1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travison buck Sexton 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: our number two. Encourage all of you to go download 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: and subscribe to the podcast. You can give us five 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: stars and you won't miss a single moment of all 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: of the glorious action. By the way, we are scheduled 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: to be joined by Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson at the 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: top of the third hour. Should be a good discussion 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: with him. He's been one of the most outspoken people 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to the craziness that is surrounding everything 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: COVID and on Friday, you may have been listening as 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: the news came down that Aaron Rodgers publicly essentially had 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that he had not been vaccinated, and as 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: a result, he missed a game over the weekend between 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and the Green Bay Packers, which 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: would have been and still was, one of the signature 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: games of the NFL weekend. As a result, his backup 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: had to play. Aaron Rodgers did an interview where he 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: made a lot of pretty outstanding points, such as, this 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: is not a pandemic of the unvaccinated he believes that 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: individual players should have the right to make decisions about 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: their own health related conditions. By the way, this is 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: an opinion that was echoed by none other than doctor 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Marty McCary, who's been on with us a bunch of 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: different times. Buck, he tweeted something that I thought was 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: pretty significant, and I'm going to read that for you 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: here momentarily, But he was pointing out that there's not 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: really a lot of danger. He said, watching all the 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: drama around Aaron Rodgers, how many pro athletes have ever 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: died of COVID in any sport, in any country in 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: the last two years. Zero. They're the lowest risk people 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: on Earth. Let's channel this energy to talk about obesity 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: as a leading risk factor. Well, actually is a smart 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: and intelligent and rational perspective, and so not surprisingly it 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: received relatively minimal attention on Twitter, but I did retweet 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: it and I thought it was well said by doctor McCarry. 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: But also the guy probably who used to have as 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: big of a radio show is the one that we 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: have now before he moved to satellite radio, Howard Stern Buck, 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: who used to be an iconoclastic rebel that was willing 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: to stand up for free speech that fought back against 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: censorious government overreach through the FCC. He's now turned into 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: what he used to hate and become a boring, plotting 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: old man sheep who's convinced that COVID is going to 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: kill him. And he went on his show This Morning 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Buck and said that Aaron Rodgers should be banned from 47 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the NFL. Listen to Stern, Aaron Rodgers of the NFL, 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin with that story. 49 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean this guy. I know, the guy's a real 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: good football player. That's why they put up with his 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: bullet I would throw this guy out of the football 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: league so fast what he did to his fellow teammate. 53 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: And you know, bravo Terry Bradshaw for what you said, 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: and everyone else who's got half a brain in this country. 55 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: But this guy, they should throw him out of the 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: league so fast. Aaron Rodgers. Come on, dude, really you 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: know that whole bullet game. Yeah, I have the antibodies now. 58 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know where these guys get 59 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: their information from. At the press conference, he said he 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: got his information from Joe Rogan. With all due respect 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, what did Joe Rogan with a medical problem. Yeah, 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: you got doctors who study in medical school. I don't 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: know what has happened to this country. I don't know 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: what has happened to Howard String is this? Yeah, it's 65 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: it's a shame man, because you'd like to see people 66 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: that have that kind of platform and reach still at 67 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: least be free thinkers. I also think there's that there 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: is a real degree of jealousy among many in the media, 69 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: particularly with regard to Joe Rogan and the reach that 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: he has and what he's built, So that may factor 71 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: into this a little bit too. But the notion that 72 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: antibody from previous infection aren't real is that this is 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: a delusion. This is a fauciite insanity that we've all 74 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: now had to suffer through because it didn't go along 75 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: with the policy of getting everyone in the shot. We 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: can play this game out as much as we want. 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: People who are vaccinated, can still get very sick, can 78 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: actually still die, can get the virus, can spread the virus. Now, 79 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: the argument is they're less likely to get and spread 80 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: and less likely to be hospitalized or die. That is 81 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: also true of those with natural immunity, So you know, 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: and actually natural immunity, as we've seen, is more durable 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: and better. So then for the people who think they're 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: such heroes because they got the shot and they're doing 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: all the signs and all the stuff, why not get 86 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: the shot, you know every ninety days. Why not just 87 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: decide that you're going to be super protective of everybody 88 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: from COVID. You say, oh, well that's not what the 89 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: FDE recommend. Well, why not, it's so safe. What's the 90 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: big deal? Right? We know the antibodies start to wane 91 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: about three, four or five months in something like that. So, Clay, 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: these are all judgment calls, and the problem is that 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: people believe they think that they think that you look 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: at the scientific data, you listen to these experts. By 95 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: the way, experts disagree on all kinds of things. Ask 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: two nutritionists, is cow milk good for you? You'll get 97 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, fifty different expe day. Yet yes, no, maybe so, 98 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: And people think that there is the science because this 99 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: has been the propaganda the Democrats have used to justify 100 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: Fauci's In the whole way, these are all judgment calls. 101 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: There are some doctors you'll go to. I'm sure you've 102 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: had that experience. Well, they'll say, oh, you know, your 103 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: knees a little bit injured. You should never play that 104 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: sport again. You know you're You're just only the swimming 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: pool for you from now on. Well, Doc, maybe I'm 106 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: gonna tear my ICL, but I'm gonna I want to 107 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: live my life, right, I mean, they give you advice, 108 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: and then the people are supposed to make the judgment. 109 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: Individuals are supposed to make the judgment in setting of 110 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: people like Stern who feel like what he still could 111 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: have gotten sick and still spread it even if he 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: had gotten the shots. So, Clay, what are we even 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: talking about? At this point? It's wild to me, Buck 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: that there was more criticism of Aaron Rodgers for his 115 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: opinion on whether or not to be vaccinated then there 116 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: was of Henry Ruggs for driving one hundred and fifty 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: miles an hour drunk allegedly and killing a woman in 118 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. I think there was. This is part and 119 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: parcel of the larger universe where we allow Twitter to 120 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: govern the decisions that we make as a country, and 121 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: Twitter is a primarily word based medium, such that we 122 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: overpunish people for thought crimes. You know, in many ways. 123 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: That's what cancel culture is, right. Cancel culture predominantly is 124 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: about very often somebody says something and they're not allowed 125 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: to continue their normal existence. And that was a great 126 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: point that Chappelle made. Dave Chappelle did in his Netflix 127 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: special which was so controversial, but he pointed out that 128 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: the baby and I'm not a modern hip hop scholar, 129 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: but I might eleven year old listens to every rap 130 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: song known demand and he's a big fan of the debaby. 131 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: The guy killed a man in Walmart, Didn't it really 132 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: impact his rap career at all? He says anti gay 133 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: comments at a concert and they pull his music off 134 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: of all these different distributions and the devices, and it's 135 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: as if he's going to be canceled for that opinion 136 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: on gay people. So regardless, like you don't have to 137 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: agree with any of his opinions, most adults understand that 138 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: if you had to choose between words or actions, you 139 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: would rather somebody say something inappropriate then do something inappropriate. 140 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: If you were to pull ninety five percent of journalists, honestly, 141 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: whether it should be more of a fireball and expulsion 142 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: worthy offense from any professional league to stab somebody in 143 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: a bar fight to death or to lie about your 144 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: COVID status. A lot of them would say it was 145 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: the COVID status. A huge majority of them would say 146 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: it's the COVID status because you know, bar fight, words exchange, 147 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: who knows you weren't there, But COVID status, that's something, 148 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, vaccination status, I mean, not COVID status, but 149 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: the vaccination status when it comes to COVID, that's something 150 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: that's just that's too far and too much for them. 151 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: And the fact the fact that they're coming after Aaron 152 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: Rodgers in this way, it just goes to show you 153 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: they're still pretending this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. 154 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: Clay people who don't get the booster are not going 155 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: to be protected that much longer. This is what they 156 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: don't want everyone. You know, you're gonna have some minimal 157 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: level of protection from this, certainly less than those with 158 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: natural immunity in the aggregate. And so then are you 159 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: a bad person if you don't get the booster in time? 160 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: Are you a bad person if you don't get the vaccinated? 161 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the things that nobody's talking 162 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: about with these OSHA regulations. Buck All these people. Let's say, 163 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: like you, you went and got the J and J 164 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: vaccine right under an if you were an NBA player, 165 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: You're J and J vaccine would not count anymore. In 166 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: order to be considered fully vaccinated, you would have to 167 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: go out and get a new booster shot or you 168 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: would be treated as unvaccinated, even though you got the 169 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: spirit airlines of vaccines and you thought you were done. 170 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, man, they're really throwing some shade here at 171 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: the Jay Jay vaccine. That's what the NBA's doing. But 172 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: what can you say this, Duke Lay? Yeah, everybody that 173 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: I have spoken to, so because New York has been 174 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: the craziest place for vaccines in the whole country. No 175 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: nowhere else has been as a great. San Francisco, Okaya, 176 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: La followed, but New York was the first. And New 177 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: York has been very aggressive about already enforcing this. And 178 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: it's a it's constant harassment. I mean I've gone, I've 179 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: gone to get coffee to go, and I've like stood there, 180 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: looked at my phone for a second, had someone run 181 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: over and me, excuse me, sir, if you're gonna stay here, 182 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: I need to see your vaccine card and it's just 183 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: all over the place. It's very annoying. A lot of 184 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: fake vaccine cards here in New York. I'll say that, 185 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: a lot more than I had anticipated, because people are 186 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: just like, they're like ride or die man, they don't care, 187 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna go with it. And then the other part 188 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: of it that I think is interesting is how many 189 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: people I've already spoken to who say I was willing 190 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: to do this one time because I didn't want to 191 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: lose my job or I didn't want to have you know, 192 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: And now that they're being told you got to get 193 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: a booster, even people that were pretty okay with getting 194 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: the shot, I wasn't opposed. I mean, I've I've gotten 195 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: so many vaccinations because when I was in the CIA, 196 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: there seventy of these like crazy countries where you have 197 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: to get all these you know, there's all these weird 198 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: diseases you can get. So I've gotten more vaccinations than 199 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the audience right now already before this, 200 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: except for military folks, they would have gotten probably a 201 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: lot of the same stuff. So what the point being 202 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: they're drawing a line, a hard line at boosters. A 203 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna say no, because then you 204 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: know you're in the cycle. Never you know you're the 205 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: gerbil on the wheel. That's right. And by the way, 206 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that I don't think anybody's 207 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: really thought through about the federal vaccine mandate. In order 208 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: to be considered fully vaccinated. We're talking about a perpetually 209 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: reinforcing federal vaccine mandate. They may not end for years 210 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: into the future. And by the way, on the Aaron 211 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers front, think about this, buck, Aaron Rodgers would have 212 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: been far better off to get a duy, not to 213 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: kill somebody like Henry Ruggs allegedly did, but to get 214 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: a dui, drive drunk and indisputably be drunk driving, get 215 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: pulled over and get arrested. Then he would have to 216 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: share his public opinion on the COVID vaccine when it 217 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: wasn't the right opinion. If you asked crazy again, if 218 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: you asked the journos out there, what is more dangerous 219 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: one person who was unvaccinated going around living their life 220 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: or somebody with three times the blood alcohol limit to 221 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: be behind the wheel driving at high speeds. A lot 222 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: of them just basis on the data, right, people thought 223 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: Clay that there's a huge portion of Democrats who think 224 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: your chance of going to the hospital if you get 225 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: COVID is fifty percent. Yes, there's a's like thirty or 226 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: forty percent. It's some crazy high number. They're completely out 227 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: of their minds. And then they turn around they look 228 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: at you like, oh my gosh, you're not double mask 229 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: the whole thing. It drives me nuts. Anyway, I got Look, 230 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: the good news is I got my Aaron Rodgers jersey 231 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: on the way. You know, well, actually I gotta find 232 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: where I buy one first, but then I'm gonna get 233 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: one and get it sent to me. We'll continue this fight. 234 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: You know. They did allow somebody to go on see 235 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: and n clay to actually speak some sense. Did you 236 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: see this over the weekend the election? 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Become an EIB twenty 269 00:13:53,600 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: four seven VIP today at Clayinbuck dot com inspired by Rush. 270 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Despite their best efforts, over at CNN, occasionally insight filters 271 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: onto their airwaves. Occasionally something is said that is not 272 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: just left wing propaganda, that makes you want to roll 273 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: your eyes and throw something at the wall. And of 274 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: course then at AN I'm surprised they didn't go to 275 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: commercial right away when this happened. So the mainstream media, 276 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: corporate Democrat media, better term than mainstream. The corporate Democrat 277 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: media's view of the election in Virginia is that it 278 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: was racism. That's what they're saying, racism. And this is 279 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: what lazy journalists say all the time. Everything is about 280 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: racism and race all the time. An author, I assume 281 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: a left wing author, but one who focuses more on class, 282 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: had an interesting perspective on this one and was kind 283 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: of slapping around the Democrat corporate media about this. A 284 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: little one on Brian Stelter Show, which is not a 285 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: hard thing to do. Brian Stelter is not the most 286 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: adeptive host. But where are You So made? Author Botia 287 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Unger Sargan has a book out, Bad News, How woke 288 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: media is undermining demoction. Maybe she's not left wing. Actually, 289 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this lady before. She had a 290 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: great moment on Stelter's otherwise crappy show. Play the clip 291 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: player you're describing as bad news? How did that shape 292 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: action results on Tuesday? I felt that Tuesday was a 293 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: really good advertisement for my book, because my book is 294 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: arguing that a lot of this conversation around wokeness is 295 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: actually about class. We are hiding a class divide in America. 296 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: We are hiding the just disgusting levels of income inequality 297 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: in America. We are hiding the total dispossession of the 298 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: working class of all races by focusing on a very 299 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: highly specialized academic language around race. And I think what happened, 300 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, gun Young Kin's victory was a perfect example 301 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: of this. The media's response to Junkin's victory is literally 302 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: the reason that he won, right, How did they respond? 303 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: There's one hundred media as one hundred reactions. You're bringing 304 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: pretty overly generalized, and I think let me let me 305 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: get more specific for are you okay? Because I have 306 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: to say, I have to admit, having watched CNN all week, 307 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of very, very very genuflection on 308 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: this front. Clay speaking the truth here, which is that 309 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: the woke media is really a lot of the time 310 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: about elites pretending to care about those who are oppressed 311 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: or dispossessed when they're actually avoiding the issue of the 312 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: elites running the shots, running the show and calling all 313 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: the shots. This speaks, you know, in a larger context 314 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: to how broken our media culture is when it comes 315 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: to who actually is being active on Twitter. Do you 316 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: see these numbers that came out from from NBC, Buck, 317 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's important and I know you 318 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: and I are active on social media. Only twenty eight 319 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: percent of people in America are on Twitter. And when 320 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: you look at the data, Twitter overwhelmingly approves of Joe 321 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Biden's job performance, for instance, way in different excess than 322 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: the vast majority of the population. And so it's it's 323 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: it worked creating. In addition to the fact that big 324 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: tech is obviously rigging the game in many ways in 325 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: terms of what people can see. The fact that we're 326 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: treating Twitter as an arbiter of the American world when 327 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: only twenty eight percent of people are on it is 328 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: I think why Twitter is so constantly shocked by the 329 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: results when the real world actually weighs in and shares 330 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: their opinions. Twitter has become, as others have said, the 331 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: assignment editor for the Washing Post and the New York Times, 332 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: and also for a lot of people that make their 333 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: living in information dissemination, propagandists, polemicist, but nonetheless they call 334 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: themselves journalists. That's how they actually feel like they have 335 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: their finger on the pulse of things. But I mean, 336 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: this woman going on, this author going on CNN and 337 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: just saying that all this stuff about how you can't 338 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: criticize CRT because you don't understand CRT. Think about how 339 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: condescending that is to the American people. I mean, and 340 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: all these all these journals going to me, they think 341 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: they're smart. You don't know if CRT, as I get, 342 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: I give you my assurance, Brian Stelter doesn't know what 343 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: the heck CRT is either. The black is like it's 344 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: really a plug crazy stuff. All right, we'll come back 345 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: in a second. We got more on the bills that 346 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: are trying to make their way through, and much for 347 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: coming up here. 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I like to 364 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: consider this a small victory. And there's a lot of 365 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: people who want to weigh in on the phone lines. 366 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Are going to take some of your calls in a moment. 367 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: But State Farm, we're talking about Aaron Rodgers. State Farm 368 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: issued a statement about Aaron Rodgers and his opinion on 369 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine and his refusal to get the COVID vaccine, 370 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: and I actually maybe it's just a measure of how 371 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: much cancel culture often devours everyone that this feels like 372 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: a small measure of victory. Let me read you what 373 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: State Farm said. For those of you who don't know 374 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packer quarterback, it's almost impossible to 375 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: miss all of the commercials that he's in alongside of 376 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes for State Farm Insurance. A lot of people 377 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: out there in the woke sports media were demanding that 378 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: State Farm canceled their relationship with Aaron Rodgers. Here's what 379 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: they said. State Farm said, we don't support some of 380 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: the statements he's made, but we respect his right to 381 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: have his own personal point of view. We recognize our 382 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: customers employees, agents, and brand ambassadors come from all walks 383 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: of life with differing viewpoints on many issues. Our mission 384 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: at State Farm is to support safer, stronger communities. To 385 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: that end, we encourage vaccinations, but we respect everyone's right 386 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: to make a choice based on their personal circumstances. Buck, 387 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: Am I crazy? Or does that feel like a win? 388 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: Given where we are right now in the culture that 389 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: State Farm is at least trying to basically say, hey, 390 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: we want everybody to buy insurance, and we understand that 391 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: everybody doesn't agree on every issue who's going to be 392 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: buying or selling insurance? And this is the only way 393 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: that we get out of corporations as constant battlegrounds for 394 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: every political issue, where they just say, look, we're here 395 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: to provide a service and sell a product and not 396 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: to do all these other things, and have people constantly 397 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: leveraging whatever it is that they're their corporation has in 398 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: terms of reach, whether on social media or just socially 399 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: in general, to push things on people who don't want them. 400 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be nice if we could have 401 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: that again, Clay, But you have some folks who wanted 402 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: to weigh in on this one though. On the Aaron 403 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: Rodgers issue, specifically, want to want to get to it. Yeah, 404 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: let's take their calls. We got Don driving on the 405 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: highway in Michigan, rolling down the highway. What's up, Don, 406 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: how's it going here? We go? Thanks for taking by call. 407 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: Good stuff, appreciate that. Thanks for taking my call. I'm 408 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: i gotta start this off by apologizing to the people 409 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: of Boston. I'm a New England Patriots fan, but I'm 410 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: gonna stick up for Aaron Rodgers anyway. Yes, um. And 411 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: the reason I'm doing this well, I had the vaccine. 412 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: I chose to take it. My son, he's a he's 413 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: in the Navy. He got his. He wanted me to 414 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: take mine. I took. Have no problems with it whatsoever. 415 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: I am all for everybody having a choice to take 416 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: that vaccine, though not forced two because they've already rammed 417 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: healthcare down our throats. Now they want to ram vaccines 418 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: down our throats. And but Aaron Rodgers not taking the vaccine. 419 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: It's a joke because you've got people in the NFL 420 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: with the vaccine still getting the COVID virus. You've got 421 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 1: people in the civilian population getting the COVID virus We 422 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: just saw the whole Florida football team get the flu virus. Yea, 423 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: you know they're going to mandate the vaccine for them. 424 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it's a joke. You know. 425 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: They say, well, you got to wear masks during press conferences. 426 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: If you run your finger down the fold of a mask, 427 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: you can touch your lips. If you can touch your lips, 428 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: then that tiny little coronavirus germ is getting to your 429 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: lips as well. So the masks, unless they're form fitted, 430 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: are an absolute And I just that's that's just my 431 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: feelings in a nutshell. I guess, Hey, John, we appreciate it, man, 432 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: thanks thanks for calling in. And you know, Clay, this 433 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: is all along. Some of us have been doing everything 434 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: we can to raise the alarm about the moment you 435 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: suspend rational thought and you end free inquiry about massively, 436 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, impactful public public practices. Whether it's the stupidity 437 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: of mask up between bites on planes. You know, they've 438 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: gotten more aggressive with that, by the way. Now now 439 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: they'll actually say over the pa if we think you're 440 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: taking too long when you're drinking or eating, will remind 441 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: you to speed up. So this is truly and I've 442 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: said this along. True tyranny is not the strict enforcement 443 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 1: of clear rules. True tyranny is the capricious enforcement of 444 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: bullcrap rules. That is what we have, right, rules for 445 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: some not for others. You have the servant class, so 446 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: to speak, always masked up. I hate seeing this clay 447 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: in restaurants, you know, if you go to I don't 448 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: go to fancy parties, but people who get to go 449 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: to parties you can always see in the photos of them. 450 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Oh like the met gala. Everybody who works there is 451 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: massed up at the attendees aren't. Does the virus care 452 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: how important you are? It's all crap and everyone sees it. 453 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: Scott and Columbus, Ohio. You got a question for us? 454 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: What's up? Good afternoon, gentlemen, long time, first time. I 455 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: have been listening to Russians two thousand and five when 456 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: my father turned me on to him. Well, actually a 457 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: little bit before that. They're doing an amazing job. He 458 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: was awesome. My question is for the lawyer of a 459 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: bunch that would be clay. Yeah, that's right, Okay. Can 460 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: you explain to me the difference between a mandate and 461 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: a law is that that's what I see on the 462 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: screen here, Clay, we'll hand this one mandate in a law. Well, 463 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: in general, what I would say is, let me take 464 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: a step back. This is the argument that I made 465 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: buck against the OSHA regulation. If Congress, if the Senate 466 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: and the House agreed to put in place a federal 467 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: mandate for that would be a law right. The federal 468 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: mandate would be coming from Congress. It would be under 469 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: the prism or under the construct of a law. That 470 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: would be stronger legally because you would say, well, there's 471 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: a way to respond. If you don't like the laws 472 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: that your representatives or senators are passing, you can exercise 473 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: your right to vote and you can vote them out. 474 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: A regulatory agency does not have the same democratic ability 475 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: to be impacted. In other words, if you're furious at 476 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: OSHA over this new vaccine mandate, how do you take 477 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: it out against them? There isn't the same democratic process. 478 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: So the way that I would construct it is the 479 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: difference between a law is or passes. Laws mandates come 480 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: down from federal agencies without the impromatur of a law 481 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: behind them. A law mandating a federal vaccine would be 482 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: a stronger legal argument than a agency's implementation of a 483 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: vaccine mandate at the discretion of the executive branch. In 484 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: some way, it's a big mess, but that's the way 485 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: I would distinguish it. No, I think that's absolutely correct. 486 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: So Scotch, you got your answer. And you see this 487 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: at the federal level. You see at the state level, 488 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: two states didn't pass laws usually. I mean, I can't 489 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: look at it. I don't know every fifty all fifty states. 490 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: But they came down with whether it was mask mandates 491 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: or any number of things, it was just an executive 492 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: branch that decision. And what they're doing is they're effectively 493 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: relying in a lot of places on the health authorities 494 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: that they have, and they have basic regulatory power to 495 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: make sure that you know, there aren't mice crawling around 496 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: in the in the you know, in the food at 497 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: your local restaurant or something, right, so they'll inspect kitchens. 498 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: They do this in New York City. They've expanded that 499 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: now to be well, because we think that equity during 500 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: COVID has been affected, we're going to extend this was 501 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: the CDC at the federal level. We're going to extend 502 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: in eviction moratorium because we say so you know this 503 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: is you're getting way far from where the founding fathers 504 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: actually intended these things to be. That one, that much 505 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: is clear. Robert Real, quicken Waldorf, Maryland. Before we come 506 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: back in a moment, what's up, Robert, Well, gentlemen, I 507 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: don't think we can anymore sit here and exclude the 508 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: Republican Party for all the problems we're having today. I mean, 509 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: if you just want to look back at history, in 510 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: eighteen forty five of them retired basically surrendering the House 511 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: of Representatives to the Democrats, which quotes unleas holy hell 512 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: on Trump at Peachman, et cetera, et cetera. Now you've 513 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: got thirteen of them and just handed Pelosi a win. 514 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: You had nineteen of them to vote it to Bill 515 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: over there in the Senate. I mean, so you know 516 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy allowed those votes to take place, Scalise allowed those 517 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: votes to take place. The Republican Party, they are the 518 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: problem there. You had these and they're allowing all this 519 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: stuff to take place. They're not fighting for us, and 520 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: these are the people that need to be fought against. 521 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: You need to go after them with the same for 522 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: rock ferocity that we went out in Virginia. But that's 523 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: where the battle has to be in the primaries, because 524 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: you can no longer sit there Buck And are you 525 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: guys sitting over here on Fox kissing the Republicans? But 526 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: on TV, these are the guys that are undermined. I 527 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: don't work you keep kissing the Republican party. Look, the 528 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: reality is I think the thirteen in the House now, 529 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: based on everything that I have heard, Kevin McCarthy requested 530 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: that those thirteen Republicans wait and see whether Democrats had 531 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: the votes to actually pass the infrastructure before they cast 532 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: their own votes. They refuse to do that. The Republicans, 533 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: the thirteen in the House gambled that by passing infrastructure 534 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: there would not be a big bud J bill that 535 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: will also come down the pike. Were they right or not? 536 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: That was a big wager. And I think it's certainly 537 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: valid for all of you who live in those thirteen 538 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: Republican districts to decide to support somebody in a Republican 539 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: primary who says, specifically, I would not have voted for 540 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: the infrastructure. In the meantime, born from the tragedy of 541 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: nine to eleven, the tone of the Towers Foundation has 542 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: been honoring America's heroes ever since. 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For the first time, our country 548 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: recognized the people we lost to nine eleven related illnesses 549 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: through the Foundation's name reading ceremony, and in another first, 550 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: those lost in the War on Terror will have their 551 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: names read allowed this Veteran's Day this Thursday at a 552 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: special ceremony. Now the Foundations bringing hope to heroes and 553 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: their families, giving away at home a day from Thanksgiving 554 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: to New Year's Eve? Buck, how can people out there 555 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: support them? 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We're gonna talk to Senator in just a 574 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: few minutes about the immigration, illegal immigration issue, these flights 575 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: at night with migrant children and the Biden four fifty 576 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: k per individual separated the border, all that stuff, plus 577 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 1: the future of the Biden Built Back Better agenda as 578 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: they're calling it, and uh and so much more. But Clay, 579 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: it's some pretty big stuff coming down here on the 580 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse front. You know, we talked about this a 581 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: little bit last week that trial is going on up 582 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, so we actually could ask Ron Johnson about it. Well. 583 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: But the Kyle Rittenhouse trial now has a an audio 584 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: moment that we're loading in right now for the show. 585 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: Will come to it maybe in the next hour if 586 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: we don't have it right now, but it does seem 587 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: that there is at least pretty we you and I 588 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: have heard the audio. Yeah, essentially one of the guys 589 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: admits under questioning that you know that he shot that 590 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse shot in self defense because somebody was pointing 591 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: a gun at him him. They have For everybody out there, 592 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: we told you last week that essentially this case was 593 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: going to come down to was this legitimate self defense 594 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: or not. And there were two men who were shot 595 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: and killed. There was another man who was shot and survived, 596 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: and the man who shot and survived just on the 597 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: witness hand, on the witness stand, acknowledged that the reason 598 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: why he was shot was because he was pointing a 599 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: gun at Kyle Rittenhouse. Now, for people out there who 600 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: may not be paying a lot of attention, this is 601 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: the Kenosha, Wisconsin riots. This seventeen year old kid, Kyle 602 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse was out in the streets on that night in 603 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: question claims that he was shot at and threatened for 604 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: his life and fired back as a result. And the 605 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: surviving member here of the people that is on the 606 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: trial right now, just admit on the witness stand that 607 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: he was Pope pointing a weapon at Kyle Rittenhouse when 608 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse fired one of his attackers, I mean, this person 609 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: attacked him. This is on video too, So this is 610 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: one of these things where the initial exchange they don't 611 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: have quite the same degree of clarity in the video 612 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: the first shooting. But what happened was there was this 613 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: mob and they became enraged at Rittenhouse, and he had 614 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: a semi automatic rifle it looks like an AAR fifteen, 615 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: and they run at him and they physically attack him, 616 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: and one of them has a gun. One of his 617 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: attackers has a gun in his hand, the one that 618 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: we're now talking about who came forward in court and said, yeah, 619 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: I pointed my gun at him. If someone can point 620 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: a gun at you when you have a gun while 621 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: they are attacking you, and you cannot shoot that person 622 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: in self defense, there is no such thing as self defense. 623 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: This is about as clear and instance. Again, assuming that 624 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: all the fact. But the facts aren't really in dispute 625 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: at least about this incident. Here. We've got the audio. 626 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: Listen to this. This is as close as you can get, 627 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: basically to a few good men in a courtroom that 628 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: you can't hand to the truth moment. This is the 629 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: one of the men who was shot by Kyle Rittenhouse 630 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: on the stand. Listen carefully. This basically is there's a 631 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: picture by the way of the prosecution, the attorney with 632 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: his hand in his with his face in his hands, 633 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: right after this answer. But listen, that's a photo of you. Yes, yes, okay, Um, 634 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: that's mister Rittenhouse. Correct, okay, Now you agree your firearm 635 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: is pointed at mister Rittenhouse. Correct, yes, okay. And once 636 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: your firearm is pointed at mister m that's when he fires. Yes, no, stain, Look, 637 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to Does this look like right now 638 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: your arm is being shot. That looks like my bfeet 639 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: being vaporized. Yes, okay. And it's being vaporized as your 640 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: pointing your gun directly at him. Yes, yes, okay. So 641 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: when you were standing three to five from him with 642 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: your arms up in the air, he never fired. Great, 643 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: correct it wasn't until you pointed your gun at him advanced, 644 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: not him with your gun now your hands down, pointed 645 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: at him, that he fired. Correct, he ordered the code 646 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: of red clay. He ordered the code read he's saying, 647 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: and he's saying it under under oath right now. I mean, 648 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,479 Speaker 1: you can't have a situation like this where you where 649 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: you point a gun at somebody and not expect them 650 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: to defend themselves. I mean, this guy's basically saying I 651 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: got shot. He has to admit because they have video. 652 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: If they didn't have a video, he would obviously say 653 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, I was pointing a gun at him. 654 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: What else is there to say? This is where the 655 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: defense attorney should turn to the judge and ask for 656 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: a sidebar conference and say, your honor, you're accusing my 657 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: client of murder here and also of an assault. This is, 658 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: by the words of this man himself, clear self defense, 659 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: like he has now testified under oath that he was 660 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: pointing a weapon at my client when he fired. This 661 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: is not even something that a jury should get to decide. 662 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: By matter of law. There is no crime that occurred, 663 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: at least in the shooting of the man who was 664 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: armed and pointing a gun. This is what I said 665 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: last week. And to me, you look at the video, 666 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: you look at the facts of the case. It's not 667 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: as much that Kyle Rittenhouse should be found not guilty. 668 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: It's that Kyle Rittenhouse should never have had to go 669 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: to trial because the prosecutors shouldn't have brought the case, 670 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: at least a case of of you know, you know, 671 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: involuntary manslaughter or whatever the charges are. Shouldn't have brought 672 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: the case in the first place. And when you get 673 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: a moment like that, well, that shooting certainly looks like 674 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: it's not going to be any fair minded jury. But 675 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: do we have a fair minded jury? Clay Well, I mean, 676 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: that's my argument. That's my argument, Buck, this is not 677 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: even a question for a jury, because it's now a 678 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: question of the law. When somebody says, I was pointing 679 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: a gun at you, you have the right to use something. 680 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: Do you think that judge is going to step in? 681 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: Though unlikely, We'll see we're coming up. You're listening to 682 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: Clay Travis, said Sexton on the EIB Network.