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Speaker 1: Hi everyone. Today, I am reporting to you from my

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Speaker 1: why on earth is that? Well, it's because I just

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Speaker 1: stepped out of Amy Schumer's apartment, which sounds like the

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Speaker 1: name of a new TV show, Amy Schumer's Apartment, and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you all about our conversation while

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Speaker 1: it's still fresh in my mind. Amy Schumer, the comedian, actress,

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Speaker 1: writer and now Broadway star, is the latest lady in

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Speaker 1: our Wonder Women's series. It was just us gals in

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Speaker 1: her apartment. Yes, I'm pretty excited about that for our chat.

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Speaker 1: But as you heard, Brian already barged into the ads,

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Speaker 1: and don't worry, Brian will be back again during the

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Speaker 1: break and credits as well, and of course for next

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Speaker 1: week's episode two. As for my interview with Amy, we

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Speaker 1: had a lot to cover. She's been so productive since

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Speaker 1: bursting onto the national stage back in two thousand seven

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Speaker 1: when she was a contestant Believe It or Not on

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Speaker 1: Amy made her mark in stand Up with her signature

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Speaker 1: brand of taboo busting and unapologetically raunchy comedy, and to

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Speaker 1: called Mostly Sex Stuff. Now more recently, she's also flexed

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Speaker 1: her skills and acting, producing and writing. Of course, I

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Speaker 1: love train Wreck, you probably did too. She started movies

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Speaker 1: by Steve Martin called Meteor Shower. Fair warning, Amy is

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Speaker 1: known for being a little bit body and to kick

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Speaker 1: things off, I decided to clear the air and revisit

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Speaker 1: the time that Amy full On pranked me. Now it's

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Speaker 1: probably a bit r rated, so you may not want

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Speaker 1: to listen to this episode with the kids, actually, if

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Speaker 1: you haven't had the talk yet, or maybe even if

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Speaker 1: you have. We have so much to talk about. But first,

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Speaker 1: I think Amy, we should give people a little bit

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Speaker 1: of the backstory of our last history, because you have

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Speaker 1: utilized me and some of your were such a great

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Speaker 1: sport and like I just I mean, I'm such a

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Speaker 1: fan of yours anyway, and I'm very grateful to your work. Um,

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Speaker 1: a great sport. It was tell the story. Okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: tell the story. It was that it was after the

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Speaker 1: Mindy Kaling and we were next to each other and

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Speaker 1: up in the morning saying, oh my god, Amy Schumer

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Speaker 1: upset that you didn't include what John wrote back to me,

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see. What he texted back was again,

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Speaker 1: thought it was really funny. So you you've also used

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Speaker 1: But I was like, I would never say I love humor.

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Speaker 1: not a problem for me. But reading like a billboard

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Speaker 1: set list for like a year, it'said Katie kirk as

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Speaker 1: doing a little bit of everything. So you're doing some

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Speaker 1: editing it. You're editing it. You did uh the Great

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Speaker 1: over the legs, you know, it's just it was just

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00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: about that and just how you know it's bad news

427
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 1: when you feel the front tire deflate. But clearly you've

428
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: got something from that experience, and the audience got something

429
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: from that experience. Yea, I didn't have to go over

430
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 1: stage fright, and they they respond to me, and just

431
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 1: the comics who are already making livings doing it where

432
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: they kind of took me side. They were like, you

433
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: could be good at this if you wanted to. I

434
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: wasn't good, but you know, they were like, you can

435
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: see if someone has the potential. I'm sure you you

436
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: see that, and people you're like, oh, this person is

437
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: going to achieve a lot. Yeah, they're still living in

438
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: a studio in a story right now, but they have

439
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 1: big things coming their way. And how do you how

440
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: do you perfect it? I mean, how do you then

441
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: take your craft and and and how do you sort

442
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: of work on it and have it evolved and find

443
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: sort of your sweet spot for the particular brand of

444
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: observational humor that you decided to do. I think just

445
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: by doing it, you know, isn't that how it is?

446
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: Also for for journalists, it's like you're you know, people

447
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: can give you advice, but you have to learn from

448
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: these mistakes that you make and and get braver from those,

449
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: and um all the missteps and and then you know,

450
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: you just build up your confidence and you you're open.

451
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: I was open to learning, and I was such a

452
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: fan of comedy. I feel really like humbled by it

453
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: and um, and just wanted to get really good and

454
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: understood there was nothing more than experience. I just had

455
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: to get as much stage time as was humanly possible,

456
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: and I did. I did it. You know, it seems

457
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: to me that people initially had a hard time kind

458
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: of uh, putting you in a box. Yeah, I don't know.

459
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: I think I really feel for a lot of comics

460
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: who because people need to understand. You see a comic

461
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: get on stage, you go, what's your deal? Okay, you're

462
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: you're a Jewish gay guy from the Bronx. Okay, we

463
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: understand that. So for me, I really kind of early

464
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: on was like I was, I made some jokes about sex,

465
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, actually, I don't know anybody

466
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: else doing this right now. I don't know any other

467
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: women that I've seen, and I'm I love female stand

468
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: ups and grew up with the biggest fan of them,

469
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: like didn't really start loving male comics until later, but

470
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: was like, no one, I haven't really heard anyone talk

471
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: that much about this in a way that was super realistic.

472
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: And I mean there's so many great, great comics who

473
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: who would mention it. But I was like, I have

474
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: no problem talking about this. And I also, you know,

475
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: in retrospect, think it was me trying to feel a

476
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: little bit more control over my sexuality and and asserting

477
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: myself by sort of taking the air out of what

478
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: the behaviors that we that we do by saying sort

479
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: of by with shock value a little bit. For sure,

480
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: at first it was shock value, I mean you, And

481
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: it's just because I'm doing all these open mics where

482
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: the comics are just waiting to go up. You have

483
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: to surprise them into laughing. You can't just get a

484
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: laugh from a joke being well crafted. It's got to

485
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: be And so that's how I sort of made a

486
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: name for myself just on the in the New York scene,

487
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: and I just figured like, Okay, they're going to call

488
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: me like the sex comic, and that's how I'll sort

489
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: of lean into that and market myself that way. My

490
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: first special was called mostly sex stuff. And I've always

491
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: felt like I was sort of if I did the work,

492
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: that I had the potential to do great things, and

493
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: that just seemed like a stepping stone to it. I

494
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: was like, I won't always be this, I won't always

495
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: be known for this, but this is what I think

496
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: I should do to get to the next step, whatever

497
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: it is. And why do you think? What do you think?

498
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: There's so many talented people out there, but obviously you

499
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: struck a nerve and there was something about you the

500
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: whole package, right, that people just gravitated towards. Well, I'm

501
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: sorry to ask you the same thing, but I mean,

502
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: really it's like, I don't know. I think it's just

503
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: I think it's opportunity meeting preparation. But I also think

504
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: it was you were someone and you know, whether we

505
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: like the R word or not, but you were so

506
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: relatable because that word, I think that people felt like

507
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: you could be their friend. You know, you were talking

508
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: about things that bothered them. You were completely raw, authentic,

509
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: and you know, honestly, you look normal, thank you know,

510
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: and you just you just seem fun and nice and normal,

511
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: and I think people don't see images like that female

512
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: images like that nearly enough. Well, it's like this movie

513
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: that's coming out, it's like and when they were trying

514
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: to figure out who was going to play Barbie, it's like, Okay,

515
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: we wanted to be someone like relatable. And as far

516
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: as actresses go, the ones that are, um, you know,

517
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: in charge of sort of the box office of a movie,

518
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: it goes like Rebel Wilson and Melissa McCarthy and then

519
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: but you know, body type wise, it goes to like

520
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: Emma Stone, like there aren't really there's nobody really floating

521
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: around the middle right now. I feel like I'm it

522
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm probably forgetting someone and I'll get

523
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: some email like what about me? I have saddlebags too,

524
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: But um but isn't that straight? You know? And and

525
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people will think I'm like actually one

526
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: of the stage hands on Meteor Shower. We've been rehearsing

527
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: for like a couple of days that he came up.

528
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: He's like, my wife and I are such huge fans,

529
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 1: and uh, It's like thank you. And then we're talking

530
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: and then I realized during the conversation that he fully

531
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: thinks that I'm Melissa McCarthy and I just kind of

532
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: was like I know why. He was like, you know,

533
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: did you just see at the Emmy's that Sean Spicer

534
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: was there? And then they showed you and I was

535
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: like oh. And then he was like how long were

536
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: you on SNL? And Melissa has never been a been

537
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: a you know, a regular and SNL. So I'm like,

538
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: not only does he not know who I am, but

539
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: he also does not know that Melissa has never been

540
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: a cast member in US. And but um, he's really sweet, smitty,

541
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: I love you. Uh and he was so like mortified

542
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: just that he had my identity wrong his wife. He

543
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: got home and his wife was like, what did he

544
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: brought me a bottle of wine? I was like, hey,

545
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm flattered. She's hilarious. But you know it's like you

546
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: just Megan Train or just anybody who looks at all similar,

547
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: They just see like sort of a blonde plumpness and

548
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: they say they think we're all like one person. Um,

549
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, Lena Making Girls really inspired me, and you

550
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: know the show Insecure, and there's just I got in

551
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: some um I got some heat for saying that it

552
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: bothered me. The Chloe Kardashian lost all that weight because

553
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: I felt like she was like the relatable when she

554
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: already looked very thin to me before this transformation, not

555
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: the pregnancy, but you know, and it was like that,

556
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, do whatever you want, feel healthy, feel great.

557
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: But just as you know people we all like look

558
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: and judge celebrities, it was like, oh, like, come on,

559
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: you were one of us, and and so I, um,

560
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: I just kind of like Howard Stern once asked me, like,

561
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: why don't you lose like thirty pounds? And I was like,

562
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to, I'll be hungry. And I I

563
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: lost some way for train Wreck, and I was like, like,

564
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: beauty and body, that's not my thing, that's not my currency.

565
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: I feel beautiful and I feel strong and and sexy,

566
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: but but that's not like I'm not going to be

567
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: the most beautiful girl. So I'm not going to try

568
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: to market myself or get myself there. And I don't

569
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: think that sends a good message. I think being like

570
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: and that's what I feel pretty is all about. It's

571
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: just like, how about like not striving for some other

572
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: version of yourself? Like why not love what you've got

573
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: going on right now rather than this you know, eternal dissatisfaction.

574
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: I love that because I think, you know, you are

575
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: addressing the insecurities that I think, certainly I have had

576
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: my whole life feeling never been enough, right, which is

577
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: somebody else? Please? No, I know, I know, but but

578
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: I think we're so programmed that if you're not, you know,

579
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: twenty pounds underweight, so you don't look uh, you know,

580
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: having a magazine or whatever. And it's just so unrealistic.

581
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: And when I see the clavicles, you know, that could

582
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: cut an apple on the oscars and everyone on every

583
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: one of those women, I think, gosh, no, wonder if

584
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: we've been so it's like Pavlothian. So if you see

585
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: someone normal, you go from they look good too, they

586
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: look fat, and they're just normal exactly. Yeah. But I

587
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: change that by doing it. You know, like in this movie,

588
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: I have a scene where my I'm it's PG. Thirteen

589
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: but I'm naked you can see from the back, and

590
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: then also seene where I dance my shirt off, and

591
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: it's like I'm not letting them retouch anything, you know,

592
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't touch it. This is you know that

593
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: that's against the point, and I just I feel excited

594
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: about that and I feel like these changes are happening.

595
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: You have a very funny skit about that on your

596
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: show where or in your stand up where you say

597
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: when you pose naked, you talk about where you said.

598
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: The last thing you want people to say when they

599
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: see a naked photo of you is wow, she's so brave.

600
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: You're like, what you know? But whatever? But I could

601
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: I understand it. But and it's also you know, I

602
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: love watching all ty, I love Bachelor, and I love

603
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: reality shows and all these real housewives, they all the Bachelor.

604
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: I was like, what what would happen if they had

605
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: like an actual, like a girl who looked like somebody

606
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: you were friends with and not like these like little

607
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: tiny bodies. And even though those girls are beautiful, and

608
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: again I don't want to thin shame anybody either, but

609
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: it's like the the example that that young women are seeing,

610
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: like what are they what are they witnessing that they

611
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: see The Kardashians, who I think have actually done a

612
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: lot of especially Kim got involved with with um sensible

613
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: gun laws, which is really cool. And I think that

614
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: that they're cool, they're sisters and they can be funny um,

615
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: but their role models are all these shows. It's like

616
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: basketball wives. It's like just people get TV shows because

617
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: they like had a kid with a hip hop artist

618
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: or something. This isn't like what we want young women

619
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: to be aspiring too. So, um, I don't remember what

620
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think you're talking about sort of the

621
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: role models out there, and that we're talking about how

622
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: you change it and how you change it is. Oh yeah,

623
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: it's opportunities to write and to see, you know, women

624
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: whose bodies look a little more realistic for for like

625
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: actual life, who don't because most people can't afford a

626
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: chef and a trainer and to be starving and have

627
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: somebody like bring over your like little pile of seeds

628
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: that you're allowed to eat in the morning. And I

629
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: and I can afford those things. But I'm like, I'm

630
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: not doing that. I don't want to, like because those

631
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: people aren't happy either. I have some friends who are like,

632
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to hang out today, I won't be

633
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: able to enjoy it. I'm I'm I have to be

634
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: hungry today. And that's like totally typical for really a

635
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: lot of actresses. And it's like still, let's come on enough.

636
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: But it's funny I go to the words shows and

637
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: I try to look my best, and I look like,

638
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: you know, how the costume designers look, and I feel

639
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: proud about that. That's good. Well, let's talk about what's

640
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: happening in Hollywood since uh, you know, obviously there's this

641
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: seismic shift for women, and it's been all women fascinating

642
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: to watch and exhilarating and also kind of mind blowing

643
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: on many levels. And and I'm curious when this started

644
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: to spill out and these stories started to come out

645
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: and women started standing up and speaking out, what did

646
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: you think? I thought. I'm hearing a lot of these

647
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: stories of the survivors of these incidents, and I'm and

648
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: I feel like horrible for them and really proud of

649
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: them for coming forward, and also like that none of

650
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: that happened to me. I think the stuff that's happened

651
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: to all of us, especially with the kind of the

652
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: newer accusations about just coercion, you know, where people are like, oh,

653
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: that's a gray area. And but I love Samantha Bee's

654
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: piece on that. She she just did this monologue about it.

655
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: Everything doesn't have to be rape, you know, It's not

656
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: like raper, It's fine, it's I think a lot of

657
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: us have gotten so used to that behavior of of

658
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: a guy being like come on, like at a younger age,

659
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: especially like in college. I feel like that was you know,

660
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: a quarter of my hookups, like they see what they

661
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: can get out of you and please, you know, imagine

662
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: like I don't know who wants to be with someone

663
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: who's not interested in being with them, but um, that

664
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: kind of like wearing you down and and or you know,

665
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: being an uncomfortable situation being like well I just I

666
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: got myself here, so now I have to have sex

667
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: with this guy or here. I think that's there's been

668
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: a real sea change in especially younger women and consent

669
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: and sort of how it's being framed in college. That's

670
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: that's making them rethink and forcing older women to rethink

671
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: sort of the dynamics that go on in an encounter, right,

672
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: And so for me it's been kind of a little

673
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: bit of a of a mind shift to because I

674
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: think consensual is consensual, but then of course, now we're

675
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: talking about unequal power dynamics and how is it really

676
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: consensual when someone has so much sway over your and

677
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: your career and then they're sort of the consensual well,

678
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: having nothing to do with professional relationships like the disease

679
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: on Sorry story, which I've been thinking a lot about

680
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: and trying to understand kind of the dynamics there, because

681
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: that was very interesting to me. Younger women thought this

682
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: situation was wrong, and I think many older women thought,

683
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: why don't you get up and leave? Right? So where

684
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: do you come down on that whole thing. I'm in

685
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: the middle where I'm saying, what a great thing that

686
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: there's this change with this generation. Who um, I think

687
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna learn from this and uh, you know, Samantha

688
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: b did that whole piece on like no, like, I

689
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: don't think anyone wants to see as these career ruined

690
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: or his life round or anything like that. But that's

691
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: where people's minds go. They go, is it does he

692
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 1: deserve this? And it's it's really not about that, I think. Um.

693
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: I think it's about expressing and showing women that that

694
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: behavior is not okay and that you not only can

695
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: you leave, but you need to leave because then the

696
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: women who come after you, you're you're leaving a mark

697
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: for them too. So it's not just about your own encounter.

698
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: You have to also think about if you don't say

699
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: to somebody, this made me super uncomfortable and it's not okay,

700
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: which is a really uncomfortable thing. And sometimes you go

701
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: always a nice guy and I just want to leave.

702
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it uncomfortable. But if you

703
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: don't really lay your boundaries out, then you're you're leaving

704
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: it open for the for the women to come after you.

705
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of women are feel

706
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: really bad that they've been complicit with with things, but

707
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: we didn't know not to be and I think now

708
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: there's kind of no excuse. And if you have a

709
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: doctor that makes you uncomfortable, or you get a massage,

710
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: or you have a date with someone and they coerce

711
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: you in a situation like the azaz one um, I

712
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: don't think there's any sort of, you know, criminal charge,

713
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: but I think that it's good for this for everybody

714
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: to learn that that behavior is not acceptable. It's not

715
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: a crime, but it's not cool and it can still

716
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: really mess with a with a woman. So it's is

717
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: it the overall presumptuous nous of men who are in

718
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: that situation, Because I also want women to have agency

719
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: and to stand up, But I also appreciate that it's difficult,

720
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: and it's it must be confusing for men too. Well,

721
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: that's what I am thinking about right now. That's why

722
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: I kind of want to come up with a little

723
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: bit of a code of conduct for us as women,

724
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of men are really confused

725
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: right now, you know, and are like, wait, this has

726
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: been cool for so long, and you know, are dynamic

727
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 1: at the office or at the gym or whatever. It's

728
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: been like, you know, we we kind of flirt and

729
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: some people we've all done this. We we just flirt

730
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: back with them, so it's not uncomfortable, or maybe we

731
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: have some sort of an advantage, you know, Oh they

732
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: this guy's feelings for me. So I kind of pray

733
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: on that and we've we've all been there, and and

734
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: we kind of can't do that anymore. And we need

735
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: to explain it to men and to other women that

736
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: that we need to be teaching each other the kind

737
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: of behavior that's accept doble and so when something comes

738
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: up to say that makes me really uncomfortable or you know,

739
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: just what you're willing to accept and that those are

740
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: the hard conversations. But we just can't keep we can't

741
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: let things continue the way that they've continued, because there's

742
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: so many different levels of it, something like what happened

743
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: with disease, which you know, and and he's been my friend,

744
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: and I I really I feel for I feel for

745
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: the woman um I identify with with all the women

746
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: in these situations, I kind of my mind doesn't go right,

747
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: even if it's my friend, I don't go, oh, but

748
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. I think, what would it feel

749
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: like to have been her? You know? And uh, well

750
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: you were in some ways her because you've had a

751
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: situation that you talked about in your book. Oh oh yeah, No,

752
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean I've been flat out raped. But I mean,

753
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: but there are so many other kinds of sex. There's

754
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: so much much other sexual misconduct. I mean, we've we've

755
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: all every woman I know, every woman in this room,

756
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: we've all had these experiences that and I think in

757
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: some ways, this this current climate, it brings these things

758
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: up and you go, got none of that was okay,

759
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm someone new journals. I kept journals

760
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: and I read back and I go, I just feel

761
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: so bad for that girl. You know, why why didn't

762
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: you get up and leaving? Sometimes you do and sometimes

763
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: you just you just do it. Do you think that

764
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: the conversation will? You know? Right now, it seems like

765
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: a volcano erupting and and sort of this fury and

766
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: rage and frustration and it's kind of ickiness that has

767
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: been sort of bubbling beneath the surface is now kind

768
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: of exploding. And women are talking about this, and men,

769
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: I think are are not part of the conversation right now, Um,

770
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: what do you how do you see this, this movement

771
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: of evolving? I think, Um, a lot of men are

772
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: anxious to be part of the movement because they want

773
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: to help and they're good people, and you know, and

774
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: I think they also want to understand uh maybe what

775
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: they behavior that they felt comfortable and why why it

776
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: wasn't okay right? And it's up to us to teach them.

777
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: And I do mean women, I think, and I think

778
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: they're open to it. People. You know a lot of

779
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: the men in my life are are open at self

780
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: reflection and evolving and and I am, And so how

781
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: can we be better at teaching them? And you know, um,

782
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: it's there's some behavior where you go that's just clearly

783
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: insanely wrong and you should just be in jail. Uh, like,

784
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: oh gosh, I'm just I'm so proud of all those

785
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: gymnasts who stood up to and how about how great

786
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: was that judge who went, I'm signing your death sense

787
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: And these women are not victims, their survivors, and yeah,

788
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of up to us to teach them

789
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: right now so that things can be different for the

790
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: next generation. I think we'll see some movement, you know,

791
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: like I get to spend a bunch of time with

792
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Glorious Steinham and this is a really exciting time for her,

793
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: and they had to fight to get their own magazine

794
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: and people weren't listening that we have the Internet, we

795
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: have like a real voice, and people are really paying attention,

796
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: and and it's just so across all industries. It's like

797
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: and most of the women times up, like you know,

798
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: we're like, Okay, let's let's take care of our house first,

799
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: which I think Shanda Ryan said at a meeting. Um,

800
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: But you know, there's so many levels under sort of

801
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: what our houses. It's like the stunt women, the crew women.

802
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: But but it's set up so that women in all

803
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: industries and in these low paying jobs, women work at

804
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: hotels and farm workers and people working, you know, in

805
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: the service industry. It's it's rampant, it's it's really frightening.

806
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: And um, I think I think there's like this big

807
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: change happening and and and I don't think it will

808
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: burn out because the people everyone's really fired up about

809
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: just giving their time and energy because it's just so

810
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: important and essential. Do you think this would have happened

811
00:42:53,800 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: if Donald Trump hadn't been elected? No? No, I don't so,

812
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a Hillary girl myself. But but if

813
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: we want to find any sort of silver lining, if

814
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: he hadn't bragged about grabbing pussies, we probably wouldn't be

815
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: protecting ours so much right now. You have been involved

816
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: in this even before this movement happened, because you've spoken

817
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: out about pay in equity. When you got your Netflix

818
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: special and found out Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock we're

819
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: making a certain salary that was really almost twice as

820
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: much as yours. You said, exqueeze me. Yeah, well again,

821
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't I wasn't like trying to go viral with

822
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: news for that, and that news didn't kind of break

823
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: till later on. I um, I I thought those guys

824
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: are absolute legends. There are two of my best friends also,

825
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: and they deserve every penny they got paid for that

826
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: those specials, and you know, um, and I'm really proud

827
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: of them. And also I don't I don't think with

828
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: where I am sort of in the zeitgeist right now,

829
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: that I deserve half of what they're getting. I think

830
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask for more. And I asked by myself.

831
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: I didn't pay anybody any commission on the the extra

832
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: money I received, and um, you know, and there was

833
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: so much I have these uh, and I'm sure you

834
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: probably do too, just with working on gun laws and

835
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: with the nature of my stand up I I have

836
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: like organized trolls who go against me and they get

837
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: my movies voted down on Rotten Tomatoes and all this stuff.

838
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: And with the special Yeah, what a treat. But I'm

839
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: just like, I really truly don't care. Um. First, I'm

840
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: sure it was pretty unkner, of course, and then you

841
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: learn like, yeah, you're like, oh god, you're you're so afraid.

842
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: And then it's like I'm just gonna keep doing my

843
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: thing and they're doing their thing, and you know, uh.

844
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: But so there was so much controversy with this, with

845
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: this special and people really looking to hate on it,

846
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: and I'm really I'm really very proud of it. And

847
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: I got nominated for I directed it, so I got

848
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: nominated for directing it. I'm up against the Oscars, so

849
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll beat the Oscars. But um but

850
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, it's not that cute and when

851
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: it comes out in the news, oh, that wasn't enough

852
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: money for you, you should be grateful. I just thought,

853
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: that's not the message that we need to be sending

854
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: right now. It's not about that. It's not you know,

855
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: I my last season and my TV show I was

856
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: I felt like kind of underpaid the whole time. And

857
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: then so you went to Comedy Central too, Yeah, and

858
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I know that these guys with

859
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: similar shows to me are getting more money than me.

860
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: And so finally when they gave me more money, I

861
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: donated it to the crew who had been working with

862
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: me the whole time, just to be it's not about that.

863
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: You know, shore money is awesome and and I love

864
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: fun and drinking nice wine, but um but I donate

865
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: so much, and it really for me was just about like,

866
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: it's not being it's not fair, like I had a

867
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: book deal back in the day and I was like, no,

868
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: I think I I think, I bet it will be

869
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: worth ten times more than this, and I backed out.

870
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted me to. And you know, you've got to

871
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: like stand your ground. And that's why I really want

872
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: to support just women in any job fighting for equal pay,

873
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: and I it's it can be really hard. I know

874
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: it's different different industries. It's easier said than done. But

875
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: if I can support, um, yeah, I want to and

876
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: I want to send that message. But it's so so

877
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: typical because if as a woman, if you do make demands,

878
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: if you do ask for equality, you're automatically seen as difficult, bitchy,

879
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: You're vilified, right, And I think that's because of how

880
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: we've been conditioned to act. And I think that, I think,

881
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: but I think I do think women. One of the

882
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: great I think UM aspects of this movement is I

883
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: think we're going to equip women with hopefully the confidence

884
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: and the power to make demands and to not typecast

885
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: them when they do. Right. But I think our our

886
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: society really and I think probably that's why you got

887
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: so much pushback. A man would first, first of all,

888
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: a man wouldn't have had to do that. But secondly,

889
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: if he had, everyone would have been like, yeah, right,

890
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: I got your money's son. Yeah. But for me, it's

891
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: like I anticipated that and it didn't come out until like,

892
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, a month after it came out or something

893
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: after the special came out. I think, and uh, I'm

894
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: proud of my business sense. And I think another message

895
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: that we want to send is that there's power in numbers.

896
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: And so that's why, you know, I I spoke to

897
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: uh I never. I don't even know cats Adler, you know,

898
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: like I probably spoked to herd a carpet or something once,

899
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: but she was a correspondent to E and uh and

900
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: I just heard about her not getting offered equal pay

901
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: and it was like, well, let's let's stand up for

902
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: this woman, in fight for her. Let's stand up for

903
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: each other, you know. And right now it's like within

904
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: our business, but we're we're joining forces with all these

905
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: other industries so that it's you know, it's it's a

906
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: global thing. There's they want to start at times up Kenya.

907
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: It's exciting, it's awesome. But you know, Amy, I I

908
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: through the years, you have gotten I think because you

909
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: are comfortable in your own skin and who you are.

910
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: But how do you handle it when people attack you relentlessly?

911
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: And I mean I think everyone probably is attacked relentlessly

912
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: these days with social Yeah, it with so much vitriol,

913
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: whether it's about you know anything, yeah, soup to nuts,

914
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: it could be about money or right, or it could

915
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: be about your position on on gun laws. I mean,

916
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: so that's that can be very debilitating, demoralizing and psychically depleting,

917
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: I think, And and so how do you how do

918
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: you handle it? I just early on, like I you know,

919
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: I did the roast of Charlie Sheen and after one

920
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: of my jokes, got a lot of pushback, and um

921
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: and I knew then and I know now that it's

922
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: not it's not actually personal. I think. I think success

923
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: really annoys people. And when somebody's making money and they're

924
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: doing well, you can't help it. You just want them

925
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: to fail. And I don't blame anyone for that. What

926
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: is it about? We're all like to call it the

927
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: tall poppy syndrome in Australia, right, nobody is allowed to

928
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: get famous there. Um well, when they do, they just

929
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: can't wait to chop you down. Right, So I think

930
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: it's that, Um, that's just sort of resenting instead of

931
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: putting energy towards working on yourself. I think it's really

932
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: easy to just vilify somebody else. And so that doesn't

933
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: feel personal to me any any feelings like that. That's

934
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: more about the person who has those feelings than it

935
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: is about me. And and these controversies that have come up,

936
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I've had many, like people are waiting

937
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: to tear you down and burn you at the steak

938
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: when you're in this position, and some of them I've

939
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: I've really learned from, and I still have so much

940
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: I need to learn. And uh, I just I really

941
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: don't take it personally, and it never makes me feel

942
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: like I'm a bad person, you know if I always

943
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: feel that way? Or did you learn to not take

944
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: it personally? No, I I learned. I learned early on.

945
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: I learned like ten years ago, and so since that,

946
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: it feels bad when it's like affecting work, you know,

947
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: like if I'm getting picketed or something like, it's it's like,

948
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: oh God, this is going to push us back an

949
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: hour or something like that. But um, it doesn't hurt

950
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 1: my feelings anymore. It hasn't for like ten years. Um,

951
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: did you read it? Like, if there's like a big

952
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: thing going on, I'll like check it out. But it

953
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: makes me laugh, Like, I don't know, Yeah, I really

954
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: feel like I know who I am, and I love

955
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: my friends and family and like the people I'm close to,

956
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: and I'm respected by the comedians that I love and respect,

957
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: and I just I feel really fortunate. And if I

958
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: let myself get brought down by these you know, like

959
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: controversies that I know, don't don't actually like that what

960
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: my intentions were were, you know, if I hurt someone,

961
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: I feel I would feel horrible, you know. But um,

962
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: and you know, like, and I think there's a lot

963
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: of when it comes to race, Like I now on

964
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: my projects have an inclusion writer, so there has to

965
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: be a certain number of a number of people people

966
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: of color, or people with disabilities or something, you know,

967
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: filling these roles. That that's like and this is a

968
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: big part of times up where we're all encouraging people

969
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: to do this now, um, so that the cast is

970
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: like more reflective of the actual population. And um, and

971
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: I've been like accused of being racist over the years,

972
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: and and I'm just I just am so not but

973
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: I I also recognize there's room to grow, and I

974
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: just want to do my best to empower women and

975
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: people of color and and I but I also understand

976
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: it's like it's got to be really annoying, Like I

977
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: could see myself getting vilified in you know, different communities

978
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. But my intentions are just so to

979
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: truly include everyone. And so do you ever worry that

980
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: this heightened sensitivity and this kind of greater consciousness about

981
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: not offending people has that the pendulum perhaps has swung

982
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: too far and that you feel like you're walking on

983
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: eggshells and someone's going to be upset if you make

984
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: a joke about this or that, or do you think

985
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: it's a good thing or are you again somewhere in

986
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: the middle. No, I do think it's a good thing.

987
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: You know, jokes that I made ten years ago, I

988
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't dream of making now. And um, that was just

989
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: kind of right for me at the time. And culturally

990
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: things were different, and you know, like guys were telling

991
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of rape jokes. I had some jokes

992
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: about rape, and that's just that that just is so

993
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: unacceptable now, and um, and just I feel more of

994
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: a responsibility because my voice is heard more now, So

995
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: I I want to do a good job of of

996
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: not hurting anyone's feelings and just you know, sort of

997
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: moving the needle in the right way. So I don't

998
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: think it's a bad thing, this oversensitivity. And they'll still

999
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: be comics that don't you know, care, and they'll just

1000
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: say whatever they want if you want that, But I'm

1001
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: not interested in doing that personally. I don't feel held back.

1002
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 1: I don't feel you know, there's some things like that's

1003
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: just for your friends, and we can always just joke

1004
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: with our friends. I'm friends with like the dirtiest comedians alive,

1005
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: and we say horrible stuff to each other that if

1006
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: we get got out, we'd be toast. You know that

1007
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: everybody has those conversations with their friends and family. But

1008
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: what I am willing to stay on stage, it's it's

1009
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: and it's not like a self preservation thing. It's just

1010
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in it, and it just doesn't feel

1011
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: like the right time. I wanted before we go talk

1012
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: to you about how you got involved in gun activism. You, um,

1013
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: I remember very well when that happened at that movie

1014
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: theater where train Wreck was playing that was in Louisiana, Yeah, Lafaye, Louisiana.

1015
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: And yeah, two young women were killed, a twenty one

1016
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: year old woman and I believe a thirty three year

1017
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: old woman. And I was thinking about them, you know,

1018
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: and then you know, these things happen, and I don't

1019
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: know today, I was thinking about how quickly people forget

1020
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: about tragedies and move on. I was thinking about their

1021
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: families when I was getting ready to talk to you,

1022
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 1: because I thought, who remembers that? Who remembers them? Me? Yeah,

1023
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: and their families. I think about them all the time.

1024
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: I kind of keep them with me and any like

1025
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: accomplishments or anything. And I, yeah, I just always mentioned them.

1026
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: I dedicate every special to them now and just and

1027
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: you know, just to kind of keep them alive in

1028
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: myself and and just in the ether. Um, is that

1029
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: what set you off on this path to really try

1030
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: to do something about how many guns from this country?

1031
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, were you? Was that something that you

1032
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: were passionate about before? Though not now. I really had

1033
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: no information before then, and and I missed those days

1034
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: because it's just you know, it's really it's really upsetting. Um,

1035
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: the just how sort of lacks the gun laws aren't

1036
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: how how easy it is for somebody who's who's on

1037
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, a no fly list or somebody who's mentally

1038
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: ill or has been convicted of being an abuser, Like

1039
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: it's still pretty easy to get a gun, and uh

1040
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: a yeah. And these shootings they're they're every new one.

1041
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: They're like the news cycle just just yeah, there's a

1042
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: new thing the next day. And you know, we we

1043
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: pushed and we get into Congress's face and we go

1044
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: because so many politicians are getting money directly from the

1045
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: n r A, as you know, and uh yeah, and

1046
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: you are you are you discouraged? Um? I sometimes I

1047
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: but then I look at the people who work at

1048
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: every Town for Gun Safety and you know, Julianne Moore

1049
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: and I are both on the board there, and and

1050
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: then just going out to these events and meeting people.

1051
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: I just before the Las Vegas shooting, a couple of

1052
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: months before, I had been in Vegas to meeting with

1053
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: their chapter for every time, just listening to people's stories

1054
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: about how gun violence has affected them. They're just so

1055
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: heartbreaking that you're just like, even if I move this,

1056
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: just I can help move this just a little bit

1057
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Speaker 1: in my lifetime. That'll be worth it. And I just,

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody just refuses to give up. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I believe it'll take a long time, but I think

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Speaker 1: they'll be like a real change. I do. I have

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Speaker 1: to believe that. As we look ahead and knowing that

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Speaker 1: you were a passionate Hillary Clinton supporter, how are you

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Speaker 1: surviving the era of Trump? I just feel so much

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Speaker 1: better than I think we all did a year ago.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of my actually all my friends

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Speaker 1: were just like get a depression for a year. Those

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Speaker 1: especially those first few days after the election, Like it was,

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Speaker 1: it was just like the most painful, like worst I

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Speaker 1: would you know, I would say it was second to

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Speaker 1: to getting the news that Macy and Jillian had been killed.

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Speaker 1: It was just and I just felt angry, and there's

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Speaker 1: got to be a place for that, you know, for

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Speaker 1: women to express anger. And yeah, we just needed a

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Speaker 1: little time to be for it to really mess us

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Speaker 1: up and realize how bad things still are in the world.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got blessed with this Obama era, these

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00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: great eight years we were given, and then just to

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Speaker 1: be like an about face in the wrong direction in

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Speaker 1: what feels like every single area to me, I just

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Speaker 1: feel that he is a huge annoying setback and um,

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Speaker 1: and that that's like a very you know, that's incredibly reductive.

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Speaker 1: But and I don't think that anybody who is afraid

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00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: of deportation right now, like living in terror is um,

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00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: I would look at it that way. But but that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to keep it that way in my sights,

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00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: to keep myself encouraged that you know, we can all

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00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: really work together and make change. And um, women wanting

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00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: to lead and women wanting to run for Congress, and

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00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: we're seeing so much, so much changing just you know,

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Speaker 1: with politics, and and I believe we'll get the House

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Speaker 1: back this year, that's my hope. And and and in

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Speaker 1: a way, he has been a a real catalyst, hasn't he.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you mentioned a silver lining, But

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00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: it seems as if people have been you know, woken

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00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: up from their complacency. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like I'm not mad at Internet rolls. I'm not

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00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: even mad at Trump. He's just he's just like King Joffrey,

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00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: like he's just been empowered by people who didn't I

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00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: feel like they didn't understand, they didn't understand and I

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00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: wrote like a really aggressive tweet or Instagram the day

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00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: after he won. I was just furious with these people, like,

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Speaker 1: do you understand what you've done? You know, the people

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00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: who elected him, and I think a lot of them

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00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: have real regrets and it didn't understand and uh, but

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Speaker 1: do you have compassion for some of these voters who

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00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: felt like Hillary Clinton was not speaking to them? And

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. I think that deplorable comment

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00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: was probably doably really damaging to her candidacy. Yeah, I

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01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: think it. I think it was too like there's all

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Speaker 1: these like, you know, we got we can read what happened,

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01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: but it's um, it's you know, it just doesn't that

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Speaker 1: sound funny that he's now saying these shiphole countries and

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Speaker 1: you know he's paying he paid off a porn star

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Speaker 1: after Baron was born. Like it's just if you put

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Speaker 1: them on a chart next to each other, It's just

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Speaker 1: it's hilarious the things that she's been vilified for versus

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Speaker 1: the things that we're just not even paying attention to anymore.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even on SNL that they had a game

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Speaker 1: show doesn't matter. Oh yeah, Jessica chast A hust She's

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Speaker 1: just such a great job. Yeah. Yeah, And it was like,

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Speaker 1: we can't even keep up. It's not even interesting anymore,

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Speaker 1: you know, When someone like did you hear what he

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Speaker 1: Trump said today, I'm just like, I don't. Can I

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Speaker 1: skip it? Like? Can I just can I set this

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Speaker 1: one out? Yeah? But all all you're feeling very optimistic

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Speaker 1: about the future and about the state of the country

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: just a year ago. I really am. I think people

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Speaker 1: are understanding that the change has to come from from them.

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Speaker 1: If you have it in you to run for office,

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Speaker 1: or to go to a meeting, or to start like

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01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: a chapter of something in your town where you can

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Speaker 1: try to help get the word out for people to vote. Um.

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Speaker 1: Just people didn't know what they were capable of, and

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Speaker 1: I think they're feeling more empowered, and I think we

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Speaker 1: really are about to experience even more change for the better.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you'd ever run for office? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's got to be a sex tape of me out

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Speaker 1: there somewhere. Can you be in office if you have

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Speaker 1: a sex tape? Um? Yeah, I don't know. If I

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Speaker 1: thought that would be helpful and I would do a

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Speaker 1: good job. It's the same as like a role in

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Speaker 1: a movie. I just I don't want to do it

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01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: if there's someone out there who could do it better

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Speaker 1: than me. But if I ever felt like I could

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Speaker 1: do a good job and be helpful, I would. Because

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer, of course, is your second cousin. They used

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Speaker 1: to say the most dangerous place to be on Capitol

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Speaker 1: Hill was between Chuck Schumer and a camera. Oh that's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not afraid of the spotlight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm really proud of him. And I know, you know

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Speaker 1: what what's been happening lately, it's like it just seems

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Speaker 1: was that a miscalculation in your view of what the

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Speaker 1: shutdown and the DHAKA and sort of the Democrats position

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Speaker 1: on that, Um, I a miscalculation, like yeah, well some

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Speaker 1: people think it's really hurt the Democrats, right, I don't know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, I'm watching the news like

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Speaker 1: everybody else, and I'm reading like what Chuck's kind of

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Speaker 1: press releases are about it, And you know, I know him,

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Speaker 1: I love him. I believe he's the greatest intentions, and

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Speaker 1: I believe he has a plan. And I hope Mitch

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Speaker 1: McConnell wasn't lying. I'm hoping the same things that everybody's hoping.

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Speaker 1: Anyone you like for twenty Yeah, well we found out

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Speaker 1: Oprah is not interested. So how about Shonda Rhymes. I'd

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Speaker 1: vote for her. I love talking to you, Amy Schumer,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming here microphone anytime. We can talk and

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01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: talk real shit. We can really talk it. You can

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01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: make a lot of jokes about me. You can even

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01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: talk about anal sex. But don't say that. You said

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Speaker 1: you love humor. Yes, I'll never say that again. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to our roving podcast production team for helping us

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Speaker 1: record at Amy's pad for this one. It's kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: I was in Amy's pad. That's Gianna Palmer, our producer,

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Speaker 1: Jared O'Connell, our audio engineer, Assistant producer Nora Richie. Thanks also,

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Speaker 1: as always to Betamaz and Emily Beana over at Katie

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Speaker 1: Correct Media, and Alison Fresnick, who represents on social media.

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Speaker 1: Katie and I are the executive producers around here. Mark

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Speaker 1: Phillips wrote our theme music. Please feel free to send

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Speaker 1: your questions, feedback, and guest ideas to us over at

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Speaker 1: comments at current podcast dot com, or you can leave

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Speaker 1: us a voicemail. As always at nine to nine two

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Speaker 1: to four, four, six, three seven. That does it for

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Speaker 1: us today everyone. We'll be back next week with our

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Speaker 1: latest wonder Woman, Laverne Cox. Bye, Brian, talk to you

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Speaker 1: next week, Katie,