image. 350 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 8: He knew that Ditty was menacing, threatening, intimidating, and that 351 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 8: if he did not protect his boss, he would be 352 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 8: in trouble too. That's why all of these guys are 353 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 8: nodding at p Ditty on the stand. 354 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 5: They are terrified of him. 355 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 8: So of course, of course, Passy Ventura is going to 356 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 8: have sex with somebody at Sean Ditty's direction. 357 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: She is why. 358 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: He just says something that actually turned my stomach. 359 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: And it's this. 360 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: I put so many rape victims, sex trafficking victims, I 361 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: thought victims on the stand, and when they come into 362 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: the courtroom, most of them don't even want to look 363 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: at the perpetrator. 364 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 5: They don't even want to look at them again. 365 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: And the few that summoned up the courage to look 366 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: at the man that raped them, that sodomized them, they 367 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: look almost meek and mile. I've seen them kind of acknowledged, 368 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: not necessarily nod, but acknowledge the rapist. They meet eyes, 369 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: and they really don't know how to act. So I 370 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: am not impressed at all by anyone that comes to 371 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: the courtroom and nods at DIDDI that means nothing to me. 372 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace to Tom Smith joining me 373 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: formern NYPD detective thirty years Narcotics robbery gang, and that's 374 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: what I'm interested in right now, Tom Smith, and he 375 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: is the star of the Gooldshieldshow dot com. 376 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: Tom, thank you for being with us. 377 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: Right before I left the DA's office to go to 378 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: court TV, a case I was working. I was going 379 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: to be a death penalty case where two little in 380 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: fi babies still in their layettes, right newborns. 381 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 5: So I recall they were baby girls. 382 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: Were with their mom in a two story apartment, and 383 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: it was a gang war, and the women in one 384 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: gang had gotten into an argument with the women in 385 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: the other gang whatever over some clothes. 386 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 5: So the game members show up. They make a molotov. 387 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: And as they throw it into the upstairs window where 388 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: the two infants newborns are laying, they say, quote, let's 389 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: fry them babies. 390 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 5: Fry them as in hot oil, fry them. 391 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: And they set the place on fire, and the babies 392 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: were burned alive. 393 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 5: They did not die of smoke inhalation. 394 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: Their short time on this earth ended when they were 395 00:20:53,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: burned alive. I had created a specialty of arson investigations. 396 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 5: And can I tell you there's nothing worse, nothing worse 397 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 5: then what happens to a burn victim. 398 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean the deadly use of fire and a very 399 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: uncontrollable device such as a molotoph He needs to go 400 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: under the jail if he ordered this thing. Explain what 401 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: is a molotov and why is it so unpredictable? 402 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 9: Well, molotov cocktail is a bottle that's made with gasoline 403 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 9: in it, with a rag on it, that's lit on 404 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 9: fire and thrown. And the destructive part of it, like 405 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 9: you described, Nancy, is once it shatters, those flames go everywhere. 406 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 9: It just it is a broad area that is covered 407 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 9: by this Molotov cocktail that can ignite anything in its path. 408 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 9: And that's why they're so dangerous. And it doesn't surprise 409 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 9: me with this that Sean would have had a part 410 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 9: in this, because that's what criminal enterprise bosses do. They 411 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 9: order their little minions to do what they want and 412 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 9: they do them. And why it because of intimidation, because 413 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 9: of a power need. That's what's going on here and 414 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 9: that's what this old Rico case is about. Sean Comb's 415 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 9: running this organization and putting acts like this into motion 416 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 9: to intimidate anyone involved with another group or his group, 417 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 9: to make sure they stay in mind. 418 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 5: Well, you read my mind. 419 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 1: That's my next point of legal discussion, and that is 420 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: how kid Cuddy, who, according to Lauren Collin, I have 421 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: no reason to doubt her, was very affable and likable, 422 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: very even killed on the stand. That's good because that 423 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: makes the jury believe. 424 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 5: Him and like him. 425 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: If someone is irritating or just you know, agonizing to 426 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: listen to, the jury tunes out. 427 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 5: But Cuddy was a great witness for the state. 428 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: But Troy Slayton joining me, renowned criminal defense attorney, very wily, 429 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: joining me out of la at Slayton Lawyers, Troy Slayton. 430 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Don't you just love it when your client, your defendant, 431 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: your criminal defendant, is also clairvoyant, Because you remember, of course, 432 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: Scott Peterson said this, this is gonna be my first 433 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: Christmas without my wife. 434 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 10: She died. 435 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 5: I'm a widower at BAM. 436 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: Two weeks later she was dead and he was a widower. 437 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: And then let's see Oj Simpson Orenthal, James Simpson. That's 438 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: a great example. He had a dream where he. 439 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 5: Murdered Nicole Brown, a clairvoyant dream. 440 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: And here it is again. Sean com says, thirty days 441 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: before I'm a blow up Cutty's car, his Porsche it's gone, 442 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: and believe it or not, just a few short days later, 443 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: kid Cutty's. 444 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 5: Car blows up by molotov. 445 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 6: Hmm, well, Nancy, prosecutors didn't charge him with using a 446 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 6: Molotov cocktail, using a destructive device, and the statute of 447 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 6: limitations on that would have run out in like twenty fifteen. 448 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 6: Because this allegedly happened in twenty ten, twenty eleven, all 449 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 6: the statutes of limitation would have run. 450 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: Out twenty five indictment prosecutors state quote Comb's quote relied 451 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: on employees, resources, influence of a multifaceted business empire he 452 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: controlled and attempted to engage and among so many others, 453 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, Our. 454 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 5: Sun put him up. 455 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 6: So those are those are. 456 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 5: It is part of the indictment. So Jurassic erase. 457 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: You want to start over, you want a little do over, 458 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: because he is charged with that. 459 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 6: They're alleging that. And what executors way way over charge 460 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 6: this case. And that's why his lawyers are confident that 461 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 6: the government is going to lose in this case. Because 462 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 6: for racketeering rico, which normally is charged against mob bosses, 463 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 6: big minal mobster organizations. They have to prove that all 464 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 6: of these things were part of advancing the Diddy organization. 465 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 6: So to make TV shows, he had to have arson. 466 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 6: In order to produce records, he had to blow up 467 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 6: a car or have freak offs. I think what the 468 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 6: problem here is, Oh my gosh, news. 469 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 5: Alert reducing records. Charged with trug. He's not charged with that. 470 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: This guy is following. Actually he is charged. 471 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking right at it, but I do respect something 472 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: you just did. 473 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 5: When you got busted. 474 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: You immediately came up with a brand new argument that 475 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: takes a lot of skill. 476 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 5: Slate. 477 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: He's obsess the tootsy roll, the size of a tipsy roll. 478 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: Et bdddy et bddity, the tootsy roll Sewan comes is 479 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 5: tutsi roll. 480 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: We are alive at the courthouse, bringing you the latest 481 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: in the United States versus Sean in a multi count 482 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: federal indictment. Joining me an all star panel to Sidney 483 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Sumner very quickly, Sydney Crime Stories, investigative reporter. We are 484 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: hearing the state laying a foundation. This is why Kid 485 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: Cutty's testimony is so important. He's not just a pretty face, 486 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: He's not just a talented musical artist. But he is 487 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: laying a keystone, a keystone for the state sex trafficking 488 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: and reco criminal Enterprise case. Now, we heard Cuddy on 489 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: the stand talking about the molotov right blowing up his car. 490 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: There were other assistants that did Seawan Comb's bidding. But 491 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: what can you tell me about Shawn Combs continuing to 492 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: call kid Cuddy long after he and Ventiro had broken up? 493 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: Straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder direct of 494 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: Land's Warriors, a nonprofit dedicated to ending sex attacks and 495 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: sex trafficking. Lynn, can you really visualize Sean Comb's doing 496 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 1: his own dirty work? You think he was over at 497 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: the quick stop getting the gas and making them molotov 498 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: and throwing it atbl n Are you surprised? I mean, 499 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: does of high powered pimp do all the beatings of 500 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: the women? 501 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 5: Does he he go buy the drugs to keep them high? No, 502 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: he has millions to do that. 503 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 11: Well, Nancy, I'm here in New York City and for 504 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 11: years they've been known as Dirty Diddy Disciples. I am 505 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 11: not kidding When I use Dirty Diddy, that's what on 506 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 11: the street. That's what women would report back to me 507 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 11: men as well, you know, and I also want to 508 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 11: point out I think, I hope we hear about it 509 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 11: over the course of this whole trial. There were lots 510 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 11: of women involved that helped him as well. These guys 511 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 11: never get their hands dirty. They're in control. I am 512 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 11: hoping our focus at the Warriors is, Oh, he's victims survivors. 513 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 11: I hope, Nancy, I'm so afraid. I want these sex 514 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 11: trafficking charges to stick. I hope they're laying out for 515 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 11: this reco case, for this engaging in prostitution across state. 516 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 11: I hope because we have so many victims right now 517 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 11: looking at this reporting back to me what's going on. 518 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: They can't watch something earlier Linshaw about all of the 519 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: minions that did Shawn Comes bidding. And when we first 520 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: started investigating this case and covering it, I and many 521 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: of you on the panel predicted that there would be 522 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: codefendants turned witnesses, and that is exactly what we're seeing 523 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: right now. People that do Shawn Comes is bidding. Why 524 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: is it important? Because that is what a criminal enterprise is. Again, 525 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: think about Tony Soprano. You saw the Sopranos right on HBOS. 526 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 5: Streaming right now. 527 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: Still Soprano ran the organization, but there are all sorts 528 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: of people working in for him and around him in 529 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: his criminal enterprise. One would sell stolen items TVs VCRs. 530 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Another would be charge of pimping running a strip bar. 531 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: Another would launder money. They all were part of the 532 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: criminal enterprise. Now we see former assistant George Kaplan on 533 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: the stand. Now talk about an unindicted co conspirator. 534 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 5: That would be him. Listen. 535 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 10: Assistant George Kaplan says he was sent to pick up 536 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 10: drugs for his famous boss. Kaplin says Sean Combs gave 537 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 10: him cash and a phone number to. 538 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Call crime stories with Nancy Grace, So Shawn Combs could 539 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: talk a grown man into going and buying his drugs 540 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: for him. 541 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 5: No wonder this went down in the courtroom. Listen. 542 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 12: Diddy's former assistant, George Kaplan takes the stand. Kaplan tells 543 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 12: the judge he is only here because of a subpoena 544 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 12: and he plans to invoc his Fifth Amendment right. Judge 545 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 12: super money and grants Kaplin immunity. The deal does not 546 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 12: cover perjury. 547 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: So in order to get his testimony, Kaplan is given immunity. 548 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 5: What does that mean? 549 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: It means he cannot be prosecuted for anything he testifies 550 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: to on the stand, including going and buying ecstasy MDMA, 551 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: and god only knows what else. So he talks a 552 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: grown man into buying drugs. Let's see a little snippet 553 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: of all the drugs seized that Shawn comes mansion. Now 554 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: we know that Frank Black was a name, a pseudonym 555 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: used to check Sean comes in and out of hotel rooms. 556 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: Also used to get fake prescriptions, which is illegal. You 557 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: think that Shawn comes rolled up in his suv to 558 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: the CVS or the Dwayne Read or the Walgreens and 559 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: god his own stuff. 560 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 5: No, uh huh, there had to ammanion. Listen. 561 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 10: Former assistant George Kaplan testifies that on Comb's or chief 562 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 10: of staff Christina Korum's instructions, he traveled ahead of Combs 563 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 10: to set up his lodging, often asked to book under 564 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 10: the name Frank Black. 565 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 5: Caplan says the. 566 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 10: First time he was asked to set up Comb's accommodations, 567 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 10: he was given a prepared bag to unpack. It contained clothes, 568 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 10: a speaker, candles, liquor, baby oil, and astroglide. On subsequent roomstocks, 569 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 10: Caplan says he often purchased baby oil and astroglide on 570 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 10: his company credit card. 571 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 5: Okay, legal objection ew okay. 572 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: Troy Slayton Shawn Holmes convinced Caplan to perform crimes for 573 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: him buying drugs, get illegal drugs such as MDMA, also 574 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: convinced him to get prescription drugs under a fake name, 575 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: where Slaton also a crime. So now he is talking 576 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: his and to buying his astro glide, lubricant, his baby oil, 577 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: his candles, his liquor, all of that and importantly critically 578 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: using the company credit card choice latent well. 579 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 6: Buy an astro glide, although it may sound gross in 580 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 6: this situation, not illegal. Buying drugs, yes, illegal, but that 581 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 6: doesn't make a rico case. The government still has to 582 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 6: prove the purchasing the drugs was to advance the criminal enterprise, 583 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 6: was to advance his business interest. His legitimate business interested. 584 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 5: Too, all those drugs himself. 585 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: No, that was being dropped in the woman's drinks. I mean, 586 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: you need to go back to law school, man and 587 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: take a refresher course on rico. Rico is anything any 588 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: act that advances a crime, and the crimes have to 589 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: be laid out in the end diament, which they are. 590 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: I've already read them to you. I'll read them again. 591 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: We're asking for labor, kidnapping, a stressing. 592 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 6: Those are all terrible things, but that doesn't make rico. 593 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 6: You have to prove what he is saying. 594 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: Diddy was using all those drugs for he'd be dead 595 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: if he took them all. 596 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 5: He was fading them to these women and their drinks. 597 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: What do you think the astrogline the baby oles for 598 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: for a sreat call according to these women against their 599 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: will and bringing in male sex workers from another state 600 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: that is against the law. 601 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 6: Recoparent, that would be that that's sex trafficking. So we're 602 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 6: mixing up two different things there, Nancy, you know that 603 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 6: those are separate. 604 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Also the environment, Yes, but you're the one who said 605 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: had nothing. 606 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 5: To do with it. It has everything to do with it, 607 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 5: just like the baby oil. 608 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 6: Just because somebody is having a rock star is having 609 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 6: a drug fueled party, doesn't mean that they're guilty of rico. 610 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 5: Of racketeering. 611 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 6: That's what's used for for mobsters that are trying to 612 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 6: use trying to sell drugs and use those things to 613 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 6: make money. 614 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 10: Cassie said Combs wanted her glistening at all times and 615 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 10: had her reapply heated baby oil as often as every 616 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 10: five minutes, and during one performance, even made her get 617 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 10: into a. 618 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 5: Kiddie pool of baby oil. 619 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 10: Afterwards, staff members were charged with cleaning up but with 620 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 10: baby oil and bodily fluids all over the floors, walls, 621 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 10: and door handles. Combs was frequently charged for damages to 622 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 10: hotel rooms, negotiations handled by Combe's assistants. 623 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 5: Again, legal objection ew all. 624 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: Right to doctor Bethany Marshall, let's see that video of 625 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: the literally Dixie dumpster going down the. 626 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 5: Hallway of the hotel. 627 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna need a lot of chlorox to clean 628 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: this room, doctor Bethany, how do you convince grown men 629 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: and women to do your illegal bidding and clean up 630 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: your bodily fluids, your sperm, your baby oil, your astroglide, 631 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: and they do. 632 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 11: It your dildo, all of it, Nancy. 633 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 8: Probably what he did is he started out being super 634 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 8: charming with them, pretending to be their friend, buying them gifts, 635 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 8: pretending to advance their interests in some way, and once 636 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 8: he gained their trust, he would send them out on 637 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 8: some criminal act. Once they committed the criminal act, now 638 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 8: they were stuck and could not get away. 639 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 5: Isn't it true, Cydney Summer. 640 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: That sworn testimony is that Shawn Colmes tried to bribe 641 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: a security guy. 642 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 3: That's correct, Nancy. He tried to hand this security guard 643 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: a stack of money as big as his hand to 644 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: leave them alone and to just drop the whole situation 645 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: and not get Cassie Ventura out of that Intercontinental Hotel room. 646 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: So Tom Smith, a former NYPD star of Goalshields podcast 647 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: Tom Smith, I guess it's just a diddy world and 648 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: we all live in in it because all these people 649 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: are so afraid or have their careers at stake, they 650 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: go along with it. It will be a cold day 651 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: in HTL that I would go to clean up somebody 652 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: else's bodily fluids unless my children threw it. 653 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen. But all these people just went 654 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 5: along to get along. 655 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 9: And it's influence and it's his power that controlled them. 656 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 9: What can he do for them in the future, How 657 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 9: can he propel their jobs, their careers anything like that. 658 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 9: That all is involved in this power trip that he 659 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 9: was on. And like you know, Nancy, once you get 660 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 9: away with it a little bit, you keep pushing the 661 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 9: envelope to the next level, to the next level, and 662 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 9: that's where you get into this crime boss that he 663 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 9: is of controlling people with intimidation, with acts of violence 664 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 9: and so forth. And it's just all part of Sean 665 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 9: diddy Combe's persona and his personality of being this boss. 666 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: That's right, It's Diddy's world and we're all just living 667 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: in it. Not right now, Shawn Combs in a federal 668 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: courthouse being charged and being tried for a multi count 669 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: federal indictment. 670 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 5: And what Rico means, which is the. 671 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: Main major prize for the state, is that Shawn comes 672 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: headed up a criminal enterprise involving many, many crimes including arson, 673 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: blowing up kid Cuddy's car. That is why Cuddy is 674 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: so important to this case. And Sidney Sumner. 675 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 5: In a nutshell. 676 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if we're going to see hitch person. Christina Korum, 677 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: she is accused. She denies it all of recruiting women 678 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 1: for free coughs, standing witness to a gang rape, trying 679 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: to place an IUD and a victim. 680 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 5: What I'm saying is she denies it all. But just 681 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 5: like these other assistants. 682 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: So many people were doing his bidding because they were 683 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 1: afraid well, and. 684 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 3: We've heard from other employees, anonymous sources who have not 685 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 3: been on the stand, that many of them believed Christina 686 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 3: Korum was in love with Sean Combs and did a 687 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: lot of the things she did because of that. Other 688 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 3: employees say, I've seen a Quorum threw them under the bus, 689 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 3: made things that may have not been their fault look 690 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 3: like their fault, so that she looked like the most 691 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: capable person on his staff that he could always trust 692 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 3: and always come to. George Caplan even testified that he 693 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 3: told Christino Quorum about the physical abuse he saw between 694 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 3: Combs and Kathy as his reason for putting, and Quorum 695 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 3: was sad and disappointed that that was something that he witnessed, 696 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 3: But she understood why he left and that was the 697 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 3: end of it. There was no conversation about, well, what 698 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 3: did you see? Should we talk to the police, should 699 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: we do No. Her loyalty was to Combs, and she 700 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 3: hoped that George Caplan would have discretion about what he saw. 701 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 5: You hear that, Troy Slayton, it's the death nail. It's 702 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 5: the death nail. 703 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: Kid Cutty's testimony and the testimony of all these other assistants. 704 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 5: The Nail and the coffin the death knel. For Diddy, it. 705 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 6: Might be Nancy, but the government is still going to 706 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 6: have to weave together all these disparate dots and tie 707 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 6: it together to show that this was an overarching grand 708 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 6: conspiracy to further a criminal enterprise. And I think we're 709 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 6: going to hear a lot from Diddy's attorneys when it 710 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 6: comes time for his defense to put on their presentation. 711 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, Slaton. I don't know why they've got 712 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: out their slaves, but you're absolutely right. In the state 713 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: better be ready. We remember an American hero, Deputy share 714 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: of Hunter Ready, just twenty seven, shot and killed in 715 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: the line of duty, leaving behind beautiful young wife Bettina 716 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: and their children Brantley, Caden, and Katie. American hero Deputy 717 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: Shareff Hunter Ready Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend 718 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 3: By