WEBVTT - Wonder Woman: Amy Schumer

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone. Today, I am reporting to you from my

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<v Speaker 1>park car on a side street and for Manhattan. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>why on earth is that? Well, it's because I just

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<v Speaker 1>stepped out of Amy Schumer's apartment, which sounds like the

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<v Speaker 1>name of a new TV show, Amy Schumer's Apartment, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to tell you all about our conversation while

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<v Speaker 1>it's still fresh in my mind. Amy Schumer, the comedian, actress,

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<v Speaker 1>writer and now Broadway star, is the latest lady in

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<v Speaker 1>our Wonder Women's series. It was just us gals in

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<v Speaker 1>her apartment. Yes, I'm pretty excited about that for our chat.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you heard, Brian already barged into the ads,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't worry, Brian will be back again during the

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<v Speaker 1>break and credits as well, and of course for next

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<v Speaker 1>week's episode two. As for my interview with Amy, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot to cover. She's been so productive since

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<v Speaker 1>bursting onto the national stage back in two thousand seven

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<v Speaker 1>when she was a contestant Believe It or Not on

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<v Speaker 1>NBC's Last Comic Standing turned out pretty well for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy made her mark in stand Up with her signature

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<v Speaker 1>brand of taboo busting and unapologetically raunchy comedy, and to

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<v Speaker 1>give you an idea. Her first stand up special was

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<v Speaker 1>called Mostly Sex Stuff. Now more recently, she's also flexed

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<v Speaker 1>her skills and acting, producing and writing. Of course, I

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<v Speaker 1>love train Wreck, you probably did too. She started movies

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<v Speaker 1>Penda best selling memoir The Girl with the Lower Back

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<v Speaker 1>Tattoo Bunny Huh, and she's won awards for her hit

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<v Speaker 1>sketch series on Comedy Central. And if that weren't enough,

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<v Speaker 1>she's fresh off her Broadway debut in a play written

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<v Speaker 1>by Steve Martin called Meteor Shower. Fair warning, Amy is

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<v Speaker 1>known for being a little bit body and to kick

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<v Speaker 1>things off, I decided to clear the air and revisit

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<v Speaker 1>the time that Amy full On pranked me. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably a bit r rated, so you may not want

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to this episode with the kids, actually, if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't had the talk yet, or maybe even if

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<v Speaker 1>you have. We have so much to talk about. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Amy, we should give people a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the backstory of our last history, because you have

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<v Speaker 1>utilized me and some of your were such a great

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<v Speaker 1>sport and like I just I mean, I'm such a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of yours anyway, and I'm very grateful to your work. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>for real, like thank you. Yeah, it's it's I I

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<v Speaker 1>feel a little choked up that you're you're here in

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<v Speaker 1>my home, So thank you, and you just were such

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<v Speaker 1>a great sport. It was tell the story. Okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell the story. It was that it was after the

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<v Speaker 1>Glamor Glamour Women of the Year Awards. We were at

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<v Speaker 1>this after party and at our table it was Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Mindy Kaling and we were next to each other and

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<v Speaker 1>your husband arrived and you were like, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, oh my god. He was an embarrassed he's

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<v Speaker 1>crashing like you were. You know, actually I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of aggregated with him because he you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>invite him. I love you, John, but he wasn't invited

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<v Speaker 1>and he sort of just showed up and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, what is my husband doing here? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of even though Stephen was at our table,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a girl powered thing, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a bring your really it's not really a plus one.

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<v Speaker 1>And so John walked in and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, what's going on? My husband's here? So I

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<v Speaker 1>got up because he made a bee line to Carrie Russell.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that. Yeah. I was like, oh no, he who

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<v Speaker 1>he loves. Yes, he loves Carrie Russell. So I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I better go say hi to him, or he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave this party with Carrie Russell. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>up and I left my phone on the table. Left

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<v Speaker 1>your phone on the table, unlocked, unlocked, And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>on you, you very cageally, I, without thinking about it

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<v Speaker 1>and without consulting anyone, just picked up your phone. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that you had just text your husband, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I text him saying I want to have anal tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest is history. So it was so funny

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<v Speaker 1>because from my perspective, so I kind of like, I go,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my, because I just have these impulses to do,

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<v Speaker 1>like what's the worst thing I could do right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and then kind of check with people to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh it's okay. So I go, Mindy, I just and

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<v Speaker 1>I showed Steven and they're just Mindy was like very alarmed,

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<v Speaker 1>as she should have been, and Stephen just fell on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor laughing. And then you, you and your husband

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<v Speaker 1>came back over the table kind of like soon after

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like we're leaving, and it just from my perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, this is absolute hilarious, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if by the way, yes, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was super funny. Yeah, because it actually sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>something that I would do, because a friend I was

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<v Speaker 1>constantly pranking people like that on computers at work when

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<v Speaker 1>they left their computer open. I would do, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>write funny messages to people. But U and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was really funny. My husband actually is really funny

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<v Speaker 1>and a great sense of humor. He thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>funny too, and we laughed about it. But then how

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<v Speaker 1>long later, Cole, I don't know, like you months later,

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<v Speaker 1>months later, I kind of started you were I think

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<v Speaker 1>you were publicizing train Wreck? Was it? Colbert? Oh? Yes, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I talked about it. We went to bed. We

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<v Speaker 1>went to bed, uh, and suddenly our phones were flowing

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<v Speaker 1>up in the morning saying, oh my god, Amy Schumer

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about you guys last night, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, oh god, So I thought it was I

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<v Speaker 1>actually thought it was really funny. And I always was

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<v Speaker 1>upset that you didn't include what John wrote back to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't see. What he texted back was again,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh. If I had if I had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>that text, I would have cried laughing, and I actually

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was really funny. So you you've also used

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<v Speaker 1>it on your HBO special Comedy Special. People really liked

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of that prank, you know, they're like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, the sweetest Yeah. But but but what I

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<v Speaker 1>what The only thing that hurt my feelings is you

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<v Speaker 1>described when I came up to you with the Glamour

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<v Speaker 1>Awards and you said that I said something that I

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<v Speaker 1>never would have said, like I love funny, I love humor,

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<v Speaker 1>I love humor. But I don't think I said that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, well, this is where we have to agree

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<v Speaker 1>to disagree, but just the same, I feel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that was like a couple of years ago, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do feel like I take more responsibility for, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just being more careful with people's feelings and stuff. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it just made me sound like such a tool. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do know you're not. Thank you one of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest people of all times. You're so sweet to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I would never say I love humor.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I do remember going up to you and

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<v Speaker 1>saying Hi, Amy. I just wanted to want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you I'm a big fan of yours and then you

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<v Speaker 1>said I love humor. I did not. I did, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I still am trying to think of how

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<v Speaker 1>to get you back. But I know you actually thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was really funny. So we have so much to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in addition to your texting and pranking my husband,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you've just finished doing Meteor Shower on Broadway,

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<v Speaker 1>which I saw. I thought you were fantastic in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was must have been an incredible experience for

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<v Speaker 1>you because that was your first I mean Broadway Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to do a Broadway play I Want to

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<v Speaker 1>play written by Steve Steve Martin. It's it's still like

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<v Speaker 1>really amazing to me that that happened. So how did

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<v Speaker 1>it all come about? Well, my relationship with Steve was

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<v Speaker 1>I did a play of his called Picasso at the

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<v Speaker 1>Lapana yiel In College and uh, you know, just this

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<v Speaker 1>little student production and such a huge fan of his

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, like everyone else. And then I hosted

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<v Speaker 1>this music show, this music talk show like ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was on with his bluegrass band, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had him signed my copy of the play, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had him signed my copy of his autobiography Born Standing

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<v Speaker 1>up and and I loved his music and everything and

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<v Speaker 1>and he was really play and sweet, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to do like a little bit with him for a

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<v Speaker 1>promo on the show, and I left and I cried

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<v Speaker 1>because I just couldn't believe I got to do a

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<v Speaker 1>bit with Steve Martin. And then I became friends with

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<v Speaker 1>Edie Brikell, and I went to see their musical Bright Star,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then just through friends, like we just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kept running into each other. And then Steve and

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<v Speaker 1>I became friendly and you know, would hang out and

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<v Speaker 1>he'd have some people over dinner or whatever. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he had this play and he said, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to read this play and I'd like you to play

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<v Speaker 1>the role of Quirky. And I was like already thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of yes, I'm doing this, I don't care. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I read it and I was like, this is so

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<v Speaker 1>fun and it will be so great to do this

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<v Speaker 1>role and it's Steve Martin, and so yeah, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the least amount of time I can do it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said if you like that kind of team

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<v Speaker 1>play or energy then and they were like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can do it for like twelve to fifteen weeks, and

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<v Speaker 1>and we did it and what was it fun? What

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<v Speaker 1>was it like? Because you know, watching you you play,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I love the character you play. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>which show you were at. Did I yell at the

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<v Speaker 1>audience at any point? You didn't yell at the Okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>But you were sort of a an exaggerated version of

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<v Speaker 1>some version of yourself in a way a different time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>both both sides and you it was really fun and funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But watching you, I thought, boy, and I think this

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<v Speaker 1>every time I go see a Broadway show. This must

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<v Speaker 1>be so hard. It must be so hard to remember

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. Oh that's not a problem. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I am. My sister tested my Q once and I

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<v Speaker 1>tested in some categories as is if I were a

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<v Speaker 1>special needs person, and like in the low percentile for

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<v Speaker 1>some things like word recognition just reading down a fast list.

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<v Speaker 1>And then some things I tested as a genius, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of those was dismemorization and um and short term memory.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, for stand up for anything. Memorization is

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<v Speaker 1>not a problem for me. But reading like a billboard

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm driving down the street, is I see something

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<v Speaker 1>different than what it says? Really, when you do stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any kind of prompter or any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of que cards that help remind you. A set list

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<v Speaker 1>with keywords. Yeah, so, where's is it? In ane? My

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<v Speaker 1>set list for like a year, it'said Katie kirk as

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<v Speaker 1>the closing bit, I mean people. Yeah, it was good

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<v Speaker 1>enough that it was a closer. So do this wet

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<v Speaker 1>your appetite to do more Broadway? Yeah? Not right away?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, I'm of the theater now. I yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do more theater, but not for a couple of years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I do. So let's talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other things that you've been up to. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>your schedule is crazy, and I love how you are

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<v Speaker 1>doing a little bit of everything. So you're doing some

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<v Speaker 1>stand up stuff. You just you're doing another movie. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel pretty right. Have you finished that movie? Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>editing it. You're editing it. You did uh the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Movie with Goldie Hawn, which was really fine, and you

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<v Speaker 1>did train Wreck with Judd Apatau or toe Apatap. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been saying it wrong for your who seems like an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly nice guy. He's awesome. He's like the sweetest guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially with everything going on culturally, you really appreciate the

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<v Speaker 1>people who have never made you uncomfortable. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>special on Netflix which is really good. Really yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been seeing some snippets of it on his Instagram. But inside,

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Schumer, you're not doing right now, but you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to do more television in the future something. Yeah. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like everything keeps evolving with the you know, the options

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<v Speaker 1>for how people can view content. So I'm open to everything. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk first about the movie that's coming out in June.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? So it's like, tell me a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that. Okay, Well, you know, I came at

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<v Speaker 1>a time where I was going to maybe do this

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<v Speaker 1>other really big movie, and because with Stand Up, I've

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<v Speaker 1>made a lot of money and so it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>can really do stuff I care about now. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're always afraid as a comic. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to have Is this my last set?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the last joke I'll ever? Right? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ever work again? So I was like really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of just make enough money so I could

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I myself and my family and my friends

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<v Speaker 1>were safe. You know, like if somebody got sick, I

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<v Speaker 1>could take care of them. And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>now I really want to I'd love to still make money,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to do stuff that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's really saying something. Um, which was sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>only drawback with doing the play because it was so

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<v Speaker 1>fun and exciting, but during this particular time you I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to be giving all my energy to something

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<v Speaker 1>that was like helping, you know. And even though people

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<v Speaker 1>come and they laugh, it's like the crowds are all

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Broadway goers. It's I don't think it's a secret,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all white, you know pretty much, um, wealthy people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that those tickets are expensive. So I felt a

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<v Speaker 1>little bad about out of the conversation. I was still

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in meetings for Times Up and still active

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<v Speaker 1>as an activist, but my main energy was going into

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<v Speaker 1>that place. So I feel pretty came up and the

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<v Speaker 1>message was just it was just exactly what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to say to um. Two women, because I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm interested in helping everybody that I can, but

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<v Speaker 1>but really I love women and want to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>projects that empower them. And this this movie is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about that. It's really fun and funny and relatable.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yeah, I think there's a really sweet message.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tell us. Can you tell me a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about it? And who else is in it? Okay? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So Michelle Williams is so funny in this movie, and

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<v Speaker 1>um Lauren Hutton plays the role Naomi Campbell. Um Rory Scovell,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a comedian who I've been friends with for fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years and he's so great in this movie. And Adie Bryant,

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<v Speaker 1>who I love her. We became really really close and

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, and Busy Phillips and it's it's a really solid,

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<v Speaker 1>solid cast and we had such a good time. And

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<v Speaker 1>and Emily Raditowski and that's almost a percent not how

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<v Speaker 1>you say her name, but um, you know who I mean. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So she's great, She's amazing and uh and it's about

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<v Speaker 1>um my character, Renee. She doesn't have particularly good self

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<v Speaker 1>esteem and just understands that that people judge you of

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<v Speaker 1>how you look in this world right away, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to move further away from that, but that's the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And she just kind of longs to be um, to

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<v Speaker 1>to have a better job, to go for these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but she just doesn't have the confidence and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hit my head, I fall off a bike and

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<v Speaker 1>insul cycle and then all of a sudden, I see

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<v Speaker 1>myself as an absolute supermodel and everything changes, but changes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the way you relate to the world, Yes, I have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole new life, a whole new person. And

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<v Speaker 1>and um, that's so interesting because really the way you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about yourself, if you feel like you're not attractive

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<v Speaker 1>or something that's going on with you, or you've gained

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<v Speaker 1>weight or whatever, it is amazing for women how much

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<v Speaker 1>that can completely distorts, right, Yeah, you want to hide.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't let you to live to your your potential.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what we want from women the most right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you have so much potential and you can do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need you to lead and and they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>feel held back. And I also have. I know we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about activismly or but Lisa Evans, who's a

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<v Speaker 1>costume designer and a stylist, we started a foundation called

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<v Speaker 1>Style Fund, and it's helping women learn how to dress

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<v Speaker 1>for their bodies and like just kind to give them

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<v Speaker 1>a formula so if there is you know, we started

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<v Speaker 1>out with like prisoners going back to work and and

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<v Speaker 1>now or military veterans, but now it's it's really we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get develop it for all women just because

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<v Speaker 1>not everyone knows how to dress and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>access to, you know, help, like like you and I

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<v Speaker 1>might and it just really holds you back. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel good and confident, then you're able to achieve more.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's it's kind of all in line

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<v Speaker 1>with the same message. That's incredible. Have you are you

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<v Speaker 1>working with some of the women you're healthy with this

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<v Speaker 1>feah and what is that like to see the uh

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<v Speaker 1>really change their whole outlook, say, their energy completely shifts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it feels so good and yeah, it's really emotion

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<v Speaker 1>and all to see. You know, a mother of four

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<v Speaker 1>is just trying to reenter the workforce. Who just how

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<v Speaker 1>how do you? You can't do everything? How are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to? Also? You know, with a lot, with a

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<v Speaker 1>low income job and kids and your you need help.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, most people need help, and so just having

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<v Speaker 1>someone hands you the tools you understand. Okay, So if

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<v Speaker 1>I wear this kind of scoop neck is good on me?

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<v Speaker 1>And then if I just a cardian you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it can be from the Salvation Army, who we partnered

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<v Speaker 1>with for these events. You know, it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be some fancy designer and you can go into H

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<v Speaker 1>and M and get like a ten dollar card again

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<v Speaker 1>and make a pencil score. You know. We just help

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<v Speaker 1>people dress for their for their comfort. What do they

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<v Speaker 1>say when they cry and they they're so excited and

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<v Speaker 1>they're proud to go home and show their kids and

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<v Speaker 1>go out and the energy just completely changes. You see

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<v Speaker 1>a transformation in these women. Time to take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with Amy Schumer right after this. And

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<v Speaker 1>now back to my conversation with the one and only

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Schumer. I want to talk about your activism regarding

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<v Speaker 1>sensible gun laws in a moment, and also of course

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<v Speaker 1>what's been happening in Hollywood and beyond. But first I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back a little bit, Amy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know you get probably tired of talking about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the same things. But I didn't know a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>your life story. I didn't realize that you grew up

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<v Speaker 1>here on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that your dad had been diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 1>MS when you were very young, when you were what

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<v Speaker 1>nine years old? Yeah, like nine or ten, and that

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<v Speaker 1>you had gone from kind of a well raged yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that suddenly you kind of had to make

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<v Speaker 1>this adjustment when your life changed. Your dad lost his business,

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<v Speaker 1>he had to declare bankruptcy from a really sort of space,

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<v Speaker 1>and then your folks got divorced. So I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you still see your dad and he still he has

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<v Speaker 1>a standing lesson right now, Yes he would. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting stem cells, so he's like they put him in

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<v Speaker 1>a contraption called the Standard and it's it helps him

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<v Speaker 1>like remember how to stand because he's been in wheelchairs

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<v Speaker 1>so long. Yeah. And and how do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>impacted your outlook on life? And do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>steered you toward comedy in a way. Yeah, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>worried about holding for sound hold for sound before Amy

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<v Speaker 1>talks about her wheelchair. Dad. Um, I think it. It

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<v Speaker 1>made me, like, you know, these humor is like a

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<v Speaker 1>defense mechanism and keep everybody laughing also and keep myself laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>And also just the reality of your parents are human

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<v Speaker 1>beings and they're not invincible, and they can get sick,

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<v Speaker 1>they can have affairs and make mistakes. I learned that

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<v Speaker 1>it too young of an age, and um, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think just the things I observed. I I'm a comic.

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<v Speaker 1>We are highly observational people, and I really took it

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<v Speaker 1>all in and kind of understood the way the world

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<v Speaker 1>worked with for women and sex and like how little

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<v Speaker 1>sort of power we had. And I think that's like

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<v Speaker 1>been the basis of a lot of my stand up

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<v Speaker 1>up to this point. It was watching your mom and dad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think like watching my mom and her dating and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing my dad and his he's you know, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a joke now when I stand up that you just

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<v Speaker 1>assume everyone in a wheelchairs nice, like we always like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of smile and pay attention to someone wheelchair. But

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<v Speaker 1>my dad is like a really like he's like a womanizer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's not the best part. I love him

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<v Speaker 1>and he loves me, but you know, the way he

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<v Speaker 1>was with women like really objectified them. And just like

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<v Speaker 1>witnessing that at such a young age, I wasn't faithful

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<v Speaker 1>to your mom. I assume no he I mean, who, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was. But that's like the least

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<v Speaker 1>of it, really yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, Um, he maintains

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<v Speaker 1>that he was, but I seriously doubt that. But they

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<v Speaker 1>both made huge mistakes and weren't completely faithful, and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like it was complicated. Oh I would say, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say it's complicate, but you know, But but then

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<v Speaker 1>also I feel bad saying that because there are people

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<v Speaker 1>who have had it so much worse, you know, So

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't feel like poor me. It's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>grateful that I had two parents that loved me and

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<v Speaker 1>we had a roof over our heads. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really strange change to go for being rich to

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<v Speaker 1>being pretty poor. But I wasn't getting hit, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>getting raped. Like, it's just people have it so much harder.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, having said that, it wasn't ideal. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not ideal. It was crazy. And you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of used humor. I mean, were you always funny? Amy?

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<v Speaker 1>When did you realize that, Hey, I'm funny? I was

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<v Speaker 1>always funny. I really like a kid. Did you come

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<v Speaker 1>out funny? Yes? I mean, you know, don't you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you knew your children pretty quickly? Like, like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think those personality traits that you see early do

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<v Speaker 1>they maintain that? I'm asking, Yeah, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm thinking I just know from my like my

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<v Speaker 1>friends who have kids and then my niece. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it was all there if because now we have all

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<v Speaker 1>these cell phone videos, we can look and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she was already the boss and kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>came out like stomping around, pumping her fist in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I don't know so, but yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>was always funny and I always loved making people laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you remember the first time you did stand up? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a tape of it. It's awful. Really, oh god, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's terrible my hair. Really, It's just like that was

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. It was a Gotham comedy club, the

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<v Speaker 1>old Gotham. Do you remember the worst joke you told? Yeah? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was about just what it's like to ride acrosstown

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<v Speaker 1>bus in Manhattan. And how I mean, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a good joke. I feel like, you know, inevitable. I

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<v Speaker 1>still want you things funny, but just how like when

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<v Speaker 1>you feel it like kind of like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>tires deflate, you know, if they need to let somebody on,

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<v Speaker 1>who's who's got something going on? And it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this woman, she has like the plastic bags

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<v Speaker 1>over the legs, you know, it's just it was just

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<v Speaker 1>about that and just how you know it's bad news

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<v Speaker 1>when you feel the front tire deflate. But clearly you've

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<v Speaker 1>got something from that experience, and the audience got something

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<v Speaker 1>from that experience. Yea, I didn't have to go over

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<v Speaker 1>stage fright, and they they respond to me, and just

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<v Speaker 1>the comics who are already making livings doing it where

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of took me side. They were like, you

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<v Speaker 1>could be good at this if you wanted to. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't good, but you know, they were like, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see if someone has the potential. I'm sure you you

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<v Speaker 1>see that, and people you're like, oh, this person is

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<v Speaker 1>going to achieve a lot. Yeah, they're still living in

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<v Speaker 1>a studio in a story right now, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>big things coming their way. And how do you how

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<v Speaker 1>do you perfect it? I mean, how do you then

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<v Speaker 1>take your craft and and and how do you sort

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<v Speaker 1>of work on it and have it evolved and find

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<v Speaker 1>sort of your sweet spot for the particular brand of

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<v Speaker 1>observational humor that you decided to do. I think just

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<v Speaker 1>by doing it, you know, isn't that how it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Also for for journalists, it's like you're you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>can give you advice, but you have to learn from

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>these mistakes that you make and and get braver from those,

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and um all the missteps and and then you know,

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.439
<v Speaker 1>you just build up your confidence and you you're open.

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<v Speaker 1>I was open to learning, and I was such a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of comedy. I feel really like humbled by it

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<v Speaker 1>and um, and just wanted to get really good and

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 1>understood there was nothing more than experience. I just had

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<v Speaker 1>to get as much stage time as was humanly possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did. I did it. You know, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to me that people initially had a hard time kind

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of uh, putting you in a box. Yeah, I don't know.

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I really feel for a lot of comics

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>who because people need to understand. You see a comic

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>get on stage, you go, what's your deal? Okay, you're

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.679
<v Speaker 1>you're a Jewish gay guy from the Bronx. Okay, we

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>understand that. So for me, I really kind of early

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 1>on was like I was, I made some jokes about sex,

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, actually, I don't know anybody

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 1>else doing this right now. I don't know any other

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 1>women that I've seen, and I'm I love female stand

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>ups and grew up with the biggest fan of them,

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 1>like didn't really start loving male comics until later, but

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no one, I haven't really heard anyone talk

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.919
<v Speaker 1>that much about this in a way that was super realistic.

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 1>And I mean there's so many great, great comics who

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>who would mention it. But I was like, I have

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 1>no problem talking about this. And I also, you know,

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>in retrospect, think it was me trying to feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more control over my sexuality and and asserting

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>myself by sort of taking the air out of what

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the behaviors that we that we do by saying sort

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>of by with shock value a little bit. For sure,

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>at first it was shock value, I mean you, And

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just because I'm doing all these open mics where

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>the comics are just waiting to go up. You have

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to surprise them into laughing. You can't just get a

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>laugh from a joke being well crafted. It's got to

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>be And so that's how I sort of made a

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>name for myself just on the in the New York scene,

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and I just figured like, Okay, they're going to call

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>me like the sex comic, and that's how I'll sort

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>of lean into that and market myself that way. My

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:26.439
<v Speaker 1>first special was called mostly sex stuff. And I've always

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 1>felt like I was sort of if I did the work,

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>that I had the potential to do great things, and

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that just seemed like a stepping stone to it. I

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, I won't always be this, I won't always

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be known for this, but this is what I think

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I should do to get to the next step, whatever

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>it is. And why do you think? What do you think?

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>There's so many talented people out there, but obviously you

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>struck a nerve and there was something about you the

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>whole package, right, that people just gravitated towards. Well, I'm

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.880
<v Speaker 1>sorry to ask you the same thing, but I mean,

0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 1>really it's like, I don't know. I think it's just

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it's opportunity meeting preparation. But I also think

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it was you were someone and you know, whether we

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>like the R word or not, but you were so

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>relatable because that word, I think that people felt like

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you could be their friend. You know, you were talking

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>about things that bothered them. You were completely raw, authentic,

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, honestly, you look normal, thank you know,

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and you just you just seem fun and nice and normal,

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think people don't see images like that female

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>images like that nearly enough. Well, it's like this movie

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that's coming out, it's like and when they were trying

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to figure out who was going to play Barbie, it's like, Okay,

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to be someone like relatable. And as far

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>as actresses go, the ones that are, um, you know,

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 1>in charge of sort of the box office of a movie,

0:26:55.600 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>it goes like Rebel Wilson and Melissa McCarthy and then

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>but you know, body type wise, it goes to like

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Emma Stone, like there aren't really there's nobody really floating

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 1>around the middle right now. I feel like I'm it

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:15.360
<v Speaker 1>right now, and I'm probably forgetting someone and I'll get

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>some email like what about me? I have saddlebags too,

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>But um but isn't that straight? You know? And and

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people will think I'm like actually one

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>of the stage hands on Meteor Shower. We've been rehearsing

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>for like a couple of days that he came up.

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, my wife and I are such huge fans,

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and uh, It's like thank you. And then we're talking

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and then I realized during the conversation that he fully

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>thinks that I'm Melissa McCarthy and I just kind of

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>was like I know why. He was like, you know,

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>did you just see at the Emmy's that Sean Spicer

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>was there? And then they showed you and I was

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>like oh. And then he was like how long were

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>you on SNL? And Melissa has never been a been

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 1>a you know, a regular and SNL. So I'm like,

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>not only does he not know who I am, but

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>he also does not know that Melissa has never been

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>a cast member in US. And but um, he's really sweet, smitty,

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I love you. Uh and he was so like mortified

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>just that he had my identity wrong his wife. He

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 1>got home and his wife was like, what did he

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>brought me a bottle of wine? I was like, hey,

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm flattered. She's hilarious. But you know it's like you

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>just Megan Train or just anybody who looks at all similar,

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>They just see like sort of a blonde plumpness and

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>they say they think we're all like one person. Um,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, Lena Making Girls really inspired me, and you

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>know the show Insecure, and there's just I got in

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>some um I got some heat for saying that it

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>bothered me. The Chloe Kardashian lost all that weight because

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I felt like she was like the relatable when she

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>already looked very thin to me before this transformation, not

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the pregnancy, but you know, and it was like that,

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, do whatever you want, feel healthy, feel great.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>But just as you know people we all like look

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.479
<v Speaker 1>and judge celebrities, it was like, oh, like, come on,

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you were one of us, and and so I, um,

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of like Howard Stern once asked me, like,

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>why don't you lose like thirty pounds? And I was like,

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to, I'll be hungry. And I I

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>lost some way for train Wreck, and I was like, like,

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>beauty and body, that's not my thing, that's not my currency.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel beautiful and I feel strong and and sexy,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>but but that's not like I'm not going to be

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the most beautiful girl. So I'm not going to try

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>to market myself or get myself there. And I don't

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>think that sends a good message. I think being like

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's what I feel pretty is all about. It's

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>just like, how about like not striving for some other

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>version of yourself? Like why not love what you've got

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>going on right now rather than this you know, eternal dissatisfaction.

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I love that because I think, you know, you are

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>addressing the insecurities that I think, certainly I have had

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>my whole life feeling never been enough, right, which is

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody else? Please? No, I know, I know, but but

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I think we're so programmed that if you're not, you know,

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty pounds underweight, so you don't look uh, you know,

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>having a magazine or whatever. And it's just so unrealistic.

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>And when I see the clavicles, you know, that could

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>cut an apple on the oscars and everyone on every

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>one of those women, I think, gosh, no, wonder if

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>we've been so it's like Pavlothian. So if you see

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>someone normal, you go from they look good too, they

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>look fat, and they're just normal exactly. Yeah. But I

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>change that by doing it. You know, like in this movie,

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I have a scene where my I'm it's PG. Thirteen

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>but I'm naked you can see from the back, and

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>then also seene where I dance my shirt off, and

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm not letting them retouch anything, you know,

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, don't touch it. This is you know that

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that's against the point, and I just I feel excited

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>about that and I feel like these changes are happening.

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>You have a very funny skit about that on your

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>show where or in your stand up where you say

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>when you pose naked, you talk about where you said.

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>The last thing you want people to say when they

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>see a naked photo of you is wow, she's so brave.

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>You're like, what you know? But whatever? But I could

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I understand it. But and it's also you know, I

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>love watching all ty, I love Bachelor, and I love

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>reality shows and all these real housewives, they all the Bachelor.

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what what would happen if they had

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>like an actual, like a girl who looked like somebody

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you were friends with and not like these like little

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>tiny bodies. And even though those girls are beautiful, and

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>again I don't want to thin shame anybody either, but

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like the the example that that young women are seeing,

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>like what are they what are they witnessing that they

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>see The Kardashians, who I think have actually done a

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of especially Kim got involved with with um sensible

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>gun laws, which is really cool. And I think that

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that they're cool, they're sisters and they can be funny um,

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but their role models are all these shows. It's like

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>basketball wives. It's like just people get TV shows because

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>they like had a kid with a hip hop artist

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>or something. This isn't like what we want young women

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to be aspiring too. So, um, I don't remember what

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I think you're talking about sort of the

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>role models out there, and that we're talking about how

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you change it and how you change it is. Oh yeah,

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>it's opportunities to write and to see, you know, women

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>whose bodies look a little more realistic for for like

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>actual life, who don't because most people can't afford a

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>chef and a trainer and to be starving and have

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody like bring over your like little pile of seeds

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>that you're allowed to eat in the morning. And I

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and I can afford those things. But I'm like, I'm

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>not doing that. I don't want to, like because those

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>people aren't happy either. I have some friends who are like,

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hang out today, I won't be

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>able to enjoy it. I'm I'm I have to be

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>hungry today. And that's like totally typical for really a

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of actresses. And it's like still, let's come on enough.

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>But it's funny I go to the words shows and

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I try to look my best, and I look like,

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, how the costume designers look, and I feel

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>proud about that. That's good. Well, let's talk about what's

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>happening in Hollywood since uh, you know, obviously there's this

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>seismic shift for women, and it's been all women fascinating

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to watch and exhilarating and also kind of mind blowing

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>on many levels. And and I'm curious when this started

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to spill out and these stories started to come out

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and women started standing up and speaking out, what did

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you think? I thought. I'm hearing a lot of these

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>stories of the survivors of these incidents, and I'm and

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like horrible for them and really proud of

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>them for coming forward, and also like that none of

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 1>that happened to me. I think the stuff that's happened

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to all of us, especially with the kind of the

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:19.919
<v Speaker 1>newer accusations about just coercion, you know, where people are like, oh,

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a gray area. And but I love Samantha Bee's

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>piece on that. She she just did this monologue about it.

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Everything doesn't have to be rape, you know, It's not

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>like raper, It's fine, it's I think a lot of

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>us have gotten so used to that behavior of of

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 1>a guy being like come on, like at a younger age,

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>especially like in college. I feel like that was you know,

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a quarter of my hookups, like they see what they

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>can get out of you and please, you know, imagine

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know who wants to be with someone

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>who's not interested in being with them, but um, that

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like wearing you down and and or you know,

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>being an uncomfortable situation being like well I just I

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>got myself here, so now I have to have sex

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>with this guy or here. I think that's there's been

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a real sea change in especially younger women and consent

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and sort of how it's being framed in college. That's

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that's making them rethink and forcing older women to rethink

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of the dynamics that go on in an encounter, right,

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.320
<v Speaker 1>And so for me it's been kind of a little

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 1>bit of a of a mind shift to because I

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.919
<v Speaker 1>think consensual is consensual, but then of course, now we're

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about unequal power dynamics and how is it really

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>consensual when someone has so much sway over your and

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 1>your career and then they're sort of the consensual well,

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:53.720
<v Speaker 1>having nothing to do with professional relationships like the disease

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 1>on Sorry story, which I've been thinking a lot about

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and trying to understand kind of the dynamics there, because

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 1>that was very interesting to me. Younger women thought this

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>situation was wrong, and I think many older women thought,

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>why don't you get up and leave? Right? So where

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>do you come down on that whole thing. I'm in

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the middle where I'm saying, what a great thing that

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>there's this change with this generation. Who um, I think

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna learn from this and uh, you know, Samantha

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>b did that whole piece on like no, like, I

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone wants to see as these career ruined

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>or his life round or anything like that. But that's

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>where people's minds go. They go, is it does he

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:44.959
<v Speaker 1>deserve this? And it's it's really not about that, I think. Um.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's about expressing and showing women that that

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>behavior is not okay and that you not only can

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you leave, but you need to leave because then the

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>women who come after you, you're you're leaving a mark

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>for them too. So it's not just about your own encounter.

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>You have to also think about if you don't say

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 1>to somebody, this made me super uncomfortable and it's not okay,

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>which is a really uncomfortable thing. And sometimes you go

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>always a nice guy and I just want to leave.

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to make it uncomfortable. But if you

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>don't really lay your boundaries out, then you're you're leaving

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it open for the for the women to come after you.

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And so I think a lot of women are feel

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>really bad that they've been complicit with with things, but

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.919
<v Speaker 1>we didn't know not to be and I think now

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>there's kind of no excuse. And if you have a

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>doctor that makes you uncomfortable, or you get a massage,

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.280
<v Speaker 1>or you have a date with someone and they coerce

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>you in a situation like the azaz one um, I

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any sort of, you know, criminal charge,

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>but I think that it's good for this for everybody

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>to learn that that behavior is not acceptable. It's not

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>a crime, but it's not cool and it can still

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>really mess with a with a woman. So it's is

0:37:55.800 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>it the overall presumptuous nous of men who are in

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>that situation, Because I also want women to have agency

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and to stand up, But I also appreciate that it's difficult,

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's it must be confusing for men too. Well,

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>that's what I am thinking about right now. That's why

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to come up with a little

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>bit of a code of conduct for us as women,

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>because I think a lot of men are really confused

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 1>right now, you know, and are like, wait, this has

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>been cool for so long, and you know, are dynamic

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.959
<v Speaker 1>at the office or at the gym or whatever. It's

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 1>been like, you know, we we kind of flirt and

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>some people we've all done this. We we just flirt

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>back with them, so it's not uncomfortable, or maybe we

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 1>have some sort of an advantage, you know, Oh they

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>this guy's feelings for me. So I kind of pray

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on that and we've we've all been there, and and

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>we kind of can't do that anymore. And we need

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>to explain it to men and to other women that

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that we need to be teaching each other the kind

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>of behavior that's accept doble and so when something comes

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>up to say that makes me really uncomfortable or you know,

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>just what you're willing to accept and that those are

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the hard conversations. But we just can't keep we can't

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 1>let things continue the way that they've continued, because there's

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>so many different levels of it, something like what happened

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>with disease, which you know, and and he's been my friend,

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and I I really I feel for I feel for

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the woman um I identify with with all the women

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in these situations, I kind of my mind doesn't go right,

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>even if it's my friend, I don't go, oh, but

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>he's a good guy. I think, what would it feel

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>like to have been her? You know? And uh, well

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you were in some ways her because you've had a

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>situation that you talked about in your book. Oh oh yeah, No,

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've been flat out raped. But I mean,

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>but there are so many other kinds of sex. There's

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>so much much other sexual misconduct. I mean, we've we've

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>all every woman I know, every woman in this room,

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>we've all had these experiences that and I think in

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>some ways, this this current climate, it brings these things

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>up and you go, got none of that was okay,

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I'm someone new journals. I kept journals

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and I read back and I go, I just feel

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.439
<v Speaker 1>so bad for that girl. You know, why why didn't

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you get up and leaving? Sometimes you do and sometimes

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you just you just do it. Do you think that

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the conversation will? You know? Right now, it seems like

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a volcano erupting and and sort of this fury and

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>rage and frustration and it's kind of ickiness that has

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>been sort of bubbling beneath the surface is now kind

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of exploding. And women are talking about this, and men,

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I think are are not part of the conversation right now, Um,

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>what do you how do you see this, this movement

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>of evolving? I think, Um, a lot of men are

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>anxious to be part of the movement because they want

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to help and they're good people, and you know, and

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I think they also want to understand uh maybe what

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>they behavior that they felt comfortable and why why it

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't okay right? And it's up to us to teach them.

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>And I do mean women, I think, and I think

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>they're open to it. People. You know a lot of

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the men in my life are are open at self

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 1>reflection and evolving and and I am, And so how

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>can we be better at teaching them? And you know, um,

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 1>it's there's some behavior where you go that's just clearly

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>insanely wrong and you should just be in jail. Uh, like,

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:37.879
<v Speaker 1>oh gosh, I'm just I'm so proud of all those

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>gymnasts who stood up to and how about how great

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>was that judge who went, I'm signing your death sense

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 1>And these women are not victims, their survivors, and yeah,

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of up to us to teach them

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>right now so that things can be different for the

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>next generation. I think we'll see some movement, you know,

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>like I get to spend a bunch of time with

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Glorious Steinham and this is a really exciting time for her,

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and they had to fight to get their own magazine

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and people weren't listening that we have the Internet, we

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>have like a real voice, and people are really paying attention,

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and and it's just so across all industries. It's like

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and most of the women times up, like you know,

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 1>we're like, Okay, let's let's take care of our house first,

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>which I think Shanda Ryan said at a meeting. Um,

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, there's so many levels under sort of

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>what our houses. It's like the stunt women, the crew women.

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.399
<v Speaker 1>But but it's set up so that women in all

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>industries and in these low paying jobs, women work at

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>hotels and farm workers and people working, you know, in

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the service industry. It's it's rampant, it's it's really frightening.

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 1>And um, I think I think there's like this big

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 1>change happening and and and I don't think it will

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>burn out because the people everyone's really fired up about

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>just giving their time and energy because it's just so

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>important and essential. Do you think this would have happened

0:42:53.800 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 1>if Donald Trump hadn't been elected? No? No, I don't so,

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm a Hillary girl myself. But but if

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>we want to find any sort of silver lining, if

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't bragged about grabbing pussies, we probably wouldn't be

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>protecting ours so much right now. You have been involved

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 1>in this even before this movement happened, because you've spoken

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>out about pay in equity. When you got your Netflix

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>special and found out Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock we're

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 1>making a certain salary that was really almost twice as

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>much as yours. You said, exqueeze me. Yeah, well again,

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't I wasn't like trying to go viral with

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>news for that, and that news didn't kind of break

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>till later on. I um, I I thought those guys

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>are absolute legends. There are two of my best friends also,

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and they deserve every penny they got paid for that

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>those specials, and you know, um, and I'm really proud

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>of them. And also I don't I don't think with

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>where I am sort of in the zeitgeist right now,

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:13.240
<v Speaker 1>that I deserve half of what they're getting. I think

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask for more. And I asked by myself.

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't pay anybody any commission on the the extra

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>money I received, and um, you know, and there was

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>so much I have these uh, and I'm sure you

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>probably do too, just with working on gun laws and

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.840
<v Speaker 1>with the nature of my stand up I I have

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>like organized trolls who go against me and they get

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>my movies voted down on Rotten Tomatoes and all this stuff.

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>And with the special Yeah, what a treat. But I'm

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 1>just like, I really truly don't care. Um. First, I'm

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>sure it was pretty unkner, of course, and then you

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>learn like, yeah, you're like, oh god, you're you're so afraid.

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like I'm just gonna keep doing my

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 1>thing and they're doing their thing, and you know, uh.

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>But so there was so much controversy with this, with

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 1>this special and people really looking to hate on it,

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm really I'm really very proud of it. And

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I got nominated for I directed it, so I got

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>nominated for directing it. I'm up against the Oscars, so

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'll beat the Oscars. But um but

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, it's not that cute and when

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>it comes out in the news, oh, that wasn't enough

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>money for you, you should be grateful. I just thought,

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.280
<v Speaker 1>that's not the message that we need to be sending

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>right now. It's not about that. It's not you know,

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I my last season and my TV show I was

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I felt like kind of underpaid the whole time. And

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>then so you went to Comedy Central too, Yeah, and

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, I know that these guys with

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>similar shows to me are getting more money than me.

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And so finally when they gave me more money, I

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 1>donated it to the crew who had been working with

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>me the whole time, just to be it's not about that.

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, shore money is awesome and and I love

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>fun and drinking nice wine, but um but I donate

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 1>so much, and it really for me was just about like,

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not being it's not fair, like I had a

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>book deal back in the day and I was like, no,

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I I think, I bet it will be

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>worth ten times more than this, and I backed out.

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wanted me to. And you know, you've got to

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>like stand your ground. And that's why I really want

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>to support just women in any job fighting for equal pay,

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and I it's it can be really hard. I know

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>it's different different industries. It's easier said than done. But

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 1>if I can support, um, yeah, I want to and

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to send that message. But it's so so

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 1>typical because if as a woman, if you do make demands,

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>if you do ask for equality, you're automatically seen as difficult, bitchy,

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>You're vilified, right, And I think that's because of how

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>we've been conditioned to act. And I think that, I think,

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>but I think I do think women. One of the

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 1>great I think UM aspects of this movement is I

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>think we're going to equip women with hopefully the confidence

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and the power to make demands and to not typecast

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>them when they do. Right. But I think our our

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 1>society really and I think probably that's why you got

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>so much pushback. A man would first, first of all,

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a man wouldn't have had to do that. But secondly,

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>if he had, everyone would have been like, yeah, right,

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I got your money's son. Yeah. But for me, it's

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 1>like I anticipated that and it didn't come out until like,

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, a month after it came out or something

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>after the special came out. I think, and uh, I'm

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.720
<v Speaker 1>proud of my business sense. And I think another message

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 1>that we want to send is that there's power in numbers.

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>And so that's why, you know, I I spoke to

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 1>uh I never. I don't even know cats Adler, you know,

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>like I probably spoked to herd a carpet or something once,

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>but she was a correspondent to E and uh and

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.839
<v Speaker 1>I just heard about her not getting offered equal pay

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and it was like, well, let's let's stand up for

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:13.799
<v Speaker 1>this woman, in fight for her. Let's stand up for

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:15.399
<v Speaker 1>each other, you know. And right now it's like within

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>our business, but we're we're joining forces with all these

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>other industries so that it's you know, it's it's a

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>global thing. There's they want to start at times up Kenya.

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>It's exciting, it's awesome. But you know, Amy, I I

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>through the years, you have gotten I think because you

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 1>are comfortable in your own skin and who you are.

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But how do you handle it when people attack you relentlessly?

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:45.439
<v Speaker 1>And I mean I think everyone probably is attacked relentlessly

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>these days with social Yeah, it with so much vitriol,

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>whether it's about you know anything, yeah, soup to nuts,

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:59.959
<v Speaker 1>it could be about money or right, or it could

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.719
<v Speaker 1>be about your position on on gun laws. I mean,

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>so that's that can be very debilitating, demoralizing and psychically depleting,

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I think, And and so how do you how do

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:16.319
<v Speaker 1>you handle it? I just early on, like I you know,

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I did the roast of Charlie Sheen and after one

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of my jokes, got a lot of pushback, and um

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and I knew then and I know now that it's

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:29.120
<v Speaker 1>not it's not actually personal. I think. I think success

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:32.439
<v Speaker 1>really annoys people. And when somebody's making money and they're

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 1>doing well, you can't help it. You just want them

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>to fail. And I don't blame anyone for that. What

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 1>is it about? We're all like to call it the

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>tall poppy syndrome in Australia, right, nobody is allowed to

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 1>get famous there. Um well, when they do, they just

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:50.319
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to chop you down. Right, So I think

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 1>it's that, Um, that's just sort of resenting instead of

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:55.879
<v Speaker 1>putting energy towards working on yourself. I think it's really

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>easy to just vilify somebody else. And so that doesn't

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>feel personal to me any any feelings like that. That's

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>more about the person who has those feelings than it

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>is about me. And and these controversies that have come up,

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I've had many, like people are waiting

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to tear you down and burn you at the steak

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 1>when you're in this position, and some of them I've

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I've really learned from, and I still have so much

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I need to learn. And uh, I just I really

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 1>don't take it personally, and it never makes me feel

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>like I'm a bad person, you know if I always

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.919
<v Speaker 1>feel that way? Or did you learn to not take

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 1>it personally? No, I I learned. I learned early on.

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I learned like ten years ago, and so since that,

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it feels bad when it's like affecting work, you know,

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:42.239
<v Speaker 1>like if I'm getting picketed or something like, it's it's like,

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>oh God, this is going to push us back an

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.879
<v Speaker 1>hour or something like that. But um, it doesn't hurt

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:52.280
<v Speaker 1>my feelings anymore. It hasn't for like ten years. Um,

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:55.240
<v Speaker 1>did you read it? Like, if there's like a big

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>thing going on, I'll like check it out. But it

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:02.280
<v Speaker 1>makes me laugh, Like, I don't know, Yeah, I really

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like I know who I am, and I love

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>my friends and family and like the people I'm close to,

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm respected by the comedians that I love and respect,

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and I just I feel really fortunate. And if I

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>let myself get brought down by these you know, like

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>controversies that I know, don't don't actually like that what

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 1>my intentions were were, you know, if I hurt someone,

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel I would feel horrible, you know. But um,

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:31.879
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like, and I think there's a lot

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:36.319
<v Speaker 1>of when it comes to race, Like I now on

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:40.400
<v Speaker 1>my projects have an inclusion writer, so there has to

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:43.160
<v Speaker 1>be a certain number of a number of people people

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 1>of color, or people with disabilities or something, you know,

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>filling these roles. That that's like and this is a

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 1>big part of times up where we're all encouraging people

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to do this now, um, so that the cast is

0:51:56.120 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 1>like more reflective of the actual population. And um, and

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been like accused of being racist over the years,

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and and I'm just I just am so not but

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I I also recognize there's room to grow, and I

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>just want to do my best to empower women and

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:19.760
<v Speaker 1>people of color and and I but I also understand

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's got to be really annoying, Like I

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 1>could see myself getting vilified in you know, different communities

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. But my intentions are just so to

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 1>truly include everyone. And so do you ever worry that

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:38.400
<v Speaker 1>this heightened sensitivity and this kind of greater consciousness about

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>not offending people has that the pendulum perhaps has swung

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 1>too far and that you feel like you're walking on

0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 1>eggshells and someone's going to be upset if you make

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.879
<v Speaker 1>a joke about this or that, or do you think

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing or are you again somewhere in

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the middle. No, I do think it's a good thing.

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, jokes that I made ten years ago, I

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't dream of making now. And um, that was just

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of right for me at the time. And culturally

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 1>things were different, and you know, like guys were telling

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of rape jokes. I had some jokes

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 1>about rape, and that's just that that just is so

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 1>unacceptable now, and um, and just I feel more of

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 1>a responsibility because my voice is heard more now, So

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I I want to do a good job of of

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>not hurting anyone's feelings and just you know, sort of

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>moving the needle in the right way. So I don't

0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's a bad thing, this oversensitivity. And they'll still

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:36.359
<v Speaker 1>be comics that don't you know, care, and they'll just

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>say whatever they want if you want that, But I'm

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>not interested in doing that personally. I don't feel held back.

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:45.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel you know, there's some things like that's

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 1>just for your friends, and we can always just joke

0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 1>with our friends. I'm friends with like the dirtiest comedians alive,

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and we say horrible stuff to each other that if

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we get got out, we'd be toast. You know that

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody has those conversations with their friends and family. But

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:01.879
<v Speaker 1>what I am willing to stay on stage, it's it's

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:04.839
<v Speaker 1>and it's not like a self preservation thing. It's just

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not interested in it, and it just doesn't feel

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>like the right time. I wanted before we go talk

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to you about how you got involved in gun activism. You, um,

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember very well when that happened at that movie

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 1>theater where train Wreck was playing that was in Louisiana, Yeah, Lafaye, Louisiana.

0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:29.799
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, two young women were killed, a twenty one

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 1>year old woman and I believe a thirty three year

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>old woman. And I was thinking about them, you know,

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.839
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, these things happen, and I don't

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 1>know today, I was thinking about how quickly people forget

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>about tragedies and move on. I was thinking about their

0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:49.759
<v Speaker 1>families when I was getting ready to talk to you,

0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:54.919
<v Speaker 1>because I thought, who remembers that? Who remembers them? Me? Yeah,

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and their families. I think about them all the time.

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I kind of keep them with me and any like

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 1>accomplishments or anything. And I, yeah, I just always mentioned them.

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I dedicate every special to them now and just and

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, just to kind of keep them alive in

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 1>myself and and just in the ether. Um, is that

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>what set you off on this path to really try

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to do something about how many guns from this country?

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:29.319
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah, were you? Was that something that you

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 1>were passionate about before? Though not now. I really had

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 1>no information before then, and and I missed those days

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:45.160
<v Speaker 1>because it's just you know, it's really it's really upsetting. Um,

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the just how sort of lacks the gun laws aren't

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:53.480
<v Speaker 1>how how easy it is for somebody who's who's on

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, a no fly list or somebody who's mentally

0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 1>ill or has been convicted of being an abuser, Like

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:04.080
<v Speaker 1>it's still pretty easy to get a gun, and uh

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.799
<v Speaker 1>a yeah. And these shootings they're they're every new one.

0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:10.360
<v Speaker 1>They're like the news cycle just just yeah, there's a

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 1>new thing the next day. And you know, we we

0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>pushed and we get into Congress's face and we go

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 1>because so many politicians are getting money directly from the

0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>n r A, as you know, and uh yeah, and

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you are you are you discouraged? Um? I sometimes I

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 1>but then I look at the people who work at

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:40.239
<v Speaker 1>every Town for Gun Safety and you know, Julianne Moore

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and I are both on the board there, and and

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:44.280
<v Speaker 1>then just going out to these events and meeting people.

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I just before the Las Vegas shooting, a couple of

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.359
<v Speaker 1>months before, I had been in Vegas to meeting with

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>their chapter for every time, just listening to people's stories

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:56.439
<v Speaker 1>about how gun violence has affected them. They're just so

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking that you're just like, even if I move this,

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>just I can help move this just a little bit

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 1>in my lifetime. That'll be worth it. And I just,

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody just refuses to give up. And yeah,

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe it'll take a long time, but I think

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 1>they'll be like a real change. I do. I have

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:20.760
<v Speaker 1>to believe that. As we look ahead and knowing that

0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>you were a passionate Hillary Clinton supporter, how are you

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 1>surviving the era of Trump? I just feel so much

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 1>better than I think we all did a year ago.

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of my actually all my friends

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>were just like get a depression for a year. Those

0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>especially those first few days after the election, Like it was,

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>it was just like the most painful, like worst I

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>would you know, I would say it was second to

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to getting the news that Macy and Jillian had been killed.

0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 1>It was just and I just felt angry, and there's

0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 1>got to be a place for that, you know, for

0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>women to express anger. And yeah, we just needed a

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 1>little time to be for it to really mess us

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 1>up and realize how bad things still are in the world.

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, we got blessed with this Obama era, these

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:14.000
<v Speaker 1>great eight years we were given, and then just to

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:17.360
<v Speaker 1>be like an about face in the wrong direction in

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:21.720
<v Speaker 1>what feels like every single area to me, I just

0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 1>feel that he is a huge annoying setback and um,

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and that that's like a very you know, that's incredibly reductive.

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:32.920
<v Speaker 1>But and I don't think that anybody who is afraid

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 1>of deportation right now, like living in terror is um,

0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I would look at it that way. But but that's

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to keep it that way in my sights,

0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to keep myself encouraged that you know, we can all

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 1>really work together and make change. And um, women wanting

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to lead and women wanting to run for Congress, and

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing so much, so much changing just you know,

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 1>with politics, and and I believe we'll get the House

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>back this year, that's my hope. And and and in

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a way, he has been a a real catalyst, hasn't he.

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you mentioned a silver lining, But

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 1>it seems as if people have been you know, woken

0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 1>up from their complacency. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't. Yeah,

0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 1>just like I'm not mad at Internet rolls. I'm not

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:26.160
<v Speaker 1>even mad at Trump. He's just he's just like King Joffrey,

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:29.440
<v Speaker 1>like he's just been empowered by people who didn't I

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:31.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like they didn't understand, they didn't understand and I

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:35.440
<v Speaker 1>wrote like a really aggressive tweet or Instagram the day

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:38.680
<v Speaker 1>after he won. I was just furious with these people, like,

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 1>do you understand what you've done? You know, the people

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>who elected him, and I think a lot of them

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 1>have real regrets and it didn't understand and uh, but

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 1>do you have compassion for some of these voters who

0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:55.680
<v Speaker 1>felt like Hillary Clinton was not speaking to them? And

0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about it. I think that deplorable comment

0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:04.680
<v Speaker 1>was probably doably really damaging to her candidacy. Yeah, I

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 1>think it. I think it was too like there's all

1:00:06.680 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 1>these like, you know, we got we can read what happened,

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:14.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's um, it's you know, it just doesn't that

1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:21.000
<v Speaker 1>sound funny that he's now saying these shiphole countries and

1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you know he's paying he paid off a porn star

1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:28.240
<v Speaker 1>after Baron was born. Like it's just if you put

1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:31.480
<v Speaker 1>them on a chart next to each other, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's hilarious the things that she's been vilified for versus

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we're just not even paying attention to anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even on SNL that they had a game

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<v Speaker 1>show doesn't matter. Oh yeah, Jessica chast A hust She's

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<v Speaker 1>just such a great job. Yeah. Yeah, And it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't even keep up. It's not even interesting anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, When someone like did you hear what he

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said today, I'm just like, I don't. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>skip it? Like? Can I just can I set this

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<v Speaker 1>one out? Yeah? But all all you're feeling very optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>about the future and about the state of the country

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<v Speaker 1>just a year ago. I really am. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>are understanding that the change has to come from from them.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have it in you to run for office,

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<v Speaker 1>or to go to a meeting, or to start like

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<v Speaker 1>a chapter of something in your town where you can

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<v Speaker 1>try to help get the word out for people to vote. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Just people didn't know what they were capable of, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're feeling more empowered, and I think we

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<v Speaker 1>really are about to experience even more change for the better.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you'd ever run for office? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's got to be a sex tape of me out

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<v Speaker 1>there somewhere. Can you be in office if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a sex tape? Um? Yeah, I don't know. If I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that would be helpful and I would do a

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<v Speaker 1>good job. It's the same as like a role in

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. I just I don't want to do it

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<v Speaker 1>if there's someone out there who could do it better

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<v Speaker 1>than me. But if I ever felt like I could

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<v Speaker 1>do a good job and be helpful, I would. Because

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Schumer, of course, is your second cousin. They used

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<v Speaker 1>to say the most dangerous place to be on Capitol

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<v Speaker 1>Hill was between Chuck Schumer and a camera. Oh that's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not afraid of the spotlight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really proud of him. And I know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what what's been happening lately, it's like it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>was that a miscalculation in your view of what the

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<v Speaker 1>shutdown and the DHAKA and sort of the Democrats position

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<v Speaker 1>on that, Um, I a miscalculation, like yeah, well some

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<v Speaker 1>people think it's really hurt the Democrats, right, I don't know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You know, I'm watching the news like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else, and I'm reading like what Chuck's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>press releases are about it, And you know, I know him,

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<v Speaker 1>I love him. I believe he's the greatest intentions, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe he has a plan. And I hope Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>McConnell wasn't lying. I'm hoping the same things that everybody's hoping.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone you like for twenty Yeah, well we found out

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<v Speaker 1>Oprah is not interested. So how about Shonda Rhymes. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>vote for her. I love talking to you, Amy Schumer,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming here microphone anytime. We can talk and

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<v Speaker 1>talk real shit. We can really talk it. You can

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of jokes about me. You can even

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<v Speaker 1>talk about anal sex. But don't say that. You said

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<v Speaker 1>you love humor. Yes, I'll never say that again. Thank you.

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