1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan in 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are going to talk 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: about the biggest news items of the week as well 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: as preview this huge Sunday night football game between the 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: Ravens and Bills at M and T Banks Stadium for 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: our Darkness Falls game, which is going to be super fun. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: But first, Garrett, you know, this is a big game. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: A lot of people, a lot of eyes on this one, 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: a lot of talk this week leading up to this game. 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: Bills are three and zero. They have the best point 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: differential in the NFL. When you look at the power rankings, 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: as I'm sure you pour over the power rankings every 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: single week, Garrett, you know it's the Bills or the 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs at the top of those power rankings right now. 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: And so this is a really good team, probably better 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: than team than people expected, considering they had a lot 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: of free agency losses coming here to Baltimore against this 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Ravens team that is now riding a big win from Dallas. 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. And also the other part with the Bills is 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: they're coming off this game or they just looked unstoppable 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: against Jackson. 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: Dismantled the Jaguars. 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: They playing a national TV game and they look awesome 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: on Monday Night Football and completely dominated that game. So 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: you're three and zero and the last time people saw 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: you as a national televised game where you looked unbeatable. 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: So the Ravens should have looked that way in Dallas, 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: but it got a little too tight. 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they looked that way for about three quarters and 30 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about that. But so so, the 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: Bills are definitely one of these teams that the Ravens 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: are looking at as this is a really good, I think, 33 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: litmus tests for where the Ravens stand at this point 34 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: of the season. And it's going to be a really 35 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: tough opponent because I think one thing that was interesting 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: to me actually was that the Ravens were actually are 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: actually favored in this game m hm. And I think 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: that that speaks to a couple of different things. One 39 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 3: of it is certainly the confidence that I guess Vegas 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: has in the Ravens and the talent that this team 41 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: has Vegas. But also, you know, the Ravens have been 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: excellent at home in prime time, so all that stuff 43 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: is part of the factor that goes into this game. 44 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: And The Ravens are just a good team, right, I mean, 45 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: record aside, they're sure they're one and two, right, but 46 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: I think they proved in Dallas what they certainly can be. 47 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: And you know, they have their flaws right now, as 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: we've discussed, and we'll discuss more. But these are just 49 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: two really good teams that even before the season started, 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: coming into the year, you would have said, oh yeah, 51 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Ravens Bills Chiefs, Yep, those are gonna be the ones 52 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: that are contending for the AFC title, you know. 53 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: And it's interesting though, to your point, like you made 54 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: the point, I think a lot of people thought that 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: the Bills might fall off a little bit. Stefan Diggs, 56 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: who've been such a good player there for so many years. 57 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: He's now in Houston. They've lost some other key players 58 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: on defense on that team, so like they've taken some hits. Michael, Yeah, 59 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: they've lost some key players on that team. And I 60 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: think that maybe the external feeling around that team was like, 61 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: maybe this is a step back season for them, and 62 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: early on it absolutely does not look that way. 63 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 4: They look as good as effort. 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Well, these two teams have two guys under center that 65 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: are really good. You know and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, 66 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: they're both guys that can put a game on their 67 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: shoulders and no matter who they have around them, who's 68 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: blocking for them, who they're throwing to, when the balls 69 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: in their hands, you got a good shot. And I 70 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: think that that's some of what we've seen from both 71 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: of these teams early in the season. 72 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, now when we're talking about this game, of course, 73 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: it's primetime game is Sunday night football. You mentioned darkness 74 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: falls by the way, if you're going to if you're 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 3: going to the game where black teams in all black, 76 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: so where your black gear, you're your Black Ravens jersey, 77 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: and get in early, get into your seat by eight 78 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: o'clock so that you see all the intros. 79 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 4: Playing at M and T. 80 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: Bak Stadium in a primetime game as an opponent is 81 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: tougher than anywhere else in the NFL, and. 82 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: The numbers back that up. 83 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: During John Harball's ten year as head coach, which started 84 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight, the Ravens have played twenty 85 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: three home primetime games. During that stretch, they are twenty 86 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: and three. That is by far the best winning percentage 87 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: in the NFL. Seattle second at seven to seventy four. 88 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Right, everybody likes to talk about twolf Man and see 89 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: out on how tough it is there, which it is. 90 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tougher here in the twenty three games. In 91 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: these twenty three home primetime games, the Ravens have a 92 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty seven positive. The scoring differential is 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty seven points in the Ravens favor right, 94 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: So like they have pretty much dominated these a lot of. 95 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: Them haven't been close. 96 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's now does that is that going to 97 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: be a factor in this game? You know, obviously what 98 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: you've done in the past doesn't necessarily apply at all. 99 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: It's Sunday, But I think it speaks to the challenge 100 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: of the environment that teams come into during these games. 101 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it, you know, there's just something 102 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: to it. Like anybody that's I agree with what John 103 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Harwall said this week, anybody that's been at M and 104 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: T Bank Stadium for one of these primetime games knows 105 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Like the energy in there, the feeling, 106 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: the just it's something different. 107 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: It really is. 108 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: It's hard to describe, but it is just electric. And 109 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: I think that you know, not to pat ourselves on 110 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: the back, but like, you know, our team here on 111 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: the business side, like puts on a pretty darn good 112 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: show and on the football side, like the players talked 113 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: about it this week, there is a different juice level. 114 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: You know, when you're. 115 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Playing these games at home, you're wearing the all black 116 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: uniforms that they love. Uh, you know, the lights go out, 117 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: you got Lamar's intro waving the towel over his head. 118 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: Like it's different. 119 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: And and I think that all plays into you know, 120 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: and typically, you know, the Ravens, you get a good 121 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: team that you're going against, and the Ravens usually get 122 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: pretty sharp when they're going against the top competition. 123 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: They play their best. 124 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: And uh, not to mention the Ravens have just been 125 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: a good team for a long since two thousand and eight. 126 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: You talk about winning percentages, the Ravens just point blank, 127 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: anywhere they've gone, they've had a good winning percentage. 128 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: Even better winning percentage at home exactly. 129 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Just but it's better. It is better, Like there is 130 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: something to it. 131 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's just that's like cherry pickstat 132 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: like it's real and uh, and I expect that to 133 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: be the same case on Sunday night. 134 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. 135 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: I think that all those things play into it to 136 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 3: a certain degree. And you've seen over the past couple 137 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: of years there really be more of an appreciation for 138 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: how good the atmosphere is at MT BAG City. And 139 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: you see Pat McAfee talking about it, you see Taylor 140 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: Lawan talking about it, Travis Kelcey talking about it. Like 141 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: There's been a lot of guys, prominent players or media 142 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: players turned media personalities who have spoken to just what 143 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: that atmosphere is and it's gonna be that way on Sunday. Now. 144 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: Once the game starts, I think it kind of becomes 145 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: a game, like all that stuff is pregame, But I 146 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: think that you ride the emotion of that a little bit, 147 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: especially early in the game. 148 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: For sure. 149 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can feel that that emotion and if. 150 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: You're in the press box waving your towel, give me 151 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: a town, right, as I said, cash there. 152 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, gonna go buy a black suit. 153 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: A couple of days to make that happen. 154 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, we can do that. 155 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that the players definitely feed off 156 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: the energy from the home crowd. 157 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. 158 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: So in terms of some of the big talking points 159 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: for this game of the news of the week, and 160 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: then we're going to dive into some of the specifics 161 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: of this game. One of the big talking points going 162 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: into this has been Justin Tucker. 163 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and. 164 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: We have not discussed really ever during his tenure Tucker struggling. 165 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: This is uncharted territory. But he's missed a kick in 166 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: each of the last three games and it's surprising. And 167 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: so Justin did talk with reporters on Wednesday and discuss 168 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: his mindset, his approach, the technical issue that John Harwall 169 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: talked about on Monday that's causing these miskicks. What was 170 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: your takeaway after hearing what Justin had to say in 171 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: his time with reporters. 172 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he acknowledged the mental side of it 173 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: and said, you know, it's particularly difficult for a kicker 174 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: as opposed to any other player. Right, Like you're a 175 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver and you drop a ball, Okay, you might 176 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: get the ball on the very next play, Yeah, you can. 177 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: You can erase that very quickly. For a kicker. 178 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: You just gotta wait, right and you're just sitting there 179 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: and if you know, in the case of this Dallas game, 180 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker misses that kick and then he's watching that 181 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys kind of rally off of that right and 182 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: go down and score touchdowns and the Scoes tightning, and 183 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: he's it just makes you feel worse and worse and 184 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: worse and worse, right, And so you know, he acknowledged 185 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: that that this is this is a challenge mentally for 186 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: a kicker, and you're not going to get through it 187 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: until you make some kicks. But you know, he told 188 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: our guy Clifton Brown that like, basically, you have to 189 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: check in with yourself mentally, where's my confidence at and 190 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: my confident? 191 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 192 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: Okay, done? Check right, And like you can't dwell on it. 193 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: You can't keep like, am I confident? Am I still confident? 194 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: Next day? Next morning? Am I confident? 195 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: Today? 196 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: Nah? You just got to be like, am I still 197 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: a dude? Yes? Okay, let's go. 198 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and that's that's a challenge, right, And 199 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: uh so I think that he's dealing with that as 200 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: well as you know, the technical aspects of cleaning up 201 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: his kicks. 202 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: There's a few things I'll say about Justin. He is 203 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: always and we've talked about this before he operates differently 204 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: than most kickers. He's somebody who is the loudest in 205 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: the locker room. He's obviously no has no issue being 206 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: the center of attention on or off the field. And 207 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 3: not every kicker, not every specialist, is like that. And 208 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: so he is always someone who's been comfortable in the 209 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: spotlight and holds his own In a locker room full 210 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: of big personalities, he might be the biggest. And I 211 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: think that that has always served him well, and I 212 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: think that speaks to his confidence. And when I when 213 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: I heard from Justin this week, indicated to me like 214 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: his confidence is not shaken, which is really important. And 215 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: I don't think it's just I don't think he's just 216 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: blowing a smoke. I think that he's sincere and he's 217 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: still very confident, and I think that so that's good. 218 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: Like the other part of it, too, is he's not hiding, 219 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: you know. He he talked reporters for like fifteen minutes 220 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: in the locker. 221 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: Room, multiple rounds. 222 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 4: Love exactly. 223 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: And sometimes when a guy is struggling, they avoid the 224 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: locker room when the media is in there because they 225 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: don't want to get the questions, or they do it 226 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: begrudgingly and they'll get a couple of questions and they 227 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: get out of there. Like Justin kind of held court 228 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: in there as a bunch of pelete it's a bunch 229 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: of reporters came up and talked to him for multiple 230 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: rounds and answered all the tough questions. So I just 231 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: don't think that he I don't think he's running from it. 232 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that his confidence is shaken, and I 233 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: think that his persona and attitude I think he has 234 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: served him well throughout his career. I go back to 235 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: when he was in the competition with Billy Kundiff as 236 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 3: a rookie, and Billy Kundiff, who was coming off a 237 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: bad miss at that point, but he was a pro 238 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: Bowl kicker, like don't let's not forget that, and Justin 239 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: would kind of trash talk during practices and he carried 240 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: himself in a way that caught a lot of people's attention. 241 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: And I think that that mentality has always been part 242 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 3: of who he is, and even in the midst of 243 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: the struggle, I don't think that that is going to change, 244 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: and I think that will help him get out of this. 245 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: I agree in terms of what the technical issue is 246 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: he didn't go in the specifics, but he's he did 247 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: say this to to Cliff, He said, I didn't finish 248 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: directly at my target line. I made the same air, 249 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: which is highly correctable. But I made the same air 250 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: a couple of times. So, you know, to our point 251 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: when we were discussing during the Film Breakdown podcast, like 252 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: they know what the issue is, and I remain confident 253 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: just as Justin does that that's something that they can 254 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: definitely correct. Like Justin Tucker still has a great leg 255 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: all the you know, he also made it a point 256 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: to say the misses are on me. You know, it's 257 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: not on Jordan Stout, It's not on Nick Moore, you know, 258 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: it's on me and another respectable you know, thing for 259 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: him to do kind of to your point about answering 260 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: all the tough questions, like whenever he says the makes 261 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: are us the misses or me? And so you have 262 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: to respect that about Justin. And I think that those 263 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: three guys will certainly get through this. It's gonna take 264 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: some makes, it's gonna take him knocking down some and 265 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: then I think once he does that, this will all be, 266 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, we'll we'll forget that this conversation even happened. 267 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in like the crowd or whatever, there'll 268 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: be some if he goes out there on Sunday for 269 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: a fifty two yard field goal, there's gonna be some 270 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: nervous energy amongst fans as that happens. 271 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 4: And maybe maybe maybe for him as well. But I 272 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: think that. 273 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: I think that he again will have the He has 274 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: the ability and still has the mindset and certainly the 275 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 3: talent to overcome that, and I think he will. I 276 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: think that by the end of the season. I don't 277 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: think the conversation will. I don't think we're gonna be 278 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: talking about the field goal unit much at the end 279 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: of the season. And like a concerning way. 280 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 281 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: So another kind of talking point this week was the 282 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: Ravens in the fourth quarter, right, That was a big 283 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: talking point after the game. How do you avoid these 284 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: fourth quarter lapses when you have a big lead. What's 285 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: the key both sides of the ball. Lamar was asked 286 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: about it this week, and it is clear that it 287 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 3: is something that he he despises. He does not want 288 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: to give up a late lead, and he really looks 289 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: at it like he looks at it from the offensive standpoint, 290 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: talk about not pointing the finger. He looks at it 291 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 3: from the offensive standpoint, like, now we shouldn't be out 292 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: there like running clock. We need to be putting up points, 293 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: and that needs to be what we're focused on, Like 294 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: we need to go out there and build off that lead, 295 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 3: keep putting up points. If the clock keeps running, that's 296 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 3: a nice If you put up points and the clock running, 297 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: that's that's the perfect scenario. But it's clear that giving 298 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: up those late leads is something that irks him, and 299 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: he is focused on that offense not allowing that to happen. 300 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't really think the offense was 301 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: much to blame. I agree for the laps in Dallas, 302 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: you know. I mean they in the fourth quarter, they 303 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: drove down for a field goal attempt, they had one 304 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: three and out, but then the muffed on sidekick, and 305 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: then they closed the game out, so that the offense 306 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: ultimately did its job. Did it score a lot of points, No, 307 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: but they were in field goal range. They should have 308 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: gotten at least three. Yeah, and so you know that, 309 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: I again think that's respectable of Lamar Jackson not to 310 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: kind of throw the defense under the bus. 311 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: You know, I think two. 312 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: It's it's definitely a talking point in the defensive meeting 313 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: rooms when you go back and watch. It wasn't like 314 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: they were super super passive. They were in coverage somewhat, 315 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: but they blitzed you know that they dag or blitzed 316 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: several times during that fourth quarter. Kyle Hamilton I thought 317 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: was was kind of interesting. You know, he's like, basically, 318 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: he's kind of saying, everybody focuses on the times when 319 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: you don't you don't close it out defensively. Like we've 320 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: had some games going back to next year, the Lions 321 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: game last year when they just absolutely smoked them from 322 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: start to finish. You know, they've they've had games where 323 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: they close them out. But he's like, nobody focused on this. 324 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: They only focus on the ones that you lose. 325 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of the nature that it's kind of 326 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: like the conversation we have with Ryane Sanley this week 327 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: on the podcast where you can passblot great for thirty 328 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: five plays, you give up a strip sack on one 329 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: of them. 330 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: You had a terrible day. 331 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: And you watch you watch around the NFL and like 332 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: these fourth quarter scoring fests or no, that's not reserved 333 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: just to the Ravens, right, like this is kind of 334 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: how NFL games often go, right, and I and I 335 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: kind of wonder, you know, do offenses by the time 336 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter rolls around, like have they kind of 337 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: figured it out right, like what you're trying to do 338 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: to them defensively and they kind of catch up a 339 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: little bit. 340 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: It's like a picture in the seventh inning. 341 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly right, like the batting or he's gone 342 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: through the batting or a few times exactly they know 343 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: what he's throwing exactly. Maybe, Like I'm just saying, like 344 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: when you compare it around the you do see a 345 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: lot of fourth quarter scoring. It seems like all of 346 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, those offenses figure it out. Now, with all 347 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: that said, you look at the Ravens point differential quarters 348 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: one through three and then the fourth, like they're more 349 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: than doubling up teams. Since the beginning of last season, 350 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: you're beginning of twenty twenty three and the start of 351 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, they've scored more than twice as many 352 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: points as their opponents in quarters one through three, and 353 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: in quarters four they have a negative point differential. Yeah, 354 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: So like to I understand what Kyle Hamilton's saying, but 355 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: there is something to it, right, Like the Ravens have 356 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: not been particularly strong in the fourth quarter of these games, yep, 357 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: so it needs to get corrected. And to what you 358 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: were saying before, Like Lamar Jackson was pretty clear when 359 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey came up to him on the plane on 360 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: the flight back from Dallas and he's doing his you know, 361 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: victory Instagram live and he's like. 362 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: Hey, Lamar, what do you got to say to the people? 363 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: Lamar's like, Nah, I'm not falling around today, right, I 364 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: don't want the camera on me. I'm not sitting here 365 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: high five and on the plane. I'm still angry, you know. 366 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: He said he was not happy about the way that 367 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: game ended. So that gives you a look into Lamar 368 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Jackson's mentality. 369 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Lamar has always kind of been 370 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: that way where if a game ends and he doesn't 371 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 3: feel like he, individually or the offense do what they should, 372 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: like in his mind, like, you got to do what 373 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: you're supposed to do, and that's continue to put up 374 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: points and put the game away and keep your foot 375 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 3: on the gas whatever metaphor you want to use, Like 376 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: that's the way that he views it, and so if 377 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: you don't do that, he's going to be sour about 378 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: the fact that the team collectively wasn't able to do that. 379 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 3: And I think that you saw that in that video, 380 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: and I think that that's he kind of carried that 381 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: same mindset during his time with the media on Wednesday, 382 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: where he basically made the point like, Yeah, we shouldn't 383 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: be giving up leads, we shouldn't be as an offense 384 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: having success the first three quarters and not in the fourth. 385 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: Like that's the way that he looks at it. 386 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: And so I the part of the challenge here. 387 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: It's similar to the Tucker conversation, Like there's the mental aspect, 388 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: there's the there's the technique aspect, and the scheme aspect 389 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: and x is and like all of that. So it's like, 390 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 3: is this a mental thing where you get to the 391 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: fourth quarter and you and you get frazzled by the moment, 392 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: or is this there's specific technique things that are happening 393 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: that you need to do Differently, I think that probably 394 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: it leans more in that direction over the mental thing. 395 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: But I don't think the mental element of it is zero. 396 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: I think there's there's a component of it, and I 397 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: think what the Ravens are really focused on is trying 398 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: to clean up the technical things, look at what they 399 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: can do as players and his coaches to do things 400 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: differently to ensure that they're not giving up these leads. 401 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. 402 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: Then last thing for me is, you know, obviously the 403 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: primetime matchup here is Lamar versus Josh Allen. As you mentioned, 404 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: these are two of the best quarters in the league 405 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: squaring off, and I thought that it was interesting this 406 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: week hearing from both guys and again gives you a 407 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: glimpse into Lamar Jackson's psyche. You know. Lamar I asked 408 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: him the question of do these these matchups against other 409 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks, like what do they do for you? You know, 410 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: like do you really treasure these kind of games? 411 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: And he was just like, you knew what you were 412 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: gonna get, was like answer he was gonna get? 413 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: He was like nah, you know, and it's just funny. 414 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: He's just like, I don't care who we're playing. I 415 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 2: really don't. I don't care about the quarterback on the 416 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: other side. I just want to win. 417 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because this is like who he is, 418 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, like in Week one, before the Chiefs game, 419 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: people were like, Hey, are you and Pat Mohoe's friends 420 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: And he's like nah. And he was like do you 421 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: take anything from his game? 422 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: And he was like nah. 423 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: And you know, like he the only quarterback that I've 424 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: seen Lamar really give flowers to is Tom Brady. Yeah, right, 425 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: the goat And he'll he'll he'll, you know, rave about 426 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the chance seven Super Bowls and how 427 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: he thinks he's the best and all that stuff. But 428 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: like his peers currently playing, he's not. He's not out 429 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: here to gush about them. You know. 430 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: He respects him. 431 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he said that about Mahomes and I'm sure 432 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: he feels that way about Josh Allen this week. He 433 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: respects him, but like he is not gonna sit here 434 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: and build up this matchup and talk about how great 435 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: they are and all that stuff. On the flip side, 436 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen couldn't stop saying great things about Olamar Jackson, 437 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, and and how he really revers how all 438 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: the criticism that he's taken over his career, and how 439 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: he's persevered and and how he's changed the game. And 440 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: he feels like quarterbacks around the league play differently because 441 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: of Lamar and you know how kids look up to 442 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: him across the country, and and you know how he 443 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: loves him and loves watching him and all this stuff. 444 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: And he was going on and on, and it's just 445 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: so funny to compare and contrast these guys in the 446 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: way they look at a matchup between them. 447 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: I think Lamar has I really believe this with him. 448 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: He has said this many times. It's not I'm not 449 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: even on the field with Josh Allen. I'm not even 450 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: on that We're not even in. 451 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: The field together. 452 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: The same applies for Josh Allen and Lamar, I know, 453 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: but that he talks about it very different, but he 454 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: does it. 455 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: That's just how he operates. He has never looked at 456 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: it as like this is not a me verus Josh 457 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: Allen game. I just think he has never viewed it 458 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: that way. And he's been asked whenever there's a big 459 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: matchup of quarterbacks, mahomes Allen probably at the top of 460 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: that list, Burrow, but like he has never builded up 461 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: as like he you know, the hype, the hype trailer 462 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: that they're gonna do before the game on Sunday night 463 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 3: on NBC, like they're gonna show these two guys, or 464 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: they're gonna put the two of them on the graphic. 465 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna put their stats next to each other. 466 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: That's how it goes. That's how the NFL works. But 467 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: like Lamar has never played into that. He's never gonna 468 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: give you the voiceover track that you want for that trailer, 469 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: because hey, it's just not how he is. He doesn't 470 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: see the game that way. And he also like he's 471 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: trying to beat these guys. And so I think that 472 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: that kind of is part of his psyche when it 473 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: comes to talking about his opponents, like he's not going 474 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: to go out of his way. 475 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: The respect is there. That's always been clear with him. 476 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: He never he never bashes opponents, but he just is like, 477 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm trying to beat these guys. And I think that 478 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: that's the way that he he looks at it. He 479 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: looks at it more from I'm going up against the 480 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: Bill's defense. Josh Allen's going up against our defense, and 481 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: all my focus is is scoring, putt up a bunch 482 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: of points and making it really hard on them. 483 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: I think it's also because Lamar's just one of one. 484 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: Like Lamar just operates his own way. 485 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: All the time. 486 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: He never deviates from that, right, So, like he's never 487 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: going to like put on this fake like, yeah, you know, 488 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: this matchup is really cool, it's great for fans and 489 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and like do like the typical quarterback 490 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: dance around this kind of thing. He just he's just 491 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: like he just wants to win badly. He wants to 492 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: play well, and he doesn't care how that comes off. 493 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just He's just himself at all times. And 494 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: I and I love that about Lamar. He's one hundred 495 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: percent genuine. 496 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is, though, what's so interesting 497 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: for fans and for those on the outside, And even 498 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: John Harball and Kyle Van Noyd talked about this, they're like, yeah, 499 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: for us, like these are the kind of matchups and 500 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: the kind of games that you remember for the rest 501 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: of your life. And and maybe when Lamar you know, 502 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: is sitting on his front porch at seventy years old 503 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: and reminiscent about the good old days, he'll talk about this, right, 504 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: like maybe his perspective will change. 505 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: Then it probably will, right, Actually, I'm not so sure 506 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: it will retrospect. 507 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure he'll be like, did I beat 508 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: him or not, you know, but like for the rest 509 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: of us, you know, when we're looking back on these days, 510 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: like we'll remember these highlight matchups right between two great 511 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in their prime. And Van Noi talked about, you know, 512 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: Brady and Aaron Rodgers and being part of that and 513 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: how he'll look back on that. And John Harball even 514 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, these are the games you remember, you know, 515 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: when to of the best go toe to toe. 516 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 517 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: And what's interesting about it is that like the similarities 518 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: between Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, there's a lot of them, right, 519 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: like just their backstories and kind of where they're at 520 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: in their careers. Right. I mean, here's two guys that 521 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: were very much doubted coming out in that twenty eighteen 522 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: draft class. Right. Josh Allen was very much doubted about 523 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: can he be accurate enough? He has this this you know, 524 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: really strongest canon for an arm but can he kind 525 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: of tame it? Can he be accurate enough in the NFL? 526 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: And or is he just too reckless and wild? You know, 527 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: Lamar obviously the questions about whether his running hybrid style 528 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: can translate to the NFL. 529 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: And then you know, they've. 530 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Both proven it earlier in their careers that yes, they're 531 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: gonna be they're gonna be very good, They're gonna be 532 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: all right, you know, and and quickly become two of 533 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in the league. Lamar a winning at 534 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: MVP in his first season full season as a full 535 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: time starter. But both haven't gotten over the hump yet, 536 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: right because a guy named Patrick Mahomes who's beating them 537 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: both in the playoffs. He beat Lamar in the AFC 538 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: Championship game. He beat Josh Allen in the AFC Championship Game. 539 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: A few years back. 540 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: I think it's actually wasn't you know it was AFC 541 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: Championship game. 542 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: Yes, And Josh beat Lamar in the divisional playoffs, right, So, like, 543 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: these are two guys that are both kind of you know, 544 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: in the court of public opinion, when you rank the 545 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: top quarterbacks, it's Homes at the top, and then it's 546 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Lamar jocking right. And you can win 547 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: all the individual accolades, you can win the passing, you know, 548 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: you can throw for the most yards in the league 549 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but until you beat Mahomes, you're 550 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: not gonna get past them. And both those guys are 551 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: knocking on that door, and so it's just, you know, 552 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: both have this kind of hunger about them and that 553 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: makes I think this storyline even more interesting against this game. 554 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: And you like set it up that way. 555 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 3: You talk about the quarterback matchups and where they rank 556 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: and how they stack up, you know, quarterback ranking wise, 557 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 3: all this stuff. But again, Lamar, like, I really don't 558 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 3: think he any of that is on his mind. 559 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: Zero of that. 560 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's he's just like he's He was asked 561 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: specifically about that whether he gets tired of his whole 562 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: quarterback ranking, and he was like, I mean, I know 563 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: that they happen, you know, I'm not like he's on 564 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: social media. He knows people do this all the time. 565 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: But he says like, yeah, I don't care. That's just 566 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: been going on for forever. 567 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 3: And will and it will see you that way. And 568 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: he just he just he looks at things from a 569 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: very much more like specific stance, I think than how's 570 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 3: this game gonna affect my legsi? You know, and the 571 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: broader question, well, all that is fun and exciting, and 572 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: it's part of what makes this specific game so great. 573 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: That's why when they were making. 574 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 3: The schedule they said, let's put this on Sunday night 575 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: for four because this is one of the marquee matchups 576 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: in the league with two of the best players. But 577 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: I just don't think Lamar really buys into that, and 578 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 3: I think that that approach has really worked for him, 579 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: and I think that that's part of what makes him 580 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 3: who he is. So let's take a quick break. When 581 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 3: we come back, we'll dive into some of the specifics 582 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 3: on how the Ravens can stop Josh Allen and slow 583 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 3: down this potent Bills offense. You're listening to the Lounge podcast. 584 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: We're coming to you from the Seakeek Studio. We also 585 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: want to give a shout out to our friendst Draftking 586 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: sports Book. They are an official sports betting partner of 587 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens DraftKings sportsbook. The Crown is yours. We 588 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 3: were just talking about Josh Allen. He's thrown for six 589 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty four passing yards, seven touchdowns, zero interceptions, 590 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: and also has two rushing touchdowns. 591 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: So he's been great. 592 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the interesting thing, there's a lot of 593 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: interesting things about Josh Allen this season. You know. The 594 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: reputation is this is kind of a wild, reckless dude 595 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: who's turned the ball over too much in previous seasons 596 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: and you know, either via interception or fumble, and that's 597 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: kind of been his Achilles skill and that's the way 598 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: to get him well, zero interception so far, right. And 599 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: on top of that, he hasn't been this rocket launcher 600 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: kind of guy that you usually think of, you know, 601 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: when you when you stack up the quarterbacks in terms 602 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: of air yards per attempt, you know, he's not he's 603 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: not throwing these bombs down the field. And I think 604 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: part of that is is because of his personnel and 605 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: even in passing yards, right, Like, I mean, he's sixteenth 606 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: in the league passing yards. You usually think Josh Allen, 607 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's gonna be top five. 608 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: He's sixteenth. 609 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's behind Lamar, He's behind a bunch of guys, right. 610 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: And so it's been you know, even though Josh Allen is, 611 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, nearer at the top of the MVP conversation 612 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: early this year, probably it hasn't been a Josh Allen 613 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: esque kind of season so far. 614 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: It He threw four touchdown passes against Jacksonville Monday night. Yeah, 615 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: so he's been really efficient. 616 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: I think that's the word. 617 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like that's not which that's the opposite of 618 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: what you think of with Josh Allen. I take it 619 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: like you think yeah, And back to my point earlier, 620 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: all the questions about him coming out in the draft, 621 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: like what you don't think about efficiency? You think he's 622 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: going to hit you for a big play at any time, Yeah, 623 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: in any moment, but he's going to turn the ball over, 624 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: And that's kind of the flip side. Well, it's been 625 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: very much the opposite so far this year for him. 626 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: I also think that they've been they've been aided. You know, 627 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: James Cook has been pretty good to open the season. 628 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: He's got three rushing touchdowns, one hundred and eighty eight 629 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: rushing yards. Not monster stats, but they have had a 630 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: pretty good running game. But Josh Allen can also run 631 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: incredibly well, and they're leaning on his lips. 632 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: They're continuing to do that. 633 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: And the other thing that's interesting about their passing game 634 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: is like they just don't have It was Stephan Diggs, 635 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: like Stefan Diggs was the marquee attraction of that passing 636 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: game for many years and now you look at the 637 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: receiving corps and it's like he's gone, and it's not 638 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: like the Who's who cast. They're in that receiving corps. 639 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: Everybody's getting a little piece of the action and he's 640 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: spreading it a wa around really well, and there's not 641 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: like when. 642 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 4: You're facing them. 643 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: It's no longer a case of all right, stop Stefan 644 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: Diggs first. 645 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: Completely, it's everybody in the mix. 646 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: Very balanced attack, and that's what the Ravens, you know, 647 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: aspired to be, as we've talked about with the pick 648 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: your poison. But you know, they only have one receiver 649 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: that's over one hundred receiving yards so far this year. 650 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: It's Khalil Shakir. He's been ultra efficient. He's caught every 651 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: pass that has come his way. 652 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: He's been very good. 653 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: But you know, one receiver of one hundred yards is 654 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: kind of shocking after three games. Yeah, that's that's odd, right, 655 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: And they have Dalton kin Kaid is a very talented 656 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: tight end who is coming off a. 657 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: Good game against Jacksonville. 658 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: You know, they have Keon Coleman, who is a very 659 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: high draft pick for them this year, and so you 660 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: know they have some talented guys. But Josh Allen is 661 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: doing a really good job of spreading the ball around. 662 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: So it's going to be a very different matchup from 663 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: the previous two weeks, right where Ceedee Lamb was obviously 664 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: the guy that he wanted to stop with the Cowboys, 665 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams was obvious, Slee the guy, or Shee Rice 666 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: was obviously the guy I mean Travis Kelcey also in 667 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City. But in terms of wide receivers, so it's 668 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: it's a different kind of challenge for the Ravens secondary 669 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: this week. 670 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the little interesting supply you got Keon Coleman, 671 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: who was a second round pick for the Bills. There's 672 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: a little buzz about him as a potential target for 673 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: the Ravens during the draft process that they decided to 674 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: go wide receiver early, they went cornerback. They went with 675 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: Nate Wakens of course in the first round, late in 676 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: the first round, and it'll be I'm sure that there 677 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: could be some players where Nate's matched up against Keon Coleman, 678 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: and so that'll be a good battle. 679 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 4: Of rookies there. 680 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, what hasn't changed about Josh Allen's game is that 681 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: he is still extremely hard to bring down, right, I mean. 682 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: This is a big, powerful, dude. 683 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I was comparing contrasting he and Lamar 684 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: both very dangerous with their legs in very different ways. 685 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: You know, Lamar will run past you. Josh Allen White 686 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: trying to run through you. 687 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he often does. 688 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: And so you know, you look at at how often 689 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: that even when people do get pressure, which opponents have 690 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: not gotten much pressure against this very tough Bills offensive line. 691 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: Even when they have, they've struggled to bring Josh Allen 692 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: down to the ground even more than in previous years. 693 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: So far this season, he's only been sacked twice. 694 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: This year, He's been sacked twice, which is the least 695 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: in the league, right among full time starters, right, So 696 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: that's crazy. 697 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: Two sacks in three games. Yeah, that's nutty. 698 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: So again, you know, a challenge for the Ravens secondary 699 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: and also for this pass rush that just added Yuneaton Docway, 700 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: who by the way, you know I talked to in 701 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: the locker room and he feels like I'm ready to 702 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: play right now. Put me in and uh, you know, 703 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see. This is the same 704 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: time that the Ravens side and Kyleve and noy last 705 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: year going into the. 706 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: New mL and find the guy. What did Kyle say? 707 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: It's the week four signing? Baby? 708 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 4: What was Kyle's quote last year? Balling off the couch 709 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 4: and off the couch? That's right? 710 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: And uh so the couch has another and you know 711 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: we we just had the sleeper sofa out. We got 712 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: another person that's jumping off there. And so you know, 713 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: can Yanik be that the bar is very high? Kylev 714 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: Any had nine sacks career high last year. I don't 715 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 1: know that we can sit here and expect you and 716 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: he can gooway to get nine sacks the rest of 717 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: the way. But can he provide some juice? 718 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 719 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: And you know John Harball was encouraged by what he 720 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: saw on the practice field on Wednesday, and so you know, 721 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: I think he can add something. But whether it be 722 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: O Way, you know, Ojabo, all these Ravens pass rushers 723 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: the defensive front, they're going to have a tough time 724 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: putting pressure on Josh Allen And with how efficient he's 725 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: been as a passer, it's a tough balance because if 726 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: you don't get to him, you know, he can carve 727 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: you up. 728 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kyle van Noy is going to be 729 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: an important player in this game. He's have four sacks 730 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: last two games, and he said this week that part 731 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: of it is just he's still he always has that 732 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: chip on his shoulder as a guy that's been doubted 733 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: and he continues to prove people wrong. And he was 734 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: on the couch last year. The league kind of forgot 735 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: about him, and then he had that big season and 736 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: so I think that I think he's going to be 737 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: an important player. And on Yanique, he's on the practice 738 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 3: squad right now, so in order for him to play, 739 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 3: the Braves would have to activate him. They could do 740 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 3: that three times. From a game day elevation standpoint, maybe 741 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: they do. That will probably be something that we find 742 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 3: that would be if that happens, that would happen on Saturday, So. 743 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,959 Speaker 4: Maybe he ends up playing. 744 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 3: But regardless of Yanique, this this pass rush, van Ney 745 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 3: and Oway, Like I start the conversation with those two. 746 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 2: Oh, for sure, those are your leading guys. 747 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 4: Like Yanique's exciting because he's new in the mix and 748 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 4: all that, but. 749 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: Like completely Way and Vana and mattab and you know 750 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: your interior pass rush as well. Uh, you know, Mada 751 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: led him in sacks last year, So that is certainly 752 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: a huge part of the equation. But yeah, all those 753 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: guys have their work cutout for him. The interesting thing 754 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: about the Ravens so far through three weeks is they 755 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: have not been blitzing at a super high rate. You know, 756 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: Zach orr Uh, we all thought, yeah, this is gonna 757 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: be one of the most you know, more aggressive guys. 758 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, how many times do we say just he 759 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: was aggressive as a player, and I'm sure that's how 760 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: he's going to be as a play caller. It hasn't 761 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: really been like that so far for him. So the challenge, 762 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 1: you know, how much do you want to pressure Josh Allen. 763 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: He has tore up the Blitz this season. First, according 764 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus, he has the best grade in 765 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: the league against the Blitz ninety two point seven. He's 766 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty five for two hundred ninety three passing 767 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: yards and six touchdowns against the Blitz this year. 768 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 4: Zach, it sounds like, maybe you don't want to blitz him. 769 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: Zach gord S blitz at the eighth lowest rate in 770 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: the league, So you know, yeah, it just makes me wonder, 771 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: do you drop back and coverage try to create muney 772 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: of those lanes and see if you can pick him 773 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: off a little bit more than what he's done so far. 774 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 3: Well, that also just means you need to have your 775 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: four man pressure, your base pressure package. You get to 776 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 3: him a BKA defensive line yep so. And then lastly, 777 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 3: you know, the Raves had a huge game on the 778 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 3: ground last week. Derek Hennery too, the rushing game as 779 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: a whole, two hundred seventyour rushing yards. The Bills rank 780 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: sixteenth in the league at stopping the run. I think that, 781 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 3: so it's not like they're the worst. I think they're 782 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: going to be better. Their defensive front is better than 783 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: what the Cowboys were last week, So I I think 784 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 3: that I'm not expecting two hundred and seventy yards, But 785 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 3: I do think that this could be another opportunity for 786 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 3: the running game to get rolling a little bit. And like, 787 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: this is truly one of these games in my mind, 788 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: where you use that to your advantage. And one of 789 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: the best ways to play defense is to just keep 790 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 3: Josh Allen standing on the sidelines, Like I really believe 791 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: that with this game and this opponent, keep him over 792 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 3: there standing watching with a baseball hat on. That's where 793 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 3: I like Josh Allen and if you can get Derek 794 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: Henry in this running game rolling, I think that's going 795 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 3: to help. 796 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 4: The defense in a big way. 797 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 798 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 2: I agree. 799 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: The Bills are pretty banged up defensively right now. They 800 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: lost Matt Milano during the preseason during training camp, and 801 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: so you know, that was a star player in the 802 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: middle of their defense. That was a tough one there. Also, 803 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: their nickel corner is injured right now, and so the question, 804 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, they like to play a lot of nickel defense, 805 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: and okay, can the Ravens run against that? Can they 806 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: take advantage of that kind of defense? You know? Can 807 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: they have not run a single defensive play out of 808 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: their base defense yet this year, right. 809 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: And so does the Ravens. 810 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: If the Ravens can block their defensive front, and Ed 811 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: Oliver is a very good defense tackle, if they can 812 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: get push up front and force the Bills to have 813 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: to kind of get out of that nickel defense that 814 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: they like to play, then I think that that's really 815 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: advantageous for Baltimore. 816 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 817 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 3: So look, it's gonna be a great game. It's gonna 818 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 3: be an awesome Avis here, we talked all about that. 819 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 3: I just think that this is a really good limbs 820 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 3: test for Where the Ravens Are. You and I both 821 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: think that this team can be one of the best 822 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: in the league, and this is an opportunity to show 823 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 3: that and this you know, it's big, It's really big 824 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 3: for this team. So I'm excited. I can't wait for 825 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 3: Sunday night again. It's our Darkness Falls game where Black. 826 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 3: If you're going to the game, make sure that you 827 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 3: get into your seats early, by eight o'clock so that 828 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 3: you're there for all the pregame intros and festivities we 829 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 3: have planned for that game. 830 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: Look, last week, I kind of kept it a little mild, right, 831 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: it worked, and it worked right, Okay, So you don't 832 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: mess with what's working. 833 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so let's go get Oh how do the 834 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: big don I go to this Saturday night football? You 835 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 836 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 4: If it's working, If it's working, you don't mess with. 837 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: It, all right, get ready for a Now that's not 838 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 2: a beauty. 839 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a little bigger than that. 840 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: Get ready for a gwyn that's better