Speaker 1: Look, man, oh I see you. Why look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yeah? Goodness ding dong cultures calling? Wow,
Speaker 1: you are fresh from the fight, as we say, I
Speaker 1: want to be just honest, transparent and just show up
Speaker 1: in my truth and say that I did not sleep
Speaker 1: last night from I saw Adele in Vegas and my
Speaker 1: flight was at eight thirty five in the morning, and
Speaker 1: so it was the energy was so high and kinetic,
Speaker 1: and it bowen that I said, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: bed and I didn't. Was it the right choice? How
Speaker 1: could you? We'll find out you won't regret this. Maybe
Speaker 1: you regret it now, but in forty eight hours you
Speaker 1: will not will not regret Well, let me just say
Speaker 1: one thing to you, this one and it's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: breaking those fag sees Adele says it was best show ever.
Speaker 1: It really was. It sucks that you have to sort
Speaker 1: of qualify it like that, because it really is meaningful
Speaker 1: that fag saw Adele. And yet we're at a point
Speaker 1: in the culture now where fag saw Adele is losing
Speaker 1: its meaning and so for my best friend to say,
Speaker 1: and it makes me sad that you have to sort
Speaker 1: of like get ahead of it, like that it was
Speaker 1: such a given that it was going to be what
Speaker 1: it was for me. But when I tell you, I
Speaker 1: joined up with thousands of people in the openly sobbing community,
Speaker 1: and everyone in the openly sobbing Lately community got together
Speaker 1: last night to openly sob for two hours while this
Speaker 1: woman sang, and it was truly it was like at
Speaker 1: a certain point you have to laugh because you're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Like, isn't it going to be funny when
Speaker 1: she sings take it All? Isn't that going to be funny?
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen to us? She's saying take it all.
Speaker 1: Not only does she sing take it all, she extra
Speaker 1: take it all. She she put us through take it
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't. I can't think about take
Speaker 1: it all, or I'll cry. Do you think I can
Speaker 1: think about take it all? What about you think I
Speaker 1: can think about take it all? And then I am sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Good too? And I want to say,
Speaker 1: because podcasts are not a visual medium, I would describe
Speaker 1: the way I look right now like fact, like I
Speaker 1: got punched in the head repeatedly by music. Punch in
Speaker 1: the head repeatedly by music. Fact. Saw adell is a
Speaker 1: hate crime in Nevada. And that's a real culture. That's
Speaker 1: real culture. Number twenty in Nevada take it all. First
Speaker 1: of all, I'm just kind of stuck on this one number.
Speaker 1: This was so fucking good, and I just cried and
Speaker 1: cried and cried because, you know what, whatever, it's common
Speaker 1: knowledge amongst people that listen to this podcast. I genuinely
Speaker 1: feel like maybe that was a cathartic final thing for
Speaker 1: me and break up era. Yeah, but like wow, I mean,
Speaker 1: just unbelievable the amount of emotion. She knows she's putting
Speaker 1: you through too. She says at the top, she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: so sorry, y'all are about to get fucked up, and
Speaker 1: she just says it. Everyone looks at each other like
Speaker 1: m and the openly sobbing community was thriving last night.
Speaker 1: It was so unbelievable, Bowen, it was so unbelievable. I
Speaker 1: haven't been part of OSC for a long time. I
Speaker 1: have not openly sobbed. I've sobbed in the past a week,
Speaker 1: but not openly. I've sobbed in front of my therapist
Speaker 1: on Zoom. We sobbed on the phone, We stobbed on
Speaker 1: the phone. I sobbed on patient portal sessions, is what
Speaker 1: I sobbed. Oh wow, oh no, oh god. Thursday, it
Speaker 1: was a bad day. We don't have to get into it,
Speaker 1: don't I know it? But didn't Channy Nicholas say, and
Speaker 1: you and I checked in about this. Channy Nicholas said,
Speaker 1: say that it is a sharp, jagged cliff of a week.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to dive into the ocean when
Speaker 1: you know there are sharp rocks in the water, So
Speaker 1: tread lightly, literally just carefully walk through the week because
Speaker 1: there are going to be hazards, and indeed there were,
Speaker 1: and you and I might have even touched a sharp
Speaker 1: point on our own paths. Do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think you and I needed to have Thursday because
Speaker 1: Thursday was I'm gonna say, Thursday of last week. If
Speaker 1: you're listening to this on Wednesday was one of the
Speaker 1: worst days ever. I'm ever sorry, Channing Nicholas said, confirmed
Speaker 1: that that was astrologically written in the stars aida one
Speaker 1: of the worst weeks anyone could ever have. And when
Speaker 1: I said that to my sister and they're checked them
Speaker 1: with people about it, they were like, it's we are
Speaker 1: all feeling it. Yeah, and every literally everyone literally went
Speaker 1: through it. Talking to Ago last night, our guest, he
Speaker 1: better have had a terrible week. I'm sure that our
Speaker 1: guests had a fucking awful week. Let's check in with
Speaker 1: him about this in a second. I'm so excited our
Speaker 1: guest is here. Our guest is one of those people.
Speaker 1: I think he was always someone that like you and
Speaker 1: I looked up to still do. I mean every time
Speaker 1: he posts something, and I hate that I'm like verbalizing
Speaker 1: posts in a way that like just the word post
Speaker 1: on a linguistic level does not match like the act
Speaker 1: of posting post. I think that you're right, post is
Speaker 1: reserved for the mail. Ultimately, though, I'm very happy about
Speaker 1: post because when our guest does post, dame to post,
Speaker 1: I would say effortless star, I would say incredibly gifted, funny,
Speaker 1: hilarious young man. And I would also say, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not an apology to the readers, but it is
Speaker 1: a recognition that there is a community. So there's the
Speaker 1: openly sobbing community, and then there's a large community of
Speaker 1: people in our fan community, the readers who are actively
Speaker 1: angry and upset that this has taken this long. I
Speaker 1: agree with them, I see you, I hear you, and
Speaker 1: we've rectified it. This is an incredible moment. Bowen our
Speaker 1: guests recently was in the film Megan and I have
Speaker 1: something to say about the way that the fates had
Speaker 1: it with his character, and Megan and I want to
Speaker 1: run something by him. But yeah, first of all, that
Speaker 1: was the film of the year, film of the year.
Speaker 1: You know him from Well Grace, you know him from
Speaker 1: Oh my God, The Gay in Winter's Life of Caleb Gallo, huge,
Speaker 1: huge formative culture for a generation. It's true, among many
Speaker 1: other things, Among many other things. Of course, there's Timothy,
Speaker 1: there's TJ. Mack husband, there's the wife, there's Marnie t
Speaker 1: There's just this universe of characters who you must intimately
Speaker 1: get to know if you haven't already. We're very lucky women.
Speaker 1: We're very lucky women this week, and let's check in
Speaker 1: with him and see if he had a terrible week.
Speaker 1: Why don't we Okay, so everyone, please welcome into your
Speaker 1: ears right doing an hour Hi, Hi, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That was the best. That was the best introduction. That
Speaker 1: was the most flattering introduction I've ever heard, deserved, deserved.
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. You guys are the best. Wow, how
Speaker 1: is your last week? You know, I think it was bad,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying When you guys were saying that, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, they're so right. And then
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember if it was Oh no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I fell completely ill. I had a horrible stomach flu.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I recovered, and then I just went and
Speaker 1: like took some time in nature yesterday and the early
Speaker 1: party today, and then I just came back to I
Speaker 1: just get back to the city. And I was so mad, Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm in New York right now for work and I
Speaker 1: was so mad to come back in the mint had
Speaker 1: I had to drop up my brother in law let
Speaker 1: me his car. I just had to drop his car
Speaker 1: off in like NoHo, and I accidentally went I was
Speaker 1: trying to make a turn in Soho. I was in
Speaker 1: Soho and I was trying to make a turn and
Speaker 1: I was almost there, and I accidentally went into the
Speaker 1: Holland Tunnel and I to go over all the way
Speaker 1: to Jersey City, Jersey all the way back. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: what a nightmare. No, it has been a wild week.
Speaker 1: It really is. In the stars. It was beyond us.
Speaker 1: And how did you guys experience it, but you ended
Speaker 1: you ended it in this incredible way at the adult concert.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, like I really I can't.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's so stupid to be like, guys,
Speaker 1: see Adele, you know what I mean? I know, well,
Speaker 1: she needs somebody kind of like backing her up, like
Speaker 1: go to this show. You know, yeah, she needs me
Speaker 1: out here pushing it like this is an ad for
Speaker 1: weekends with Adele. No, it was just that thing of
Speaker 1: like it was a place where people came to literally
Speaker 1: just at one point, I just turned around and I
Speaker 1: was you can see my face right now, I am swollen.
Speaker 1: I turned around, I made babe, I turned on. I
Speaker 1: made eye contact with a woman who maybe was in
Speaker 1: her fifties, and she just looked at me. We looked me,
Speaker 1: made eye contact for about three solid seconds. She nodded
Speaker 1: like she was just like yeah, me too, Like turning
Speaker 1: tables is also doing it to me right now, so
Speaker 1: she's like absolutely, and I think I reached out and
Speaker 1: grabbed her hand and then like it was, I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel closer with the friends that I went with.
Speaker 1: I want my friends re clip and Gus like we were.
Speaker 1: I have to thank the universe. I mean, if there's
Speaker 1: anyone to see live, there's anyone to see a lion
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean it's it's gotta be basically the
Speaker 1: best voice in the world right now, right it's there
Speaker 1: another and bo when you were right there when she did,
Speaker 1: because she came to U s and l and hosted
Speaker 1: and sang and was messing around and fucking around, and
Speaker 1: boone got to stand right there. Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 1: She was just riffing. She was just riffing. It was fun.
Speaker 1: How is how is nature? What did you do? Did
Speaker 1: you on little walks hikes? I did a little bit.
Speaker 1: I more just like sat in the I went to Woodstock,
Speaker 1: New York. Have you ever been there? We've heard of
Speaker 1: that one. I think I typed like upstate New York
Speaker 1: into Airbnb. This this is like my longest Is that
Speaker 1: even up state? Yeah? Exactly? Yeah, yeah, okay, that is upstate?
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure? Is anything north of the city upset?
Speaker 1: Like when do you start? I think once you're on Taconic,
Speaker 1: once you're on the Taconic State Parkway, you're officially upstate, baby,
Speaker 1: And I will not do that again. You were there alone?
Speaker 1: I was there alone. Yeah, I stayed like in sort
Speaker 1: of a cabin by myself, and I was slightly worried
Speaker 1: that I was gonna be murdered. But yeah, it's too scary.
Speaker 1: It's too scary. I know. I was like, Oh, I
Speaker 1: should have just stayed in a hotel. Why did I
Speaker 1: She was like a house with glass doors on all
Speaker 1: the you know, that's fine. I slept the light on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's incredibly dark too. It gets slightly dark. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, you said this is your longest time
Speaker 1: in the city. So yeah, I have an interesting history
Speaker 1: with New York because I was born here and I
Speaker 1: lived here until I was four. Because my dad used
Speaker 1: to run the Roosevelt Island Tramway. Do you guys know
Speaker 1: that tramway? Yes, a cable car that goes Yes, of
Speaker 1: course he used to run it. He was the king
Speaker 1: of that. He he was the king. Yeah, that is
Speaker 1: a country and he was the king. Yeah. Um, he
Speaker 1: like managed that for many years. But then we moved
Speaker 1: to like rural Tennessee. And basically I've been sort of
Speaker 1: an la actor in my adulthood, so I haven't done
Speaker 1: the New York thing. But now I'm here writing. Um,
Speaker 1: so it's it's cool to sort of be in the
Speaker 1: city and have a job in the city and feel
Speaker 1: like a real city girl. But but then you, like
Speaker 1: everyone in the city, feel like you have to get
Speaker 1: out of the city. So you have to get out
Speaker 1: of the city. You know, it's so much city in
Speaker 1: every direction. It's like everything everywhere, all ones. And then
Speaker 1: you really do become that person who googles Upstate New York,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because but the thing about
Speaker 1: upstate New York and the thing about that, and I'm
Speaker 1: guessing it did work for you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You went out and got into nature, did except I
Speaker 1: was mad at having to come back. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: actually worked shockingly well it thought. I was there last night.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is corny. How much better I
Speaker 1: feel instantly, and how I am kind of ready to
Speaker 1: go back to the city. You know, almost it was
Speaker 1: your I went to Adele and actually cried, get this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was I went upstate
Speaker 1: and it worked nature, Actually it was healing. Exactly where
Speaker 1: did you see Adela at Caesar's? How many nights did
Speaker 1: you spend in Vegas? Two? Because you can't do more
Speaker 1: than that. I find Vegas incredible. I feel so corny
Speaker 1: for loving as much as the title of app I
Speaker 1: find Vegas incredible. Well, it's not great about but I agree,
Speaker 1: it's so fun. It's just like God, I guess it is.
Speaker 1: It sort of build as an adult playground, and everything
Speaker 1: is so insane. I mean, especially Caesar's House, Like it's
Speaker 1: so big. You're like, how big is this? You're just
Speaker 1: walking in it for like miles. You're like, that's still
Speaker 1: Caesar's Palace and that building is Caesar's Palace and they
Speaker 1: have the start from David I think in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. I feel like we grew up on Ocean's eleven,
Speaker 1: and we grew up on rat Race, and we grew
Speaker 1: up on like important Vegas films. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: rat Race is an excellent piece of art. I never
Speaker 1: got that into rat Race, and I was I watched
Speaker 1: I watched Oceans eleven. I think a few times. Rat
Speaker 1: Race is supposed to be incredible though, right, No, it's not,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's actually I have not watched it since
Speaker 1: two thousand or or something. Rat Race is one of
Speaker 1: those movies where it's like you see the trailer for it.
Speaker 1: I remember being a kid and seeing the trailer for
Speaker 1: rat Race and it was like, you know, would be
Speaker 1: Goldberg and like so many people like I literally I
Speaker 1: could not name any more people in the cast, but
Speaker 1: I remember being kids seeing that lot of sample cast
Speaker 1: and being like, I know that that is one of
Speaker 1: the greatest films ever made. And I know. And then
Speaker 1: I remember like the movie came out and it got
Speaker 1: like a shady review and like my local paper, I
Speaker 1: was like, that's gotta be wrong. Unbelievable cut two years
Speaker 1: and years been tracking this project, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna be great. I know for a fact that
Speaker 1: because of my of my cursory viewing of the trailer
Speaker 1: as a child, that's one of the greatest films. And
Speaker 1: I feel personally attacked to read and then my local paper,
Speaker 1: news Day Long Island's own Newsday that there was a
Speaker 1: two star rating. Absolutely not wait, Matt say you never
Speaker 1: saw it either, No, there's an amazing Kathy Bates. It was,
Speaker 1: oh my god, no, but Bowen, this is this is
Speaker 1: a thing. People love that movie. I think my friend
Speaker 1: Stephanie loves that movie. Think my boyfriend loves that movie.
Speaker 1: I think it's like it has a real cult following. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a cult following exactly. It's not quite cult. It's more
Speaker 1: like an MLM following something. It's definitely trying to make
Speaker 1: you do something else. Yeah, it's trying to get you
Speaker 1: to watch some recruit. Your boyfriend loves it, so then
Speaker 1: why haven't you seen it? Maybe I know, well maybe
Speaker 1: that maybe that him. So yeah, that is going to
Speaker 1: be the strong you need to go to weekends. I'm
Speaker 1: writing this, I'm writing this down. He's writing down. See
Speaker 1: race race race, respect my lover, see rat race respect? Man?
Speaker 1: Are you missing La? Do you hate New York? Overla? Finally,
Speaker 1: I know I was so New York. I was so
Speaker 1: engine New York for I've been here two months already
Speaker 1: and I've been very vocally in favor of it. I've
Speaker 1: been like, oh my god, odd walkable city because like
Speaker 1: my my friend um Stephanie has this say this is
Speaker 1: maybe slightly morbid, but they it just because it's about
Speaker 1: It's like, there's a study about Alzheimer's that says one
Speaker 1: of the things that the two things ilp you avoid
Speaker 1: it the most are talking to people and walking walking
Speaker 1: and New York City. It just creates these scenarios all
Speaker 1: the time you're walking talking. So there is this sort
Speaker 1: of health, this healthy thing here in the way of life.
Speaker 1: But then what what started to wear on me was
Speaker 1: just the real concrete jungle. But I think I also
Speaker 1: just don't know the and it's winter. I don't know
Speaker 1: which parks to go to. You know, I've heard there's
Speaker 1: something called Central Park. No kidding, I really I haven't
Speaker 1: gone to Central Park much. It's so cold out. You
Speaker 1: own you don't need to go to Central Park? And
Speaker 1: can I say, like, what do you do when you do?
Speaker 1: It's quite lovely. I never regret it, right, right? What
Speaker 1: are you about to say, Matt? Do you know this
Speaker 1: about me? Though? Like I lived in New York City
Speaker 1: for eleven years, I've been to Central Park less than
Speaker 1: five times. I lived in the city for eleven years,
Speaker 1: and I can count literally on one hand the amount
Speaker 1: of times I've even been there. It's really weird, and
Speaker 1: I would say that I can say pretty confidently that
Speaker 1: I have had a full New York experience without having
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time there. Yeah. Interesting, Well you're
Speaker 1: about to hit spring. Yeah, it's also it's more a
Speaker 1: summer thing anyway, too, right, But there's others these other
Speaker 1: cooler parks that people I see people at in the summer, right,
Speaker 1: I think you're thinking that one where they play a
Speaker 1: movie up on a big building or something. Bryant is
Speaker 1: that Brian Park. But yeah, they do that at Bryant.
Speaker 1: And then there's Prospect Park in for Green mccaren is
Speaker 1: kind of fun, even though it's flat and there's not
Speaker 1: much going on besides like running in soccer. I mean,
Speaker 1: parks parks to New York are quite special, and I
Speaker 1: take that for granted because I feel like it's not
Speaker 1: quite as prevalent in other parts of the world. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe like San Francisco. The one thing
Speaker 1: San Francisco has going for it now, I think is
Speaker 1: like that Mission Viejo thing, right, that what it's called
Speaker 1: where you like lay and then you see and the
Speaker 1: gays are running around San Francisco. Gays are obsessed with
Speaker 1: that part. They really they They love to let you
Speaker 1: know they're at that park. Yeah, they're like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: at this iconic park, Like, come visit San Francisco. It's
Speaker 1: like me with Adel, like they're being paid to advertise
Speaker 1: for it. But wait, this is what I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you about Megan before I forget Okay, so Megan
Speaker 1: incredible when we also I saw Megan with friends and
Speaker 1: my friend afterwards he was like, it's it's definitely a
Speaker 1: cult it's a cult hit, and I was like, it's
Speaker 1: not a hit, it's a huge movie. It made money, Yeah,
Speaker 1: made money, Okay, And we can say this like, being
Speaker 1: gay and enjoying a movie does not make something called
Speaker 1: and that's actually number thirty. Being gay and enjoying a
Speaker 1: movie does not make something called yeah you were gay
Speaker 1: and like something. So speaking of being gay, and in
Speaker 1: the movie, you get the script, you're like, you're doing it,
Speaker 1: and then you realize you're not going to die in
Speaker 1: the movie. And here's my thing. It's like I thought,
Speaker 1: if I was you in the movie, I would want
Speaker 1: to get killed by Megan. And I kind of was like, Brian,
Speaker 1: it feels like this character is getting absolutely fucked up
Speaker 1: by Megan. Thrilled that you survived because then you can
Speaker 1: be Megan two. Megan's yeah, whatever's going to happen with
Speaker 1: Megan going forward and thrilled for that, but what percentage
Speaker 1: of you is like disappointed that you didn't get to
Speaker 1: get fucked up by Megan. Well, no, I do get
Speaker 1: fucked up by her. She's well, I don't know you
Speaker 1: really spoilers, but she she there's definitely some violence that
Speaker 1: she inflicts upon me. But I'm glad she didn't kill
Speaker 1: me because I do want to. I want to live
Speaker 1: on to battle her further or to sort of engage
Speaker 1: with her. She's working actually such powerful, she's such a
Speaker 1: woman in business these days. You know, did you see
Speaker 1: she's in the new Mark Jacobs campaign. I saw that. No,
Speaker 1: I'm wrestling with how to feel about it. Oh, and
Speaker 1: she has a Mark Jacobs campaign. I wish I could
Speaker 1: show you. Oh that's genius. Yeah. What's Drew Barrymore's obsession
Speaker 1: with Megan? What's that about? Why is Drew like dressing
Speaker 1: up as her? I don't know the clip of Alison
Speaker 1: Williams on Drew Barrymore. Well, can we just talk about
Speaker 1: the Drew Barrymore of it? All is I was on
Speaker 1: the show once and she was sitting behind a table,
Speaker 1: so she couldn't she didn't have the opportunity to do this.
Speaker 1: That woman will get up out of her chair, crawl
Speaker 1: over to her guest, get right up in their face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's wild. She is. She is everywhere, she is on
Speaker 1: the ground like she is, and that when she dressed
Speaker 1: up as Megan and got really really really close knit
Speaker 1: to Alison, I was like, at what point are you
Speaker 1: just like why does it start and end? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And she had I think her contact was like sliding off.
Speaker 1: I was fucked, yes, yes, yeah, wait, what's Allison like?
Speaker 1: We're being so stupid? Tell us she's the best man.
Speaker 1: I love No, I love Alison. The thing about Allison
Speaker 1: is she's so smart and so that part that I
Speaker 1: think that's why she works so well on that part,
Speaker 1: because she's like she is like an Ivy League, like
Speaker 1: a plus plus. She's the real deal. Gene's a robotics queen.
Speaker 1: She's a robotics genius exactly well, Alison Williams is a
Speaker 1: robotics Genius's culture number forty four, Alison. What I love
Speaker 1: about here is like she is so self aware about
Speaker 1: the Alison Williams thing that literally even the character being
Speaker 1: named Megan when Alison's there's some scenes in the movie
Speaker 1: where intrinsically the energy is just like Megan stop stop now, yeah,
Speaker 1: Megan off. Yeah, It is so brilliant just called Megan
Speaker 1: it's a chick. It's a normal name on some Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: but Alison was really sweet, She really was. She was
Speaker 1: just so kind to me. And I think my favorite
Speaker 1: thing was that she found me funny and I found
Speaker 1: her really funny. And I was like, Alison Williams so funny.
Speaker 1: Don't we love that? That is the highest compliment? But no,
Speaker 1: how could she not? Oh? Thank you? Yeah, you really
Speaker 1: are a fucking icon. Boo, thank you so much. You
Speaker 1: guys are obviously stars of stage and screen. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, But it's an event anytime something goes up,
Speaker 1: it's an event in the group chat for us. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it really is. Where someone's like, oh, TJ. Mac wife
Speaker 1: is back. Does she have a name? His wife is back.
Speaker 1: She doesn't have a name. You guys can name her
Speaker 1: if she wants. No, No, no, absolutely not. I'm saying
Speaker 1: so many names in my head right now. Anything is
Speaker 1: her name? Rita? Rita? I said, And that's so funny
Speaker 1: that you said Rita because I was living in Roberta Land, Roberta. Wait, Brian,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say something, I said, Jessica, But I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: How can you you are the creator? Are you just
Speaker 1: going into like a flow state when you do that. Definitely, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I need to be doing it more because I'm here.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm very consumed by you know, we're writing
Speaker 1: this TV show right now for affects. That's very exciting
Speaker 1: and amazing, but it um you know, speaking of posting,
Speaker 1: as you guys were, I am like, I'm not posting enough.
Speaker 1: The pressure to post, but it's like I love posting,
Speaker 1: but for me it comes out of like really sitting
Speaker 1: in your apartment and scrolling for hours and like like
Speaker 1: you're eating like chicken off freighto and then you're just
Speaker 1: like take a video and like the laziest space. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, actually, to me, it's like the
Speaker 1: closest thing I can conceive up to inspired work because
Speaker 1: it's like it's something I'm doing because I want to
Speaker 1: write when I want to and then posting it right away,
Speaker 1: which is like I often think like, oh, if I
Speaker 1: would put more planning or energy into these videos, they
Speaker 1: would maybe do better, or I could get more of
Speaker 1: numbers or something, but I'm just like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like the only way I know how to do it.
Speaker 1: It's just off the cuff, you know, no, but that's
Speaker 1: perfect because of course it's the best inspired thing because
Speaker 1: it's you in your like day to day life and
Speaker 1: your slices of life or whatever that you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to post something. I know that sounds like sort
Speaker 1: of reductive, but that's how it feels to me. No, No,
Speaker 1: that that's what it is exactly. I demand to know
Speaker 1: the answer to the question, and that is sort of
Speaker 1: the centerpiece of Lost Cultures. This I demand. So, Brian
Speaker 1: Jordan Elvers, what was the culture they made? You say?
Speaker 1: Culture was for you? Because we're talking sort of about
Speaker 1: how you create and quite frankly post culture, and we
Speaker 1: want to no, what made her her? Well? This question?
Speaker 1: To me? What this question means to me? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: no that what I mean what comes to mind for
Speaker 1: me is Alma Dovar movies. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's a satisfying answer. Have you seen that's a great answer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you guys ever seen All About My Mother? The
Speaker 1: one that won the y It's so good to me
Speaker 1: that probably I watched it like maybe a hundred times.
Speaker 1: I've also watched Prometheus like two hundred times or something,
Speaker 1: which I think a lot of people hate pro me
Speaker 1: are you guys? I find that First of all, I
Speaker 1: find that movie very gay. It's like very I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, has this really perfect esthetic. And David
Speaker 1: the robot is very sort of yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe gay coded or something. Spender is gay coded and
Speaker 1: he's definitely serving one way or another for sure. And
Speaker 1: also any movie where Charlie's Theron sort of get it's
Speaker 1: like crushed by a big yeah, like a real Madonna
Speaker 1: energy in that movie. She's like really an all powerful,
Speaker 1: powerful being. Yeah, that movie is such gay culture. But
Speaker 1: that's so funny that you bring that up, because I
Speaker 1: remember thinking really cult, it's really cult. It's cult classic,
Speaker 1: like Megan, I will never forget. Like when that movie,
Speaker 1: the trailer for that came out, it was a very
Speaker 1: rat race because I was like, I know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see that and absolutely love that, And nothing about that
Speaker 1: genre of movie is my thing. Like I don't like
Speaker 1: to be scared. I do not like science fiction. I
Speaker 1: don't like to be grossed out. I don't like aliens.
Speaker 1: I would rather not even talk about whether or not
Speaker 1: they exist, like the UFOs of it all, Like I
Speaker 1: don't want to participate in that we are even like
Speaker 1: talking about whether or not no, and I'm actually upset
Speaker 1: right now. I don't even want to. But when I
Speaker 1: saw that movie and I saw Charlie's there on in
Speaker 1: that movie and what's her name? Um, I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, I have to participate in this culture. And
Speaker 1: I remember going with like people in college, I think,
Speaker 1: and going to the Union Square Regal and watching Prometheus.
Speaker 1: And it was a tough sit because it is it's scary,
Speaker 1: it's weird, it's fucked up. Yeah, but you had to
Speaker 1: go because ultimately Charlie Starren was there sort of like
Speaker 1: serving Madonna and getting crushed by a rock. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna not sit for that. I'm seated for that. And
Speaker 1: she has like shockingly perfect hair the whole movie and
Speaker 1: like sometimes that ponytail, like you can't you gotta get
Speaker 1: to the theater for the wait. Those are great answers
Speaker 1: that this is where we caught on your answer, like
Speaker 1: what was the culture that made me say culture for me? Yeah? Prometheus, man,
Speaker 1: you gave us all about my mother and we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: but let's skip. Let's incredible. Is all about my mother
Speaker 1: is incredible? Yeah? It's so from Penelope cruise and then
Speaker 1: she's like twenty three or something. She's like, yeah, she
Speaker 1: looks like an eight. You're like, is this an angel?
Speaker 1: Is this person real? You know? Yeah? And her acting
Speaker 1: is of all the acting in that movie, and just
Speaker 1: like the rich colors, and like there's there's something Almodovar
Speaker 1: does too where the acting is extremely fully good, like
Speaker 1: it's at the highest level, but it's also it's also
Speaker 1: sort of going melodrama, but you're buying it fully. It's
Speaker 1: an interesting line to ride because you're never like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is feeling fake or cheesy. Instead you're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like acting times ten, you know, which is
Speaker 1: so delicious to watch. Delicious delicious because even like the
Speaker 1: mother's son relationship in the beginning is so convincing that
Speaker 1: like yeah yeah, and like the way he dies is
Speaker 1: so sorry spoiler, like he gets hit by cars that's
Speaker 1: like ten minutes in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's a big sport. But it's like the way he
Speaker 1: dies is some al dramatic because he likes he's like
Speaker 1: chasing after an actress. He's he was gay, right, that son,
Speaker 1: he had to have been. He was like standing an
Speaker 1: actress that is a great question. Maybe he is. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's obsessed with the theater actress, with the theater actress.
Speaker 1: I've never picked up on that. Yeah, I've seen the
Speaker 1: movie so many times. You're so right. Well, those are
Speaker 1: the gayest movies of all time, like even talk to her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so did you watch Parallel Mothers? You watch Parallel Mothers?
Speaker 1: I mean Parallel mother I didn't. I didn't have it.
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. Both of you gay men need
Speaker 1: to get red. Wait, who is in parallel is it? Yeah? Wait?
Speaker 1: What's the one with Antonio Benderis? That was right before that?
Speaker 1: Ohhh oh that was the one where he plays like
Speaker 1: the fucked up doctor, right, yeah, yeah, um, oh no,
Speaker 1: you're thinking of the skin, Yes, the skin I live
Speaker 1: that there. No, there's one where he plays a director.
Speaker 1: Just now, that was right before. But the what's the
Speaker 1: one that you were talking about? It just came out, Oh,
Speaker 1: Parallel Mothers, Well, Parallel Mothers. This is just I mean,
Speaker 1: it's very clearly to me, like one of the best
Speaker 1: performances that she is were given, which is like saying
Speaker 1: something because she is so unbelievably good like and like
Speaker 1: she's she gets lost in the conversation. But I remember
Speaker 1: nominated when she got the Oscar nomination for pat Yes,
Speaker 1: she did, and I think she she very came very
Speaker 1: close to winning. Way there was like for Parallel Mothers,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have to see this movie. If you
Speaker 1: love I'm one of our, like, you must see this movie.
Speaker 1: It is really really good. And what I love about
Speaker 1: his movies too, is like, like you were saying, like
Speaker 1: the colors, the melodrama, the music, it is really for
Speaker 1: us like a way yeah, oh yeah, yeah exactly. Yeah
Speaker 1: it's deeply gay. It's like deeply gay. Oh yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but I love melodrama. It's like it's talking to like, um,
Speaker 1: soap opera in a way that's like exactly, but in
Speaker 1: an artistic way. I mean I I absolutely it's like
Speaker 1: if soap operas had the time, that film has to
Speaker 1: light and to riot because so much of the soap
Speaker 1: operatics it's the lightning that day, it's the lighting of
Speaker 1: the cameras. They have to do it day or don't
Speaker 1: they does in a day or something? Oh yeah, sop
Speaker 1: factors work. That is like so they really do? They
Speaker 1: really work? I mean a passions did you wait? Have
Speaker 1: we talked about passions on this podcast. You were a
Speaker 1: little passions gay. I was a passion. That was when
Speaker 1: we were kids, right, Yeah, that was when we were
Speaker 1: a kid. I had a friend who watched it. She
Speaker 1: was always telling me to watch it when I was interesting.
Speaker 1: There were witches, there were a little like dolls that
Speaker 1: came to life. It was a crazy, motherfucking child. Wow,
Speaker 1: you are the passion vernon inside of me. That's so sorry.
Speaker 1: The soaps have been stripped down. There's like one there's
Speaker 1: only one soap luff now. That's why we have housewives
Speaker 1: now is it's filled the space. It's like the new
Speaker 1: soap opera of our job, right, I mean that's literally
Speaker 1: what Andy Cohen says. Anyway, He's like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think that the reason why this is such a popular
Speaker 1: thing is because it actually fills a space in the
Speaker 1: culture that no longer exists with media soap operas being gone.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was little, my mom was like,
Speaker 1: my mom was like a lifelong die hard. All my children,
Speaker 1: Fan and Bone and I have talked about this like
Speaker 1: that being on always. I remember I even got so
Speaker 1: into it as a kid because the storytelling was so slow,
Speaker 1: Like I remember, they would start an episode on a Monday.
Speaker 1: The way that like the episode's restructure was like they'd
Speaker 1: have like a two person scene and then you'd return
Speaker 1: to it like four different times in an episode, and
Speaker 1: by Friday they were ending that conversation. It was like
Speaker 1: it was like you essentially were watching two people have
Speaker 1: a conversation for a week. So that literally, like people
Speaker 1: that were at home watching it could be doing everything
Speaker 1: else in the world, right, but really actively watching the show.
Speaker 1: And in fact, that I think is why, if I
Speaker 1: really boil it down, why I like The Housewives is
Speaker 1: because it's the same thing, because it's hard to miss
Speaker 1: anything too. Yeah, you can always sort of que back
Speaker 1: into what's going on. Yes, everything is five episodes longer
Speaker 1: than it needs to be. I mean it's like real
Speaker 1: househoves up Beverly Hills is like like I think I
Speaker 1: might bring something up to Garcelle, and then later she's like,
Speaker 1: I brought it up and then and now I'm going
Speaker 1: to take two episodes to think about how I feel
Speaker 1: about it. Wait, do you guys watch Selling Sunset? Did
Speaker 1: you get into that? Not the new season? Didn't the
Speaker 1: new one just come out? It was good? Did a
Speaker 1: brand new one just come out. No, I don't think yet.
Speaker 1: I mean one came out on maybe a few months ago.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, I have not seen the most recent one.
Speaker 1: It's so good. My thing was selling Sunset is I
Speaker 1: don't think there's been a new season yet without Christine,
Speaker 1: And now she's not on the show. Christine Quinn is
Speaker 1: not on the show anymore, and I'm kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: what will that Wait, did she quit? She's gone, she's gone,
Speaker 1: she's gone. Wait, but they and they haven't They've filmed
Speaker 1: a season without her, but they haven't aired it yet
Speaker 1: or something that I think, so wow. Okay, So what's
Speaker 1: the most recent season that we've all seen, the one
Speaker 1: where Chrishelle is dating one of Yeah, yeah, that is
Speaker 1: the most recents. Okay, then I'm fine, okay, okay, okay, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My thing with Selling Sunset, Brian, is that I'm convinced
Speaker 1: that all of those people get a list of words
Speaker 1: at the beginning of each season. You're like, you can
Speaker 1: only say these words words, like their sentences are so
Speaker 1: like simple. Everything they say is a second grader can understand,
Speaker 1: Like it's incredible. That's how The Hills was too. That's
Speaker 1: why it's so intoxicated. Yeah. Absolutely, And if they only
Speaker 1: have one hundred words, they can say for two of
Speaker 1: the words to be these two words, Escrow and Divina.
Speaker 1: It's the world I want to live going forward, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, that's the conversation. I don't
Speaker 1: want to have the UFO conversation. I want to have
Speaker 1: conversations about Escrow and Divina. And actually, someone that I
Speaker 1: know saw Divina out in life the other day and
Speaker 1: it was like someone told me they saw Gwyneth Paltrow.
Speaker 1: I was like, where, That's That's how I get about
Speaker 1: like these like housewives and reality stars. It's just like,
Speaker 1: you can't tell me the not the number one. And
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Chrishell, she is all of us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is all. Wow, she is all of us. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be the first to say it. I'm a gay
Speaker 1: man that Sawdell cried and I'm saying that is all
Speaker 1: of us. And you can go up states to feel good.
Speaker 1: She came from from a small town or something, right,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's rual culture. Number seventy. Chris came out
Speaker 1: of soap. This is such a profound and definitely accurate
Speaker 1: theory that that reality TV has is what has replaced soaps.
Speaker 1: And it's also just the the extremely beautiful women. It's
Speaker 1: just like like I'm selling the sunset. They look they
Speaker 1: look so incredible. I'm like, I can't believe it. And
Speaker 1: also I'm just always like, did they sell one house
Speaker 1: this whole season? No, that's the really crazy thing. Did
Speaker 1: they sell a house at all in the most recent sies.
Speaker 1: I don't think they've ever sold that. I don't trust.
Speaker 1: I think Chrischelle, Like people were talking about Chrischelle in
Speaker 1: the last couple of months because it did come out
Speaker 1: that she has only sold six houses the entire time
Speaker 1: she's been on the show or something like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: also not real, but those are major houses. It's not
Speaker 1: good it. Maybe yeah, but if he's commission is three
Speaker 1: hundred grand and she's selling one, everyone, yeah, she's okay.
Speaker 1: She's getting paid for the shows too. But I feel
Speaker 1: like there are there are other people at Oppenheim who like,
Speaker 1: do sell like six a quarter, like you know, ten
Speaker 1: of years. I'm making that up, maybe, but I'm now
Speaker 1: remembering two other words that they're allowed to say, which
Speaker 1: is maya. Our friend's studio always does an impression of Maya,
Speaker 1: and her impression of Maya is just Jas. The least
Speaker 1: thing Jas Maya moved back to miamis I'm so sad
Speaker 1: she like moved away. She's not going to be on
Speaker 1: the show. Why would you do that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. She's leaving a massive career. People are
Speaker 1: moving to Miami. Florida's growing. No that I understand that,
Speaker 1: I really understand the movie. I was in Miami recently.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is like a drug. I bet
Speaker 1: you go off in Miami. Huh. I mean no, I
Speaker 1: haven't been there that much, but I was just on
Speaker 1: South Beach and I was like, it's like because also
Speaker 1: I'm coming from La where they're like, let's go to
Speaker 1: the beach and then you like sit, You're like on
Speaker 1: the beach, it's like a mile deep and the wind
Speaker 1: is like blasting you and it's like sixty five and
Speaker 1: then they're like, let's get in the water and it's
Speaker 1: literally like thirty degree, like the Pacific is whole year round.
Speaker 1: And then you go to Miami and it's like small, cute,
Speaker 1: beautiful beaches, palm trees, warm water, and let's just say
Speaker 1: it here right now, water so clear you can see
Speaker 1: to the bottom. Everybody, everybody got him. And I know
Speaker 1: that we don't celebrate Will Smith, but he had a
Speaker 1: point when he said that party in the city where
Speaker 1: the heat is on all night, on the beach of
Speaker 1: the break of dawn? Like what that song is formative
Speaker 1: for me for sure. Remember when Will Smith's music was
Speaker 1: just huge. I remember that album was that Willennium? Is
Speaker 1: that what it's called a millennium? I think that was
Speaker 1: the only big one. There is there another one that
Speaker 1: I'm missing. That's the one that I like, go back. No,
Speaker 1: you're forgetting just the two of us, and you're also
Speaker 1: forgetting there was never a song that was more important
Speaker 1: to dance contests and dance routines that children would make
Speaker 1: than Wild Wild West by Will Smith. Whenever I get
Speaker 1: I'd get together with all my girls. I'm talking about Megan,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Carly, I'm talking about my sister Chelsea.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about these are the girls I would get
Speaker 1: together with and we would put on Wild Wild West,
Speaker 1: and there would be a choreo moment and you know,
Speaker 1: this move would be somehow in it, which I'm sort
Speaker 1: of doing the last So that would we're doing the
Speaker 1: last so yeah. And also there's the moment where they
Speaker 1: go like one, two, three and there's like a gunshot,
Speaker 1: Like certainly a lot of hip action there, like so
Speaker 1: much opportunity. Will Smith was huge for the dance contest.
Speaker 1: Cousin huge. Wait were you are just your relative constantly?
Speaker 1: You know what I've never shared Bowen. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever told you this, but I became actually very
Speaker 1: famous at a lake resort that my parents not even
Speaker 1: a lake resort. It was like it was called Woodblock Pines.
Speaker 1: It was dangerously close to upstate in New York. It
Speaker 1: was in Pennsylvania. It's sort of like for very like
Speaker 1: middle class people, like you went like really entertaining, fun
Speaker 1: activities for the kids. You'd go for a week and
Speaker 1: you'd go with other families and they had a dance
Speaker 1: contest like as one of the activities. And I sounds
Speaker 1: like the plot of Dirty Dancing. It's really similar to
Speaker 1: Dirty Dancing, especially because what ended up happening was I
Speaker 1: with my friends Christina and Meghan, we you were choreographed
Speaker 1: a dance to Larger than Life by the Backstreet Boys,
Speaker 1: and we became celebrities. So we called ourselves. I'm MCM, Matt,
Speaker 1: Christina Megan Wow, and name Meghan is really getting thrown
Speaker 1: around today. But it's powerful and there's an energy around it.
Speaker 1: But we were MCM and I was, of course the boy,
Speaker 1: so I was like in the middle. This is like,
Speaker 1: you know, my hair was like looking ridiculous, and like
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it had to look so gay too,
Speaker 1: It had to be so gay. But my parents and
Speaker 1: our family like friends were just so insupport because what
Speaker 1: they saw happened was a cultural reset at this lake place,
Speaker 1: and it was. It was a moment bone I've never
Speaker 1: told you that it changed to America. It changed America,
Speaker 1: and I can't believe I'm learning more things about you.
Speaker 1: I have a question for both of you. Well, I
Speaker 1: have a question for Matt, which is would you say
Speaker 1: that as like when of your first moments of notoriety,
Speaker 1: maybe not fame, but like where people like looked at you, Well,
Speaker 1: was that the first taste? That's when you're new. I
Speaker 1: have to have more of them. You want to know
Speaker 1: what it was? It was two thousand and two. It
Speaker 1: was the same summer that American Idol was coming out,
Speaker 1: and I think I had been like m. I think
Speaker 1: my dick had probably moved for a boy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I was like, I was getting
Speaker 1: the sense that something was different, and I was just like, hmm,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm maybe I'm a star. I think one possibility
Speaker 1: for my life is I could be a star. Actually,
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I'm interested in this possibility
Speaker 1: that I'm actually a star. The way that everyone's treating
Speaker 1: me to that makes you larger than life. That which,
Speaker 1: by the way, now when I hear it is a trigger,
Speaker 1: of course, But that was a moment for you, one
Speaker 1: of the first ta yes. And I would imagine that
Speaker 1: we all, as little gay boys have had that yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. The first time a crowd like falls for you.
Speaker 1: I think it was four. I sang kocomo like at
Speaker 1: a talent show, and everyone thought it was incredible, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I am going to be a Yeah,
Speaker 1: this attention is what I needed from this day. Wow,
Speaker 1: that is beautiful. Mine was like a Christian youth group
Speaker 1: camp with like all of literally the coolest Asian people
Speaker 1: in Denver, and we went up to the mountains and
Speaker 1: it was skit night. Skit night. For some reason, somewhat
Speaker 1: someone wrote into something into a skit that you know
Speaker 1: was a contem took place in the modern day in
Speaker 1: the President. I remember if it was my idea or
Speaker 1: someone else's idea, it was me. It was me. I
Speaker 1: walked out it was a restaurant, and then I walked
Speaker 1: out as a waiter as Austin Powers, and I did
Speaker 1: an Austin Powers impression, and I just I said, like, yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: I think I even said I didn't say horny, but
Speaker 1: I said like, do I make you Randy? Baby? And
Speaker 1: that was like it destroyed, it destroyed, and I and like,
Speaker 1: if I had said Horney, it would have been too scandalous.
Speaker 1: But it was like a bunch of thirteen year olds
Speaker 1: who fucking flipped out that I did Austin Powers so well.
Speaker 1: And then I was like a king the rest of
Speaker 1: that trip. Wow, Yeah, it launched you. I can see
Speaker 1: it so clearly in my mind's eye, you as a
Speaker 1: baby saying do I make you Horney? Baby? And like
Speaker 1: going for it? And I'm telling you you should bring
Speaker 1: that on to Saturday Night Life. You should use Austin Powers.
Speaker 1: That I think Austin Powers would be a really good
Speaker 1: character for you. That I agree, definitely, you know what's
Speaker 1: funny though, is if you if you go watch those
Speaker 1: well I don't know if you go watch like a
Speaker 1: video of them, but I feel like if we saw
Speaker 1: you doing that Bone or you doing that Matt, it
Speaker 1: would still hit because when I know something is good,
Speaker 1: they're not kidding, They're like, wait, that's fucking funny, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, well say something. I'm you're
Speaker 1: being disrespectful. It wasn't funny. It was really good dancing.
Speaker 1: I was disrespectful, you know what I mean? Like you
Speaker 1: said you think it was funny. Honestly though, all I
Speaker 1: wish and I don't wish this, but it wouldn't it
Speaker 1: be wonderful to have had it documented? And how stupid
Speaker 1: that it wasn't, like, come on, parents, Where was Richie
Speaker 1: and Trina with the goddamn camera? Like? Get Because I
Speaker 1: will say, there's nothing more humiliating than like And this
Speaker 1: has happened to me recently as well. Not recently, but
Speaker 1: it's happened to me in my life, where like they
Speaker 1: dig up like the old videos from way back, and
Speaker 1: it's just you earnestly performing or singing. A video of
Speaker 1: me singing, ain't no mountain high enough I want, but
Speaker 1: if it ever came out, I'd be ruined. It's it's
Speaker 1: not right. Yeah, I bet it's really good. Yeah. Wait, Brian,
Speaker 1: where did you grow up? I grew up in the
Speaker 1: super World, Tennessee's right. Where did you guys go at
Speaker 1: your Long Island met and you in Colorado? Yeah? Wait?
Speaker 1: Where in Colorado? Aurora? Where? Okay, there have been many shooting?
Speaker 1: Is that is that close to Glenwood Springs? Have you
Speaker 1: been there? Um? It is not? Hold on, let me,
Speaker 1: I gotta do a quickly it is. Let's find out. No,
Speaker 1: Glenwood Springs is. Yes, it is up in the mountains. Um,
Speaker 1: it's past aspen Um west. If you if you were
Speaker 1: to keep driving west to Utah, that's where here parts
Speaker 1: of Colorado were like hot. Yeah, I was in Denver.
Speaker 1: I've been in Denver a couple of times recently. Wait,
Speaker 1: but there's also this thing when you go to you
Speaker 1: have you spent time in Denver? Yeah? Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: a suburb of Denver. But yes, yes, oh oh okay. Um,
Speaker 1: there's this thing when you go to Denver and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go skiing and then you like, you know,
Speaker 1: book a spot at brecon Ridge or something or one
Speaker 1: of the skiers and then you can do that drive
Speaker 1: in and it is the most bumper to bumper traffic
Speaker 1: for like eight hours. Oh yeah, it's it gets so
Speaker 1: clogged up that you're like, oh, I should have just
Speaker 1: stayed in the small town. Like it's it's not it's
Speaker 1: not so accessible to get in and out of the skiers.
Speaker 1: Do we think we can do anything about that? Or yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I think there are flights direct flights, not
Speaker 1: direct flights, but you could connect it from Denver to
Speaker 1: brecon Ridge or I mean you can fly into these
Speaker 1: I think there's there's a very small, tiny tiny plane.
Speaker 1: Would listen, people have done it. People do it all
Speaker 1: the time there, but we didn't go until like we
Speaker 1: just couldn't afford it until like I was in college,
Speaker 1: and then I didn't start doing that. Are you good
Speaker 1: at king? No, I'm okay at it. Your skier, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm okay at it. I would say I'm intermediate. Like
Speaker 1: if I get on a black Diamond, I could figure
Speaker 1: I can shut up. I just ski I skied in
Speaker 1: the No. No, no, but I would not be good.
Speaker 1: No. No No, I know what you're saying. I know exactly
Speaker 1: what you mean. You so you actually can navigate a
Speaker 1: black diamond like you can really very poorly. No, I
Speaker 1: mean I would not I wouldn't die, but I would
Speaker 1: go down in a way that most people would think
Speaker 1: was funny. And people would also be like, get out
Speaker 1: of my way. I think the same. But I was
Speaker 1: just in the French French, No, the Swiss Alps actually,
Speaker 1: and I did. I did ski over by the matter
Speaker 1: work and it was really cool. Wow. I got on
Speaker 1: a slope. I got on a slope that was way
Speaker 1: too intense, and I was I was sort of stopped
Speaker 1: on and I was saying to the sky like should
Speaker 1: I do this or should I walk back up? And
Speaker 1: he was like, you're in it, now go for it,
Speaker 1: and so I did and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: look I'm doing it. And then I did like hit
Speaker 1: something and took a really intense tumble in the like
Speaker 1: landed floor. Yeah. I was wearing a helmet. It was yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really cool. It was like the mountains are
Speaker 1: so high that you're you're actually skiing above the clouds,
Speaker 1: like you're on these mountains. Then you see the clouds
Speaker 1: like down below because you're so high open. Wait, that's incredible. Wow.
Speaker 1: I think like skiing as a concept appeals to me,
Speaker 1: but I really feel like it's kind of like if
Speaker 1: you decided now like to pick up a guitar and
Speaker 1: learn it, It's like I don't think I could. It's
Speaker 1: like when you try to learn a new language but
Speaker 1: you're too old or something like it's something that I
Speaker 1: just missed the boat on it, And it's like that
Speaker 1: with skiing. It's like that you've never got it once. Man,
Speaker 1: I've never ever once. I actually disagree, and I think
Speaker 1: you could pick it. I think you could pick it up.
Speaker 1: I really did. It's easier than snowboarding to learn, which
Speaker 1: which is really weird to me, like that does not
Speaker 1: compute in my brain that like seld be easier than snowboarding.
Speaker 1: But then I guess, I guess it makes sense. But
Speaker 1: also it was funny too, because when I was a
Speaker 1: little kid, like all the video games I play were
Speaker 1: all like intense, like the snowboarding video games, Like do
Speaker 1: you remember like SSX Tricky. I loosed to love that ship.
Speaker 1: You had the hots for Simon? You always talk about Simon.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, I did have the hots for Simon.
Speaker 1: Like that thing, that very very visceral thing of really
Speaker 1: wanting to fuck a video game character. Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: that happens. Yeah, I've had that a lot in my life.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, a lot of them were beautiful professional
Speaker 1: athletes turned into video game characters. Was this a this
Speaker 1: was a real person or he was just a video game?
Speaker 1: He was compute? Was computer animated and play at the
Speaker 1: character in a snowboarding video game. And I don't remember
Speaker 1: voiced him, but I do remember that one of the
Speaker 1: characters was voiced by Macy Gray, who oh my god.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking that was so fucking cool, like that Macy,
Speaker 1: like that Macy Gray song was so big when we
Speaker 1: were growing song Dominated Dominated. It is such a good song.
Speaker 1: Anytime it came on the radio, you would free. I
Speaker 1: know sometimes I look back and I'm just like things
Speaker 1: would take over in such a massive way that it's
Speaker 1: like what takes over like that? And everything moves like
Speaker 1: it feels like a little bit faster now, you know,
Speaker 1: Like when when All Star by Smashed Mouth was out,
Speaker 1: it was like you would hear it a hundred times
Speaker 1: a day for like a year and a half or something.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, so crazy longer than that, it seems. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like a decades long affair. That sounds cool,
Speaker 1: But I think it's especially meaningful now if something really hits,
Speaker 1: because it's people really making a choice to go and
Speaker 1: then like see it here and engage with it. So
Speaker 1: I feel like not to bring it back to Megan,
Speaker 1: but like Megan like was a really special thing. I
Speaker 1: think for like these times where it's like, oh, everyone's
Speaker 1: talking about this one thing at the same time and
Speaker 1: that never happened anymore, I agree that was that was
Speaker 1: part of what was so cool about it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it sort of felt like the movies are back. It
Speaker 1: was like whoa, people are going to the theater over
Speaker 1: and over again to see this movie and it just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's such a good movie. It's so it's so like
Speaker 1: self aware, it's so like, well, it knows its own joke.
Speaker 1: But then it also just has a really good plot.
Speaker 1: And I think what was so cool about Megan too
Speaker 1: was like everybody, everybody was obsessed with the ad campaign
Speaker 1: and it was it was really well done. But then
Speaker 1: I think everybody expected the movie to be bad, and
Speaker 1: then the fact that the movie was just super entertaining
Speaker 1: and well made, and I think it was just shocked people.
Speaker 1: It was a really great movie, you know, and so
Speaker 1: it was sort of one two hit, but you're right,
Speaker 1: it was. It was cool because it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time there's been sort of
Speaker 1: a cultural moment, you know, around a movie like this.
Speaker 1: It was cool. Yeah. Well, speaking of projects, just before
Speaker 1: we get into Don't Think, somebody, tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about the Effect show. What can you say? So
Speaker 1: I was, I can't share a lot, but what I
Speaker 1: what I can say is are the facts, which is, um,
Speaker 1: it is an amazing project I'm extremely excited about with FX.
Speaker 1: We shot the pilot already and um now we are
Speaker 1: in the process of writing some more of it and
Speaker 1: it's all very sighting and it's all looking really great.
Speaker 1: Has been great to work with. The cast is awesome
Speaker 1: and that I believe is all I should say right now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's really cool and exciting and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm here in New York working on. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's been such a dream comes true. And like I
Speaker 1: was saying before, I got tired of the city a
Speaker 1: little bit, it's so cool to be like brought to
Speaker 1: New York. You know, it feels very fancy, you know,
Speaker 1: because New York, New York when you're like, like I struggle.
Speaker 1: I was a young struggling actor in LA in a
Speaker 1: way that I do not envy people that had to
Speaker 1: do that in New York. I feel like it's easier
Speaker 1: to do that in LA. But but coming to New
Speaker 1: York with a job and you know, is like it
Speaker 1: just feels very like, oh my god, I'm just you
Speaker 1: get sort of dropped into being this this cool city person,
Speaker 1: except I don't you don't know where any of the
Speaker 1: parks are, and I don't really know what Upstate is.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you you never have to go to
Speaker 1: Central Park. Oh my god, what is this campaign? I
Speaker 1: love that that you're sort of the rep for like
Speaker 1: anti Central Park sentiment. Look, you went out to Upstate
Speaker 1: New York and you got nature, and you're fine, Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah no. But because that's the other thing. It's like
Speaker 1: Central Park is so big and beautiful, but it also
Speaker 1: it's like actually in the center of this so there's
Speaker 1: like city on all sides. So I'm looking, I'm looking
Speaker 1: for fresh air. And if there's city all around it,
Speaker 1: how how fresh can the air be I. I don't
Speaker 1: know when you actually find out just how fake the
Speaker 1: park is, Like so fakes are fake, like none of
Speaker 1: it's real, you know what I'm saying. It's like so fake.
Speaker 1: There's this park in Atlanta, Piedmont Park, that's also very beautiful,
Speaker 1: and it was designed by the same guy who designed
Speaker 1: Central Park. And I remember somebody telling you that Frederick
Speaker 1: law Olmstead or something, right, But that when somebody told
Speaker 1: me that, that was the first time I realized that
Speaker 1: parks are even designed. Because I was so buff into
Speaker 1: the fact that they were. I thought I was just
Speaker 1: like in the forest, but it was not even once forest.
Speaker 1: It's fake and it's they put it wasn't before it
Speaker 1: used to be skyscraper. It was naturally occurring skyscrapers. No,
Speaker 1: I think it was literally like Grassland. I think, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a fake as bad as thing. But
Speaker 1: no Prospect Park in Brooklyn. Prospect Parks in Brooklyn, that's
Speaker 1: that's another Homestead park, like really beautiful. And you love
Speaker 1: Fort Green, you love mccare and a lot of fun, cute,
Speaker 1: beautiful people go, I don't know what, How how long
Speaker 1: are you gonna be in the city for I'm here
Speaker 1: for quite a while. I'm here until the end of April,
Speaker 1: so like another month in a week, okay, great and
Speaker 1: a warm up. It'll be it'll be great. That's so
Speaker 1: cool too, because I feel like people obviously know you
Speaker 1: was an amazing performer, but I feel like you wrote
Speaker 1: Caleb Gallo right, yeah, obviously it's so well written. Thank
Speaker 1: you so mumuch singular singular honey, Yeah, I know it's
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting doing that in a official traditional yeah,
Speaker 1: and an official mapacity. Yeah. But it's been really I
Speaker 1: there's this great guy working on the show with us,
Speaker 1: Paul Sims, who's such a genius, and he he did
Speaker 1: Atlanta with Donald Glover and he does going to do
Speaker 1: in the Shadows, and he's such a he's such a
Speaker 1: wonderful guide for sort of the parts of it that
Speaker 1: are new to me. And he's been he's been such
Speaker 1: a blessing. It's really great. Well, good for you and
Speaker 1: good for us. And the writers in the writer's room
Speaker 1: are so great and everyone is so great. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: can tell it's gonna be great. You deserve it. I
Speaker 1: honestly like, if there's anyone who deserves it's you, We're
Speaker 1: proud of you, were happy for you, get you so much.
Speaker 1: This is the moment where we're gonna segue into I
Speaker 1: Don't Think So, Honey, which is really our big segment.
Speaker 1: Bou I would say, I'd call it the big segment.
Speaker 1: It's the big one. I'm gonna get it. Get my phone, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's going to be important because the reason why Bowen
Speaker 1: needs to get a phone, this is sort of a
Speaker 1: peak behind the curtain readers, is because we put one
Speaker 1: minute on the clock and we rail against something in
Speaker 1: culture that needs to be absolutely dragged. I feel like
Speaker 1: I have something. It's I don't want to target a
Speaker 1: specific person at the Adel concert last night, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to, oh, are you gonna specifically target
Speaker 1: someone this week? Not somebody the adult concert, it's someone specifically,
Speaker 1: and I haven't done that in a while, but yeah,
Speaker 1: got it. Okay, So this person is gonna be um.
Speaker 1: She represents something bigger. And I also just want to
Speaker 1: say before I do this that I also saw another
Speaker 1: concert which I immediately texted Bone about, which is Chapel Rone.
Speaker 1: Fucking get on board everyone, this girl is going to
Speaker 1: be a huge, huge, huge star Okay, now I'm reading
Speaker 1: She's incredible. Yeah, it's garma. Listen. Is a legendary, powerful
Speaker 1: song that will be remembered and standing this ass of time. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so honeys, time
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so honey. You shush people
Speaker 1: singing along with the adult concert. I have news for you.
Speaker 1: You were in Las Vegas, Nevada. We're singing along like,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. If you don't think, no
Speaker 1: that please. It is the wild West in Las Vegas, Nevada,
Speaker 1: which is a rural culture of real vulture number seventy,
Speaker 1: And that means I'm singing you know what. Here's here's
Speaker 1: what you have to do at a show like Adele.
Speaker 1: Let us sing the verses. Let us sing the first
Speaker 1: chorus and then the rest of the choruses are ours
Speaker 1: and also iconic moments in certain verses that we all know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we all know like
Speaker 1: what we're singing along too, and what we're not. No
Speaker 1: one was being disrespectful. There was one woman who sort
Speaker 1: of tossed a glance over to me and my friends,
Speaker 1: and it was I didn't even make an issue of
Speaker 1: it because I was too in my moment, in my feelings.
Speaker 1: But don't be shushing me. At Adele concert, we're all here.
Speaker 1: We can hear her very well. You can deal with
Speaker 1: me for one second. We're having a cathartic experience. It
Speaker 1: is open sobbing season. I don't think so the openly
Speaker 1: sobbing community is also the openly singing community at Adele
Speaker 1: weekends with all which, by the way, I think, is
Speaker 1: like I'm almost over, so you can't even go. Even
Speaker 1: if you wanted to go and you listen to this,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't go. But other people it's like
Speaker 1: the whole crowd was singing along. It was a very communal,
Speaker 1: cathartic experience and we were and there's just there. There
Speaker 1: was one woman. I think I don't even remember what
Speaker 1: song it was, but I was like it might have
Speaker 1: even it wasn't anything up tempo, because like, no one
Speaker 1: was being that ridiculous. But I think there was one
Speaker 1: ballot where it's just like someone maybe just jumped in
Speaker 1: or chimed in on one thing and you got a
Speaker 1: dirty look. It's like not here, this is this is
Speaker 1: a place of good energy and we're supporting each other
Speaker 1: and we're actually holding hands. Do not look at me
Speaker 1: when I sing along with a doubt. It's just futile, futile.
Speaker 1: And at that point it's like what do you do?
Speaker 1: There's no point. And someone got in the DMS and
Speaker 1: they were like, how do we feel about everyone's singing along?
Speaker 1: And like you can't even hear her? And I didn't
Speaker 1: even respond because I was like, how do I feel
Speaker 1: about it? I'm participating some wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Somebody got in the d somebody got in there. I
Speaker 1: posted it. I thought there was like some like some
Speaker 1: public DMS or something. I literally was. I thought there
Speaker 1: was a discord. I didn't know where thems like I posted.
Speaker 1: I think it was her doing. Maybe it was Hello,
Speaker 1: just because it was the first number, and I posted
Speaker 1: it and yes, everyone was singing along. And someone said
Speaker 1: to me, so, how do we feel about everyone's singing along?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, uh wait, it's because there was just
Speaker 1: that thing that went viral of somebody singing. Did you
Speaker 1: guys see this? I think it was either Billy Eilish
Speaker 1: or Taylor Swift. But there's something that's going viral right
Speaker 1: now on Twitter and I think that's why it's that
Speaker 1: somebody is filming a concert and then you can hear
Speaker 1: the person right next to the the person who's filming singing
Speaker 1: over it, very loudly and badly. But the differences, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you were singing very well. I can't confirm our
Speaker 1: deny that I was just as big of a star
Speaker 1: last night as I was when I was a little
Speaker 1: kid in that stage, absolutely slaying larger than life Coreo,
Speaker 1: I can't confirm her, Jenny, but a summer camp performance,
Speaker 1: the fucking what was the other one? I want it
Speaker 1: that way or in that same Backstreet Boy's moment, And
Speaker 1: I bet you were incredible. I bet you were incredible.
Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking about you doing that, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know it was stern. I think the differences. I
Speaker 1: think it was lip sinking. You were really singing right,
Speaker 1: No dancing, you guys were also, I can't actually see
Speaker 1: this is this is a thing like, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: to all my girls out there who are maybe still
Speaker 1: doing dance contests and dance routines. You really have to
Speaker 1: get on the same page with your girls about like
Speaker 1: whether or not you're lip syncing the song or not,
Speaker 1: because I think that I was sort of the stand
Speaker 1: in for like lead singer, being the boy out of
Speaker 1: the three of us. Like that, I think I may
Speaker 1: have been lip syncing, which also had to have been humiliating.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the girls were lip singing, but
Speaker 1: I can't I can't be sure. So you sort of
Speaker 1: inadvertently turn them into your knack up dance. Yeah, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I wait, can we talk about quickly how Backstreet Boys
Speaker 1: really gave us, like just a small enough trapdoor for
Speaker 1: like closeted boys in that time to like, right do something.
Speaker 1: We're able to channel something a little bit a little gay,
Speaker 1: but palatable and appealing enough to like everybody, you are
Speaker 1: hitting on something so deep. We have to be thankful
Speaker 1: for the Backstreet Boys. We really do you have like
Speaker 1: a good detective nose for these sort of gay No
Speaker 1: one has an amazing nose for gay. I didn't pick
Speaker 1: up on the gay sun and all about my mother,
Speaker 1: and I didn't pick up on the fact that Backstreet
Speaker 1: Boys they really they were offering something to us as
Speaker 1: gay kids. Well, as soon as you said it, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the metrosexual era, we forget it. That was
Speaker 1: such a big moment, which, by the way, is such
Speaker 1: a humiliating thing that was so widely accepted the idea
Speaker 1: of the metrosexual, like, how dare these people actually use
Speaker 1: their bus for sex? But we love when they and
Speaker 1: we love and respect and understand that they want to
Speaker 1: do their hair like it's like that era of sexual shame,
Speaker 1: But pride and appearance was intrinsically tied to that musical
Speaker 1: moment that ripe time in the culture in the late
Speaker 1: nineties early aughts, where it was you know, Clay Aken,
Speaker 1: Ryan Seacrest, like men who absolutely love vagina. They wanted
Speaker 1: they want to talk about it all night. Wait, wait, question,
Speaker 1: did you do you guys think of Backstreet Boys as
Speaker 1: having been way bigger than in Sync or do you
Speaker 1: think of them as exactly the same favorable or do
Speaker 1: you think of in Sync is bigger? I feel like
Speaker 1: n Sync got bigger once they hit their peak. I
Speaker 1: remember Backstreet Boys coming first, and I remember I remember
Speaker 1: they were like the moment and then in stinc was
Speaker 1: like sort of the Christina Aguilera, if you will, they
Speaker 1: really were the Christi Pepsi. There's always the Pepsi. There's
Speaker 1: always Pepsi's coach number eight. There's always wait, but was
Speaker 1: did Brittany do the amazing pepsi outer or did you
Speaker 1: do the amazing And I believe Christina was diet coke
Speaker 1: or coke like like they so transparently like the other
Speaker 1: one like and but this is a world where like so,
Speaker 1: I think it was different because Backstreet Boys was first,
Speaker 1: and then instinct came along and I think kind of
Speaker 1: took over. And this will be a world where Christina
Speaker 1: Aguilera had come along after Brittany and taken over, which is,
Speaker 1: of course the world we don't live in. Boone Yang,
Speaker 1: you're ready to tell you? I don't think so, honey, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. Okay, Well that's good. This is bone yangs.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. It's time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, Lar step Pippin maybe soon to
Speaker 1: be Lar step Pippin Jordan. Your behavior at the reunion
Speaker 1: for the Real Houses in Miami is truly beyond the pale.
Speaker 1: How about dare you tell doctor Nicole that being an
Speaker 1: annesthseologist is not a real job. Sure, like anesthesiologists get
Speaker 1: like shout on within the medical community, but like the
Speaker 1: only people you have to thank are doctors. Larsa, the
Speaker 1: only people you have to thank are doctors and basketball players.
Speaker 1: You cannot come after this woman for like working in
Speaker 1: a hospital and then literally like fucking her career up
Speaker 1: potentially by saying that she's fucked every doctor in the hospital.
Speaker 1: And I part of me is like, oh, I actually,
Speaker 1: it's refreshing that Larsa's is sort of like flipping occupational
Speaker 1: stigma on its head, like, let's time we've given doctors
Speaker 1: some guff or something. Second, but it is revolutionary for
Speaker 1: her as an only fans foot model to like really
Speaker 1: come after her. But it's not, it's not the move.
Speaker 1: Larsa is fully an idiot by the end of the
Speaker 1: whole reunion, and that is one minute. And I'm so
Speaker 1: happy you brought it up because watching Larsa Pippen, who's
Speaker 1: famously and only fans foot moodels, say to a medical
Speaker 1: doctor that she actually a real job was one of
Speaker 1: the craziest things I've ever seen. And Brian, if you're
Speaker 1: going to get into a house, it has to be
Speaker 1: real houseivees of Miami, and Miami has of course come
Speaker 1: up on the episode prior, but they have a real
Speaker 1: Housewives franchise in that city. That is doing, as they say,
Speaker 1: what the other girls were supposed to have done. It
Speaker 1: is high art. This reunion is unhinged. To say nothing
Speaker 1: of Adriana's behavior, that is so crazy, to say nothing
Speaker 1: of Alexia. It is her saying to Lisa Hagstein that
Speaker 1: her husband would have stayed with her if she thought
Speaker 1: she was a star. If you believe you were a star,
Speaker 1: you had more confidence. If she had more confidence. Yea,
Speaker 1: she is wild. I said, she's Teresa Judais with more
Speaker 1: words per minute, which is not good. But I have
Speaker 1: no notes. This is the best television that is on
Speaker 1: and I implore just as we did several years ago.
Speaker 1: But with Potomac, we told everyone, don't sleep on Potomac.
Speaker 1: Do not be sleeping on the Real House of Miami.
Speaker 1: It is high art. Brian, if you like Selling Sunset,
Speaker 1: what seasons should you start on? You can start on four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can start on four, but selling. If you like
Speaker 1: Selling Sunset, you will love Miami. And you can start
Speaker 1: on four because that's when they rebooted it on Peacock,
Speaker 1: so you can watch it on Peacock. Oh, okay, Peacock. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're the biggest supporters of Peacock that are out there,
Speaker 1: like we can ironically talk about Peacock constantly. Megan is
Speaker 1: also on Peacock. It's not a mistake. And you know
Speaker 1: what else is on peacock, Tar Tar, Yes, Hun Tar
Speaker 1: is streaming now because nothing says Peacock like Lydia Tar.
Speaker 1: I will say it's rule culture number one. Tar now
Speaker 1: on pea Peacock. Thank you, Donna Langley ahead of head
Speaker 1: of Universal. Sorry, go ahead, you guys don't know the
Speaker 1: people that run that Lydia Tar Twitter account. You it's so,
Speaker 1: but I want to find them so I can vote
Speaker 1: for them for president of the United States. No, it's
Speaker 1: very funny. She's always tweeting shit like looking for looking
Speaker 1: for a new young female assistant, like looking to to
Speaker 1: help someone. It's new to the industry, Lydia Tar, and
Speaker 1: it's such an icon. She's an icon. I did think
Speaker 1: she was real the whole movie. I know everyone had
Speaker 1: confusion about this. I know I was. I was in
Speaker 1: the same club. It's something about how specific the movie is,
Speaker 1: where you go, oh, well, this is probably a somewhat
Speaker 1: fictionalized but I bet this is really based on somebody real,
Speaker 1: which maybe is kind of true, but it's there's parts
Speaker 1: of the the movie where you're like, wait, this has to
Speaker 1: be historical, this has to be a person. It's just not.
Speaker 1: I love how she drives that cream colored corn Berlin,
Speaker 1: And it's the way Kate perform right, the way Kate
Speaker 1: performance that makes you think it's a biopic. It's giving,
Speaker 1: it's giving biopic acting. Yeah, it will Alwait, Lydia Tar,
Speaker 1: you will always be famous and you will always be real.
Speaker 1: You always you can always be real, and you'll always
Speaker 1: have existed. Yeah, you all have existed. Okay, so this
Speaker 1: is sort of the when, to quote Ariana Grande, Brian,
Speaker 1: you do your I don't think so, honey, Are you
Speaker 1: ready for this? I am ready. I'm hoping I have them.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to have a minute's worth it. Okay, I
Speaker 1: think you do. This is Brian Jordan Alvarez's I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Any time starts now, Okay, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: These fake TikTok pranks that are so obviously fake and
Speaker 1: everybody is laughing at them like they're real. And then
Speaker 1: my boyfriend shows me these like and I go and
Speaker 1: I just there's just something subtle going on in them,
Speaker 1: where like you can tell, like, even if that prank
Speaker 1: had been real, the way the person's reacting, they're definitely
Speaker 1: acting the way would act if they knew it's acting.
Speaker 1: Even if it's good acting, you can tell if it's acting.
Speaker 1: And then my boyfriend, who I love obviously, will show
Speaker 1: them to me and I'll go, that's fake, and he'll
Speaker 1: go he cares if it's fake. It's funny, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: who doesn't care if it's fake? This is only funny
Speaker 1: because it's supposed to be not fake. This is supposed
Speaker 1: to be a fictional narrative video. Then I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: laughing at different things that this is supposed to be documentary. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I'm suppo be laughing at the reality of this
Speaker 1: and this is not real, So I care. I don't
Speaker 1: think so hunt period. That was excellent. I'm free, You're
Speaker 1: you're really right? Isn't that so true? Though? Has anybody
Speaker 1: ever done that where they're where they're like, well, who
Speaker 1: cares if it's fake? And it's like, what do you
Speaker 1: mean make a difference? Yeah? Different? Wasn't there a kid
Speaker 1: who like covered his whole kitchen and peanut butter or
Speaker 1: something like every break, every like every cupboard door, the fridge,
Speaker 1: that fake shit off my timeline. It's also not a prank.
Speaker 1: That's just a mess. It's not a prank. I know that.
Speaker 1: I know. The expression prank these days is so loose.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, I think you just hit someone. Actually
Speaker 1: I don't think that was a right you you just assault.
Speaker 1: It's just physical violence. Yeah, that's just cruelty that you
Speaker 1: post it. Yeah. I feel like pranks, pranks have like
Speaker 1: lifted off of April Fools, Like no one really gives
Speaker 1: a shit of April Fools anymore, but they're like proliferated
Speaker 1: through apols. It's fallen off for sure. Maybe it's like
Speaker 1: there's a gen z affinity to it because I guess
Speaker 1: like Jim would do it on the office a lot
Speaker 1: with like prank Dwight or whatever the fuck, And so
Speaker 1: now these kids are like, oh, pranks are the highest
Speaker 1: form of art and comedy. Let's do it on TikTok. Literally,
Speaker 1: it's just because it's a light lift and you can
Speaker 1: literally just post it. It's like what people who are
Speaker 1: obsessed with fails, you know what I mean? Like, and
Speaker 1: that always like drove me nuts, Like I can't sit
Speaker 1: through fails. I can't sit through like when oh, here's
Speaker 1: a video of someone get this getting really hurt. I
Speaker 1: can't do it. Here's a video of someone's skateboarding and
Speaker 1: what happened to them? They probably should be dead? Do
Speaker 1: you want to watch it again? Like, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, it doesn't Yeah, it never. It never
Speaker 1: makes me laugh, yeah, because you're just like, are they dead?
Speaker 1: Like what happened? Like what's the conclusion of this film?
Speaker 1: You know? Are they right? And then the thing is
Speaker 1: you don't want to answer to that question sometimes, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's just like because sometimes like
Speaker 1: sometimes get this, like you put the phone down and said, haha,
Speaker 1: that was funny. Mama's dead, you know what I mean? Dad, Wait, Matt.
Speaker 1: On the subject of falling though, you should learn to ski. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it would kind of be a chic look
Speaker 1: for me to picture it is. It's such a chic
Speaker 1: you feel so cool. Yeah, when you don't. I have
Speaker 1: yet to go to a gay ski week, but I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the high. Apparently there's one happening
Speaker 1: right now. Right. They have them all the time, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: all the time. It's it's endless. No, I mean they
Speaker 1: have different cities. Is there is there one nearby? It's
Speaker 1: like mammoth SI, I believe, And like tons of gays
Speaker 1: are not like in LA because they're all skiing. And
Speaker 1: I was like huh. I was like, what, oh wait,
Speaker 1: are you guys in LA. No, you're in LA. I'm
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, California. Did you move it? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't have to reveal that to No. I'm open about
Speaker 1: the fact that I moved to LA four about five
Speaker 1: years ago. And I actually I just just got another
Speaker 1: place in New York. So I'm gonna be Bicoastal. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna live in New York City and Los Angeles, California. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it's exciting. It's good. I'm excited about it. The new Era,
Speaker 1: a New Chapters is still owner. It's him. Did you
Speaker 1: hear my voice? Just dude, like a Tyrondosaurus Racks. You
Speaker 1: were screaming at Adele last night. Hold on one last thing.
Speaker 1: If I were to watch if I were to watch Tar,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make a difference to me if Tar is
Speaker 1: real or fake. Oh my god. That is the one exception. Wow,
Speaker 1: you have an amazing nose bow. Wow. No, it's an
Speaker 1: amazing nose. Thank you. Now. Was anything gay happening in Tar?
Speaker 1: Is the question? One hundred? No, I don't think I
Speaker 1: watched that movie, and I had not. I feel like
Speaker 1: it is possible to watch that movie and not maybe
Speaker 1: not pick up all the fact she's a lesbian. What
Speaker 1: I watch? That's because he could have just been like
Speaker 1: her good sins. So the film's about her her friends
Speaker 1: or was Yeah, listening with them and my voice is
Speaker 1: literally telling me it's time to rap because I'm a rap. Um. Wait, Brian,
Speaker 1: this was so fun, and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: doing I love you, Thank you so much for you
Speaker 1: so much, and you got to come back. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would love. So three of us have to get together
Speaker 1: and be stupid in person. Go to park. Can't wait,
Speaker 1: Let's go to a park. Let's go to Prospect Park.
Speaker 1: Stream Megan on Peacock but not before Tar and we
Speaker 1: and oh god, but and I'm dying. We end every
Speaker 1: episode with a song. Okay, so dude, digget tiget. I
Speaker 1: don't don't look back now, do you do? The end?
Speaker 1: It's so iconic, so take it. I'm not really voting.
Speaker 1: I'm not really enunciating the word. What is it? What
Speaker 1: do you sounded like? Adele? You have an amazing nose,
Speaker 1: an amazing voice, amazing nose, amazing voice. Thank you for
Speaker 1: listening to this episode of Ictusis with Me, Rogers and
Speaker 1: boll And Yang. It just won the Best Podcast award
Speaker 1: at the iHeart Radio Podcast Awards and we are the
Speaker 1: best podcast in the world. Thank you so much. Critical
Speaker 1: Acclaim award winning feels incredible. Seven years in the game,
Speaker 1: finally you were an award winning podcast. Is none better.
Speaker 1: Sorry everyone, Bye bye.